Mafia Replay - Lord of the Rings Identities

Replay

This is a log of a game of werewolves started on the 23rd July 2016 on a 24 hour cycle (12h day, 12h night).
This is a spoiler free version, use the user button (top menu) to see who was alive at the time, and the calendar button or links below the chat to navigate through to different days.
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Killed

Pippin was killed during the night
Day 3
Moderator

The sun rises, the village is safe from the werewolves for now. Discuss who you think is a wolf, soon you will get a chance to lynch them
Legolas

Active during the last day
Gollum

Active during the last day
Merry

Active during the last day
Gothmog

Active during the last day
Frodo

Active during the last day
Eowyn

Active during the last day
WitchKing

Active during the last day
Legolas Wed 10:01

oh that's kinda suprising
Gothmog Wed 10:02

uhm
Wed 10:02

Does your active list looks weird as well?
Legolas Wed 10:03

yes
Wed 10:03

half of the ppl. talking yesterday missing
Gothmog Wed 10:04

Ok I thought I did something wrong lol
Legolas Wed 10:05

ok so... why pippin?
Moderator

Voting is now open to lynch the next werewolf
Gothmog Wed 10:10

I don't know
Wed 10:10

I will go to sleep and be back in a few hours, it's late.
Eowyn Wed 10:14

i think there are two options really A) possibly the wolves may have thought that Pippin could be one of the Harlots, and decided to try and take him out, or B) they didnt want to fall for the Kill the protector trap and just killed another random person instead, and just happened to pick Pippin...
Legolas Wed 10:15

I think option 2
Eowyn Wed 10:15

or actually C) Pippin was the shapeshifter and has used Elrond's comonig out as the protector to shapeshift... and Elrond will actually be Pippin in disguise
Legolas Wed 10:16

good point
Eowyn Wed 10:19

TBH, i read most of yesterdays chat and I'm a little suspicious of Sauron..
Wed 10:20

He seemed overly brass and confident, like claiming a special villager role will prevent people questioning his role, and his frequent voting for different people
Frodo Wed 10:22

Pippin was a number one suspect yesterday so it seems counter productive to kill him, unless bloodhound had found that he was actually a special role.
Eowyn Wed 10:22

and his argument about how he balanced the vote means nothing, he didnt need to do that when he did it and it certainly doesnt indicate whether he is good of evil, i would of thought somebody on the village side would have waitied to decide if he wanted to balance the vote or least put some thought behind who he was going to vote on to ballance/ accuse, which is basically what he did to everybody that he accused
Frodo Wed 10:23

If he was SS then the trap will have worked and we will hear about it from Aragon surely
Legolas Wed 10:23

true
Eowyn Wed 10:23

possibly
Frodo Wed 10:24

Eowyn I agree about sauron , I recognise the player and I know he's a fan of wolves claiming roles, it feels like he is setting up to claim something big
Legolas Wed 10:25

you guys think pippin had a role? he was first put on trail by merry
Frodo Wed 10:27

GD can always confirm
Eowyn Wed 10:27

GD can if they are still alove and active
Frodo Wed 10:27

Unless he WAS GD and they knew this...
Gollum Wed 10:27

That's an odd activity log, we thought there would be more than that
Frodo Wed 10:27

Yeah it is quite odd
Legolas Wed 10:28

Sauron is not on it
Gollum Wed 10:28

Good point
Wed 10:28

He was most definitely active
Wed 10:30

So since he hasn't started talking yet, Frodo what do you suspect Sauron will claim?
Eowyn Wed 10:33

It could just be a bug in the system, most ,liely doenst mean anything
Merry Wed 10:56

Well Pippin dying is either Bloodhound found role or SS for me. If it's SS then top suspects are the 'safe' villagers Aragorn (harlot), Gothmog (claimed role) and Elrond (protector). Pippin sounded a bit iffy when suggesting a random kill, I think it's an odd kill for wolves (unless Bloodhound found his role) as he had a little suspicion on him.
Wed 11:05

If Bloodhound found role then we have to be wary of fake claim
Moderator

Merry votes to put Grima on trial
WitchKing Wed 11:48

@Merry: Any reason for choosing Grima?
Eowyn Wed 12:26

There's no way to guarantee that pippin was a bloodhound find, no guarantee that he was a shapeshiter, or that he had a special role. It's just as likely that he could just have been a random choice, after one night, there's no guarantees that the wolves have found anything. I don't think we should get caught up with why he was killed, just be wary of the possibility of a false claim
Wed 12:26

I still think Sutton is the most suspicious so far
WitchKing Wed 12:26

Sutton = Sauron?
Wed 12:27

(I hate it when Swype doesn't do these names x_x)
Frodo Wed 12:27

Gollum- he set it up yesterday as either seer/GD/GR so maybe he's waiting to see if any of those are claimed first today
Wed 12:27

And that's true, they could even have been trying to cause us to doubt eachother by killing a suspect
Wed 12:28

Well, the 3 confirmeds anyway
WitchKing Wed 12:29

I'm not sure we can entirely trust a "confirmed" either, can we ... there's always the chance they are a wolf and came out early to draw out a role
Wed 12:29

Just because no-one counted doesn't mean they're not lying
Frodo Wed 12:29

Did they change GR to one time use btw? or does it still just fail for villager so that you can try again?
Wed 12:29

Oh true!
Legolas Wed 12:30

I have no clue about GR
WitchKing Wed 12:30

I assume you can try again, seems a bit unfair otherwise?
Legolas Wed 12:30

never played it
Wed 12:30

but I think you can try again if there is no role
Frodo Wed 12:31

It was that way before but they were discussing changing it in a lobby a while back..
WitchKing Wed 12:32

I think it would be underpowered if you couldn't try again - since if there isn't a GD or they're dead then out would turn into a 1-use gamble
Legolas Wed 12:32

for me Gothmog is not a safe villager, he vaguely indictated something, I'm not sure about the other two either
WitchKing Wed 12:33

They're are two harlots, so Aragorn *could* be lying
Legolas Wed 12:33

claiming protector can be a sacrifice play to find the real one
Wed 12:33

but for me Elrond is most authentic
WitchKing Wed 12:33

It makes sense, with the no death and all that
Legolas Wed 12:34

I think the first one to come out is the most trustworthy, and most risky part
Wed 12:35

Aaragorn kinda redeemed himself, but I still found his start not helpful
Wed 12:35

so I'm still a bit suspicious of him
Wed 12:35

I just don't get the "Sauron has a special role right guys?" part.
WitchKing Wed 12:35

When was that said?
Legolas Wed 12:36

yesterday evening, when I put him on trail instantly
Wed 12:36

what bothers me a bit, is we have 2 guys who claim to be new and indicated some stuff
WitchKing Wed 12:37

Sauron was being really weird - he seemed to be claiming a special role not revealing it? Which it a bit stupid as if he's truthful he's made himself at best a BH target and at worst a wolf target
Wed 12:37

And might die without revealing to the village
Wed 12:38

I think he needs to tell us today if he's a special or not otherwise all he's doing is confusing the village
Frodo Wed 12:42

I thought Sauron would be dead today, since he's trying to take lead of the village which wolves should be averse to, but is not confirmed enough to be protected by anyone, and I had this same type of suspicion in the last game which turned out right
Wed 12:43

Suspicious that he is still alive, I mean
WitchKing Wed 12:43

My guess would be that (if he's not a wolf) the BH checked him last night, and they'll kill him tonight
Frodo Wed 12:43

and yeah Gothmog was really odd and around at 10:00 on the dot but I know there are a few genuine new players in here
Legolas Wed 12:44

I'm just worried, there was one kinda role-claim by gothmog, and aaragorns strage play
Frodo Wed 12:44

Aragorn was hilarious I wish I'd still been around for that part xD
Wed 12:45

I guess we wait and see what he says today, since harlot may be an easy one to false claim early...but the other harlot will be knowing if another comes out that isn't them --
Legolas Wed 12:45

he got so much slack, and then went to harlot
Wed 12:45

maybe BH?
Wed 12:45

bh giving some hints?
Wed 12:46

but I never managed to be werevole, is there a permanent chat up for them?
Frodo Wed 12:46

:O hmmm...
Legolas Wed 12:46

I know there is a grave chat
Wed 12:47

but can wolfs chat freele?
Frodo Wed 12:47

No they can only talk at night like on salem
WitchKing Wed 12:47

^^ this
Legolas Wed 12:47

ok would still not be worth it to hint something publicly
Wed 12:47

I take that one back
Frodo Wed 12:48

I was in a game where someone was suspected for saying hello in different ways each morning as being a BH check code, but they weren't BH in the end, but that means it might still be a thing that occurs
Legolas Wed 12:48

buuut Aargon could have seen Sauron visit someone without the person deing
Wed 12:48

eh dieing
Frodo Wed 12:49

I thought he watched Grima and saw nothing ?
Wed 12:49

and Elrond last night I believe?
Legolas Wed 12:49

which would fit a seer or a protector save, but protector is out of question when we believe Elrond
Wed 12:50

but why would he jump on Sauron then?
Frodo Wed 12:51

Elrond sounds genuine unless he's a wolf that risked early claim opportunity and the real one is inactive or a newbie who doesn't realise there's only 1
Wed 12:51

I was in a game where the GR didn't even know what they were doing and it was like day 3 or 4...
Legolas Wed 12:55

but should we give elrond a timer, if he doesn't die within X we have to assume he got shapeshifted?
WitchKing Wed 12:56

No
Wed 12:56

All your doing then is offering the wolves a guaranteed lynch one day
Wed 12:57

If we think he's been SS'd into, we should lynch him and if we don't then we leave him alive
Legolas Wed 13:06

so how do we do that?
WitchKing Wed 13:09

Based on how they talk, activity times, whether harlot sees them protecting someone
Frodo Wed 13:12

I'm so good at finding an SS >:D
Legolas Wed 13:13

aha
Frodo Wed 13:13

Then again I only recognise 3 players here so far..
Wed 13:13

my powers are failing me
Legolas Wed 13:14

so who do you recognize?
WitchKing Wed 13:16

Legolas is the annoying elf, Sauron is the evil guy who likes jewellery and Gollum is the evil ugly guy who likes jewellery
Wed 13:16

Idk about anyone else
Legolas Wed 13:17

:((
Wed 13:17

and you have some ring fetish!
WitchKing Wed 13:17

Shhhh, we're not here to talk about my issues
Frodo Wed 13:18

Definitely recognise Sauron
Legolas Wed 13:18

his writing style sets him apport^^
Wed 13:18

appart..
Frodo Wed 13:19

and I know he's the master of faking wolf
Legolas Wed 13:19

faking wolf??
Frodo Wed 13:19

I mean wolf faking something
Legolas Wed 13:19

ahhh
Wed 13:19

kk, I was confused for a moment
Frodo Wed 13:20

But also could just be excited to have a cool role
Wed 13:21

and I think I recognise 2 or maybe even 4 more but not as confident in those :D
Wed 13:22

perhaps you are one who hasn't been here for a while
Legolas Wed 13:26

yeah I'm kinda new, don't kill me!
Frodo Wed 13:28

Why would we kill you? :O are you...a wolf?
WitchKing Wed 13:29

FWIW: when we play irl we have a rule of thumb - if you say that you're confused or mention statistics then you're a wolf
Legolas Wed 13:31

So Frodo, you said "we"
Wed 13:31

Is we the wolves?
Frodo Wed 13:31

No, us lot
Legolas Wed 13:31

because I made no mention of lynching
Frodo Wed 13:31

oh I just assumed it was lynching :P
Legolas Wed 13:32

no I don't think I will get lynched
Wed 13:33

would be a bad move anyway
Frodo Wed 13:45

We could all say that about ourselves :o
Merry Wed 13:45

What do you think about lynching tonight then? Based on what's been said so far?
Legolas Wed 13:45

yeah but some of you would be lying :D
Merry Wed 13:46

Grima doesn't seem to be participating, that's why I voted him
Wed 13:47

To answer witch, from hours ago^
Legolas Wed 13:47

I'm still suspicious of Aaragorn
Merry Wed 13:48

For suggesting sauron was seer?
Legolas Wed 13:53

yes, I haven't recovered from that play
Wed 13:53

still blows my mind
Wed 13:53

on the other hand, I read through day2 chat, and Gollum is kinda suspicious for me
Wed 13:54

he never voiced any kind of opinion, just riding along making comments, correcting some small stuff
Wed 13:54

answering 1-2 mechanics related questions
Merry Wed 13:55

Yea, gollum and witch yesterday similar reasons for suspicion
Legolas Wed 13:57

I think witch made some more useful comments today
Wed 13:57

stuff with an actual opinion in it
Frodo Wed 13:58

Gollum asking me what I thought Sauron will claim made me think of Jin+Jacob from the last one >_>
Merry Wed 13:58

Yea changed a little for witch today
Gollum Wed 13:59

We've just read today's conversations, and we would like to say we haven't said much of use because we have been busy and just wanted to show we are still active
Legolas Wed 13:59

@Frodo :D
Gollum Wed 14:00

We can also stop saying "we", but gollum had a spilt personality so was just going with it...
Frodo Wed 14:00

OH..I was wondering about that
Merry Wed 14:00

Frodo - what does that mean? I didn't play last game.
Gollum Wed 14:01

Figured should point it out since not everyone has seen the films :x
Legolas Wed 14:01

Gollum I got your back on this one! fk dwarfs
Wed 14:01

and yeah major complaint, there is no gimmli
Gollum Wed 14:02

I was thinking that this morning
Merry Wed 14:02

Last game was lost theme?
Legolas Wed 14:02

yes
Frodo Wed 14:02

I don't wanna be a Frodo either :(
Gollum Wed 14:03

But to contribute... I'm not sure what to make of Sauron, which is why I asked frofo this morning
Legolas Wed 14:03

frodo can you explain more which play you menat
Wed 14:03

eh meant... mobile ftw...
Frodo Wed 14:03

Just someone asking a question for somebody else, it turned out they were both wolves in that one
Wed 14:03

I think it happens a lot though so it's only because it's in my mind from recent
Gollum Wed 14:04

I don't recall that, but I'm genuinely interested in what yuppy think
Wed 14:04

You*
Legolas Wed 14:04

ok, lets turn this around, who has a villager vibe in your opinion?
WitchKing Wed 14:04

Witch is not active now because he? it? doesn't have another game to worry about :p
Wed 14:04

More*
Frodo Wed 14:05

^same
Gollum Wed 14:05

@Legolas, I have a feeling you are village, based on the Gimli comment
Frodo Wed 14:05

