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Olenna Mon 10:16

so ygritte is village what weird behaviour then
Cersei Mon 10:25

well
Mon 10:29

so what nextr
Moderator Mon 10:57

Cersei votes to lynch Mountain
Cersei Mon 10:57

I think we need to kill mountain no matter what
Mon 10:58

he could be the +1 to the oberyn/olenna conflict
Mon 10:58

then we get rid of ygritte
Mon 10:58

then we solve the oberyn/olenna
Olenna Mon 11:15

no need to get rid of yg
Mon 11:15

i think oby today just because we know what he is
Mon 11:16

then if thats a win then bonus
Moderator Mon 11:16

Olenna votes to lynch Oberyn
Cersei Mon 11:20

I don't trust you yet
Mon 11:20

probably never will
Mon 11:20

so kill mountain
Olenna Mon 11:26

thought we got over the fact that I'm the boogyman with 100 different roles
Mon 11:30

it's getting pretty boring now so whatever
Littlefinger Mon 11:52

I stalked mountain who stayed still
Cersei Mon 11:52

I visited mountain and saw you visiting -_-
Littlefinger Mon 11:52

We should lynch oby as that could be the last coven
Cersei Mon 11:53

I think we should lynch the wildcard first
Mon 11:53

we have two sides, Oberyn side and olenna side, both need a +1 to win
Mon 11:53

mountain could be a +1 for either side
Littlefinger Mon 11:54

I was hoping olenna would see mountain again
Cersei Mon 11:54

yeah
Mon 11:54

hoped the same
Mon 11:55

I just don't want to discount oberyn theory of a second wolf
Mon 11:55

and for this olenna would need a +1
Mon 11:55

And oberyn can't be the only coven
Mon 11:56

ygritte claimed she was redirected, but you stalked oberyn
Mon 11:56

So either ygritte is lying or someone else redirected
Littlefinger Mon 11:56

I agree but if mountain is wolf then killing him activates potential bh possibility
Cersei Mon 11:56

but then olenna couln't fake it anymore
Mon 11:56

we lynch mountain and then the verifying process starts again
Littlefinger Mon 11:57

That is a point
Cersei Mon 11:58

If everyone eexcept oberyn tells the truth oberyn can't be the last coven.
Mon 12:04

I don't know why Olenna is so focused on oberyn. He can't be the succu
Mon 12:05

and if Olenna trust ygritte which she should after she checked her, there is someone else around.
Olenna Mon 12:05

because nobody believes me and the last potential guy is right there it's frustrating
Cersei Mon 12:07

Last??? I just pointed out why he can't be the last
Olenna Mon 12:08

I know but either way it ends in two days
Moderator Mon 12:09

Olenna votes to lynch Mountain
Moderator Mon 12:09

Olenna votes to lynch Oberyn
Moderator Mon 12:11

Olenna votes to lynch Mountain
Olenna Mon 12:11

well if we do this and choose who I visit
Mon 12:11

if nobody dies then we kill oby
Mon 12:16

and I will visit you cersei
Mon 12:16

please be village I will give up if you're not
Cersei Mon 12:17

who would be my +1?
Mon 12:18

we have 3 roles at the moment who "can" visit without a person dieing
Olenna Mon 12:18

no idea that's why I would cry
Cersei Mon 12:18

those could be BH +1, or succu, although succu is hard because I think you HAVE to redirect
Mon 12:19

I end my Wolf games faster, trust me -_-
Mon 12:19

It's fucking day 8
Olenna Mon 12:20

well let's end this once and for all tomorrow
Cersei Mon 12:21

I want to play it save, we have a 1/1 conflict in this game, this would mean it could go down to 3, in which case I'm confident I can figure it out if I'm still alive. the only way we can lose is if one of the sides has a plus one
Mon 12:21

and it must almost be the case
Mon 12:22

because oberyn can't be succu and redirect at the same time as he's stalked by LF
Mon 12:22

I'm looking for combos that could work
Mon 12:23

like LF + olenna, but then there would need to be 2 bh's so unlikely.
Mon 12:23

LF + oberyn, no idea how LF would visited
Mon 12:23

So I think one of the sides must have a second person
Mon 12:23

if we kill the second person we can kill both conflicting sides and still win
Mon 12:38

