ext-296 Day 3 | Masons vs Illuminati Werewolf Game

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Tracey Tue 09:01

Hey everyone, apologies for the vote-and-run last night. I was out and about and realised I hadnt voted. Picked the first person i saw on the list with 0 votes - was just an asv
Tue 09:01

I had been a little more active earlier in the day
Simon Tue 09:01

Ooooooeeee I guess that's acceptable Tracey
Operative Tue 09:02

Yo can we have less shitposting today
Simon Tue 09:02

Agreed Op
Tue 09:02

Inara still alive I see
Tue 09:03

Dropping the ayesvee and checking back in later
Higgins Tue 09:03

i still alive :D
Operative Tue 09:03

Self prot I assume
Moderator Tue 09:03

Simon votes to lynch Lawrence
Operative Tue 09:03

I will also asv
Moderator Tue 09:03

Operative votes to lynch Lenore
Higgins Tue 09:03

hmm
Tue 09:04

Bester died is weird
Tue 09:04

did he speak anything yesterday?
Tracey Tue 09:06

he didnt even vote
River Tue 09:07

yo boyz
Simon Tue 09:07

Hey Sis nice of you to join us
River Tue 09:10

Glad glad to be with ya all
Tue 09:10

Is Simon rly my brotha?
Tue 09:11

Never got more than 2 episodes or so out of it
Tue 09:12

oh yeah River and Simon Tam
Tue 09:12

*hugs Brother*
Lenore Tue 09:12

I'm not dead?
Tue 09:12

I'm not.
Tue 09:12

Okay.
Tue 09:14

Don't worry though, I'm still fairly useless right now.
River Tue 09:14

great
Tue 09:15

Glad you're still useless!
Tracey Tue 09:15

*fairly* useless
Lenore Tue 09:15

:thumbsup:
Tracey Tue 09:15

implies some minor use
Lenore Tue 09:15

Minor use.
Tracey Tue 09:15

light comic relief perhaps
Lenore Tue 09:15

Certainly non of the illegal stuff.
Tue 09:15

:p
Inara Tue 09:16

Simon.
Tue 09:17

Is there any reason I shouldn't be?
Lenore Tue 09:17

coz ur prot claim lol
Tue 09:17

die lol
Tue 09:17

lol lol
Moderator Tue 09:18

Lenore votes to lynch Simon
Fess Tue 09:18

Days keep getting cloudier...
Lenore Tue 09:18

Days keep getting shorter too.
Fess Tue 09:18

Yes, and shorter
Moderator Tue 09:18

Fess votes to lynch MrUniverse
Fess Tue 09:19

For now
Inara Tue 09:19

So, what's the plan guys?
Simon Tue 09:19

Inara no it's good to have you around
Lenore Tue 09:19

Clarification: Mine's not an ASV. Light sus.
Inara Tue 09:19

At what point do we lynch someone?
Simon Tue 09:20

*hugs River* keep an eye on those clouds sis, might be a storm coming
Tracey Tue 09:20

probably not yet. Problem is we dont know the balance here
Tue 09:20

we might actually be more likely to hit evil of some kind
Lenore Tue 09:20

2 points. 1. There is shared suspicion on one person. 2. Intels have killers found out.
Tracey Tue 09:20

just dont know the rarios
River Tue 09:20

@Simon a shit storm?
Tracey Tue 09:20

*ratios
Simon Tue 09:20

Hopefully not a shitpost storm
Lenore Tue 09:21

Problem is we dont know the balance here <=== Have fun trying to find a balance ratio in a closed setup with not a single piece of the puzzle from the API.
Simon Tue 09:21

Lenore why the sus?
Lenore Tue 09:21

Just my reads on you so far.
Simon Tue 09:22

Fair enough
Inara Tue 09:22

So, a thought on Bester: could be a VM recruit who was evil, if the VM was going for quiet people so that if and when they resurrect it will be harder to identify the shift?
Lenore Tue 09:22

What evil would Bester be then?
Tue 09:22

Faction-wise.
Simon Tue 09:22

Unlikely that we have a Zealot/Furie though
Inara Tue 09:22

Coven, Undead, could even be a familiar?
Tracey Tue 09:23

Possible Inara, though what if he is smited today
Lenore Tue 09:23

So a fam died by VM recruitement?
Tracey Tue 09:23

like you'd pick someone who is quiet but still voting
Inara Tue 09:23

True, Tracy.
Lenore Tue 09:23

That too actually.
Tue 09:23

I'm actually leaning to that being a zombie death instead.
Inara Tue 09:24

But, there's no Zombie in the API :o
Lenore Tue 09:24

Considering the account Mal (or someone) brought up the account that didn't get activity checked while being a new account, I think it's still fairly likely.
Inara Tue 09:25

Interesting.
River Tue 09:25

I couldn't verify that part though
Tue 09:25

I didn't find much out of order in the player list
Lenore Tue 09:25

"Janey8". Found any account like that in previous exts/wlfs/unds?
Simon Tue 09:25

Wonder what Lawrence has to say today
Lenore Tue 09:26

Because I didn't. And that was the only new account not getting activity checked.
River Tue 09:27

not new
Operative Tue 09:27

I really don't think this has merit to it
River Tue 09:27

but we get into heavy meta territor
Tue 09:27

*y
Lenore Tue 09:28

Not really. I'm only mentioning an account that's got weird shit surrounding it. If anyone has proof that the said account has been in games previously the zombie death is very much impossible.
River Tue 09:29

019
Tue 09:29

done.
Tue 09:29

next topic.
Tue 09:29

Sorry but I don't feel comfortable talking player names ingame.
Lenore Tue 09:29

Bester makes no sense as a VM recruit gone wrong, and he definitely doesn't make sense as a vamp kill either. You want the big talkers out, not someone on the smite list. That is either a new player trying out the shift mechanic, or some zombie.
Operative Tue 09:30

Its not a zombie. There would have been an extra player
Lenore Tue 09:31

I'm pretty sure this point was discussed before yesterday, although there was way too much shit to find that.
Tue 09:31

The "zombie" could be under a different guise. In this case, it COULD be "Janey8".
Operative Tue 09:32

River already showed it wasn't
Lenore Tue 09:32

And I've not seen a 1-ext player get ignored from an activity check.
Tue 09:32

So that point is moot.
Operative Tue 09:32

Going outside of game and talking about real names is so weird
Lenore Tue 09:33

Report me to mod if it's that uncomfortable for you.
Tue 09:33

I'm bloody sure I'm playing within the rules here.
Operative Tue 09:33

Just because you don't recognise a user name doesn't mean they have been planted
Lenore Tue 09:34

You're going into a circular argument here mate. Not gonna waste my time there.
Operative Tue 09:34

I am?
Tue 09:34

Ok
Lenore Tue 09:35

Unless there's a report on Bester being a really tempting role to be killed off via the GD report, I'll be maintaining my theory on him being the zombie from yesterday.
Tue 09:36

He was a completely shit kill otherwise, and I don't see why any evil faction would bother killing him unless they knew his role to be too important.
Tue 09:37

That, or he's Banshee. Which implies undeads regardless. And that tactic has lost it's novelty.
Simon Tue 09:37

So BH then wolf kill of important role?
Lenore Tue 09:38

That's the other possibility.
Tue 09:38

And we'll only know tomorrow at its earliest.
Simon Tue 09:38

Seems the safer option imho
Tue 09:39

Don't wait for a smite if you don't have to
Lenore Tue 09:39

That would imply Bester was a role too important to ignore. In which case his inactivity yesterday didn't make sense.
Simon Tue 09:40

Gd will help us out?
Operative Tue 09:40

Or they heard this ridiculous idea that a zombie was added pre-game and wanted to add fuel to the fire by killing some nobody
Lenore Tue 09:40

That's wasteful if they really did that.
Operative Tue 09:41

I don't like arguments that are 'well they wouldn't do that because that isn't the best play arguments
Lenore Tue 09:41

So unless our pack/VM are a bunch of amateurs, that's unlikely.
Tue 09:41

Well, you'll not like a bunch of us then. We go for the likely scenarios.
Inara Tue 09:41

Maybe he was an Inquisition Leader who died recruiting ¬_¬
Lenore Tue 09:41

Occam's razor.
Operative Tue 09:42

Because that leads to this sort of nonsense of they do something weird
Simon Tue 09:42

Unlikely Inara
Inara Tue 09:42

It was a joke.
Simon Tue 09:42

Okay
Tue 09:43

Still, we know it's safe to balance
Lenore Tue 09:43

Operative Tue 09:42 Because that leads to this sort of nonsense of they do something weird <=== Might do you better to understand which plays are more efficient.
Moderator Tue 09:43

Inara votes to lynch Jayne
Operative Tue 09:43

Honestly thinking my asv on Lenore is becoming an actual vote
Inara Tue 09:44

Jayne didn't vote yesterday, neither did Bester. Something something. Jayne must be evil. Logic!
Lenore Tue 09:44

Yes, because disagreement means the other side is evil. @Operative
Tue 09:44

Good stuff, I wish I was this simple-minded.
Operative Tue 09:45

You're just not very pleasant to talk to and your theories are verging on nonsense. Nonsense an evil would try and spread
Lenore Tue 09:45

Inara, tell me something. How nonsensical would you rate my theory?
Tue 09:46

Limits are: Mildly spicy to batshit insane.
River Tue 09:47

You know I love you my dear Lenore vamp bae, but... 015, 016, 017, 018, 019, 296, I WONT GO FURTHER BACK.
Tue 09:47

this is DONE.
Tue 09:48

next topic RLY
Lenore Tue 09:48

So this account has joined all those games?
River Tue 09:48

yes
Lenore Tue 09:48

Okay, I'll drop it.
River Tue 09:48

=)
Operative Tue 09:48

Lol
Lenore Tue 09:48

Next scenario: BH sniffing.
River Tue 09:48

Probable
Tue 09:48

did bester ever talk?
Lenore Tue 09:48

Not to my memory.
River Tue 09:48

seems kinda odd to snuff some nobody
Lenore Tue 09:49

AGAIN, THAT'S A SHITE VAMP KILL/RECRUIT.
River Tue 09:49

you know what I mean
Tue 09:49

*sniff
Tue 09:49

very shite
Lenore Tue 09:49

Not really. You don't know who'll talk N1.
Tue 09:49

N1 sniff, N2 kill.
River Tue 09:49

I'd sniff a talker n1
Tue 09:49

leaves you some room for "non lethal visit" claims later on
Lenore Tue 09:50

Ahh, that's where I'd differ. I'd probably sniff one of the non-talkers from N1 since it usually implies they checked their role and decided to avoid a target on their back.
River Tue 09:50

why do I give all my evil tactics away __-
Tue 09:50

I never talk day 1 anyway
Tue 09:52

ok so bester died, nobody knows why
Tue 09:52

any other things we could figure out now?
Lenore Tue 09:52

Still doesn't explain Bester's death otherwise. Me as VM would NEVER go for Bester as a recruit, and if he died by recruitment, he either was evil to begin with, or was recruited by 2 stupid bloodsuckers on the same night. Both of which are unlikely as shit.
Tue 09:52

Not much, as of now.
Tue 09:52

No one has intel from what I see.
Tue 09:52

I'd suggest lynching into a common sus if people are up to be bloodthirsty.
Tue 09:53

Balancing is boring.
River Tue 09:53

bloodthirsty like a vamp?
ShepherdBook Tue 09:53

Good early morning.
Lenore Tue 09:53

That meme's running dry.
Tue 09:53

But continue on, someone will probably still laugh.
River Tue 09:54

:P
Tue 09:54

anyway.
ShepherdBook Tue 09:54

I got a surprise last night.
River Tue 09:54

oh....
Lenore Tue 09:54

Oh, do share.
River Tue 09:54

like?
ShepherdBook Tue 09:55

Inara didn’t visit anyone.
Lenore Tue 09:55

Whoopy doo.
River Tue 09:55

doopywhoo
ShepherdBook Tue 09:55

She may be a banshee though...
Tracey Tue 09:55

interesting
River Tue 09:55

may she?
Lenore Tue 09:55

True, no shift and a prot claim worthy to be an SS. Soundss plausible.
ShepherdBook Tue 09:55

Because that is such an easy way to get caught out on.
Lenore Tue 09:56

Although, in numbers this large, we could afford a potential banshee lynch without much damage.
River Tue 09:56

Dont think she's banshee
Inara Tue 09:56

Shepard.
ShepherdBook Tue 09:56

In any case I doubt she spoke the truth.
Lenore Tue 09:56

What else do you think in that case?
Inara Tue 09:56

I mean, you're not wrong.
Tue 09:57

But I'd prefer if you hadn't just told everyone that.
Lenore Tue 09:57

Let's see: "I forgot"?
River Tue 09:57

no visit means you can't protect Kaylee next night
Tue 09:57

which is moot
Tue 09:57

so
Inara Tue 09:57

^
Lenore Tue 09:57

Why not yourself though? Doesn't seem like it would hurt.
Inara Tue 09:57

I literally just forgot
River Tue 09:58

Bad tactic
Tue 09:58

You should improve your start this game :P
Tue 09:58

*strat
Inara Tue 09:58

I probably should.
Lenore Tue 09:58

Hmm...
ShepherdBook Tue 09:58

It’s early in the game, and you were active enough contributing otherwise.
River Tue 09:58

Honestly, this would be a very bad gamble
Operative Tue 09:58

Its actually good for us though. Confirms shep
River Tue 09:59

I personally leave her off the leash, I think this would be a very bad evil play
Moderator Tue 09:59

Jayne votes to lynch Stitch
Jayne Tue 09:59

I need to apologize for not being active until now, I was on airplanes for all of yesterday and I am back here now and will catch up. Need to vote so I do not get smited. That is asv only.
River Tue 09:59

*let her off the leash? what ever
Tue 09:59

nice to have you Jayne
Tue 10:00

take your time and read back
Lenore Tue 10:00

Well, I think my work is cut out for today.
River Tue 10:00

get all people to vote?
Lenore Tue 10:01

My vote remains on Simon for now. Other susses include but are not restricted to: Zoe, Nandi and Atherton. Light reads since yesterday had so little to actually judge much, but these three pop up in my head as either forgettably striking, or generally trying to avoid attention from yesterday.
Tue 10:02

