Mafia Replay - Lord of the Rings Identities

Replay

This is a log of a game of werewolves started on the 23rd July 2016 on a 24 hour cycle (12h day, 12h night).
This is a spoiler free version, use the user button (top menu) to see who was alive at the time, and the calendar button or links below the chat to navigate through to different days.
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Day 2
Moderator

The sun rises, the village is safe from the werewolves for now. Discuss who you think is a wolf, soon you will get a chance to lynch them
Grima

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Legolas

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Elrond

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Aragorn

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Frodo

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WitchKing

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Eowyn

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Pippin

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Gollum

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Sauron

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Merry

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Gothmog

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Gothmog Tue 10:00

jesus that rooster noise scared the crap out of me
Legolas Tue 10:12

our werewolves are pacifists, or someone got saved?
Gollum Tue 10:20

Which could mean whoever was targeted could be targeted again and I think unlikely they would get saved again
Tue 10:22

But at this stage I guess there's no reason whoever was picked was picked
Legolas Tue 10:31

IF the protector protected himself he should probably say so now, because he's most likely dead next round.
Gothmog Tue 10:34

So I noticed that the how to play page doesn't actually tell you how to PLAY. which is slightly annoying
Legolas Tue 10:35

there is still a link to the old overview
Gothmog Tue 10:36

Oh I saw, it tells me what I can do, but not how to do it. Not helpful
Legolas Tue 10:37

I think you just made yourself a big target O_o
Gothmog Tue 10:37

Oh I'm sure the wolves will kill me, but I don't have much choice except to ask xD
Tue 10:39

And if people wanna lynch me for this, they're not thinking -_-
Legolas Tue 10:39

from the game start: Remember, if you have any questions, email [email protected]
Gothmog Tue 10:40

...Where was that? o.o
Tue 10:40

Must have missed it
Legolas Tue 10:40

at the verry start
Gothmog Tue 10:40

Doesn't really make sense though, that basic instructions for the game have to be gotten from EMAIL, and aren't available on site though...
Tue 10:41

Ahh, I see the message now. Didn't notice it after the sudden renaming
Merry Tue 10:47

what don't you understand?
Tue 10:47

my face looks deformed
Legolas Tue 10:48

just a reminder DO NOT post your role info
Gothmog Tue 10:48

Well, if you have something you can do at night while the wolves are murdering our faces, how do you do it? Cause I tried typing a bunch of different things and it all just vanished
Tue 10:48

And I'm not a total idiot thanks
Legolas Tue 10:49

-_-
Tue 10:49

wasn't meant like that but ok
Gothmog Tue 10:50

Sorry, it's just frustrating to have so little information on my first game here, especially after playing games like this that have info I can readily google myself without needing to risk asking the other players
Merry Tue 10:51

I thought you would just click on one of the names to check them in the night
Gothmog Tue 10:51

Tried that, didn't do anything @.@
Merry Tue 10:52

I'm always villager so not sure
Gothmog Tue 10:53

You've never gotten a special role? O.O
Legolas Tue 10:53

gothmog you don't get an instant result, but what you did gets mentioned in the night log
Merry Tue 10:53

yea revivor but I got killed first night
Tue 10:53

or 2nd night, either way I didn't get to use it
Tue 10:53

only played a few games
Gothmog Tue 10:53

But it didn't? I checked the night log, it's totally empty
Merry Tue 10:55

the voting thing doesn't seem to be open yet
Moderator

Voting is now open to lynch the next werewolf
Gothmog Tue 10:55

LOL
Tue 10:55

nice timing
Merry Tue 10:55

:)
Legolas Tue 10:55

:D
Gothmog Tue 10:55

The mod is a bot, right?
Moderator

Merry votes to put Pippin on trial
Gothmog Tue 10:55

So I can't ask it for help xD
Merry Tue 10:56

so if you click on the voting thing it lists all the names and you can vote on someone like I just did, I thought in night you can choose to use your ability on someone in the same way
Gothmog Tue 10:56

Yeah I just found the notes! But no, not that I saw. Maybe tonight will be different @.@
Tue 10:56

*votes not note jfc
Legolas Tue 10:58

Funny that Merry votes for Pippin :D
Merry Tue 10:58

too many hobbits in here for my liking
Legolas Tue 10:59

I always had a personal disliking for Frodo
Gothmog Tue 10:59

/doesn't get any of the lotr jokes
Tue 10:59

>.>
Legolas Tue 10:59

Merry and Pippin are best buddies :)
Gothmog Tue 10:59

Ahhhh gotcha
Merry Tue 11:01

I've never played with the HARLOT before... so at night they 'visit' someone.. and get a report on who else 'visited' that person... not entirely sure what that means..... does it mean if Seer checked that person then the Harlot will be told who is the Seer? likewise with PRotector/Huntsman and if that person dies to wolf then the Harlot is told who one of the wolves are?
Legolas Tue 11:02

he doesn't see the role, just who visited
Gothmog Tue 11:02

Harlot sounds like lookout from town of salem, but names after the escort xD
Legolas Tue 11:02

and no I'm not harlot -_-
Gothmog Tue 11:02

lol
Tue 11:02

But Legolas is pretty enough
Legolas Tue 11:03

You just get for example "Pippin was visited by Merry last night"
Merry Tue 11:03

I see
Gothmog Tue 11:03

Yup, exactly like lookout. Least that means most of these roles are similar to what I'm used to
Legolas Tue 11:04

it needs some predictive ability
Tue 11:04

because you only see something if you visit the right person in the right round
Gothmog Tue 11:05

Same with protector I'm assuming, if it works like bodyguard. Nothing happens if the person you visit isn't attacked
Legolas Tue 11:05

yes and we have to assume this happened tonight
Merry Tue 11:05

if Harlot visits someone and then that person is dead in morning then the Harlot knows who one of the wolves are? assuming nobody else visited, e.g. seer
Gothmog Tue 11:05

Which is pretty awesome odds tbh
Tue 11:05

Yup!
Legolas Tue 11:06

I'm not sure what happens if multiple ppl. visit
Gothmog Tue 11:06

If there was a people pileup I bet it's a clusterfuck
Legolas Tue 11:06

like the seer visits and the wolves afterwards
Merry Tue 11:06

i would have thought it just lists all the names, easy enough isn't it?
Gothmog Tue 11:07

