Mafia Replay - Lord of the Rings Identities

Replay

This is a log of a game of werewolves started on the 23rd July 2016 on a 24 hour cycle (12h day, 12h night).
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Killed

Eowyn was killed during the night
Day 4
Moderator

The sun rises, the village is safe from the werewolves for now. Discuss who you think is a wolf, soon you will get a chance to lynch them
Frodo

Active during the last day
Gothmog

Active during the last day
Legolas

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Eowyn

Active during the last day
Gollum

Active during the last day
WitchKing

Active during the last day
Grima

Active during the last day
Merry

Active during the last day
Elrond

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Aragorn

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Sauron

Active during the last day
WitchKing Thu 10:01

Mornin'
Legolas Thu 10:01

Mornin
WitchKing Thu 10:01

Activity feed is working fine today it seems...
Thu 10:02

@Grima, @Sauron, @Elrond we need to hear from you three today asap...
Legolas Thu 10:02

was one of you GR before?
Merry Thu 10:03

So Eowyn SS into someone then?
Legolas Thu 10:04

Witch say something to convince me you were not ss'ed
Thu 10:04

Same for merry
Thu 10:04

:P
Merry Thu 10:05

Did you steal the role of the wolf last night Legolas..?
WitchKing Thu 10:05

"You're a dick"
Merry Thu 10:05

Backstabber??
Legolas Thu 10:05

no, I tried to steal gollum
Thu 10:05

but I messed something up
WitchKing Thu 10:05

(I'm quoting X-men got anyone who doesn't get it)
Legolas Thu 10:05

nothing happened
Merry Thu 10:05

What?!
WitchKing Thu 10:06

Well that can't be right
Merry Thu 10:06

Why would you try to do that..
Legolas Thu 10:06

I clicked twice I think
WitchKing Thu 10:06

He was either a wolf or a seer so you would have got something
Legolas Thu 10:06

ok, I was MAD yesterday, at you guys
Thu 10:07

so I went for the yolo and clicked to steal gollums role after Witchking said that he starts to believe gollum
Thu 10:08

I went to brush my teeth came back and had some doubts, so I clicked on it again
Merry Thu 10:08

Hmm
Thu 10:08

So you unselected it?
WitchKing Thu 10:08

I think we should lynch Lego if Sauron confirms Gollum is a wolf
Legolas Thu 10:09

I don't know if I can say what happend, could be too meta :S
WitchKing Thu 10:09

Could be, could be
Legolas Thu 10:10

I'll just say that I was sure I would steal the role
Merry Thu 10:10

Do you believe gothmog over Lego, witch?
Legolas Thu 10:10

how can he believe gothmog, this guy said almost nothing
Thu 10:11

I made plans in my head for the case I was wrong on gollum
Thu 10:11

I almost couldn't sleep because I tought it was a really bad play
Thu 10:11

and now just nothing happend and I'm WTF
Merry Thu 10:11

Goth doesn't seem like same person but now I guess he must have been unless Eowyn was not a wolf.. And Frodo is
WitchKing Thu 10:12

Merry, I don't know... I just think Lego behaves like a wolf?
Legolas Thu 10:12

:(
WitchKing Thu 10:12

He defends a dodgy sounding seer, he claims to have tried to take the dodgy seer's role without waiting for it to be confirmed...
Legolas Thu 10:13

oh I was so frustrated I was ready to become a wolf
Merry Thu 10:13

He defended gollum? He claims GR along with goth so I get why he would rather kill goth
WitchKing Thu 10:14

He seemed certain that Gothmog was a wolf before Goth revealed as GR ... when it was ambiguous he didn't seem suspicious of Sauron too...? Like he found a weak player in Gothmog and decided to target them?
Thu 10:14

Idk
Legolas Thu 10:14

holly shit if I was a wolf I would be so fking meta :D
Thu 10:14

I honestly would probably be proud of myself for that acting job...
Thu 10:15

Witch thats not true
Thu 10:15

I heavily argued with Sauron
Thu 10:15

that the "I'm SOME grave role" makes no sense
Thu 10:16

because I knew we would be lost if we went for it
Thu 10:16

there would have been two suspects
Thu 10:16

I smelled blood there, because I'm ONE grave role, so I need to know which of those claims the same
Merry Thu 10:16

I was sure of goth being wolf because I felt it was different person, real goth said he had role that he couldn't work night 1, pippin was under suspicion
Legolas Thu 10:17

Witch you can read yesterday evening, I argued with sauron about the reveal
Thu 10:18

if we stayed with "those two have some grave role" I wouldn't have known who lied
Thu 10:18

because then both could claim gravedigger to evade my graverobber claim
Merry Thu 10:19

I hope we hear from the people with roles soon..
Thu 10:20

They can't all be lying ><
Legolas Thu 10:20

I don't know ppl. seem scared of me, I think they think I'm some kind of super player aka. tywin 41 style. :(
Thu 10:20

I'm just overmotivated town
Merry Thu 10:21

I want to vote!
Thu 10:21

Let the voting commence
Thu 10:21

Lego - do you think Elowyn was SS?
Legolas Thu 10:22

mhhh
Thu 10:23

honestly I want to hear from Sauron and Grima, if Grima claims I'm a wolf that changes so many dynamics in this game
WitchKing Thu 10:23

I wanna know who Frodo and Aragorn saw
Legolas Thu 10:24

Aragorn yes
Thu 10:24

Frodo is still on some shady basis
Thu 10:24

that's why I wanted aragorn to check me
Merry Thu 10:25

I want to hear from Frodo first
Thu 10:25

I think Aragorn should keep quiet
Legolas Thu 10:25

I see your point
Frodo Thu 10:26

I didn't think Legolas was a wolf at all, but now he seems to be hinting that he joined them, why would he admit he tried to take Gollums role?! I have never been in a situation where GR becomes wolf before, but I am guessing the wolves won't find out he joined them until the next night so perhaps he is telling them not to go for him today? I know SS can't undo their skill once they choose to do it but maybe I'm wrong about GR
Thu 10:27

No visits to Aragorn, honestly thought he would be the one to die after being admitted being healed
WitchKing Thu 10:27

@Frodo - what did your hobbit eyes see?
Legolas Thu 10:27

so you think Aragorn got SS'ed?
Frodo Thu 10:27

Eowyn is such an odd death, if my original suspect list is correct she wasn't SS but maybe I've missed somethin
WitchKing Thu 10:28

(Why wasn't Lego a seer so i could ask what his elf eyes saw??)
Frodo Thu 10:28

Nobody visited Aragorn
Legolas Thu 10:28

I'm just super confused, when you GR, you see the role next round?
Thu 10:28

ah ok
Thu 10:29

I'm still GR like nothing happened
Frodo Thu 10:29

Yeah GR was the first role I ever had, I got the role in the morning for use the next night
Legolas Thu 10:29

but SS is a vote right?
Thu 10:29

sry was never wolf
Thu 10:29

while GR is a choice
Thu 10:29

like visting someone as harlot
WitchKing Thu 10:30

SS is a choice in addition to voting
Frodo Thu 10:30

Ss had a shift button and I remember because I was drunk and pressed it thinking it would be fun to use my skill, by the time I regretted it it was not able to undo ... xD...
Legolas Thu 10:30

you can change harlot targets during the night
WitchKing Thu 10:30

The "shift" button appears next to your own name
Legolas Thu 10:31

I was 100% sure today at 11am I would either be seer or wolf
Frodo Thu 10:31

Ahh I see, but I've never tried undoing a Harlot or seer check etc.. only changing my mind about who to check
Legolas Thu 10:32

I think the problem is as harlot you have mutliple buttons, but I'm not sure if you can go back to visit no person
WitchKing Thu 10:32

Tsk, Lego - you told Gothmog yesterday that GR was easy and nothing to get confused about ;)
Legolas Thu 10:32

I take that back :D
WitchKing Thu 10:32

Seems like its not complicated after all
Legolas Thu 10:33

it was a ruse anyway
Thu 10:33

I wanted to get gothmog without reveal
Merry Thu 10:33

Frodo what do you mean about Aragorn admitting being healed?
WitchKing Thu 10:33

Yesterday Elrond confirmed he healed Aragorn the previous night
Legolas Thu 10:34

yes
Frodo Thu 10:34

Elrond can't heal the same person two days in a row, Aragon was healed yesterday so he should have been prime target today
WitchKing Thu 10:34

So he wouldn't be able to do so again tonight
Merry Thu 10:34

Do you mean protected?
Frodo Thu 10:35

Oh yeah sorry I play another game where it's healed !
Thu 10:35

Protected :P
Merry Thu 10:35

Ok
WitchKing Thu 10:36

Nuances
Thu 10:36

Where's Sauron
Thu 10:37

I wanna know what Gollum was
Merry Thu 10:37

He's checking how to talk as Sauron?
Legolas Thu 10:38

he's still training in front of the mirror
Thu 10:38

if grima is a wolf, Sauron would be the best SS target
Thu 10:39

then they can confirm their story
WitchKing Thu 10:41

Hence why I said Elrond should protect Sauron last night
Legolas Thu 10:41

I think the chances of Grima saying that I'm a wolf are 780-80%
WitchKing Thu 10:41

I hope he did... :/
Legolas Thu 10:41

*70
Thu 10:42

the more gollum talked the more I believed him
Merry Thu 10:42

I wonder what a wolf Sauron would say today.. Assuming Sauron was real yesterday
Frodo Thu 10:43

Interesting... what about gothmog? People give away too much outside. I am sure he was SS
Legolas Thu 10:43

WitchKing Wed 22:46 the sad thing is, I'm actually starting to believe Gollum
Thu 10:43

that's when I decided to go for the gravedigg
Frodo Thu 10:43

And if a GR becomes wolf, do they see the Wolf list right away or have to wait for nightfall I wonder?
Merry Thu 10:44

Graverobb you mean?
Legolas Thu 10:44

yes
Merry Thu 10:44

I reckon they would have to wait until following night, just guess
WitchKing Thu 10:44

Frodo - maybe they get a message at the start of the day
Legolas Thu 10:45

meh wanted to do this as some kind of learning experience. I also wanted to know if Graverobb comes before or after seer
WitchKing Thu 10:45

Like the wolves do at the start of the game
Legolas Thu 10:45

I assumed it's before the seer
Thu 10:45

now I have an 80% chance to getting lynched before I can learn anything
Merry Thu 10:47

Lego you keep saying you're getting killed
Thu 10:48

I wish voting would open, I want to kill someone:/
Thu 10:50

Frodo - do you think Eowyn was a villager the wolves killed? And Pippin was the SS?
Legolas Thu 10:50

Merry I beleive in Gollum telling the truth, he did it bad, but I found his reaction yesterday after it was obvious he's gonna die kinda genuine
Thu 10:51

he seemed really sad that he messed up his role
Merry Thu 10:51

Lego - you think goth + frodo are wolves then?
Legolas Thu 10:51

I'm still confused by his Forso is Harlot, ehm no Wolf play, I think it's the part that cost him his life
Thu 10:52

I just don't trust grima
Thu 10:52

this dude is inactive for almost 2 days, then comes back claims Seer and everyone believes him
Thu 10:53

he didn't say sh*t before he was put on trail
Thu 10:53

I mean for a wolf, the seer role with the mess up from gollum is probably the easiest counterclaim in the world
Thu 10:54

that's why I wanted to go for goth
Thu 10:54

he was the OBVIOUS kill
Thu 10:55

gollum was 50/50 on our most important rol
Moderator

Voting is now open to lynch the next werewolf
Moderator

Legolas votes to put Gothmog on trial
Moderator

Merry votes to put Gothmog on trial
Legolas Thu 10:56

STOP STOP full back
Merry Thu 10:56

Was grima put on trial? I don't think he was
Legolas Thu 10:56

I'M SEER NOW!!!!
Thu 10:56

I'm fking seer
Thu 10:56

after the vote was enabled
Moderator

WitchKing votes to put Legolas on trial
Merry Thu 10:56

Haha
WitchKing Thu 10:57

Oh, what? O.o
Thu 10:57

Hmmmm
Merry Thu 10:57

So grima+frodo wolves then?
Legolas Thu 10:57

my role was updated when the vote switched
WitchKing Thu 10:57

Let's wait to hear from Sauron then
Frodo Thu 10:57

Yeah why so shakey? Shouldn't you be confident that you'll come up village if you're village :/
Thu 10:58