Merry perhaps
Gollum Wed 14:05

And probably a bunch of legitimate stuff if I put my mind to it
Wed 14:06

I've not picked up any Wolfe vibes from Frofo either
Wed 14:06

Frodo*
Wed 14:07

Could be a harlot though *:D
Frodo Wed 14:07

How dare you!
Gollum Wed 14:07

Sorry :x
Frodo Wed 14:07

;D
Gollum Wed 14:08

You free tonight?
Wed 14:08

Mordor and chill?
Frodo Wed 14:08

Legolas seems villagey, even though Witch said that he looked wolfy for the 'confused' comment
Wed 14:08

omg
Wed 14:08

First Sauron, now you D:
WitchKing Wed 14:09

Merry seems a bit lynch happy to me, but idk, maybe he just has a rope fetish or something?
Gollum Wed 14:09

Wait, Sauron did that one already?
Frodo Wed 14:09

but it's usually wolves trying to frame the lynch happy type, in my experience they usually turn out to be village
Wed 14:10

Of course, every game is different...
Legolas Wed 14:10

Frodo I was confused about your wording, I'm not confused about the game like you do in the wolf way
Gollum Wed 14:10

I've only played one game before so have nothing to go off
Legolas Wed 14:11

I absolutely get the "Oh sry I don't have an opinion right now, it's so confusing ask me later thx bb"
Wed 14:12

what you think of the theory that ppl. like grima could be villagers, without any roles. It can be demotivating
Frodo Wed 14:14

I know , that's why it sounded like Witch wanted to frame you
Legolas Wed 14:15

I think that would be a pretty weak attempt
Frodo Wed 14:15

Your wording is confusing me now..:P
WitchKing Wed 14:15

Oh, I didn't mean to apply it to this version
Wed 14:15

Just wanted to give you an "interesting" fact
Frodo Wed 14:16

Grima is hella ugly
Legolas Wed 14:16

Fordo you mean the villager part?
Frodo Wed 14:16

Yeah
Legolas Wed 14:17

ok, last game we lynched tons of silent ppl. too bad they were the villagers
Frodo Wed 14:17

Of course there'll be some role-less villagers, you mean it's demotivating that they don't come play anyway?
Wed 14:17

Ahh yeah!
Gollum Wed 14:17

Any one considered Eowyn? She seems to work all through the day with no/few comments until close to 10pm, or right at start?
Wed 14:17

That's got to suck
Legolas Wed 14:18

so the vanilla villagers stay silent, because they feel they can't contribute to the case in a meaningful way
Gollum Wed 14:18

But perhaps she is lucky enough (for her) to be a night player?
Wed 14:18

Just putting the idea out there
Legolas Wed 14:21

I kinda got a deja vu with that "hey I'm back from work, really got no time sry"
Wed 14:21

throw 1-2 sentences out there, be gone again
Wed 14:24

anyone else from last game remembers?
Frodo Wed 14:30

True! I think that's the same player maybe
Wed 14:32

but, that's quite common for wolves or SS to say, as is (from my experience now playing about 10 games here) comments on how real life is bad/I'm sick/someone is sick tends to ALWAYS be a wolf D:
Wed 14:33

I can now remember 4 games in particular where that happened
Legolas Wed 14:36

I don't want to accuse anyone of lying about rl issues, I just got a deja vu
Frodo Wed 14:37

I just remember it because I always feel really sad for them but then they turned out to be wolves ;_;
Gollum Wed 14:37

It's really weird that seems to happen
Wed 14:37

By chance
Legolas Wed 14:40

since we assume Elrond is the true protector (ha ha), would it make sense to presure Aragorn?
Wed 14:41

eh wrong
Wed 14:41

I meant Gothmog
Frodo Wed 14:41

Why? :o
Wed 14:41

oh
Wed 14:42

Yeah, although if he is anything he basically admitted that he missed the first night check so
Wed 14:42

Surely he isn't protector?
Wed 14:42

I better check what times he was on compared to Elrond
Legolas Wed 14:42

I think he's US TZ?
Frodo Wed 14:42

Wait nevermind, forgot there was no night 1 kill so we ruled that out already I remember
Legolas Wed 14:42

or what do you mean?
Merry Wed 14:43

It's not uncommon for wolves, make an excuse not to participate. Eowyn did say quite a lot this morning for 20 mins or so. Another to suspect sauron because of his odd defensive play yesterday
Frodo Wed 14:43

Yesterday morning he was confused about skill that he was trying to ask for advice publicly here until we told him the mod email
Legolas Wed 14:43

yeah but she hopped on some existing suspicion, aka. Wolf play
Frodo Wed 14:43

Unless he's just a really smart new guy with no role trying to be bait
Legolas Wed 14:44

sry to say " I think it's Sauron" is no news
Merry Wed 14:44

Hmm my text wasn't updating:/ I was replying to Lego at 14:21
Frodo Wed 14:44

Oh that means it's either her or Sauron and not both then? :/
Legolas Wed 14:45

Jacob accused Ethan last game
Gollum Wed 14:45

And they were both wolves
Legolas Wed 14:45

both were Wolves, why not
Wed 14:45

compared to mafia, Wolves don't lose killpower
Wed 14:47

I just say that piggybacking on Sauron is not that hard
Gollum Wed 14:47

Sauron talks so much it's easy for things to get lost in the chatter xD
Legolas Wed 14:48

on the other hand in her defense, her thoughts about the Shapeshifter were not that bad and was some new input
Wed 14:49

Which makes me lean towards town a bit
Merry Wed 14:49

Are you talking about Eowyn?
Legolas Wed 14:49

yes
Merry Wed 14:50

Did wolves win last game? Where they were accusing each other?
Legolas Wed 14:50

yes
Merry Wed 14:51

Hmm:)
Wed 14:54

I wish Aragorn would speak
Legolas Wed 14:54

or Grima
Frodo Wed 14:55

Aragorn didn't appear till quite late yesterday
Legolas Wed 14:55

I would keep grima on trail until he says something useful
Merry Wed 14:55

Gothrog was so keen yesterday, thought he would be keen again today to report on whether his role working now
Legolas Wed 14:55

Merry good observation!
Frodo Wed 14:55

He;s ugly so he must be a werewolf :o
Wed 14:56

When did Goth wake up
Merry Wed 14:56

Early
Legolas Wed 14:56

but he said it was late from him
Merry Wed 14:56

I think he mentioned cockerel
Frodo Wed 14:56

I think he's the one I was talking to in lobby who had like California time zone
Legolas Wed 14:57

it's 7am in california
Wed 14:57

so must have been super late for him
Merry Wed 14:57

Ok
Legolas Wed 14:58

good observation but would probably give him the benefit of doubt that he didn't want to start a big conversation that late
Merry Wed 15:00

I wonder where Aragorn lives, anyone know?
Wed 15:04

If Pippin was SS and he went into Elrond, would the visit by Harlot (Aragorn) say that Elrond was visited by Pippin?
Legolas Wed 15:05

logic wise I think it should
Elrond Wed 15:08

Oh my god, I'm alive!
Frodo Wed 15:08

Yeah I think so! What if Aragorn was a wolf that claimed harlot just for this moment though :/
Merry Wed 15:08

Are you really...?
Frodo Wed 15:08

And that would mean nobody was watching Elrond at all
Wed 15:09

Hi Elrond!
Legolas Wed 15:09

Elrond how are your nails?
Wed 15:09

better?
Merry Wed 15:09

Yea could happen Frodo
Elrond Wed 15:09

My nails?
Frodo Wed 15:09

wasn't it eyebrows
Elrond Wed 15:09

Yeah, it was my eyebrows.
Legolas Wed 15:09

/o\
Wed 15:09

you just ruined it frodo :(
Merry Wed 15:09

Lol
Frodo Wed 15:09

OHH NOO
Wed 15:09

I see now
Elrond Wed 15:09

Nice try!
Frodo Wed 15:09

It was cause I need to do mine too xD
Merry Wed 15:10

Lego has been waiting since 10am to ask that
Legolas Wed 15:10

kinda :P
Wed 15:10

I thought it was worth a try
Frodo Wed 15:10

I will commit Seppuku
Merry Wed 15:10

:)
Elrond Wed 15:10

I don't know how to prove to you I haven't been SSed into.
Frodo Wed 15:10

But I think SS would be careful on such details anyway, I mean even I remembered it so clearly
Legolas Wed 15:11

if the GD checks Pippin, will he see something if he was the SS?
Frodo Wed 15:11

a clear and painful imagery
Elrond Wed 15:11

Very painful.
Wed 15:12

I'm on a bit earlier than usual because I have a history exam in two hours. Yikes.
Legolas Wed 15:13

I mean if the GD sees some shapeshifter remaints or something
Wed 15:13

or the role?
Frodo Wed 15:13

That is the same Elrond
Elrond Wed 15:13

Hmm?
Frodo Wed 15:13

I recognise you ;D
Elrond Wed 15:14

Oh! I thought you have missed a comma between same and Elrond and I got really confused.
Legolas Wed 15:15

I think I meta this game way too much
Wed 15:15

:/
Elrond Wed 15:15

I have to go, but I'll pop back in two/three hours before nightfall!
Legolas Wed 15:16

good luck :)
Frodo Wed 15:16

Ahh maybe I shouldn't meta, but of course it could be someone replicating the player perfectly too
Legolas Wed 15:16

nah I just thought of some more ways to confirm Elrond
Wed 15:16

but all are a bit too meta
Merry Wed 15:17

What does meta stand for? If anything?
Frodo Wed 15:17

Kinda like using stuff outside of the actual gameplay
Legolas Wed 15:17

yeah using some unwritten/out of game stuff
Merry Wed 15:18

Yea I get what you mean by it
Legolas Wed 15:18

Like if frodo recognizes Elrond he could ask stuff about previous games or what ever
Merry Wed 15:19

Just curious behind the history of the word
Legolas Wed 15:19

or my super bad idea to ask aragorn for the text and so on
Frodo Wed 15:19

oh yeah I don't think either of those are allowed
Legolas Wed 15:19

But I think the nails question was in the allowed part :)
Frodo Wed 15:20

I feel like there might not even have been an SSing yet
WitchKing Wed 15:21

@Merry, it comes from Greek, I believe
Legolas Wed 15:21

it would be a pretty obvious point to do it
Wed 15:21

but I just wanted to try it ;)
WitchKing Wed 15:21

It's a prefix for something that is, ummm, like super to the original thing?
Wed 15:21

So uh, a metajoke would be a joke about a joke, or something like that?
Frodo Wed 15:22

a game about a game
Wed 15:22

a story about a story.. :o
Merry Wed 15:22

Never heard of it, anyway back to suspicions and accusations
WitchKing Wed 15:23

In this, it's short for something like meta gameplay: your game transcends the game space and into real life
Wed 15:23

That kind of thing.
Legolas Wed 15:28

somestimes it's also described as some unwritten optimal way to play something
Wed 15:44

ok the meta killed all the accusations!
Wed 15:49

btw. why didn't I get a proper response for my question "what happens when a GD checks a shapeshifter body"?
WitchKing Wed 15:54

"Unknown" i think
Legolas Wed 15:54

if I think longer about it, the response from Frodo and Elrond seems super fishy to me. Yeah it was a good joke but they immediately changed the topic.
Wed 15:55

or did I miss something and it was NOT a legit question?
Sauron Wed 16:13

Hello friends. Woke up in the morning and Pippin is dead?? So she could be a Shapeshifter, Seer who got BH'd night 1, or a random wolf kill. It is day 3 and the seer still hasn't stepped out yet?? Only people who hasn't talked are me, Aragorn, and Grima. So I think the seer is most likely dead :( x_x
Legolas Wed 16:14

The GD should check pippin
Wed 16:14

and maybe come out if he was actually the seer
Sauron Wed 16:14

As for mine action yesterday, I just wanted to start a discussion. GD can only check Pippin if no one lynched today.
Legolas Wed 16:15

I think we should actually lynch someone today
Sauron Wed 16:15

How about let's just do a role call? Idk how will that work cuz never tried it before.
Legolas Wed 16:16

whats that?
Sauron Wed 16:16

Oh basically everyone just claim a role. It will narrow down who the possible wolves are.
Wed 16:16

Tho it does give Wolves a lot of info but they already have a BH who can read us villager's role
Wed 16:17

I read the chat log and really, no idea of who to lynch today.
Legolas Wed 16:18

I want to pressure grima
Sauron Wed 16:18

Both sides of the teams are playing too passively zZzZz
Wed 16:18

Pressure Grima when she/he is not even here?
Wed 16:18

Wait lemme check activity log
Legolas Wed 16:18

the activity log is broken
Wed 16:18

shows like half of the ppl.
Sauron Wed 16:19

Yeah the activity log looks weird but it doesn't even say that she is active
Legolas Wed 16:19

it doesn't say you are active
Wed 16:19

and I know you were
Wed 16:19

because we talked quite a lot
Sauron Wed 16:19

I guess :/
Legolas Wed 16:20

I don't like the role call idea, but I think the GD should check pippin and come out next day if he was seer, else I guess bad luck
Wed 16:21

I think only seer has the importance to reveal the GD
Sauron Wed 16:21

Frodo, Merry, Gollum, Legolas, WitchKing, Grima, Eowyn - 3 wolves and 3 villagers lies within them.
Legolas Wed 16:21

??
Sauron Wed 16:21

So @ Legolas, which 3 do you think are the wolves. Oh I am also assuming that Gothmog has a night ability and Aragorn is telling the truth
Legolas Wed 16:22

so you sorted out the claimed roles right?
Wed 16:23

but w8 you are not on the list
Sauron Wed 16:23

Duh because I know I am good.
Gollum Wed 16:24

but we don't :p
Legolas Wed 16:24

but you listed me
Sauron Wed 16:24

Oh hello Gollum
Gollum Wed 16:24

we can assume you are
Legolas Wed 16:24

why you ask me to comment on a list I'm on?
Sauron Wed 16:24

Yeah I said 3 villagers lies within them @Legolas
Legolas Wed 16:25

mkey
Sauron Wed 16:25

Why are you getting so worked up over a simple question?
WitchKing Wed 16:26

@Gollum - are you a wolf?
Gollum Wed 16:26

no
WitchKing Wed 16:26

I don't believe you
Gollum Wed 16:26

i mean, would a wolf admit to being one anyway?
Wed 16:26

but no, i'm not
Sauron Wed 16:26

:o Hello WitchKing
WitchKing Wed 16:27

Helli Mr S
Wed 16:27

Hello, even
Wed 16:27

@Gollum - convince me you're not a wolf
Legolas Wed 16:27

I think Grima is either a vanilla villager or a wolf
Wed 16:28

no role
Gollum Wed 16:28

lets say i can visit people
Legolas Wed 16:28

he could have a wolf role
Wed 16:29

if Wolf role probably BH, Charlotte style
WitchKing Wed 16:30

@Sauron - did you think Gollum was very convincing?
Sauron Wed 16:30

No idea.
Legolas Wed 16:30

I thought there is more to come when Gollum said that ^^
Sauron Wed 16:30

There is no leads here.
Wed 16:30

Visit people at night?
Wed 16:30

Seer should come out right now.
Legolas Wed 16:30

ehm nope?
Sauron Wed 16:30

Yes.
Wed 16:31

It is day 3 already
WitchKing Wed 16:31

@Gollum - let's pretend i believe you... who are you suspicious of?
Legolas Wed 16:31

