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Mountain Thu 10:00

I revived Ygritte, didn't announce it last night in case there is a Succubus.
Thu 10:01

Looks like a Witch may have too. I'll let a mod know.
Olenna Thu 10:02

Jeez this isn't looking good
Hodor Thu 10:03

OMG I havent seen 4 kills a night... there are some roles out there we didnt even think about
Thu 10:04

Btw, good job Mountain
Cersei Thu 10:04

hey guys
Thu 10:04

your best harlot is back
Thu 10:04

Whoever called Ned a wolf
Thu 10:04

gj :)
Thu 10:04

Ned visited arya
Thu 10:11

but HOW the f so many kills
Thu 10:11

nice she's alive twice
Hodor Thu 10:12

Um I'm confused, why do we have two Ygritte?
Cersei Thu 10:12

according to the list yes, but it's a bug I guess
Thu 10:12

ok so
Thu 10:12

4 kills
Thu 10:13

another hm + milita? I can't think of mod putting like 4 alphas in there
Drogon Thu 10:13

Any idea how there were 4 kills?
Cersei Thu 10:13

I said militia should shoot viserys
Thu 10:13

and he's dead OOPS
Thu 10:13

well I said I would shoot but
Thu 10:13

Ned was fishy all along I think
Hodor Thu 10:13

I dont see any reasons why militia would shoot viserys
Drogon Thu 10:14

A load of alphas, or vampires
Cersei Thu 10:14

because he said shit
Thu 10:14

his only contribution was a theme joke
Thu 10:19

ok, according to jamie ygritte was reviver
Thu 10:20

jamie is dead
Thu 10:20

so we have a revive left for today
Thu 10:21

but we used two on the same person which is bad, but I understand mountains reasoning
Mountain Thu 10:22

My guess is that myself and someone else revived Ygritte, I've asked the mods to fix it, they'll tell us to refresh when it's done. Could be a third reviver (unlikely but possible) or a witch.
Cersei Thu 10:22

I think the game is too small for coven, but not sure... it's CHAOS
Mountain Thu 10:22

Knowing the mods, they would probably do something like that.
Cersei Thu 10:23

yeah!
Mountain Thu 10:23

Plus it would help explain the 4 deaths, alphas or witches, or a possible Huntsman
Cersei Thu 10:23

I don't know why witches would kill tonight
Thu 10:23

who called out ned?
Mountain Thu 10:24

Right, I stayed up to announce my revival before somebody else tried to claim it, I'll be back later.
Cersei Thu 10:24

gj sir
Thu 10:24

btw. Oberyn called out Ned yesterday
Thu 10:25

Oberyn Wed 19:13 also I think Ned is a wolf, just saying
Thu 10:26

Ok to answer the question why I watched Arya instead of Jamie:
Thu 10:26

I honestly thought wolves wouldn't have the ballz for Jamie, and a GD is nice to have but he doesn't find new wolves. He just gives some information. I thought Arya was the next best target.
Thu 10:27

Also considered watching Oberyn
Thu 10:29

So who do we bring back, I guess most obvious would be jamie, but I'm not sure if this is the right play
Thu 10:29

we miss some roles.
Thu 10:29

I trust Jamie I just wonder if a GD is what we need
Thu 10:41

mod gimme vote plz :P
Hodor Thu 11:15

Oh so two people revived Ygritte. It makes sense if we have 2 revivers, but three? Witch seems possible. I wonder why mod doesnt want us to know the roles..
Thu 11:18

Anyway I wanna hear Ned explain something. Or Ygritte. Who does she think should be bring back
Thu 11:19

*brought
Moderator Thu 12:03

Cersei votes to lynch Ned
Moderator Thu 12:19

Oberyn votes to lynch Ned
Oberyn Thu 12:19

Called it ;)
Cersei Thu 12:20

I'm impressed
Oberyn Thu 12:20

so I'm a reviver and I also went for Yg
Cersei Thu 12:21

daaamn
Moderator Thu 12:21

Hodor votes to lynch Ned
Hodor Thu 12:21

Ooow... so we do have thre revivers
Oberyn Thu 12:21

kind of wish I hadn't now but I also thought 3 revivers was unlikely
Cersei Thu 12:21

well I guess everyone did
Thu 12:21

question for me is, how many wolves put mod in
Thu 12:22

seems he gave us plenty of revivers
Thu 12:22

and ofc the best harlot EU
Thu 12:22

#humblebrag
Oberyn Thu 12:22

I worry that with three revivers there will be a lot of wolves
Cersei Thu 12:23

well I remember 48
Thu 12:23

it was a disaster
Thu 12:23

so maybe mod gave us more tools
Thu 12:23

I was wolf back then XD
Thu 12:24

Oberyn how do you think we ended up with 4 killz?
Oberyn Thu 12:26

well, three revivers would make sense if there were multiple alphas
Cersei Thu 12:26