Meanwhile, I'll suggest the most radical of my ideas thus far: Try and lynch a common sus for today.
ShepherdBook Tue 10:03

Can you explain your suspicion on Simon? River is right that voting Inara is a big gamble.
Lenore Tue 10:03

As I said, light reads on him so far.
Tue 10:03

All of them are light, but significant enough for me to give some attention.
Tue 10:04

I have work to be done back at my work, so I'll be off until evening possibly. Go ahead and either 1) Try and actually get the village to do so, or 2) Label me as a mad woman and lynch me away if you can't handle my radical thoughts.
ShepherdBook Tue 10:05

Your light reads do not give the others any more ideas than they already have.
Inara Tue 10:06

Shepherd, do you have a N1 stalk, btw?
River Tue 10:06

good question^^
Lenore Tue 10:06

That's not my issue. I've stated my susses. I'll suggest people do the same if they disagree. It might not secure a lynch today, but we'l be better off than theory-crafting (which will absolutely turn to shitposting once the demon fuckheads join in).
ShepherdBook Tue 10:06

Yes. Simon didn’t go anywhere either.
Simon Tue 10:07

Ha Shep lies
Moderator Tue 10:07

Simon votes to lynch ShepherdBook
Inara Tue 10:07

Interesting.
ShepherdBook Tue 10:07

I got seer hints from him on D1, which is why I checked,
River Tue 10:07

*munches popcorn*
Inara Tue 10:07

No way Shepherd guessed I didn't visit.
Tue 10:07

So...
Simon Tue 10:07

So he's fam
Tue 10:08

Or you two are connected
Tue 10:08

I most certainly visited
ShepherdBook Tue 10:08

Simon so what do you claim to have done N1?
Simon Tue 10:08

Visited someone
Inara Tue 10:08

Simon, so would you deign us with a role claim?
Simon Tue 10:09

Not going to say who right now as it may put them at risk
Tue 10:10

Think it's a bit early for role claims
Operative Tue 10:10

Oof
Moderator Tue 10:10

River votes to lynch ShepherdBook
Moderator Tue 10:11

Operative votes to lynch Simon
River Tue 10:11

That's the wrong vote^^
Operative Tue 10:11

You think shep guessed that Inara didn't visit?
ShepherdBook Tue 10:11

Is it?
Tue 10:11

River?
Operative Tue 10:11

Would make more sense to say she self prot
River Tue 10:11

No, but I don't think any evil would cc a supposed non visit n1
Lenore Tue 10:12

You guys are gonna make me lose my time for working.
Tue 10:12

Nvm, I'll just move my vote away first.
River Tue 10:12

that reaction was very fast
Operative Tue 10:12

Why not? Makes us suss our stalker
Moderator Tue 10:12

Lenore votes to lynch ShepherdBook
River Tue 10:12

suicide?
Lenore Tue 10:13

N1 fam, N2 legit stalk, profit.
River Tue 10:13

you got 28 peeps, just lay low
Lenore Tue 10:13

Seems right for a fam to try and score points.
River Tue 10:13

Simon cc'ed in an instant
Inara Tue 10:13

On the other hand, why would Shepherd make up a risky check like that?
Operative Tue 10:13

Could have gone for someone dead
River Tue 10:13

maybe based on Lenore's sus?
Lenore Tue 10:13

Nahh, seems more likely he's a fam stalker.
Tue 10:13

Book, that is.
River Tue 10:13

going with the train
Lenore Tue 10:13

^
Simon Tue 10:13

Agree Lenore
Operative Tue 10:14

Evil would just pick kaylee surely
Tue 10:14

No-one to cc
ShepherdBook Tue 10:14

This is why I asked Lenore what her sus on Simon was...
Lenore Tue 10:14

You get fammed N1, N2 you get a juicy stalk and try to score lit points.
ShepherdBook Tue 10:14

Operative, I disagree.
Inara Tue 10:14

I want a role claim from Simon before making a decision :\
Operative Tue 10:14

Yeah then your N1 fake is you stalked kaylee
Lenore Tue 10:15

And what would Kaylee's visit be in that case?
ShepherdBook Tue 10:15

A harlot could have been on Kaylee. I could have been stalked myself.
Operative Tue 10:15

She visited x she died
River Tue 10:15

Kaylee's visit would be actually useful^^
Operative Tue 10:16

I don't know but I don't just trust Simon because he reacted quickly
Lenore Tue 10:16

Operative Tue 10:15 She visited x she died <=== Produces the same problem with Simon's case.
ShepherdBook Tue 10:16

And anyway, I didn’t stalk Kaylee.
Lenore Tue 10:17

Of course you didn't. That would be a whole new can of worms to deal with.
Tue 10:19

Well, for now I may have been wrong about Simon.
Simon Tue 10:19

Inara as you are on the same side as Book by confirming each other I'm not going to be baited into giving my role by a likely evil person
River Tue 10:19

I don't think they are together
Lenore Tue 10:19

Almost seems as if my argument on Book being a fam is being disregarded.
River Tue 10:19

No, that's my sus Lenore
ShepherdBook Tue 10:19

I don’t think it is.
Inara Tue 10:19

Not disregarded, definitely.
Simon Tue 10:20

Nope I'm in agreement Lenore
River Tue 10:20

I think Simon was a good gamble
ShepherdBook Tue 10:20

Simon seems to be saying the same.
Lenore Tue 10:20

Well, if he's thinking you and Inara as a potential team, that's already a big no-no.
River Tue 10:20

but you lost. Sorry
Inara Tue 10:20

TMW you're on a Live Support Chatr and accidentally type a ww.es message into that chat window.
Lenore Tue 10:20

Because a fam and their partner making this kind of scene is very weird to do. Too weird to be a viable tactic even.
River Tue 10:21

This is someone jumping on a good stalk
Lenore Tue 10:21

^
River Tue 10:21

just think Simon was way too quick for an evil
Tue 10:21

to CC that day 3.
Inara Tue 10:21

Hmm, I think I see what River means.
Lenore Tue 10:21

It's not conventional evil strat to play that hand.
Simon Tue 10:21

Thanks Sis
River Tue 10:21

<3
Inara Tue 10:21

An evil would want to weight up the pros and cons of counter-claiming?
Higgins Tue 10:21

https://giphy.com/gifs/cbc-lol-surprise-xT0xel9G0oZnFVDltK
Tue 10:21

i'm back
Lenore Tue 10:22

Yes Inara.
Inara Tue 10:22

So they'd need time to decide whether it was worth it.
River Tue 10:22

@Inara yes, just saying "NO I visited" is very very bold als evil
Lenore Tue 10:22

Pretty much.
Operative Tue 10:22

Or an evil already has their claim planned out and knew they had to cc a none visit
Higgins Tue 10:22

i think Bester ded could be mw kill
Inara Tue 10:22

Bold or stupid.
Tue 10:22

:D
Moderator Tue 10:22

Inara votes to lynch ShepherdBook
Lenore Tue 10:22

Operative Tue 10:22 Or an evil already has their claim planned out and knew they had to cc a none visit <=== You're creative.
Inara Tue 10:22

Sorry Shepherd. I think you stalked me, but I guess you're just not the stalker I thought you were.
Higgins Tue 10:23

poor Shepherd
Tue 10:23

i think Shepherd "could be" lit
Lenore Tue 10:24

Well, the IQ is about to plummet around here. Better save some for my work. bai bai
ShepherdBook Tue 10:24

Thank you Higgins, but I think my chances are better without your support.
Higgins Tue 10:24

we should lynch someone else, like Simon ^^
Moderator Tue 10:25

Higgins votes to lynch Simon
Inara Tue 10:25

"oof".
Jayne Tue 10:25

Can someone give me a TLDR of why there are 4 votes on Shepard. I read everything through once but I am not following all of this just yet.
Higgins Tue 10:25

like this ^^
Inara Tue 10:25

Jayne: tldr is...
Tue 10:25

I claimed protector yesterday, forgot to visit last night; Shepherd came out as stalker this morning and said I didn't visit, I confirmed this; he then said N1 Simon didn't visit, Simon counters saying that he did but won't say who or what his role is.
Jayne Tue 10:26

Thanks.
Tracey Tue 10:26

intrigue
Inara Tue 10:27

The working hypothesis is that Shepherd is a familiar stalker who was recruited N1.
River Tue 10:27

@Higgins while people voting Sheperd got some kind of reason, what's yours for Simon?
ShepherdBook Tue 10:27

The argument in favor of Simon is that he cc-d instantly.
Inara Tue 10:28

Right now, I think that Higgins is trying to be the final nail in Shepherd's coffin.
Jayne Tue 10:28

Did you ever explain WTF claiming protector D2 Inara? Lots of spam to read sorry.
Wash Tue 10:28

I was about to vote Simon myself before I considered that hypothesis. Lynching him makes more sense on a surface level because there are two people that arguably go against him (but not necessarily, hence the hypothesis).
Inara Tue 10:28

Jayne. I protected Kaylee. She died.
Tue 10:28

I thought that was worth coming out for.
Wash Tue 10:29

And I don't, but it really do be like that sometimes.
ShepherdBook Tue 10:29

What I would say is that Simon could be in a team with Inara, and be keen to pick holes in my story.
River Tue 10:29

uh?
Tue 10:29

that's even more creative than operative
Inara Tue 10:30

Also, I guess it's worth saying that Simon could still be evil.
Tue 10:30

Just a different evil to Shepherd.
Wash Tue 10:30

Nothing that precludes that from being the case.
ShepherdBook Tue 10:30

It is one way that could have allowed him to weigh up pros and cons of cc-ing me.
Operative Tue 10:31

I like my theory
Inara Tue 10:31

I like all the theories.
Higgins Tue 10:31

i have reason to believe Shepherd
Wash Tue 10:31

I have a theory.
River Tue 10:31

Tell us
Jayne Tue 10:31

okay I am caught up and have nothing to add. Sorry for the questions to get caught up.
Inara Tue 10:31

Another question: is there any harm in keeping Shepherd alive a bit longer?
Wash Tue 10:31

It's a Puppet plot to distract us from the real point.
River Tue 10:32

there are no puppets
Inara Tue 10:32

No puppets in the API.
River Tue 10:32

next.
Wash Tue 10:32

NO WAIT MY THEORH PLEASE
River Tue 10:32

kk :)
Wash Tue 10:32

ITS GOOOD
Inara Tue 10:32

Shhh Walsh.
Tue 10:32

Go back to your box.
Tue 10:32

Anyway, guys, would keeping Shepherd alive be dumb?
Wash Tue 10:32

For the last time, I'm not from feckin Wales.
Fess Tue 10:32

So he's supposed to be a stalker or sth? Shepherd guy. Didnt catch that.
SheriffBourne Tue 10:32

I think we're too eager with the pile on Book.
Inara Tue 10:32

Yes. Stalker.
River Tue 10:33

I don't
Tue 10:33

I think the piling is just fine
SheriffBourne Tue 10:33

I'm not so sure about Simon, would like to hear more from them.
Moderator Tue 10:33

SheriffBourne votes to lynch Simon
Moderator Tue 10:33

Wash votes to lynch DrCaron
Inara Tue 10:33

River. Don't avoid my question.
Wash Tue 10:33

I shan't touch your SILLY FACES.
River Tue 10:33

since we dont have a better lynch, Sheperd is just fine
SheriffBourne Tue 10:33

Also, I don't understand what happened with Lenore switching from Simon-main-sus to Simon-might-be-lit
River Tue 10:33

so why not
Tue 10:33

Brains
SheriffBourne Tue 10:33

We have a potential Fam, potential Stalker
River Tue 10:33

that was just too fast
Inara Tue 10:33

If he's a familiar, he's recruited N1. That means if we lynch a vampire we have a reference point for where they'll turn up next.
SheriffBourne Tue 10:34

I don't see the necessity of lynching Book
Tue 10:34

The Fam won't move anywhere
River Tue 10:34

if we kill the fam, and find the vamp, he wont turn up anywhere
Simon Tue 10:34

Lenore, River you've been here most of the morning: should I reveal my role?
River Tue 10:34

also fine
Tue 10:34

no
SheriffBourne Tue 10:34

(And just for clarity, I'm not leaning towards Book-is-Fam atm, my judgement is still not made)
Inara Tue 10:35

TMW Simon recruited River N1.
River Tue 10:35

also no^^
Simon Tue 10:35

Well that was about as fast as my cc so I won't
River Tue 10:35

also it would be Lenore recruiting River, get your history right^^
Inara Tue 10:35

Hmm.
Moderator Tue 10:35

Fess votes to lynch ShepherdBook
River Tue 10:36

that was a joke btw.
Jayne Tue 10:36

What is TMW?
Inara Tue 10:36

"That moment when"
River Tue 10:36

the moment when
Fess Tue 10:36

Fess up, Shepard
SheriffBourne Tue 10:36

Hey Fess
Fess Tue 10:36

Hey Bourne
SheriffBourne Tue 10:36

Talk to us
Tue 10:36

Why the vote on Book?
River Tue 10:36

I honestly want higgins reasons for trusting bookie
SheriffBourne Tue 10:36

Same here
Inara Tue 10:36

That would be nice.
Fess Tue 10:37

Because i know for sure he lies
Inara Tue 10:37

But I'm still a bit annoyed at Simon. Also at you, River.
River Tue 10:37

I understand the general "yeah it could be both" but the context for me clearly points towards Bookie gambling and lost.,
ShepherdBook Tue 10:37

I don’t think Higgins is going to contribute any rational thought.
Inara Tue 10:37

"I visited guys he's lying, trust me!"
Tue 10:37

We know that vague claims only benefit evils.
River Tue 10:37

oh well, I also tihnk you're lit^^
Inara Tue 10:37

So I will keep pushing that he reveals his role.
SheriffBourne Tue 10:37

I think I like Inara. I think I dislike/suspect people who are very eager on the Book-lynch, like River.
Tue 10:38

Oh, but here we have Fess.
Tue 10:38

You 'know for sure'
Tue 10:38

Please elaborate
Inara Tue 10:38

Fess. What Bourne said.
Fess Tue 10:38

Inara could be team with Shepard... But his N1 check is definitely bogus
Inara Tue 10:38