Oh woops my chat hadn't refreshed there
Legolas Thu 10:58

Gollum was the fking seer, I fking knew it!
Thu 10:58

yessssssssssssss
Merry Thu 10:59

Who is the other wolf?
Legolas Thu 10:59

the third you mean
Thu 10:59

Goth, frodo + mhh
Merry Thu 10:59

Yea, grima+frodo+ someone
WitchKing Thu 10:59

If Lego is telling the truth, Grima, Goth and Frodo
Legolas Thu 10:59

oh my god! I'm so happy right now
Frodo Thu 10:59

Well Gollum was definitely not seer, which means you've taken wolf role
Merry Thu 11:00

So which one is most likely SS now..
Legolas Thu 11:00

let's hear from sauron, I hope he was protected
Frodo Thu 11:00

If I hadn't been on his hitlist I probably would believed him over inactive Grima too but it's similar to 36 that way
Merry Thu 11:00

Maybe goth was BH?
Legolas Thu 11:00

I'm gonna eat something right now, and try to get that creepy smile from my face :D
Thu 11:01

made a printscreen, just for sure :D
Frodo Thu 11:01

Legolas you were 100% sure on gothmog being SS yesterday(I think this also) so why are you scared Sauron was SSed ?
Thu 11:02

We can all make printscreens though can't we
Moderator

Merry votes to put Grima on trial
Legolas Thu 11:02

Frodo, I was sure of goth because of the fact he claimed the same role
Thu 11:03

that's IT
Thu 11:03

I'm so happy right now, see you later
Frodo Thu 11:03

Ahh ok I thought it was you who compared the texts
Merry Thu 11:03

Lol
Legolas Thu 11:04

no that was merry
Moderator

Frodo votes to put Legolas on trial
Legolas Thu 11:04

afk now
Frodo Thu 11:04

Sadly I know you Gollum cannot have been seer unless he messed something up
Merry Thu 11:04

Witch you think Lego is lying then? Since you voted him
WitchKing Thu 11:07

I don't know at this point... it's believable that he was GR since I doubt a fake claim would have reacted at the time the vote opened but at the same time I want to hear Edgar Sauron has to say
Thu 11:07

Hear what*
Thu 11:08

But i voted before i saw his seer claim, mainly to balance the vote
Merry Thu 11:08

I see
Frodo Thu 11:11

Only I and Grima can know for sure, but damn that story was sketchy with him first claiming nothing happened. I think perhaps he changed the story incase we ask the mod
Merry Thu 11:11

Well I tend to believe Lego right now and reason for killing Eowyn was to make us think SS ability had been used
Thu 11:12

The finer details of the game like exactly when GR gets his role do leave even more guess work for players
Thu 11:17

*Believing Lego then we should pick who is most likely SS from Grima (fake seer), Goth (fake GR as same role as Lego) and Frodo (wolf as per real Seer Gollum). Goth claimed some ability day 2 and said it didn't work night 1.. Well if he was SS there would be nobody to SS into? But also if he was BH then perhaps he just didn't notice list of players that he could check, I've never had role so don't know how easy to miss. I would have thought other wolves could have said something as well to help..
Thu 11:18

**If Lego is lying and is really a wolf after taking the fake seer gollum ability then we have more of a problem :/
WitchKing Thu 11:37

My concern is that, if Frodo is lying then was Pippin the second Harlot?
Legolas Thu 11:38

he was top of the list
Thu 11:38

could have been luck
WitchKing Thu 11:39

Could have been
Thu 11:39

Annoying if so
Legolas Thu 11:41

Witch King, I think you are the linchpin of us winning this, so I will try to address you a bit. If you think I'm a wolf, my play to "save" the wolf gollum would have been waaaay to agressive, since Werevoles can easily go with 2 ppl. The roles were already revealed when I went for goth, it was you and sauron who pushed for the reveals. I switched this night because I asked other ppl. when a GR gets his abilities. And I was told I become seer the first night, and can check someone the second night. If I waited for Sauron it would be 2 nights for me to find the 3rd wolf.
Thu 11:42

Two nights from now on is way too late into the game, and I can't be saved two times in a row
WitchKing Thu 11:44

Well, it's easy enough to test you, we just get a protected harlot (or both harlots if protector wants to protect you) to check your target
Moderator

WitchKing votes to put Merry on trial
WitchKing Thu 11:45

Let's balance it evenly
Legolas Thu 11:47

Witch the problem is the protector can't protect me and the harlot
Thu 11:47

my hope is in sauron, and I really really hope he wasn't shapeshifted
Thu 11:53

I'm so hyped right now, I just want Sauron or Aragon to come online
WitchKing Thu 11:56

If Sauron agrees with you then we know who the wolves are: Frodo, Grima and Gothmog
Legolas Thu 12:01

Since an hour I'm spinning scenarios in my head how this could still go wrong for the village
Thu 12:01

I'm so enthusiastic right now
Thu 12:06

I have two ppl. who I know lied, Goth because I'm the robber, and Grima, because I'm the seer :D then Gollum said frodo, none of the 3 ppl. died. So the shapeshift was either done round 1 with pippin or it's still available
Thu 12:06

now the big question is who's the SS
Frodo Thu 12:33

Now I'm not sure about Goth since it could have been you faking GR and he just being a new player, which would make Sauron innocent too and no clues as to who the wolves could be. Unless they got the seer night 1 and two wolves claimed it in order for one to look trusted. I just know for sure that Gollum was not a seer for I was guilty to him
Thu 12:35

If you were truly GR, then you've joined the wolves, and Gothmog was the false GR claim and is also a wolf. Sauron protected Gothmog desperately yesterday over Gollum and I don't know why, unless he is SS and tried to save him an extra night, but then why hasn't he used it then?
Thu 12:37

If Eowyn was a wolf I'm missing something here because these 3 fit together too well.
WitchKing Thu 12:37

If Sauron is a wolf, who is GD?
Frodo Thu 12:38

Yesterday I really thought it'd be Eowyn hence my joking "wait for Eowyn to come out and claim GD :P" and she also joked that but claimed villager, so I guess Pippin
Thu 12:38

Unless Eowyn was laying low? But that's too complicated. Sauron must be real, but maybe misguided in protecting Gothmog?
Thu 12:40

Do you remember that "we are GR/GD situation" but he trusted Goth 100% without any reason to
Thu 12:40

If Goth is village, Legolas was always a wolf
Thu 12:41

But I don't buy it, cause that role thing was too odd. I guess all we can do is wait for the rest
Legolas Thu 12:41

I was switched to Wolf, it would be the most stupid idea ever to announce that I tried to switch
Frodo Thu 12:42

I thought the same thing !
Thu 12:42

But you claimed that it failed....
Legolas Thu 12:42

yes but you were right
Thu 12:43

you can't undo a switch
Thu 12:43

like you said with SS
Frodo Thu 12:43

At the time it felt like "wolves, don't frame me, I joined you!" and now you're Seer after I was gonna email mod about whether it can be undone
WitchKing Thu 12:43

Frodo - my problem with that is... if Sauron was protecting Gothmog then I believe Gollum is innocent and so you're a wolf... but then there was no second harlot claim so it must have been Pippin
Thu 12:43

But then Pippin couldn't be GD
Frodo Thu 12:44

I believed both Gollum and Gothmog were wolves so that situation did confuse me, at the time I thought SS already used the skill so there was no risk killing the BH
WitchKing Thu 12:44

Tbh, it would be pretty stupid to announce that you switched into the seer to
Thu 12:44

Because it makes you a wolf target
Thu 12:45

Better would have been to keep quiet unless a wolf actually tried to frame you and then come out as seer
Frodo Thu 12:45

I think it couldn't be more obvious that he's switched sides
WitchKing Thu 12:45

And the wolves would realise you'd switched
Legolas Thu 12:45

Witchking, my switch confirmed all the wolves, we don't need a seer
Frodo Thu 12:46

Yeah that's what he should have done
WitchKing Thu 12:46

I think we should all shut up until Sauron appears
Legolas Thu 12:48

Witching is probably right, the moment I got seer, I knew I was right. And I'm not sure what GD reads if the role got stolen
WitchKing Thu 12:50

They'll read the role, I'm certain
Thu 12:51

The dead player doesn't lose their role, it's more GraveCopier than GraveRobber
Legolas Thu 12:51

ok
Thu 12:52

and I don't think I make myself more of a target for wolves, I'm the dude pushing since ages. I can't get a bigger target für Frodo, gorth and grimma
Thu 12:53

I just need the village to trust me, and we win
Aragorn Thu 13:42

omg omggggggg yo
Thu 13:43

im on earlier than usual cause i wanted to check who died and now i gotta say something
Merry Thu 13:43

Hit me
Aragorn Thu 13:43

i watched lego last night and he was visited by grima
Thu 13:43

so grima's the real seer
Thu 13:44

and gollum was a wolf
Thu 13:44

and now lil lego is a wolf
Moderator

Merry votes to put Aragorn on trial
Merry Thu 13:45

You liar!
Aragorn Thu 13:46

,,,,,, how am i a liar ????
Legolas Thu 13:46

w8
Aragorn Thu 13:46

dude you can't vote me and say "you liar!" without explaining lmao it just makes u look like a wolf who feels threatened
Legolas Thu 13:46

means Grima is BH
Aragorn Thu 13:47

or it could mean you're a wolf lmao
Legolas Thu 13:47

dude w8 with shredding each other to pieces
Thu 13:47

we w8 for sauron
Aragorn Thu 13:47

oh lmao now i realize what w8 is
Moderator

Merry votes to put Grima on trial
Legolas Thu 13:48

I get both you your reaction guys
Merry Thu 13:48

I was toying with you Aragorn
Aragorn Thu 13:48

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Legolas Thu 13:48

and I suspected it, because Grima had to calculate that he's probably beeing observed
Thu 13:49

and it would be a good role to stay out of sight
Moderator

Merry votes to put Frodo on trial
Legolas Thu 13:49

like charlotte did in 42
Thu 13:49

we need to lynch the shapeshifter if possible
Moderator

Merry votes to put Gothmog on trial
Merry Thu 13:50

Frodo was keen to kill goth yesterday, he mentioned it several times
Thu 13:50

Wolf on wolf to gain trust?
Legolas Thu 13:50

Aragorn it's good that you are skeptic, so lets wait for Sauron to shred each other to peaces
Thu 13:50

*pieces
Thu 13:51

merry but this would mean, frodo is the SS
Thu 13:51

because I think it would be bad if they sacrifice their SS
Merry Thu 13:51

If you believe goth confusion about abilities right?
Thu 13:52

So Goth just normal wolf?
Legolas Thu 13:52

I found his first statement about it a bit mhhh too dramatic
Thu 13:53

you remember his "I can't play my role and vilage gets shred to pieces" my first reaction was "chill dude, no one died"
Merry Thu 13:54

What do you think Aragorn? Who are the wolves?
Legolas Thu 13:59

Gothmog Tue 11:48 Well, if you have something you can do at night while the wolves are murdering our faces, how do you do it? Cause I tried typing a bunch of different things and it all just vanished And I'm not a total idiot thanks
Merry Thu 14:00

Mm
Frodo Thu 14:00

That really was weird
Legolas Thu 14:00

there was no murdering faces at all
Thu 14:00

not one person died
Frodo Thu 14:01

But nobody believes him, so now it sounds like you're pushing for unneeded self confirmation since he was your counterclaim
Thu 14:01

Pretty sure Gothmog is guaranteed wolf lynch
Thu 14:02

Unless really the GR...
Legolas Thu 14:05

when was Sauron online yesterday?
Thu 14:05

so how long do we have to wait until we can progress
Thu 14:16

Sauron was on yesterday around 2 hours from now
WitchKing Thu 14:19

Let's lynch: (1) Grima (2) Legolas (3) Gorthmog (4) Frodo (5) Merry
Thu 14:19

That way were always almost certainly lynching a wolf every two nights
Legolas Thu 14:21

we will win before merry
Thu 14:21

but I see the reasoning in your plan
Merry Thu 14:22

Who to kill assuming sauron comes back and says gollum was seer?
Legolas Thu 14:22

I'm still optimistic that Sauron will clear it up, I hope Elrond prected him
Thu 14:22

Grima visited me
Thu 14:23

Gothmog or Frodo
WitchKing Thu 14:23

^ this
Legolas Thu 14:23

I think Frodo is a really good player
Thu 14:24

So I'm most afraid of him, since I wouldn't have ever suspected him before gollum came out
WitchKing Thu 14:24

