ext-300 Day 13 | Online Werewolf Anniversary Game

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Archy Sun 09:04

Number of kills dropped considerably after Destroy's death
Sun 09:05

I think that means our pursuit of outlaw lynches might be the way to go
Moderator Sun 09:05

Archy votes to lynch bewseer27
bewseer27 Sun 09:06

We could have killed coven they were already blighted, also you've dug the heart haven't you?
Archy Sun 09:07

Why would I have dug the heart?
Sun 09:07

I've said repeatedly, I won't betray the village
Sun 09:07

Not when we might have a shot at winning
bewseer27 Sun 09:07

We could probably have won with village yesterday
Sun 09:08

now things look chancy
Archy Sun 09:08

(explain the kills)
bewseer27 Sun 09:08

vamp, and a witch in marc or birb
FirstSeerCheck Sun 09:08

Village: why didn't you tell us Gio was blighted?
Archy Sun 09:08

I believe that's a question for bew?
FirstSeerCheck Sun 09:09

Also village: since MSW is blighted let's lynch an outlaw.
Archy Sun 09:09

I don't get the sarcasm
bewseer27 Sun 09:09

2 coven and a vamp still alive
Archy Sun 09:10

So who is the vamp then?
Sun 09:10

Do you have any proof?
FirstSeerCheck Sun 09:10

You bitched at us for lynching Gio when we'd blighted him, then when we tell you that you're lynching someone who is probably blighted you go and lynch one of us instead.
Sun 09:11

Archy, why would the Outlaws kill the masons?
Archy Sun 09:11

We've all said this before, and we'll say it again, we don't know what your true agenda ks
bewseer27 Sun 09:12

Items
Sun 09:12

we've said it over and over
Archy Sun 09:12

I know, but we don't know that for sure
FirstSeerCheck Sun 09:12

Okay, so why the hell would I bother confirming them yesterday?
Sun 09:12

Archy, what's coven's win condition?
bewseer27 Sun 09:12

Yes but you know about coven for sure
Sun 09:12

what about vamp
Archy Sun 09:12

Indeed, but they don't have an unlimited amount of kills
Sun 09:12

We don't really know if vamp exists either
bewseer27 Sun 09:13

Oh they do
FirstSeerCheck Sun 09:13

Depends, maybe they have an item that does?
Sun 09:13

Hell, we don't even know for certain that Birb is really a Djinn.
Archy Sun 09:13

Well, if you're gonna hint intel, then spill it
Sun 09:14

If you have no proof, I think it's fair to say they probably don't have an item that lets them kill every night
FirstSeerCheck Sun 09:14

I'm just pissed off that you sided with a confessed evil over a team who have been actively trying to help you.
Sun 09:14

Provably.
Archy Sun 09:15

Well, I get why you're unhappy, if you haven't been contributing to all the non-evil kills at night
FirstSeerCheck Sun 09:15

I ask again, why would we confirm the masons only to kill them?
Archy Sun 09:16

Cause that puts you in a lit-er position?
FirstSeerCheck Sun 09:16

If we wanted them dead, we could have framed them as a basement or something.
Archy Sun 09:16

Then they would vote against you
Sun 09:16

And so would ext
Sun 09:16

That wouldn't be very helpful I don't believe
Sun 09:17

Especially when you're not claiming to be village
bewseer27 Sun 09:17

We allied with village, and we truely kept that goal
FirstSeerCheck Sun 09:17

I think we should lynch MSW today, since we couldn't kill them last night.
Archy Sun 09:18

With the heart? Or with crossbows?
FirstSeerCheck Sun 09:19

Well you put Destry in the ground, so...
Archy Sun 09:19

Ah
Sun 09:19

So crossbows?
FirstSeerCheck Sun 09:20

Bew, you did shoot MSW, right?
bewseer27 Sun 09:21

Yes, he was too lurky
Archy Sun 09:21

I do suspect that MSW, ext and the_player are a basement judging on how quickly the three of them simultaneously piled on Birb to save MSW, but I could be wrong
Moderator Sun 09:21

FirstSeerCheck votes to lynch MapleSyrupWolf
Archy Sun 09:21

Besides, I was not in the position to lynch them yesterday either, the masons also believed they were lit
Sun 09:21

But what do I know
FirstSeerCheck Sun 09:22

I'm going back to bed for a bit
Archy Sun 09:22

Cya
FirstSeerCheck Sun 09:22

See you guys in an hour or so
ext Sun 09:46

Than the Relic Hunter is lit
Moderator Sun 09:47

ext votes to lynch Birb
Archy Sun 09:47

I don't think Birb is the correct lynch, he did not cause the two mason kills yesterday
ext Sun 09:48

it's interesting that the mass killing sphere seems to reduce the moment we lynch an Outlaws
Sun 09:48

so it seems to be a right direction
Sun 09:48

to get rid of them
bewseer27 Sun 09:48

We could have killed the coven last night
Archy Sun 09:48

*says the guy who votes Birb the non-killing coven*
ext Sun 09:48

however, like I said, I have a promise with Outlaws to keep, so my vote is on Birb the coven
Sun 09:49

feel free to keep lynching the outlaws
bewseer27 Sun 09:49

Village doesn't have the numbers to keep lynching us, without losing to either coven, vamp or a new OW
Sun 09:50

We would like to side with village and finish off the rest of the evils
Archy Sun 09:51

I'll observe for now
Sun 09:51

I'd like to win with you in all truthfulness but I don't know if that's possible
bewseer27 Sun 09:51

It is
Archy Sun 09:52

Then, I have your word
bewseer27 Sun 09:52

We hope we have enough items after digging destroy
Archy Sun 09:52

Hopefully
Sun 09:53

You said you blighted MSW?
Sun 09:53

Actually... nvm
Sun 09:54

Me being alive after all the village members are dead just shows how useful I am to the village
bewseer27 Sun 09:54

You really think MSW is lit?
Archy Sun 09:54

No, I don't
Sun 09:54

The mason do tho
Birb Sun 09:55

I mean I'm the only coven left so it will take a while to lose to coven new
Sun 09:55