And you know this, how?
River Tue 10:38

I don't think Inara is in the same team
Fess Tue 10:39

Im in the same team with Simon
ShepherdBook Tue 10:39

Fess, oh.
Inara Tue 10:39

Interesting.
Tue 10:39

What team is that, Fess?
Fess Tue 10:39

Mhm thats right
Inara Tue 10:39

(hint: don't say coven).
Fess Tue 10:39

It's a cool faction
River Tue 10:39

lol
Tue 10:39

COVEN
Fess Tue 10:39

Try cooler
River Tue 10:39

I'm so confused
SheriffBourne Tue 10:39

Do I smell fire? The fire that burns witches?
Inara Tue 10:39

Fess, Inquisition.
Fess Tue 10:40

Yes. Burn them all
Inara Tue 10:40

Interesting.
SheriffBourne Tue 10:40

Cool!
Fess Tue 10:40

Mhm
SheriffBourne Tue 10:40

Subfaction claim is a strong claim.
Fess Tue 10:40

Very cool
River Tue 10:40

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/thumb/1/18/Inquisition.jpg/300px-Inquisition.jpg
Simon Tue 10:40

Super cool
SheriffBourne Tue 10:40

Even though it needs verification, I'm more pro-Simon and anti-Book now
Inara Tue 10:40

So, Simon, you recruited Fess N1?
SheriffBourne Tue 10:40

Simon, I assume you'll roll along with Fess?
Inara Tue 10:40

Or...?
ShepherdBook Tue 10:40

And you say you were recruited N1?
Inara Tue 10:40

You recruited someone else N1?
Fess Tue 10:40

I dont see the point of hiding it from you guys. Were not illu so yah
Inara Tue 10:41

Hahaha. Illuminati don't exist.
Tue 10:41

Right? Right...?
Tue 10:41

Wait, that's demons.
Tue 10:41

Nevermind.
SheriffBourne Tue 10:41

Fess, you're IL then? And you recruited Simon?
Tue 10:41

InqL*
Tue 10:41

(to distinguish from Illuminati)
Simon Tue 10:41

I visited someone N1 in an attempt to aid the inquisition
SheriffBourne Tue 10:42

That makes you Inquisitor, then
Fess Tue 10:42

Ohyeah
Inara Tue 10:42

Meh.
Fess Tue 10:42

I guess ill give my checks now
Tue 10:43

For those guys to confirm
River Tue 10:43

why didn't my picture render :(
Inara Tue 10:43

@River, I think they turned off http:// links.
Tue 10:43

'Cause SSL yo!
River Tue 10:44

http://i.imgur.com/UrA6iSd.jpg
Tue 10:44

way too late
Fess Tue 10:45

Well... Here it is... N1- Atherton (nonwc) N2- Mr.U (nonwc)
River Tue 10:45

Ok so inquisition claim
Moderator Tue 10:45

SheriffBourne votes to lynch ShepherdBook
Operative Tue 10:45

I mean, it's not looking good for book
Moderator Tue 10:45

Operative votes to lynch ShepherdBook
Fess Tue 10:45

Oh crap. Nooo.
River Tue 10:45

uhm
ShepherdBook Tue 10:45

It doesn’t.
Fess Tue 10:45

This is a banshee
Tue 10:45

O.O
River Tue 10:45

with a stalk? :P
Fess Tue 10:46

Fake ones
River Tue 10:46

No
Tue 10:46

I don't think Inara is fake
Simon Tue 10:46

No
Fess Tue 10:46

Oh u saw the stalk?
Higgins Tue 10:46

hmm, inquisitor
Tue 10:46

interesting
River Tue 10:46

I saw nothing, I'm not that pervy
Higgins Tue 10:46

this explains "something"
SheriffBourne Tue 10:46

Higgins, you were saying earlier...
Tue 10:46

about your trust
Inara Tue 10:46

Higgins.
Tue 10:46

You seem to have information.
SheriffBourne Tue 10:46

(cheers,Inara!)
Inara Tue 10:46

Please share it with the class.
River Tue 10:47

Ok f it
Tue 10:47

I'll share some info
Tue 10:47

I'm in the middle of attention anyway
Inara Tue 10:47

\o/
River Tue 10:47

kaylee was ML
Inara Tue 10:47

Share ALL the info.
River Tue 10:47

That's why I'm kinda trusting Inara
Tue 10:47

since this morning...
SheriffBourne Tue 10:47

GD claim then, River? :)
River Tue 10:48

her story makes 100% sense
Tue 10:48

yes
Inara Tue 10:48

I hope there's a GR in this game.
Tue 10:48

Also, I just realised that Simon and Fess want me dead ;-;
River Tue 10:48

hah
Tue 10:48

tmw
Moderator Tue 10:48

Higgins votes to lynch ShepherdBook
Wash Tue 10:48

GR + Reviver = UNLIMITED MASONS
Inara Tue 10:48

Well, six/
Tue 10:48

Not *quite* unlimited.
Wash Tue 10:48

UUUUNNNNLIIIIMMMIIITEEEED
Fess Tue 10:49

Somebody saw Shepherd visit?
River Tue 10:49

POWAAAA
Inara Tue 10:49

Also, I just realised something else.
River Tue 10:49

we lost track on higgins
Inara Tue 10:49

But I'm gonna keep that to myself :3
River Tue 10:49

*pokes higgins*
Wash Tue 10:49

:3
Simon Tue 10:49

Yeah, if you're lit we still want you dead eventually
River Tue 10:49

My brother hates heretics
Fess Tue 10:49

Burn to ashes...
River Tue 10:49

*scratches head*
Fess Tue 10:49

Sorry.
River Tue 10:49

a fanatical
Fess Tue 10:49

:p
Inara Tue 10:50

Abhor the Witch
River Tue 10:50

I have no saying in this sorry, I'll just dig your ashes.
Inara Tue 10:50

Man, a templars faction alongside the inquisition would be rough.
Wash Tue 10:50

Should we take Inq as indicative as Coven without a PM, or an outright bamboozle by either the purported Inq or Mark himself?
Inara Tue 10:50

No Pity! No Remore! No Fear!
River Tue 10:50

+s
Tue 10:51

for ya
Tue 10:51

@inquisition, can you maybe NOT burn her, look this grave digging stuff and finding out the role is a real pain with some shitty piles of ash
Tue 10:51

just chop her to pieces or quarter her.
Tue 10:51

ok?
Inara Tue 10:52

So, anyway...
Simon Tue 10:52

We'll save her until the end
Inara Tue 10:52

About Higgins.
River Tue 10:52

yeah
Tue 10:52

I poked him already
Tue 10:52

*hands out popcorn*
Higgins Tue 10:53

https://media.giphy.com/media/l41obiiUf0n42dvLG/giphy.gif
Tue 10:54

don't need to worry about me
Jayne Tue 10:54

so first night death being dug and ML helps with inara claiming prot becuase the failed ML recruit of evil was cause of death?
SheriffBourne Tue 10:54

Simon and/or Fess, anything you want to say about Higgins on your end? Seems like he's latching onto you, not sure if the bond is reciprocal...
River Tue 10:55

"not sure if the bond is reciprocal..." such a beautiful wording.
Operative Tue 10:55

Makes sense. Looks like we have at least 1 vamp
Simon Tue 10:55

Nope looks like shit posting to me
SheriffBourne Tue 10:56

Alright, thanks for that info
Jayne Tue 10:56

So does N1 no evil kill mean we probably don't have wolves?
Wash Tue 10:57

aSsUmInG tHe PrOt iS LiT
Jayne Tue 10:58

Ya so inara and river are in the same boat on that one
Higgins Tue 10:58

i think inq still need to prove themself
Simon Tue 10:58

How?
Operative Tue 10:59

Well they've said 2 people non wc so that should do it
Tue 10:59

Those people can cc if they are
Tue 10:59

Also interested in why they didn't check Inara
Simon Tue 11:00

Why check someone who is either evil or a heretic?
Operative Tue 11:00

If they come up as none wc you knowntheyre lying
Tue 11:00

And evil
Higgins Tue 11:01

Why don't we play a game? Inq can visit me tonight. Maybe you will have something juicy
Simon Tue 11:01

We have other things to find early on
Tue 11:02

How about no Higgins
Jayne Tue 11:02

First game with inquisition for me. Can someone give me the bullet list of important bits about it?
River Tue 11:02

They don't like magic users
Tue 11:02

no matter which faction
Inara Tue 11:03

They're literally the Black Templares of werewolv.es.
Tue 11:03

Templars*
River Tue 11:03

Grey Knights
Operative Tue 11:03

Don't start killing off village power roles yet though
Higgins Tue 11:03

i sell juices
Operative Tue 11:03

Inq is still on village team
River Tue 11:03

I already asked them not to burn Inara too bad.
Inara Tue 11:04

"too bad" xD
Jayne Tue 11:04

Is it a team with their own win condition?
River Tue 11:04

hey don't blame me, I'm on your side, I advocated for a proper quartering
Simon Tue 11:04

Evils will kill off the prot for us eventually
Higgins Tue 11:04

how about we burn Inara? ^^
Inara Tue 11:05

How about no?
Higgins Tue 11:05

no u
Jayne Tue 11:06

So they are villagers I get that. So they are just villagers with anti magic powers and no different win conditions?
Operative Tue 11:06

Read the how to play
Jayne Tue 11:06

I am reading it, sorry.
Wash Tue 11:06

For them to win, ALL magic users must be dead with at least one member of the Inquisition alive at the end of the game.
Tue 11:06

Plus standard village condition of all evils being dead.
Saffron Tue 11:07

hi
Higgins Tue 11:07

can we somehow have 2 inq? <(")
Inara Tue 11:07

Seems unlikely.
Wash Tue 11:07

Sure. We've had two Mason Leaders before.
Tue 11:08

But they would be in the same night chat.
Inara Tue 11:08

Yes, but they'd know about each other.
Wash Tue 11:08

gotta go faster to counterpoint me inara
Tue 11:08

pezzant
Saffron Tue 11:09

or if there's an inquisition leader, they could recruit
Inara Tue 11:09

Didn't I tell you to go back into your box, Walsh?
Tue 11:10

Saffron, did you read back?
Saffron Tue 11:10

yes, reading right now
Inara Tue 11:10

*wonders how you knew I was speaking to you*
Saffron Tue 11:11

btw, do you guys mind if I place a random vote for now?
Inara Tue 11:11

As long as it's randomly on Shepherd.
Moderator Tue 11:11

Saffron votes to lynch ShepherdBook
Saffron Tue 11:11

if you wish :p
Wash Tue 11:11

What are the chances of that?
Simon Tue 11:11

Would appreciate some guarding tonight prot or HM don't mind which
Wash Tue 11:11

Crazy.
Mingo Tue 11:11

What do we think Kaylee was?
Moderator Tue 11:11

Mingo votes to lynch Higgins
Inara Tue 11:11

Mingo.
Mingo Tue 11:11

ASV
Inara Tue 11:11

Maybe read back a bit.
Simon Tue 11:12

ML mingo
Inara Tue 11:12

Today @ Tue 10:47
Tue 11:12

Simon, I can't believe you're asking for protection from the Protector :P
Tue 11:12

Hypocritical much? ;D
Simon Tue 11:13

Do your job and I'll spare you from the cleansing flame for as long as I can
Inara Tue 11:14

Hm. Or don't and maybe I'll avoid the problem all together.
Simon Tue 11:15

Well we should still have an HM once you're crispy
Inara Tue 11:15

This day in history: Simon talking to Inara
Tue 11:15

https://cdn-images.threadless.com/threadless-media/artist_shops/shops/beardsandcats/products/312691/shirt-1504603203-cf20ac63d09c125a6d74781b359d673b.png?v=3&d=eyJvbmx5X21ldGEiOiBmYWxzZSwgImZvcmNlIjogZmFsc2UsICJvcHMiOiBbWyJ0cmltIiwgW2ZhbHNlLCBmYWxzZV0sIHt9XSwgWyJyZXNpemUiLCBbXSwgeyJ3aWR0aCI6IDk5Ni4wLCAiYWxsb3dfdXAiOiBmYWxzZSwgImhlaWdodCI6IDk5Ni4wfV0sIFsiY2FudmFzX2NlbnRlcmVkIiwgWzEyMDAsIDEyMDBdLCB7ImJhY2tncm91bmQiOiAiMjMxZjIwIn1dLCBbInJlc2l6ZSIsIFs4MDBdLCB7fV0sIFsiY2FudmFzX2NlbnRlcmVkIiwgWzgwMCwgODAwLCAiI2ZmZmZmZiJdLCB7fV0sIFsiZW5jb2RlIiwgWyJqcGciLCA4NV0sIHt9XV19
Tue 11:15

:K
Simon Tue 11:15

Yep
Mingo Tue 11:16

A gd claimed already?
Inara Tue 11:16

Yes.
Mingo Tue 11:16

Aight
Tue 11:17

Unfortunate for us
Simon Tue 11:17

Please just read Mingo
Mingo Tue 11:19

There was a lot of shit posting yesterday tbh
Tue 11:19

I didn't have much of the appetite to read
Simon Tue 11:19

Just read today
Mingo Tue 11:19

Sure, I'm very happy to do that
Higgins Tue 11:20

no kill n1 seems unlikely
Tue 11:21

maybe we have multi vamp?
Tue 11:21

and they recruited n1?
Operative Tue 11:21

They recruited our boy Book
Higgins Tue 11:24

Bookie, i trusted for a little time. Why do you do this to me? :(
ShepherdBook Tue 11:25

This is all under the assumption that every vampire and faction recruited N1. Vampires I get, factions not so much.
Tue 11:25

Higgins, I don't know what your agenda is. I'm not aware having done anything to you.
Moderator Tue 11:27

Mingo votes to lynch ShepherdBook
ShepherdBook Tue 11:27

I still don't trust Simon with his seer hints and no visit.
Mingo Tue 11:27

I'm convinced
Simon Tue 11:27

Seer hints?
Mingo Tue 11:27

Actually, maybe I shouldn't just bandwagon before people confirm the WC checks
ShepherdBook Tue 11:27

But the majority of the village still has made their minds up.
Moderator Tue 11:27

Mingo votes to lynch Atherton
ShepherdBook Tue 11:28

Yes, Simon. "I look forward to seeing the melee unfold" or something you said D1.
Tue 11:28