I'd like to hear what Grima has to say now
Merry Thu 14:24

Do you think goth had an ability?
Thu 14:24

Or just plain wolf, lying on day 2
Legolas Thu 14:24

it was so obvious, maybe bait? or he was actually ss'ed
WitchKing Thu 14:25

Or Lego is lying ;)
Legolas Thu 14:25

he could have been harlot, who got ss'ed by pippin shapeshifter
Thu 14:25

which frees up a harlot slot for Frodo
Merry Thu 14:25

Yes
WitchKing Thu 14:26

Unlikely
Legolas Thu 14:26

afters this game, you will trust me forever Witchking :)
WitchKing Thu 14:27

I never trust anyone :p
Legolas Thu 14:28

oh well then at least you will find a true Villager buddy in me for all other games to come :D
Thu 14:28

I think after my last 2 games, I'm easy to spot
WitchKing Thu 14:29

You need to learn how to change your play style on a whim!
Legolas Thu 14:30

I'm bad at that, that's why I'm know as a trustworthy villager in my groups :)
Thu 14:30

so when I got batshit crazy angry, it's authentic^^
WitchKing Thu 14:38

Well, let's say I believe you, we'll lynch Gothmog before you then?
Thu 14:38

Grima, Goth, Lego Frodo, Merry
Legolas Thu 14:52

I get a win if I die still right? :P
WitchKing Thu 14:57

Yes
Frodo Thu 15:16

Why is the probable seer first on your kill list?
Legolas Thu 15:18

I said the same for gollum, and you guys didn't care \o/ ;)
Frodo Thu 15:19

Gollum named me a wolf which meant he wasn't the seer for me
Legolas Thu 15:19

but I agree he could be more down the list, I would probably kill you first, since you're the scariest player of the 3 in my opinion. So I agree with you but it's probably still not what you wanted to hear
Frodo Thu 15:20

Because I realised you joined the wolves? :D
WitchKing Thu 15:20

Frodo - it's because I figured that if Grima is the seer we don't need him/her/it anymore, and if not then it's a good one to get rid of first
Legolas Thu 15:21

Frodo I don't join the losing team sry
WitchKing Thu 15:21

The idea is we can't take out all of one team first, we have to stagger it
Frodo Thu 15:21

Really? I'm still not completely sure who the wolves are so I'd like a seer
Thu 15:22

I've always wondered what would happen if two wolves claimed seer in a game, probably wasn't this game since only 1 guy was in the graveyard but :D If Grima was a wolf his two village checks are odd
Thu 15:23

I stll think Gollum, Gothmog and Sauron +newly joined Legolas though
Thu 15:23

There's so much evidence
Legolas Thu 15:23

Witchking, look frodo is Anticipating sauron ;)
Thu 15:23

he's already on the list, because he will confirm it :)
WitchKing Thu 15:23

@Frodo - if Grima is the seer then it's Gollum, Lego, Gothmog,
Thu 15:24

One other, hmmm
Frodo Thu 15:24

What happened to the true GR then?
Legolas Thu 15:24

He's speaking all the time here
WitchKing Thu 15:24

Lego was and took Wolf fromGollum
Frodo Thu 15:25

Yeah I think so too, he slipped up bad this morning with the story
Legolas Thu 15:25

Witchking, mark my words how Fordo mentioned sauron in his list ;)
WitchKing Thu 15:25

Or he's always been a wolf, but idk
Thu 15:25

That leaves the third spot open still
Frodo Thu 15:25

Legolas you sure are awaiting Sauron with a suspicious amount of trust
Legolas Thu 15:26

I find out funny that you start throwing shade on sauron, he was out of the question so far
Frodo Thu 15:26

If Sauron did find Gollum is a wolf then I'm not sure who the last one is going to be
Thu 15:26

Maybe Eowyn after all, and SSed somewhere
Legolas Thu 15:28

I have trust in Sauron because I know my roles, if Sauron says Gollum is Wolf I made some big logical error along the way in my todays toughts
Thu 15:31

if Sauron says Gollum was some Villager role made a big misplay. Like gothmog fake claiming or something
Thu 15:32

*IF Sauron says Gollum's a wolf
Thu 15:32

in my head there is yet no possiblity that Sauron is not GD
WitchKing Thu 15:32

What if I told you that you've been lied to all along and Sauron was never GD - I'm GD and I checked Gollum last night and he's a wolf
Thu 15:33

Defend against that, wolf!
Legolas Thu 15:33

*g* nope
Thu 15:33

but nice try
WitchKing Thu 15:33

Meh, worth a try :p
Legolas Thu 15:34

I'm like one of those british inventors, they do amazing stuff, and then some Murican comes and runs away with it because they can sell it better to other ppl.
Thu 15:36

I sold my knowledge in here pretty bad yesterday
Thu 15:37

I went from "Legolas is totally villager" to "that's super fishy lego" within an hour. I still think I was technically right but I made lots of errors along the way explaining my reasoning
Elrond Thu 15:45

Hello!
Legolas Thu 15:45

hey Elrond
WitchKing Thu 15:46

Elrond, who did you protect?
Elrond Thu 15:48

Last night I made a calculated but selfish move. People were pushing for me to protect Sauron, but I didn't because I was still not entirely sure of his role and the wolves seem very cautious if they think someone will be protected/watched. I was still wary of Legolas, so I protected myself.
Thu 15:48

Quite frankly, I find it weird how cautious the wolves are being.
WitchKing Thu 15:48

Nooooooo :(
Thu 15:49

Damn, that means we can't automatically trust Sauron
Elrond Thu 15:49

If the trap had worked, with Aragorn watching me, only one of the wolves would show up as visiting me. Only one would take the blame. But they didn't risk it.
Legolas Thu 15:49

but then eowyn would need to be the ss
WitchKing Thu 15:50

Yes, it's possible
Legolas Thu 15:51

my worry right now is: did gothmog make an error
Thu 15:52

because we can only lose this if a villager screwed up
Thu 15:54

we're 6:3 right now, we know all the wolves, this must be a win.
Elrond Thu 16:04

Wait, refresh my memory. Who do you think are the wolves?
Legolas Thu 16:05

grima = wrong seer, Gothmog = not GR, Frodo = confirmed by dead true seer
Thu 16:06

There is a lot to read up elrond: TLDR I graverobbed gollum and I'm seer now
Elrond Thu 16:06

I read it, I just wanted a quick refresher because I'm too lazy to go up and find what you think.
Legolas Thu 16:08

maybe to mention, I think Grima reveal yesterday was really bad and lazy, it only worked because the true seer did so many mistakes
Elrond Thu 16:08

The only thing I'm wary of is Frodo supposedly being a wolf. The wolves seem to be cautious and hesitant because they don't want people to know who they are, and yet Frodo claimed harlot and if he is a wolf, that means he was guessing and risking a lot.
Moderator

Elrond votes to put Gothmog on trial
Legolas Thu 16:10

Elrond not if Pippin was the harlot
WitchKing Thu 16:11

We've not really heard from Gothmog to defend himself
Thu 16:11

Which is a bit strange
Legolas Thu 16:11

I mean he's top of the list Grima is BH checks him first
Thu 16:11

Witch Gothmog didn't even put up a defense yesterday
Thu 16:11

he wrote "lol"
Thu 16:12

btw. Grimas reads were 2 times villager
Thu 16:12

Merry and Witchking, perfect to gain trust, and says absolutely nothing
Thu 16:13

of course he knows those two are villagers, he gains trust like this much faster
Thu 16:15

his reads won't offend anyone, or make anyone doubt
WitchKing Thu 16:15

So much about this game messes with my head
Legolas Thu 16:17

yeah and my bad play yesterday is the reason for it :(
Merry Thu 16:17

How does the GR role work at night Lego, you can click against any of the dead's names?
Legolas Thu 16:18

can I answer that, or is that too meta?
Thu 16:18

Just want to stay fair, Witchking opinion?
Merry Thu 16:19

Course fair
Thu 16:19

Its like asking how seer works, you can select who you want to check
WitchKing Thu 16:20

*shrugs* there is/was a bug that let GD Lynch dead people but I think that was fixed
Thu 16:20

So idk
Frodo Thu 16:21

Why not just say yes? His hesitation is so sketchy. Although I do believe he was GR (turned wolf ;D)
Legolas Thu 16:21

ok what I will say is, the process of selecting someone is quite straight forward, and if noone is dead also a new player should understand that there is nothing to do for him, which totally contradicts goth's Start of the game
Frodo Thu 16:22

Elrond I also find their cautiousness odd, I thought one of the active roles would be killed for sure and yet!
WitchKing Thu 16:22

Sauron is awfully quiet
Legolas Thu 16:22

I can go through the details what happened tonight, but I think it falls under the rule that you should not post Role descriptions
Merry Thu 16:23

So you see list of dead in graveyard and you can click against one name and can change mind also?
Legolas Thu 16:23

Frodo so I'm shady because I don't want to ruin the game? comon
Frodo Thu 16:23

Proving you are GR doesn't proove you are Seer though...
Thu 16:23

Gollum was a false seer
Legolas Thu 16:24

correct but it makes Goth a liar
Frodo Thu 16:24

You even said this morning that you planned to join wolves as revenge for yesterday
Legolas Thu 16:24

no, I said I was totally ready to be a wolf when I'm wrong with the gollum call
Frodo Thu 16:24

You gave everything away
Legolas Thu 16:25

but I described already why I thought Gollum is the real one
Frodo Thu 16:25

I would never have suspected you if you'd said nothing at all this morning
Legolas Thu 16:25

everyone would have gone "WTF If I checked you tomorrow and said you're a wolf"
Frodo Thu 16:26

What are you even saying.. xD
Legolas Thu 16:27

You're a very good player
Thu 16:28

WitchKing Sauron wasn't online before around this time yesterday
Frodo Thu 16:31

Are you admitting my theory is correct ? :O
Legolas Thu 16:32

no, I say you do all the right things now to distract
Thu 16:32

going after missing words, small erros in wording etc. .
Merry Thu 16:33

Lego are you wanting to kill frodo or goth first?
Legolas Thu 16:33

I think frodo is their best player by a wide margin
Thu 16:34

he's the only one who blends in
Thu 16:34

and the one I would have never suspected
Thu 16:34

I think gollum would be alive if he found grima or Goth
Merry Thu 16:35

It's about killing who you think is SS now though
Frodo Thu 16:35

Wolves always want rid of the ones paying the most attention. It was a mistake for him to try getting rid of me in daytime instead since now you can't kill me without revealing Gollum lied
Thu 16:36

Gollum was definitely Bloodhound, and now you are one too
Legolas Thu 16:37

if I changed sides, how do you explain that I go for goth?
Merry Thu 16:37

Who are you saying are the wolves frodo? Lego, gollum, goth and ?
Legolas Thu 16:38

it makes no sense, he has no answer
Merry Thu 16:38

You are both going for goth
Legolas Thu 16:38

because I stayed on the same train
Merry Thu 16:38

Wolf on wolf either way
Frodo Thu 16:38

Not 100% sure yet
Thu 16:40

Legolas was constantly saying he's waiting for Sauron and yesterday Sauron was in some odd unspoken partnership with Gothmog, so I'm 90% sure it's gonna be him
Legolas Thu 16:40

Merry his problem is: he cant go for Merry, because Grima confirmed you, he can't go for Elrond because he's confirmed to, Sauron got no counter claim, Witchking was confirmed by grima and Aragorn was the first harlot
Thu 16:41

he can't get the 3 ppl. together
Thu 16:41

the third one will contradict his points
Frodo Thu 16:42

Check: Day 3: 19:28 onwards
Legolas Thu 16:42

Grima "checked" them into a corner
Thu 16:43

because he confirmed 2 vanilla villagers
Merry Thu 16:43

Frodo who did you visit each night again?
Frodo Thu 16:43

That scene with the Sauron+Gothmog unspoken bond of being GR/GD but for some reason Sauron didn't need Goth to say his role and proove himself
Thu 16:44

Legolas, Aragorn, Aragorn
Thu 16:45

I just remembered Sauron was suspected on day 1, and set himself up to be either Seer/GD or GR. I had the theory on that day that he was waiting to see what was left to claim out of the three but..
Legolas Thu 16:45

Merry I frogot he needs 4 wolves, since in his theory I changed sides
Frodo Thu 16:45

He will come and confirm it himself soon I'm sure
Thu 16:46

Whether real or fake
Merry Thu 16:46

Who confirm what?
Frodo Thu 16:46

Even if he says Gollum was a wolf I may still doubt him though
Thu 16:46

I'm 90% sure it's Sauron
Merry Thu 16:47

Ok
Frodo Thu 16:47

I think Eowyn was just a throw-off
Legolas Thu 16:47

so in frodos theory we got: Sauron, Goth and... ?
Merry Thu 16:47

You
Legolas Thu 16:48

he needs 4
Frodo Thu 16:48

Gollum for definite, why he was sacrificed I'm not sure
Legolas Thu 16:48

he says I changed side
Merry Thu 16:48

I know it's 4
Frodo Thu 16:48

I might be wrong about Sauron though, the Gollum thing is still odd
Legolas Thu 16:49

anyone beside frodo suspicious of the not counterclaimed GD Sauron?
Frodo Thu 16:49

