ext-296 Day 8 | Masons vs Illuminati Werewolf Game

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Monty Sun 09:01

YESSSSSS
Sun 09:01

ME NO DED
Higgins Sun 09:01

is Monty another vamp? :/
Sun 09:01

why he is still alive?
Moderator Sun 09:02

Higgins votes to lynch MrUniverse
Higgins Sun 09:05

i started trust Dr a little bit yesterday but Monty still alive make me doesn't trust her anymore :/
Sun 09:05

can we just kill Monty?
JubalEarly Sun 09:05

lets just find out who killed op first
Higgins Sun 09:06

i think it's MrU the vamp
Sun 09:06

let
Sun 09:06

let's just lynch MrU
DrCaron Sun 09:07

I'm not normally up this late
Moderator Sun 09:07

DrCaron votes to lynch Stitch
DrCaron Sun 09:07

guess who didn't die last night
Sun 09:09

I attempted to kill stitch
SheriffBourne Sun 09:11

Here only for a moment.
Sun 09:11

I think Caron has interesting intel but I'm also pretty suspicious of her.
Sun 09:12

Moreover, I think it's peculiar that Operative has died, with a Lookout still present. Let's hear her out.
Sun 09:13

I think we'll either have a desparate/suicidal evil or Nandi should have been familiarized or something didn't go according to plan for evils?
DrCaron Sun 09:13

maybe they just forgot?
Monty Sun 09:13

DrCaron supposed to try to kill the other Fam first. So my life get longer a day. ^^
Sun 09:13

Eh. She here already.
DrCaron Sun 09:13

I said that's what i was going to do
Sun 09:13

I never said i was going to eat Monty
SheriffBourne Sun 09:14

Anyway, have to leave for the moment.
DrCaron Sun 09:14

i'm going to bed soon
Sun 09:14

i'll be abck in like 7 hours
MrUniverse Sun 09:14

Yeah, looks like we could wait for Nandi to reveal who killed their members
Sun 09:14

Also, morning everyonr
Monty Sun 09:14

Sleep is good.
MrUniverse Sun 09:14

*everyone
Monty Sun 09:15

Why MrUni still alive? lmao
JubalEarly Sun 09:16

curious about hearing back from Nandi
MrUniverse Sun 09:16

So am i
Jayne Sun 09:40

I am not sure if I am happy or disappointing I am still alive - Fess does not use WC - I knew that already. I think everyone does not use WC and we all know that already, so not sure why I am checking people but in case you can use that to verify me somehow, I did it.
MrUniverse Sun 09:43

I'd keep checking, no harm in it
Sun 09:44

Worst case you never find another WC user
Sun 09:44

Best case, you catch someone lying
Jayne Sun 09:48

Ya that is what I keep doing.
Sun 09:48

TBH I feel so out of the loop in this game...
Sun 09:49

I have literally no secrets.
Sun 09:50

I want to make something up so I can do something about something, but I can't even figure out who I would want to bother. Oh here is one thing.
Sun 09:50

Higgins is still red.
Sun 09:51

So I have no idea what that means or how those mechanics work, but as far as my interface he is still a WC user. I am not sure if that gets updated or not, if someone can confirm 100% that it does, then he is lying.
Sun 09:51

My guess is it does not, and that is a big nothing burger.
MrUniverse Sun 09:54

I think your mark remains, even after purifying
Sun 09:54

But I'm not confident in my answer
Moderator Sun 10:01

Fess votes to lynch Mal
Fess Sun 10:02

Checked Sherrif as Faithful...
Sun 10:02

What's going on?
Sun 10:02

No one showed up in the Inq chat.
Sun 10:04

But theyre not here as well.
Sun 10:05

Bbl
MrUniverse Sun 10:06

Well, it would be just you and River at this point
Moderator Sun 10:06

MrUniverse votes to lynch Stitch
MrUniverse Sun 10:07

Oh yeah, should put my vote on someone who didn't die in the night
Jayne Sun 10:13

Fess seemed a little weird yesterday to me, and continue to seem a little weird. That is why I checked Fess. So is the rest of the inq. all vamps now Fess? You too? I really have nothing to go on, so that is probably nothing. The leader is dead so I am never going to be inq. anyway, unless inq. also got a secret apprentice leader but nobody spilled the beans yet.
Higgins Sun 10:14

Jayne, who do you think we should lynch today?
Sun 10:15

i checked MrU as vamp and Dr said Stitch is immune
Jayne Sun 10:15

I have absolutely no idea. I get the feeling in this game I am surrounded by vamps fighting with each other. But just might be I am paranoid.
SheriffBourne Sun 10:16

Jayne, you still have the option to verify Nandi is still Lookout, by randomly visiting there once ever so often
Higgins Sun 10:16

they are literally fighting each other
Sun 10:16

Sheriff, have you recruited someone?
SheriffBourne Sun 10:17

mebbe
Higgins Sun 10:17

mebbe?
SheriffBourne Sun 10:17

it's 'Maybe', in accent ;)
MrUniverse Sun 10:18

That's a good way to upset the illuminati
Sun 10:18

All 1 of them
Higgins Sun 10:18

if you recruited someone, you should tell it
Jayne Sun 10:18

ya I can visit the illuminati and not tell them and try to get some info - problem is when one of them dies and I am visiting them I get on the list of people who killed someone.
Higgins Sun 10:18