This is why I wanted to know from Lenore what her suspicion of you was.
Simon Tue 11:30

Simon Sun 18:12 Evenin' all Sun 18:12 No puppets eh? Sun 18:13 Good to know Sun 18:14 Looking forward to seeing what kinda hoedown we have on our hands
Tue 11:30
Tue 11:30

That?
ShepherdBook Tue 11:30

Yes, that.
Operative Tue 11:32

Why did you recruit fess btw Simon?
Tue 11:32

Any reason or just random?
Simon Tue 11:32

I didn't
Operative Tue 11:32

Ah so you've recruited someone wlse
Tue 11:33

Don't say who, was just thinking out loud
MrUniverse Tue 11:34

Morning everyone
Tue 11:34

I can confirm that I am not a heretic
Simon Tue 11:34

Hey MrU, do you use WC?
Tue 11:35

Huzzah
MrUniverse Tue 11:35

Nope
Tue 11:35

My faith is strong
Simon Tue 11:35

Good to know ;)
Moderator Tue 11:36

Jayne votes to lynch ShepherdBook
MrUniverse Tue 11:36

So, seems shepard messed up a stalker claim?
ShepherdBook Tue 11:36

So Martin says.
Tue 11:37

I'm still not convinced.
MrUniverse Tue 11:37

Martin?
Jayne Tue 11:37

okay I am up to speed now finally made a read through that mainly made sense to me of today.
ShepherdBook Tue 11:37

The Inq L claim/
Tue 11:37

Oh. Simon. Sorry.
Inara Tue 11:37

Shane?
ShepherdBook Tue 11:37

I keep thinking of him as Martin.
Jayne Tue 11:37

I am not sure what Higgins has to do with all of this yet is my last pending question.
ShepherdBook Tue 11:38

I don't know why.
Tue 11:38

And I don't think Higgins has anything to do with this.
Higgins Tue 11:38

https://media.giphy.com/media/l41obiiUf0n42dvLG/giphy.gif
Inara Tue 11:39

Can we kill Higgins just because?
Tue 11:39

Lynch Higgins and Militia Shepherd?
ShepherdBook Tue 11:39

Because he is likely a banshee? Oh no, that was Niska.
Inara Tue 11:39

Hmm. Banshee.
Higgins Tue 11:39

can we burn Inara just because she is wc and let inq win? ^^
ShepherdBook Tue 11:39

In that case you're better off shooting Higgins and purifying him the same night.
Tue 11:39

But he may already have been purified.
Operative Tue 11:40

Why would we kill a protection role on day 3
MrUniverse Tue 11:40

Surely that's one of the last things we do? @Higgins
Operative Tue 11:40

Or ever
ShepherdBook Tue 11:40

A protection role?
Higgins Tue 11:40

i think i claimed banshee yesterday <(")
MrUniverse Tue 11:40

I'm speaking as though we want to help the inq win
ShepherdBook Tue 11:40

Operative?
MrUniverse Tue 11:40

Although, chances are, evil will kill inara
Higgins Tue 11:41

<Higgins> Mon 12:19 sure, maybe i'm banshee and i'm trying to get killed
ShepherdBook Tue 11:41

I think she can self-protect tonight if she really is the protector.
Simon Tue 11:41

Just double checked - no roleblock message for N1
ShepherdBook Tue 11:41

River seems to confirm Inara.
Tue 11:42

Simon, you should have received a recruitment confirmation if you recruited someone, shouldn't you?
Simon Tue 11:43

Only if successful
Jayne Tue 11:43

My take to now is that inara and river are confirming each other and are neutral on book - Simon and Fess confirm each other as Inquis and implicate book
ShepherdBook Tue 11:43

That makes sense.
Tue 11:43

But I wonder why Martin hasn't been mentioning the failed recruit.
Inara Tue 11:44

Simon.
ShepherdBook Tue 11:44

SORRY SIMON
MrUniverse Tue 11:44

You mean simon
Jayne Tue 11:44

WTF is martin
ShepherdBook Tue 11:44

Martin is a ghost in my head.
Jayne Tue 11:44

okay
ShepherdBook Tue 11:44

He wears the same shirt as Simon.
MrUniverse Tue 11:44

Did Simon say he tried to recruit?
ShepherdBook Tue 11:44

And has dark hair.
Operative Tue 11:44

He didn't die trying so they aren't wolf or vamp
ShepherdBook Tue 11:44

I don't think we have wolves to be honest.
Stitch Tue 11:45

hello
Inara Tue 11:45

I hope Shepherd is the VM and we catch him post-ressurection because of "Martin".
Operative Tue 11:45

I prefer wolves to other evil factions, less bs
Inara Tue 11:45

It'll be Walsh all over again.
ShepherdBook Tue 11:45

Simon claims to have tried to recruit. That was his CC of me seeing he went nowhere.
Stitch Tue 11:45

can someone tell me what has happened today
ShepherdBook Tue 11:45

But the recruit failure wasn't mentioned.
MrUniverse Tue 11:45

Is he the leader or the Inquisitor?
ShepherdBook Tue 11:46

No, Fess claims inquisitor.
Tue 11:46

So that makes Mart
Tue 11:46

SIMON the leader.
Inara Tue 11:47

I can understand the Inq not revealing a failed recruit straight away tbh.
Operative Tue 11:47

Yeah it might be village PR
ShepherdBook Tue 11:47

PR?
Inara Tue 11:47

For masons, it pretty much just means evil, but that's not the case for Inq.
Operative Tue 11:47

Power role
Inara Tue 11:47

Pull Request?
ShepherdBook Tue 11:47

Oh
Inara Tue 11:47

Oh.
Jayne Tue 11:48

So Simom could be inquisitor or inquisition leader? Is that the idea?
ShepherdBook Tue 11:49

Inqu Leader is the implied claim. And I stalked him but got no visit report.
Inara Tue 11:53

Hmm. Stalker reports quite clearly indicate the name of the person, don't they?
Tue 11:53

"Simon did not visit anyone last night" or something like that?
River Tue 11:53

yup
Inara Tue 11:54

So no redirection fuckery.
Jayne Tue 11:55

Does it give a negative report with a name also?
Inara Tue 11:55

I believe so.
Jayne Tue 11:55

xxxx visited nobody or somesuch?
Inara Tue 11:55

Only beholder doesn't, from what I remember.
ShepherdBook Tue 11:56

It says "Inara didn't visit anyone".
Tue 11:56

Not "your target" or anything like that.
Inara Tue 11:56

Yeah, thought so.
Jayne Tue 11:56

okay so redirection in both positive and negative would report on the redirection target
ShepherdBook Tue 11:56

Yes.
Inara Tue 11:56

Yup.
ShepherdBook Tue 11:56

But I didn't get a report N1.
Tue 11:57

Oh
Inara Tue 11:57

What do you mean by "didn't get a report"
Jayne Tue 11:57

Ya explain WTF that means.
Inara Tue 11:57

That's different to "Simon didn't visit"...
Tue 11:57

[suspicious eyes]
Tue 11:58

��
Operative Tue 11:58

Don't copy and paste btw
Jayne Tue 11:59

Is he trying to fake he didn't actually push the button? We will need to lynch you anyway for being an idiot If your claim is now you forgot to push the button and only imagined you stalked Simon.
Inara Tue 12:00

Ehhh. Awkward.
Jayne Tue 12:02

Inara I imagine you were thinking maybe book got redirected - is there any version of that that leads to no message at all?
ShepherdBook Tue 12:03

No. Roleblock will still give you a role block message.
Jayne Tue 12:03

So explain exaclty WTF you meant by no message Book.
ShepherdBook Tue 12:04

I am afraid Jayne has got the right answer and you need to lynch me regardless.
Inara Tue 12:05

Jayne, not to no message at all afaik.
Wash Tue 12:05

I have had dreams where I have legitimately become unsure whether or not I did something because the lines between the dream and life were unclear in my tired state.
Inara Tue 12:06

Although, this does seem like a Naruto-protector situation all over again.
Tue 12:06

Ugh.
Wash Tue 12:06

I'm going to be the next Hokage.
Inara Tue 12:06

So, just to clarify, ShepherdBrook - you DID NOT get a report N1?
Tue 12:06

Book*
Wash Tue 12:08

"This claim is getting worse all the time!" - Lando Calrissian
Tue 12:10

I am taking sides here, but don't confuse that with me taking a side.
Tue 12:11

Any thoughts on my own theorising regarding the inclusion of Inquisition in the setup?
Jayne Tue 12:12

Yes ShepardBook, your claim is getting worse. If we look back on this and all of this us actually because you just imagined you checked Simon and decided a non message was the same as a did not visit message then LoL and that really sucks of you.
Lawrence Tue 12:18

Damn
Tue 12:18

Kyle was a mason leader
Tue 12:18

Yes I am a badass gd
Wash Tue 12:19

RIP, Kyle.
Tue 12:19

We never knew ye.
Lawrence Tue 12:19

Kaylee
Inara Tue 12:19

@Lawrence.
Tue 12:19

River already told us that.
Lawrence Tue 12:20

Well then i did not read
Tue 12:21

And yes two gds are plausible
Jayne Tue 12:21

Well GDs are confirming each other are least for the moment. Second GD seems sus though to me a bit. No need for that.
Lawrence Tue 12:21

2 gds is a sus?
Tue 12:21

No need in a 30 plus game?
Moderator Tue 12:21

Lawrence votes to lynch Inara
Lawrence Tue 12:21

Asv
Jayne Tue 12:22

No you not reading and repeating first info. for no reason.
ShepherdBook Tue 12:22

Lawrence, you may want to read of my misfortunes first before casting such a vote...
Inara Tue 12:23

Two GDs isn't suspicious. That you came out for no reason with no new information is a bit though,
ShepherdBook Tue 12:23

I think I deserve to be lynched here, and Inara looks a lot better now that the other GD has cleared her.
Lawrence Tue 12:23

Well i did not read
Tue 12:23

Also get of my back or i will go agressive :)
Wash Tue 12:23

Do it, coward.
Lawrence Tue 12:23

1st time warning for you fake prot
ShepherdBook Tue 12:24

If you don't want to be associated with an idiot who is getting lynched for messing the village around, you don't want to vote
Jayne Tue 12:24

You are either lazy and outed your role for no reason and didn't check for previous GD dig is bad form.
ShepherdBook Tue 12:24

Oh. My. Dear. Lord.
Lawrence Tue 12:24

Well i did not read
Wash Tue 12:24

I want to see a big fight.
Lawrence Tue 12:24

Now please get of my back
Inara Tue 12:24

@Lawrence
Tue 12:24

https://media.tenor.com/images/5199c1a3e39e3601763cef35a9718708/tenor.gif
Lawrence Tue 12:24

Yes you are a fake prot
Monty Tue 12:24

Oof.
Lawrence Tue 12:24

Explain your actions
Inara Tue 12:24

My actions?
Monty Tue 12:24

Morning ^^
ShepherdBook Tue 12:24

Lawrence...
Higgins Tue 12:24

<ShepherdBook> Tue 12:24 Oh. My. Dear. Lord.
Wash Tue 12:25

fight fight fight
Higgins Tue 12:25

Books, are you hellhound?
Lawrence Tue 12:25

I know what you will say lol
Tue 12:25

Ml tried to recruit a wolf
Tue 12:25

LOL
Moderator Tue 12:25

Lawrence votes to lynch ShepherdBook
Lawrence Tue 12:25

I will go read back
Inara Tue 12:25

"ML tried to recruit a vampire".
Wash Tue 12:25

What was it in 295, Occam's razor? That adage says "PrOt fAkE".
Lawrence Tue 12:25

Still i dont like any of you
Higgins Tue 12:25

are you saying something to your demunlord?
Inara Tue 12:25

BOOM, nailed it.
Wash Tue 12:26

Not that I believe it, I just want to give Lawrence ammo to see what he does with it.
Inara Tue 12:26

https://media.tenor.com/images/c8c06e5efd412a8e8c6b14f1748c6185/tenor.gif
Tue 12:26

Now I'll go.
Higgins Tue 12:26

maybe we have bugletter somehow a strange bug happened and Book saw Simon visited no one when actually Simon did visit
Inara Tue 12:26

Higgins, we've moved on now.
ShepherdBook Tue 12:26

Higgins, I think you
Tue 12:26

Nevermind.
Inara Tue 12:27

Shepherd didn't see Simon not visit. He didn't see anything N1.
Wash Tue 12:27

literally what if it was an n1 shift my dudes
Inara Tue 12:27

Walsh. Box. Go. Now.
Jayne Tue 12:27

I see Higgins is just an obnoxious kind of troll person who doesn't contribute much but wants to be seen as active
Wash Tue 12:27

chichen nunget
Inara Tue 12:27

I think Higgins actively wants to die.
Higgins Tue 12:27

no u
Lawrence Tue 12:28

Ok i was reading
Higgins Tue 12:28

i don't want to die
Wash Tue 12:28

In real life or the game?
Higgins Tue 12:28

let me a live
Lawrence Tue 12:28

Sorry for my outburst
ShepherdBook Tue 12:28

Which is why I said he was probably a banshee.
Higgins Tue 12:28

you will have something juicy if you let me alive
Lawrence Tue 12:28

I shouldnt have came out
Tue 12:28

I was just angry that i did not came early morning as i wanted to
Monty Tue 12:28

Why there too many text too read?
Jayne Tue 12:28

banshee - crap I hope we don't have a banshee
Lawrence Tue 12:28

But the fact inara is alive is still sus
Wash Tue 12:28

Undead without a Revenant or VD? I would question it, but it's not beyond the scope of possibility.
ShepherdBook Tue 12:29

Well there are two people who were fighting each other over that title yesterday.
Higgins Tue 12:29

my message was eaten ;-;
Moderator Tue 12:29

Monty votes to lynch ShepherdBook
Wash Tue 12:29

Post it again.
Jayne Tue 12:30

I really dislike banshee in game so for the moment I am going to push that out of my mind until a GD digs a banshee
Monty Tue 12:30

I will continue my sleeps now. Night night.
Lawrence Tue 12:30

Ok
ShepherdBook Tue 12:30

Higgins, if you want our sympathy, you may need to change the way you try to contribute.
Lawrence Tue 12:30