Surely he didn't think it through so far that they kill the BH purposely for GR to take so he can be confirmed by a harlot? That would be too crazy xD
Sauron Thu 16:49

Good morning. Idk what you people were talking about but quit wasting your time :D
Frodo Thu 16:49

Finally
Legolas Thu 16:49

hey
Sauron Thu 16:49

Grima Frodo Gothmog 3 wolves
Legolas Thu 16:49

bingo
Sauron Thu 16:50

Even if Legolas is a fking God and somehow a wolf we still win.
Frodo Thu 16:50

Bingo indeed, Sauron, Gothmog, Gollum +Lego wolves :O
Merry Thu 16:50

so Sauron who do you think is most likely SS?
Sauron Thu 16:50

Pippin is a harlot.
Thu 16:50

I have no idea who is the SS
Moderator

Sauron votes to put Gothmog on trial
Frodo Thu 16:51

Oh yeah, we need proof you weren't SS'd
Legolas Thu 16:51

Gothmog or Frodo?
Merry Thu 16:51

you don't? well Grima visited Lego as per Aragorn
Frodo Thu 16:51

Although a wolf either way
Sauron Thu 16:51

Gollum is the seer unfortunately.
Legolas Thu 16:51

yes grima is the BH, that's why his play worked, or he tought it could work
Sauron Thu 16:52

Gothmog has a night role
Merry Thu 16:52

both wolves and villagers are agreed that Goth is lynched tonight
Sauron Thu 16:52

Probably a SS
Thu 16:52

Btw he never changed :O
Merry Thu 16:52

it's nice when everyone agrees
Sauron Thu 16:52

Because Pippin should be the harlot then
Legolas Thu 16:52

that's why frodo could claim it without risk
Frodo Thu 16:52

Yeah I'm a bit wary that they'd throw away Gothmog this easily
Legolas Thu 16:52

they knew 1 was dead
Frodo Thu 16:53

Pippin is most likely the GD
Sauron Thu 16:53

Who voted for Merry and Legolas? Frodo played the protector visiting Aragorn play well
Frodo Thu 16:53

How can anyone know if he died first night?
Thu 16:53

The BH wouldn't know until the morning
Legolas Thu 16:53

you get your story mixed up
Sauron Thu 16:53

Yo Frodo quit struggling xD, you are busted
Legolas Thu 16:53

pippin was killed second night
Frodo Thu 16:53

Sauron you should pay more attention to the game, I am not protector!
Legolas Thu 16:54

you start slacking dude
Thu 16:54

first night was no lynch, busted!
Frodo Thu 16:54

I haven't slipped up whatsoever, saying so only makes the villagers around you believe that I did rather than think for themselves
Sauron Thu 16:54

I never said you were protector xD, I said you played "the protector visiting Aragorn" well
Legolas Thu 16:54

pippin died second night
Sauron Thu 16:54

As a harlot
Frodo Thu 16:54

I knew Sauron would put up a good fight, I've been wolf with him before :D
Sauron Thu 16:54

Look doesn't matter if slip up whatsoever.
Thu 16:55

Enna you are dead :D Or may be not Enna if I am wrong
Legolas Thu 16:55

need to go, will be back in around 2 hours.
Thu 16:55

cya then
Frodo Thu 16:55

Only because you have two active wolves on me
Thu 16:55

I hope the rest will see through the lies
Sauron Thu 16:56

Gothmog Frodo Grima. Gothmog has a complicated role and Grima is BH and Frodo is likely a normal werewolf
Merry Thu 16:56

who is still voting on me
Thu 16:56

witch?
Sauron Thu 16:56

No idea I just got here but I am still the GraveDigger
Frodo Thu 16:56

You are far too good at being wolf
Sauron Thu 16:56

Frodo and Grima are now 2 CONFIRMED wolf.
Thu 16:57

Gothmog 99.99% unless Legolas is a fking God but no
Frodo Thu 16:57

Sauron and Legolas are now 2 CONFIRMED wolf~
Thu 16:58

3rd one may have SSed out after all, since they're killing Gothmog
Merry Thu 16:58

lego was ok with switching sides last night
Thu 16:58

half attempted backstabbing!
Legolas Thu 16:59

on mobile: you wouldn't listen :((((((((
Merry Thu 17:00

i voted goth all along, but not all for right reason it seems
WitchKing Thu 17:00

Argh
Thu 17:00

It's just to convenient
Sauron Thu 17:00

How am I confirmed wolf with Legolas LOL
Thu 17:01

I spent all day fighting him and insisted on voting out Gollum
Frodo Thu 17:01

Because Gollum was 100% wolf, I was on his list incorrectly
Thu 17:01

Yeah Legolas only took Gollum's role last night and joined you
Sauron Thu 17:01

So wolf team is me Gollum and Legolas? ROFL
Frodo Thu 17:02

He messed up his story this morning if you read the whole thing. Or do you not need to? Because you're a wolf?
Sauron Thu 17:02

The wolves team, I will repeat again: Frodo, Gothmog, and Grima
Frodo Thu 17:03

You might need to do better than LOLs and ROFLs when there's a chatlog of evidence
Sauron Thu 17:03

I didn't read that much. What I know is that he stole Gollum's role and got seer. Gollum is the seer
Thu 17:03

I am the Gravedigger
Thu 17:03

Grima is a wolf.
Frodo Thu 17:03

Exactly, he wasn;t seer so there, you're both confirmed wolves.
Sauron Thu 17:03

Frodo is a wolf.
Merry Thu 17:03

Poor old Goth, his own wolves killing him tonight along with villagers.
Sauron Thu 17:03

Gothmog is very likely a wolf
Frodo Thu 17:04

Yeah I'm seriously wondering about him now
Thu 17:04

But he definitely had a role and there are no roles left
Sauron Thu 17:04

I am using ROFL and LOL because I am laughing IRL :)
Thu 17:04

Yeah so he can stand beside you right?
WitchKing Thu 17:05

Frodo - do you think Sauron was shifted into last night?
Sauron Thu 17:05

Gothmog: Umm Idk, my guts are telling me that Frodo is not a wolf and Sauron is probably a wolf.
Thu 17:05

@WitchKing I am still the same guy xD
Frodo Thu 17:05

Unless the SS recognised the player and replicated him well, no
Sauron Thu 17:05

Smart Frodo
Thu 17:06

Now you just confirmed that I am the real GD lol
Frodo Thu 17:06

Nah, you've been odd since day 2 with your "I'm either GD/GR/Seer so don't lynch!"
WitchKing Thu 17:06

That's what i think, which means I should believe him as GD :/
Frodo Thu 17:06

Then the situation yesterday with Gothmog being your "brother"
Sauron Thu 17:06

I will repeat again: I checked Gollum, Gollum is the seer
Frodo Thu 17:06

Oh really? You said you checked Pippin earlier?
Sauron Thu 17:07

I never said I checked Pippin earlier LOL
Frodo Thu 17:07

You said he was harlot
Thu 17:07

He was GD wasn't he?
Sauron Thu 17:07

Well because you claimed harlot
WitchKing Thu 17:07

but I still think Frodo is not-wolf
Sauron Thu 17:07

NO
Thu 17:08

@WitchKing I checked Gollum and he is the seer
Thu 17:08

He said yesterday that Frodo is a wolf in a strange fashion so I didn't believe him
Thu 17:08

But he was telling the truth.
Frodo Thu 17:08

This was the best wolf strategy I've ever seen
Sauron Thu 17:08

His check yesterday said: Frodo is a wolf
Frodo Thu 17:09

You can have me and Grima killed by just sacrificing one wolf
WitchKing Thu 17:09

@Sauron - i believe you
Frodo Thu 17:09

While you kill two more in those two nights
Thu 17:09

You are a genius
Thu 17:09

You've won
Sauron Thu 17:09

Yeah so Grima is a liar
WitchKing Thu 17:09

That's why I'm going insane now
Sauron Thu 17:09

Frodo I am no genius, just a man digging graves to find out more truths :)
Frodo Thu 17:10

I need to work out how they pulled this off so I can try it if I'm a wolf next game xD
WitchKing Thu 17:11

Luck, more than judgement I would say
Sauron Thu 17:11

@WitchKing There is no way I am a wolf, starting from day 1 I have been attacking various people for trivial details. I don't have a team, everyone hated me
Thu 17:11

Don't let w.e Frodo says confuse you lol
Frodo Thu 17:12

Sauron is known to beg
Sauron Thu 17:12

Gonna repeat again: He said me Legolas and Gollum is in the same team. But I got Gollum lynched yesterday and I was fighting Legolas all day yesterday
Frodo Thu 17:12

Keep up - Legolas only joined you today
Legolas Thu 17:12

Aye
Frodo Thu 17:13

And you sacrificed Gollum to "proove" me and Grima
Thu 17:13

If everyone goes along with this, you've won in just a couple of days
Sauron Thu 17:13

ROFL when we could have easily lynched Gothmog?
Legolas Thu 17:13

Aye to me and sauronmfoghting. Im on mobilemtakes ages to send a msg
Frodo Thu 17:14

Actually they just need to lynch another villager tomorrow and the game will end tomorrow night
Thu 17:14

Now I really don't know about Gothmog
Thu 17:14

And an SS could have gone into anyone at this point
Sauron Thu 17:15

Or be Gothmog who still hasn't used his ability yet cuz he was confused xD
WitchKing Thu 17:15

You know what - either way this has been a fantastic game and all the wolves, whoever they are, did a good job
Sauron Thu 17:15

Yeah this is a good game but wolves lacked coordination :)
WitchKing Thu 17:16

I believe Frodo, so I'll be sticking with my belief that Gollum was a wolf
Sauron Thu 17:16

Yesterday night was either I die or Wolves lose
Thu 17:16

WHAT
Thu 17:16

I am the Gravedigger @WitchKing
Thu 17:17

I digged up Gollum's grave, I was so sure that Gollum is BH
Thu 17:17

But he turned out to be a seer.
Thu 17:18

Grima's checks sure gained a lot of trust from you and Merry but he is a false seer.
Frodo Thu 17:18

What if Grima has been SS'd? :/ that explains why they're not lynching him first even though he's "Confirmed"
Sauron Thu 17:18

Legolas stole Gollum's role and got a seer, he said that first thing in the morning
Frodo Thu 17:18

Since they only need 2 days worth of lynch and a night kill to win now
Sauron Thu 17:19

Grima can't be SS'd. Eowyn was the 3rd villager claim.
Frodo Thu 17:19

I know that, but why would you kill your own Gothmog? It must have been her
Elrond Thu 17:19

Okay, this is what I think we need to do unless we get new information. We need to lynch Gothmog today, Grima tomorrow, and then based on the results of those kills we can figure out if we need to lynch Frodo, Legolas, or Sauron.
Frodo Thu 17:19

Otherwise you have to spend 3 days to win
Sauron Thu 17:20

@Elrond If Gothmog and Grima are the wolves, the 3rd one is Frodo 100%
Frodo Thu 17:20

Elrond, Merry and Witch all sound like the same people as yesterday
Thu 17:20

and Sauron of course
Thu 17:21

Legolas and any suspects wouldn't be SS victims, but who knows maybe they needed rid of the real seer desperately
Sauron Thu 17:22

ROLE LIST: Seer: Gollum. Gravedigger: Sauron. Protector: Elrond. Graverobber: Legolas. Villagers: Merry, WitchKing, Eowyn. Harlots: Pippin, Aragon. Wolves: Frodo Grima and GOthmog
Frodo Thu 17:23

Eowyn sounded experienced though, guessing it's that second mod
Thu 17:23

so could easily be mimicking somebody
Thu 17:23

Sauron that's just from your wolf perspective and doesn't mean anything
Moderator

WitchKing votes to put Legolas on trial
Sauron Thu 17:23

Frodo is guessing who the others could be, Frodo is definitely that someone I know.
Frodo Thu 17:24

Yeah I know who you are too, from the start, and I knew you'd be dangerous if a wolf so I was watching out for odd stuff from day 2
Sauron Thu 17:24

Grima Frodo Gothmog are the 3 wolves. Frodo can't even give a better reason than: Oh yeah Sauron is dangerous so he is a wolf.
Elrond Thu 17:24

There's no way Eowyn is mimicking someone because of timezones.
WitchKing Thu 17:24