I swapped some people for fun last night
Sun 09:55

But who
Sun 09:55

Oooooooo
Archy Sun 09:55

Thank God you didn't swap me
Sun 09:56

That would be a nightmare
Birb Sun 09:56

Haha
bewseer27 Sun 09:56

Yeah you don't get this creepy as avatar
Birb Sun 09:56

I also agree that the number of deaths falling after the outlaws dying is good
Archy Sun 09:56

BS
Birb Sun 09:56

New
Sun 09:56

Bew
Sun 09:57

Why didn't you kill me last night?
Sun 09:57

Did you kill anyone?
bewseer27 Sun 09:57

No but we tried to kill MSW
Birb Sun 09:58

Two kills, would have been good if those masons told us their roles
bewseer27 Sun 09:58

We've run a fairly long crucade against lurkers
Birb Sun 09:58

I think msw might just be a vamp
Sun 09:58

Trying to let himself get smited this late in the game is also a mega dick move
Sun 09:59

My current thoughts are either lynch msw or an outlaw. Hmmmm
Archy Sun 09:59

That's your only choice, really
Birb Sun 10:00

I also don't trust ext because after saying he thinks that the outlaws are where all the kills are coming from he voted for me
Sun 10:00

An interesting choice no?
Archy Sun 10:00

I think, at least, it's somewhat obvious that the MSW - ext -theplayer squad is a basement
Sun 10:01

Question is, who is more threatening, the basement or the outlaws
Birb Sun 10:01

The basement? Since the killing already dropped I imagine the outlaws are low on items
Archy Sun 10:01

Also something to note is that we can use the heart of Hades to kill the basement
Sun 10:01

If we ever get it, somehow
Birb Sun 10:03

Lol, hope you dug it
Archy Sun 10:03

This is looking more and more grim by the second
Birb Sun 10:03

I think we need to get a basement for sure now
Archy Sun 10:03

Go ahead
Moderator Sun 10:03

Birb votes to lynch MapleSyrupWolf
Birb Sun 10:04

Also here's the kicker: if that is a basement of 3 they can get vote control by asking outlaws to vote with them
Archy Sun 10:04

Notice how the outlaws aren't voting with them
Birb Sun 10:04

BUT I imagine outlaws don't have the items to win so wouldn't do that
Sun 10:04

Yes I think the outlaws are still village aligned
Sun 10:05

But I would like ext to answer why he voted for me when he thinks the outlaws are where the kills are coming from
Archy Sun 10:07

He said he had a promise to keep
Sun 10:07

It was for the outlaws giving him an armour piece
Birb Sun 10:08

I think if you lynch me today the village will lose
Archy Sun 10:09

It's not desirable, I don't think
Birb Sun 10:09

I'm gonna go get breakfast cya in a bit
Archy Sun 10:09

Cya
MarcWide Sun 10:50

Oh. Hello.
Sun 10:50

I was Thanwwes.
Sun 10:50

Birb you are a meme.
Sun 10:51

Return me to my purple home at once!
Moderator Sun 10:52

MarcWide votes to lynch MapleSyrupWolf
MarcWide Sun 10:52

I support finally getting around to this lynch.
Sun 10:54

I also think we should get rid of the Outlaws tomorrow onwards, depending on the number of deaths.
Birb Sun 11:12

Hehehe
Archy Sun 11:12

Tbh
Sun 11:12

Why are the outlaws prolonging a faction win?
Sun 11:13

Theyve probably already dug 50% items already
Sun 11:13

If they side with the vamps, it's an instant win for them
bewseer27 Sun 11:26

We like ext, he at least believes in us
Archy Sun 11:27

Ext confirmed MSW tho
Sun 11:27

I daresay, if MSW if an evil, so is ext
bewseer27 Sun 11:29

depends on when fams happeb or what items are around
Birb Sun 11:30

Yes. From the remaining players they are the most likely vamp basement
Archy Sun 11:30

The outlaws do know who the vamp is, don't you?
Sun 11:31

Why don't you tell us who's in the basement?
bewseer27 Sun 11:33

You lynch us then ask us for more info
Archy Sun 11:33

Well, the outlaws did suggest a lynch of MSW
bewseer27 Sun 11:34

We know that the_player is almost certainly village, I can give you that
MarcWide Sun 11:34

Likely that they think that MSW is the Vamp.
Sun 11:35

You say that, Bew, but you're probably going to kill him tonight because of that reason.
Birb Sun 11:36

Bew: can you not see from village perspective that a member of your team dies and the number of deaths drastically decreases?
bewseer27 Sun 11:36

We wouldn't do that to our beep boop bro, even after yesterday
FirstSeerCheck Sun 11:37

Birb, yet there were still two deaths. And I explained where all of our kills have come from.
Archy Sun 11:38

This, might come off as rude, but it's possible, that there are two kills because you two are still alive
Sun 11:38

Welcome back fsc
Birb Sun 11:38

FSC: Yes I think there is a vamp basement somewhere
bewseer27 Sun 11:39

We would never want to win with MSW they are way too lurky
MarcWide Sun 11:39

Oh? So who do you want to win with? The village? The basement?
Archy Sun 11:40

You talk about pride in winning gloriously, which I believe most of us have little in...
Birb Sun 11:40

Bew: I agree allowing yourself to be smited is a dick movr
Archy Sun 11:40

That makes sense
Sun 11:40

I take that back
Birb Sun 11:40

I'm just along for the ride at this point
MarcWide Sun 11:40

*hugs birb*
Birb Sun 11:41

I always liked you Than
MarcWide Sun 11:41

We're AAAALLLLL in this togEEEther
Birb Sun 11:41

Aka Marc
Sun 11:41

Lol
Sun 11:41

WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER!!
Archy Sun 11:41

Birb probably has a lifespan of one day left
Birb Sun 11:41

Indeed
Archy Sun 11:41

He's a goner
Birb Sun 11:41

Chirp chirp
MarcWide Sun 11:41

Birb is at peace with it.
Birb Sun 11:42

I have accepted my fate and will join the raveyard and be back with my people
Archy Sun 11:42