but how many!
Thu 12:26

I mean
Thu 12:26

4 kills in a row
Thu 12:26

damn would have thought you were militia and shot viserys or sometihn
Thu 12:26

I still think he was militiad
Oberyn Thu 12:28

I wouldn't have actually shot Vys as militia, I'd have gone for Ned ;)
Cersei Thu 12:28

true
Thu 12:29

2 nights in a row with 4 kills
Thu 12:29

4 alphas?
Thu 12:29

plus 2 hm'
Thu 12:29

wth
Thu 12:29

I don't get it
Thu 12:34

I can't think of 4 alphas in one game
Oberyn Thu 12:35

three alpha, 1 militia, 1 hm?
Thu 12:35

Vys is top of the kill list so would make sense for it to be militia?
Cersei Thu 12:36

yea village actions first
Oberyn Thu 12:51

I just read back and I'm curious as to why Mountain immediately suggested a Witch also revived Yg, not a second reviver?
Thu 12:52

I assumed there wasn't any coven in this game because no-one got body swapped (or at least admitted to it)
Thu 12:52

but now I wonder if maybe that was a mistake... hmm
Ned Thu 14:18

whoa whoa whoa
Thu 14:18

yall
Thu 14:18

i'm militia
Thu 14:18

i wanted to use my kill before i died
Thu 14:19

and i went for viserys
Thu 14:19

didn't y'all catch that bandwagon vote for sansa at the end of the day w/o saying anything from viserys ??
Thu 14:20

and tbh i was gonna go for oberyn but i decided that killing him bc he thought i was a wolf is a bit much
Moderator Thu 14:20

Ned votes to lynch Cersei
Ned Thu 14:21

i just dont get it
Thu 14:21

sansa had literally the worst defence i thought for sure cersei was on our side
Thu 14:21

unless somehow succubus redirected me ,,,,,,,,,, idk man
Thu 14:22

and ??? it's a bit sus that cersei keeps avoiding the obvious ppl to watch and keeps finding "wolves"
Cersei Thu 14:24

I don't know, I found arya pretty obvious
Thu 14:24

btw. if I'm not legit I could just watch the obvious ppl. and blame their deaths on randoms
Thu 14:24

Btw. it wouldn't matter if I find a kill on Yrya or Jamie.
Thu 14:24

*arya
Thu 14:25

I saw you there.
Thu 14:26

As I said before I didn't think you wolves would have the ballz to go for jamie.
Thu 14:28

I'm at the moment the only source left, I want to find wolves, I thought I could leave the protection to others. Mistake maybe, but I would have maybe seen you also visiting Jamie, so... one wolf or the other.
Hodor Thu 14:29

So I dont really get it.. Ned shoot Viserys but Cersei saw him visited Arya?
Cersei Thu 14:29

yes, I don't get why he just claimed to have shot Arya
Thu 14:29

I think would have been the better play but
Thu 14:30

I think he wants to discredit me as much as possible before he goes down. If he goes for the militia kill on arya defense he confirms me.
Thu 14:31

So he goes for a complexly different target. Maybe in the hope saw him visiting that one as well. But I'm not sure how stalker result turns out if an alpha uses his ability.
Thu 14:31

*completely
Ygritte Thu 15:48

Am I a wight now? Anyway, I'm sure everyone is dying to hear some dead gossip, but I'm going to hold off on that for a little bit. I'm going back and rereading daytime chat.
Cersei Thu 15:51

welcome back Ygritte
Thu 16:11

common Ygritte, I'm dieing of curiosity. I didn't write THAT much :P
Oberyn Thu 16:29

better then dying of lycanthropy
Cersei Thu 16:29

poor Ned.
Thu 16:29

getting lynched AGAIN
Thu 16:30

so Oberyn what do you think of ned's defense?
Oberyn Thu 16:30

you know, Ayra might have still been alive if y'all had listened to my suggestion of lynching people in the order that they die in the series
Drogon Thu 16:32

Just finished reading through the chat, I find Cersei's story much more viable
Oberyn Thu 16:32

I think it's plausible, but I don't believe him... let's assume he is militia then either he fucked up and killed the wrong person, got controlled by a succubus or you're lying
Thu 16:32

in two of those cases, it doesn't explain why Vys is dead
Thu 16:33

so there would have to be a second militia who *also* wanted to kill Vys
Ygritte Thu 16:34

Alright I'm back. The reality is that no one said much useful in dead chat.
Thu 16:35