Nandi is the only illu left, i will make sure she won't have anything against you recruited someone
SheriffBourne Sun 10:19

Nandi is indeed the only left, so that would never be a situation we'd encounter (since if you're a killer....)
Jayne Sun 10:19

ahh okay then that is not a problem any more
Higgins Sun 10:19

Sheriff, if you recruited someone, you should tell it so they can be verified
Jayne Sun 10:20

so ya that is a good way to confirm myself I guess
Higgins Sun 10:20

so i'm asking again
Jayne Sun 10:20

assuming nandi is not a vamp
Higgins Sun 10:20

have you recruited someone Sheriff?
SheriffBourne Sun 10:24

no
JubalEarly Sun 10:25

do you maintain that you need Nandi dead to meet your win con?
SheriffBourne Sun 10:26

yes
JubalEarly Sun 10:27

ok just making sure, as illu have currently met their win con given that you don't recruit
Higgins Sun 10:28

okay, Sheriff hasn't recruited someone since he recruited Fanty
SheriffBourne Sun 10:29

go on, Higgins
Moderator Sun 10:32

SheriffBourne votes to lynch MrUniverse
Jayne Sun 10:39

Who is in what factions now that is still alive? Aren't they all getting picked off?
SheriffBourne Sun 10:41

Fess + River in Inquisition, Nandi in Illuminati, me in Mason
Sun 10:41

evils made sure that no faction is very solid atm
Jayne Sun 10:42

But Fess said no night chat, so maybe River or Fess is no good.
Sun 10:43

So Higgins seems to be one of the only people even claiming to be on my team, which is why I did not kill him. Shame that.
Sun 10:43

So who should we kill higgins?
Moderator Sun 10:44

Jayne votes to lynch MrUniverse
MrUniverse Sun 10:53

Again, the vamp tried to recruit someone who is already in a night chat, they kill the person instead
Sun 10:53

So, I'm not sure why people are worried about that. We aren't dealing with shifters
Jayne Sun 10:56

I am not super up on vamp mechanics - but that makes sense
Sun 10:56

so if they were ever lit about being in faction they cannot be recruited?
Sun 10:58

that doesn't make sense to me - why were people worried about people being missing from night chats?
Sun 10:58

and why do they have codes etc.
Sun 10:58

I think MrU must be wrong
Sun 10:59

Which makes me happier I voted for you
SheriffBourne Sun 11:06

MrU is wrong indeed.
Sun 11:06

You can recruit people in factions, they simply stop appearing in that subfaction's night chat.
Sun 11:07

If a Vamp tries to recruit somebody who is evil, or if multiple Vamps try recruiting the same person one night (i.e. there is no way the recruit could be succesful), the recruit automatically turns into a kill
Moderator Sun 11:08

Nandi votes to lynch Stitch
Nandi Sun 11:09

Stitch is a Vampire, then.
Sun 11:09

And now all my friends are dead.
Sun 11:12

(Also a second visitor, I wonder if I should reveal.)
SheriffBourne Sun 11:14

Nandi, I assume you've seen Stitch visit.
Sun 11:15

Which is good, because it corresponds with what Caron says. And either of you could be evil (by now), but since you're both saying the same thing it helps trust both of you.
Nandi Sun 11:15

Yes, although Stitch did the same thing yesterday.
Sun 11:15

It's possible he knows the Village will target Mr. Universe.
SheriffBourne Sun 11:15

I think you should reveal the second visitor if this visit doesn't correspond with their claim.
Nandi Sun 11:16

Well, it's someone I already trust.
SheriffBourne Sun 11:16

I think there are not many options for what this visit could have been.
Nandi Sun 11:17

I don't get why, though. Why bother killing all my friends and leaving me alone to die?
SheriffBourne Sun 11:17

I think a lynch on MrU might be better if they haven't been killing last night, perhaps they could have been recruiting?
Nandi Sun 11:18

Everyone gets a recruit back tomorrow, even you.
Sun 11:18

(Or today.)
MrUniverse Sun 11:19

Copied from h2p: The Vampire Master can only recruit village members as Familiars. If the Vampire Master tries to recruit a member of another faction, they kill their target instead (protective abilities should still be taken into account).
Nandi Sun 11:19