Sauron, I think only if he had 2 correct hits, or 1 hit + pippin
WitchKing Wed 16:32

At this point, I agree with Sauron...we need something
Sauron Wed 16:32

@WitchKing What made you suspicious of Gollum>
Gollum Wed 16:32

why would the seer come out, surely they would get killed next night?
Wed 16:32

(@Sauron)
Sauron Wed 16:32

@Legolas 2 villager claims are fine too!
Wed 16:32

There is still Elrond
WitchKing Wed 16:32

And a seer reveal might lead to a counterclaim
Sauron Wed 16:34

Ugh do you people hate proactive plays that much q_q. I would have claimed Seer already if I wanted to make the game spicy.
Gollum Wed 16:34

i was intrigued when Legolas (IIRC) mentioned Frodo and Elrond were acting in a suspcious way
WitchKing Wed 16:34

@Sauron - is "gut feeling" enough? I'm not really sure, I just feel like out of the people talking there's probably a wolf and if there is it's Gollum
Gollum Wed 16:34

and i was inclined to agree with him
Legolas Wed 16:34

Gollum, yes I said it's fishy that they moved away from the GD discussion
WitchKing Wed 16:36

I think if seer refuses to come out (or is dead) we should have the other harlot reveal instead
Legolas Wed 16:36

but this could be discounted as me being mad that my question was "declined"
Sauron Wed 16:36

So guts feelings eh... Sucks that seer is not here
Wed 16:36

I don't think the other harlot needs to come out tbh
Gollum Wed 16:36

i had thought maybe it would be worth saying my role in next day
Legolas Wed 16:36

which roles would make sense?
Gollum Wed 16:37

but who knows
Sauron Wed 16:37

Unless they have a way of proving themselves being real harlot.
Legolas Wed 16:37

GD = No sense, Seer = probably
Sauron Wed 16:37

Idk any more
Wed 16:37

There is so little activity
WitchKing Wed 16:37

Gollum, no say it now
Wed 16:37

Because if you die tonight we won't know what we lost
Gollum Wed 16:37

do i get assurances of protection if i do?
Legolas Wed 16:37

we can know
Wed 16:37

if we have a gd
Wed 16:38

I dont trust Elrond
Wed 16:38

he's still alive
WitchKing Wed 16:38

And i still think you're a wolf
Wed 16:38

So
Sauron Wed 16:38

How can Elrond not be trusted? Wolves wouldn't go for someone like Elrond when there is 1 harlot watching
WitchKing Wed 16:38

Lego, what if Gollum is GD
Gollum Wed 16:38

will anything other than coming out absolve me of your suspicions?
WitchKing Wed 16:38

Then that plan falls down
Legolas Wed 16:39

if gollem is GD and reveals himself, we gain NOTHING
Wed 16:39

because there is no dead he could have inspected
WitchKing Wed 16:39

@Gollum yes unless someone else claims your role
Gollum Wed 16:39

then what else would you like me to do?
Wed 16:39

since you say yes
Wed 16:40

i obviously don't want to die, and i'm important to the cillage
Wed 16:40

village*
WitchKing Wed 16:40

@Lego - honestly though, he's claimed a special roles so he'll be an appealing target
Wed 16:40

If he dies tonight without telling us anything then we've lost more than if he reveals his role
Legolas Wed 16:41

well if he's GD he should have held back until he's on the edge of getting lynched^^
WitchKing Wed 16:41

I think he's a wolf
Wed 16:41

Probably SS
Gollum Wed 16:41

hahah, no
Legolas Wed 16:41

Witch you ride the Sauron train preeeeeeety hard
WitchKing Wed 16:42

"I thought about telling you tomorrow" -> keep me alive so I can shift
Gollum Wed 16:42

keep me alive so i can find out more
Legolas Wed 16:42

I agree that this is not a thing I would have said
WitchKing Wed 16:42

He said we were too passive!
Legolas Wed 16:42

but I think he's not under enough heat, which CONFUSES (yes you heard it) me :)
WitchKing Wed 16:43

Anyway, let's hear what Gollum is
Wed 16:43

Then we can work out what to do next
Gollum Wed 16:43

i'll show you mine if you show me yours
Wed 16:43

or
Legolas Wed 16:43

lol
Gollum Wed 16:43

we'll be nice to them if they be nice to us
WitchKing Wed 16:44

I'm a villager
Gollum Wed 16:44

just. a. village?
Wed 16:44

r*
WitchKing Wed 16:44

Yep
Gollum Wed 16:44

can you prove it?
Legolas Wed 16:44

eh ...
Gollum Wed 16:45

well it's what's been asked of me, why not ask back?
WitchKing Wed 16:46

No, I can't prove it and really your deflections and avoidance aren't helping me trust you
Legolas Wed 16:46

what really confuses me (I see if I mention it one more time Witch will lynch me) is that we have 2 guys playing the "I'm important guys" game
Gollum Wed 16:46

i'm only doing that because i'm worried about revealing myself and what that might mean for me staying alive tonight...
Sauron Wed 16:47

No one can prove anything this game, especially villagers lol. I think WitchKing is... okay?
Legolas Wed 16:47

didn't you accuse him yesterday?
Sauron Wed 16:47

Yeah but you might get killed tonight anyways so
Wed 16:47

Well you see opinion changes @Legolas
Wed 16:47

As the game progres
Legolas Wed 16:47

what makes you think he's more legit now?
Wed 16:48

what changed your mind.
Gollum Wed 16:48

i would make a statement then if you like?
WitchKing Wed 16:48

So you'll probably die in a round or two anyway
Wed 16:48

@Gollum - I think you're a wolf pretending to be the seer ... if you're not a wolf then probably by now the wolves think you're the seer
Gollum Wed 16:48

probably true
Wed 16:48

in that case i want to do this
Moderator

Gollum votes to put Frodo on trial
Sauron Wed 16:48

I mean, may be because he is riding my train tbh. It is good to feel that I am trusted.
Legolas Wed 16:49

thats some interessting stuff
Sauron Wed 16:49

O_O
Legolas Wed 16:49

ok Frodo
Gollum Wed 16:49

Frodo is a wolf, out and out stinky smelly wolf
Moderator

Sauron votes to put Frodo on trial
Sauron Wed 16:49

No counter claims yet so I have to believe Gollum
Legolas Wed 16:49

ok it would explain why gollum mentioned my suspicion
Sauron Wed 16:50

But who else did you check?
Legolas Wed 16:50

he wanted to get it through without reveal
Sauron Wed 16:50

Even if it is a villager, I think it does more good than bad to the village
Wed 16:50

Or may be Gollum is the harlot?
Legolas Wed 16:51

what do Sauron and Witch think of my suspicion about Frodo and Elrond?
Gollum Wed 16:51

i'll let you mull it over, i'm leaving work now - will be back on in about 30 minutes
Wed 16:51

and read over what you discuss
Sauron Wed 16:52

I don't think Elrond is suspicious at all despite his suspicions on me and talking about his eyebrow
Wed 16:52

Just because there was not a single counterclaim
WitchKing Wed 16:52

@Lego - I'll reread the conversation when I'm home and let you know
Legolas Wed 16:52

no I think you missed the event
Wed 16:53

Sauron read from The moment elrond is here
Merry Wed 16:53

Err is Gollum is claiming seer and saying Frodo is wolf?
Legolas Wed 16:53

yes
Wed 16:53

or thats how understood it
Wed 16:53

could be a harlot who visited pipin
Wed 16:54

I want merrys opinion on that conversation too if possible
WitchKing Wed 16:54

Harlot or Seer, implied
Merry Wed 16:54

Which one?
Legolas Wed 16:54

from the moment is here, until elrond leaves
WitchKing Wed 16:54

I'd like to hear from Frodo
Sauron Wed 16:54

I think Elrond is still Elrond. Frodo and Elrond were very rude but I don't think it makes them wolves.
Legolas Wed 16:54

+Elrond
Wed 16:55

I want to know if you think the deflection on my grave digger question was suspicious or not
Merry Wed 16:55

Lego what time?
Sauron Wed 16:55

They ignored your topic but uh. Elrond has a history exam so he is probably more worried about that right now and thus ignored some discussion
Legolas Wed 16:55

not they didn't ignore
Wed 16:55

they gave a goofy answer
Wed 16:56

if they ignored it I would not be suspicious
Wed 16:56

Merry 2 hours ago when Elrond is here for a short time
Merry Wed 16:56

I have to go at 5 so I will read when I get back
Wed 16:57

About 6.30ish
Sauron Wed 16:57

Frodo gave a goofy answer and Elrond looks like he thought Frodo was talking about his eyebrow and thus said "Very painful"
Legolas Wed 16:57

ok that's a valid way to see it
Sauron Wed 16:57

Honestly just the fact that no one counter claimed Elrond. I think that makes him a protector.
Legolas Wed 16:57

I was more worried about SS
Wed 16:57

I think the elrond from yesterday was legit
Wed 16:58

that's why I asked that stupid question
Sauron Wed 16:58

He hasn't said anything incriminating so. We do have our friend Aragorn who hopefully will be online soon...
Legolas Wed 16:58

true
Wed 16:59

I like you way more today than yesterday..
Sauron Wed 16:59

Guts are telling me that no one visited Elrond.
Wed 16:59

LOL I wanted to make an explosive entrance
Wed 16:59

I am too tired this morning because I didn't get a lot of sleep so I am not hyper like yesterday lol
Merry Wed 17:00

Lego - I don't see any response to your question about gd checking pippin
Wed 17:00

Elrond and frodo are just speaking to each other, your question ignored?
Sauron Wed 17:02

Yeah it is pretty small but Legolas asked "What would GD see if Pippin is Shapeshifter" and then Frodo said "A clear and painful imagery" and Elrond followed up with "Very painful"
Legolas Wed 17:10

I know its subtle but it just felt off compared to the rest of the conversation
Wed 17:11

It was more off by frodo, I get the followup by Elrond
Sauron Wed 17:19

Wow suddenly so quiet. I am a bit busy atm too so I could be gone anytime
WitchKing Wed 17:34

Did you guys see my answer, btw, just in case you still actually want to know the answer
Sauron Wed 17:37

Harlot or seer implied?
WitchKing Wed 17:37

No, "unknown", I think
Sauron Wed 17:37

What answer? Isn't paying the most attention to the game
WitchKing Wed 17:37

To Lego's question about GD
Sauron Wed 17:37

OH I saw it now. I think Mod said it once and it is "unknown"
Wed 17:41

Yeah I think you are right. Not 100% sure because never played GD before
Legolas Wed 18:04

I'm back
WitchKing Wed 18:05

wb @Legolas
Wed 18:05

so, to your point about Frodo and Elrond
Wed 18:06

I think they actually just ignored your questions
Wed 18:06

I don't think Frodo gave a flippant answer, I think that was a continuation of his previous sentence
Legolas Wed 18:06

witchking could be
Wed 18:06

yep
Wed 18:07

so still fordo is on the spot from Gollums accusations
Aragorn Wed 18:07

yo yo yooooooooooo
Legolas Wed 18:07

there is hour Harlogorn
Aragorn Wed 18:08

aight so. no one visited elrond last night. prolly cause a wolf didn't wanna be caught
WitchKing Wed 18:08

I'm still suspicious of @Gollum though, he's not claimed anything concrete so no-one can really counter claim him
Frodo Wed 18:08

Woah. Nope. Wrong. :O and what is with that vague role hint?! As if he is too scared to say clearly whether it is seer or Harlot incase of a counter claim? Well here's Harlot # 2 like you guessed
Moderator

Frodo votes to put Gollum on trial
WitchKing Wed 18:08

@Frodo - who did you check?
Gothmog Wed 18:09

Good morning, what did I miss?
Legolas Wed 18:09

you tell us Goth :)
Frodo Wed 18:09

Aragon visited by elrond
Legolas Wed 18:09

were you able to fulfill your role this night aragorn?
Gothmog Wed 18:10

I will read the log now. You guys write to much lol
Frodo Wed 18:10

He just said nobody visited
Legolas Wed 18:10

missed that
WitchKing Wed 18:11

So potentially we have Frodo and Elrond as a pair of wolves (maybe with Pip as a SS??) or we have @Gollum as a wolf
Wed 18:11

possibly all three, but that seems unlikely
Frodo Wed 18:11

I need to read all this more carefully from a comp, anyone teaming with gollum are gonna be suspect
Legolas Wed 18:13

I think we need Gollums specific role
WitchKing Wed 18:13

I agree
Wed 18:13

and Elrond
Wed 18:13

just to confirm Frodo
Legolas Wed 18:14

I'm not that of a fan from Frodos last sentence
Wed 18:14

"anyone teaming with gollum are gonna be suspect" aha
Frodo Wed 18:16

We can find the other wolves that way! Or at least one. But I won't be on a comp yet :(
Legolas Wed 18:17

Well one possibilty is that gollum used Frodo to piggyback on me, since I think I give a pretty villager vibe
Wed 18:19

gothmog did your role work this night?
Frodo Wed 18:22

14:05 he says he doesn't get any wolf vibes from me but all of a sudden I'm the target? could the Bloodhound have given a signal anywhere since then?
WitchKing Wed 18:23

Could be the bloodhound?
Wed 18:23

he did mention that you could be a harlot... :/
Legolas Wed 18:23

but why would he share that, the wolves have the night to discuss right?
WitchKing Wed 18:26

that's an interesting question
Wed 18:27

my problem is, one of them has to be lying
Legolas Wed 18:27

aye
WitchKing Wed 18:29

if it's Gollem, then his behaviour as a wolf is very weird, almost arrogant... but if Gollum is telling the truth and Frodo is lying then why has a second harlot come out? ... unless the reason Gollum joked about Frodo being the second harlot is because he was himself...
Wed 18:30

hasn't*
Legolas Wed 18:30

I don't get your last part about the halot
WitchKing Wed 18:30

but if that's the case, why would Frodo risk picking such an easily discreditable claim
Wed 18:31