I would agree on Oberyn if Ygritte didn't claim that she was redirected
Olenna Mon 12:42

um okay this might have ruined the game now
Mon 12:42

buut yg is also coven
Moderator Mon 12:42

Olenna votes to lynch Ygritte
Cersei Mon 12:43

give me alcohol
Mon 12:43

lots of it
Olenna Mon 12:43

there was a bug saying she was village so must have got swapped
Mon 12:44

so a bit of a anti climax there...
Cersei Mon 12:45

when did it change?
Olenna Mon 12:45

got pmd by a mod
Cersei Mon 12:46

hmmmm
Mon 12:46

I see why this is gamebreaking :S
Mon 12:47

Honestly if you lie you should get smited, but if you don't lie it kinda ruins the game yeah :S
Mon 12:48

I don't know if mod confirms it here, it's such a huge spoiler, but if he doesn't we have to rely on your words. And I don't want to be super angry at you after the game.
Olenna Mon 12:48

I know they don't like copy pasting mod and yeah I doubt they would appreciate that either
Cersei Mon 12:48

yeah don't
Mon 12:49

hmm, can I still get alcohol?
Olenna Mon 12:49

might as well it's been a mess
Mountain Mon 13:30

Well we're pretty confident that Oberyn is Coven, I think we should lynch him and hope it ends, since we don't know how this bug affects the game. If it doesn't end after lynching Oberyn, we will have Olenna's check on me and be more equipped to deal with this Ygritte thing then.
Mon 13:32

If the game is reporting Ygritte as a villager but she is seeing the chat, it might be a reviver bug and not actually count towards her being Coven. I'm fine with lynching either, but since we don't know the full extent of the bug Oberyn seems like it might end the game quicker.
Moderator Mon 13:35

Olenna votes to lynch Oberyn
Olenna Mon 13:35

fair enough
Moderator Mon 13:37

Mountain votes to lynch Oberyn
Mountain Mon 13:37

If someone has a good argument for lynching Ygritte first though, I'll change it, there might be a circumstance I haven't thought of yet.
Mon 13:39

I'll be back later.
Littlefinger Mon 14:32

Mod would game announce bug surly
Mon 14:33

Otherwise mod would be poisoning the game
Olenna Mon 14:35

releasing it to the game is very need to know
Mon 14:35

its an incident to do with me
Mon 14:37

as you guys dont have to know what i do at night
Mon 14:37

or see
Cersei Mon 14:37

So whats the scenario for ygritte being coven
Mon 14:37

how did that happen
Olenna Mon 14:40

so coven would be oby drogon and yg
Mon 14:41

1 reviver and 1 coven revived her
Cersei Mon 14:41

we could do a list of the graveyard
Mon 14:41

Bronn ehm.. wtf he seems to be vocal in deadchat
Mon 14:42

Hound claimed something?
Mon 14:42

Sansa WOLF
Mon 14:42

Viserays, wolfy a f. But claimed some shit in DC
Mon 14:42

Arya, so cute and brave, was protector and went to the grave. Do I get rime points?
Olenna Mon 14:43

isnt very need to know i meant*
Mon 14:43

wonder if ayra was a wolf or coven
Cersei Mon 14:43

but
Mon 14:44

jamie must have lied for ygritte to be coven
Mon 14:44

we have tooo many sodding coven
Olenna Mon 14:44

i think thats why this game was a secret lol
Cersei Mon 14:44

4 coven? holly hell
Mon 14:44

EVERYONE IS COVEN
Olenna Mon 14:44

just to fuck with us
Cersei Mon 14:45

I still think we should lynch mountain first, then ygritte, then oberyn
Mon 14:45