You'll be happy to know that the Hound mostly stayed in character, though
Oberyn Thu 16:35

defiant until the end, and then some
Ygritte Thu 16:36

Mentioned something about how Cersei was getting on his tits
Thu 16:36

good stuff
Thu 16:36

Anyway, Bronn was the leader of the "Don't say anything in case a non-village gets revived" brigade
Cersei Thu 16:38

So there were no claims?
Oberyn Thu 16:39

Would you trust them, if there were?
Cersei Thu 16:39

no
Thu 16:40

only probably a wolf admititng he's wolf
Ygritte Thu 16:41

I think Bronn is unlikely to be a wolf. Wasn't nuts about his info hiding idea, BUT if Bronn is a wolf, then there's no way that village Cersei could have seen Sansa's visit, and if Cersei is a wolf, then that means Sansa was telling the truth and there were two dead wolves and one dead village that night.
Thu 16:41

Which is possible with militia or witch, but unlikely
Drogon Thu 16:43

Did Jaime say anything? Does GD ability work before you die?
Oberyn Thu 16:44

she won't know - he died last night so she won't have seen
Cersei Thu 16:44

I actually believe sansa's claim that Hound was wolf
Thu 16:44

when I fake claim I always mix some truth into it
Ygritte Thu 16:44

Yes, Jaime would have gotten a peek, but had no way to tell it before I was revived
Drogon Thu 16:44

Ah I see that makes sense oops
Cersei Thu 16:45

So I always try to include some dead wolves what ever
Thu 16:45

use the info you got
Ygritte Thu 16:45

Hound was practically begging for me to revive him, so I'm inclined to believe it as well. No harm in throwing already dead wolves under the bus
Cersei Thu 16:45

yes
Thu 16:46

thoughts about ned?
Thu 16:46

me?
Ygritte Thu 16:47

I'm inclined to believe you over Ned. Part of what I was rereading was whether your decision to visit Arya over Jaime made sense or not.
Drogon Thu 16:48

Ned's story seems more unlikely, then him actually being a wolf
Oberyn Thu 16:48

I just don't trust Ned
Cersei Thu 16:48

I'm just not a huge fan of harlot as a protector role
Ned Thu 16:49

alriiiighty
Thu 16:49

so oberyn's got it out for me for sure
Oberyn Thu 16:49

yesterday when I suggested balancing Sansa he was the third person - maybe half an hour or more after the second - to ask why... I'd have thought it was fairly obvious why someone might want to balance a potential seer claim but regardless it was the way he asked
Ned Thu 16:50

lmfaoooooooo
Thu 16:50

my dude sansa seemed very clearly like a wolf
Cersei Thu 16:50

hound?
Ned Thu 16:50

her checks didnt make sense and cersei's claim seemed valid
Thu 16:50

and yet u kept tryna balance ??
Oberyn Thu 16:51

Cerci and Ayra phrased it in a certain way, questioning whether there was any new information, whist Ned just asked straight up, it seemed more like an attempt to get on the "anti-wolf" train rather than actually wanting an answer
Cersei Thu 16:53

Arya tried to get more info out of Sansa multiple times
Ygritte Thu 16:54

Oberyn's "balance" attempt put the vote at 4 to 1, I'd hardly call that a hearty attempt
Cersei Thu 16:55

I think he wanted to know who would bite
Ygritte Thu 16:55

yes, I've done that before as well
Thu 16:56

or faked claims
Cersei Thu 16:56

so far Oberyn has made some really good remarks and nice nuances.
Thu 16:57

also the question why I came out instantly and didn't consider militia
Thu 16:57

smart stuff
Ned Thu 16:57

y'all ,,,,
Thu 16:57

ur all fools oh my g o d
Ygritte Thu 16:57

ok
Moderator Thu 16:57

Ygritte votes to lynch Ned
Ygritte Thu 16:58

I hate making meta votes, but there you go
Ned Thu 16:58

?????
Thu 16:58

meta votes ?????
Cersei Thu 16:58

I've heard better defenses, would rate the toilets 4/10
Ned Thu 16:58

lmfaooo
Oberyn Thu 16:58

oh man, let's play Spyfall again soon
Ned Thu 16:58

tbh yall im rly sick and was not planning on spending as much time as usual on this game
Drogon Thu 16:58

Calling us fools is hardly a defence
Oberyn Thu 16:58

anyway
Ned Thu 16:59

my defence is literally calling u fools bc i already explained my thoughts before and i dont wanna reiterate bc no one will believe me
Oberyn Thu 16:59