But then yougotta play the guessing game, just with narrower options
Tue 11:10

alright it's 3am and I need to sleep. don't kil anyone before I wake up, now.
Pippin Tue 12:36

Merry bro
Tue 12:36

wth
Tue 12:36

I wont share my weed with you ever again
Legolas Tue 12:42

does it make sense to lynch at that stage, we haven't lost a villager for some reason and there is no vampire.
Frodo Tue 13:11

Woah no deaths. Although even with that I dislike random lynching - it's still a small game
Tue 13:11

Gothmog it's the same as voting in the day, on the people icon at the top!
Pippin Tue 13:13

I think not lyching is always a bad idea. Even withour a death night 1 you always have the chance to git right.
Tue 13:14

but you could argue if there is one case where not lynching is an option its probably when no one dies at night 1
Frodo Tue 13:14

hmm I guess it's 25% chance if you guys want to
Tue 13:15

Everyone was active so Gothmog couldn't be a wolf if he's speaking the truth about not knowing what to do.. unless that's a cover
Pippin Tue 13:18

He's not on the stats page so
Tue 13:18

he might be new
Elrond Tue 16:48

Hello, just popping in to say hi so you all don't think I'm a chat lurker.
Legolas Tue 16:51

You're an elve, not that talkative. I understand you
Frodo Tue 16:57

How do you know who it is Pippin?
Legolas Tue 16:57

I have the same question, good point Frodo
Gollum Tue 16:57

It shows user names not character names
Tue 16:58

So none of us will appear there using that logic :p
Frodo Tue 16:59

Only wolves can see usernames huh..
Legolas Tue 16:59

can wolves? I've never been a wolf
Frodo Tue 16:59

yeah!
Gollum Tue 16:59

Aren't you talking about the lobby stats page thing?
Frodo Tue 17:00

Maybe someone should check Gothrog n Pipping
Gollum Tue 17:00

That shows how many games you've played
Pippin Tue 17:05

yeah you are right my mistake
Tue 17:06

but still its probably 50/50 on him
Merry Tue 17:37

Wolves see usernames? Really?
Pippin Tue 17:38

no one sees
Elrond Tue 17:55

Wolves see usernames of fellow wolves, I think.
Gothmog Tue 18:07

Yo, I'm awake. If someone wants to check me tonight go right ahead
Tue 18:07

And thanks for the info Frodo ^^
Tue 18:09

Pippin, this is my first game but how could you check the stats on me if you don't know my username? o.O
Pippin Tue 18:19

yeah that was my mistake
Gothmog Tue 18:20

Lol
Sauron Tue 19:09

Hello. Why does everyone wants Pippin to die?
Moderator

Sauron votes to put WitchKing on trial
Elrond Tue 19:09

?
Sauron Tue 19:09

I am balancing the votes
Tue 19:10

Or else Pippin will get lynched for no good reasons
Elrond Tue 19:11

So.
Sauron Tue 19:11

Wolves FEAR ME. Villagers FEAR ME. As you can see, mine role is really good. Oh so good I am cumming right now. I am a God. I am a really really strong God.
Tue 19:11

Elrond do you like the idea of Pippin getting lynched?
Gothmog Tue 19:11

o.o
Elrond Tue 19:12

Shut up, Sauron, I'm about to have an overdramatic moment.
Tue 19:12

Legolas Tue 05:31 IF the protector protected himself he should probably say so now, because he's most likely dead next round.
Sauron Tue 19:13

Makes sense.
Elrond Tue 19:13

Since there's 3 wolves and all 12 people active, we have to assume the wolves attempted to kill someone who was protected.
Sauron Tue 19:13

Umm yeah.
Elrond Tue 19:13

And it would honestly be stupid if the protector didn't protect himself first night.
Tue 19:14

So, hello! I'm your friendly neighbourhood protector.
Sauron Tue 19:14

Cool.
Aragorn Tue 19:14

that wasn't nearly as dramatic as it could've been smh
Tue 19:15

rip elrond
Gothmog Tue 19:15

I was promised overdramatics, I feel cheated
Elrond Tue 19:15

Thank you for that lovely contribution, Aragorn.
Sauron Tue 19:15

Since there is no counterclaims yet. 1 of the Harlots should try watch Elrond then.
Legolas Tue 19:15

yep
Tue 19:15

good plan sir
Gothmog Tue 19:15

ooh good idea
Sauron Tue 19:16

Suddenly everyone is back wow
Elrond Tue 19:16

Gothmog, it would've been much more overdramatic if Sauron hadn't kept interrupting.
Legolas Tue 19:16

you're a smart man Sauron, I think you got an EYE for stuff like this :D
Sauron Tue 19:16

Come on.
Aragorn Tue 19:16

is that supposed 2 be a lotr reference cause i don't get it lmao
Gothmog Tue 19:16

Elrond, the show must go on. Hecklers should never stop an overdramatic performance
Elrond Tue 19:17

That's true, that's true. Maybe I'm just not cut out for show business.
Gothmog Tue 19:17

Night falls in about 3 hours, correct?
Elrond Tue 19:17

Yup.
Legolas Tue 19:17

yes
Gothmog Tue 19:17

Well I'll be at work then, ah well. Thankfully it lasts 12 hours xD
Sauron Tue 19:18

Pippin "I think not lyching is always a bad idea. Even withour a death night 1 you always have the chance to git right."
Tue 19:19

@Pippin then why shouldn't we lynch you then :o
Tue 19:19

Tho this contradicts what I just did moments ago lol
Aragorn Tue 19:19

the only good part abt this is that elrond can still protect someone tonight bc im p sure protection things and seer checks happen first
Elrond Tue 19:20

This definitely contradicts what you just did, Pippin.
Tue 19:20

And yeah, that's true. The difficult part will be choosing who to protect, as no one is confirmed as innocent yet.
Sauron Tue 19:21