Legolas: read Gollum @ 14:05 (BST)
Wed 18:32

Gollum Wed 14:05
Wed 18:32

I've not picked up any Wolfe vibes from Frofo either // Frodo* // Could be a harlot though *:D
Moderator

Sauron votes to put Gollum on trial
WitchKing Wed 18:34

I want to hear from Elrond
Wed 18:34

if he didn't protect Aragorn last night, we know Frodo is lying
Sauron Wed 18:34

Back from eating lunch. So Frodo claimed harlot and said that Elrond visited Aragorn last night. If he is a wolf it is a hell risky play but only Aragorn was the other "confirmed" villager so it is safe to assume that Elrond protected Aragorn.
WitchKing Wed 18:34

yeah
Wed 18:35

but there's always the (slim) change Elron was SS'd into last night
Sauron Wed 18:35

But then again, Gollum's whole act was weird.
WitchKing Wed 18:35

yeah, really
Legolas Wed 18:35

and we seem to have a confirmation about no one visiting elrond
WitchKing Wed 18:35

I'm inclined to believe Frodo until I have evidence to the contrary
Sauron Wed 18:35

Yeah but Frodo visited Aragorn
Wed 18:35

OH RIGHT
Wed 18:35

From Aragorn
Wed 18:36

Nice catch Legolas
WitchKing Wed 18:36

oh, really?
Wed 18:36

I missed that
Legolas Wed 18:36

Aragorn Wed 1x:08 aight so. no one visited elrond last night. prolly cause a wolf didn't wanna be caught
WitchKing Wed 18:36

cool, so unless Elron pops up and says he healed someone else, I'm gonna vote Gollum
Moderator

WitchKing votes to put Gollum on trial
Gothmog Wed 18:37

After reading the log, I'm confused now.
Legolas Wed 18:37

WOLF
Wed 18:37

WOLF!!!
Sauron Wed 18:37

So either the wolf team just happen to be super coordinated and village team just happens to be dumb, or Gollum lying
Legolas Wed 18:37

;)
WitchKing Wed 18:37

Legolas! That only applies in real life :(
Sauron Wed 18:37

I think 2nd one is way more likely xD
Legolas Wed 18:37

Witch king, lynch Goth!! :P
Frodo Wed 18:37

Gothmog confirmed wolf!
WitchKing Wed 18:37

you guys D:<
Frodo Wed 18:37

And crap,I just got on comp and been invited to IRL werewolf tonight :O so I might be gone
WitchKing Wed 18:37

statistically speaking, it's very unli... oh fuck
Gothmog Wed 18:38

Did I miss something or was their major suspicion on gollum?
Sauron Wed 18:38

Umm you missed a lot lol
WitchKing Wed 18:38

I basically bullied Gollum into coming out as a role, and he did it really really badly
Legolas Wed 18:38

Goth are you a wolf?
Gothmog Wed 18:38

no
Legolas Wed 18:38

are you confused?
WitchKing Wed 18:38

That's what Gollum said
Frodo Wed 18:38

Gothmog you really hinted at having a role, did you work out how to use it?
WitchKing Wed 18:38

and look how that ended for him
Gothmog Wed 18:39

Yes i mailed the mod and I think I got the hang of it now.
Legolas Wed 18:39

have you any information to share?
Gothmog Wed 18:40

sadly not
Legolas Wed 18:40

I'm just now checking all the roles,
Frodo Wed 18:40

Where has your enthusiasm gone.. :O
Wed 18:41

What if Pippin was the seer and although all suspicions were on him, they had to be rid of him
WitchKing Wed 18:42

@Frodo - did you say who your night 1 check was?
Gothmog Wed 18:42

they had to know that then right?
Legolas Wed 18:42

well pippin was top of the list
Wed 18:42

would be super baaaad luck
Frodo Wed 18:42

You for talking first :P but nothing
WitchKing Wed 18:42

Frodo, it'd be lucky for them... not impossible though
Gothmog Wed 18:42

Can't the Bloodhound check?
WitchKing Wed 18:42

yeah, but they'd have to get lucky to hit seer night 1
Frodo Wed 18:43

It was pretty LUCKY that they missed a shot that night
Wed 18:43

so maybe it all balanced out
Gothmog Wed 18:43

At what point does the Bloodhound get the result? Before the kill or after?
Legolas Wed 18:43

I want to her a fking word from grima
Frodo Wed 18:43

In the morning, same with Seer, harlot etc
Legolas Wed 18:44

so they cant check and kill the same night
Frodo Wed 18:44

Me too
Gothmog Wed 18:44

ok
Frodo Wed 18:44

maybe he's ashamed of his face
Legolas Wed 18:44

I still can't believe they just killed the seer first
Frodo Wed 18:45

Well , just a theory, or why would Gollum risk it? Although he hasn't said seer specifically actually!
WitchKing Wed 18:45

^ this
Wed 18:45

it could have been a ploy to draw both harlot AND seer out
Wed 18:46

sooo, until he officially claims seer, the real one should stay anonymous
Legolas Wed 18:47

but if they know he's the harlot, why make him come out?
Wed 18:47

I mean he called frodo
Sauron Wed 18:47

Just weird plays by Gollum...
WitchKing Wed 18:49

hmmm, there's one other remote possibility
Legolas Wed 18:49

we need elronds confirmation
WitchKing Wed 18:50

Frodo is wolf - doesn't know if Elrond protected Aragorn last night but wants to find out if he did or not
Sauron Wed 18:50

Yeah... But he is taking an exam rn :/
WitchKing Wed 18:50

so that, if he didn't they can kill Aragorn tonight
Wed 18:50

um, if he did*
Legolas Wed 18:51

look, I just see a push by 3 ppl. so far, Witch + Sauron + Frodo, There are 3 possible wolves, so I want a 4th opinion. Not that I think you're suspicious, just to be sure
Wed 18:52

if we add elrond, there are not enough wolves to push this claim :)
Sauron Wed 18:58

Push? Idk... Just that Gollum said he has night ability and hinted that Frodo is a harlot and then claims that he is a wolf but Frodo actually claimed harlot. This whole sequence... I have to think that Gollum is a wolf.
Merry Wed 19:02

so Gollum @ 16:49 is claiming Frodo is a wolf.... but doesn't say how he knows this, he just disapears 2 mins after accusation
Wed 19:03

it's very odd
Sauron Wed 19:03

Yeah...
Merry Wed 19:05

Right now votes are 3 Gollum (Frodo, Sauron, Witch), 1 Frodo (Gollum), 1 Grima (Merry)
Gollum Wed 19:05

I had to go afk, I'll catch up on the conversation when I'm back properly
Merry Wed 19:06

Aragorn and Frodo have claimed Harlot - does anyone else claim this role??
Gollum Wed 19:07

The whole thing of me saying frodo was a harlot was jest - messing around - he is a wolf, I don't know which one
Merry Wed 19:07

Aragorn says he visited Elrond night 2..... and Elrond was visited by nobody....... Frodo says he visited Aragorn night 2 and says he was visited by Elrond (the Protector)
Wed 19:08

Are you claiming a specific role Gollum?
WitchKing Wed 19:08

well
Wed 19:08

he must be claiming seer really
Legolas Wed 19:08

don't tell him what to claim :P
WitchKing Wed 19:08

okay :P
Legolas Wed 19:09

I mean elrond can clear it all up right?
WitchKing Wed 19:09

hopefully
Merry Wed 19:09

he can?
Legolas Wed 19:10

Frodo would have to know who he protected
WitchKing Wed 19:10

if he protected Aragorn, Frodo is *probably* telling the truth
Legolas Wed 19:10

on the other haaaaaaand
Wed 19:10

Aragorn is an easy pick
Merry Wed 19:10

yes, very very easy
Legolas Wed 19:10

I could have probably predicted that
Wed 19:10

and I'm a dumb elve who shoots with a bow
WitchKing Wed 19:10

okay, but
Frodo Wed 19:10

Well I hoped to catch a wolf not an Elrond :P
Merry Wed 19:10

if Elrond claims otherwise then it's something... if Elrond claims Aragorn then it doesn't mean a great deal imo
WitchKing Wed 19:11

assume Frodo is lying, that means either (a) Pippin was harlot or (b) Gollum is harot
Wed 19:11

and if Gollum is harlot, why the hell did he check Pippin last night?
Legolas Wed 19:11

well it would have gone against the plan right?
WitchKing Wed 19:12

it just, doesn't seem plausible to me?
Legolas Wed 19:12

the other possiblity would be that he visited Elrond first night
Wed 19:12

and I shouldn't have said that
Wed 19:13

because I just described his way out :S
Wed 19:13

meh
WitchKing Wed 19:13

not true
Wed 19:13

well, hmm
Wed 19:13

maybe
Legolas Wed 19:13

if he visits Elrond first night, catches BOTH
Wed 19:13

then Elrond comes out as Protector
Wed 19:13

he knows the other dude was the wolf
WitchKing Wed 19:14

we don't know for certain that Elrond was the target though - we just suspect because no-one died
Legolas Wed 19:14

and he said he protected himself
Wed 19:14

then no counter claim with all ppl. alive
Merry Wed 19:15

I'm thinking Gollum is wolf and Pippin was wolf, Pippin has now assumed role of Gothmog
Legolas Wed 19:15

mhm
Wed 19:15

I see your reasoning
Merry Wed 19:16

Gothmog seems a bit different compared to yesterday imo
Legolas Wed 19:16

Gothmog went from OMG SHIT I NEED TO KNOW HOW TO PLAY to "nothing happend"
Frodo Wed 19:16

Yeah the enthusiasm is gone..I was sure that's the guy from lobby
Merry Wed 19:16

haha yea a bit like that
Legolas Wed 19:17

IF gothmog has a role
Wed 19:18

which one could it be
Wed 19:18

we have at least 2 harlos :D
Wed 19:18

the seer should have come out
Merry Wed 19:18

1 Werewolf, 1 Shapeshifter, 1 Bloodhound, 1 Seer, 1 Protector, 1 Gravedigger, 1 Graverobber, 2 Harlots and 3 Villagers
Legolas Wed 19:18

the grave robber is not possible
Frodo Wed 19:18

If he was one of the dead ones GR/GD it'd make sense why he couldn't do anything, or a terrible seer
Gothmog Wed 19:18

Yesterday it was mentioned that you can mail the mod. I did that got a lot of questions answered. I'm not that stupid.
Legolas Wed 19:18

oh weit
Wed 19:19

does your role have to do with dead ppl.?
Gothmog Wed 19:19

Yes
Legolas Wed 19:19

I could imagine that's a confusing role at the start
Wed 19:20

because you can't do shit until someone dies
WitchKing Wed 19:20

^^
Frodo Wed 19:20

Ohgod yeah I already mentioned but there was that gravedigger from a night 4 who just hadn't been doing anything
Wed 19:20

day 4 I mean
Merry Wed 19:20

What did you ask the mod Gothmog?
Frodo Wed 19:20

or day 3 idk
WitchKing Wed 19:20

so guys
Wed 19:21

are we just outing *all* the specials today? >_>
Frodo Wed 19:21

Sauron would approve xD
WitchKing Wed 19:21

BH might as well come out too, since there's nothing left for you to do now...
Legolas Wed 19:21

lol
Frodo Wed 19:21

LOL
Legolas Wed 19:21

rolf
Sauron Wed 19:21

Gollum: Okay fine I am BH
Merry Wed 19:21

that's not the same Gothmog as yesterday
WitchKing Wed 19:22

@Sauron ... did you just mix me and a wolf up?
Wed 19:22

:|
Legolas Wed 19:22

gothmog which one are you, so we have a chance for counter claim
Sauron Wed 19:22

O_o
Gothmog Wed 19:22

procedure, when where to do stuff. Clarification on my role.
Sauron Wed 19:22

No Gothmog shouldn't reveal
Legolas Wed 19:22

look
WitchKing Wed 19:22

wait, guys
Legolas Wed 19:22

the wolves have now to kill 2 harlos
WitchKing Wed 19:22

stop a second
Legolas Wed 19:23

a protector and a grave dude
WitchKing Wed 19:23

stop stop stop ... did Gothmog say nothing happened last night?
Legolas Wed 19:23

that's 4 nights
WitchKing Wed 19:23

Gothmog, did you use your ability last night?
Gothmog Wed 19:23

There was no one dead last night.
WitchKing Wed 19:23

oh, crap yeah
Sauron Wed 19:23

Let's do the math
Wed 19:24

1 protector
WitchKing Wed 19:24

<-- idiot
Sauron Wed 19:24

2 harlots
WitchKing Wed 19:24

just ignore me
Sauron Wed 19:24

Already came out
Wed 19:24

I claimed special, and Gothmog claimed special
Wed 19:24

None of us are the Seer
Aragorn Wed 19:24

whoa lmao this is wild
Legolas Wed 19:24

lulz
Sauron Wed 19:24

Is it clear to you people now?
Merry Wed 19:24

Crystal clear
Wed 19:24

not!
Sauron Wed 19:25

Gothmog is obviously my brother
Wed 19:25

And Merry is probably a wolf
Merry Wed 19:25

I don't believe Gothmog at all
Legolas Wed 19:25

I want to know goths role
Merry Wed 19:25

you what?
Sauron Wed 19:25

No one else has claimed any role yet so
Aragorn Wed 19:25

sauron and gothmog are GD/GR (not respectively ) lmao aight
Sauron Wed 19:25

Yeah ^
Merry Wed 19:25

Sauron - what are you on about, your brother??
Legolas Wed 19:25

so who's who
Sauron Wed 19:26

No revealing that
Aragorn Wed 19:26

this is if we believe them tho
Sauron Wed 19:26

But no one else is going to claim GD / GR?
Aragorn Wed 19:26

merry seems a lil behind
Sauron Wed 19:26

The wolf team is really uncoordinated
Gothmog Wed 19:26

What about gollum he would be seer or fake claiming right?
Frodo Wed 19:26

...I'm not sure about that
Legolas Wed 19:26

it makes no sense to counterclaim now
Frodo Wed 19:26

(uncoordinated thing)
Legolas Wed 19:27

counterclaim means bullshit now
Wed 19:27

if there is another gd/gr he should not counterlcaim now
Merry Wed 19:27

Sauron - are you saying Gothmog is really your brother??
Sauron Wed 19:27

Which means we are obviously GD / GR
Wed 19:28

Or Gothmog is SS'd
Legolas Wed 19:28

no
Wed 19:28

look the point is
Sauron Wed 19:28

But I don't think Gothmog being SS'd is likely
Wed 19:28

A real GD / GR should come out now
Merry Wed 19:28

Sauron can you hear me?
Sauron Wed 19:28

Yes I can hear you
Legolas Wed 19:28

Sauron I don't like your style now
Sauron Wed 19:28

It is just an expression. Since we are both Grave roles
Wed 19:28

????
Wed 19:28

It is simple logic
Merry Wed 19:28

christ
Legolas Wed 19:28

the problem at the moment is
Merry Wed 19:29

how confusing
Legolas Wed 19:29

we can't pin point who's bullshitting
Sauron Wed 19:29

What?
Merry Wed 19:29

Sauron - you think this Gothmog is the same as yesterday??
Wed 19:29

This awfully quiet Gothmog
Gollum Wed 19:29

I will give a full statement when I get back to computer
Legolas Wed 19:29

if we get a counter claim
Sauron Wed 19:29

Gollum is obviously bullshitting. Gothmog wasn't so different yesterday.
Gollum Wed 19:29