I'm sticking with my (probably wildly incorrect) gut feeling in the hope that you're all right and I'm wrong and you overrule my opinion
Sauron Thu 17:25

Frodo is just talking nonsense now
Frodo Thu 17:25

Wolves have too many voters
Sauron Thu 17:25

Me and Legolas? But there are 4 votes to Gothmog xD
Thu 17:26

Grima and Gothmog hasn't been online yet lol, poor Frodo. Or may be they were and I missed that O_o
Frodo Thu 17:26

You wouldn't kill Gothmog if he's really a wolf, I don't understand what happened with him and his skill etc but I'm sure the wolf is elsewhere
WitchKing Thu 17:27

@Sauron - assuming you're right, who is the SS?
Thu 17:27

Grima?
Sauron Thu 17:27

Yeah you are sure the wolf is elsewhere because Gothmog is your wolf buddy
WitchKing Thu 17:27

or Gothmog?
Sauron Thu 17:27

It is Gothmog
WitchKing Thu 17:27

okay
Frodo Thu 17:27

Like I said I'm not sure, Eowyn might be skilled in mimicking, or Grima who hasn't appeared yet
Sauron Thu 17:27

Very likely Gothmog
Elrond Thu 17:27

There's no way Eowyn is mimicking someone.
Frodo Thu 17:28

But why would they be scared of seer finding someone when it's already obvious by now?
Sauron Thu 17:28

He was the same Gothmog all along like I suspected, but after the Email, he realized that his role is evil so he didn't know what to do.
Frodo Thu 17:28

Maybe they are sacrficing their own Gothmog for trust
Thu 17:28

But that means spending more days to win so I don't really get it
Sauron Thu 17:28

And thus he started to ditch the village and had a dramatic change of personality
Thu 17:29

Eowyn is not mimicking anyone lol, same Eowyn all along
Frodo Thu 17:29

OMG
Elrond Thu 17:29

A wolf sacrificing one of their own is really dumb.
Frodo Thu 17:29

What if Original Gothmog really WAS the GD? And Pippin SS'd into him ?
Sauron Thu 17:29

@Elrond Yes
Frodo Thu 17:30

(Wait it was GR he claimed not GD, but still!)
Sauron Thu 17:30

As you can see, Frodo is trying to say more crazy theories
Frodo Thu 17:30

That is a confusing role, the true Gothmog from day 1 was confused about, and then the personality changed, smilies were gone
Elrond Thu 17:30

I was a wolf in 40 (I think) and I didn't know how much the SS could benefit the wolves and I claimed fake seer and sacrificed the SS. Worst decision ever.
Frodo Thu 17:30

Yeah you'll call it crazy as I figure it all out!
Sauron Thu 17:30

No one, and I will say it again, NO ONE can mimick me MWAHAHAHA
Thu 17:31

LOL personality changed and smiles were gone HAHA
Frodo Thu 17:31

Pippin was original wolf, is now Gothmog who was GD
Sauron Thu 17:31

Gothmog claimed Graverobber yesterday Frodo.
Frodo Thu 17:31

Why on earth SS so early though?
Thu 17:31

Yeah I guess he's a new plyer
Thu 17:32

Like I said , I've been SS once and I couldn't undo my SSing
Thu 17:32

And he didn't defend himself
Thu 17:32

And you're sacrificing him for more trust, unless planning to switch the votes over later
Moderator

Frodo votes to put Gothmog on trial
Sauron Thu 17:33

???
Thu 17:34

Frodo has lost her mind q_q. Her theories makes no sense now.
Thu 17:34

Gonna make lunch now and remember people: Frodo, Grima, and Gothmog are the 3 wolves.
Frodo Thu 17:35

What a childish attack to keep making references to who I am outside the game
Sauron Thu 17:35

I repeat: Gothmog Grima and Frodo are the 3 wolves.
Thu 17:35

They are busted because I am the GD.
Thu 17:35

I checked Gollum and he is a seer. I was wrong yesterday :(
Gothmog Thu 17:35

good morning
Thu 17:35

yet again you want me dead :-(
Thu 17:36

but hey I used my role tonight :D
Elrond Thu 17:36

Oh, really?
Gothmog Thu 17:36

Got no role from pippin
Sauron Thu 17:37

Sorry Frodo :( I am really childish. Not trying to offend you.
Gothmog Thu 17:37

so gollum might have been the real seer
Thu 17:37

sauron
Thu 17:37

Sauron Thu 18:05 Gothmog: Umm Idk, my guts are telling me that Frodo is not a wolf and Sauron is probably a wolf. @WitchKing I am still the same guy xD
Thu 17:37

did you try to quote me there?
Thu 17:37

I never said that
Sauron Thu 17:38

??? I am not a mastermind and I barely remember things you said yesterday
Gothmog Thu 17:38

Just wanted to make that clear
Sauron Thu 17:39

Look I really got to go. Don't let what Gothmog, Grima and Frodo says confuse you people.
Gothmog Thu 17:39

So now you have to go?
Sauron Thu 17:39

Gothmog Frodo Grima. THREE WOLVES.
Frodo Thu 17:39

How convenient
Sauron Thu 17:39

Because I need to make lunch.
Thu 17:39

My mom angry af :(
Thu 17:39

I can stay here forever and keep on repeating the same points to you people lol
Thu 17:40

Brb
Thu 17:40

I mean ttyl since it will be a bit long
Frodo Thu 17:40

So Gothmog you really are GR? o_O But Legolas..
Gothmog Thu 17:40

yes I'm GR
Elrond Thu 17:40

I love how as soon as Sauron says he has to go, the two people he accused don't believe he has to...
Gothmog Thu 17:40

let me talk abou legolas
Frodo Thu 17:40

I know riiight >_>
Elrond Thu 17:41

Like, wow, guys, I didn't know people had lives outside the game.
Gothmog Thu 17:41

Claiming GR so late wouldn't the real GR immediately come out?
Frodo Thu 17:42

Pretty sure if you were accused it'd look like he ran away too
Gothmog Thu 17:42

It looks like to me he still wanted to get his story straight
Thu 17:42

Thing is
Thu 17:42

he seems like a very good player
Thu 17:43

Look at yesterdays log
Thu 17:43

I had to go to work like the day before
Thu 17:43

I told you 10 minutes before
Thu 17:43

and he claims GR exactly at the timer where I'm off to work
Thu 17:44

O.O
Sauron Thu 17:44

Actually I am back and there is an easy way of proving that Legolas is the real seer.
Thu 17:44

FOr just a moment
Thu 17:44

Tonight
Thu 17:44

Not 100% sure of how GR works but let Legolas visit Frodo
Thu 17:45

Because he is the new seer, and he visits Frodo
Thu 17:45

Then Aragorn visits Frodo
WitchKing Thu 17:45

better idea
Frodo Thu 17:45

What if you just kill me off and then nothing is proven and you'll be like "I guess we gotta re-try tonight"
WitchKing Thu 17:45

visit someone else
Gothmog Thu 17:45

What if lego is BH?
WitchKing Thu 17:45

Grima maybe
Thu 17:45

and have both harlots watch
Sauron Thu 17:46

Anyone is fine. Do Grima
Frodo Thu 17:46

Legolas is BH, like Gollum was
Sauron Thu 17:46

??? So Gollum Legolas 2 BH? You can see that what Frodo is saying doesn't make sense right people?
Gothmog Thu 17:46

I think we might have kill the wrong guy yesterday
Thu 17:46

and lego is BH
Frodo Thu 17:46

Why not someone worth healing, so that you can't just kill them
Elrond Thu 17:46

I have an idea.
WitchKing Thu 17:46

actually, @Sauron, it makes sense
Sauron Thu 17:47

We did kill the wrong guy yesterday
Thu 17:47

What is your idea Elrond?
Moderator

Gothmog votes to put Legolas on trial
Elrond Thu 17:48

Aragorn and Frodo should agree to watch the same person, but not the same person Legolas is checking. Frodo should tell us who he sees first, and Aragorn can prove or disprove what Frodo is saying.
Frodo Thu 17:48

YES
Thu 17:50

Me proven will proove everything and Sauron's team will go down >:D
Thu 17:51

An we don't really need the skills at this point since we have either of 2 wolf-sets
Thu 17:51

Heal him so they can't kill him and this is perfect plan
WitchKing Thu 17:55

watch me, guys :£
Thu 17:55

:3*
Thu 18:06

Also, who ever is picked, Elrond should *not* heal them
Frodo Thu 18:06

Party at Witch's
WitchKing Thu 18:06

You're invited, Frodo!
Thu 18:07

but you have to bring your own G&Ts
Frodo Thu 18:07

I knew it was you
Thu 18:07

I owe u money
WitchKing Thu 18:07

nah
Elrond Thu 18:07

Wait, there's a problem.
Thu 18:08

They'll see each other visiting WitchKing.
WitchKing Thu 18:08

yes
Frodo Thu 18:08

Yes, and either you or Legolas or Grima, or all, or none ;D nobody knows, until tomorrow
WitchKing Thu 18:08

maybe even a wolf
Elrond Thu 18:08

Can you see more than one person?
WitchKing Thu 18:08

yes
Thu 18:09

you see *everyone* who visits
Thu 18:09

with the caveat
Thu 18:09

that you only see one wolf
Elrond Thu 18:09

Oh, okay.
WitchKing Thu 18:15

okay, so this is what I think happened: Gollum was BH, Eowyn was SS and Legolas is Wolf - Eowyn shifted into Sauron last night to confirm that Gollum was really seer
Thu 18:16

Legolas is not and never was GR
Thu 18:16

my theory is easily disproved if Legolas visits me tonight
Thu 18:16

because Frodo and Aragorn will both see it
Gothmog Thu 18:17

oO
Elrond Thu 18:17

That's kind of stupid to think. Eowyn couldn't've shifted into Sauron. Did you not pay attention to timezones?
Gothmog Thu 18:17

why elrond?
Thu 18:17

the timezone thing
WitchKing Thu 18:17

because people always *have* to log on at the same time?
Thu 18:18

rather than logging on when is convenient for them - but being able to log on whenever they need to to play SS
Elrond Thu 18:18

Eowyn can only be on just before game-nightfall.
WitchKing Thu 18:19

why?
Elrond Thu 18:19

Would someone really stay up throughout the night for a game?
WitchKing Thu 18:19

maybe?
Thu 18:19

I probably would
Thu 18:19

8-)
Gothmog Thu 18:19

what tz is Eowyn?
WitchKing Thu 18:20

Elrond, what makes you think you know what timezone Eowyn is in?
Thu 18:20

Could they not have just been lying at the start to make it seem like they keep irregular hours?
Legolas Thu 18:21

Because he uses logic. Wtf witch :{
WitchKing Thu 18:24

I just don't understand why Eowyn would have died last night
Legolas Thu 18:25

To throw you off
Thu 18:25

Youre the lichpin
Sauron Thu 18:26

@WitchKing I think it is because important people like me Elrond and others will be watched / protected. So they go for the kill random villagers and then accuse people of being potential SS
Legolas Thu 18:26

And why are there two votes on merry?
Sauron Thu 18:26

As you can see Frodo was doing that to me earlier
Legolas Thu 18:26

Frodo is poisonous
Sauron Thu 18:26

Gothmog and someone else voted you Legolas
Thu 18:27

Frodo voted Gothmog to sellout his teammate
Moderator

WitchKing votes to put WitchKing on trial
Moderator

WitchKing votes to put Legolas on trial
Moderator

WitchKing votes to put Gothmog on trial
WitchKing Thu 18:29

idk
Moderator

WitchKing votes to put WitchKing on trial
WitchKing Thu 18:29

so confused
Sauron Thu 18:30

@WitchKing It is simple
Legolas Thu 18:30

I dont lie, but I think you overestimate me
Sauron Thu 18:30

Do you trust me?
WitchKing Thu 18:30

no
Sauron Thu 18:31

Well umm.... I am THE only Gravedigger.
WitchKing Thu 18:31

I want to hear from Grima
Sauron Thu 18:31

I checked Gollum. He is the seer.
WitchKing Thu 18:31

where are they?
Gothmog Thu 18:31

You can not trust anybody unless
Thu 18:32

you got a role and can confirm
Sauron Thu 18:32

Unless...?
Thu 18:32

I have a role and I am Gravedigger
Gothmog Thu 18:32

but then again you will know for sure
Thu 18:32

but everybody else wont trust you
Thu 18:32

I think we established that yes
Thu 18:33

but there is always a chance that you are not
Sauron Thu 18:33

Umm why should we trust you Gothmog?
Gothmog Thu 18:33

you shouldn't trust me anymore then we can trust you
Sauron Thu 18:34

Yeah I don't trust you any more. So now you can trust me?
Thu 18:35

Oh okay then. Looks like Gothmog trusts me now.
Thu 18:35

Gothmog, vote yourself because you are the wolf.
Gothmog Thu 18:35

lol no
Sauron Thu 18:36

Also just FYI
Gothmog Thu 18:36

I trust you more then lego
Sauron Thu 18:36

The plan Elrond comes up with doesn't work that well
Thu 18:36

If Frodo is the BH
Gothmog Thu 18:36

but only because there is less contradiction
Frodo Thu 18:36

How are both me and Grima BH exactly?
Sauron Thu 18:36

Frodo is going for the 25/75 guess
Moderator

Frodo votes to put Legolas on trial
Sauron Thu 18:37

Yeah there was never proof that Grima is the BH is there?
Frodo Thu 18:37

Sauron you're just getting scared cause you know I'm about to prove everything wrong
Thu 18:37