I am innocent. I am so innocent
Gothmog Tue 19:21

Aragorn, do you know how all of the checks go in order?
Legolas Tue 19:21

Elrond since it was my suggestion you could protect me :)
Elrond Tue 19:22

We'll see, we'll see.
Sauron Tue 19:22

As I said before. The wolves fear me. The villagers fear me. They all fear me MUWAHAHAHAHAHA
Gothmog Tue 19:22

can the protector protect themselves multiple nights? If so I'd suggest doing that or they'll prolly try to kill you again
Legolas Tue 19:22

only one night in a row
Aragorn Tue 19:22

im p sure it goes special village roles, wolves, and then harlots ??
Legolas Tue 19:22

thats why he came out
Gothmog Tue 19:22

ahh, gotcha
Tue 19:23

Thanks aragorn
Sauron Tue 19:23

Not two nights in a row. But he can protect himself next night
Elrond Tue 19:23

Let's hope I survive until then.
Tue 19:24

@Mod, I know you've said this in a recent game, but I can't recall and the chat log isn't up. What's the order?
Gothmog Tue 19:25

Wait is the mod a person and not a bot?
Tue 19:25

O.O
Sauron Tue 19:25

Mod is a person
Gothmog Tue 19:25

OH
Sauron Tue 19:25

This website is small so
Gothmog Tue 19:25

Whoops, I thought it was a bot
Tue 19:25

My bad
Legolas Tue 19:25

it's a mix :)
Moderator

Elrond votes to put Sauron on trial
Elrond Tue 19:26

See, that's mod-bot.
Legolas Tue 19:26

:D
Gothmog Tue 19:26

Ahh okay, I think i get it now
Aragorn Tue 19:26

shady af omg
Tue 19:27

gotta blast tho maybe i'll be on later !!!
Sauron Tue 19:31

Hey one of the harlots can step out right now. While another harlot keep their identity to themselves. The harlot who steps out can watch Elrond. As you can see, I am not harlot or protector, but mine role is REALLY GOOD. Obvious fact is that I am not on the wolf side.
Moderator

All villager roles visit. Vampire kills, Werewolves kill, SS shifts, Harlot sees visits. I will put this up on the guide at some point
Gothmog Tue 19:32

If a harlot did that then elrond would have to protect them or they'd be dead immediately...
Sauron Tue 19:33

That is good. Harlot will make the protector live one more night.
Tue 19:33

Or see that a wolf visited
Frodo Tue 19:34

Wolf trap!
Sauron Tue 19:34

The protector can protect that harlot too. Tho there are SS to worry about too
Gothmog Tue 19:34

If elrond agrees it's not a bad idea, but it's kinda risky to reveal two roles this early isn't it?
Sauron Tue 19:34

Up to you people.
Gothmog Tue 19:36

Elrond?
Moderator

Sauron votes to put Frodo on trial
WitchKing Tue 19:37

g'evenin' everyone
Sauron Tue 19:37

Frodo talks SO WOLFY.
Tue 19:38

Just look up.
Gothmog Tue 19:38

...
Tue 19:38

If this game had jesters I'd think you were one tbh Sauron
Sauron Tue 19:38

Votes are still balanced right now but Frodo suggests random lynching and gets excited to answer that question
Tue 19:39

And when I comes up with a plan he say it is a wolf trap with no back up
Tue 19:40

Now he is silenced and has nothing to say as I the almighty Sauron saw through his traps. Oh Frodo...
Tue 19:41

My darling WitchKing, you have anything to contribute?
Gothmog Tue 19:43

Apparently your brilliant logic stunned everyone into silence... >.> But I have to leave for work so I'll be back on later, bye all
Sauron Tue 19:44

Rip just another game of werewolv.es
Frodo Tue 19:45

I don't like random lynching but someone suggested it so I said it'd be 25% so it's not too terrible
Tue 19:45

wolf trap is a good thing!
Tue 19:46

"Although even with that I dislike random lynching - it's still a small game"
Sauron Tue 19:46

How dare you call my plan a WOLF TRAP when I am obviously not a wolf.
Frodo Tue 19:46

wait what xD I didn't mean that!
Tue 19:46

I meant we might catch a wolf with harlot on Elrond, like a trap
Sauron Tue 19:46

Yeah 25% chance why can't we lynch you then?
Frodo Tue 19:47

;__; okay go on then
Tue 19:47

My village has forsaken me
Sauron Tue 19:47

Okay fine Frodo, I trust you for now...
Tue 19:48

But I will be watching you closely. At night time I will be outside your window and WATCH you.
Moderator

Sauron votes to put WitchKing on trial
Frodo Tue 19:52

But you said you weren't harlot... :o
Sauron Tue 19:52

Yes I am not harlot
Gollum Tue 19:52

Then what else watches?
Sauron Tue 19:52

I said I will be watching you at night, or AM I? MWAHAHAHA
Tue 19:53

It was a beautiful bluff and now Gollum is here
Gollum Tue 19:53

Bloodhounds watches
Moderator

Sauron votes to put Gollum on trial
Sauron Tue 19:53

Welcome my dear friend.
Tue 19:53

Trying to frame me as Bloodhound already eh?
Gollum Tue 19:53

Why do you put Gollum on trial?
Tue 19:54

Is this some weird initiation?
Sauron Tue 19:54

Are you feeling the danger?
Tue 19:54

Tho votes are balanced right now?
Gollum Tue 19:55

Seers watches too we suppose
Sauron Tue 19:55

When I said I will be watching Frodo at night, I never said I will be visiting him tonight because I have a role or something
Tue 19:55

Frodo looks so beautiful and dangerous. I want to watch him at night.
Tue 19:55

Oh now framing me as Seer? Hmmm that is a possibility too Idk
Gollum Tue 19:56

To caress his face?
Sauron Tue 19:56

But I am no Protector or Harlot
Tue 19:56

Oh yes Frodo's face is a treasure to the human species.
Frodo Tue 19:56

what the..
Sauron Tue 19:57

I can give up my virginity to you right now haha.
Frodo Tue 19:57

Is this...is this what happens in the movies?
Sauron Tue 19:58

You never watched LOTR?
Frodo Tue 19:58

not yet
Sauron Tue 19:58

Oh there is a scene where Sauron tried to **** Frodo. Weirdest scene ever LOL
Tue 19:59

It was so random too.
Tue 19:59

Anyways that is not important. What is important is that Gollum tried to frame me.
Tue 19:59

Oh so evil.
Tue 20:02

WitchKing, Eowyn, Grima are silent. Everyone is so silent. It is just me and myself. I don't feel so well right now.
Gollum Tue 20:03