I'm not wolf and can prove
Legolas Wed 19:29

we dont know if gothmog or sauron lied
Gothmog Wed 19:29

How can you proof?
Gollum Wed 19:29

I'm our of the house atm
Merry Wed 19:29

Sauron - are you still claiming a role?
Legolas Wed 19:30

because noone said who excatly they are
Sauron Wed 19:30

Umm yeah?
Wed 19:30

What do you mean Gothmog or Sauron lied?
Wed 19:30

I am not lying. Gothmog doesn't talk like a liar
Legolas Wed 19:30

both of you can switch to the opposite role
Frodo Wed 19:30

Did we catch all 3 wolves on a DAY 3
Sauron Wed 19:30

Oh so you are distrusting us?
Elrond Wed 19:31

My exam has been written!
Sauron Wed 19:31

But is there any other GD / GR?
Legolas Wed 19:31

Elornd, who did you protect last night?
Elrond Wed 19:31

Aragorn.
Legolas Wed 19:31

don't say it if you are a GD
Wed 19:31

or GR
Wed 19:31

this is some cheap trick
Sauron Wed 19:31

???
Frodo Wed 19:31

Yay Elrond :D
Merry Wed 19:31

Frodo - who are the 3 wolves in your opinion?
Legolas Wed 19:32

if Grima comes and counterclaims GD, YOU or Goth will say you're GR, and
Frodo Wed 19:32

Gollum, Gothmog, Sauron
Gothmog Wed 19:32

so Aragorn will die tonight
Merry Wed 19:32

good
Sauron Wed 19:32

WHAT?
Wed 19:32

???????
Wed 19:32

I am so confused.
Frodo Wed 19:32

I can watch him!
Legolas Wed 19:32

Wolf!
Gothmog Wed 19:32

wolves will kill him
Elrond Wed 19:32

The other harlot should watch Aragorn tonight.
Merry Wed 19:32

I am thinking same as Frodo right now
Frodo Wed 19:32

not without being caught
Sauron Wed 19:32

I am the Grave Digger. Ugh have to come out now.
Legolas Wed 19:32

did you guys get my point about the glames
Sauron Wed 19:33

What the hell? sigh =_=
Legolas Wed 19:33

*claims
Gothmog Wed 19:33

Can harlots watch same guy again? Or is there a rule?
Merry Wed 19:33

Sauron is so confusing in his weird gameplay
Aragorn Wed 19:33

cue the sure, jan gif
Sauron Wed 19:33

Harlot can watch the same guy again
Legolas Wed 19:33

which role are you gothmog?
Gothmog Wed 19:33

graverobber
Sauron Wed 19:33

Idk why
Wed 19:33

This is so simple
Wed 19:33

Well it is fine we likely win either way
Legolas Wed 19:34

Sauron
Gothmog Wed 19:34

Well I guess the positive thing now is ...
Aragorn Wed 19:34

aight lmao here's what i think
Merry Wed 19:34

Who do you think is a wolf Sauron?
Gothmog Wed 19:34

wolves have to choose sauron or aragorn
Legolas Wed 19:34

I beleive sauron more, and I agree with merrys doubts about goth
Merry Wed 19:35

more than who?
Wed 19:35

or just in general
Aragorn Wed 19:35

elrond = protector, me & frodo = harlots, lego = villager, sauron = gd
Sauron Wed 19:35

Gollum for sure. And the rest are bunch of villagers so Idk
Legolas Wed 19:35

than goth
Aragorn Wed 19:35

that's just what i think
Merry Wed 19:35

ok
Legolas Wed 19:35

because I totally see your point how his personality switched
Merry Wed 19:35

yes, it has
Legolas Wed 19:35

and I'm on board with you on that one
Moderator

Legolas votes to put Gothmog on trial
Legolas Wed 19:36

this is not the same dude from day 1
Gothmog Wed 19:36

lol
Moderator

Aragorn votes to put Gothmog on trial
Sauron Wed 19:37

I think at least one of the harlot on me. I still believe Gothmog is the same dude. But we have to lynch Gollum today I think.
Wed 19:37

Everything he did just smells wolf.
WitchKing Wed 19:37

so we've actually outed all roles except seer now, right?
Merry Wed 19:37

Does anyone counter claim on the following then....... Elrond (PROTECTOR), Gothmog (GRAVEROBBER), Sauron (GRAVEDIGGER), Frodo (HARLOT), Aragorn (HARLOT)
Aragorn Wed 19:37

we bouta lynch that shapeshifter tho
Sauron Wed 19:37

@WitchKing Yes
Legolas Wed 19:37

I don't believe gothmog, because the role is quite clear
Aragorn Wed 19:38

YO FRODO, you watch me, i watch sauron?
Gollum Wed 19:38

Okay don't know why I'm still reading right now since I'm not home, but I'm the seer, frodo is wolf, Legolas is a villager
Wed 19:38

That's all I've seen so far
Merry Wed 19:38

who did you check last night?
Legolas Wed 19:38

go with goth guys, this story makes no sense
Sauron Wed 19:38

No Gollum is better I think
Legolas Wed 19:39

I don't know about anyone else, but Goth story is BS
Gollum Wed 19:39

Checked Lego first night, Frodo last night
Merry Wed 19:39

why Frodo
Aragorn Wed 19:39

both these stories r bs lmao
Sauron Wed 19:39

If Gothmog is a Shapeshifter, he doesn't have SS ability any more
Merry Wed 19:40

Elrond (PROTECTOR), Gothmog (GRAVEROBBER), Sauron (GRAVEDIGGER), Frodo (HARLOT), Aragorn (HARLOT), Gollum (SEER) ------- any counterclaim?
Legolas Wed 19:40

he is SS, thats all merry and me are saying since he's here
Sauron Wed 19:40

Well Gollum is useless too....
Elrond Wed 19:40

This is intense.
Legolas Wed 19:40

trust me guys
Sauron Wed 19:41

Merry and Legolas part of Gollum team? :O
Legolas Wed 19:41

nooo
Wed 19:41

f gollum, I go for the 100% lynch
Moderator

Elrond votes to put Gothmog on trial
Legolas Wed 19:41

gollum or frodo is something for tomorrow, we can go for the sure one NOW
Elrond Wed 19:41

It's better to rid ourselves of the SS.
Legolas Wed 19:42

reasons: the first day goth was eager and pissed, the new goth is "lol"
Wed 19:42

Graverobber is no rocket science
Gothmog Wed 19:42

Frodo kinda accused Gollum so it's a bit convenient that he now says he is wolf?
Elrond Wed 19:42

I don't understand why Frodo is being accused. I believe he's harlot, he saw that I protected Aragorn.
WitchKing Wed 19:43

Legolas, are you claiming Pippin is SS?
Gothmog Wed 19:43

Well in his theory he would have to be.
Frodo Wed 19:43

It feels as if they've killed the real Seer, but then that wouldn't add up with the SS story
Merry Wed 19:43

Elrond - Frodo is a wolf as per Gollum who claims to be Seer
Gollum Wed 19:43

I'll read back but I'm sure I called Frodo before he called me, though I may be mistaken
Legolas Wed 19:43

I believe with a absolute certainty that Goth is another person, so I have to assume Pipin was SS Witch
WitchKing Wed 19:44

because if Pippin was SS then we still have three of Seer, both Harlots and GR still alive
Gothmog Wed 19:44

If the killed the real seer, gollums stoy is BS
Wed 19:44

they
WitchKing Wed 19:44

but one of Gollum or Frodo is lying
Wed 19:44

so if that was the case then someone would have counter-claimed that role
Gothmog Wed 19:44

I agree.
WitchKing Wed 19:44

but no-one has, so either Pippin was Seer or Harlot
Legolas Wed 19:44

Goth what you didn't understand about grave robber?
WitchKing Wed 19:44

so therefor wasn't SS
Wed 19:45

I think Gollum is SS and Legolas is wolf / BH
Legolas Wed 19:45

me wolf???
WitchKing Wed 19:45

yes
Legolas Wed 19:46

I almost ruined the game because I was so eager to test aragorn
Grima Wed 19:46

ok guys sorry for being late to the party, had work and studies to catch up on
Moderator

Grima votes to put Gollum on trial
Sauron Wed 19:46

GRIMA
WitchKing Wed 19:46

Grima, are you a special role?
Elrond Wed 19:46

I trust Legolas.
Grima Wed 19:46

gollum is not seer
WitchKing Wed 19:46

are you claiming Seer, @Grima? :O
Merry Wed 19:46

Gollum you didn't answer my question about your reason for checking Frodo last night
Grima Wed 19:46

I wanted to stay low at least another day but I am seer
Sauron Wed 19:47

:o Checks?
Legolas Wed 19:47

I hope he checked me
Grima Wed 19:47

sorry leg
Merry Wed 19:47

why? I hope he didn't
Wed 19:47

I always hope they didn't check myself
Legolas Wed 19:47

because Witch is questioning my villager
Gollum Wed 19:47

Grima I will check you tonight you lying little mush
Merry Wed 19:47

because it's a waste :)
Grima Wed 19:48

night 1 checked witchking, night 2 merry
Frodo Wed 19:48

Why wouldn't you want to be confirmed? :o
Merry Wed 19:48

dammit
Frodo Wed 19:48

Unless a wolf
Wed 19:48

MERRY?
Sauron Wed 19:48

Results?
Gollum Wed 19:48

Smells like a wolf
Legolas Wed 19:48

woudl have been awesome to be confirmed by 2 seers
Merry Wed 19:48

I'm obviously clear
Grima Wed 19:48

both villagers
Wed 19:48

at least we can put them aside
Wed 19:48

unless SS'd?
Legolas Wed 19:48

Witchking, trust me dude, we wrote the hole day
Sauron Wed 19:49

O_o Okay then. They can't be SS'd
Frodo Wed 19:49

And Gollum, why would you check the counterclaim, from your perspective he's gotta be a wolf , right? that would be a waste and only wolf seers have ever said it
Gollum Wed 19:49

Frodo definitely, Grima becoming likely, possibly Merry
Merry Wed 19:49

becoming likely???
Wed 19:49

lol, he claimed same role as you
Grima Wed 19:49

if you were seer, why would I become likely
Frodo Wed 19:49

LOL
Elrond Wed 19:50

I was a wolf in 40 and fake claimed seer, and I can confirm that a seer should not waste a check on a fake seer. That was an interesting time.
Legolas Wed 19:50

dudes we have 1 100% kill
Gollum Wed 19:50

Yeah and he's not seer, so why claim that of he's innocent, so I'm rapidly thinking he's a wolf
Frodo Wed 19:50

I went through this when I was the seer a few games ago :P
Wed 19:50

:O Elrond it WAS you! I thought so
Gothmog Wed 19:50

Guys I have to leave for work in like 10 minutes. I will try to be back before the day ends.
Elrond Wed 19:50

Yeah, I was HitGirl!
Sauron Wed 19:50

By math Eowyn Gollum, and Legolas are the 3 wolves if Grima is the real seer. If Gollum is the real seer then Grima, Frodo, and Eowyn are the wolves.
Merry Wed 19:50

You have your wolf duties tonight Gothmog.. don't forget:)
Legolas Wed 19:50

ok, everyone who thinks I'm a wolf lift your hand now
WitchKing Wed 19:51

*partially raises hand*
Legolas Wed 19:51

because if you really really think I'm a wolf, lynch me now
Elrond Wed 19:51

What I believe is that Gollum, Gothmog, and Eowyn are the wolves.
Sauron Wed 19:51

Legolas, who do you think is the real seer?
Gothmog Wed 19:51

I may rob a grave ;-)
Merry Wed 19:51

:)
Frodo Wed 19:51

Don't rob Gollum's!
Legolas Wed 19:51

I have NO clue who the seer is, I know gothmog is lying
Elrond Wed 19:52

I trust you. And if I didn't, I wouldn't waste today's lynch on you.
Legolas Wed 19:52

tomorrow we have much more tools
Frodo Wed 19:52

Gothmog is pretty dodgey
Legolas Wed 19:52

lynch goth
Frodo Wed 19:52

But why is he clear in Sauron's eyes?
Legolas Wed 19:52

check seers later
WitchKing Wed 19:52

Legolas, why lynch Gothmog if you think he's been SS into?
Sauron Wed 19:52

He is not exactly clear tbh, but I really believe that Gollum is a liar
WitchKing Wed 19:52

if he's been shifted into, then he can't shift again
Legolas Wed 19:52

look its BAD to potentially lynch the wrong seer
Frodo Wed 19:52

I think they both are
WitchKing Wed 19:53

but if you're wrong and Gollum is SS he might escape tonight
Aragorn Wed 19:53

frodo my buddy my man,, watch me tonight i'll watch sauron
Sauron Wed 19:53

I need to survive one more night.
Frodo Wed 19:53

My vote on Gollum is valid
Legolas Wed 19:53

Witch king, I gained a lot of respect during this round for you, wouldn't you agree it's bad to lynch the wrong seer?
Sauron Wed 19:53