Marc, steal from me tonight?
Sun 11:42

I wanna see if you can still steal
MarcWide Sun 11:42

Will do.
Archy Sun 11:42

Yknow, can never be too safe
Birb Sun 11:43

You could always give me a crossbow
Sun 11:43

Y'know
Sun 11:43

Why not
Sun 11:44

Promise I'll shoot a fam
MarcWide Sun 11:44

leaked image of birb https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/005/638/BirdsWithArms01.jpg
Archy Sun 11:44

Why would I give that to you?
Sun 11:44

I doubt you can even use that
Sun 11:44

With your feeble talons
Birb Sun 11:44

Oi
Sun 11:45

I have a lil teacup hat
Archy Sun 11:45

I don't see how that's relevant
Sun 11:45

Sigh, coven and wolves just get smacked so hard in these massive setups
Sun 11:46

How many did you start off with?
Birb Sun 11:46

If outlaws had listened to me last night they would have seen me asking the mod for a crossbow
Sun 11:46

Surprisingly he denied my request :O
Sun 11:46

Erm let me look
MarcWide Sun 11:47

MARK YOU SICK MAN
Birb Sun 11:47

7
Sun 11:47

4 puppetos
Sun 11:47

Poor pm
Archy Sun 11:48

Lol
MarcWide Sun 11:48

Poor PM indeed. Did they cope with that workload at all?
Archy Sun 11:48

Obviously nkt
Birb Sun 11:48

I was impressed
Archy Sun 11:48

Goodboi only speaks like three times per day
Birb Sun 11:48

They only got caught by that potion of clarity
Sun 11:49

Sad
Archy Sun 11:49

We all dance together... In the GY...
Sun 11:49

I think I might die as well
MarcWide Sun 11:49

FeelsWideMan
Archy Sun 11:49

TMR: everyone dies
Sun 11:49

Demons win by default
Sun 11:49

No discord roles for anyone!
Birb Sun 11:50

Any self respecting demon didn't ignite unless it ends the game
MarcWide Sun 11:50

Everyone dies except Birb, Coven wins.
Birb Sun 11:50

Doesn't
Sun 11:50

But I'm really omegabirb
Sun 11:50

Muhahahaha
MarcWide Sun 11:50

Where do you think the basement is? Ext, The_Player, MSW?
Birb Sun 11:51

Yes
Sun 11:51

That would be my best guess
bewseer27 Sun 11:51

Birb was wessiah a pup?
Birb Sun 11:51

Not originally but when you lynched him yes
MarcWide Sun 11:51

Bew. Do us a favour and kill The_Player or Ext tonight.
Archy Sun 11:51

Why am I still alive?
Sun 11:52

If I was even remotely useful I'd be dead by now
Sun 11:52

My existence is a lie~~~~~
Birb Sun 11:52

Archy: I am surprised by that and the fact that I'm also still alive
bewseer27 Sun 11:52

When archy trows a curve ball and now has the heart
Sun 11:52

throwa
Archy Sun 11:52

What heart?
bewseer27 Sun 11:52

throwsss
Birb Sun 11:52

I really hope he does
Archy Sun 11:52

I don't know what you're talking about
Birb Sun 11:52

YOU CAN DO IT MAN
MarcWide Sun 11:52

Heart Of Jeff Bezos
Archy Sun 11:53

MANAME JAFF
Birb Sun 11:53

I would be very proud. A proud birb
Archy Sun 11:53

No u
Sun 11:54

Stop trying to get them to lynch me
Sun 11:54

That'll keep me alive
Sun 11:54

And make me feel more useless
Sun 11:54

*retreats into a hole*
Birb Sun 11:54

You are the last person I want lynched
Sun 11:55

You are the last hope for the heart meme
MarcWide Sun 11:55

Am I second last? :'(
Birb Sun 11:55

Yes
Archy Sun 11:55

The outlaws gonna blight as all!
Sun 11:55

AHHHHHHHHHHh
Birb Sun 11:55

I will take the hit if it's just us three at the end and you both lynch me
MarcWide Sun 11:55

quick boys lynch the outlaws
Moderator Sun 11:55

MarcWide votes to lynch FirstSeerCheck
Birb Sun 11:56

Lol
Sun 11:56

Get em boys
Archy Sun 11:56

Quick quick quick
Moderator Sun 11:56

Birb votes to lynch FirstSeerCheck
Moderator Sun 11:56

Birb votes to lynch MapleSyrupWolf
Birb Sun 11:57

I would love to go for that meme but I can't in good conscience let someone who tried to self smite live
Sun 11:57

I'm off for a bit cya
Archy Sun 11:57

I don't see the logic
Sun 11:57

They want to die
Sun 11:57

You don't like it that they want to die
Sun 11:57

So you help them die
Sun 11:58

:thinking:
Sun 11:58

Fucking it
Moderator Sun 11:58

Archy votes to lynch FirstSeerCheck
MarcWide Sun 11:58

lads in the hood
the_player Sun 11:59

Aww the masons died, that sucks :(
Moderator Sun 11:59

the_player votes to lynch MapleSyrupWolf
the_player Sun 12:00

And *sigh* Mod is still trolling me. I guess there are no more items he wants to reveal to me, as today's morning report was that I deeply regret drinking the milk I found yesterday...
Sun 12:03

Archy: if you remember yesterday I was in favour of lynching MSW despite the letting-themselves-get-smited thing, until we decided that perhaps they could be blighted by the outlaws instead.
bewseer27 Sun 12:03

Why would you drink that?
MarcWide Sun 12:04

Acquire the associated superpowers.
the_player Sun 12:04

It wasn't an actual item, so it's just mod trolling becuase he ran out of things worth putting in the morning reports I think.
bewseer27 Sun 12:04

Projectile vomiting is a role ability now?
the_player Sun 12:05

but maybe I'll be able to vomit over someone tonight
Sun 12:05

I was hoping yesterday that I'd have a moudly bread item to throw around but that didn't happen :(
bewseer27 Sun 12:05