Ned - if you're not a wolf then who do you think the wolves are?
Ned Thu 16:59

you, for starters
Drogon Thu 17:00

I thought your story was unlikely but I didn't completely disbelieve you
Oberyn Thu 17:00

risky claiming to be the second (third?) reviver but I understand why
Ned Thu 17:00

cersei has to be unless there's a succubus, but then i dont get why viserys still died
Ygritte Thu 17:00

^third
Ned Thu 17:00

???? oberyn wyd
Thu 17:00

i gotta blast rip
Oberyn Thu 17:01

Ygrette, technically you haven't revived anyone yet so I'm counting you as the third :p
Thu 17:01

Ygritte*
Ygritte Thu 17:03

so from y'alls POV I guess there are 3 options on that: one is that Jaime was really GD and I'm really reviver. Two is that there's a BH (and I'm reviver) and somehow Jaime got HM'd. Third is that both Jaime and I are coven.
Thu 17:04

it ain't #3, but I guess only I know that for sure. I doubt #2, since Hound pitched it in dead chat.
Oberyn Thu 17:06

I think the first one, I was merely ordering by the order that the revives happened (Mountain claimed you as his before I did, so he gets the gold medal :()
Cersei Thu 17:07

Who do we revive?
Oberyn Thu 17:07

I think Bloodhound would be unfair in this set up, assuming my speculation on the set up is correct
Ygritte Thu 17:07

agreed
Thu 17:07

way OP
Thu 17:07

wolves already know more than village
Drogon Thu 17:07

If it is the first option would Jaime be the best rez?
Cersei Thu 17:08

Bronn?
Oberyn Thu 17:08

Jamie, Yara, Bronn would be my order - trusted GD, possible HM, talkative player who seemed to be spring village in dead chat
Ygritte Thu 17:08

I'm pretty sure Bronn is village based on reasons I listed earlier, but I have no idea of his role. I asked him if he thought his ability was more important than an HM's but he never answered.
Oberyn Thu 17:08

maybe swap Yara and Bronn, idk
Littlefinger Thu 17:08

I stalked arya night one who visited herself. Jamie night two who visited ygritte in her grave and last night i stalked cersie who visited arya
Cersei Thu 17:09

Bingo
Thu 17:09

Go for arya
Oberyn Thu 17:09

neither is confirmed so there's a level of risk to both, Jamie isn't confirmed either but I'd say it's less likely he's been playing us
Cersei Thu 17:09

If I survive tonight
Littlefinger Thu 17:09

I believe arya is prot jamie is gd and 50% sure cersie is harlot
Cersei Thu 17:09

Arya would be u.e ul
Oberyn Thu 17:09

oh, Ayra yes!
Cersei Thu 17:10

Useful...
Thu 17:10

But I dont survive fuck
Ygritte Thu 17:11

Yeah, because I'd guess at least one of last night's deaths was HM
Cersei Thu 17:11

There could be more
Ygritte Thu 17:11

possible
Thu 17:11

optimistic, but possible
Cersei Thu 17:12

I saw arya die, so shes the safest choice for me. But if I die there is nothing to protect
Littlefinger Thu 17:12

Do we only gave one reviver now?
Cersei Thu 17:12

But the gd is useless without hints
Oberyn Thu 17:12

Ygritte raises an interesting point
Ygritte Thu 17:12

and if I was militia, I wouldn't counterclaim Ned right now since it looks like he's getting lynched anyway (whether I'd used my ability or not)
Oberyn Thu 17:12

what if there's no villagers?
Cersei Thu 17:12

Yeah
Thu 17:12

Noone claimed village yet
Thu 17:13

I mean vanilla
Ygritte Thu 17:13

Even in regular games there's usually no more than 3, wouldn't shock me if 0 or 1 vanilla here
Oberyn Thu 17:13

harlots, stalkers, wolves, protectors, huntsmen, revivers and one gd?
Thu 17:14

maybe two gd
Thu 17:14

no seer, no bloodhound, probably no SS
Thu 17:14

still undecided on coven, but they're playing careful if there are
Cersei Thu 17:15

Ok how about if one protection reveals now protects me. If I die lynch the protection. I. Not e have arya back
Oberyn Thu 17:16

try that last bit again?
Cersei Thu 17:16

If I survive we habe arya back
Thu 17:17

Sry mobile
Thu 17:17

I know tis very self centric of me but so far who else can find wolves
Drogon Thu 17:17