And to be frank, I'd rather go for a guaranteed Vampire.
MrUniverse Sun 11:19

does that not mean if the vamp tries to recruit someone in a village faction, they would die instead?
Sun 11:19

or am I confusing things?
Sun 11:20

also, I agree, we should kill the one who was caught killing
Sun 11:20

but, i feel my position in this matter is fairly obvious
Nandi Sun 11:20

No, you're reading the wrong thing.
Sun 11:20

Members of other evil factions cannot be recruited as Familiar and will be killed instead of recruited (this will not count as a recruit attempt). Members of Village sub-factions (Masons, Illuminati, Inquisition) can be recruited. Recruited members lose their access to their previous sub-faction night chat.
MrUniverse Sun 11:20

oh, faction means evil, sub-faction is village stuff
Sun 11:20

I see. My bad
Nandi Sun 11:21

https://werewolv.es/guides/roles/Familiar
Sun 11:21

No problem, happens to the best of us.
MrUniverse Sun 11:22

oh, then that makes things much worse for us going forward
Sun 11:22

I've been working on the assumption that anyone in a sub-faction was guranteed lit
Sun 11:22

oh boy
Nandi Sun 11:30

Also, I think it's much more important to lynch a Vampire than a Familiar, because of this:
SheriffBourne Sun 11:30

Sun 11:22 I've been working on the assumption that anyone in a sub-faction was guranteed lit <=== shoots a Mason member
Nandi Sun 11:30

If the Vampire Master dies they go to the Graveyard for one night. At dawn, the Vampire Master transitions into the body of the first-recruited Familiar that is still alive. Thus, if the Vampire Master is lynched, they lose the chance to use any ability for one night.
SheriffBourne Sun 11:31

Sun 11:22 oh boy <=== oh MrU you feign your most heartfelt sympathy and concern for the village so beautiful, I'm touched by it and totally convinced you must be one of us now ;)
Moderator Sun 11:31

SheriffBourne votes to lynch Stitch
SheriffBourne Sun 11:31

Sure, I'll dance along
Higgins Sun 11:32

uhm, MrU is vamp
Moderator Sun 11:32

SheriffBourne votes to lynch MrUniverse
SheriffBourne Sun 11:32

THEY'RE BOTH VAMPS!
Sun 11:32

omg
Higgins Sun 11:32

MrU was checked as vamp and was seen visited ded person
MrUniverse Sun 11:33

When was I seen visiting a dead person?
Sun 11:33

The only person I killed was Fanty
Higgins Sun 11:33

Nandi saw you visited illu
Sun 11:33

and one member of illu died
MrUniverse Sun 11:33

She saw Stitch
Sun 11:33

Not me
Sun 11:33

But nice try
Higgins Sun 11:33

opps
Sun 11:33

lel :P
MrUniverse Sun 11:34

Can we lynch Stitch now?
Higgins Sun 11:34

can we lynch MrU now? :P
MrUniverse Sun 11:35

*sigh* why am I even arguing with you. You're clearly a familiar trying to frame me because I'm an easy mark
Higgins Sun 11:36

*sign* you haven been sused for a long time and we had to pressured you to claim
Sun 11:36

you should did a better fake claim
MrUniverse Sun 11:36

The fact I've been sus for so long makes me the easy mark
Sun 11:37

People already suspect, just requires a little push
Higgins Sun 11:37

are you saying about me? UwU
MrUniverse Sun 11:37

Yes
Higgins Sun 11:37

i mean the person has been sused for a long time
Sun 11:37

it's me, right? UwU
MrUniverse Sun 11:38

No, I mean me
Sun 11:38

Although, you have also been pretty sus yourself
Higgins Sun 11:38

no u
MrUniverse Sun 11:38

No me
Sun 11:38

Wait
Higgins Sun 11:38

you are talking about me UwU
Sun 11:38

i'm the easy mark
MrUniverse Sun 11:39

You are really confusing me now, and I can see why people wanted to lynch you
Higgins Sun 11:39

thank for pointed that UwU
MrUniverse Sun 11:39

You're the one trying to paint some BS story
Higgins Sun 11:39

*see vamp trying to paint some bs story*
MrUniverse Sun 11:42

You're the one accusing me, I'm just saying your lying
Sun 11:42

*you're
Sun 11:42

Stupid phone gets one of them right
Higgins Sun 11:44

oh woah, seems like you aren't accusing me and i can't saying you are lying but you can
Sun 11:44

so funny UwU
MrUniverse Sun 11:44

Alright, I'm done. This argument is literally just "No u"
Sun 11:44

This is going nowhere
Higgins Sun 11:47

Someday we'll find it
Sun 11:47

That Rainbow Connection
Sun 11:47

The lovers the dreamers and me
Moderator Sun 11:50

Nandi votes to lynch MrUniverse
Nandi Sun 11:50

Ennie.
Moderator Sun 11:50

Nandi votes to lynch Stitch
Nandi Sun 11:50

Minnie.
Moderator Sun 11:51

Nandi votes to lynch MrUniverse
Nandi Sun 11:51

Mynoe.
Sun 11:51

Actually, never mind.
Sun 11:51

Watch me die tomorrow.
MrUniverse Sun 11:54

Really, you're voting for the guy who helped you get to your win condition?
Higgins Sun 12:22

in another view, she is voting for the guy killed a villager
MrUniverse Sun 12:29