A useless passable item
Sun 12:06

on seer check reveals their alignment followed by : 'also smells a bit funky'
Sun 12:06

Blocks BH checks
the_player Sun 12:08

that makes it useful though!
MarcWide Sun 12:08

Tramp role ripoff. #plagiarism
the_player Sun 12:58

So, I've been thinking. (I know, how weird!) Neutrals and win conditions. When the game decides winners, it doesn't normally exclude neutrals from the "not the current faction" check when doing parity.
Sun 12:58

eg if there is a Werewolf, Villager, Tanner (arc-013) or Lycan, Shapeshifter, EssenceThief (des-093) - The game doesn't end with a wolf win.
Sun 12:58

A whole faction of them (Outlaws) seems to complicate this a lot, a lone-evil (eg an OmegaWolf, or Birb here) could never win with outlaws around because they'd always out-number them.
Archy Sun 12:58

Wait
Sun 12:59

That was a lot of words in like five seconds
the_player Sun 12:59

yes. I like to think about what I say before I say it
Sun 13:00

I wrote it in notepad, then pasted it line by line.
Sun 13:01

My point is, if the outlaws truely are neutral - the only faction they can really win with at this time is village.
Sun 13:01

But, there's also a high chance that they are infact not neutral.
Sun 13:01

(Thus the seer check of "Outlaws" not "Neutral")
Birb Sun 13:02

I think I agree
the_player Sun 13:03

Also - the games I referenced above, see the last day on each of them to show my thinking: https://archive.werewolv.es/#game=arc-013&phase=Day5 and https://archive.werewolv.es/#game=des-093&phase=Day4 - The game didn't end each time, it played out the day
Sun 13:04

(And there are loads of examples of final-threes with tanners around)
Archy Sun 13:04

So you're saying
Sun 13:04

That for evils to win
Sun 13:04

They have to kill the outlaws to achieve parity
Sun 13:05

Hence the outlaws naturally won't want to align with evils
the_player Sun 13:05

Unless there are more of them than the outlaws.
Archy Sun 13:05

Which could be true in the case of a vamp
the_player Sun 13:05

I'm saying they need parity over the whole village, including the outlaws, so 1 vamp, 1 village, 2 outlaws is not a vamp win, becuase there is no parity.
Sun 13:06

it would need 3 vamps, 1 village, 2 outlaws to be a parity win
MarcWide Sun 13:06

I believe Monky made this point a while ago.
Archy Sun 13:07

I think it's more significant now that we know what kind of evils there are
the_player Sun 13:07

Basically though what I'm saying is either outlaws are evil, or they can only really expect to win with village.
MarcWide Sun 13:08

And which of those two do you lean towards?
Birb Sun 13:09

They can still win in that scenario
Sun 13:09

They have the items but vamps still win
bewseer27 Sun 13:09

the_player could you list all the items you have found?
Sun 13:09

Just to match them up
the_player Sun 13:09

MarcWide: I'm unsure right now
Sun 13:10

Birb: I'm assuming they still need 1 person alive to win, so for a single-team evil, they'd need to end up with 1 of them and 1 of the evil.
Sun 13:10

bewseer27: sure, one moment
FirstSeerCheck Sun 13:11

Only here briefly, but personally I think we outlaws are neutral as it means we can't end the game on our own.
Sun 13:11

Maybe that's what you've kinda said above.
Sun 13:12

But if Outlaws are an independent faction then theoretically the game would end as soon as we got over half of the items. Making us neutral means that the game will progress to it's natural end and then we either win or we don't depending on whether we achieved our item goal.
Archy Sun 13:13

I don't think that was his point
Sun 13:14

His point was, that lets say there were one omegawolf, one coven, one vamp, two outlaws and rest village
the_player Sun 13:14

Several Crossbows and Plates of Armour, Ankh of Retribution, Veil of Shadows, Hell Helm, Abyssal Armour, Demonic Eye, Gauntlets of Blight, Heart of Hades,
Sun 13:14

Arcanum, Heart of Fenrir, Inordinatum, Sanguine Horn, Invisibility cloak, Potion of Vulnerability, Ring of Tenacity, Dream Catchers,
Sun 13:14

Mouldy bread, half-eaten apple, glass of almost-sentient milk that I apparently drank
Archy Sun 13:14

For any evil to win, they would need to kill all village and at least one outlaw to achieve parity
Sun 13:14

But for village to win, no outlaws need to be killed
the_player Sun 13:15

And to be clear, I found that they were missing, I didn't find them, with the exception of the Potion of Vulnerability which I passed away to Masontwo immediately that night
bewseer27 Sun 13:15

Ankh of reincarnation wasn't included?
the_player Sun 13:15

I never saw a report about that
ext Sun 13:15

@Outlaws why didnt you shot Birb last night?
Sun 13:16

*shoot
MarcWide Sun 13:16

Probably because they're diagnosed with The Big Evil ™
bewseer27 Sun 13:17

Because we were scared of being the next target for a lynch after yesterday
Sun 13:17

And to give time to reclaim items from destroy
Archy Sun 13:18

Thats fair
the_player Sun 13:18

Now that they are dead, are you able to tell us what the mason role you saw was?
Sun 13:19

@outlaws
FirstSeerCheck Sun 13:21

I could.
Sun 13:22

Let me consider it for a bit. I can't immediately think of any reason not to, but I don't want to be too hasty.
ext Sun 13:23

I also find it amusing, when someone who hasn't do anything for the village, like Marc/Archy, felt that they can Outlaws to shoot me ay night based on no fking concrete evidence that I has gone bad
Sun 13:24

pure curiosity, aint u guys have no shame?
MarcWide Sun 13:24

that's the meme
Sun 13:24

(do it Bew do it)
Archy Sun 13:25

Shame is not my middle name
Sun 13:25

I feel none of it
MarcWide Sun 13:25

ShameMcC
Archy Sun 13:25

He's dead.
ext Sun 13:25

I have done tons for this village, what did you guys do? I'm all ears, mates :)
MarcWide Sun 13:25