Hobbitses is not human, not man, they are hobbitses
Tue 20:03

Half men
Tue 20:04

Frame you as a villager? Is that possible?
Merry Tue 20:04

So Elrond is protector and if wolf kill him tonight and harlot visits him also then harlot will be able to tell who wolf is... Unless more than one harlot visits him and then tomorrow assuming elrond dies the harlot will be told about 2 or 3 visitors (wolf + 1 or 2 harlots)?
Sauron Tue 20:05

Yes Merry
Tue 20:05

So if only one of them visits, it will be easy to tell
Tue 20:05

And the other harlot can visits someone else
Legolas Tue 20:05

ok to make this easy
Tue 20:06

the harlot with the name at the top of the alphabet checks elrond
Tue 20:06

the other with a lower start letter checks someone else
Sauron Tue 20:06

OH MY GOD YOU ARE A GENIUS.
Frodo Tue 20:06

But they don't know who is who?
Sauron Tue 20:06

no no wait
Legolas Tue 20:07

well depending on the letter you can guess if you're top
Sauron Tue 20:07

Everyone has the same list of villager right?
Frodo Tue 20:07

I think so yeah
Legolas Tue 20:07

I'm not sure if it worth to out one of them
Sauron Tue 20:07

Like Pippin at the top?
Tue 20:07

And Aragorn at bottom?
Gollum Tue 20:07

Lists are All the same
Sauron Tue 20:07

Oh wait yeah
Merry Tue 20:07

Yes I have that list order
Sauron Tue 20:07

There is no ways of knowing
Legolas Tue 20:07

but we need an indicator
Frodo Tue 20:07

But for example, if I'm one and Witch is another and Witch comes out, he won't know if I'm top or bottom to know who to check D:
Gollum Tue 20:08

R
Frodo Tue 20:08

why doesn't second harlot just watch first harlot?
Legolas Tue 20:08

we have to out someone for that
Frodo Tue 20:09

I thought that was happening
Gollum Tue 20:09

Frodo what you said makes no sense
Frodo Tue 20:09

I thought one was coming out, and watching Elrond
Gollum Tue 20:09

Witch is W, you are F
Sauron Tue 20:09

Yeah Frodo has flawed logic but that is fine.
Gollum Tue 20:09

So highest would watch Elrond, which in this example is you
Frodo Tue 20:10

But he wouldn't know I was the second, in my example :P
Gollum Tue 20:10

And Witchking would watch whoever
Frodo Tue 20:10

second harlot stays hidden , right?
Legolas Tue 20:10

or we just cut the list in ha
Frodo Tue 20:10

maybe I misunderstood the plan
Legolas Tue 20:10

*half
Sauron Tue 20:10

Is Frodo signaling that WitchKing is a harlot? O_o
Frodo Tue 20:10

It was an example!
Sauron Tue 20:10

Just weird... But okay
Merry Tue 20:11

One harlot will need to come forward to be sure of just one check, don't see any other option
Frodo Tue 20:12

Think more deeply then
Sauron Tue 20:12

Yeah, or both harlots ending up watching Elrond
Tue 20:12

But they will at least know who each other are
Legolas Tue 20:13

then we dont know who's the wolf and who's the harlot
Merry Tue 20:13

They won't know for sure though as there will be a wolf in the mix
Legolas Tue 20:13

I think one harlot outing is the safest bet
Sauron Tue 20:13

BH can't be visiting Elrond because it looks like Elrond is undisputed protector
Tue 20:14

And for wolves to go for Elrond tonight? Pretty scaring if you ask me
Tue 20:14

With harlots watching.
Tue 20:15

If only 1 harlot decides to watch Elrond then wolves are screwed
Merry Tue 20:15

Yea tough for them, but two harlot checking means we wouldn't know who wolf is anyway
WitchKing Tue 20:17

Sorry guys, it's been a busy evening
Sauron Tue 20:17

There will be many indicators of who is the real harlot
Merry Tue 20:18

Perhaps one harlot should visit gothmog since he revealed as a role and likely target
WitchKing Tue 20:18

I've unfortunately got nothing of use to contribute, but I'll re-read the chat logs and see if there's anything to add based on the conversations
Sauron Tue 20:18

The first harlot who jumps out and say "Person A and B visited Elrond"
Tue 20:18

And Person A and B both said "First Harlot and A/B visited Elrond"
Tue 20:19

Then we will know that the first harlot is telling the truth for sure. and wolves will be within A or B
Tue 20:19

WitchKing, any contributions are nice :)
Tue 20:21

Gothmog claimed a role? O_o
Tue 20:21

Wait
Tue 20:22

Lemme check
Merry Tue 20:22

Yea the decision would be 1 in 2 I guess, if both harlot visit Elrond and Elrond dies.
Sauron Tue 20:23

AH I got what Gothmog is saying now.
Merry Tue 20:24

I think goth is as likely to die
WitchKing Tue 20:24

okay, so there was a lot of talk about what the harlots should do and not much else
Moderator

I have just pushed an update to the site, if it stops responding, refresh your page
Merry Tue 20:25

Okay witch..??
Sauron Tue 20:27

Witch do you think Harlots should come out right now?
Tue 20:27

Do you think Elrond is the real protector who protected himself?
Tue 20:27

Who are you suspicious of right now?
Tue 20:34

I think standing from mine point of the view: Legolas (Talking skills), Elrond (Only because no counterclaim), Gothmog (For unfortunate reasons) and Sauron (Duh) are near 100% good.
Tue 20:34

Aragorn and WitchKing are mine suspicions, Pippin comes next on the list.
Tue 20:34

Eowyn still hasn't said anything yet :o
Tue 20:35

Along Grima
Moderator

Sauron votes to put WitchKing on trial
Sauron Tue 20:36

Gollum was suspicious of me hmm... He is probably thinking for the village at that time...
Tue 20:37

As for me? Remember: I am the first guy to balance the votes for Pippin. I don't support random lynches without evidence. The person who voted Pippin IIRC just misclicked so no suspicions yet
Merry Tue 20:38

that's not a reason at all lol, first guy to balance the votes haha
Sauron Tue 20:38

I am 100% GOOD! No need to check me. Only BH would check me hehe.
Tue 20:38

@Merry How is that not a reason? Explain.
Merry Tue 20:38

because it happens every single game
Sauron Tue 20:38

And are the wolves the ones doing it?
Merry Tue 20:39

he was never in danger of getting lynched
Elrond Tue 20:39

First guy to balance the votes, and yet he continuously votes and accuses people.
Sauron Tue 20:39