To get the illuminati to reveal a vampire
Nandi Sun 13:19

It doesn't matter if Sheriff recruited today.
Sun 13:19

In another view, I'm voting to get a lunch.
Sun 13:19

*lynch.
River Sun 13:38

Wash was a VM
Monty Sun 13:39

...
Sun 13:39

WHY THERE SO MANY VAMPIRE STILL ALIVE?
Sun 13:39

Heh ^^ Familiar all around
River Sun 13:39

I believe caron more now at least :P
Monty Sun 13:40

River. No u
Moderator Sun 13:40

Monty votes to lynch MrUniverse
Monty Sun 13:41

We lynch Stitch tomorrow right?
River Sun 13:41

both confirmed evil the same way so yea
Monty Sun 13:42

Anyway. Should I shot or not tonight? After thinking hard, I decide to not shoting around like amatur tonight ^^
Sun 13:43

So I will sit still and hoping to still alive tomorrow.
Sun 13:44

I think accidently shoting a villager will just helping the Vampiros not the Village. Is there anyone wanna changes my mind? I still up for any suggestion ^^
Moderator Sun 13:44

River votes to lynch MrUniverse
River Sun 13:45

hmmm
MrUniverse Sun 13:46

This is such a mistake. How do people even trust Higgins?
River Sun 13:46

you trust caron monty?
MrUniverse Sun 13:46

When there are 2 people pointing at Stitch
Higgins Sun 13:48

https://media1.tenor.com/images/1742d2899ac2d797d88bd70a8e048587/tenor.gif
Sun 13:48

people can't trust me because there are 2 people pointing at Stitch
Sun 13:48

is that the best defend you have?
MrUniverse Sun 13:49

You've been horribly suspect from the start, and barely helpful
Higgins Sun 13:52

hmm, i think found a vamp is helpful
Sun 13:52

i think i have to kill them to after i found them to be helpful
MrUniverse Sun 13:54

I would trust Caron or Nandi more than you. The fact that they both are pointing at the same person is even more weight to lynching Stitch
Higgins Sun 13:57

hmm, there is more weight to lynching Stitch so you can't be vamp
Sun 13:57

understand
Monty Sun 14:01

River. I don't really trust Caron. But we can decide about her litness later after MrU and Stitch.
MrUniverse Sun 14:02

It makes it the better lynch
Moderator Sun 14:02

Monty votes to lynch Nandi
Moderator Sun 14:02

Monty votes to lynch MrUniverse
Monty Sun 14:02

Eh. Click a wrong name ^^
Nandi Sun 14:05

Monty, this might sound crazy, but what if you did shoot?
Sun 14:06

The night the Vampire Master recruits a Familiar, the Familiar cannot be killed by any ability. However, if multiple Vampires/Vampire Masters try to recruit the same person one night, that person dies (the Vampire Masters automatically use their kill ability instead, so no recruit (attempt) is registered).
SheriffBourne Sun 14:08

Monty, this might sound crazy, but what if you did shoot?
Sun 14:08

Shoot Nandi, so when you wake up as Mason in the morning, you will have one victory condition satisfied
Nandi Sun 14:13

I just gave him the idea, not the victim.
Mal Sun 14:14

huh, really not sure why a vamp would choose to kill Operative rather than Nandi, knowing that Nandi would see it, that seems odd.
JubalEarly Sun 14:19

I'd much rather lynch Stitch than MrU
Sun 14:20

If Stitch is a VM, and not a fam-stalker, how would he know he was purified?
Sun 14:21

makes me think it's possible that Stitch, Mal, and Higgins could all be vamps :/
Sun 14:21

meaning Higgins' vamp check *could* be bs
Moderator Sun 14:21

JubalEarly votes to lynch Stitch
Mal Sun 14:22

Stick could have been the stalker at the time but since we killed Zoe, got promoted to VM?
Sun 14:22

Stitch *
Moderator Sun 14:22

SheriffBourne votes to lynch Stitch
SheriffBourne Sun 14:22

I'll join you, Jubal
Higgins Sun 14:22

^
Moderator Sun 14:22

Mal votes to lynch Stitch
SheriffBourne Sun 14:22

(obviously, we need to unbalance at some point, but let's see for now how this develops)
Higgins Sun 14:22

Mal is the best person here
SheriffBourne Sun 14:22

g2g for now
Mal Sun 14:23

actually... hmm, what if nandi was recruited and that's why Operative had to die instead?
Higgins Sun 14:23

there are 3 vms
JubalEarly Sun 14:23

she wasn't
Higgins Sun 14:24

Mal Sun 14:22 Stick could have been the stalker at the time but since we killed Zoe, got promoted to VM? <- It's reasonable, looks how inactive he is. It's different than before Zoe died.
Monty Sun 14:25

Nandi. I only can shot tonight. When is this "what if you did shoot" means?
JubalEarly Sun 14:25