Meme on you so you antagonise us.
Sun 13:26

Don't worry, I trust you. :p
Archy Sun 13:26

Don't worry, I don't
FirstSeerCheck Sun 13:31

Okay, I guess there's no harm in it, since all the masons are now ded.
Sun 13:31

dead*
Birb Sun 13:31

Ext hasn't done that much for village lol
FirstSeerCheck Sun 13:31

Optimus was the seer; NewFaction was an unknown - I'm guessing ML, but that could have been boon.
Archy Sun 13:31

Hmm
FirstSeerCheck Sun 13:31

And I'm fairly certain I know what the check they withheld yesterday was.
Archy Sun 13:31

I wish they had told us their check
Sun 13:32

Please do tell
the_player Sun 13:32

damnit, I wish they'd told us the check
Birb Sun 13:32

Yeah that would have been good
Archy Sun 13:33

(boon pops up from GY tmr)
Sun 13:33

I can only dream he was a messiah
Sun 13:33

Boon come backkkkkm
FirstSeerCheck Sun 13:33

Well, we were eavesdropping on NewFaction last night, and they never said it outright from what I can tell.
Archy Sun 13:34

:(
FirstSeerCheck Sun 13:34

However, they did discuss who they thought are bad and who they thought are good, and there was a distinct lack of one name ever touted as being evil.
Sun 13:35

For full disclosure, they were still a bit suspicious of the Outlaws primarily for the fact that we've lost so few members.
Sun 13:36

NewFaction gave a list - presumably in response to a question from Optimus - with myself and MapleSyrupWolf at positions one and two respectively.
Sun 13:36

I don't know if that was a suspicion list or maybe just people to check next... but *shrugs*.
Sun 13:37

Also, apparently life without Boon is so less meaningful, so I hope you guys have re-found your meaning now.
ext Sun 13:37

it's their favorite lynching order, I'm pretty sure it is xD
FirstSeerCheck Sun 13:37

They also speculated that Marc and the_player could be together.
Sun 13:37

specifically, "Curator". Their quotes, not mine.
Sun 13:39

They also lamented not having checked Birb in hindsight.
Archy Sun 13:40

Distinct lack of one name <---
MarcWide Sun 13:40

Other Marc or me Marc being with the Curator?
FirstSeerCheck Sun 13:40

Other Marc.
Sun 13:41

Marc at-time-of-writing.
Archy Sun 13:41

That can't be their check tho
FirstSeerCheck Sun 13:41

*at-time-of-their-writing-i.e-some-time-during-the-night.
Sun 13:42

Correct, Archy.
the_player Sun 13:42

The only person I was ever in a night chat with was Masontwo, I have no connection to (now-)Thanwwes. As much as I would have liked a thief in our night chat.
ext Sun 13:42

You mean in an evil faction, or together as in Treasury?
FirstSeerCheck Sun 13:42

*shrugs*
Sun 13:43

They literally just said (paraphrasing): What do you think about the "curator". Do you think he's with Marc.
Sun 13:44

Also, remember I only got one side of a conversation. So it's possible Optimus could have interjected between those two sentences.
ext Sun 13:45

believe the_player is lit
FirstSeerCheck Sun 13:45

For example: <NewFaction> What do you think about the "curator"? <Optimus> He's awesome. I completely trust him. Unlike Birb. He's probably not the last coven! <NewFaction> Do you think he's with Marc?
ext Sun 13:45

so what's their seer's check?
the_player Sun 13:45

Yeah, I realise that, thansk
FirstSeerCheck Sun 13:45

I _assume_ it is Thanwwes-now-Marc as village.
Archy Sun 13:45

That's weirdly vague
MarcWide Sun 13:46

Yay.
ext Sun 13:46

same check as mine then, no surprise here
Sun 13:46

but Than can steal somehow, so there's a chance he has a Veil
Sun 13:47

I still dont buy his role's winning condition, sounds very unfair
the_player Sun 13:47

Especially if the important things end up in the ground.
Sun 13:48

and he can't steal from the dead
MarcWide Sun 13:48

Fairness is a matter of perspective.
ext Sun 13:48

yeah
Archy Sun 13:48

Ext, you're always telling us not to trust your sees, and that you vote because outlaws gave you a armour, not for the good of the village, which is why I suspect you
Sun 13:49

I wonder if MSW will come on today
MarcWide Sun 13:49

Probably not.
ext Sun 13:49

yes, if you have the ability to steal from the dead as well as the alive, then I will believe your winning condition morr
the_player Sun 13:50

MarcWide: Have you met your win condition then now?
MarcWide Sun 13:50

I have my ways and my plans.
ext Sun 13:50

you can do nothing if one of the ancient items gets lost in GY
MarcWide Sun 13:50

Not yet.
Archy Sun 13:51

Do you win on your own if you do? Or do you have to lynch all evil doers like the rest of us?
ext Sun 13:51

@Archy I'm a man of dignity, when I promise something, I keep it
MarcWide Sun 13:51

Need to win with the village.
the_player Sun 13:51

The only ancient item we were aware of was the disruptor thing right?
Archy Sun 13:51

This is not a game of dignity tho
ext Sun 13:51

unlike, ehem, Birb..
Archy Sun 13:51

That's fair, Marc
the_player Sun 13:51

I respect ext's position of sticking to the promise he made.
Archy Sun 13:51

I don't .
ext Sun 13:51

but he confessed evil, so it's ok haha
Archy Sun 13:52

We're all very jolly today
Sun 13:52

It's weird
ext Sun 13:52

thx The_player, I believe you and ogOpti are lit
MarcWide Sun 13:52

Would you like some ice cream?
Archy Sun 13:52

Might be the good weather
MarcWide Sun 13:55

In my experience the endgame is either majorly salty or good banter. This looks like it'll be the latter.
Archy Sun 13:55