I don't trust you, and before I lynch any person you want to I want a person lynched I want to
Olenna Mon 14:48

well if I'm lying then I've broke a pretty big rule
Mon 14:50

I'm sure they don't like people claiming to be their prophet
Oberyn Mon 15:00

so Jamie was lying?
Mon 15:00

does that make him wolf or coven?
Moderator Mon 15:05

Oberyn votes to lynch Olenna
Cersei Mon 15:12

can't we just lynch mountian?
Mon 15:13

or ygritte
Olenna Mon 15:22

I can't get behind voting for a non confirmed it has to be oby or yg
Mon 15:23

and I'm going to get 2 from them as usual so if it has to be yg then fine
Ygritte Mon 15:30

As usual? I voted for you exactly once. I was convinced Drogon was the succubus before the revive fiasco.
Cersei Mon 15:35

I just wanna win without any meta mod stuff
Mon 15:36

so I want a reasonable scenario how this whole thing went down and ygritte is coven
Mon 15:36

I don't wanna win because "mod said so"
Olenna Mon 15:46

why does oby not want to kill mountain though he just logs on to vote for me now
Mon 15:46

which raises suspicion to mountain I admit
Ygritte Mon 15:53

I would like to hear a reasonable scenario of how I'm coven, too
Olenna Mon 15:56

well we don't know why that's why it's a bit of a brainfuck
Oberyn Mon 16:19

I think you're just making it up as you go along
Mon 16:20

and what gets me the most is how everyone else just seems to accept it
Mon 16:22

> "Seer" reveals
Cersei Mon 16:22

I dont.
Oberyn Mon 16:22

> "Seer" says she is going to check Hodor
Mon 16:22

> No deaths
Mon 16:23

> Hodor is vampire
Mon 16:23

> No protection roles are left
Mon 16:24

> Vampire must have deliberately not killed
Olenna Mon 16:31

so if I changed my story today I either a) would be suited or b)protecting mountain
Mon 16:31

so why not vote for mountain
Mon 16:32

smited*
Cersei Mon 16:32

Mountain or Ygritte I'm fine with both.
Mon 16:36

still would prefer mountain
Ygritte Mon 16:36

day 11 is going to be interesting
Mon 16:37

but nothing until then will be
Cersei Mon 16:38

why 11?
Ygritte Mon 16:38

that's when it will be down to you, LF, and Olenna
Cersei Mon 16:39

well at the moment this is a no brainer for me
Mon 16:39

I'm getting more and more suspicious of Olenna
Mon 16:40

I don't trust oberyn but it really feels like she adjusts as it goes
Ygritte Mon 16:41

I mean, fine, since it will finally sort out day 11 (yes, I counted), assuming nobody checks out before then
Moderator Mon 16:41

Ygritte votes to lynch Oberyn
Cersei Mon 16:42

So you don't dispute olenna?
Mon 16:42

I'm confused
Ygritte Mon 16:42

I do dispute Olenna, but I'm assuming this game will come down to you, LF, and Olenna, and at that point you'll lynch Olenna and we win
Mon 16:43

so, big picture and all
Cersei Mon 16:43

But I don't wanna kill oberyn
Ygritte Mon 16:43

I would switch to Mountain, but that would just tie the vote
Moderator Mon 16:44

Ygritte votes to lynch Mountain
Cersei Mon 16:45

I mean, as long as olenna and oberyn are alive we have two sides
Mon 16:46

so I assume neither side can win
Mon 16:46

I don't know why ppl. don't want to get rid of the wildcard.
Mon 16:46

we know almost nothing about Mountain, and nobody seems to care.
Mon 16:47

he claimed reviver after a bloodbath, and Olenna checked him DAY ONE
Ygritte Mon 16:47

yeah, i see your point now
Cersei Mon 16:47

I don't even trust olenna
Ygritte Mon 16:47

it could come down to 2v2 if we don't do the lynch order right
Cersei Mon 16:48

exactly my point.
Mon 16:49

there is still a chance LF guessed my check that one night
Mon 16:49

but then well it's down to luck or what ever
Mon 16:50

I just see no proof in olenna
Mon 16:50

all the stuff she said is based in information that was already there or is not verifyable
Olenna Mon 16:50

nobody knew about coven till me
Mon 16:50

and everyone shunned it away
Mon 16:50

now suddenly its a hot topic
Cersei Mon 16:51

you said it 30min before midnight ffs.
Olenna Mon 16:51

yeah i wasnt active the other 2 days either much
Mon 16:51

so when i had the time to say something useful it was then
Cersei Mon 16:51

it's not that it doesn't count, but you have to understand our reaction to it
Mon 16:53