You kidding? Lemme check.
Tue 20:39

I am able to accuse people because I am good.
Tue 20:40

Wolves are p******. Strong individuals can play aggressively. Don't force me to come out @Elrond
Merry Tue 20:40

p*******?
Sauron Tue 20:40

Pippin was put in trial at 5 AM, and I balanced it at 1PM
Merry Tue 20:40

yea, but so what?
Sauron Tue 20:40

So many people were talking.
Tue 20:41

No one balanced it
Tue 20:41

He was about to be lynched.
Merry Tue 20:41

it's meaningless
Sauron Tue 20:41

8 hour
Tue 20:41

No one balanced it
Merry Tue 20:41

it's not even nightfall yet, if you had balanced it NOW then it would be worth something
Sauron Tue 20:41

NO ONE. You think anyone was going to balance it other than me?
Merry Tue 20:41

100%
Sauron Tue 20:42

Eight hours Merry. 8 hours, not a single person balanced it. There was like 6 people online
Tue 20:42

And no one balanced it
Tue 20:42

No one started to talk so much until I came.
Tue 20:43

Why didn't you ask one of them to balance the votes Merry after you accidentally voted Pippin?
Merry Tue 20:43

I didn't accidently vote
Tue 20:44

I didn't ask because I'd rather see what happens
Sauron Tue 20:44

Yeah and you see what happens
Merry Tue 20:44

yea it gets balanced, as it always does...
Sauron Tue 20:44

I came and balanced it. Idk what Pippin's role is but I balanced it
Tue 20:45

Yea 8 hours Merry. No one balanced it in 8 hours.
Tue 20:45

Shoot math is bad I mean 7
Merry Tue 20:45

so you still balanced it at 1pm, it's not even remotely close to nightfall, he was never in any danger of getting lynched at 1-0 8 hours or so before nightfall on DAY2
Sauron Tue 20:46

So am I not supposed to balance it? You don't think it is weird at all that NO ONE balanced it within the 7 hours period?
Merry Tue 20:46

no I don't think that's weird
Tue 20:46

there's nothing wrong with you balancing it
Tue 20:47

but it's hardly proof you are not a wolf lol
Tue 20:47

that's what you claim, I am not a wolf because I balanced votes
Sauron Tue 20:47

Yes because wolves don't try balance votes.
Tue 20:47

Wolves wants randoms to get lynched
Tue 20:47

Wolves doesn't want to start conversations like I did
Tue 20:48

Wolves doesn't want to make other villagers angry like I did.
Tue 20:48

I am no wolf. Don't force me to come out.
Merry Tue 20:48

why do you keep saying that, "don't force me to come out" ??
Legolas Tue 20:48

*popcorn* thats some next lvl discussion
Sauron Tue 20:49

Because I don't want to reveal mine role now just to gain trust from you people.
Merry Tue 20:49

how is anyone forcing you to come out? it's stupid to say it
Sauron Tue 20:49

Keep on firing shots at me like this when I am obviously trying to help.
Merry Tue 20:50

I don't see how claiming you have a role is helpful for village
Sauron Tue 20:51

I don't see how you keep on trying to think that I could be a wolf despite all I have done is helpful for the village.
Legolas Tue 20:51

well some roles can lead to some accusations
Tue 20:51

but I think first night is a bit agressive
WitchKing Tue 20:52

Can we take a step back a secont?
Legolas Tue 20:52

I think it would be bad from Elrond to claim protector if he isn't on the other hand if there is a fake protector, would the real protector come out?
WitchKing Tue 20:52

second*
Sauron Tue 20:52

Oh Hi WitchKing!
WitchKing Tue 20:52

What has Sauron done for the village?
Legolas Tue 20:52

if you fake claim protector you can win in two ways
WitchKing Tue 20:52

I've just got back from eating pizza
Sauron Tue 20:52

Haha now you are attacking me too eh?
WitchKing Tue 20:52

no no, I'm just lazy
Tue 20:52

cba scrolling up
Legolas Tue 20:52

either you are cleaned or you let the real protector come out
Sauron Tue 20:53

If there is a fake protector, the real protector will come out naturally
Merry Tue 20:53

witch has the most wolf like comments so far
Sauron Tue 20:54

Or a wolf might even do counterclaim
Legolas Tue 20:54

for me so far: Sauron: Talks agressive and passionately, Merry is kinda suspicous because he's super arguing and randomly selected pippin, Elrond is clean as long as there is no counter claim
Sauron Tue 20:54

Yes @Legolas
Merry Tue 20:55

Pippin was top of list and I checked voting was working since goth said player selection was not working for him during night
Legolas Tue 20:55

ok I get that one
Tue 20:55

there was some confusion today
Sauron Tue 20:55

WitchKing: Well I just started a bunch of conversation by accusing people based on their chat list.
Tue 20:55

*No list at the end
WitchKing Tue 20:56

ah, okay
Tue 20:56

did we out any specials?
Tue 20:56

did we out any wolves?
Sauron Tue 20:56

No one has found wolves yet
Legolas Tue 20:57

I would still go for one harlot reveal and the rest is set, as long as all ppl are reading
Sauron Tue 20:57

Only thing that happened today is that Elrond stepped out as protector
WitchKing Tue 20:57

(RIP Elrond) :(
Sauron Tue 20:57

And that WitchKing and Aragorn looks kind of suspicious
Tue 20:57

If Harlot watches him, Harlot can see a wolf visiting him potentially
WitchKing Tue 20:58

yeah
Legolas Tue 20:58

who hasn't spoken yet?
Tue 20:58

today
Sauron Tue 20:58

So his death will be worth it, but there will be evil wolves counterclaim stuff.
Tue 20:58

Eowyn and Grima
WitchKing Tue 20:58

probably Harlots should watch Elrond and Sauron
Legolas Tue 20:58

I dont think watch sauron, watch the first harlot
Sauron Tue 20:58

Me or Gothmog or other useful people.
WitchKing Tue 20:59

how will they know who the first harlot is?
Legolas Tue 20:59

but for this we need ONE harlot reveal
WitchKing Tue 20:59

see, I'd say both keep quiet this round
Sauron Tue 20:59

Oh O_o Any reasons?
Legolas Tue 20:59

the problem is if both keep quit, we will have a 50/50
Merry Tue 20:59

Harlots know each other because Frodo has a masterplan
Tue 20:59

think deep people
WitchKing Tue 20:59

top of the list watch Elrond and other watch Sauron
Sauron Tue 20:59

Frodo has a masterplan?
Merry Tue 21:00

yea, it involves thinking deep
Legolas Tue 21:00

he's gonna sneak to mount doom?
Tue 21:00

and destroy the ring?
Sauron Tue 21:00

Oh but they wouldn't know who is at top of the list and who is at the bottom.
Elrond Tue 21:00