I've never seen good banter
Sun 13:55

This is all but an illusion
Sun 13:55

Dieeeeeee
MarcWide Sun 13:55

Yet you have seen me, and I am good banter.
Archy Sun 13:56

Lies
Sun 13:56

Birb is better
MarcWide Sun 13:56

>:(
Archy Sun 13:56

>:D
Sun 13:57

*cue GY villager screaming, "LYNCH HIM YOU IDIOTS"*
Sun 13:57

I can't wait till I turn into OmegaArchy
Sun 13:57

I'll kill you all mwahahahaha
Birb Sun 14:00

I love ext's bogus logic. If the vamp basment has 3 members they win parity tomorrow if you don't lynch one of them
Archy Sun 14:01

^
Birb Sun 14:01

Ext: Can you at least pretend to be good
Archy Sun 14:01

And the salt is back!
Birb Sun 14:01

You don't even believe your own village checks
Archy Sun 14:01

We are all goodies no more
Birb Sun 14:01

Lol
ext Sun 14:02

I love the "vamp's basement" bogus, none has found any trace of vamp or fam, but suddenly we have 3. Nice!
Archy Sun 14:02

Nice!
Birb Sun 14:02

The mortcian and the BH found a vamp
Sun 14:02

Tanool found a vampire master
MarcWide Sun 14:02

You say that, Birb, but you aren't voting for those that you purport to be Fams anyway.
Birb Sun 14:02

And the mortician showed that a vamp killed someone
ext Sun 14:02

could you believe your own village's check when there Items exist to counter exactly that in the game?
Birb Sun 14:02

So tell me again there's no evidence for vamps
Archy Sun 14:03

*sips popcorn*
ext Sun 14:03

only a fool will blindly believe his check
Birb Sun 14:03

LOL
Sun 14:03

What's the point of you then
Sun 14:03

I'm voting for MSW
Sun 14:03

Marc
MarcWide Sun 14:03

It's the best indicator there is, even if not perfect.
Birb Sun 14:03

Who I believe to be a fam
MarcWide Sun 14:03

So you are.
Archy Sun 14:03

(there's the full caps LOL when people get mad)
MarcWide Sun 14:04

I find it unlikely that in this hypothetical, they would be the VM.
Archy Sun 14:04

Fite fite fite!
ext Sun 14:04

ever heard of the veil of shadow? or are we playing different games here?
MarcWide Sun 14:04

WWE BRAWL
Archy Sun 14:04

(ooh I'm ext I find village uwu but he might have a veil oh so don't trust it and don't lynch me if my check is false uwu)
Birb Sun 14:04

So basically you're telling me that you haven't contributed to the village because all of your checks have been ruined by items
the_player Sun 14:05

Birb: why a fam not the actual vamp?
Birb Sun 14:05

Lol Archy
Sun 14:05

I don't know either way, I just think he's vamp basement fo sho
ext Sun 14:05

no, my coven and wolves check are as lit as the sun, I believe them completely
Birb Sun 14:05

You should check me
ext Sun 14:05

stop putting words in my mouth, that's a dick movr
Archy Sun 14:05

But you haven't given non-village checks since mason seer last checked you
Birb Sun 14:05

Yup
Archy Sun 14:06

So we have no way of determine if you've been recruited or not
Sun 14:06

Especially if we can't rely on your checks since you fear a veil for all of them
MarcWide Sun 14:06

Birb and Archy finna lynch Ext, big drama.
Archy Sun 14:06

No u
Birb Sun 14:06

Lol
Sun 14:06

I want msw
Sun 14:06

I'm interested to see what ext "checks" tomorrow
Sun 14:07

Oh looks like I checked myself and I'm a MASON?
Sun 14:08

:O
Archy Sun 14:08

Everyone's gone
Sun 14:08

You're the only one left
Sun 14:09

We're all corpses
bewseer27 Sun 14:09

The puppets came off the strings
Birb Sun 14:09

Did I mention that I am the Zombie Hunter?
MarcWide Sun 14:12

hey bew r u gonna kill ext lul
Sun 14:12

better do it you win instantly he's reverse tanner
Archy Sun 14:12

This is bullying!
MarcWide Sun 14:13

I AM A BULLY
Archy Sun 14:13

I shall not have any of this in my house!
Sun 14:13

Timeout, you!
Sun 14:13

*MarcWeide punches Archy*
MarcWide Sun 14:13

:(
Archy Sun 14:13

*Archy dies*
Sun 14:13

Ok, I'm bored
MarcWide Sun 14:13

I forgot to move my vote back.
Moderator Sun 14:13

MarcWide votes to lynch MapleSyrupWolf
Archy Sun 14:14

No one lynch outlaw?
Birb Sun 14:14

Y'all need to chill the FUCK OUT
MarcWide Sun 14:14

memes over
Archy Sun 14:14

Outlaw no good lynch?
Birb Sun 14:14

You should shoot em
Archy Sun 14:14

(they are night immune at this point)
MarcWide Sun 14:14

I'd be up for it but a MSW lynch is also fine.
Archy Sun 14:14

(can't shoot them)
Sun 14:15

Fuck it
Moderator Sun 14:15

Archy votes to lynch MapleSyrupWolf
Birb Sun 14:16

Iwish I was night immune
MarcWide Sun 14:16

You just gotta believe.
Archy Sun 15:09

Silence for ten minutes and I feel empty
bewseer27 Sun 15:19

Same
the_player Sun 15:19

I'm concerned about MSW not appearing today. Seems almost unlikely that they are our 2-deaths-a-night evil if they don't even bother to turn up at all :/
bewseer27 Sun 15:19

or they just lurk
Sun 15:20

the_player why do you think your list stopped listing items? do you think mod got bored?
MarcWide Sun 15:20