I think Pippin's role will give us a lot more clues
Elrond Wed 19:53

Personally, I'm just happy I'm still alive.
Legolas Wed 19:53

Think about it
Frodo Wed 19:54

Yeah we need to know if he SS'd out and then tomorrow Gothmog may be up
Legolas Wed 19:54

if we lynch the wrong seer we're probably done
WitchKing Wed 19:54

Legolas, at this point, not really
Sauron Wed 19:54

Honestly why not lynch Eowyn? Eowyn fits as wolves if Gollum or Grima are the wolves.
Legolas Wed 19:54

GOTHMOG
Wed 19:54

ok f it
Wed 19:54

I'm the graverobber
Sauron Wed 19:54

O_o
Merry Wed 19:55

Are you there Grima?
Legolas Wed 19:55

that's why I didn't want to counterclaim yet
Frodo Wed 19:55

...Plot twist
WitchKing Wed 19:55

wait, what
Sauron Wed 19:55

What the hell?
Aragorn Wed 19:55

damn son
WitchKing Wed 19:55

that's interesting
Sauron Wed 19:55

But you believed that Gothmog had a role yesterday right?
Legolas Wed 19:55

that's why I went against the whole counterclaim stuff
WitchKing Wed 19:55

so we have 2 seers and 2 graverobbers
Aragorn Wed 19:55

here i was thinking that lil lego was a villager
Merry Wed 19:55

so wolves are Sauron, Gothmog and Gollum right Lego?
Legolas Wed 19:55

I haven't used my role
Wed 19:56

plan was to use it on elrond
Sauron Wed 19:56

O_O What? I am the one and only Gravedigger
Legolas Wed 19:56

that's why I said he should protect me
Wed 19:56

you can read that up
Wed 19:56

my plan was to take over the protector from Elrond
WitchKing Wed 19:56

@Sauron - I think I'm the only normal villager!
Merry Wed 19:57

I am a no role villager
Sauron Wed 19:57

Lol I think so too WitchKing
Elrond Wed 19:57

Well, if I die, you can. Assuming you don't die first.
Legolas Wed 19:57

does my plan make sense?
Wed 19:57

or made sense..
WitchKing Wed 19:57

hmmm
Wed 19:57

Legolas, so just to clarify ... do you think Pippin was SS or not?
Legolas Wed 19:58

I just know gothmog is not the graverobber, I assumed he got SS'ed but I can't be sure of that. I just want to go for the sure lynch
Wed 19:58

I tried to get it rhrough without reveal
Moderator

Merry votes to put Gothmog on trial
Sauron Wed 19:59

Yo we need to lynch Gollum today
Merry Wed 19:59

now votes are level, 4 on Gollum and 4 on Gothmog
Legolas Wed 19:59

Sauron, you see now why I wanted the specific roles?
Frodo Wed 19:59

I do believe you cause he's completely different, but in my eyes of course Gollum is the sure lynch
Legolas Wed 19:59

I pressed for them, to see who's bullshitting
Frodo Wed 19:59

And if he's BH it's better, like Sauron says
Sauron Wed 19:59

No. You could be just waiting for counterclaiming chance.
Frodo Wed 20:00

Sauron still a slight bit dogdey tho
Legolas Wed 20:00

why?
Frodo Wed 20:00

Watch Eowyn appear and claim GD xD
Legolas Wed 20:00

if I claimed before I knew the roles both of you could be lying
Sauron Wed 20:00

Ugh Idk any more but I NEED to survive one more night
Elrond Wed 20:00

Let's deal with the seer problem tomorrow and get rid of Gothmog today.
Merry Wed 20:00

I hope Eowyn does do that
Elrond Wed 20:00

Why, Sauron?
Sauron Wed 20:00

Because if I know Pippin's role
Wed 20:00

It will be clear who the wolves are
Legolas Wed 20:00

check the chatlog guys, this was an instant reaction from me, I went after gothmog the moment he claimed it
Frodo Wed 20:00

But Gothmog definitely used his skill up, look at the text yesterday
Merry Wed 20:00

Pippin was the SS.....
Sauron Wed 20:01

No it is not 100% certain yet
Legolas Wed 20:01

wtf dude
Frodo Wed 20:01

Sauron is gonna confirm it tonight if he's real
Legolas Wed 20:01

If I want to counterclaim SOMEONE I wouldn't have needed the specific roles
Merry Wed 20:02

Does anyone think Gothmog is the same person?
Sauron Wed 20:02

I am real. I am the only one who claimed Gravedigger
Legolas Wed 20:02

yes and that's why I wanted it! because we can now 100% lynch goth
Sauron Wed 20:02

So are you also saying that Gothmog was a villager all along?
Wed 20:02

Since yesterday?
Legolas Wed 20:02

the gothmog today claimed graverobber
Wed 20:03

I'm the grave robber, what the f more do I need to know?
Sauron Wed 20:03

So he is a harlot and thus Frodo is lying?
Legolas Wed 20:03

who's a harlot?
Frodo Wed 20:03

Where's that come from?
Legolas Wed 20:03

Sauron you make no sense atm.
Frodo Wed 20:03

Gollum, Gothmog, Sauron pretty sure about this now
Legolas Wed 20:04

look, GOLLUM cleared me, and frogo agrees with mer
WitchKing Wed 20:04

I just feel like Legolas is triyng to get anyone but Gollum lynched
Wed 20:04

because he knows he's SS
Legolas Wed 20:04

Witch no both sides agree on goth
Frodo Wed 20:04

ohshi
Merry Wed 20:05

Witch - do you think Gothmog is the same person as yesterday? Or undecided?
Frodo Wed 20:05

You only trust Gollum cause he cleared you?! But that's a false seer tactic...
Legolas Wed 20:05

We have frodo and Gollum
WitchKing Wed 20:05

@Merry, tbh I haven't been paying attention to Gothmog, I'll go back and re-read once we've lynched Gollum
Sauron Wed 20:05

Gollum implied that you Frodo is a Harlot, and then claimed that you are a wolf.
Legolas Wed 20:05

Frodo my point is, I have not yet a strict opinion on you two, but you as well as gollum agree with goth
Sauron Wed 20:06

As for what I was saying, Gothmog had a confusing role.
Frodo Wed 20:06

True but I'm becoming wary of the desperate tug of war happening
Legolas Wed 20:06

what's confusing about grave robber
Wed 20:06

the about page is pretty clear
Sauron Wed 20:06

And if Legolas is Graverobber, I am gravedigger, Grima / Gollum is a seer. Then he has to be harlot and Frodo / Aragorn is lying
Wed 20:06

It is not clear
Wed 20:06

So he asked.
Grima Wed 20:07

legolas sounds like he's covering for gollum, who has been terrible at pretending to be seer so far (no offence), so possible cooperation?
Legolas Wed 20:07

So who thinks I'm not graverobber?
Merry Wed 20:08

Grima why did you check me last night?
Sauron Wed 20:08

I agree with Grima
Legolas Wed 20:08

lynch me now then, put the votes on me
Grima Wed 20:08

isn't it best to get rid of a definite wolf and use the information tomorrow?
Legolas Wed 20:08

so everyone can see it
Grima Wed 20:08

I checked you merry because you seemed eager to lynch
Legolas Wed 20:08

Grima even MERRY agrees with me
Wed 20:08

Merry even came up with it ffs
Wed 20:08

and you just cleared him
Wed 20:09

My first hinch on goth came from merry
Merry Wed 20:09

Gothmog stands out for me immediately because of the punctuation, yesterday he used no full stops on any sentence and today he uses them frequently from the start
Wed 20:10

then as he continues to talk it just sounds different to yesterday
Sauron Wed 20:10

Yeah but look at Pippin's chat yesterday
Legolas Wed 20:10

and he was super pissed day2, almost unfriendly
Sauron Wed 20:10

Oh okay
Legolas Wed 20:11

Sauron, do you think he cares right now? :)
Wed 20:11

did he make any attempt to prove his gr?
Sauron Wed 20:11

???
Legolas Wed 20:11

he just "lol"
Wed 20:11

Goth
Wed 20:11

his whole defense was "lol"
Wed 20:12

sounds more like a person who got caught
Elrond Wed 20:12

No one SSed into Gothmog.
Sauron Wed 20:12

O_o How are you sure Elrond?
Legolas Wed 20:12

while I write here, elaborate my plans
Wed 20:12

try to explain every detail ---
Wed 20:13

I just feel depressed right now :(
Elrond Wed 20:13

Day 2, Gothmog came on at 5AM. Pippin came on at 8:13AM. Today, Gothmog came on at 5:02AM.
Sauron Wed 20:13

Yeah and Gothmog also talked in the afternoon too
Frodo Wed 20:13

I suspected Gothmog yesterday for being there on the dot to hear the rooster, so maybe Sauron was right that legolas is trying to protect the SS one more night
Sauron Wed 20:13

Unlike Pippin
Elrond Wed 20:13

Either Pippin is a really dedicated shapeshifter, or wasn't the shapeshifter at all.
Merry Wed 20:14

Gothmog came on at 5am?
Frodo Wed 20:14

Ohhh...
Merry Wed 20:14

where do you get these times from
Frodo Wed 20:14

..I was about to change my vote for that but then I realised I was already on Gollum xD
Wed 20:15

anticlimatic
Legolas Wed 20:15

guys
Moderator

Elrond votes to put Gollum on trial
Legolas Wed 20:15

if you don't vote for goth, you say I talk bullshit right
Sauron Wed 20:15

No we are not voting for you Legolas.
Wed 20:15

Not spliting votes
Frodo Wed 20:15

Might need checking though
WitchKing Wed 20:16

We lynch Gollum tonight, Sauron checks him - in the morning if he's a wolf then we lynch Legolas
Frodo Wed 20:16

Is this why he was so "Did you check me?!" when Grima appeared? ohshiiit
Merry Wed 20:16

I don't think people believe Gothmog is villager........ people are just not convinced that Gothmog was SS (formerly Pippin)
WitchKing Wed 20:16

if he's not a wolf, we lynch Grima and Gothmog
Legolas Wed 20:16

Witch WTF
Wed 20:16

why lynch me? I never ever defended gollum
Sauron Wed 20:16

Yeah you tried to vote out Grima first thing in the morning
WitchKing Wed 20:16

if Sauron dies tonight, we assume Gollum is a wolf
Wed 20:17

but tbh, Elrond could protect Sauron
Wed 20:17

wait, we still have Huntsman too, right?
Sauron Wed 20:17

And now when Gollum looks really clear as a wolf, you drove our attention to Gothmog.
WitchKing Wed 20:17

and they haven't come out?
Legolas Wed 20:17

no
Sauron Wed 20:17

We don't have HM
WitchKing Wed 20:17

ooh, what?
Legolas Wed 20:17

you pay no attention dude
WitchKing Wed 20:17

that sucks
Wed 20:17

:(
Wed 20:17

I know :)
Legolas Wed 20:18

what a reaction
Wed 20:18

Elrond still here?
Elrond Wed 20:19

Yup.
Merry Wed 20:19

where did you get the 5am time for Gothmog Elrond?
Legolas Wed 20:19

what makes you suspicious of me?
Wed 20:19

I tought we were pretty much on the same track
Sauron Wed 20:19

Oh Merry what timezone are you in?
Wed 20:20

I think me and Elrond are in the same timezone. When the day begins, it begins at 5AM for Toronto.
Merry Wed 20:20

I'm in UK
Wed 20:20

I see
Sauron Wed 20:20

Yeah so it should be 9 AM?
WitchKing Wed 20:21

Daybreak is 10am here
Merry Wed 20:21

the day starts at 10am in UK yes
Sauron Wed 20:21

Yeah and it is 5AM in where me and Elrond lives
Legolas Wed 20:21

and what has this to do with Goth?
Merry Wed 20:21

ok, I understsand now
Sauron Wed 20:22

Gothmog spoke at 10AM where Merry lives in both day 2 and 3.
Merry Wed 20:22

Elrond says Goth is not SS because of Goth + Pippin different activity times
Sauron Wed 20:22

^
Legolas Wed 20:22

Goth is NOT graverobber
Merry Wed 20:23

yes, Goth is a wolf - I think everyone is in agreement?
Sauron Wed 20:23

Gollum is not seer either.
Merry Wed 20:23

I think everyone agrees that too
Frodo Wed 20:23

It's gonna be the quickest game ever
Sauron Wed 20:23

I think not Frodo....
Legolas Wed 20:23

ok
Sauron Wed 20:23

This game looks hard af.
Legolas Wed 20:23

I calm down for a moment
Frodo Wed 20:24

But we have 2/3 :O
Moderator

Legolas votes to put Gollum on trial
Legolas Wed 20:24

if we kill goth next
Merry Wed 20:24

so everyone thinkgs Goth and Gollum are wolves...... the question tonight is which one to kill.......
Legolas Wed 20:24

I see your point why you get suspicious
WitchKing Wed 20:24

@Gothmog - are you or Gollum the shapeshifter?
Sauron Wed 20:24

Gollum is BH
Wed 20:24

We lynch Gollum and I check Gollum
WitchKing Wed 20:25

hmm, that makes sense
Legolas Wed 20:25

I see saurons point
Sauron Wed 20:25

If he is indeed a wolf
Gollum Wed 20:25

WitchKing Wed 20:16 We lynch Gollum tonight, Sauron checks him - in the morning if he's a wolf then we lynch Legolas
Legolas Wed 20:25

that's a smart tought
Gollum Wed 20:25

And when yuppy do that you'll see I'm seer
Wed 20:25

You*
Wed 20:25

Big mistake
WitchKing Wed 20:25

how big?
Gollum Wed 20:25

Well I'm seer so I can potentially find other wolves
Sauron Wed 20:25

If Gollum somehow someway is the real seer then Grima WitchKing and Gothmog lynch :/
Gollum Wed 20:26

As you know
Legolas Wed 20:26

Witchking do you understand that I never defended gollum, I'm just 100% on Goth
WitchKing Wed 20:26

Sauron
Merry Wed 20:26

Sauron - why must Gollum be the BH?
WitchKing Wed 20:26

if Gollum is seer, you should lynch Frodo
Legolas Wed 20:26

Gollum knew some roles
Elrond Wed 20:26

Why lynch Frodo?
Legolas Wed 20:26

which is a good point for either seeh or bh
Gollum Wed 20:26

Cause he's a wolf
WitchKing Wed 20:26

because Gollum said Frodo was a wolf
Elrond Wed 20:26

Frodo saw that I protected Aragorn.
Legolas Wed 20:26

before that he said he's a harlor^^
Wed 20:26

*harlot
Sauron Wed 20:27

@Merry Oh he implied that Frodo is a Harlot, and then said that Frodo is a wolf.
WitchKing Wed 20:27

so if Gollum is the seer - which he's not - then lynching Frodo is sensible
Gollum Wed 20:27