I guess not even voting is pretty Zoe-like
Sun 14:26

when was stitch purified again?
Moderator Sun 14:26

Monty votes to lynch Stitch
Monty Sun 14:26

Why MrUniverse still alive until today?
Sun 14:27

He so damn lucky ^^
Mal Sun 14:27

JubalEarly: How do you know she wasn't recruited?
Sun 14:27

Stitch was purified Night 5
JubalEarly Sun 14:27

well the timeline works there at least
Sun 14:28

and the only way I could that she wasn't recruited
Higgins Sun 14:28

you know, there are fam in gy
Sun 14:29

are you assuming that fams in gy aren't her fam?
JubalEarly Sun 14:29

what does that have to do with it?
Sun 14:29

no
Higgins Sun 14:29

"and the only way I could that she wasn't recruited"
JubalEarly Sun 14:29

yup
Higgins Sun 14:29

she did recruit but her fam died
JubalEarly Sun 14:29

I don't get your point
Sun 14:29

I'm referring to Nandi
Mal Sun 14:29

(If she was recruited N6, she'd still see who killed Tracey that night, and then last night they kill Operative so that he can't comment on her not being in night chat)
Higgins Sun 14:30

we aren't talking about Zoe?
Mal Sun 14:30

(But I'm happy to park that line of inquiry for now)
Higgins Sun 14:30

hmm
Mal Sun 14:30

We can test her with JubalEarly or Jayne randomly deciding to visit or not
JubalEarly Sun 14:30

ok I'll just be explicit since it's obvious anyway. I was on Nandi last nigjt
Sun 14:30

she visited herself
Mal Sun 14:30

ok then
Sun 14:30

that settles that
Higgins Sun 14:32

Zoe could have given up so she didn't even care to vote as Stitch and she will be smited
Sun 14:33

Zoe was inactive the day we lynched her
Sun 14:34

And now Stitch is inactive too
Mal Sun 14:36

I don't like relying on "someone might get smited"
Sun 14:36

She's clearly still killing at night so not totally inactive
JubalEarly Sun 14:37

I guess there's also the possibility that Stitch was recruited the same night he was purified? idk if both messages would even show or not
Mal Sun 14:38

I'd expect both to show
Sun 14:39

But I'm still thinking he was fam-stalker that night
JubalEarly Sun 14:40

definitely possible, although no death that Zoe would account for that night
Sun 14:40

with Caron claiming Niska and MrU claiming Fanty
Mal Sun 14:40

hmm
Sun 14:40

I guess that could have been the recruit night then
Sun 14:41

Though I still have a gut feeling that they were just lying all along about being a GV
JubalEarly Sun 14:41

ya I'd believe it
Sun 14:42

you think around that time he was just stalking you every night to know "when" he was purified
Mal Sun 14:45

I think during that day I'd suggested I was going to do it as it was my peace offering towards the inq after *that* day
Sun 14:45

so just stalking that night would have allowed him to know or not and prepare a response
Sun 14:46

or just assume I did it
Sun 14:46

I kinda wish I hadn't and seen their response
Higgins Sun 14:48

We lynched Wash yesterday
Sun 14:49

So he should revive
Sun 14:49

In someone body
Mal Sun 14:49

I'm hoping he's obvious.
Higgins Sun 14:49

Anyone sounds Washy today?
JubalEarly Sun 14:49

lol I wish
Sun 14:49

I think we gotta look more at if people don't sound like themselves
Sun 14:49

opposed to sounding washy
Sun 14:49

unless he can't help himself
Mal Sun 14:50

He's a better player than that though so he won't be as obvious
Sun 14:50

Being himself as Wash is fine, but then he'll do better at being whoever else he needs to be :(
Higgins Sun 14:51

What do you think about inq situation?
JubalEarly Sun 14:51

I wanna hear from River not being seen in inq chat though
Sun 14:51

lol
Higgins Sun 14:51

Fess said River didn't appear in night chat
Sun 14:51

Lel
JubalEarly Sun 14:51

well if Fess said anything in inq chat
Sun 14:51

then River can confirm if she reads back now
Higgins Sun 14:51

River did talk today
JubalEarly Sun 14:52

ya but didn't mention anything
Sun 14:52

hopefully she comes back
Higgins Sun 14:52

Yes, which is sus
JubalEarly Sun 14:52

I agree
Sun 14:53

She would have needed to be recruited N6
Sun 14:53

same night that Simon was killed
Sun 14:54

but vamps can't coordinate things like that with each other
Sun 14:54

unless they had a fam militia still around
Higgins Sun 14:55

3 vms, we can have 3 fam militia
JubalEarly Sun 14:55

ya its definitely possible
Sun 14:55

and if it was Wash, then they wouldn't have been able to kill Fess last night to prevent him revealing she wasn't in the chat
Jayne Sun 14:59

I can't be here much today, where should I be voting?
Sun 14:59

I will keep my visits more secret till people talk in future days if I am still alive. Now I have a purpose I fear I will die.
Sun 15:01

I am going to vote with Higgins. His story makes sense to me and I did check him once, and he is alive because I didn't kill him so in some way I am more connected to him than anyone else. Maybe that is bad, maybe that is good, but it is what it is. Let me know if I should change my vote Higgins.
JubalEarly Sun 15:11