What if they target the reviver again?
Cersei Thu 17:17

No problem
Thu 17:18

She wil get the revive off
Ygritte Thu 17:18

Yeah, use both revives
Cersei Thu 17:18

And then die
Oberyn Thu 17:18

yeah, village actions happen first
Ygritte Thu 17:18

plus that's confirmation of Oberyn
Thu 17:18

I'll take Arya
Cersei Thu 17:18

Oberyn used it..
Ygritte Thu 17:19

oh
Cersei Thu 17:19

I think
Ygritte Thu 17:19

then it's confirmation of Mountain
Oberyn Thu 17:19

I revived already, I think it still counts
Ygritte Thu 17:19

ah ok
Cersei Thu 17:19

Did mod say anything?
Drogon Thu 17:19

So double revive on the same person loses both?
Oberyn Thu 17:19

no, like, we both used it
Thu 17:19

so effectively one got wasted
Thu 17:19

so it was a bit of a waste :(
Cersei Thu 17:19

I think so yes
Ygritte Thu 17:19

if I was modding a f2f game, that's how I'd do it
Thu 17:19

so bummer
Cersei Thu 17:20

F2f?
Oberyn Thu 17:20

face-to-face
Cersei Thu 17:20

Ah
Oberyn Thu 17:20

(I assume)
Ygritte Thu 17:20

yup
Cersei Thu 17:20

So you think its worth for a protection if left to reveal?
Thu 17:21

Because who should arya protect...
Ygritte Thu 17:21

I wouldn't reveal
Cersei Thu 17:21

Littlefinger is lonley t en
Thu 17:21

I can watch the protection
Oberyn Thu 17:21

I guess the question is, who would be the most likely target tonight?
Thu 17:21

I don't think Ygritte
Thu 17:22

she'll revive even if targeted, so there's no real motivation for wolves to target her?
Ygritte Thu 17:22

yeah, I'll just be a vanillager
Thu 17:22

tomorrow
Thu 17:22

Cersei or LF
Drogon Thu 17:23

Cersei would probably be the biggest target
Oberyn Thu 17:23

so maybe protect Cerci and Cerci watches LF
Thu 17:23

I think Harlot > Stalker anyway, since it's easier to guess potential targets than it is to guess potential wolves?
Thu 17:24

maybe I just suck as Stalker though
Cersei Thu 17:32

Do we have anything left?
Ygritte Thu 17:32

I wish at least one reviver would have claimed yesterday. Then we'd still have a revive left, and Arya would have felt safer self-protecting. But I probably wouldn't have claimed either.
Oberyn Thu 17:34

I guess we both thought it was unlikely that there would be three
Ygritte Thu 17:35

no, I get it. It's just hindsight.
Thu 17:35

like I said, I wouldn't have announced it either
Oberyn Thu 17:36

we only have 3 people alive who haven't claimed a role
Thu 17:36

of them, two have been pretty inactive
Thu 17:36

has Olenna said anything in the last few days?
Ygritte Thu 17:36

Olenna pitched in a little day 2, but nothing day 3
Thu 17:37

I noticed that as I was rereading earlier
Oberyn Thu 17:37

I thought I saw something but couldn't remember when
Cersei Thu 17:51

Just fake-claim
Thu 17:51

better than no protection xD
Ygritte Thu 18:41

The game should end here, unless militia actually shot a villager last night, or someone here is full of shit. We're assuming HM kill n2, Sansa's lynch, Ned's lynch, and either a militia or HM kill n3. That's 4 wolves. So either this should do it, or an assumption is very wrong.
Olenna Thu 18:52

well i might just come out cus why not
Thu 18:52

if thats the game we're playing
Cersei Thu 19:12

*waiting*
Olenna Thu 19:15

i think I will wait
Cersei Thu 19:15

until?
Olenna Thu 19:16

well what is the probability of what ygritte is saying is true
Thu 19:19

how many evils do you think are about
Cersei Thu 19:28

I think one should have died to hm, and we lynch the second
Thu 19:29

well you already hinted a role so ://
Littlefinger Thu 19:43

wonders if mod filled the room with roles.
Ygritte Thu 19:44

I actually think that is likely
Thu 19:44

And several alphas
Littlefinger Thu 19:44

if that is not the case, then there is quite possibly a bh
Thu 19:44

last night seems way too targeted
Thu 19:45

Cersei, who should I stalk tonight? in the event that i survive to tell the village
Ygritte Thu 19:46