Tomorrow
Tue 12:30

Can i leave my gd dig first
Tue 12:30

?
Tue 12:30

:)
Higgins Tue 12:31

ask River
Lawrence Tue 12:31

Will do
Tue 12:31

And we can dig faster
Monty Tue 12:31

Lawrence is GD? Why the hell there are peeps claims too early?
Lawrence Tue 12:31

After we lynch mister there
Tue 12:31

Sorry my bad for claiming :(
Tue 12:32

Did not read expecting i am the first to come out
Monty Tue 12:32

Urgh? Are we serious here?
Jayne Tue 12:33

So we have just had a role call extravaganza so far today.
Higgins Tue 12:33

everyone can claim anything at anytime if they want ^^
Monty Tue 12:35

I didn't read the chat yet. I'm feel soo lazy. It's holiday today. So I want a holiday from reading too. ^^
Lawrence Tue 12:35

Higgings you look evil
Higgins Tue 12:36

how evil i look?
Monty Tue 12:37

I don't like this theme. It give me bad memories. And I don't like how you look too Lawrence. Telling peeps look evils didn't help.
Lawrence Tue 12:38

100 percent evil.
Tue 12:38

Ok Monty
Tue 12:38

You can come on my back too ^^
Monty Tue 12:39

What did you have on your back?
Higgins Tue 12:39

evil wing?
Monty Tue 12:40

With my current mood, I won't understand any double meaning sentences whatsoever.
Tue 12:42

Is there anyone that have claim list somewhere?
River Tue 12:42

hmmm 12
Monty Tue 12:43

What 12
River Tue 12:43

votes on Sheppy
Monty Tue 12:43

?
Tue 12:43

So?
Higgins Tue 12:43

Monty, are you sleepwalker?
River Tue 12:43

Dunno, maybe Sheperd really missed the check?
Tue 12:43

Shepperd
Tue 12:43

you here?
Monty Tue 12:43

I don't know.
Higgins Tue 12:44

you are sleepy and you are walking here ^^
Monty Tue 12:44

How do I know if I walk while sleeps?
Tue 12:45

How do you know I'm sleepy or notM
Tue 12:45

?
Tue 12:45

Are you living with me?
Higgins Tue 12:45

<Monty> Tue 12:30 I will continue my sleeps now. Night night.
Monty Tue 12:45

-_-''
Tue 12:45

Yeah. I plan to.
Higgins Tue 12:45

just continue your sleep
Monty Tue 12:46

But I dont think it a good idea now.
Higgins Tue 12:46

is it?
Monty Tue 12:47

After awake some more, I realised that it still early and I already sleeps more hour than I sleep at night.
Lenore Tue 12:49

I'm back for a while.
Tue 12:50

Boy did the IQ take a hike.
River Tue 12:50

I blame it on higgins
Lenore Tue 12:50

You know the feeling when you just can't make sense of a person's actions? I'm feeling exactly that right now.
Higgins Tue 12:51

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4ifSrE8iSg
Lenore Tue 12:51

You try to formulate a reason but all you get is "WTF".
Tue 12:51

That said, Book now claims that he forgot to check N1?
JubalEarly Tue 12:51

haven't had time to read anything yet but Bester seems like a weird kill
Mal Tue 12:51

That was a lot of chat, what a useful morning. 2 GD Claims seeing an ML (shame for the village, but at least helps answer some of the "what happened Kaylee" problem). Book seems all over the place. and <3 to the Inq, down with magic users.
Moderator Tue 12:51

Mal votes to lynch ShepherdBook
Lenore Tue 12:51

Hmm...
Wash Tue 12:52

*snaps ankles* Maybe THIS person will theorise with me, you ungrateful monkeys.
Lenore Tue 12:52

Oooh.
JubalEarly Tue 12:52

gonna try to read up
Lenore Tue 12:52

Yeah, I'm the crazy lady.
JubalEarly Tue 12:52

kinda busy though
Higgins Tue 12:52

monkeys?
Wash Tue 12:52

LENORE. INQUISITION. SETUP IMPLICATIONS AND WHY THERE IS NOT A PUPPETMASTER.
Lenore Tue 12:52

Inquisition ==> Coven presence.
Tue 12:52

No PM ===> Probably means multiple harpies.
Tue 12:53

Potential is there.
Wash Tue 12:53

Of which we have seen no evidence of so far, so they would be laying low.
Higgins Tue 12:53

multi harpies, multi djinn, 273 is happening again
Mal Tue 12:53

With all these early claims, I'm going to need to get a spreadsheet going earlier than expected.
Lenore Tue 12:53

Djinns are most likely swapping internally, if at all.
Wash Tue 12:53

I've had one since D1.
Lenore Tue 12:54

I have none. All in the head.
Wash Tue 12:54

I doubt they'd create hassle like that for themselves.
Lenore Tue 12:54

They don't call me crazy for nothin' muffin.
Higgins Tue 12:54

multi vamps, coven without pm and maybe multi harpies
Tue 12:54

273 alert
Lenore Tue 12:55

Looking at the recent kill, I see more potential of a wolfpack, coven and undeads max.
Wash Tue 12:55

Consistent killing, you mean?
Tue 12:55

A sample size of only two nights.
Lenore Tue 12:55

That, and the weird kill on Bester.
Tue 12:56

Implies there was information possessed behind that kill.
Tue 12:56

As I mentioned before, BH sniffing is likely.
Wash Tue 12:56

Or it was just an attempt to evade touching anyone with presence in the daytime.
Mal Tue 12:56

Only 1 kill last night is interesting, if we had multiple vamp packs then I'd have expected multiple kills
Tue 12:56

especially given the protector claiming not to have protected anyone
Higgins Tue 12:56

where is my message? -.-
Lenore Tue 12:57

A person on smite list? Seems like they're trying too hard to stay out of spotlight.
Tue 12:57

@Wash
Higgins Tue 12:57

that could be mw
Wash Tue 12:57

Possible.
Lenore Tue 12:57

Fair enough.
Higgins Tue 12:57

mw ate inactive people because that is safest eat
Wash Tue 12:57

Raises the question of how Mark intended for the game to ever end.
River Tue 12:57

lenore
Lenore Tue 12:57

'ello.
River Tue 12:57

you think we could do a mistake by lynching Sherperd?
Lenore Tue 12:57

Actually...
Tue 12:58

Possible.
Tue 12:58

His claim has gotten worse. Not something I attribute with evil.
Tue 12:58

I know, too crazy.
Mal Tue 12:59

MW would explain bester, it's a lot more sensible a kill for MW
Tue 12:59

And Kaylee a really unlucky recruit attempt?
Tue 12:59

This is a big game though, with ability refresh, I'd be expecting higher death rates.
Lenore Tue 12:59

Maple kill would indicate VM and coven instead of wolfpack and coven.
Higgins Tue 13:00

i know
River Tue 13:00

the numbers are so big this game
Tue 13:00

like...
Mal Tue 13:00

if we have MW and VM though - where is the second kill from last night? Bester is a shit kill for an evil team
River Tue 13:00

if you put some covies and ONE vamp in this game
Higgins Tue 13:00

i'm saying 273 is happening again
River Tue 13:00

you go bonkers on length
Tue 13:00

295 was long enough
Higgins Tue 13:00

i think we have multi vamps and coven without pm
Mal Tue 13:01

Higgins: context? not everyone played 273
Lenore Tue 13:01

2 VMs, on the other hand, don't account for missing kills. And 2 VMs doing the exact same thing? That's too much coincidence.
River Tue 13:01

do we have any other target besides sheperd?
Mal Tue 13:01

Bester I can accept as a MW kill, but I don't like it as an evil kill, it's a waste
Tue 13:01

And given the player list, everyone would know it was a waste
Higgins Tue 13:02

do we think both of 2 vms can be active?
Moderator Tue 13:02

River votes to lynch Lawrence
River Tue 13:02

moving my vote for the moment
Higgins Tue 13:02

they could missed night action like Inara
Tue 13:02

lul
Mal Tue 13:02

(Also, speaking of player list, as pointed out earlier, I was probably wrong about the hidden zombie player. The recent wlf-* games aren't in the archive so I didn't notice them as a player)
Lenore Tue 13:03

Btw, I don't get the heat Lawrence is getting. He made a mistake not reading back, but isn't he getting too much heat for it?
Higgins Tue 13:04

i don't even know he is getting heat
Wash Tue 13:05

I'd like to say I'm leaning towards Wolves, but only if the Prot is fake.
Jayne Tue 13:05

The only heat Lawrence is getting is for a bad early claim with no new info.
River Tue 13:05

Lenore who would you lynch?
Lenore Tue 13:05

Yeah, and it should have just ended with "read back next time u cuck". I don't see how that diminishes his claim.
Tue 13:06

I frankly wonder...
River Tue 13:06

I think he made some odd statements about inara lying and all odd stuff
Lenore Tue 13:07

People are giving me all kinds of mixed signals. The only fellas I can call village are: River, Inara, Inquisition and Lawrence (seems like a genuine mistake).
Tue 13:07

Well, he definitely didn't read back on yesterday's stuff.
Wash Tue 13:07

Lenore defending the obvious evil, Lawrence.
Lenore Tue 13:07

O B V I O U S
Jayne Tue 13:07

I always believe people with stupid stories like book and I get burned for it. My new policy is if I have to choose between stupid/evil I choose evil
Higgins Tue 13:08

Lawrence is the obvious evil?
Tue 13:08

what are you saying?
Lenore Tue 13:08

Jayne, ask yourself this: Was Lawrence stupid with his claim?
Jayne Tue 13:08

I wish people would not make sarcastic jokes it makes reading very hard when trying to catch up.
Lenore Tue 13:09

I'd also like if you would answer the question.
Tue 13:09

Rather than going on a semi-rant.
Jayne Tue 13:09

Yes I do.
Wash Tue 13:09

D E M O N L A W R D E N C E
Lenore Tue 13:09

Okay, now: Does that make him evil?
Higgins Tue 13:09

there are stupid villager action and stupid fake villager action
Jayne Tue 13:09

No of course not.
Tue 13:10

I do not think Lawrence is evil
Tue 13:10

I was talking about Book.
Lenore Tue 13:10

Okay, so we have that case closed.
Tue 13:10

Now, as for Book, I can't make a strong argument on his claim because he's made himself a complete ass.
Jayne Tue 13:10

with the stupid/evil comment, not Lawrence.
Higgins Tue 13:11

okay, i think we should lynch Book
Lenore Tue 13:11

That said, I don't know what to make of Book. Part of me thinks he's trying to find a way out, but part of me is also wondering how desperate one would have to be as an evil to back pedal on their claim as Book did.
Tue 13:12

And i don't quite think he's hit that mark just yet.
Tue 13:13

I usually smell out bullshit ASAP, but this time I either have a blocked nose, or Book's claim seems like a genuine mistake.
Wash Tue 13:13

This game has clever people. i do not quite believe that someone would back up on a claim in the first place, but it happened.
Lenore Tue 13:14

Hmm...
Jayne Tue 13:14

The reason I mentioned the stupid/evil thing is I am also thinking Book might be telling the truth but Inhave been burned by this kind of story.
Lenore Tue 13:15

Yeah, I hear you.
Tue 13:15

TThe easy way out would be to just lynch him and dig him up.
Jayne Tue 13:16

Down side lose a sus stalker.
Inara Tue 13:16

Twelve votes and only halfway through the day, it could easily have been a "what do I be to lose" play.
Jayne Tue 13:16

upside kill a vamp recruit
Tue 13:17

if we get a dig of he was a recruit of a vamp will it confirm for us there is a vamp?
Lenore Tue 13:17

Inara, 12 votes doesn't make me want to double down on my fake claims when evil. Seems more like a call for desperation.
Inara Tue 13:17

Yes?
Lenore Tue 13:17

Well, true.
Jayne Tue 13:17

and is that the most likely story if he is evil and making up his stupid?
Lenore Tue 13:17

It would be, yes.
Tue 13:17

N1 recruit explains the "forgetting to check", and N2 he has a lit stalk to claim.
Simon Tue 13:18

If not Fam then could be a ghoul. ML would grant a stalk I believe
Jayne Tue 13:18

then I want to lynch him, there is another upside which is game clarity.
Inara Tue 13:18

But he couldn't use it, Simon
Lenore Tue 13:18

If he's ghoul he'd need a load at the start of the game.
Inara Tue 13:18

^
Lenore Tue 13:18

But this isn't ghoul play either.
Simon Tue 13:18

Getting my timings mixed up sorry
Inara Tue 13:19

Np Michael.
Simon Tue 13:19

Back to lunch
Mal Tue 13:19

We have enough GDs to dig both Bester and today's lynch, so I'm not too worried about it. Also, with N7 refresh if we have revivers (boo hiss, magic) then they're going to get at least 2 revivals, so we can make use of that if planned well
Lenore Tue 13:19

Hmm...
Tue 13:19

True.
Inara Tue 13:20

Hmm.
Higgins Tue 13:20

hmm
Lenore Tue 13:21

Okay, so we have a scenario worth chasing if he's an evil. We either get a fam stalker, or a cunning ghoul (objectively speaking).
Tue 13:21

What about if he's just a stalker though? What do we learn about the setup?
Tue 13:22

We've had a stalker and 2 GDs claim, which are the only fam roles exposed so far.
Tue 13:22

Which, although I find unlikely (see: Bester ded lol), would make this setup lean towards multiple VMs.
Higgins Tue 13:23

maybe everyone do fam/non fam claim for safety?
Inara Tue 13:23

NON-FAM.
Lenore Tue 13:23

What's the use?
Inara Tue 13:23

¬_¬
Higgins Tue 13:23

i really think we have vamp
Lenore Tue 13:23

VM will just recruit into fam roles if we do it and there turns out to be vamps.
Higgins Tue 13:25

we can keep an eyes on fam role and everyone who visit fam role, they can change to another fam role so maybe we can notice something different
Lenore Tue 13:27

That leaves the non-fam roles without any protection/harlots on them. And if it turns out that there are no vamps and your bog-standard wolves with coven, we've just given them a whole list of people to look into for free kills.
Tue 13:27

It's not bad, but today might not be ideal.
Tue 13:28

Lynching Book and finding his role tomorrow should give us some level of clarity setup-wise, regardless of the check and we might have a better footing with possibly claiming fam/non-fam.
Nandi Tue 13:29