I just see two sides who sit here crying about how evil the other person is, but both of them need an ally to pull this off.
Mon 16:55

if Olenna is BH seh needs a killing wolf, if oberyn is some coven overlord he needs someone else to redircet or ygritte to be his ally and lie about being redirected
Mon 16:55

becsaue we know he didn't leave that night
Mon 16:56

all the stuff here was "checked" by us after the slaugher night
Mon 16:57

there is no way someone was ss'ed of the roles
Mon 16:57

we all checked them already
Mountain Mon 19:14

Well I'd prefer you check me tonight and lynch Oberyn today, since he's almost certainly Coven, but as long as we lynch Oberyn and from we're being told today Ygritte then we should win, even if we do lynch Olenna for some reason. Seems like Olenna could have just said 'Coven' instead of claiming Village and then making up the mod thing if she were lying though, seems to invite too much suspicion to be fake in my mind
Mon 19:16

To me it sounds like there might have been a bug with the Witch revive, but this is purely based on what Olenna has said. It would explain how Ygritte could be verified by Jaime and still be Coven though.
Mon 19:16

Bit shit if it is the case though.
Mon 19:16

That'd be two bugs we've had this game, the double revive and then that revival being classed as a Coven member.
Mon 19:16

But it would explain why Ygritte has been keen to lynch Olenna.
Mon 19:19

Not sure why Cersei is suddenly siding with Oberyn today (but I don't think that's a sign of any lies on her part, just would like to hear why).
Mon 19:20

Like I said, if you guys want to lynch me I get it, but a bug with Ygritte becoming Coven would explain a lot of the weirdness in this game. I still think Oberyn is a better choice to lynch tonight than Ygritte, since we don't know if a bug like that would affect the victory condition or not, there's a chance if we lynch Oberyn today the game will end.
Mon 19:29

We need to be careful that the votes aren't changed today to lynch Olenna by a last-minute change, so it would be a good idea to get the majority vote on whoever we want to lynch most. Obviously I can't vote for myself, so I will leave mine on Oberyn, though if we need a majority on Ygritte I'll change it.
Cersei Mon 19:45

does just noone get my concept why lynching Oberyn is bad? Did I make an error?
Littlefinger Mon 19:45

the only way to prove that olenna is not bh it to remove the one person she wants to protect and then watch her to make sure she checks someone. if that person dies then she is likely to be lonely wolf.
Moderator Mon 19:45

Littlefinger votes to lynch Mountain
Littlefinger Mon 19:45

no i see the logic. was worried at first but just got chance to read the whole day to make sure it was the right thing
Cersei Mon 19:46

I think ppl. just grow weary of this round
Mon 19:46

and get impatient which I can understand ://
Mon 19:47

Is there any chance coven still got a potion?
Mountain Mon 19:47

Well I know I'm not a Coven/wolf Cersei, so it's not a concern for me, but I get it. Like I said though, if you think lynching me will help prove Olenna is telling the truth, go for it, but I would have thought letting her check me tonight and then deciding on it based on what she says about me would make more sense.
Mon 19:47

I think if they had they'd have used it by now.
Cersei Mon 19:48

why you trust her?
Mountain Mon 19:48

Because I know I'm a villager, so with that it's the only scenario that makes sense for me.
Cersei Mon 19:48

Just asking, because I think she did nothing trustworthy so far, and the switch today blows my mind. I've never seen that bug
Mountain Mon 19:49

I don't know if we've ever had the Coven revive a villager before, so I don't know if it's been able to happen before.
Oberyn Mon 19:49

it's almost like she realised her mistake in claiming she was a villager and tried to think of a valid way of backtracking?
Cersei Mon 19:49

but if she did that I think this would have consequences after the game
Mountain Mon 19:49

Yeah, I think the mod would smite her if she'd lied about it.
Olenna Mon 19:50

email the mods and ask if they like people making shit up about them
Cersei Mon 19:50