Again, if this lynch doesn't end the game, I can only think of three possbilities: militia shot a villager, there were 4 alphas, cersei is a wolf, there's a coven
Thu 19:46

four possibilities
Littlefinger Thu 19:47

this has a possibility
Thu 19:47

not sure on coven, more likely heavy wolf team
Ygritte Thu 19:48

4 alphas seems unthematic, but then again so would 2 and I think we're pretty sure that was the case
Thu 19:48

at least 2, that is
Littlefinger Thu 19:49

i know 1oo% 2 of my stalks have to be the roles I believe, the other one does need confirming however i am not sure we have the time or resource to check
Thu 19:49

likely 2 alphas and we lost a hm
Thu 19:50

or 1 alpha militia and dead hm (from normal wolf prot)
Thu 19:50

unless ss
Thu 19:51

oh mod. why do you hate us so much....
Ygritte Thu 19:51

And I guess there's another possibility beyond what I just listed: 5th wolf
Thu 19:52

which would be really weird, but whatever
Littlefinger Thu 19:53

normal wolves group together so not sure what logic you're looking at
Ygritte Thu 19:53

just spitballing reasons why this lynch wouldn't end the game
Littlefinger Thu 19:53

ah
Thu 19:54

more likely to end the game due to wolves outnumbering
Ygritte Thu 20:21

Only in the worst case scenario: 4 alpha wolves. 2 alpha kills n2, 2 alpha kills n3, Ned is telling the truth but actually shot a villager. In that case, yes, parity tomorrow, even after my revive
Cersei Thu 20:28

mhhhh
Thu 20:28

where is oleanna gone?
Thu 20:48

`From the living ppl. I'm suspicious of Hodor and Drogon
Olenna Thu 21:13

oby my boy is a cover
Thu 21:13

coven*
Mountain Thu 21:13

OK, back. Not sure why people think Coven is unlikely, I think it's more likely than 3 revivers - this would mean either our 'GD' lied to get a Coven member revived, or either Oberyn or myself are a witch. #Also, the site was updated recently to randomise the death order (mod told me in relation to a previous game) so we can't assume the Militia kill is first and so on
Thu 21:13

Well that timing was uncanny. Olenna, are you claiming Seer?
Cersei Thu 21:15

oleanna what are the other checks?
Olenna Thu 21:17

mountain village and Jamie village
Mountain Thu 21:19

Mind telling us the order and the reasoning for your checks?
Ygritte Thu 21:23

Huh. I actually wasn't expecting this, since no one had complained about being redirected yet.
Cersei Thu 21:23

maybe just two witches or something?
Mountain Thu 21:23

My theory is that either we had a Djinn who died pretty early, is inactive, or there are multiple witches instead (would explain the high number of night kills)
Thu 21:24

Or they're just saving their power for later in the game, to put us off guard...
Ygritte Thu 21:24

Bronn being coven would explain his caginess in dead chat
Hodor Thu 21:25

Whoa I'm just back from some matters and people already have suspicion on me..
Thu 21:25

I'm just a normal villager, if it needs to be claimed
Mountain Thu 21:27

Hidden roles is ideal for Coven too, probably slightly designed to help them get a win
Ygritte Thu 21:27

well...one person has claimed being redirected, and we're about to lynch him
Mountain Thu 21:27

Two witches would help with that, to whittle down the wolves quicker
Cersei Thu 21:28

no he didn't
Thu 21:28

I think he said "maybe I was redirected"
Mountain Thu 21:28

He said he went for Viserys
Cersei Thu 21:29

unless somehow succubus redirected me ,,,,,,,,,, idk man
Thu 21:29

don't you see that?
Mountain Thu 21:29

He did say that there's a chance he could have been directed, in which case he was unlucky that Viserys was killed anyway
Cersei Thu 21:29

maybe not on a kill?
Ygritte Thu 21:30

If you get redirected, doesn't it tell you your new target? So he would have known, assuming he read carefully.
Cersei Thu 21:30

I think it does
Mountain Thu 21:30

That's a good point, yeah, it should do
Cersei Thu 21:30

I was never milita
Mountain Thu 21:30

Never been redirected, but that's my understanding of it
Cersei Thu 21:30

but it does on all other roles
Thu 21:30

I was as seer
Thu 21:30

and the result hat a different name
Thu 21:30

like "Homer is a villager" while I wanted to check Bart
Thu 21:31

I don't know how it is on militia
Ygritte Thu 21:31

Yeah, I think it was a stab in the dark, now that I reread the actual words
Mountain Thu 21:32

Actually, thinking about it, I don't think Militia are told anything, they just see that they die
Cersei Thu 21:32

this is fked man
Thu 21:32

I find this setup really unfair
Thu 21:32

bit pissed now
Mountain Thu 21:33

So there is a chance he was redirected and Viserys happened to die from another wolf/witch/alpha/militia kill
Cersei Thu 21:33

so we have to assume witch kills
Thu 21:33

and revives
Thu 21:33

problem now is, ygritte could be redirected
Thu 21:33

but why was I never redirected?
Thu 21:33

or anyone else?
Mountain Thu 21:33

Yeah, Ygritte shouldn't tell us when she is using her ability, so they won't know
Thu 21:34

Maybe because you would spot you had been redirected?
Thu 21:34

I'm betting there's a Shapeshifter too, so we need to be careful
Cersei Thu 21:34