That's why I've been arguing that it is highly unlikely they are the VM.
the_player Sun 15:23

bewseer27: I think he only plans so far ahead, and then it got to a point where he just started having fun with it as the game got closer to the end, especially given that people have been fairly open with their items
Sun 15:23

and he likes to troll
Sun 15:23

I hope my sentient milk gives me super powers.
Sun 15:23

*looks at mod*
bewseer27 Sun 15:24

becomes the chosenone
Archy Sun 15:29

Omega_player
MarcWide Sun 15:32

Archy, want to do an FSC meme lynch? :p
ext Sun 15:39

Archy Sun 14:05 But you haven't given non-village checks since mason seer last checked you
Sun 15:39

are you high, mate?
Sun 15:40

Mason checked me N7. Since then I have outed Milit the wolf, Bloodhound the puppet, Bignews the coven... all evil and non-village checks
Sun 15:40

get your fact straight before accusing someone, dude
Sun 15:41

or if game gets too hard for you, better take a break, it helps ;)
Birb Sun 15:45

Hey Marc: are you the vamp?
MarcWide Sun 15:46

I can be anything you want me to be, baby, but not that.
Birb Sun 15:46

:(
ext Sun 15:48

about MSW, guy's deserved to be lynched, but I think you are wasting it
MarcWide Sun 15:48

So you think someone else should be lynched?
ext Sun 15:48

if he's really an evil with a veil, he would have pretended to prot me somewhere in his prot list
MarcWide Sun 15:49

It's another "too dumb or too clever" thing.
ext Sun 15:49

since it's natural thing to do, and easiest way to buy trust
Sun 15:49

but he didn't, so I guess he's not evil
Sun 15:50

@Marc how about Birb?
Sun 15:50

known evil
Sun 15:50

or even Outlaws if you want
MarcWide Sun 15:50

Known evil yes, source of the killing most likely not.
Moderator Sun 15:50

MarcWide votes to lynch FirstSeerCheck
ext Sun 15:50

I won't vote him, but I believe they could be evil
MarcWide Sun 15:51

I find it increasingly likely that the Outlaws are wittholding something with deaths that are less and less explainable.
ext Sun 15:52

I think Outlaws' real winning condition is: Either holding more than 50% of items at the end, OR getting rid of all other factions
MarcWide Sun 15:53

And at this point they would very likely be angling for the latter.
ext Sun 15:53

they probably genuinely tried to get the items, but now when it becomes impossible, they turn to the plan B
MarcWide Sun 15:54

I can get behind that theory.
Sun 15:54

I'll be leaving my vote on FSC if people decide to switch. If not, MSW still deservedly goes down.
ext Sun 15:55

let's talk about you, MarcThan, what's your plan to win this game if one of the ancient item was 6-feet under already?
MarcWide Sun 15:55

I am under the impression that there aren't exclusively 3 relics.
Sun 15:56

I will admit that my active plan is to grab everything from Bewseer and run.
ext Sun 15:57

you still haven't answered my question
MarcWide Sun 15:57

I believe I have with my first sentence.
ext Sun 15:58

I don't get what you meant, care to be more patient?
MarcWide Sun 15:59

I do believe that all of the super-powered items that The_Player has brought up, along with all of the demonic items that the Outlaws possess, count as Ancient Relics.
ext Sun 15:59

and you have to get them all, or just 3?
MarcWide Sun 15:59

Just 3.
Sun 16:00

If it was all of them I'd be well and truly fucked.
ext Sun 16:00

hmm ok, that sounds fairer
MarcWide Sun 16:01

Outlaws and other Thief roles centralise everything in one place so I can find them more easily.
the_player Sun 16:06

So why don't you just ask the outlaws nicely to give you how ever many you still need, see if they comply? Given my list, and a few other things we've learned about, they should know if they are at 50% or not.
MarcWide Sun 16:06

outlaws gib things pls
Archy Sun 16:07

Well, I guess I phrased that incorrectly
ext Sun 16:08

@theplayer their interests are conflict, they will never complied, especially with big items like Heart or Eye..
Archy Sun 16:08

The mason beholder confirmed you up to N9
Sun 16:10

After N9, your checks were N10 MSW village, then N11 Optimus/ one of the masons village?, N12 Thanwwes village
Sun 16:10

If you are a fam now, you would have been fammed from N9 onwards
Sun 16:11

That's what I meant, I apologise as I was unclear
the_player Sun 16:13

ext: depends, he only needs 3, if they have 50% + 5 or so, they can spare 3.
Archy Sun 16:13

I doubt they would give stuff like the heart or the eye away
the_player Sun 16:14

Depends how village aligned they are.
Archy Sun 16:14

If they would be willing to give it to Than, they would have given it to the village earlier
MarcWide Sun 16:16

If it includes items in the grave, which it almost certainly does, they might not have reached 50%.
Sun 16:16

Depends on how many were at the start of the game.
the_player Sun 16:16

The concern of course is still this 50% thing, which still feels like just an excuse to end up with items. Which is also still quite odd to me given the existance of Chiaroscuro and their ability to just spawn new ones.
ext Sun 16:17

@Archy, you should listen to yourself dude, clearly you are trying too hard to make me look sus
MarcWide Sun 16:18

Whether they'd be willing to give relics to me if they feel they can't reach their goal depends quite particularly on whether or not the alternative win condition ext suggested exists. Naturally we can't know for sure.
ext Sun 16:18

1. You think VM still has recruitment left after N10?
Sun 16:18

2. Those were OPTIMUM checks, I wonder who would you check the last 2 nights as seer, if not them
Sun 16:19

*OPTIMAL
MarcWide Sun 16:20

*OPTIMUS
ext Sun 16:20

already dead
MarcWide Sun 16:21

I was making a joke. :p
ext Sun 16:21

so did I xD
MarcWide Sun 16:21

heck ive been smeckledorfed
Sun 16:22

Hey GY follow me on Twitter @kanyewest
ext Sun 16:27

hey Marc and theplayer, I trust you guys, who do you think I should check tonight?
MarcWide Sun 16:28

Probably Archy or Bewseer. I find those two the most likely to have been holding the Heart of Fenrir if it didn't actually go to the grave.
Sun 16:28

Maybe current-Thanwwes.
the_player Sun 16:30

well, I was afflicted with lycanthropy, so no point checking me. MSW and Marc have already been checked, Birb is confessed, FSC and Bew are both outlaws so would probably show as outlaws. that leaves archy and now-Thanwwes
Sun 16:31