Did you check Stitch at one point too?
Jayne Sun 15:37

I never checked Stitch.
Moderator Sun 16:57

Nandi votes to lynch Stitch
Nandi Sun 16:58

Uh... Moe.
Sun 17:00

Well, how do we know Stitch was purified?
Monty Sun 17:01

He told us.
Sun 17:01

I come back to see if we have some sort of plan.
Sun 17:01

I see that my shot is not needed...yet.
Sun 17:02

So I will hold it until it useful or until I ded. lol
Sun 17:02

Night night ^^
Sun 17:03

I will read the chat somehow later. Feel free to give any suggestion. But I won't be here to accept or reject it. I will make my own decision if necessary ^^ Bye bye
JubalEarly Sun 17:04

If anything you can shoot Mr.U
Sun 17:04

definitely confirm if he is VM or not
Sun 17:04

like he most likely is
Sun 17:04

but it would be nice to not have any doubts
Monty Sun 17:04

But it will wasted tho.
JubalEarly Sun 17:04

not wasted if you are confirming a VM
Sun 17:04

since it isn't exactly confirmed imo
DrCaron Sun 17:04

I can eat him if you want to save the bullet
Monty Sun 17:04

Hah ^^
JubalEarly Sun 17:04

do you need to eat tonight or tomorrow to not die though?
Monty Sun 17:05

Hmm.
DrCaron Sun 17:05

two nights without succesfully eating
Sun 17:05

so tonight
Monty Sun 17:05

You need to eat something then.
DrCaron Sun 17:05

yes
JubalEarly Sun 17:05

so if he is VM you are alive for one more day (tomorrow) and then die the following night?
DrCaron Sun 17:05

yes
Monty Sun 17:05

How about you eat the lookout? No?
Sun 17:06

Heh.
DrCaron Sun 17:06

but tbh if i go down having hit VMs everytime, i'll call my death a success
JubalEarly Sun 17:06

thats true
Sun 17:06

it also confirms you
DrCaron Sun 17:06

yup
JubalEarly Sun 17:06

even if it means you die
Monty Sun 17:06

So the plan is DrCaron try to eat MrU?
JubalEarly Sun 17:06

well up to you two
Monty Sun 17:06

Yes?
DrCaron Sun 17:06

I'll eat MrU
JubalEarly Sun 17:06

ok
Monty Sun 17:06

Okay.
JubalEarly Sun 17:07

worst case, you live longer
Sun 17:07

best case, we are sure of a lynch
DrCaron Sun 17:07

unless village determines a better target. at the point i don't see that happeniung
Sun 17:07

so MrU it is
JubalEarly Sun 17:07

well I'd like for river and fess to make it back
Sun 17:07

considering fess said he never saw her in night chat
Sun 17:07

so if he spoke she can read back and give the timestamp
Monty Sun 17:07

I will go now. Bye bye. Funnily MrU don't even happy to have new bullet today like me ^^
Mal Sun 17:08

I want to hear from River, it's entirely possible they're a fam if they weren't in night chat. It's not like them to be quiet
JubalEarly Sun 17:08

agreed
DrCaron Sun 17:08

^^^
Monty Sun 17:08

True true.
Mal Sun 17:08

I wonder if it would be a better use of the good Dr to eat them instead of possibly killing themselves with another attempt at MrU
Sun 17:09

If for example River (or Fess) is a fam we've lost another villager
Sun 17:09

letting Dr starve is then yet another
Monty Sun 17:09

If we really want to test MrU. I can do it.
JubalEarly Sun 17:09

ya but if Dr eats a villager its basically the same thing as if she starves
DrCaron Sun 17:09

^
Sun 17:09

net loss of 1
Monty Sun 17:09

But I don't think it necessary
Mal Sun 17:09

Yes, but if one of Fess or River is a fam then it's actually better to eat them instead
JubalEarly Sun 17:09

if River can't confirm herself, then I think its fine to be eaten
Mal Sun 17:10

and then we don't lose a villager
DrCaron Sun 17:10

but if i starve finding a VM, that has more value than my death
Mal Sun 17:10

you can attempt MrU tomorrow, or Monthy can try it
Sun 17:10

Monty *
Monty Sun 17:10

What if the lookout is a fam?
JubalEarly Sun 17:10

it's not like her to not mention something like no night chat though
Sun 17:10

even if she was a fam, she still would have considered it
Sun 17:10

makes me think maybe Wash revived into her?
Mal Sun 17:10

I'm just not convinced of the benefits of letting an MW starve
Monty Sun 17:10

Who not in NC again?
JubalEarly Sun 17:10

river according to fess
DrCaron Sun 17:11

don't get me wrong, i do not want to die
Mal Sun 17:11

Fess says River wasn't in night chat. River hasn't spoken today
JubalEarly Sun 17:11

she poke
Sun 17:11

spoje
Sun 17:11

spoke*****
Sun 17:11

just a little though
DrCaron Sun 17:11

but if i do go down b/c we keep guessing correctly; i'm okay with it
Monty Sun 17:11