So, sorry for being late. I'll catch up with the chat.
Jayne Tue 13:29

I do not understand fam/non-fam.
Lenore Tue 13:29

Fam roles = GD/Militia/Stalker.
Tue 13:30

These roles are the village roles that also are found in vamp basement when villagers aree recruited by a VM.
Tue 13:30

Non-fam refers to everything else.
Jayne Tue 13:31

So claiming would be a way to limit who VM can recruit?
Inara Tue 13:31

You could almost say Jayne isn't FAMILIAR with the concept.
Tue 13:32

I'll see myself out.
Higgins Tue 13:32

all claim so far tell us that we likely have vamp and coven, 3 fam roles, anti coven sub-faction and 1 wc
Lenore Tue 13:33

It does limit the VM to recruit into the fam pool, but it also exposes people to wolves (if there are any). And right now I'm not convinced whatsoever that we have multiple VMs.
Jayne Tue 13:33

I am sorry, I have never been in a game that discussed fam/non-fan claiming so trying to follow why we would or would not do that.
Tue 13:33

Thanks Lenore.
Lenore Tue 13:34

Well, it's an... interesting method.
Tue 13:34

No worries.
Tue 13:36

I've said it multiple times, the night kills don't agree with what I'm thinking of the evil factions' setup being. Inquisition implies coven, failed ML recruit implies VM/wolfpack. Wolfpack more because Kaylee died with an N1 recruit failure, and the night kill on Bester seems more of a BH sniffing. I refuse to believe that multiple VMs ALL decided to kill for 2 NIGHTS in a row, and decided to recruit instead. Maple explains the Bester kill, but then what the hell are the VMs doing in that scenario?
Simon Tue 13:39

VMs hit night immune role?
River Tue 13:39

yis
Lenore Tue 13:39

That's a 1/29 chance if it's 2 VMs. 1/28 if there's are 3.
Tue 13:39

there's 3*
Higgins Tue 13:39

they hit each other
Lenore Tue 13:39

...
Higgins Tue 13:40

they missed night action like Inara
Simon Tue 13:40

So you're saying there's a chance?
Lenore Tue 13:40

Are we looking for the most slim chances?
Tue 13:40

Because then yes, 2 to 3 VMs hit each other.
Simon Tue 13:40

No I'm just failing to meme
Higgins Tue 13:41

i'm believing we have vamps
Lenore Tue 13:41

Any basis to it?
Tue 13:42

What makes you believe in the possibility? Because I don't see it.
Tue 13:43

Oh, and Simon. I heard you had a failed recruit somewhere in the chat before it delved into a bit more of shitposting.
Simon Tue 13:43

I REALLY hate to say it but does the lack of kills increase the chance of a demon or some other crazy slow build role?
Lenore Tue 13:43

Demons? Please don't go there. That's bollocks. (hhave to be absolutely blunt)
Simon Tue 13:43

Yes N1 I had no positive recruit message back in the morning
Lenore Tue 13:43

Well, who was the fella?
Simon Tue 13:44

Don't necessarily want to out someone right now
Tue 13:44

They may be village
Lenore Tue 13:44

You do realise that if you can't recruit someone, that's most likely an evil, right?
Simon Tue 13:45

Most likely but not always
Lenore Tue 13:45

Well, problem with your faction is that you guys can't recruit WC users either.
Tue 13:45

Otherwise that would be a 100% evil person right there.
Simon Tue 13:45

I'll say tomorrow okay?
Higgins Tue 13:46

hmm, why do i feel like Lenore is trying to controling the game? :P
Lenore Tue 13:46

I like to be on the frontlines.
Tue 13:47

Simon, fair enough. If you think the fella is a harmless WC village role, that's your call.
Simon Tue 13:47

For clarity. Yes I claim Inq Leader
Lenore Tue 13:47

Well, considering Fess gave the checks you were the only one possible as leader, but okay.
Tue 13:48

Still, I'd say you should probably look into what that person has said all game.
Simon Tue 13:48

Just wanted it to be said with no confusion :)
Lenore Tue 13:48

:thumbsup:
Simon Tue 13:48

I plan to
Lenore Tue 13:49

Cool.
Tue 13:49

Did you recruit last night btw?
Simon Tue 13:49

Successfully
Lenore Tue 13:49

Okay, good.
Higgins Tue 13:49

hmmmmmmmmmm
Lenore Tue 13:50

I'll ask you to do me a favour and try to recruit the fellas you find sus instead of lit people. It'll help in expanding the village circle if they're lit, and will out potential evils if you fail in recruiting but survive (which I think is more likely with a coven presence).
Simon Tue 13:52

I will certainly consider that
Lenore Tue 13:52

Cheers.
Higgins Tue 13:52

am i sus? ^^
Lenore Tue 13:53

You're just weird.
Operative Tue 13:53

Would it be a terrible idea for people to say whether they are wc users?
Lenore Tue 13:53

What do you intend to accomplish?
Operative Tue 13:54

So that inq knows who they can recruit?
Tue 13:54

Also a way to catch people in s lie if they then can't be recruited
Lenore Tue 13:55

Yes, but you're again talking about potentially exposing targets to evil factions. I think it suffers the same issue as the fam/non-fam thing.
Operative Tue 13:55

They don't seem to have much killing power
Tue 13:56

Unless it's an OW continually self-guarding
Lenore Tue 13:56

Omega... not sure what I think of that.
Nandi Tue 13:57

Back, didn't read it all.
Operative Tue 13:57

30 player game. Something has to reduce the numbers
Nandi Tue 13:57

So...
Lenore Tue 13:57

So...
Moderator Tue 13:57

Nandi votes to lynch ShepherdBook
Nandi Tue 13:57

It is Election Day.
Tue 13:58

My vote is on Shepherd.
Higgins Tue 13:58

can demun reduce the numbers?
Nandi Tue 13:58

I also saw that there is an Inquisition, which is great.
Lenore Tue 13:58

That's my cue to get the fuck out of here.
ShepherdBook Tue 13:58

Part of me feels too embarrassed to contribute anymore, but Lenore's argument for wolves and against vampires... well.
River Tue 13:58

I kinda wanna lynch you just for stupid demons
Tue 13:58

Sheperd
ShepherdBook Tue 13:59

The theory is that I am a familiar, which requires vampires.
River Tue 13:59

do you have a "tonight you will check" messag?
Tue 13:59

*message
Tue 13:59

for n1?
Lenore Tue 13:59

Yes Book, which is why your lynch is only worth gathering info at best.
ShepherdBook Tue 13:59

No. Hence the embarrassment after calling Inara out.
River Tue 13:59

more like Simon
Tue 13:59

Inara confirmed it right?
Lenore Tue 13:59

Inara confirmed it.
ShepherdBook Tue 14:00

What I called out is that she had not protected anyone last night.
River Tue 14:00

meeeeeeh I dont wanna lynch sheperd
Tue 14:00

:///
ShepherdBook Tue 14:00

When it turns out I hadn't stalked anyone N1.
Nandi Tue 14:00

Also, call me crazy, but did we verify Kaylee as a Mason Leader?
River Tue 14:00

yes twice
Operative Tue 14:00

Yeah 2 gd
Lenore Tue 14:00

You're crazy.
Tue 14:00

Welcome to the crazy club.
Nandi Tue 14:01

Oh cool.
Tue 14:02

If Inara is online, can she verify the moderator message that she did protect Kaylee?
Tue 14:02

DON'T COPY AND PASTE.
Lenore Tue 14:02

Why do I smell another CC battle in the air?
Higgins Tue 14:02

Nandi, do you want to drink some beers and get drunk together?
Nandi Tue 14:02

No, I don't plan on CCing anybody.
Tue 14:03

No, I don't frink.
Lenore Tue 14:03

That's right Nandi, stay away from that weird stubble man.
River Tue 14:03

I dont see the point you're going for though
ShepherdBook Tue 14:03

I think it is the same point Lawrence was driving at earlier.
Nandi Tue 14:03

Protectors get a message saying they won't be able to protect XXX the following night.
Tue 14:04

If she's been redirected, then it should reveal who she did protect.
Higgins Tue 14:04

i think she said she did get that message yesterday
River Tue 14:04

I think she did
ShepherdBook Tue 14:04

I don't think she did but I've been wrong before.
Nandi Tue 14:04

AND time for me to go into the archive, I am really crazy.
Lenore Tue 14:04

NAND time maybe? :p
ShepherdBook Tue 14:05

I remember people asking her several times and I thought it was strange that that wasn't answered.
Lenore Tue 14:06

Or people were just asking even after it was answered.
Tue 14:06

:p
Tue 14:07

Pretty sure she'd have mentioned a redirect had there been one.
Higgins Tue 14:07

it was answered but there were too many shitposting yesterday :P
Moderator Tue 14:08

Tracey votes to lynch ShepherdBook
Inara Tue 14:09

Yes, Nandi.
Nandi Tue 14:09

I did Ctrl-F but I saw nothing direct.
Tracey Tue 14:09

had a good read, i think this is probably the right move
Nandi Tue 14:09

Okay, then it must've been a failed recruit.
Tue 14:09

Tracey finally speaks!
Higgins Tue 14:10

who is Tracey
Tracey Tue 14:10

I was talking earlier today but yes ive been a little busy
Lenore Tue 14:10

*takes a backseat*
Tue 14:10

You guys continue yakking, I'll see how this one goes.
Operative Tue 14:11

Higgins what are you mate?
Tue 14:11

You said you had info that could help book earlier and I want to know what it is
Nandi Tue 14:11

Somebody who showed up for a while at the end of the day yesterday.
Tue 14:12

I'm talking about Tracey.
Inara Tue 14:12

/r/shittyanimalfacts The term "Yakking" originates from when yaks talked incessantly, before breeders selectively bred the ability to speak out of them.
Higgins Tue 14:13

https://media.giphy.com/media/l41obiiUf0n42dvLG/giphy.gif
Operative Tue 14:13

You gonna answer Higgins?
ShepherdBook Tue 14:13

Inara, I still haven't seen confirmation of whether you weren't able to protect Kaylee N2.
Tracey Tue 14:14

Nandi if you read the first thing said today I already explained that
Inara Tue 14:14

Brook, she was dead?
Tracey Tue 14:14

I was semi active yesterday morning also, wasnt just the only thing i said. I didn't have much to contribute is all
Inara Tue 14:15

But also, I didn't actually check in to this game last night, so idk?
ShepherdBook Tue 14:15

Inara, the question is whether you can confirm a swap took place I think. You should be able to read it back to previous nights like I did just now. I know I'm objectively the best lynch for today but I'm just going to park this here in the meantime.
Moderator Tue 14:15

ShepherdBook votes to lynch Inara
DrCaron Tue 14:15

is today a shitpost extravaganza again?
ShepherdBook Tue 14:16

It is from Higgins' perspective.
Inara Tue 14:16

Shepherd, I confirmed that.
Nandi Tue 14:16

Oh, sorry. I forget easily.
Lenore Tue 14:16

You didn't bother to read, did you Doc?
ShepherdBook Tue 14:16

Fortunately he only seems to have one gif
DrCaron Tue 14:16

like yesterday's 30 pages on nothing worth discussing?
Tue 14:16

not yet
Inara Tue 14:16

You should.
DrCaron Tue 14:16

let me go read
Tue 14:17

::trudges away::
Lenore Tue 14:17

Better to read before going into some unnecessary lament. :p
ShepherdBook Tue 14:17

Don't bother. Lynch me and the GD will give you the info tomorrow.
Nandi Tue 14:17

I did, but I have the brain of a bird.
Tracey Tue 14:17

which GD though, the original one or the copycat one? I'm excited to find out.
Moderator Tue 14:17

DrCaron votes to lynch Lenore
DrCaron Tue 14:17

asv
Lenore Tue 14:17

:p
Inara Tue 14:17

:\
Nandi Tue 14:17

Well, some birds are notorious for being good at puzzles.
ShepherdBook Tue 14:17

It makes sense for Lawrence to state his report first, doesn't it?
Nandi Tue 14:18

https://youtu.be/cbSu2PXOTOc
Lenore Tue 14:18

ShepherdBook Tue 14:15 Inara, the question is whether you can confirm a swap took place I think. You should be able to read it back to previous nights like I did just now. I know I'm objectively the best lynch for today but I'm just going to park this here in the meantime. <=== Swap kill indicates a witch kill rather than a wolf/vamp kill.
Tue 14:18

Which is, again, a matter of amateur play if we're taking that into consideration.
Tracey Tue 14:18

Yes if I was River I would be letting Lawrence go first tomorrow
Nandi Tue 14:18

In that case, why so early?
Inara Tue 14:18

Also, swaps happen last.
Nandi Tue 14:18

Ah nevermind.
Inara Tue 14:18

So I still wouldn't know, afaik.
ShepherdBook Tue 14:19

I think that is the most sensible thing that can be said about it at this time.
Lenore Tue 14:19

Book, your idea of a kill+swap is either suggesting a witch kill, or a co-incidental co-ordination of 2 different factions.
Inara Tue 14:19

Anyway, just so everyone is clear: Yes, I confirm that I protected Kaylee. Yes, I would have been unable to protect her N2. No, I don't see any signs of an identity swap.
Lenore Tue 14:20

Tell me how do you find that sensible.
Inara Tue 14:20

And also super coincidental that it happened on the ML.
Lenore Tue 14:21

This game doesn't run on stupid co-incidences like that. Yeah I said it. It's stupid. Blunt is the best way to go about this.
Inara Tue 14:21

<insert Sherlock image here>
Lenore Tue 14:21

https://media.giphy.com/media/yr6mgdF0b9arC/giphy.gif
Higgins Tue 14:22

do you think Lawrence was recruited by vamp and just confirmed River to gain trust?
Inara Tue 14:22

No, wrong one.
Lenore Tue 14:22

I'll post the other one after a while.
Tue 14:22

Higgins Tue 14:22 do you think Lawrence was recruited by vamp and just confirmed River to gain trust? <=== What makes you think he's even evil?
Inara Tue 14:23

Higgins, considered that but I don't think we can prove it so I filled it away under "tinfoil hat theories"
Higgins Tue 14:23

i think there could be multi vamp sooooooo
Nandi Tue 14:23

So let me suggest a crazy coincidence: what if the Witch accidentally killed?
Inara Tue 14:23