Frodo saw nothing because he's lying
Elrond Wed 20:27

If that was a guess and he was a wolf and not a harlot, that's a pretty risky guess.
Legolas Wed 20:27

or Goth :D
Gollum Wed 20:27

It's possible he's BH though
Legolas Wed 20:27

ok new plan
Wed 20:27

We lynch Gollum, Goth, Grimma
WitchKing Wed 20:27

all the Gs!
Legolas Wed 20:28

GGG
Gollum Wed 20:28

Yeah, great idea Lego
WitchKing Wed 20:28

no
Wed 20:28

ugh, don't google that guys
Legolas Wed 20:28

looooooooool
Wed 20:28

I see
Wed 20:28

wasn't intentional, sry for your brain witch :)
Merry Wed 20:28

why kill Grima..?
Sauron Wed 20:28

Hey, if we are lynching Gollum today, should I check Pippin or Gollum?
Gollum Wed 20:28

Why kill gollum?
Wed 20:29

Check me
WitchKing Wed 20:29

Sauron - Gollum please
Sauron Wed 20:29

Because he is a wolf pretending to be a seer
Gollum Wed 20:29

Since then you'll regret lynching me
Merry Wed 20:29

you never explained your checks Gollum
Wed 20:29

I asked twice and you just go silent
Legolas Wed 20:29

look, if gollum dies and he's a wolf, he can take me with him
Merry Wed 20:29

it's easy to explain as seer why you checked someone
Legolas Wed 20:30

it's the right play for a wolf
Wed 20:30

one positive one negative, if he fails I die, if he succeeds frodo dies
Merry Wed 20:30

Lego why did you say kill Grima?
Gollum Wed 20:30

So I checked Lego because in the first day he was talking actively and seemed like he knew what was going on, possibly even in a suspicious manner, so I checked him, turns out he is clean, a villager
Merry Wed 20:31

and Frodo?
Legolas Wed 20:31

Merry when I played secret hitler we skipped all the ppl. who were in conflict with someone else
Gollum Wed 20:31

Next night I checked Frodo because he seemed to be acting in a wolfy sort of way
Wed 20:31

Turns out my suspicions were true
Wed 20:31

He is wolf
Merry Wed 20:31

did he say something in particular Gollum?
Gollum Wed 20:31

My next target was going to be Sauron since I can't figure him out at all
Wed 20:31

But after today I'm not sure who to go for
Merry Wed 20:32

We could do with Eowyn to come back and confirm no role... as they are all claimed, more than once lol
Gollum Wed 20:32

Possibly Grima or Merry, but also considered Witch and Elrond, mainly because they seem set heavily against me, adamant that I an fake
Elrond Wed 20:33

Why would you waste a check on me?
Moderator

Legolas votes to put Gothmog on trial
Merry Wed 20:33

What about Gothmog, Gollum?
Legolas Wed 20:33

I'm just not sure enough on gollum, I give up
Wed 20:34

we have a clear lynch and we discuss a 50/50 seer question
Wed 20:36

wolves plz kill me tonight, so I can join next round. After all the time I spent here trying to figure stuff out, I'm even the lynch for the next round. You got played guys. GG
Wed 20:36

I'm out
Merry Wed 20:36

I think the reason for killing Gollum over Gothmog is because he is more likely Bloodhound and possibly SS since people believe Gothmog is same person as yesterday
Legolas Wed 20:37

fking bh is useless now
Wed 20:37

all roles are open
Wed 20:37

why do you even care
Wed 20:37

it makes no sense
Wed 20:37

you guys don't even think
Merry Wed 20:37

my vote has always been on Gothmog
Legolas Wed 20:38

but thereis no reason to kill the bh, he's like any other wolf now
Moderator

Sauron votes to put Gothmog on trial
Sauron Wed 20:38

W.e
Wed 20:38

Let's just kill Gothmog
Merry Wed 20:38

now votes are tied 4-4
Sauron Wed 20:39

Move to Gothmog.
Wed 20:39

Make me live one more night
Aragorn Wed 20:40

lil lego is gettin real riled up
Moderator

Aragorn votes to put Gollum on trial
Merry Wed 20:41

now votes are 5-3 in favour of Gollum
Sauron Wed 20:41

Sorry @Legolas, We are not "graverobber" like you so of course we won't think that he is 100% wolf.
Legolas Wed 20:41

I understand that
Wed 20:42

it's just so.... frustrating
Wed 20:43

Aragorn, yep I get passionate, because I actually care ;/
Grima Wed 20:43

Gollum Wed 20:32 Possibly Grima or Merry
Wed 20:43

why would I be a next check for him
Wed 20:43

if he telling truth
Sauron Wed 20:43

Yeah we understand that Grima
Merry Wed 20:43

yea Gollum not being all over Grima isn't right...
Legolas Wed 20:43

but guys...
Grima Wed 20:44

not sure who I should check, legolas seems like he's trying to cover for gollum a bit too much... not sure if that is worth a check though
Legolas Wed 20:44

if you suspect gollum to be bh, which is useless now, isn't it more important to go after a potential shapeshifter?
Elrond Wed 20:44

Check Legolas.
Merry Wed 20:44

that could be either of them Lego?
Wed 20:45

oh wait, misread that
Legolas Wed 20:45

I think the town has a pretty clear opinion of Gollum
Wed 20:45

and that's BH right?
Wed 20:46

if gollum is bh, we have a shapeshifter
Wed 20:47

which role should BH sniff out?
Elrond Wed 20:47

=
Wed 20:47

luwegbtfbe
Legolas Wed 20:48

aha
Elrond Wed 20:48

ghhhhhhne2G
Wed 20:48

8WAESF0
Merry Wed 20:49

??
Legolas Wed 20:49

ok can someone explain me my evil masterplan?
Wed 20:50

So I'm super town until I try to defend gollum, who cracked under pressure within 3 seconds of witchkings stare
Wed 20:50

that's some really bad plan guys
Wed 20:51

gollum is undefendable
Wed 20:51

there is no credibility left
Wed 20:52

and I'm suspicious because he cleared me, it's obviously his anchor
Wed 20:52

because the moment I said it there was no shade on my at all
Wed 20:52

*me
Wed 20:53

if you ever played before, if you do something like that you take one credible read and add one fake
Wed 20:54

you don't go and say "Elrond and Legolas are wolves" noone gonna fking believe you
Grima Wed 20:55

no you're suspicious because you tried to divert attention away from him since his utterly poor defence
Legolas Wed 20:55

I said lets kill him tomorrow
Merry Wed 20:55

Frodo (HARLOT), Aragorn (HARLOT), Gollum (SEER), Grima (SEER), Elrond (PROTECTOR), Sauron (GRAVEDIGGER), Gothmog (GRAVEROBBER), Legolas (GRAVEROBBER).. 8 roles claimed out of 6 possible... Not heard from EOWYN since this morning, EOWYN could claim role too.... Gollum(1st SEER) checked Legolas (villager) and then Frodo (wolf)..... Grima (2nd SEER) checked Witchking (villager) then Merry (villager)
Grima Wed 20:55

when it was apparent he was being voted for anyway?
Legolas Wed 20:55

it was 2:0
Merry Wed 20:55

I hope Eowyn comes back tonight
Legolas Wed 20:55

or something
Sauron Wed 20:56

It was 3:1 I am just watching here.
Legolas Wed 20:56

ok
Elrond Wed 20:56

Wow, those accidental keyboard smashes though.
Legolas Wed 20:56

it went up to 4/4
Wed 20:56

look I'm really butthurt I get so much slack right now
Wed 20:57

because this stuff here wasn't what I aimed for when I went for goth
Wed 20:57

I saw he claimed the same role as I have and went for it
Eowyn Wed 20:57

Wait, just reading through? Did somebody else claim grave digger?
Legolas Wed 20:57

Eowyn are you digger?
Merry Wed 20:57

Sauron did
Legolas Wed 20:58

this could get interessting
Eowyn Wed 20:59

Nah, day playing Avalon with the Mod, and he thought it would be funny for me to claim grave digger....
Legolas Wed 20:59

so you have no role?
Sauron Wed 20:59

Eowyn, what is your role?
Eowyn Wed 20:59

I actually have no role in this game, just a villager
Sauron Wed 20:59

Dammit, was about to move mine vote to Eowyn after she claims GD LOL
Legolas Wed 21:00

lol
Sauron Wed 21:00

So villager eh... hmm....
Eowyn Wed 21:00

Sorry, playing a game in real life, and on here, struggling to keep up with both..
Sauron Wed 21:01

Legolas, Grima, Gothmog, Gollum. 2/4 of them has to be a wolf.
Eowyn Wed 21:01

I read earlier that gollum claimed bloodhound, is this still the case?
Legolas Wed 21:01

who was the second person grima checked?
Sauron Wed 21:01

Merry
Merry Wed 21:01

gollum didn't claim to be BH, did he? wtf
Sauron Wed 21:02

Gollum never claimed BH, but he implied that Frodo is a Harlot, and then calls Frodo a wolf, and then Frodo claims Harlot himself
Legolas Wed 21:02

I fully trust merry, I trust WitchKing until he put that dagger in my back
Wed 21:03

since merry is the one who came up with goth, I think I can go with grima
Wed 21:03

that Frodo Harlot --> Wolf made no sense
Merry Wed 21:03

Eowyn - have a read over Gothmog chat today and yesterday and let me know whether you think it is same person
Wed 21:03

there is not a lot to read
Moderator

Legolas votes to put Gollum on trial
Legolas Wed 21:05

hey for tonight
Sauron Wed 21:06

Is it worth it to check Gollum? Idk who should I check as GD
Legolas Wed 21:06

it would be cool for a harlot to watch me, and then grima checks me
Sauron Wed 21:06

And I hope I live 1 more day too
Legolas Wed 21:06

likes this we can see if he really visited
Wed 21:06

which would verify him as seer
Wed 21:06

is this agreeable?
Sauron Wed 21:07

Who should I check tonight?
Wed 21:07

I think I can somewhat agree with that
Wed 21:07

But then again Grima could be BH too? Tho Gollum is so wolfy
Legolas Wed 21:07

gollum but I don't think him being a wolve automaticly puts me in the same category, I was about goth all the time
Merry Wed 21:08

If Pippin was SS and he went into Gothmog.... what would a Gravedigger check on Pippin say.. that he was a villager?
Sauron Wed 21:09

I think we will get "Unknown" in return
Legolas Wed 21:09

"unknown"
Wed 21:09

I don't think I will die tonight, because if I die, I'm proven right :P
Merry Wed 21:09

so then you are sure he was SS since it says "unknown"?
Sauron Wed 21:09

No we never checked him
Merry Wed 21:09

I mean tomorrow, if he is checked tonight
Sauron Wed 21:10

Oh yeah
Merry Wed 21:10

I would check Pippin then since I don't have any doubt about Gollum..
Legolas Wed 21:10

look I don't think it matters, if Sauron checks Gollum and Grima checks me, we will know I'm vilager, so then my claim on Goth becomes a fact
Wed 21:11

agree/not agree?
Merry Wed 21:12

I think Pippin should be checked
Wed 21:12

because of what I just said above, it will confirm if he's SS
Legolas Wed 21:12

checking pippin doesn't rule out that Goth got a wolve role, it could lead to false conclusions
Wed 21:12

*has
Wed 21:13

if we check pippin and he's not unknown, we would probably clear goth
Wed 21:13

which is wrong
Gollum Wed 21:13

okay, so no matter what i say or how i say, how long i say it or how loudly, none of you are going to believe me in saying i'm a seer. Well, Frodo will be laughing all through the day as he has got off getting lynched, so fair play to him, but i'm sorry that you're getting rid of me. I'm sure come the end of the game you will realise i was telling the truth. I clearly need to learn how to play this game, how to argue my point and read everything that happens, understand the nuances, and generally just do better. As it is I seem to suck at it... But this game has drawn me in far too much and I've been reading it obsessively to the point where i've been distracted from everything else. I could give you a break down of my day to validate why i've been gone for long periods, but i doubt that would help either...In the end, Frodo and his other wolves, probably Grima and Merry, have done really well in convincing you all against me, so good luck and i hope you can figure them out before they win...
Merry Wed 21:14

Lego - if the GD check on Pippin says villager then I still think Goth is wolf. If it says "unknown" then I think Goth is SS.
Legolas Wed 21:14

Gollum I know that goth is not graverobber, so one person in this list is wrong
Wed 21:15

at least
Sauron Wed 21:15

I will check Gollum then :)
Legolas Wed 21:15

Aragon still here?
Merry Wed 21:15

I suppose from checking Gollum you find out what type of wolf he is
Legolas Wed 21:16

it would be good if aragorn checks me, frodo is involved in some twist
Merry Wed 21:16

but I'd rather know whether Goth is SS or not.. by checking Pippin
Aragorn Wed 21:16

,,,,,
Wed 21:16

why would i check lego
Legolas Wed 21:16

Aragorn, if you visit me and grima checks you can be certian right?
Eowyn Wed 21:17

@merry I will do that asap, be can't guarantee tonight, earlier someone quoted gollum something like fine, I'm BH
Legolas Wed 21:17

because like this we can verify if we got the right seer
Wed 21:17

grima said he will check me
Aragorn Wed 21:17

smh fine
Legolas Wed 21:17

if you watch me you can verify 2 things at one
WitchKing Wed 21:18

Elrond is protecting Sauron ronight, right?
Legolas Wed 21:18

he's abck
Wed 21:18

*back
Elrond Wed 21:18

I didn't say that.
Legolas Wed 21:19

I still trust elron, he will know what to do
WitchKing Wed 21:19

What's Eowyn talking about?
Legolas Wed 21:19

she's back and has to read up on some stuff
Wed 21:19

^^
Merry Wed 21:19

Eowyn is on about reading the chat log by Gothmog to decide if same person
Wed 21:20

today as yesterday
Legolas Wed 21:20

Witch king, do you agree with my plan?
WitchKing Wed 21:20

ah, okay
Wed 21:20

Lego, repeat is please
Wed 21:20

cba scrolling up :$
Legolas Wed 21:20

Aragorn watches me, and Grima checks me, like this we can verify that grima is the real seer
WitchKing Wed 21:21