I'm so demotivated right now
Thu 21:35

I mean this could be everything
Thu 21:35

I feel my time is wasted
Mountain Thu 21:36

Do we think lynching Oberyn would be a better move today?
Cersei Thu 21:36

no idea, do what you want. I'm probably done with this round. this is BS
Mountain Thu 21:38

Come on, part of the fun is trying to deduce what's going on, it's an interesting thought exercise. Besides, we need you to keep doing your checks and airing your theories.
Thu 21:38

Ygritte, what do you think?
Ygritte Thu 21:39

I'm still a little shocked. Kind of wish we'd found out sooner than 45 minutes before lynch.
Thu 21:39

and I'd like to see Olenna answer the question you asked earlier
Mountain Thu 21:40

Yeah, it's basically down to us few to decide what happens today now, which kind of sucks. If Olenna is here it'd be really useful to hear her check order and reasons.
Cersei Thu 21:40

well first one is kinda free of charge, second one jamie, no suprise
Mountain Thu 21:41

The fact that it just happens to be me is quite coincidental though, since I'm sure Oberyn would argue that I am a witch (I believe he was trying to hint at that earlier today, actually).
Cersei Thu 21:42

what I dont get is
Thu 21:42

was Oberyn's remark about ned pure co-incidnece
Mountain Thu 21:43

Which remark, sorry?
Oberyn Thu 21:43

oh wow, this is unexpected
Thu 21:43

but, I wouldn't argue Mountain is a Witch, actually
Thu 21:43

I was thinking about it, but it doesn't really make sense ... why would either of us revive Ygritte if we were a Witch?
Hodor Thu 21:44

I honestly have no idea, literally confused. What I can think is witch might be possible, since someone got revived twice and there's another kill. But I dont think they would use two potions in one night
Cersei Thu 21:45

lets balance
Ygritte Thu 21:45

It does seem to count on having wolves do their work later
Cersei Thu 21:45

and see how many ppl die or what ever
Oberyn Thu 21:45

I think the only way that there's coven in this game is if there's a Djinn (because it's been acknowledged that Witches are pretty useless on their own due to their revives being insta-lynched) - and since we have no evidence of there being a Djinn I still think coven is unlikely
Thu 21:45

plus I know I'm not coven >.<
Olenna Thu 21:46

first night mountain random, second Jamie cus claiming role and such, third oby cus accusing people of being Wolfy
Mountain Thu 21:46

Been thinking about that too, Oberyn, and all I can come up with is to gain the trust of the village. Either you or Olenna must be lying and you being a witch would make more sense than 3 revivers and no Coven, since the no role announcement thing is perfect for Coven
Thu 21:47

Djinn could either not be in the game, have already died or waiting to use it to keep the existence of the Coven secret for as long as possible
Cersei Thu 21:48

why did you fucking turn up 30min before midnight with COVEN?
Ygritte Thu 21:48

^this
Cersei Thu 21:48

seriously
Oberyn Thu 21:48

accusing people of being Wolfy" :
Cersei Thu 21:48

I'm more inclined just to lynch you
Oberyn Thu 21:48

person, would be more accurate
Mountain Thu 21:49

Could be due to timezone
Cersei Thu 21:49

you waited 12 hours for that info
Thu 21:49

sorry 11:30
Thu 21:49

ok so how many coven coud there be
Thu 21:49

3?
Thu 21:49

they have 2 kill power
Thu 21:50

according to the kills they maye have used some
Thu 21:50

so even if we kill ned
Thu 21:50

we shouldn't lose
Thu 21:50

but there must be an alpha somewhere
Thu 21:50

they can probably only come up with 2 kills
Thu 21:50

so there is some missing
Ygritte Thu 21:50

Yeah, I'm letting it go. Olenna finally says something after three days, and it's 45 minutes before lynch.
Oberyn Thu 21:50

I really hope Olenna isn't a shapeshifter
Moderator Thu 21:51

Ned votes to lynch Oberyn
Cersei Thu 21:51

or some funny wolf clicked some button before the lynch got executed
Ned Thu 21:51

there we go then ,,
Cersei Thu 21:51

hey ned is back
Oberyn Thu 21:51

well, at least Ned doesn't think I'm a wolf anymore
Cersei Thu 21:51

lol
Ned Thu 21:51

yall did i not say i couldve be redirected by succubus ? there couldve been coven ??
Cersei Thu 21:51

there is still a wolf somewhere, someone disagree?
Thu 21:51

is there a message for your kill?
Thu 21:51

or does it just tel you who you target
Mountain Thu 21:52

Unless Huntsman has taken them out, yeah, it's likely there's still a wolf
Cersei Thu 21:52