Everyone is evil until proven otherwise.
Lenore Tue 14:23

ACCIDENTS.
Higgins Tue 14:23

https://media1.tenor.com/images/1742d2899ac2d797d88bd70a8e048587/tenor.gif
Nandi Tue 14:23

And (s)he just happens to kill the Mason.
Lenore Tue 14:24

I'd like to die tonight.
Nandi Tue 14:24

Actually, fair point.
Tue 14:24

Anyway, facts are facts.
Lenore Tue 14:24

I think I'll lose my own IQ at this rate.
Nandi Tue 14:24

Kaylee was a ML who died despite being protected.
Lenore Tue 14:24

FAILED RECRUIT YOU CRAZY TWAT!
Nandi Tue 14:24

Maybe at the end of the game, we can figure out...
Tue 14:24

Yeah.
Tue 14:24

Failed recruit.
Lenore Tue 14:25

<=== Leaves the cray cray club
Nandi Tue 14:25

Bye Lenore.
Tue 14:25

MEMBERS: 1
Tue 14:26

Off topic, but I think I'm gonna aim to get the World Record for highest amount of messages in their Reddit Inbox.
Inara Tue 14:26

Guys, what if a militia fell asleep at their desk N1 and accidentally hit the shoot button and then they got redirected to Kaylee and that's why they never claimed?. .
Nandi Tue 14:26

Militia still has to deal with the Protector...
Tue 14:27

don't they
Lenore Tue 14:27

guise wat if all vamps kill one ml hurr hurr
Nandi Tue 14:27

?
Inara Tue 14:27

No.
Simon Tue 14:27

What if Kaylee saw the future of this chat and asked to be emitted overnight?
Inara Tue 14:27

Guns > Witchcraft
Lenore Tue 14:27

I'd love to have been in her position.
Tue 14:27

@Simon
Operative Tue 14:28

It has happened when more than one evil hit the same target
Higgins Tue 14:28

do you want to hear some crazy theory?
Inara Tue 14:28

No.
Lenore Tue 14:28

Oh god...
Simon Tue 14:28

No.
Nandi Tue 14:28

Not really,
Operative Tue 14:28

Higgins where's this info you promised
Wash Tue 14:28

yes
Inara Tue 14:28

Box.
Nandi Tue 14:28

DANG IT WASH.
Moderator Tue 14:28

DrCaron votes to lynch ShepherdBook
Lenore Tue 14:28

wash i shitpost wif u got it
Nandi Tue 14:28

WASH YOURSELF.
Tue 14:28

Wash your words, Wash.
Lenore Tue 14:29

if u dont gib pizza to mario i smack u on ur left buttcheek
Tue 14:29

got it wash?
Nandi Tue 14:29

Anyway, at the beginning of the game, limited use roles get refilled by the end of the week.
Tue 14:29

Do leaders have this privilege, or just Witches and Shaman?
Wash Tue 14:29

mario is the fifth chaos god
Nandi Tue 14:30

Mario dies in Infinity War.
Wash Tue 14:30

"limited use roles get refilled by the end of the week" UNTRUE LIES
Higgins Tue 14:30

Here is some crazy theory: Inara is evil, she knew Kaylee was ml according to d1 chat so she killed Kaylee and claimed that she proted Kaylee to gained trust
Wash Tue 14:30

It is at the discretion of mod alone.
Nandi Tue 14:30

Crazy is the best way to describe the theory.
Lenore Tue 14:30

I'm not hanging on some expectation of a role recharge.
Wash Tue 14:30

Implies Wolves.
Simon Tue 14:31

Mod confirmed I will get 1 further recruit
Nandi Tue 14:31

Ah, that's good.
Lenore Tue 14:31

Doesn't sound like a recharge. More like scaling since we have a large player list.
Tue 14:31

But all gucci.
Tue 14:31

wash u gucci or nah
Wash Tue 14:31

no
Higgins Tue 14:31

My role say nothing
Lenore Tue 14:31

fuk u twat
Inara Tue 14:31

Completely unrelated: I think Kaylee might have tried to recruit MrU.
Wash Tue 14:31

if i was it would be obvious
Inara Tue 14:32

Evidence: none.
Nandi Tue 14:32

I really want a Smash Bros. themed game.
Tue 14:32

And everyone to die except Kirby.
Wash Tue 14:32

Waluigi.
Lenore Tue 14:32

Inara, what makes you think so?
Operative Tue 14:32

Higgins Tue 10:31 i have reason to believe Shepherd
Tue 14:32

Explain higg
Nandi Tue 14:32

Piranha Plant got in before Waluigi.
Higgins Tue 14:32

I'm going to post my favorite gif again
Operative Tue 14:33

Ugh, Book today Higg tomorrow
Lenore Tue 14:33

@Inara @Inara @Inara
Inara Tue 14:33

Lenore, more a "if I was gonna recruit N1 in a game this size I'd want to do it based on /something/" and Kaylee and MrU exchanged words D1.
Lenore Tue 14:33

Hmm...
Tue 14:33

Okay.
Wash Tue 14:33

https://media.giphy.com/media/7isbcNAx367qU/200.gif
Higgins Tue 14:34

Did she even hint that she was ml?
Inara Tue 14:34

Not as far as I'm aware.
Tracey Tue 14:34

Could there be any reason higgins wants to die?
Tue 14:34

because he's acting like it
Lenore Tue 14:34

Banshee, or just an unwelcome troll.
Wash Tue 14:34

Or both.
Lenore Tue 14:35

^
Tracey Tue 14:35

I think we can safely ignore him
Lenore Tue 14:36

I'm kinda hungry. I'll go get something to eat.
Simon Tue 14:36

Mw or milita can kill them tonight
Lenore Tue 14:37

wash behave urself u cuck
Wash Tue 14:37

what the fuck did i do wrong this time
Tue 14:37

gods sake
Nandi Tue 14:37

You wanted to hear a crazy theory.
Simon Tue 14:38

Higg is evil and is using the village's reluctance to lynch a banshee to survive?
DrCaron Tue 14:39

I'm waiting on an OW to slaughter a ton of people
Nandi Tue 14:40

Everyone is evil excrpt for Kaylee.
Tue 14:40

Okay, I'm tired.
Tue 14:41

I'll still be reading the chat.
Wash Tue 14:41

Alright, hear me out.
Tue 14:41

You're going to want to really think here.
Tue 14:41

I know it may sound outrageous.
Tue 14:41

But you have to consider it objectively.
Tue 14:41

Right, get ready.
Tue 14:41

It's coming any second now.
Tue 14:41

I'm just trying to come up with it.
Tue 14:41

Nice weather, huh?
Nandi Tue 14:42

Hey, I've been in a game where a Shapeshifter shifted into a Familiar, and neither died.
Wash Tue 14:42

Be prepared.
Tue 14:42

Here we go.
Inara Tue 14:42

Wash is obviously evil because all he does is disrupt the conversation.
Wash Tue 14:42

Mm, yes.
Inara Tue 14:42

Higgins too.
Tue 14:42

Let's just kill them both.
Wash Tue 14:42

You must have missed the bits where I said shit.
Tue 14:42

People have a tendency to do that when they just dislike me.
Nandi Tue 14:42

Nandi votes to put Wash on trial
Wash Tue 14:43

Far better when they outright ignore my constructive points earlier on in the day.
Inara Tue 14:43

Maybe we just forget them when they get overshadowed by the nonsense you so out?
Tue 14:44

Spout*
Higgins Tue 14:44

What did we forget?
Wash Tue 14:44

Perhaps you should pay attention to the nonsense so you actually get a character study.
Inara Tue 14:44

Life's too short for that.
Higgins Tue 14:45

<Lenore> Tue 14:36 I'm kinda hungry. I'll go get something to eat.
Wash Tue 14:45

I know more than I could ever hope to pretend to.
Higgins Tue 14:45

Lenore, you aren't going to eat me, right?
Operative Tue 14:45

All this time I've been thinking his name was walsh and wash was a meme. I was wrong and everyone isn't as funny as I thought they were
Mal Tue 14:45

Wash "limited use roles get refilled by the end of the week" UNTRUE LIES It is at the discretion of mod alone. - Read your pre-game email, we're getting ability refreshes sunday nights in this game.
Wash Tue 14:46

Is that so?
Tue 14:46

Mark playing the long-con with a month-long game.
Higgins Tue 14:47

Hmm, interesting, refresh
Tue 14:47

I believe this is another 273 <(")
Operative Tue 14:47

Does the recharge count for recruiting? So Simon could get a large squad?
Mal Tue 14:47

My understanding is that the ability refresh grants an extra recruit to all recruiters (IncludingVamp and VM)
Wash Tue 14:47

Everyone uses their abilities Saturday and the game melts down.
Operative Tue 14:48

Yes lots of death on Saturday probably
Higgins Tue 14:48

Everyone visit me
Operative Tue 14:48

Self prot OW Higg?
Higgins Tue 14:48

I will throw a party
Wash Tue 14:49

Bachelor role confirmed?
Higgins Tue 14:49

It's a big big party
Mal Tue 14:49

(I might be wrong about regular Vamp)
Higgins Tue 14:50

If we have vamp, that must be vm
Tue 14:50

Multi vm is likely
Jayne Tue 14:51

Operative: you were trying to make some point about WC users claiming. This seems like a bad idea to me since WC use or not is a way to confirm some Intel roles isn't it?
Nandi Tue 14:51

Watch the Vampire not kill so they can get up to 10 Familiars.
Jayne Tue 14:52

And if you think it is a good idea Operative you mind telling me if you personally are WC or not?
Higgins Tue 14:54

So only one time ability will be recharged
Nandi Tue 14:55

I have a theory.
Tue 14:55

Actually, I'm not gonna share it.
Jayne Tue 14:56

Shit posting in this game is overwhelming
Nandi Tue 14:56

I'm serious this time.
Higgins Tue 14:56

How serious are you?
Nandi Tue 14:57

Serious enough to not share my theory.
Operative Tue 14:58

Jayne we already decides against that idea
Higgins Tue 14:58

How serious is your theory?
Nandi Tue 14:58

Jayne wants to know if you're WC or not.
Operative Tue 14:58

We already established that narrows down kill targets for evils and we shouldn't do it
Tue 14:59

So I'm not going to say
Wash Tue 15:00

Want to hear MY THEORY?
Nandi Tue 15:00

I personally wanted to hear Jayne's theory.
Higgins Tue 15:00

How crazy is it?
Wash Tue 15:00

Utterly grounded in reality.
Nandi Tue 15:00

So...
Tue 15:00

Satire?
Wash Tue 15:00

I wish.
Tue 15:01

Consider what I believe to be the current crux: https://i.imgur.com/ksQ1zk5.png
Tue 15:01

Image used because Mark hates paragraphs and I'll report him to the police for it.
Nandi Tue 15:02

Nice way to format the picture, by the way.
Tue 15:04

I doubt there are wolves, especially given the Mason Leader could've performed a failed recruit.
Wash Tue 15:04

See 1(e) for that.
Nandi Tue 15:06

Wouldn't the same thing apply to 1(d) if the Prot is real?
Tue 15:06

Wolves just forgetting to kill?
Wash Tue 15:06

Nothing that precludes that from being the case.
Mal Tue 15:07

Wash: Can you paste that as text please for people looking back later.
Tue 15:08

Posting text as an image is just BS.,
Nandi Tue 15:08

I'll do it, Wash.
Tue 15:08

1. The Coven are in the game. Either:
Tue 15:09

a) Vampire(s) exist to provide actual killing in the game.
Tue 15:09

b) The setup relies on lots of lynching, Maple kills, and Militia shots.
Tue 15:09

c) The Coven themselves have significant killing power.
Tue 15:10

d) The Prot is fake and we have Wolves for consistent killing.
Tue 15:10

e) The Prot is real, and the Wolves are too, but they forgot how to kill people.
Tue 15:10

2. The Coven are not in the game. Either:
Tue 15:11

a) The Inquisition exists to deliberately divide the village.
Tue 15:11

b) The Inquisition exists to counter witch-craft heavy evils not including the Coven.
Tue 15:12

This may be Undead, Wolves with many Shapeshifters, or DEMONLORD OH GOD DEMONSWHYDEMONSAREN'TREALTHEYNEVERWEREREALHELPMEI'MDYINGOVERHEREAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Tue 15:12

c) The Inquisition is fake.
Tue 15:13

d) The Inquisition exists to confirm numerous witchcraft-using village roles.
Tue 15:14

(The 2(b) doesn't really work on the web client.)
Wash Tue 15:14

Give me line breaks or give me DEATH, Mark.
DrCaron Tue 15:15

Coven, UD, Wolves with an OW for extra killing power
River Tue 15:15

I still kinda don't get the purpose of this all
Tue 15:15

what is this about?
DrCaron Tue 15:15

speculation
Nandi Tue 15:15

It's about the possibilities the gamw could be designed for.
Mal Tue 15:16

DrCaron: Speculation of "extra killing power" when we've had 2 nights of 1 kill only?
River Tue 15:16

It's not a storm setup
Tue 15:16

So..
Nandi Tue 15:16

If XXX is real, then YYY should be the case.
DrCaron Tue 15:16

it only takes 1 night with a lucky OW to wreck a town
Tue 15:17

wtf do i know? we're all just guessing at setups
Tue 15:17

so i'm giving my input
Mal Tue 15:18

Are you guessing at a "possible 30-man" or a "30 man that makes sense with what we've seen so far?"
River Tue 15:19

I think this is the wrong debate :/ for some odd gut feeling I don't wanna lynch Sheperd ://
Wash Tue 15:19