Here's the thing.
WitchKing Tue 21:01

Sauron. oh, good point :/
Tue 21:01

<-- idiot
Sauron Tue 21:01

Lol I thought the same thing before so that is fine.
Elrond Tue 21:01

If at least one harlot doesn't reveal who they are today, then tomorrow, when I turn up dead, a wolf can claim harlot and say they saw an innocent villager visit me.
Sauron Tue 21:02

Yes. And other harlots can come out too.
Elrond Tue 21:03

However, if a harlot reveals their role today, and we don't know who the second harlot is or if they are even active, the wolves may not aim for me because they know someone will see them. They'll aim for the harlot, because the second harlot may not be watching.
Legolas Tue 21:03

goood point
Sauron Tue 21:03

Well most people are here.
Legolas Tue 21:04

the harlot who watches the other halot should come out
Tue 21:04

not the one checking elrond
Tue 21:04

but then we lose both harlots in 2 rounds
Sauron Tue 21:04

@Legolas it won't work
Legolas Tue 21:04

wich sucks too
Tue 21:04

damn too
Sauron Tue 21:04

The 2nd harlot has no ways of knowing who is the harlot watching
Legolas Tue 21:04

f it
Tue 21:04

yeah
Tue 21:04

just got the same idea :(
Elrond Tue 21:05

So if we say that the second harlot is inactive or something, then there are two scenarios. One, harlot1 comes out and watches me, and I protect them, and I die. Two, harlot1 comes out and watches me, I protect someone else, and either I or they die.
Legolas Tue 21:06

I'm not sure if we waste too much resources if you protect the harlot and so on, we lose so much for ONE info
Sauron Tue 21:06

It is pretty confusing =_=
Merry Tue 21:06

I don't think it's even worth considering what will happen if one harlot is inactive, too many possibilities
Legolas Tue 21:06

it's like we use 3 roles to get one
Sauron Tue 21:07

Yeah Merry is right
Legolas Tue 21:07

I agree with that
Elrond Tue 21:07

So it's either A) no one else reveals their roles today, I die tonight, you deal with fake harlot claims tomorrow, B) one harlot reveals who they are and watches me, I protect them, I die/I protect someone else and they die, C) both harlots reveal who they are, set up a system, I protect one of them, and me or the other one dies.
Legolas Tue 21:08

if they kill you they can't kill the seer
Tue 21:08

so we will have the seer to figure it out
Elrond Tue 21:08

Okay, okay.
Sauron Tue 21:08

I don't think C is good. Also seer is pretty important too.
Merry Tue 21:08

I can't see the benefit of two harlots revealing
Sauron Tue 21:08

Yeah wolves can come up with counter plans
Elrond Tue 21:09

At the risk of sounding suspicious, I ask that the seer does not check me tonight. There have been no protector counterclaims, and the gravedigger can confirm when I'm dead.
Tue 21:09

The seer needs to focus on finding the wolves.
Legolas Tue 21:09

I agree with that
Sauron Tue 21:10

No seer will check Elrond tonight LOL
Legolas Tue 21:10

I would check one of the active players who talk right now and are not Elrond
Elrond Tue 21:10

So are we agreeing that no harlot will reveal themself today? Or?
Sauron Tue 21:11

Up to the harlots.
Tue 21:11

But no double reveal for sure
Legolas Tue 21:11

I say we leave it like that
Tue 21:11

Elrond doesn't tell who he saves
Aragorn Tue 21:11

lmao is it just me or does anyone else think sauron's the seer ?????
Sauron Tue 21:11

There is SS and BH to consider.
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Legolas votes to put Aragorn on trial
Merry Tue 21:12

not really helpful for village that comment is it Aragorn??
Legolas Tue 21:12

ok dude, thats some suspicious stuff
Aragorn Tue 21:12

oh shit man
Sauron Tue 21:12

lmao is it just me or does anyone else think aragorn's the wolf?????
Aragorn Tue 21:12

true that's not helpful sorry lmao im just makin an observation
Merry Tue 21:12

haha
Aragorn Tue 21:13

like all thish w "don't force me to come out" and "no seer will check elrond tonight LOL" like u hinting at it real bad man
Elrond Tue 21:13

That's true, but was it the wisest thing to say right now?
Sauron Tue 21:14

:)
Aragorn Tue 21:14

,,,,,,,, probably not
Tue 21:14

aight fam look at that smiley face that just confirmed it,,
Legolas Tue 21:14

I'm quite suspicious of both of you right now
Sauron Tue 21:14

But it is good that both of mine suspicions: Aragorn and WitchKing thinks that I am good.
Aragorn Tue 21:14

he think he real smart cause he wants to feel important ,,,
Legolas Tue 21:15

this sounds pretty bait-ish
Aragorn Tue 21:15

damn man im sorry im real new at this
Legolas Tue 21:15

like provoking a save on Sauron
Sauron Tue 21:15

So good to get people talking xD Mine top suspicions are still those two. Idk who Aragorn is @Legolas
Aragorn Tue 21:15

i didn't think abt it when i said it but u gotta admit like look at the evidence he's totally somethin
Legolas Tue 21:16

you're apologizing while not apologizing -_-
Aragorn Tue 21:16

ay man im apologizing i swear im sorry but u gotta admit what im saying is justified
Legolas Tue 21:17

again
WitchKing Tue 21:17

just drop it
Merry Tue 21:17

I am hoping Sauron saying "don't force me to come out" is an attempt to make wolf think he has a role and therefore be killed when he is really just a villager....... because repeatedly saying "don't force me to come out" is as useful to village as Aragorn calling out the Seer
WitchKing Tue 21:17

it's not helping the village
Sauron Tue 21:17

Aragorn is funny. So funny that may be he can be hanged today :o
Elrond Tue 21:18