She has
JubalEarly Sun 17:11

another reason that would make me guess she might be Wash
DrCaron Sun 17:11

has someone confirmed Monty?
JubalEarly Sun 17:11

to try to avoid talking too much and giving away a different type style
Sun 17:11

not sure
Mal Sun 17:11

hmm, did I miss a whole chunk of day, let me check back
JubalEarly Sun 17:11

I don't think so
Monty Sun 17:11

No one confirm me.
Sun 17:11

lol
JubalEarly Sun 17:11

she only said a couple of lines
Monty Sun 17:12

I just a bug in this game.
JubalEarly Sun 17:12

xD
Monty Sun 17:12

River usually active a bit later right?
Mal Sun 17:12

hmm. Fess spoke before River did though, and River said nothing about Fess not talking in chat, or in response to the claim
Monty Sun 17:13

If she not coming back, maybe DrC can try to eat him.
Mal Sun 17:13

River normally chats a lot throughout the whole day
Monty Sun 17:13

Well you need to stated your final decision tho.
DrCaron Sun 17:13

it is the weekend
Nandi Sun 17:14

How about shooting Stitch to confirn his purification?
Mal Sun 17:14

It is, granted
Moderator Sun 17:14

Nandi votes to lynch MrUniverse
Monty Sun 17:14

River is not that busy.
Sun 17:14

River should be talking if she want.
Mal Sun 17:14

indeed.
MrUniverse Sun 17:14

Stitch was seen killing someone
Monty Sun 17:14

Even right now.
Nandi Sun 17:14

Yes, I know.
Mal Sun 17:14

I think lynch Stitch, monty try to shoot MrU, Dr eat River ?
Nandi Sun 17:14

He could be purified and still kill the same night.
MrUniverse Sun 17:14

So, why does his purification need to be confirmed? Yes clearly evul
Monty Sun 17:15

Why I need to shoot VM around?
MrUniverse Sun 17:15

*He's clearly evil
Monty Sun 17:15

lol
Nandi Sun 17:15

Look, I want this game to be over as soon as possible.
Mal Sun 17:15

Shooting MrU tests the same thing we wanted to do with Dr trying to eat them
Sun 17:15

but means we don't starve Dr in the process
MrUniverse Sun 17:15

Well, guess I need to shoot tonight then
Nandi Sun 17:15

WAIT, MW is still alive, yes?
DrCaron Sun 17:15

hello
Sun 17:15

i are
Monty Sun 17:15

But if we want to test MrU that means we don't trust the Seer.
Sun 17:15

lol
MrUniverse Sun 17:16

You shouldn't
Monty Sun 17:16

Even the Seer is a bit annoying (for me) I believe his claim.
Sun 17:16

Heh.
Sun 17:17

MrUniverse is a Vampire. There like 3VMs in this game. And they have the Fam around. Somewhere.
MrUniverse Sun 17:18

Sure, whatever
Monty Sun 17:18

Don't bite me please ^^
DrCaron Sun 17:18

my concern is that no one has confirmed Monty
Sun 17:18

we would need someone watching the shot
MrUniverse Sun 17:18

@Monty Why would i kill you? You could just be wrong. Higgins on the other hand
Mal Sun 17:21

Monty: we're not specifically not trusting the seer, we're trying to verify it
Sun 17:22

DrCaron: we don't have a living stalker to check that
DrCaron Sun 17:22

we have jubal
MrUniverse Sun 17:22

Jubal can also visit the target
DrCaron Sun 17:22

but forecasting harlot targets is stoooooopid
MrUniverse Sun 17:23

This is true
Stitch Sun 17:45

ah holla
Sun 17:45

guess i am being lynched
Sun 17:46

purified then lynched woop
Sun 17:47

i still sus mrU
Sun 17:47

also river somehow
Moderator Sun 17:47

Stitch votes to lynch MrUniverse
JubalEarly Sun 19:57

well ya if river doesn't show up tonight she's going to be really sus moving forward
DrCaron Sun 19:58

I am going to eat MrU
JubalEarly Sun 19:58

ok
Mal Sun 19:58

I think that's a waste of you
DrCaron Sun 19:58

there was some waffling earlier so i wanted to clear things up
Mal Sun 19:59

If we're going to potentially waste an attempted kill on MrU, it would be better to waste the Militia, they don't die if they miss their shot, you do
DrCaron Sun 19:59

i do not trust Monty
JubalEarly Sun 19:59

who would you recommend she eat...?
Mal Sun 20:00

You eat River (Silence most of the day is sus as hell), Monty shoots MrU - we learn the same information (does MrU die or not) but we keep you around to possibly eat other people in future
JubalEarly Sun 20:00

So we kill an inq member for potentially just being busy last nigjht/today?
DrCaron Sun 20:01

^^^
Mal Sun 20:01

I'd argue that the possibility of retaining the ability to attempt-to-eat people is more useful than a GD.
Sun 20:01

esepcially one who may infact now be a fam
JubalEarly Sun 20:02

I wouldn't be that certain
Sun 20:03

having a MW can become a liability near the end if we are close to parity
Sun 20:03

either she dies off anyway, or she is forced to eat villagers if there are just VMs remaining
Mal Sun 20:03