mhhh
Ned Thu 21:52

it just says "you have used your kill" or smth like that
Cersei Thu 21:52

with ned's kill we're on 3 possible kills
Thu 21:52

how about balance'
Ned Thu 21:52

im not gonna scroll and get the exact phrasing bc meta
Mountain Thu 21:52

Sure
Cersei Thu 21:52

and then see how many ppl. die?
Moderator Thu 21:52

Mountain votes to lynch Oberyn
Cersei Thu 21:52

I don't know
Moderator Thu 21:52

Cersei votes to lynch Oberyn
Cersei Thu 21:52

I don't know if this is a really stupid idea
Thu 21:53

or a good one
Oberyn Thu 21:53

thing I don't like about Ned's claim that he got Succubus'd is that there's been no evidence of anyone else getting controlled and it would be mad luck for them to redirect the unknown militia on the night they kill?
Ygritte Thu 21:53

^that too
Cersei Thu 21:53

next thing I wonder, we know 2 ppl. revived ygritte
Thu 21:54

why would the coven do that too?
Ned Thu 21:54

lmao oberyn
Thu 21:54

no evidence of anyone else being controlled" binch t
Moderator Thu 21:54

Cersei votes to lynch Ned
Cersei Thu 21:54

I don't see the coven plan
Ygritte Thu 21:54

And Ned's defense is horrible
Ned Thu 21:54

no one is gonna come out saying "oh succubus controlled me" if they're a role
Mountain Thu 21:55

Succubus could be laying low since most people seemed to think there was no Coven until now
Ned Thu 21:55

they don't wanna reveal yet
Mountain Thu 21:55

That's also a good point
Ygritte Thu 21:55

yeah, but damn near everyone is revealed now
Cersei Thu 21:55

Why would coven revive ygritte?
Mountain Thu 21:55

That is bothering me
Cersei Thu 21:55

it makes no sense
Hodor Thu 21:55

Oh ow... so are we balancing or not?
Ned Thu 21:55

oh my god like i said my defence is horrible bc im really sick and not super invested in this game
Mountain Thu 21:55

Up to you guys, I think a lynch would make more sense personally
Ygritte Thu 21:55

I'm not taking my vote off Ned
Mountain Thu 21:55

I'm leaning towards Oberyn, but Ned makes sense to me too
Ned Thu 21:56

im too busy hacking up a lung to spend all my time defending myself
Cersei Thu 21:56

but this makes oleanna suspicious
Ygritte Thu 21:56

Yet here you are doing it, Ned
Ned Thu 21:56

lmao
Cersei Thu 21:56

Ned, if you die don't take it personal. I know you could be right. But ..
Ned Thu 21:56

i checked in ten min before nightfall
Thu 21:56

if i rly was defending myself i would have been on for the past two hours
Mountain Thu 21:57

To be fair, we don't actually know if Oberyn visited Ygritte, do we? We've taken it at his word that he did revive, for all we know he is a Succubus or Djinn if Olenna is telling the truth
Cersei Thu 21:57

according to oleanna jamie is village, if jamie is village ygritte is village, if ygritte is village, why would coven revive them
Mountain Thu 21:57

Another villager could be the Witch
Cersei Thu 21:57

we kinda know there were two revives
Mountain Thu 21:57

Yeah, I know, one must have been a witch unless there are 3 revivers
Ned Thu 21:58

last thoughts before y'all unnecessarily lynch me— there is def coven & oberyn is probs one of them ,, probably accidentally clicked revive button. there is probs no djinn
Cersei Thu 21:58

look, if coven win what ever, this round is some mix of luck and what ever
Ned Thu 21:58

1 or 2 witches and a succubus
Cersei Thu 21:58

or we just lynch off drogon or something
Ned Thu 21:58

i find hodor and drogon a bit sus
Cersei Thu 21:58

this guy has claimed shit yet, said shit
Thu 21:58

nothing of value at all lol
Olenna Thu 21:59

I'll check hodor or something
Thu 21:59

I dunno
Mountain Thu 21:59

Only thing other than an accident I can think of is to try gain the village's trust, since if two hadn't happened they could have claimed to be reviver, since nobody knew Coven were around
Ned Thu 21:59

if y'all are looking for wolves, look for the ppl that said hardly anything today and just jumped on the bandwagon to vote me (the supposed wolf)
Cersei Thu 21:59

names?
Ned Thu 21:59

anyways ur welcome for taking out viserys
Oberyn Thu 21:59

Ayra*
Cersei Thu 22:00

?
Oberyn Thu 22:00

or do we still not believe Cerci is the harlot?
Lynched Thu 22:00

Ned was lynched by the village

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