Logically, if I were Aragorn, and I were a wolf, I would have said that at night to the wolves. I wouldn't have stated it for the village to hear because it makes one seem suspicious.
Merry Tue 21:18

yes
Tue 21:18

makes no sense
Legolas Tue 21:18

not if they both are wolves
Merry Tue 21:18

but then people are playing first games so it's hard to know what to think
Aragorn Tue 21:18

thank u elrond
Tue 21:18

u kno what
Tue 21:19

seer, whoever u may be ,,,, check me tonight see that i am not a wolf
Merry Tue 21:19

better off checking WitchKing
Sauron Tue 21:19

^
WitchKing Tue 21:20

*shrugs* sure
Tue 21:21

he sounds like a SS desperately trying to stay alive
Tue 21:21

so he can shift during the night
Legolas Tue 21:21

wasn't I on top of the list of sauron?
Sauron Tue 21:21

Ah infinite possibilities. Both mine suspicions are asking to be checked.
Tue 21:21

@Legolas you are top of the list for who I think is not a wolf
WitchKing Tue 21:21

I'm not *asking* to be checked
Legolas Tue 21:21

ah
WitchKing Tue 21:22

I'm just not refusing - since really what would the point be?
Sauron Tue 21:22

Because you don't talk evilly.
Aragorn Tue 21:22

aight ok lemme get this straight ,, i say "check me prove im not a wolf" and y'all are like "nah check witchking" and then immediately witchking starts talkin shit abt me ??? aight ok ok
Sauron Tue 21:22

WitchKing thinks you are the SS immediately... Hmmm
Elrond Tue 21:23

This is all very amusing to me.
Merry Tue 21:23

Who thinks one Harlot should reveal and agree to visit Elrond and Elrond agrees to protect that Harlot....... the other Harlot visits someone else, imo Gothmog......... tomorrow if Elrond dies we know who killed him, right? If Elrond lives then all we lose is the secret identity of a Harlot.
Legolas Tue 21:23

Elrond is sentenced to death and just enjoys every moment :)
Elrond Tue 21:23

I know I'm going to die, so I'm just going watch this all unfold. Why not?
Aragorn Tue 21:24

should a harlot reveal tho ?
Legolas Tue 21:24

if we don't reveal Elrond can protect someone else
Merry Tue 21:24

what do you think?
Tue 21:24

he can still protect someone else reveal or not
Legolas Tue 21:25

I think we souldn't talk this through to the end
Tue 21:25

leaves some poker plays open to the roles
Aragorn Tue 21:25

ok then guys, gals, nonbinary pals,,,,,,,,,,,
Tue 21:25

it me, a harlot
Sauron Tue 21:25

Ayy
Merry Tue 21:25

what looks likely to happen now is Elrond dies and tomorrow we have 50/50 decision on who wolf is....... both harlots will reveal then
Tue 21:25

oh okay
Elrond Tue 21:26

I was not expecting that.
Sauron Tue 21:26

@Aragorn You watch Elrond tomorrow.
Tue 21:26

I mean tonight
Aragorn Tue 21:26

will do
Legolas Tue 21:26

Elrond don't say if you gonna save him :)
Sauron Tue 21:26

Yup
Elrond Tue 21:26

I'm unsure of who I'll save, to be completely honest.
Legolas Tue 21:27

look, I always die because I talk too much
Sauron Tue 21:27

Good. Because wolves will be unsure of who to kill too then :P
Aragorn Tue 21:27

i checked grima first night bc he was like "who am i" like for lotr and pretty boy archer over here said smth like "ur backstabbing and miserable"
Sauron Tue 21:27

Don't reveal who you will protect
Aragorn Tue 21:27

so i was like aight ok nothing to go off of so ill check grima,,,, no one visited him
Sauron Tue 21:28

Cool
Merry Tue 21:28

interesting
Sauron Tue 21:28

I think Aragorn is good now.
Legolas Tue 21:28

Elrond I would be glad if you protect me as your last act. Just as a possiblity to consider for you. Or does anyone think I'm a wolve?
Aragorn Tue 21:28

peace sign emojis
Legolas Tue 21:28

of course you can decide yourself
Sauron Tue 21:28

Aragorn, Legolas, Elrond, Sauron, Gothmog all good.
Elrond Tue 21:28

I have three people who I'm considering protecting, but I won't say anything more.
Legolas Tue 21:29

good guy
Sauron Tue 21:29

3 wolves among Frodo, Pippin, WitchKing, Grima, Gollum, Merry, Eowyn
Legolas Tue 21:29

ok Aargon
Merry Tue 21:29

Aragorn is not cleared either
Legolas Tue 21:29

what was the exact message you got
Sauron Tue 21:30

Tho Merry is likely good and Legolas is not THAT confirmed but Legolas talk like a good villager.
Tue 21:30

Aragon talks a lot like good villager
Tue 21:30

I am only making observations
Aragorn Tue 21:30

like when i checked grima????
Legolas Tue 21:30

I want to see a copy paste of aaragorns message
Merry Tue 21:30

a new villager yes
Legolas Tue 21:30

or is that forbidden?=
Merry Tue 21:30

what Lego??
Sauron Tue 21:30

Oh that is forbidden @Legolas
Legolas Tue 21:30

I want to know the wording of the check message
Tue 21:30

because if he fake claims
Merry Tue 21:30

oh, from his night visiting
Sauron Tue 21:30

I don't support meta gaming
Legolas Tue 21:31

mhh yeah
Tue 21:31

I see your point
Sauron Tue 21:31

That is like jailor asking for words in ability, ruins the fun :P
Legolas Tue 21:31

froget it
Aragorn Tue 21:31

damn rly
Legolas Tue 21:31

Sauron is right
Tue 21:31

sorry :)
Aragorn Tue 21:31

i just scrolled all that way up on my phone
Sauron Tue 21:31

It is fine @Legolas :P
Aragorn Tue 21:31

aight
Legolas Tue 21:31

aargon dont do it
Tue 21:31

I take it back, I was just thinking too meta
Sauron Tue 21:32

Yeah we will judge you based off your action. You are fine.
Aragorn Tue 21:32

aight ok lmao
Sauron Tue 21:32

WitchKing on the other hand is awfully suspicious.
Tue 21:34

Also notice how WitchKing asked 2 harlots to visit me and Elrond. From a villager point of view, I am not confirmed good and no one was trusting me. WitchKing's trust could be that he is a wolf and he knows that I am a villager and so he asks harlot to visit me.
Tue 21:34