Grima *could* be BH ofc
Gollum Wed 21:21

good luck with that Legolas
WitchKing Wed 21:21

I think Sauron checking Gollum is best
Legolas Wed 21:21

yes
Gollum Wed 21:21

yes
WitchKing Wed 21:21

and Elrond protecting Sauton
Sauron Wed 21:21

If you guys insist...
WitchKing Wed 21:21

Sauron*
Sauron Wed 21:22

I wanted to check Pippin lol
Legolas Wed 21:22

Witchking but like this we cover both ways
Elrond Wed 21:22

I'm not telling anyone who I'm checking.
Wed 21:22

protecting*
Sauron Wed 21:22

*Protecting
Legolas Wed 21:22

either Witching I hope we can go into a beatiful relationship together when I'm cleared tomorrow :)
Gollum Wed 21:23

if graverobber is still alive they can become seer when seer dies right?
Merry Wed 21:23

who do people think the wolves are then?? Gollum, Gothmog and who?
Sauron Wed 21:23

Eowyn
Gollum Wed 21:23

i already said, Frodo, Grima, Merry
Sauron Wed 21:23

Only one left
Legolas Wed 21:23

shit if Grima is BH I'm f'êd :S
Gollum Wed 21:23

though when Grima/merry switches as SS i don't know who they will pick
Sauron Wed 21:23

How?
Wed 21:24

Oh nvm
Merry Wed 21:24

Lego who do you think 3rd wolf is?
Legolas Wed 21:24

grima will say I'm wolve, and aragorn can confirm it
Wed 21:24

because for him it looks the same
Sauron Wed 21:24

Yeah but that is what the Gollum check from GD is for :P
Legolas Wed 21:25

true
Gollum Wed 21:26

Gollum Wed 21:23 if graverobber is still alive they can become seer when seer dies right?
Wed 21:26

any of you even readin what i say now?
Sauron Wed 21:26

Yeah so don't rob Gollum and become a potential BH *Scared face
Gollum Wed 21:27

¬____¬
Wed 21:27

checkme first obviously...
Sauron Wed 21:27

I am not sure of how BH work.
Wed 21:27

Um alrighty
Merry Wed 21:27

let's kill Lego to stop any attempt at moving team
Gollum Wed 21:27

BH knows exactly the role
Sauron Wed 21:27

Hey kill her last :P
Wed 21:28

If Lego does decide to switch team
Merry Wed 21:28

only joking Lego
Wed 21:29

but yea if game is still ongoing after Gollum+Goth+Eowyn+Frodo are dead (if that's even possible) then kill Lego :D
Legolas Wed 21:29

I just think of a scenario where I get lynched innocent. and I see it's enough if grima is BH, then I die
Merry Wed 21:30

It seems to me only Eowyn and Frodo are the viable 3rd options for wolf... does anyone disagree?
Legolas Wed 21:30

or Grima + Sauron
Gollum Wed 21:31

Lego since i've confirmed you're villager at least believe me that Frodo is wol
Wed 21:31

f
Merry Wed 21:31

yea I mean on assumption we believe Grima is Seer and Sauron is GD...
Sauron Wed 21:31

So if Gollum is the real seer: Wolves are Frodo, Grima, and Gothmog/Legolas. If Grima is the real seer: Wolves are Gollum, Lego/Goth, and Eowyn
Gollum Wed 21:31

if you believe gollum Lego is not wolf
Sauron Wed 21:31

Right forgot about that
Merry Wed 21:31

that's how I see it Sauron
Legolas Wed 21:32

yay I'm on both scenarios
Wed 21:32

I fed up
Merry Wed 21:32

no wait, I see FRODO/Goth not Lego/Goth
Sauron Wed 21:32

Aragorn has a really slim chance of being a wolf if Grima is the seer. Come on Legolas, I said Goth/Lego.
Merry Wed 21:32

why do you clear Frodo?
Gollum Wed 21:33

who is clearing Frodo?
Sauron Wed 21:33

I mean, no matter what, Lego/ Goth is a wolf
Merry Wed 21:33

Sauron
Sauron Wed 21:33

The 3rd one is a Wildcard
Gollum Wed 21:33

no
Wed 21:33

Sauron
Wed 21:33

no
Wed 21:33

Lego is not wolf
Wed 21:33

do you even listen?
Sauron Wed 21:33

Of course you would say that =_=
Gollum Wed 21:34

yes because i'm the fucking seer
Merry Wed 21:34

votes are Gollum 6, Gothmog 2, Frodo 1 (Gollum)
Sauron Wed 21:34

Oh Gollum is selling his teammate Gothmog now. Vote Gothmog tomorrow lol
Merry Wed 21:34

Gothmog has not voted...
WitchKing Wed 21:34

Sauron, I think Gollum means if he is the real seer, Lego is not a wolf right?
Gollum Wed 21:35

since when has Gothmog been my teammate?
Legolas Wed 21:35

well the safe space in my head is that in the end chat after the game is over, ppl. will see that I was right :)
Sauron Wed 21:35

Yeah I got the idea @WitchKing
Gollum Wed 21:35

that's my only solace too
Sauron Wed 21:35

But the way Gollum speak, speaks like when I was pretending to be a seer lol.
Wed 21:36

Not the part where he screwed up of course
Gollum Wed 21:36

i've never seen you in a game before
Wed 21:36

i'm good at the screwing up part
Legolas Wed 21:36

and when it's over I can mock someone for a long time :P
WitchKing Wed 21:36

Who are you going to mock? :O
Sauron Wed 21:36

The way he defended Legolas, the way he typed a big paragraph of frustration. All indications that he is a wolf.
Wed 21:36

I think mocking me
Merry Wed 21:37

mocking why
WitchKing Wed 21:37

oh, that's okay then
Wed 21:37

I mock you all the time
Gollum Wed 21:37

@Sauron I am legitimately frustrated
Wed 21:37

like, seriously
Sauron Wed 21:37

Thank you.
Legolas Wed 21:37

Witch either you're a extremely good Wolf or you made some big mistakes today, if you're a wolve, I will bow my head
Gollum Wed 21:37

is that to me Lego>?
Sauron Wed 21:37

He said Witch
Gollum Wed 21:38

oh, yah
Legolas Wed 21:38

nah Talking to witch, the guy who backstabbed me :P
Gollum Wed 21:38

sorry
Wed 21:38

cool
Sauron Wed 21:38

FK lemme check Lego's gender. I kept on switching between he and she
Gollum Wed 21:38

Legolas is a he
Wed 21:38

:p
Legolas Wed 21:38

Legloas is a male elf
Sauron Wed 21:38

Oh okay it is a he, ty
Gollum Wed 21:38

thee are no female elves in LOTR
Wed 21:38

(in the books)
Sauron Wed 21:38

Yeah never watched LOTR :/
Gollum Wed 21:38

except Galadriel
Wed 21:38

ahh, you should, it's good
Wed 21:39

anyway, we digress
Legolas Wed 21:39

another question for tomorrow
Wed 21:39

who says first
Wed 21:39

Sauron or Grima?
Sauron Wed 21:40

Says the check result?
Legolas Wed 21:40

yes
Merry Wed 21:40

Who will the SS move into tonight if they are alive?
Sauron Wed 21:40

Well I am not sure if this is clear enough but I am almost 100% real GD, so use that as a clue?
Gollum Wed 21:40

well i believe grima is talking out of his ass
Legolas Wed 21:41

what if sauron or girma gets ss'ed?
WitchKing Wed 21:41

this is why I think Elrond should protect Sauron
Sauron Wed 21:41

Someone tries to fake me? Good luck with that :P
Gollum Wed 21:41

grima won't
Wed 21:41

sauron] might
Legolas Wed 21:41

hahaha
Merry Wed 21:42

grima doesn't say much, it's easy to SS into
Legolas Wed 21:42

yep
Sauron Wed 21:42

Yeah Merry has a point, but then again I am 100% GD so.
Legolas Wed 21:42

the positive is they can't ss both
Merry Wed 21:42

Pippin was SS anyway so not to worry
Gollum Wed 21:43

Meerry you seem to be sticking up fro Grima a lot
Merry Wed 21:43

I am?
Wed 21:43

I'm just going along with him being Seer
Gollum Wed 21:43

yeah, at least pretty much everything i've seen you talk about seems to mention Grima
Wed 21:44

ahh got you
Wed 21:44

well that makes sense i guess
Merry Wed 21:44

I've hardly mentioned him lol
Gollum Wed 21:45

well let's just say it sticks in my mind
Wed 21:45

the two of you like little hairy peas in a pod
Merry Wed 21:45

doesn't make any sense because I've hardly mentioned him
Gollum Wed 21:46

heh, i'm clearly losing my mind then
Sauron Wed 21:46

Yeah Gollum just starting random fights before he is about to be lynched
WitchKing Wed 21:46

the sad thing is, I'm actually starting to believe Gollum
Wed 21:46

but I'm still going to lynch him
Gollum Wed 21:46

i hope life is good without your seer
Sauron Wed 21:46

Any last words? You have 14 minutes left. Sing a song or something.
Legolas Wed 21:47

GO FOR GOTH
Wed 21:47

:)
Moderator

Legolas votes to put Gothmog on trial
Gollum Wed 21:47

Alive without breath; As cold as death; Never thirsting, ever drinking; Clad in mail never clinking.
Wed 21:47

Drowns on dry land, Thinks an island Is a mountain; Thinks a fountain Is a puff of air.
Wed 21:47

So sleek, so fair! What a joy to meet! We only wish To catch a fish, So juicy-sweet!
Wed 21:48

or the film version:
Wed 21:48

The rock and pool Is nice and cool, So juicy-sweet! Our only wish, To catch a fish, So juicy-sweet!
Elrond Wed 21:48

What the heck? Okay.
Gollum Wed 21:48

it's Gollum's song
Wed 21:49

http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Gollum's_Song
Sauron Wed 21:49

:'( Beautiful song. Thank you Gollum.
Gollum Wed 21:49

thought it would be topical
Legolas Wed 21:49

hey gollum I'm not sure if you're right or wrong, but I totally enjoyed your roleplay approach :)
Gollum Wed 21:49

thanks ^^
Legolas Wed 21:49

we will meet in grave and drink a beer I guess
Gollum Wed 21:49

we hope you live a long life
Legolas Wed 21:50

I'm an elf :P
Wed 21:50

could take some time^^
Gollum Wed 21:50

then it shall be!
Wed 21:50

we understand you can drink beer better than a dwarf
Wed 21:50

pity the dwarf is not here
Aragorn Wed 21:51

LIGHTS UP ON WASHINGTON HEIGHTS UP AT THE BREAK OF DAY
Merry Wed 21:51

the last game i played the Seer was very new..... one person came out as Seer and then later in day the REAL SEER (the new guy) also claimed to be Seer but his words were not very convincing and then the following day he says "guys I checked the other Seer and he is a WOLF" which at time everyone was like that's stupid why would you check someone you know must be lying since he's claimed same role as you so we lynched the REAL SEER........ Gollum reminds me of that real Seer a bit when he says stuff like "I suspect Grima".. how can you just suspect him, you must know!
Sauron Wed 21:51

Oh if that is what happened last game, it happened in mine 036 game too xD
Merry Wed 21:52

that was game where THOR was the fake Seer, if anyone played that
Legolas Wed 21:52

PIPPIN: I didn't think it would end this way. GANDALF: End? No, the journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path, one that we all must take.
Sauron Wed 21:52

ROFL
Aragorn Wed 21:52

I WAKE UP AND IVE GOT THIS LITTLE PUNK I GOTTA CHASE AWAY
Gollum Wed 21:52

@Legolas <3
Sauron Wed 21:53

@Merry Truth will be out tomorrow morning. I was Thor that game btw. Tho we should keep the discussion of other games at minimum :/
Gollum Wed 21:53

i suspect him because he is claiming seer, whilst i am real seer, confirmed Frodo is wolf, he is trying to protect his fellow wolf, and no one can refute him because no one but me is seer
Wed 21:53

and i have not checked him, so cannot confirm
Aragorn Wed 21:54

POP THE GRATE AT THE CRACK OF DAWN SING
Merry Wed 21:54

you "suspect"? he's claiming same role! of course he must be a wolf in your opinion!
Legolas Wed 21:54

WitchKing you still sure I need to be lynched tomorrow?
Aragorn Wed 21:55

WHILE I WIPE DOWN THE AWNING
Gollum Wed 21:55

yes, suspect, un-checked by me - now it is totally unreasonable that a villager would also claim seer, why would that benefit them?
Wed 21:55

so he's got to be a bloody wolf
WitchKing Wed 21:55

Legolas, lets see how tomorrow plays out
Gollum Wed 21:55

wolfy wolfy wolfy
Aragorn Wed 21:55

HEY YALL GMORNING
Merry Wed 21:55

it's not suspect though is it, you know he is wolf
Gollum Wed 21:55

and he'll die because he's the SS and live on as someone else
Wed 21:56

yes okay
Wed 21:56

i know
Wed 21:56

i guess i'm just not great with the right words, whatever
Legolas Wed 21:56

I'm sorry if I insulted anyone today. I was a bit emotional, :(
Gollum Wed 21:56

so that's 2 confirmed wolves
Merry Wed 21:56

Frodo + Grima
Sauron Wed 21:56

Haha it is good to put emotions into the game! @Legolas
Gollum Wed 21:56

but one is probably SS, and i think that's Grima, with BH being Frodo
Wed 21:57

and i feel you've been on their side and sort of protecting them, so that is why i'm suspciious
Wed 21:57

of you too
Merry Wed 21:57

well I've been all over Gothmog, I didn't think Lego had to come out and reveal role
Legolas Wed 21:58

Hey Gollum Good game, and I really enjoyed your roleplay. Was fun to read. Good stuff!
Gollum Wed 21:58

nearly famous last words time
Merry Wed 21:58

Frodo I don't know about
Gollum Wed 21:58

i'll come back for another game Lego
Wed 21:58

maybe not 44
Legolas Wed 21:58

:)
Gollum Wed 21:58

possibly 45 if i've recovered from this one
Merry Wed 21:58

could have BH checked Pippin night one and then simply claimed role as Harlot
Gollum Wed 21:58

it's been traumtic
Sauron Wed 21:58

LOL recovered xD
Legolas Wed 21:59

I know this is bad for me, but I will miss gollum ^^
Gollum Wed 21:59

anyway...Whatever luck you live by... let's hope it lasts the night.
Sauron Wed 21:59

Well goodnight, bye Gollum :(
Merry Wed 21:59

Gothmog and Eowyn have a conversation now about who to kill next?
Wed 21:59

or who to SS into..
Legolas Wed 21:59

Death to Gothmog!
Wed 22:00

:D
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