So you trust her because of mod?
Mon 19:50

if this is how we win, we fucking lost
Mon 19:51

I'm the only one who thinks this is wrong? if noone else does lets lynch ygritte
Mountain Mon 19:51

No, I trust her because her checks have lined up with the only scenarios I can think of to possibly explain the various things that have happened here. Like I said, you guys don't know if I'm Coven or not, but I know my role, so it makes more sense for me.
Mon 19:52

Which is why I get why you guys might want to lynch me.
Cersei Mon 19:52

how did Ygritte become Coven?
Mountain Mon 19:53

If Olenna is telling the truth, my guess is that there's some sort of bug where if a Witch revives someone they are classed as Coven. It's just a guess based on what Olenna has said though.
Olenna Mon 19:53

Honestly i think thats a bit of a fuck up of the game
Mountain Mon 19:53

It's obviously not by design, since it would be in the rules.
Cersei Mon 19:53

I understand you guys and grils
Mountain Mon 19:53

But since Olenna hasn't been smited and it explains a lot from my point of view, I'm inclined to believe that's what has happened, shitty as it is.
Cersei Mon 19:53

but it feels so bad o end this game on a bug
Mountain Mon 19:54

Yeah, though on the other hand the bug has only prolonged the game, since we would have lynched Oberyn by now if it hadn't happened, since Yara wouldn't have been revived.
Mon 19:55

My guess is Ygritte is still a Reviver but on the Coven team, which explains so much of why we can't figure out what happened.
Mon 19:55

Again though, you guys have no confirmation of my role though, so it's less clear-cut for you.
Cersei Mon 19:55

I could also live with balance, but as I said ppl. seem to get sick of it
Mon 19:56

and we wait for mod or what ever.
Moderator Mon 19:56

To make an unintended... *ahem*, 'feature' known. If a witch revives a non-coven member, they are added to the coven.
Mountain Mon 19:56

That was uncanny.
Moderator Mon 19:56

but their role is unaffected
Mountain Mon 19:57

Shitty, but I think that confirms Olenna though, there's no way she'd know that otherwise.
Cersei Mon 19:57

well we're on day 8
Mon 19:57

I'm tempted to just go for ygritte
Mountain Mon 19:57

I'd be fine with that now she's basically been confirmed as Coven.
Oberyn Mon 19:57

pffft, I don't believe the Mod
Mon 19:58

I think he's coven
Mon 19:58

:|
Mountain Mon 19:58

Haha :D
Moderator Mon 19:58

Cersei votes to lynch Ygritte
Moderator Mon 19:59

Mountain votes to lynch Ygritte
Olenna Mon 19:59

need to edit this sentence then When a player is revived by the witch, the village receives the same message as they would if a Reviver used their power
Mon 19:59

or is it meant to be a secret
Moderator Mon 19:59

Olenna votes to lynch Ygritte
Cersei Mon 19:59

I apologize to the brave coven in this game.
Mountain Mon 19:59

I think we're not supposed to know, Olenna
Mon 19:59

Yeah, bad luck Coven, you were doing pretty damn well, even if you did get an extra team member :P
Cersei Mon 19:59

And I'm a bit sad in general :(
Mountain Mon 20:00

Ideally we need Littlefinger to move his vote to Ygritte, as they can currently balance it.
Cersei Mon 20:00

but it's amazing to play such an active game with all ppl. participating.
Mountain Mon 20:01

Yeah, other than the bugs this has been a good one.
Mon 20:01

Nearly everyone's been invested and actively trying to work out what the fuck happened.
Cersei Mon 20:01

So I guess ygritte found out in the first night after the revive that she's coven
Mon 20:01

so that would explain the change of play ://
Mountain Mon 20:01

Yeah, must have seen the chat.
Cersei Mon 20:01

daaamn that must be weird^^
Oberyn Mon 20:02

theoretically, if she had she probably would have kept it secret
Mon 20:02

and so the rest of the coven wouldn't have known
Mon 20:03

and only realised a day later
Cersei Mon 20:03

I grew so found of you 5 :P
Olenna Mon 20:04

lol
Mountain Mon 20:04

Haha, oh.

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