Clearly the former.
DrCaron Tue 15:19

VM recruiting n1 and a OW that guards n1 seems not atypical
Tue 15:20

coven do not kill like that and UD only can with a load ghoul
Wash Tue 15:20

And we must wonder why there was again only one kill last night, or why there was a kill at all if we are to follow your line of thinking.
DrCaron Tue 15:21

if the people who can non-lethal visit do not have targets of interest then it stands to reason that a single person will not have several visitors so IF the kill was an OW they would not have a stack of bodies associated with it
Tue 15:21

it was just a wild assed guess
Tue 15:22

i am not pushing this idea but since I am being pressed about it I will continue to discuss its possibility
Tue 15:22

it was just another idea
Fanty Tue 15:27

Good god, you guys talk a lot
DrCaron Tue 15:27

right
Tue 15:27

do not say you didn't read back
Tue 15:27

the people have pitchforks and torches
Fanty Tue 15:29

Hahaha, I'm afraid I have a day job, I can't read back just yet
Tue 15:29

Why don't we all just claim and get it out in the open yeah?
Operative Tue 15:29

You first
Mal Tue 15:31

Fanty: Claim away if you want, some others have
Jayne Tue 15:40

OMG I just left for a minute and WTF pages, I am against posting text in images because ctrl-f. I missed we decided against your idea Operative - I just want to pressure you to claim WC or not because it was your idea.
Tue 15:41

So similar to your reply to fanty, I am saying you first.
Lenore Tue 15:44

ayyy person suggest claim but no claim he evil lol
Tue 15:45

https://i.imgur.com/ksQ1zk5.png
Jayne Tue 15:46

So also people who suggest claim wc/no wc and don't say themselves must also be evil. (looking at Operative)
Lenore Tue 15:46

2 (a) and 2 (b) seem like the same point. Confirming village WC roles doesn't undermine the fact that the Inq need them eliminated.
Tue 15:47

Hence, village division.
Tue 15:48

2 (b) contradicts with 1 (d) since non-coven evil WC roles imply SSes, banshees and necros.
Tue 15:48

And if SSes are present, there's a wolfpack.
Tue 15:48

(ignoring that these are separated by the scenarios where coven is present and isn't)
Wash Tue 15:48

2(b) contradicts with 1(d) because they're in different scenarios u fkn idiot
Lenore Tue 15:49

ignoring u fukin twat
Jayne Tue 15:50

This game needs a blogger to post updates for the people with a life.
Lenore Tue 15:50

Here's a theory of co-incidence (this village loves co-incidence): Wolves tried to kill Kaylee but fail due to protection, Kaylee dies recruiting a wolf anyways.
Operative Tue 15:50

Jayne we established it was a bad idea. Why would I do it now? Even I don't think it's a good idea anymore
Wash Tue 15:51

It also specifically doesn't contradict in the way you mean because "the inq exists to counter wc roles" and "the wolves might exist" aren't contradictory.
Lenore Tue 15:51

Fair.
Tue 15:51

tell me wat u think about my coincidence fkn welsh
Tue 15:51

hurr hurr
Mal Tue 15:51

Can we be more civil and less memey ?
Jayne Tue 15:52

I guess having a bad idea doesn't make you necessarily evil operative, so okay.
Operative Tue 15:52

Lol ok Jayne
Lenore Tue 15:52

Jayne Tue 15:52 I guess having a bad idea doesn't make you necessarily evil operative, so okay. <=== You. I like you.
Tue 15:54

Oh, and regarding the D3 claim stuff, I'm not on board with it. (if it wasn't obvious at this point)
Tue 15:55

Doesn't look like it'll happen though, so ehh...
Wash Tue 15:55

Next he'll ask you if you are on board with a D4 claim.
Lenore Tue 15:55

no u tell me bout my coincidence thory furst
Wash Tue 15:55

In any other game it would be the first day of the midgame.
Tue 15:56

I agree with the theory because I had it in mind when writing the scenarios.
Lenore Tue 15:56

Rate the likeliness.
Wash Tue 15:56

But decided to not tackle it specifically and leave it under the "forgot to kill" umbrella.
Tue 15:56

1/30.
Lenore Tue 15:56

Sounds about right.
Tue 15:57

Well, I'll leave it in the tin-foil section for now.
Tue 15:58

The only way I'd see to not lynch Book would be if there were a likeliness of a wolfpack, but that seems like a long shot right now. Lynching him seems like the optimal way to know what ahithole we're in.
Wash Tue 15:58

My money is on it not shedding very much light anyway.
Lenore Tue 15:59

True.
Tue 16:01

I'll add in an updated sus list for now: Zoe, MrU, Fanty, Mingo.
Wash Tue 16:01

You'll never believe my next theory.
Lenore Tue 16:02

Try me.
Wash Tue 16:02

Buckle up hombre.
Lenore Tue 16:02

*buckles up*
Wash Tue 16:02

Lawrence and River. Next to each other on the player list. GD claims.
Tue 16:02

Simon and Fess. Next to each other on the player list. Inquisition.
Tue 16:02

See where this is going?
Lenore Tue 16:03

Aye.
Wash Tue 16:03

Well, I don't, so you know more than me about the theory.
Tue 16:03

Operative is in the middle of those two pairs.
Operative Tue 16:04

Ooooooo
Lenore Tue 16:04

They're next to each other. Mark is conspiring by assigning roles to identities beside each other.
Wash Tue 16:04

Operative is the wrench in it on a local scale. So the crazier part of the theory.
Operative Tue 16:04

So I'm an inq gd hybrid
Lenore Tue 16:04

Illuminati confirmed. Next thing you know, Book and someone above/below him turn out to be the 2 stalker claims.
Wash Tue 16:05

Get a claim from Zoe and see that I'm right.
Tracey Tue 16:05

Yo Zoe, we need you to confirm the theory of the century
Jayne Tue 16:05

I feel so sorry for people reading this bullshit trying to figure out what is really going on today.
Tracey Tue 16:05

waddup
Wash Tue 16:05

I don't find this an unreasonable topic of discussion. Coincidental.
Tracey Tue 16:06

coincidences cant happen in this game, you know that
Lenore Tue 16:06

Co-incidence are a cancer to society.
Tue 16:06

is*
Tue 16:06

stop playing coincidences cucks
Wash Tue 16:08

So we know Operative is important somehow, right? At the start of the game, there were 16 people above him, and 13 below. Key number? 3.
Tue 16:08

He is related somehow to the Inquisition and to GDs. So here's the absolute kicker.
Lenore Tue 16:09

Genuinely, it'll be appreciated if people can stop treating co-incidences as something worth a discussion point. I don't claim that a co-incidence never happens, but to actually account for every co-incidence possible only makes the process too convoluted to follow through.
Wash Tue 16:09

He is a Grand Vizier, the third role in the H2P list, a witchcraft role, and something with a similar initialism to GD.
Lenore Tue 16:10

Keep things simple and you'll be just fine.
River Tue 16:10

wait
Tue 16:10

I skipped some shit
Tue 16:10

why did the GV claim?
Wash Tue 16:10

I'm just THAT convincing, guys.
Lenore Tue 16:10

There is no GV claim. Wash is on max tin-foil power.
River Tue 16:11

This game is aweful
Tue 16:11

I really don't see the point in the last x hours of discussion
Wash Tue 16:11

We all want to keep the steam going but know that there is nothing to talk about.
River Tue 16:11

I skipped everything since mid day
Tue 16:12

so if there's any info in there, tell me now
Wash Tue 16:12

It is all theories.
Stitch Tue 16:13

Hello
Operative Tue 16:14

Can't wait to die tonight because some evil only reads the end and things I'm gv
Stitch Tue 16:14

Wash is illuminati confirmed
Operative Tue 16:14

Thinks
Stitch Tue 16:15

Anyway what's happening to shepherd
Niska Tue 16:17

hi, did not read will just vote with everyone else
Moderator Tue 16:17

Niska votes to lynch ShepherdBook
Wash Tue 16:18

I like your style.
JubalEarly Tue 16:21

I'm fine with Shepherd lynch but looks like he has enough votes
Moderator Tue 16:21

JubalEarly votes to lynch Patience
JubalEarly Tue 16:22

Fam seems more likely than mixed up stalker but I guess we'll find out
Niska Tue 16:22

did shepherd do sth wrong?
JubalEarly Tue 16:22

Well he claimed stalker today
Tue 16:22

said Inara didn't visit anyone
Tue 16:22

which she confirmed
Tue 16:23

but then he said n1 Simon didn't visit
Tue 16:23

but Simon claimed inquisitor and did visit. Inq leader also confirmed
Tue 16:23

leader is Fess or Fanty or something? I forgot
Tue 16:23

Also Simon said Mr.U and someone else weren't wc users and they confirmed
Tue 16:24

sorry for incomplete info there, just going off of memory
Tue 16:24

Oh
Tue 16:24

but then Shepherd claimed he actually didn't stalk anyone N1
Tue 16:24

and he just thought he stalked Simon
Tue 16:24

which seems like a weird mistake (personal opinion and I think popular opinion as well)
Tue 16:25

Vamp familiar would explain why he got a correct stalk last night but not n1
Tue 16:25

if he were recruited N1 and had his first check last night
Niska Tue 16:25

ok, thx
JubalEarly Tue 16:25

np
Tue 16:26

personally I'm still mixed up about the Bester kill
Tue 16:26

just seems odd
Tue 16:27

if he turns out to be a PR maybe there are wolves and they sniffed him?
Tue 16:27

but then the number of kills is concerning if there were wolves cause what's the vamp doing
Tue 16:27

maybe recruited twice already
Tue 16:28

Vamp isn't necessarily in game but it feels like it imo
Tue 16:29

Also theorizing is ok-ish if there is nothing to talk about but I don't know if people really consider how difficult that makes it for someone who is only able to check the game later in the day
Tue 16:31

Also if Wolfpack exists and is relatively small (4-5), I think it is possible they only had 1-2 wolves actually able to kill and that could potentially explain no other deaths N1
Tue 16:31

as occasionally people will miss n1
Tue 16:31

I don't think that's entirely unreasonable to consider
Tue 16:31

but we'll be able to get a better idea as the game continues (hopefully)
Tue 16:36

why everyone leave when I show up though -_-
Tue 16:36

won't be able to be around later likely
Moderator Tue 16:46

Stitch votes to lynch ShepherdBook
Stitch Tue 16:52

seems all in order
Inara Tue 16:56

Really?
Tue 16:56

There are many words I could use to summarise today, but "all in order" wouldn't be the three I choose.
Stitch Tue 16:57

for shepherd
Tue 16:57

not for anything wash was involved in
Fanty Tue 17:01

Oh dear Shep
Tue 17:01

Saw I was on a sus list. Any reason or are we just throwing accusations to fill the chat up at the moment?
Stitch Tue 17:02

shep's getting shafted
Inara Tue 17:10

So, you think he's guilty, Stitch?
Fanty Tue 17:24

Poor guy could've just innocently fucked up his actual claim
Tue 17:24

That or he's a... Wolf in sheps clothing
Tue 17:25

Can someone post a gif of the CSI opening credits with the sunglasses guy and the yeeeeaaaaaaahhhh song intro there please
Moderator Tue 17:28

Patience votes to lynch ShepherdBook
Patience Tue 17:29

Haven't read through the whole day yet but this seems to be where the consensus lies
Moderator Tue 17:53

MrUniverse votes to lynch ShepherdBook
MrUniverse Tue 17:55

Not entirely sold on the shepherd lynch. People do make mistakes, but at this point, it is probably safer to lynch and dig to check
Inara Tue 18:04

I want to lynch Fanty for calling it "that yeaaah song".
Stitch Tue 18:07

what claims have happened today?
ShepherdBook Tue 18:08

Too many, and it's my fault.
Tue 18:09

I can only suggest you figure it out by reading for yourself.
Tue 18:12

At least we can hope that evil factions will be put off from digging out what matters from underneath the nonsense.
Tue 18:13

My apologies, everyone.
MrUniverse Tue 18:16

@Inara, that's a sentiment I could get behind
Moderator Tue 18:28

Fanty votes to lynch ShepherdBook
Fanty Tue 18:29

I mean, the die is clearly cast here, at least digging you gives us concrete info and there's a plenty good chance that you messed up your claim because you were making it up
ShepherdBook Tue 18:48

There is.
Tue 18:49

I am not disagreeing with the response.
Tue 18:50

A seer could clear me, but that would be yet an extra role out in the open and I feel I've done enough damage as it is.
Tue 18:50

I am just embarrassed that I did the exact thing I accused Inara of.
Tue 18:50

And lost the village a good role.
Simon Tue 18:59

Shep has enough votes. So I'm switching to Fanty for the crime of calling it "the yeeeeaaaaaaahhhh song"
Moderator Tue 18:59

Simon votes to lynch Fanty
Simon Tue 19:00

Also thanks for being understanding Shep
Tue 19:00

A cautionary tale to us all: read back before you speak.
Moderator Tue 19:01

Inara votes to lynch Fanty
Inara Tue 19:02

What he said ^
Simon Tue 19:04

As many a dad have joked when asked "Who sang it?": "Exactly"
Lawrence Tue 19:05

Ok hello.
Tue 19:06

I know i am not the mos liked around here.
Tue 19:06

Most*
Tue 19:07

But I did make a genuine mistake because I am constsntly busy in rl.
Tue 19:08

Will try to make my gd checks early in the morning.
Monty Tue 19:11

You better be.
Niska Tue 19:11

lawrence did you do sth bad, you a bad boy?
Tue 19:15

seems like I am not the only one who has problems with night actions, it is a wide spread problem with inara, shepherd and me also probably countless others. for those that dont know yet, I figured out how to do night actions, you click this 28 thingy at top and then click kill buttons on the side
Monty Tue 19:16

What are you talking about? Pffft.
Niska Tue 19:16

dunno
Tue 19:18

i forget stuff sometimes
ShepherdBook Tue 20:30

I won't be back now until post-game to apologise once more, so I'll just leave you with a "good night and good luck".
Operative Tue 20:32

Oh no, I'm starting to lean toward you being lit but having mad a mistake
Tracey Tue 20:33

Stick around in case there are revives if you are lit
Simon Tue 20:51

Keep an eye on your emails for a revive post GD report
Tue 20:51

Looking forward to cool blue chat
Moderator Tue 20:53

Nandi votes to lynch Monty
Nandi Tue 20:54

In case, but I doubt my vote matters anymore.
Simon Tue 20:56

In case of what?
Tue 20:56

And why Monty?
Nandi Tue 20:57

Well, if people believe Shephard.
Moderator Tue 20:59

It is nearly night time...
Simon Tue 20:59

That's not a full explanation
Lynched Tue 21:00

ShepherdBook was lynched by the village
Moderator Wed 09:00

Wakey, wakey...
Killed Wed 09:00

Lawrence was killed during the night
Killed Wed 09:00

Atherton was killed during the night

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