Aragorn SAW HIM
Thu 18:37

Are you confriming he's the true seer?
Sauron Thu 18:37

No I am scared because the strategy if flawed
Gothmog Thu 18:37

I mean sauron your plan doesn't work either
Sauron Thu 18:37

The true seer is Gollum.
Frodo Thu 18:38

So then me and Grima can't both be bh
Sauron Thu 18:38

Yes.
Thu 18:38

I realized that when you agreed to the plan.
Thu 18:39

That Frodo could have been a BH claiming to be harlot.
Thu 18:39

And that Grima saw our distrust for Gollum as a golden opportunity to false claim seer.
Thu 18:39

Grima, Frodo, Gothmog. 3 wolves.
Frodo Thu 18:39

But Grima has already been sighted visiting Legolas
Gothmog Thu 18:40

I'm more worried that lego is BH
Frodo Thu 18:40

I'm a true stalker
Thu 18:40

I mean harlot
Gothmog Thu 18:40

He sure as hell isn't GR
Sauron Thu 18:41

??? Aragorn said that?
Frodo Thu 18:41

Yeah , why are you not paying attention to the game? Wolfy
Sauron Thu 18:42

Okay I agree to the plan then LOL
Thu 18:42

Both Frodo and Aragorn go visit WitchKing
Gothmog Thu 18:43

ok now that we know what to do after the lynching
Thu 18:43

you still wanna lynch me?
Sauron Thu 18:43

I didn't have time to read that much chat this morning sorry about that. I am the Gravedigger. I checked Gollum and he is seer.
Legolas Thu 18:43

Yea
Frodo Thu 18:44

974 more times and it'll become true
Sauron Thu 18:44

I would much rather lynch Frodo / Grima but eh... Gothmog said he stole Pippin's role and got nothing. So that makes him a wolf too in my eye
Gothmog Thu 18:45

there were only 2 dead
Sauron Thu 18:45

@Aragorn Grima is a Bloodhound.
Frodo Thu 18:45

Yeah you're gonna want to lynch me now before I get confirmed :D
Sauron Thu 18:45

Gothmog likely a Shapeshifter cuz of the chat indications
Gothmog Thu 18:45

why is there not the possibility that pippin didn't have a role?
Sauron Thu 18:45

And Frodo is a normal WW who is buying time for... no reason
Thu 18:45

Because Pippin has to be harlot since Frodo is a false one
Frodo Thu 18:45

if Pippin was villager, then where is the missing GD? ._.
Sauron Thu 18:46

I am the real GD LOL
Frodo Thu 18:46

Eowyn into Sauron? maybe
Gothmog Thu 18:46

I think legolas is steering the conversation and while I think
Thu 18:46

you sauron are the GD
Thu 18:46

you fully trust him
Sauron Thu 18:46

Even your teammate failed you @Frodo
Gothmog Thu 18:46

and that may be our death
Sauron Thu 18:46

Yes I am the GD
Frodo Thu 18:46

Not my teammate sry bro
Legolas Thu 18:47

Dude Im in a hispotal ffs I steer nothing until Im back home in an hour
Sauron Thu 18:47

And thus Frodo, Gothmog, and Grima are the wolves.
Legolas Thu 18:47

Hospital...
Frodo Thu 18:47

or if he is that means one villager claim was lies - Eowyn
Sauron Thu 18:47

:o What happened?
Frodo Thu 18:47

Since Witch and Merry claim plain villager and also were confirmed by Grima
Gothmog Thu 18:47

why so aggressiv today legolas?
Frodo Thu 18:48

if Pippin is villager Eowyn truly was SS
Sauron Thu 18:48

Oh okay. So you are saying Eowyn SS'd into me?
Thu 18:48

I mean come on I said it yesterday too, it is impossible to Shapeshift into me haha
Gothmog Thu 18:49

I don't think you got SS
Sauron Thu 18:49

Yes. So I am telling the truth
Gothmog Thu 18:49

But there are still enough possible candidates
Sauron Thu 18:50

Since I am telling the truth. Frodo cannot be a harlot.
Thu 18:50

Which means only Aragorn claimed Harlot in a 2 harlots game
Thu 18:50

Thus Pippin has to be harlot, but Gothmog said he tried to steal Pippin's role and got nothing
Thu 18:51

Which proves that Gothmog is now officially a wolf despite trying to gain trust from me.
Thu 18:52

Both Aragorn and Frodo: Go visit WitchKing tonight.
Thu 18:53

Grima? She is proven a BloodHound.
Thu 18:54

Elrond Aragorn and Frodo. All of you use ability onto WitchKing. Tomorrow will likely be a deathless night unless I am getting outplayed in the most crazy way possibile by every single members of this village.
Legolas Thu 19:27

OK I'm back sry if something sounded harsh, but I visisted my grandma and she called me 5 different names, 2 of them were female -_-, what did I miss?
Sauron Thu 19:28

DING DING DING. Sauron has KO'd Gothmog and Frodo.
Legolas Thu 19:28

ok I see you guys figured out some plan, what I gonna do in it?
Sauron Thu 19:28

You don't need to do anything lol.
Legolas Thu 19:28

so no effort to confirm me as seer?
Sauron Thu 19:29

Read above of what I said, and look at their reaction. They are silenced.
WitchKing Thu 19:29

Legolas :(
Thu 19:29

my grandma kept asking my mother how I was, when I was standing right next to my mother
Thu 19:30

she asked the same thing three times in about 15 minutes
Legolas Thu 19:30

She first called me Gretchen, then Daniel, Rene, Anna, then my real name
Thu 19:31

ok back to topic, Witchking, what are your doubts about me?
WitchKing Thu 19:31

my doubts are more or less that I still think Gollum was a wolf
Thu 19:31

and therefore if you're genuinely the GraveRobber and used your ability, then you're now a wolf too
Legolas Thu 19:32

so I see the check for me doesnt work ssince I could be BH right?
Sauron Thu 19:32

Look.
Thu 19:32

We lynch Gothmog today
Thu 19:33

Frodo Aragorn and Elrond all visits WitchKing
Thu 19:33

It will be a deathless night.
Legolas Thu 19:33

why deathless?
Sauron Thu 19:33

Because BH can't vote to kill
Thu 19:33

So only Frodo can vote to kill WitchKing tonight
Legolas Thu 19:34

isn't that enough?
Thu 19:34

sry I never was wolf
Sauron Thu 19:34

Elrond and Aragorn both use ability on WitchKing tonight.
Thu 19:35

It will be a deathless night, and Aragorn will see that Frodo has tried to kill Elrond
WitchKing Thu 19:35

I don't like that plan
Thu 19:35

I'd rather Frodo and Aragorn both visit me, Elrond does not
Sauron Thu 19:35

WHAT. There will be no deaths if Elrond visits you too
Legolas Thu 19:35

so I'm not included because I could be bh?
WitchKing Thu 19:36

because wolves could choose not to kill to frame Frodo
Sauron Thu 19:36

Frodo tomorrow will try to frame Aragorn as a wolf
WitchKing Thu 19:36

well you'll know he's not though, and lynch Frodo anyway
Sauron Thu 19:36

Idk how is Legolas supposed to be included but a deathless night only benefits the village.
WitchKing Thu 19:37

plus, I'd rather have Elrond protect someone like Aragorn
Sauron Thu 19:37

No you see
WitchKing Thu 19:37

because if Aragorn dies, then Frodo could claim whatever he wants
Legolas Thu 19:37

Aragorn is for me the only confirmed source of information
Thu 19:38

I trust Sauron, because he saw the same I saw, but I think all agree on Aragorn
Sauron Thu 19:38

Aragorn Frodo Elrond all visits WitchKing. Deathless night. Aragorn will understand that Frodo is the wolf tomorrow morning as there will be no death..
Legolas Thu 19:39

so you think Frodo has to play along, because if he doesn't visit he's confirmed as well?
Sauron Thu 19:39

Frodo has to play along
Legolas Thu 19:39

and what if frodo kills aragorn?
Sauron Thu 19:39

If he doesn't visits WitchKing it is proven that he is a wolf as there will be a death if he doesn't visits WitchKing
Thu 19:40

Hmm...
WitchKing Thu 19:40

Elrond must protect Aragorn
Legolas Thu 19:40

I guess I'm immortal now because if I die all doubts vanish
WitchKing Thu 19:40

otherwise the whole thing is pointless
Legolas Thu 19:40

I agree with witch
Thu 19:41

but what I dont understand is
Thu 19:41

¨why is Sauron not trustworthy?
Thu 19:41

what makes him shady
Thu 19:42

honestly I tought with Saurons read everything is clear
Thu 19:42

went to the hispital checked on the phone and saw there was still discussion.
Sauron Thu 19:42

Yeah... Gothmog and Frodo attempted to make me look bad because they are the wolves.
Legolas Thu 19:43

whats their scenario?
Thu 19:43

if they think you're a wolf, what's their scenario
Gothmog Thu 19:43

Where did I make you look bad?
Sauron Thu 19:43

They said me and Legolas are in the same team but we were fighting each other yesterday all day
Gothmog Thu 19:43

I never said that
Sauron Thu 19:43

Oh hi Gothmog. Nevermind you but Frodo definitely tried to make me look bad.
Legolas Thu 19:44

if Gothmog never said that, then it's only frodo?
Gothmog Thu 19:44

I think legolas is leading you pretty hard
Sauron Thu 19:44

Yeah but Gothmog is only trying to get some trust from me
Legolas Thu 19:44

I was put out of the lead yesterday when I went way to EMO
Gothmog Thu 19:44

besides aragorn you got the most trustworthy intel
Legolas Thu 19:45

I guess I could visit someone to proof seer, but then I get accused of being bh
Gothmog Thu 19:45

I tell you legolas is BH and we are getting played hard.
Sauron Thu 19:45

Look Gothmog, try all you want. What I said above proves me right.
Thu 19:45

Legolas cannot be BH
Gothmog Thu 19:45

why?
Sauron Thu 19:45

Since Gollum is the real seer.
Legolas Thu 19:45

so whats frodo's opinion of merry?
Thu 19:46

because merry went with me all the way
Thu 19:46

also a wolf? OH WAIT HE CANT
Thu 19:46

because your BH confirmed him :D
Thu 19:46

hi hi too bad
Sauron Thu 19:46

And Grima is proven BH by Aragorn *Tho he believes that he is a Seer
Gothmog Thu 19:46

why cant legolas be bh when gollum was seer?
Legolas Thu 19:46

because grima visited someone
Sauron Thu 19:47

Because Aragorn saw Grima visiting Legolas
Legolas Thu 19:47

your logic makes no sense
Sauron Thu 19:47

He is just asking questions :)
Gothmog Thu 19:47

was he the only one visiting?
Legolas Thu 19:47

yes
Gothmog Thu 19:47

ok
Thu 19:47

my bad
Thu 19:48

that kinda clears you
Sauron Thu 19:48

Yeah so Grima is proven BH.
Gothmog Thu 19:48

of bh
WitchKing Thu 19:48

Gothmog, I'm confused
Gothmog Thu 19:48

Still I know you are not the GR
WitchKing Thu 19:48

you're graverobber, right?
Gothmog Thu 19:48

yes
WitchKing Thu 19:48

okay, just checking
Sauron Thu 19:49

He is not.
Gothmog Thu 19:49

I thought legolas is BH because he claimed seer
Thu 19:49

that would be perfect for him
Sauron Thu 19:49

Legolas is GR who stole the role of Gollum
Gothmog Thu 19:49

he bight just be normal wolf
Thu 19:49

you can't know for sure
Sauron Thu 19:49

I know for sure.
Gothmog Thu 19:49

sure you know gollum was seer
Sauron Thu 19:50

For 100% sure.
Legolas Thu 19:50

Witch, I know your brain is going crazy right now, but most of the times the simplest solutions are the right one :)
Gothmog Thu 19:50

und if he would be the GR
Thu 19:50

he would now be seer
Sauron Thu 19:50

Okay Gothmog start from beginning
Gothmog Thu 19:50

but he also can take the gamble and fake claim seer
Sauron Thu 19:50

I am the Gravedigger right?
Gothmog Thu 19:50

yes
Thu 19:50

gollum was seer
Thu 19:51

you checked him got seer confirmed
Sauron Thu 19:51

I checked Gollum and he is the seer
Gothmog Thu 19:51

but
Sauron Thu 19:51

So he checked Legolas, he is a vilager.
Gothmog Thu 19:51

the was a good chance he was seer
Sauron Thu 19:51

He checked Frodo and he is a wolf
Gothmog Thu 19:51

so it is not that far fetched
Sauron Thu 19:51

So Frodo is a wolf right?
Gothmog Thu 19:51

for a wolf to claim that
Thu 19:51

my issue with legolas is
Grima Thu 19:51

hey guys, sorry, been another long day
Thu 19:52

I've just skimmed over the chat
Sauron Thu 19:52

Internet lag sucks =_=. Frodo is a wolf right? Do you agree Gothmog?
Grima Thu 19:52