I don't believe that River if they were still River would be this silent all day today especially with an accusation against them
JubalEarly Sun 20:04

things can get busy, especially on the weekend
Sun 20:04

I mean its sus, and something to consider
Mal Sun 20:04

If we keep the MW alive tonight, they can starve later if we need them to, but we get 4 more days of them being alive.
DrCaron Sun 20:04

recruiting an inq member seems pointless
Mal Sun 20:04

I bet you I'm right.
JubalEarly Sun 20:04

ya then its -2 villagers if she eats someone lit
Sun 20:04

opposed to -1 if she starves now
Mal Sun 20:04

She can just not eat in 4 days if we need that
JubalEarly Sun 20:05

-2 v -1
Mal Sun 20:05

It's not -2 if River is a fam.
JubalEarly Sun 20:05

thats a big if
Sun 20:05

and a strange recruit
Mal Sun 20:05

I don't think it's a big if at all, it's an almost certain if
JubalEarly Sun 20:06

if she made sense as a recruit then I'd be more inclined to agree
Sun 20:06

but when she would have been recruited, there were still two other inq members
Sun 20:06

and they wouldn't both die
Mal Sun 20:08

Night 6 by Wash maybe?
Sun 20:09

If he had fam-militia who hadn't shot yet, they could shoot Simon, recruit River?
Sun 20:10

Then it's all fine and dandy yesterday, then last night because we lynched wash they can't kill fess, so they just have to hope that the village ignores that point today
DrCaron Sun 20:11

if MrU is a fam of Stitch; lynching+me eating could wipe out the remainder of that camp (while we are just throwing theories around)
Mal Sun 20:18

It could if they're linked, and if they're not we lose you. I think Monty is a better shout.
DrCaron Sun 20:20

If i starve; so be it
Nandi Sun 20:22

Can someone TL;DR the plan?
DrCaron Sun 20:22

i am going to eat MrU
Sun 20:23

other than that; i have no idea
Nandi Sun 20:23

Wow.
Sun 20:23

Have other attempts at eating the Universe ended in failure?
DrCaron Sun 20:23

not that i recall
Sun 20:24

the risk is if he is a VM; i starve
Nandi Sun 20:24

Dying by starvation isn't that bad.
Moderator Sun 20:24

Nandi votes to lynch Stitch
Nandi Sun 20:25

Just to set the stapler on the papers.
DrCaron Sun 20:25

I said it earlier; if i starve after hitting 3 VMs ina row, i'm okay with that
Sun 20:25

my 1 life for 3 evils is a pretty good trade
Nandi Sun 20:26

Sounds wonderful. I really do hope he's a Familiar than a VM, but all's well that ends well.
DrCaron Sun 20:26

that is my hope as well
Sun 20:26

i really don't want to die, but i do not like the alternative (letting Monty shoot him)
Sun 20:27

Its not that i have a strong reason not to trust him, but I don't have a reason to trust him either
Nandi Sun 20:27

Now, I've discussed this elsewhere, but my fear is that the Vampire Master thrives and recruits me out of spite.
Sun 20:27

Monty could very well be a Familiar of the opponent.
DrCaron Sun 20:28

he's been fairly neutral so far which is concerning, but not condemning
Sun 20:28

and with no real way to confirm him, i am erring on the side of caution
Nandi Sun 20:29

(Flashbacks to the Masons.)
Sun 20:30

Well, I just wish everyone luck.
DrCaron Sun 20:30

same to you
SheriffBourne Sun 20:55

Just checking in last-minute to see how the pieces are set
DrCaron Sun 20:55

I am eating MrU
SheriffBourne Sun 20:55

I see we have some solid inquiries into a few suspects
Sun 20:55

yes I read that
Sun 20:55

seems good
Sun 20:56

ooh and I will have power
Sun 20:56

The anticipation of a new recruit makes me joyful as you night expect
DrCaron Sun 20:56

i thought onyl single use abilities were getting refreshed
SheriffBourne Sun 20:57

I expect recruits will be refreshed as well, I think it's common understanding that any limited-use ability is refreshed
Sun 20:57

that's how I understood it
DrCaron Sun 20:58

so how do you know you'll be able to recruit?
SheriffBourne Sun 20:58

I'll probably be able to see a button again!
Sun 20:58

And this will give me joy as you might expect!
DrCaron Sun 20:58

ABILITY RECHARGE – Expect single-use abilities (witch potions, militia shots etc) to be recharged and available every 7 days (available to use on Sunday night)
Sun 20:59

so i am not sure what you are talking about
SheriffBourne Sun 20:59

Frankly, since Niska was recruited without it being my choice, I only ever had a single-use ability ;)
Sun 20:59

Yeah, we'll see, DrCaron
Moderator Sun 20:59

The sun is setting...
SheriffBourne Sun 20:59

If I'm alone after tonight I'll be very sad
Sun 20:59

or that means I found an evil, which will be great
Sun 20:59

(fam recruit attempt)(
DrCaron Sun 20:59

...
SheriffBourne Sun 21:00

good night! ;)
DrCaron Sun 21:00

you're weiord todfay
Lynched Sun 21:00

Stitch was lynched by the village
Moderator Mon 09:00

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