Who knows, may be WitchKing does trust me cuz I am convincing :/
WitchKing Tue 21:35

maybe I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt - you're talking a lot and that usually makes people a wolf target
Tue 21:36

I don't believe you're "confirmed" and I also don't entirely trust Aragorn either
Sauron Tue 21:36

That makes sense then, I won't be putting mine suspicion off you just yet.
WitchKing Tue 21:36

but for now, I've no reason to distrust either of you so I'll assume you're telling the truth
Legolas Tue 21:37

how about we lynch a super silent one?
Tue 21:38

or we leave the lynch this night
Sauron Tue 21:38

I don't think a lynch would be that good right now...
Legolas Tue 21:41

I think the no-kill night gives us a "free" day
Sauron Tue 21:42

Yeah
Elrond Tue 21:42

Anyways, you all should pray for me because a) I'm going to die in the game and b) I went to a new place to get my eyebrows waxed and I got layers of my skin ripped off. :)
Sauron Tue 21:42

Yikes
Merry Tue 21:42

Wolf killing you is risky
Legolas Tue 21:42

ouch
Merry Tue 21:42

You might live yet
Elrond Tue 21:42

I :) am :) in :) so :) much :) pain :)
Tue 21:42

I may live, that's true.
Merry Tue 21:43

I would say it's 50/50
Tue 21:44

if the ONE wolf is afk...... then there is no kill, right?
Sauron Tue 21:44

SS can kill too.
Legolas Tue 21:44

no, even when it's even a villager dies
Elrond Tue 21:44

What's afk?
Sauron Tue 21:44

Away from keyboard
Merry Tue 21:44

SS can kill alone, for sure?
Sauron Tue 21:44

I had experiences of playing a game where there are two shapeshifters and no other wolves
Merry Tue 21:45

yes but what about when there is a living wolf and SS
Sauron Tue 21:45

Not sure any more...
Tue 21:45

If there is no wolf kill tomorrow then we should consider that.
Legolas Tue 21:45

do wolves need more than 1 vote?
Merry Tue 21:45

where is the page about the roles, it's gone?
Eowyn Tue 21:45

I'm really sorry, but I have just got in from work and I feel that by the time I have caught up on today's discussions i will not have time to do anything, so unless anything drastically changed my mind i will be abstaining from voting this evening
Sauron Tue 21:46

Ooh we can Email [email protected]
Tue 21:46

Hello Eowyn!
Merry Tue 21:47

Eowyn do you know if the SS can vote at night to kill someone by himself?
Moderator

There is a link to the old 'About' page on the 'How to Play' page, which lists what the various roles do
Sauron Tue 21:47

Thank you Mod
Tue 21:48

The old "about" page is not too clear on that too
WitchKing Tue 21:48

Merry, yes they can
Merry Tue 21:49

ok
Tue 21:49

so just one of the SS+WW needs to be active to kill.... SS can kill alone without having to use ability
Sauron Tue 21:50

Yes
Moderator

The Shapeshifter can vote with the other wolves to kill, then can elect to shift into whoever is killed
Sauron Tue 21:51

Thank you Mod again.
Merry Tue 21:51

yea so last night either they were both AFK, consciously decided not to kill or they attacked the protector
Tue 21:52

only attacking the protector seems likely
Tue 21:52

11% chance
Legolas Tue 21:52

IF they don't kill the protector, he lives another 2 rounds
Tue 21:52

because he can protect himself again
Sauron Tue 21:52

That is way too unlikely.
Merry Tue 21:53

both being AFK or deciding not to kill unlikely yes
Legolas Tue 21:53

why we talk about 2?
Tue 21:53

we have 3 right
Merry Tue 21:53

oh yea, bloodhound right?
Legolas Tue 21:53

yeeep
Merry Tue 21:53

forgot
Legolas Tue 21:54

I think there is alomst no chance that 3 dudes were afk
Merry Tue 21:54

yea so even more unlikely
Legolas Tue 21:54

and all were wolves
Sauron Tue 21:54

Since the day is ending: Pippin, Gollum, Frodo. Those three are mine 3 wolf candidates at the end of the day. BH can find out more and more roles as the time go on. Seer should consider stepping out tomorrow and give two active checks.
Elrond Tue 21:55

Five minutes until I die. :'(
Sauron Tue 21:55

We will see what the wolves decide when we wake up.
Elrond Tue 21:55

Well. Not exactly.
Legolas Tue 21:55

I think they have to kill him
Elrond Tue 21:56

I die at some point within the next twelve hours, so
Sauron Tue 21:56

Yeah who knows who will they go for.
Legolas Tue 21:56

if they dont kill him they can't kill him the next round
Sauron Tue 21:56

Village: Be wary of people who claims Seer, Graverobber, and Gravedigger if I die tonight.
Elrond Tue 21:56

Let's hope Aragorn follows through and checks who visits me.
Sauron Tue 21:57

Yeah the other harlot... Up to them.
Legolas Tue 21:58

"bring ppl. to talk, even when you have to use force!" are my last words if I die tonight :)
Merry Tue 21:58

Elrond =protector and Aragorn =Harlot, plus Goth=unknown role........ three 'safe' villager roles....... so three targets for SS also...... tomorrow or next days if we see for example Pippin dying and Elrond/Aragorn/Goth living then I will be suspicious of SS
Sauron Tue 21:58

Aragorn talk a lot like a real harlot. I think he should be trusted.
Tue 21:58

Yeah what Merry said.
Aragorn Tue 21:58

yo yo yo 2 min to go
Sauron Tue 21:59

If some random Gollum or Frodo dies we have to think that it could be a SS
Legolas Tue 21:59

I like this round guys, so much talk and thinking
Sauron Tue 21:59

Goodnight and good luck :)
Tue 21:59

Yeah nice day
Legolas Tue 21:59

o7
Merry Tue 21:59

all my games where I live are lots of talk
Aragorn Tue 21:59

lmao why does lego think he gonna die
Tue 21:59

aight bye fam
Sauron Tue 21:59

If :P
Legolas Tue 21:59

IF
Aragorn Tue 22:00

peace sign emojis
Legolas Tue 22:00

there was an IF
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