I'll try and be brief
Gothmog Thu 19:52

the late claiming, as if he had to get his story straight
Legolas Thu 19:52

no need to Grima :)
Thu 19:52

it's over
Gothmog Thu 19:52

if you are the real GR you can come out immediately
Sauron Thu 19:52

Gothmog, do you agree that Gollum is the seer?
Thu 19:52

Answer my question
Gothmog Thu 19:53

yes
Grima Thu 19:53

I checked legolas, said he was villager, but if he did indeed steal gollum then that would make him wolf and it would still appear as villager to me
Sauron Thu 19:53

So you agree that Frodo is a wolf right? Because of his checks?
Legolas Thu 19:53

Sauron, I think Goth is SS, he tries to get Frodo in front, so he can SS
Thu 19:53

so he just goes along
Sauron Thu 19:53

Goth is SS I think so too @Legolas but leave the negotiation between me and Gothmog
Grima Thu 19:54

from town's perspective, if you assume gollum was seer, legolas would now be seer and he would be in line with what he said. if gollum was wolf, then legolas would now be wolf too, so his story is the same either way
Legolas Thu 19:54

will do, I trust you
Sauron Thu 19:54

You agree that Frodo is the wolf and Legolas is the villager because that is Gollum;s check, right Gothmog?
Grima Thu 19:54

sauron seems to corroborate legolas' story, so I guess they're in cahoots
Gothmog Thu 19:54

gollum didnt check
Thu 19:54

grima checked
Sauron Thu 19:55

Gollum did check those two
Gothmog Thu 19:55

so frodo grima lego
Legolas Thu 19:55

that makes no sense :)
Sauron Thu 19:55

Yesterday, he announced that Frodo is a wolf and Lego is a villager
Legolas Thu 19:55

sry I know I should leave it to Sauron :)
Sauron Thu 19:55

You agree with that?
Thu 19:55

It really did happen yesterday
Thu 19:56

Gothmog are you going to ignore the words of our true seer, Gollum?
Gothmog Thu 19:56

but wouldnt gollum see GR instead of villager?
Sauron Thu 19:56

Nope
Thu 19:56

Seer can only see if a person is good or bad, thus villager / wolf
WitchKing Thu 19:57

I still think we should just lynch everyone in a certain order that takes out a guaranteed wolf every two nights
Gothmog Thu 19:57

tbh the whole gollum thing was confusing and got him killed
Sauron Thu 19:57

They need to change this tbh
Gothmog Thu 19:57

probably the best @witch
Legolas Thu 19:57

Witch : Goth, Frodo, Grima , LEGOLAS, if we haven't won by the first 3 just kill me
Sauron Thu 19:57

But you believe that Legolas is on the village side because of Gollum's check right?
Grima Thu 19:57

any ideas on a third wolf?
Sauron Thu 19:58

Yes @Grima
Legolas Thu 19:58

grima is the bh, on the first two we have to assume SS
Sauron Thu 19:58

We all knows who three wolves are now.
Grima Thu 19:58

legolas has been a wildcard until today, but if he has BH role then I suppose he is more of a priority target?
Legolas Thu 19:58

Witch, we have a massive numbers advantage
Thu 19:58

Grima I put you last because BH is no priority target
Sauron Thu 19:59

Hey @Grima, How would you rank your wolf team?
Thu 19:59

So I will know which wolf is the third worlf
Thu 19:59

Frodo Grima Gothmog, I like that order.
Grima Thu 19:59

is this your plan? I hesitate to call it a strategy
Sauron Thu 19:59

So Gothmog is our 3rd wolf.
Grima Thu 20:00

hmmm looking back, this makes sense
Legolas Thu 20:00

bh is the last target
Thu 20:00

all roles are known
Thu 20:00

there is nothing to find out
Grima Thu 20:00

sauron appeared to be posturing, gave a vague "beware of seer/gd/gr claims" to give himself some breathing room, and claim the least contested role
Legolas Thu 20:01

grima he claimed this role before Goth did
Sauron Thu 20:02

ROFL that was 2 days ago, I didn't want to give concrete information for you Grima
Grima Thu 20:02

so only the most recent information is pertinent?
Sauron Thu 20:03

Look
Thu 20:03

I am the only Gravedigger here
Grima Thu 20:04

... unless that was pippin, and you just lucked out
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Grima votes to put Legolas on trial
Sauron Thu 20:04

Which Graverobber do you believe is saying the truth Grima?
Thu 20:04

Oh so you believe in Gothmog eh
Grima Thu 20:05

legolas claims to be seer, so that is more concrete for me right now
Sauron Thu 20:05

Legolas is a Graverobber my friend
Grima Thu 20:05

gothmog has just been a confusing mess the entire time
Sauron Thu 20:05

He stole GOllum's role and got seer.
Grima Thu 20:05

basically what i just said
Sauron Thu 20:05

Legolas and Gothmog both claimed Graverobber
Thu 20:06

Which one do you believe?
Thu 20:06

Is the true Graverobber?
Thu 20:06

You believe Legolas is the true graverobber who stole Gollum's role and became BH right?
Grima Thu 20:06

assuming legolas isn't completely trolling, and he was GR and he stole gollum's role and is now claiming seer? when I'm the seer? that means he gets my vote for the lynch
Sauron Thu 20:07

So you do believe Legolas is the real GR and became the BH right?
Thu 20:07

But that also means Gothmog is not the real GraveRobber right?
Thu 20:08

Hey Grima, can you please vote Gothmog since he is a wolf too?
Thu 20:08

Oh Grima~~~. Please? :)
Grima Thu 20:09

it would follow, but gothmog didn't claim the same role as me, so I'm going with what is most damning
Thu 20:09

followed by you for supporting legolas' claim, then goth
Sauron Thu 20:09

No Grima. Gothmog is a wolf.
Thu 20:09

You proved that Legolas is a GR, so that means Gothmog is not the real GR.
Thu 20:10

Why you refusing to vote Gothmog?
Grima Thu 20:10

I proved he was a villager as of this morning
Sauron Thu 20:10

Is it because you are a wolf too with Gothmog?
Thu 20:10

But he is not an ordinary villager Grima
Thu 20:11

He claimed Graverobber, and he is not one. He is a wolf.
Thu 20:11

So please Grima, vote Gothmog.
Thu 20:12

How did you prove that Gothmog is a villager? I missed that. Tho it is over. He is not a villager. He is a wolf
WitchKing Thu 20:12

tbf, if Grima says Lego was a villager this morning
Thu 20:13

I'm all for voting for Gothmog too
Grima Thu 20:13

why are you so insistent on getting me to vote goth? lego has claimed seer to continue gollum's tale, who was certainly a wolf, so surely you can see why I am opposed to him
Sauron Thu 20:13

Merry, Legolas, Elrond, Sauron, WitchKing, Aragorn. We must unite and all vote Gothmog to ensure that we wins.
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WitchKing votes to put Gothmog on trial
Sauron Thu 20:13

Yeah Lego is the true Graverobber
Thu 20:13

I am the true Gravedigger
Thu 20:13

Thank you WitchKing, about time :D
Grima Thu 20:14

iirc if gr steals wolf role, gr still appears as villager to seer
Thu 20:14

saur and goth are the next priority picks
Sauron Thu 20:14

Legolas is proven innocent by both seer.
Thu 20:14

Why am I next priority pick?
Thu 20:15

Do you think I have been SS'd or Pippin is a Gravedigger?
Grima Thu 20:15

it is hardly proof, more of an indicator
Sauron Thu 20:16

Grima, you proved that Legolas is telling the truth as Graverobber and Gothmog is a LIAR.
Grima Thu 20:16

because you were very quick to believe legolas after his fumbling seer claim, which backs up the story of your ex fellow wolf, gollum
Sauron Thu 20:16

Because I checked Gollum and he is seer, obviously :P
Thu 20:16

But Grima
Grima Thu 20:16

am I not saying these things right? can you acknowledge what I'm saying, or it just seems overly defensive
Sauron Thu 20:16

You proved that Gothmog is a liar
Thu 20:17

Is that not an indicator that he is a wolf?
Thu 20:17

Are you not okay with voting him?
Grima Thu 20:17

gothmog is a liar under the assumption lego is gr, which I am inclined to believe
Sauron Thu 20:17

Yes so Gothmog is a liar, and you don't believe he is a wolf?
Grima Thu 20:17

oh I'm super fine with voting goth, but lego, once again, is the top pick for me
Sauron Thu 20:18

Oh then vote Gothmog
Grima Thu 20:18

oh, why
Sauron Thu 20:18

If you are super fine with voting him.
Grima Thu 20:18

I am, but not tonight
Sauron Thu 20:18

So you are not super fine with voting him?
Thu 20:19

Because he is on your wolf team?
Grima Thu 20:19

this is just volleying back and forth, can someone explain to sauron what I'm saying while I make some dinner please
Sauron Thu 20:19

We are the village Grima
Thu 20:19

We need to stick together
Thu 20:19

So that wolf doesn't out vote us
Grima Thu 20:19

... didn't you say gollum was seer
Sauron Thu 20:20

We are 6 vs 3 right now, it is important responsibility as a "seer" to vote Gothmog along with the village.
Thu 20:20

Yes. Graverobber stole Gollum's role and he got seer.
Grima Thu 20:21

yet I have already pretty much been confirmed as seer, and now you're trying to claim I am wolf and village simultaneously to be on board with your plan?
Thu 20:21

what, am I schrodinger's seer/wolf
Thu 20:21

I don't even know anymore
Sauron Thu 20:21

Oh so you are a wolf eh. Aww that sucks :(
Thu 20:22

You confirmed that Gothmog is a wolf, yet you won't vote him :(
Grima Thu 20:22

I'm guessing this is to confuse anyone who hasn't been keeping up with the chat
Thu 20:22

don't worry, I will repeat myself more succinctly when they arrive
Sauron Thu 20:22

Nooooo Grima why? I cry.
Thu 20:23

Repeat that Legolas is the graverobber?
Thu 20:23

And that Gothmog is the false one?
Grima Thu 20:23

hey if the town votes for goth I'm okay with it, it is a democracy after all
Sauron Thu 20:23

Yeah but we need your vote too.
Grima Thu 20:23

but my personal reasons say that lego then you are definite wolves to be lynched, followed by goth
Sauron Thu 20:24

I am the only Gravedigger.
Grima Thu 20:24

you're trying to rally the town to ensure a wolf victory, I am doing the same for a town victory
Sauron Thu 20:24

Ahaha Grima you are funny.
Grima Thu 20:25

if your biggest defence is "I am the sole gravedigger" then that isn't enough to convince anyone thinking this through rationally
Sauron Thu 20:25

I mean. If that is not an indicator that I am the real GD Idk what is....
Grima Thu 20:26

from my perspective, you're a wolf, and assuming that everyone else claimed to be the roles they claimed, it would make pippin the GD
Sauron Thu 20:27

But Gothmog said he stole Pippin's role and got nothing.
Grima Thu 20:27

gothmog has said a lot of things
Sauron Thu 20:27

So Gothmog has to be lying right?
Grima Thu 20:28

if I had to guess, gothmog is "running interference" for the wolves by causing confusion, and being sacrificed by you and lego in order to claim legitimacy
Thu 20:28

brb din dins
Sauron Thu 20:30

Haha so Gothmog is a wolf and you are perfectly fine with voting him but you are not fine with it. Okay bye Grima.
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Merry votes to put Legolas on trial
Legolas Thu 20:37

I'm confused
Thu 20:37

why no 4/4???
Sauron Thu 20:38

.... Legolas is a Graverobber now who turned seer
Legolas Thu 20:38

whats happening???
Sauron Thu 20:38

I am gravedigger who checked Gollum and he is seer.
Legolas Thu 20:38

why is the vote 4/4?
Sauron Thu 20:38

So Legolas is seer right now.
Thu 20:38

Frodo, Grima, Gothmog all voted for you.
Thu 20:38

The 3 wolves.
Legolas Thu 20:38

and merry?
Sauron Thu 20:39

Merry for some reason is voting Legolas because of Grima's influence
Thu 20:39

But Grima is the false seer
Thu 20:39

I checked GOllum and he is the seer.
Thu 20:39

Grima is the Bloodhound.
Legolas Thu 20:39

merry what made you change your opinion?
Thu 20:39

talk to me :(
Sauron Thu 20:40

Yikes, this already won game is turning dangerous now *Scared face
Thu 20:41

Merry I am the GD. We need to vote out Gothmog today as Grima is not the real seer.
Legolas Thu 20:41

I'm short of voting for myself.
Thu 20:42

just because I can get out of this
Sauron Thu 20:43

Merry you here? Gonna cry if Gothmog actually doesn't get voted out.
Legolas Thu 20:45

who's the deciding vote?
Sauron Thu 20:46

Aragorn
Legolas Thu 20:46

is he even here?=
Thu 20:46

was he here today?
Sauron Thu 20:46

But Merry needs to vote Gothmog
Thu 20:47

Aragorn was here and confirmed that Grima is a "seer"
Thu 20:47

But he is actually a BH
Legolas Thu 20:50

+
Sauron Thu 20:52

AHHHHHH this is a worrying trend.
Legolas Thu 20:52

if this stay until 22:58 or something, I'm gonna probably vote myself out
Sauron Thu 20:52

Rip I talked too much nonsense with the wolves lol, shouldn't even bring discussions like this.
Thu 20:54

I mean there are so many flaws in those wolve's arguments. Grima already admitted that Gothmog is a wolf and proved Legolas' innocence.
Legolas Thu 20:54

I'm just mind blown right now
Sauron Thu 20:55

OH I FIGURED OUT.
Thu 20:55

Okay this will make it clear for you Merry
Thu 20:55

Grima is saying that Gollum, Legolas, and me are the wolves.
Thu 20:56

But it won't make sense consider I spent all day yesterday trying to lynch Gollum
Thu 20:56

Grima then also said he thinks Gothmog is a wolf too, but there are only 3 wolves in this game.
Thu 20:57

So me and Legolas and Gollum are independent and we are not wolf teammates like Grima said.
WitchKing Thu 20:58

Merry, you should vote Gothmog
Sauron Thu 20:58

I will repeat again. I am the real Gravedigger. I digged Gollum and it said "Seer". Thus makes both Frodo and Grima wolves
WitchKing Thu 20:58

I'm still convinced Legolas is a wolf, but tbh Gothmog is the more confirmed wolf
Sauron Thu 20:59

But Gothmog is also wolf too because he said he digged Pippin and got no roles
WitchKing Thu 20:59

as much as I'd like to think Frodo is innocent, the evidence is rapidly piling up :(
Sauron Thu 20:59

Since Frodo is the false harlot, it only makes sense that Pippin is the real harlot.
Thu 21:00

Along with Aragorn. The reason why we are voting out Gothmog, is because he is more likely Shapeshifter than Frodo.
Thu 21:01

Read above Merry and Aragorn. We need to vote out Gothmog today.
Thu 21:09

MERRY ARAGORN IS KILLING ME AHHHH WHY AM I TAKING THIS SO SERIOUSLY
Thu 21:11

Vote Gothmog.
Thu 21:12

Oh Grima is implying that Gothmog, me and Gollum were the original wolves and Legolas turned into a wolf. But I spent all day yesterday trying to lynch Gollum and all day today trying to convince others tolynch Gothmog.
Thu 21:13

Grima's logic makes no sense. I am the real gravedigger.
Thu 21:17

43 minutes left *screams in despair cuz Gothmog is not getting lynched.
Legolas Thu 21:17

I'm calculating now if the town has a chance if I kill myself
Sauron Thu 21:18

Don't kill yourself.
Thu 21:18

Town has a chance still
Legolas Thu 21:18

there seems to be some weird conception that I'm playing everyone. Maybe they will come to their senses if I'm gone
Sauron Thu 21:18

But WE CANNOT LET SHAPESHIFTER GOTHMOG LIVE.
Thu 21:19

He will Shapeshift and then shits will get scary :(
Thu 21:19

Also Elrond and others, abandon the original plan, we agree it was bad right?
WitchKing Thu 21:20

guys
Thu 21:21

lynch Gothmog today then we can think about lynching Legolas tomorrow
Sauron Thu 21:21

WitchKing is confused af but I hope I have a chance of telling you people why Legolas is innocent again.
Thu 21:22

It seems unclear to so many of you :(
Thu 21:24

All the people I suspect to be wolves: Grima, Gothmog, and Frodo piled up the votes for Legolas. Is that really a coincedence? @Everyone
Thu 21:26

WitchKing, Elrond, Legolas, and me all voted for Gothmog. Elrond is confirmed good and WitchKing is undisputed village. Elrond is the sole protector and I am the sole Gravedigger. Yet I cannot be trustd?
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Merry votes to put Gothmog on trial
WitchKing Thu 21:34

\o/
Legolas Thu 21:34

can I kiss you merry?`#nohomo
Sauron Thu 21:35

Yay :)
Grima Thu 21:40

Aragorn, if you're there, I will sum up
Thu 21:40

I checked legolas last night, he appeared to be villager in the morning
Thu 21:40

however, he claims to have taken seer role from gollum (after messing up the announcement), which is an impossibility
Thu 21:40

sauron then supports legolas' claim, since the wolves just regained a member
Thu 21:41

I believe legolas when he said he was gr, which would make gothmog either a lying wolf or a total troll
Thu 21:41

personally I believe gothmog to be a wolf intentionally causing confusion and acting as a scapegoat so the other two can claim legitimacy
Thu 21:41

but legolas and sauron have challenged the whole seer identity, so my vote is to lynch legolas because of the certainty of him being a wolf
Thu 21:41

meanwhile, the whole crux of sauron's argument is that he claims to be GD. repeatedly.
Thu 21:42

don't fret it too much though. there isn't really a bad vote, but the better vote is legolas
Sauron Thu 21:43

Grima is implying that Gothmog, me and Gollum were the original wolves and Legolas turned into a wolf. But I spent all day yesterday trying to lynch Gollum and all day today trying to convince others to lynch Gothmog. Grima's logic makes no sense. I am the real gravedigger.
Merry Thu 21:44

How did you manage to vote for yourself witch? I can't do it
Grima Thu 21:44

gollum also messed up, so you're offering up the weakest member in a classic wolf move, same with gothmog now
Sauron Thu 21:44

Gothmog, Grima, Frodo is the wolf team. They all voted Legolas.
Grima Thu 21:44

there is the GD affirmation yet again
Frodo Thu 21:44

They want Gothmog gone because he's inactive, while Legolas has power over the people. It's through a meta theory that I know this, but I'm 99% sure Pippin was SS and turned into Gothmog. Reasons idk. But Sauron's pushing for him to be killed first "because he's SS" is nonsense.
Sauron Thu 21:44

Merry you can vote yourself.
WitchKing Thu 21:45

Merry, it's a bug that sometimes you can't (I think it might be mobile-related but not sure?)
Thu 21:45

but it doesn't always happen
Frodo Thu 21:45

Sauron we could say the same about you and Lego, infact isn't it a rule for all 3 wolves NOT to vote the same guy?
WitchKing Thu 21:45

(and it only seems to happen if you're a villager, never a special)
Frodo Thu 21:45

I'm pretty sure even if we go on Lego, Gothmog will last minute change his vote to himself
Sauron Thu 21:46

Yay Frodo is back at 16:45. What a coincedence xD. Going for one last push eh?
Frodo Thu 21:46

Yeah, it's almost the end of today
Sauron Thu 21:46

So Pippin is the SS who got into Gothmog?
Frodo Thu 21:46

I've missed abit, but scrolling up it seems to be you begging in desperation
Thu 21:47

And suicide threat by Legolas, how wolfy can you get!
Thu 21:47

Yeah I recognised original Gothmog.. he has changed
WitchKing Thu 21:47

Frodo - you and Aragorn are both checking me tonight, right?
Frodo Thu 21:47

Yup
Thu 21:47

But Sauron is really against the plan
Thu 21:47

Reasons pls
Sauron Thu 21:47

Oh okay do it then
Thu 21:48

There will be a dead body called WitchKing but it is fine
Thu 21:48

We all trust Aragorn right?
Frodo Thu 21:48

Sauron Thu 21:18 But WE CANNOT LET SHAPESHIFTER GOTHMOG LIVE. He will Shapeshift and then shits will get scary :( Also Elrond and others, abandon the original plan, we agree it was bad right?
Thu 21:48

What's bad about it?
Sauron Thu 21:48

Mine original plan I meant
Frodo Thu 21:49

How is this not proof enough for everyone anyways
Sauron Thu 21:49

Was where Elrond protects WitchKing too
Thu 21:49

But I realized that Frodo could just kill Aragorn with help of mine village
Frodo Thu 21:49

But then me and Aragorn both just say "Elrond did visit" o_O
Thu 21:49

Tbh I think you're gonna kill me
Sauron Thu 21:49

Or you kill Aragorn tonight
Frodo Thu 21:49

and then claim I SS'd out
Thu 21:50

Amirite?
Sauron Thu 21:50

I can't kill you cuz I am Gravedigger LOL
Grima Thu 21:50

sounds like backpedalling from sauron to me
Sauron Thu 21:50

I hope you are not SS and that Gothmog is :(
Grima Thu 21:51

wait I thought there was already a shapeshift, why would you worry about another shapeshift
Thu 21:51

or did I get confused somewhere along the way
Sauron Thu 21:51

Hmm may be because, I don't think Shapeshift has even happened yet!
Frodo Thu 21:52

Because you want us to doubt eachother
Sauron Thu 21:52

WHAT. Then what are you doing right now?
Frodo Thu 21:52

Idk hoping to live until tomorrow so that I get confirmed
Thu 21:53

What about you?
Sauron Thu 21:53

I am the Gravedigger. I repeat again. THE MOFO Gravedigger. You are making the village doubting each other lol.
Thu 21:53

I will be checking Pippin tonight tho obviously she is a harlot :P
Frodo Thu 21:53

I can do that too, I just haven't thought it neccessary
Thu 21:54

I am the Harlot.
Thu 21:54

blushblush
Sauron Thu 21:54

A harlot with a bloody knife *Scary
Thu 21:54

Wait Werewolf uses claw right?
Thu 21:55

Damn never watched any of those movies or read any stories :/
WitchKing Thu 21:55

good luck tomorrow guys
Thu 21:55

if Sauron's right, I'll wake up as a bloody pulp
Sauron Thu 21:55

It is a date at the WitchKing then. Frodo and Aragorn both visit WitchKing.
Frodo Thu 21:55

NOOO
Thu 21:56

RIP
Sauron Thu 21:56

Elrond consider protecting Aragorn
Thu 21:56

Haha Frodo
Frodo Thu 21:56

I dunno about following any advice from Sauron
Sauron Thu 21:56

What was that reaction Frodo?
Frodo Thu 21:56

The smartest thing is to heal Aragorn otherwise I'm gonna be alone and framed
Thu 21:57

If I die I swear Pippin was SS and Sauron is lying
Thu 21:57

That lobby guy gave everything away
WitchKing Thu 21:57

or Pippin was GD all along
Sauron Thu 21:57

So I am the lying sole gravedigger?
Frodo Thu 21:58

original Gothmog probably GD
Sauron Thu 21:58

Come on... Look at what I said above then
WitchKing Thu 21:58

everyone seems to be considering the possibility that Frodo picked Harlot and Pippin was Harlot, but no-one seems to think it's equally possible that Sauron picked GD from dead Pippin
Sauron Thu 21:58

Both of you, Aragorn and Frodo. Date at WitchKing.
Frodo Thu 21:59

Yeah I dunno why, I blame false seer and their coodination
Sauron Thu 21:59

False seer? Gollum? Who I want to be lynched but he turns out to be real seer?
Thu 22:00

Come on... No one doubts me because I am real :P
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