Although, something that has occured to me... FSC seems to be the one that has been doing the outlawy things recently (talking about using the hell helm last night, the potion of clarity on Optimus etc)
Sun 16:32

What if they decided to use the heart. Bew becomes an omega, outlaws+omega win together (due to neutral outlaws)
MarcWide Sun 16:32

As if he's taken over the representative position, yeah.
the_player Sun 16:32

that would be interesting.
MarcWide Sun 16:32

It's worth checking on.
the_player Sun 16:34

I'm actually thinking that's more and more likely.
ext Sun 16:37

I think it's a bit far-fetched. Night chat is too important to give up
MarcWide Sun 16:37

Maybe see how the kills turn out tonight.
Sun 16:38

Plausible theory, at least.
ext Sun 16:38

anyway, almost forgot this, a strange thing happened to me D12
MarcWide Sun 16:38

A strange thing?
ext Sun 16:39

at night-end, I received an announcement
Sun 16:39

basically, it said that I had a strange dream and it somehow has shaken my faith in democracy
MarcWide Sun 16:40

The Harpy lives, then?
ext Sun 16:40

ah, it's harpy's power?
MarcWide Sun 16:40

Yes.
Sun 16:40

That's what you get if you are silenced or shrouded.
ext Sun 16:41

ok, no big deal then
the_player Sun 16:41

Well, how about this then, For the past 2 nights in a row, I've shot bewseer with a crossbow (I have no more crossbows, I've used them all now), and he's not once mentioned the loss of armour/protection, which seems like something he might moan about a bit more.
MarcWide Sun 16:41

That... Seems particularly more major.
Moderator Sun 16:41

the_player votes to lynch bewseer27
ext Sun 16:42

hmm, interesting
MarcWide Sun 16:42

I'm thinking with this that we have 1 OW, and 2 Coven (Birb and current-Thanwwes, who was revived by Kirkstein who I believe was probably a Witch) remaining.
Moderator Sun 16:42

MarcWide votes to lynch bewseer27
ext Sun 16:42

where did you get those crossbows from tho?
MarcWide Sun 16:43

Good question.
the_player Sun 16:43

Masontwo started with 2, they gave me one
Sun 16:44

Becuase they didn't want to be the one to shoot bewseer and I did. Then I had a change of heart to helf onto it.
Archy Sun 16:44

They did mention losing a lot of prot items previously
Sun 16:45

I'm not for defending them but they did cover losing a lot of armour a few times yesterday
the_player Sun 16:46

And then one morning my morning report wasn't actually what I said to the village - the day I said I was told nothing useful "information about what the Heart of Fenrir does." - actually that morning I "found" a left-over crossbow.
Sun 16:46

bewseer27 being a thief kinda made me not want to share that I had 2 crossbows.
Sun 16:46

I did mention yesterday wanting to lynch them to stop them being someone who would steal from the village.
MarcWide Sun 16:47

You rightfully wanted to conceal that killing power.
ext Sun 16:47

fine enough, why do you want to kill bew that bad?
the_player Sun 16:48

Part of my role says there are evils working against the village to steal the demonic items. I think that's the outlaws.
Archy Sun 16:49

You could have mentioned that earlier like when I revealed about the outlaws having all the demonic items instead of today when the vamps might win if we don't lynch them tonight
ext Sun 16:49

is there any other item that gives night immunity, other than the Heart of Fenrir?
MarcWide Sun 16:49

If there even are Vamps.
the_player Sun 16:49

We've known they've had all of those items for a few days now.
MarcWide Sun 16:49

An Omegawolf would explain the deaths in a different way.
ext Sun 16:55

to be fair, bew did complain about losing a lot of protection items
Sun 16:56

also, I don't understand how Outlaws + Omega can win together
the_player Sun 16:57

If they truely are neutral, then the OW just doesn't kill them.
Sun 16:58

It's just a theory anyway
MarcWide Sun 16:58

@Bewseer hey if ur omegawolf kill firstseercheck do it you'll win instantly he's reverse tanner
Sun 16:59

A strangely plausible theory, such that it will serve us very well if we can't figure out what to do tomorrow or afterwards.
ext Sun 17:00

If Outlaws's objective is just to survive till the end, I don't think they need to turn to Omega
Sun 17:01

if Outlaws's objective is to kill every other factions, then the one who turns into Omega can't win
the_player Sun 17:01

It's a way of ensuring they have kill power and longevity, if prot items only need to stack on 1 person, and the other is immune by way of being an omega wolf
Sun 17:01

or, alternatively, maybe it was a mistake.
Sun 17:01

had the heart, wolf died, omega.
Sun 17:02

The theory might not be sound, I'm just saying what I thought based on what I've seen
Moderator Sun 17:03

MarcWide votes to lynch MapleSyrupWolf
MarcWide Sun 17:03

Going to switch back for the timebeing.
Sun 17:03

Worth considering tomorrow.
Moderator Sun 17:04

the_player votes to lynch MapleSyrupWolf
Archy Sun 17:32

I don't know
Thanwwes Sun 18:47

I'm sorry. I was sure I was going to die.
Sun 18:48

Yes, it is true. I was Marc
the_player Sun 18:58

Done any tracking?
Thanwwes Sun 19:24

I have, but it won't show red until tonight, which is when I expect the Mark on Thanwwes to move to MarcWide.
Sun 19:25

I just finished reading and I have a few questions (from not keeping up in GY) that I'd like you to help me with.
Sun 19:25

Question 1: does crossbow go through protector prot?
Sun 19:26

Question 2: What is this about MSW trying to get himself smited?
Sun 19:26

Question 3 - more of an observation really: Note that mortician didn't find proof of vamp. In GY he said that thing about the blood draining that happened to me, but he said that he never said that it meant that I was killed by a vamp. He didn't know.
Sun 19:27

^He was very vocal about the fact that he didn't mean that I was neccessarily killed by a vamp, only that I was drained of blood and then a lot of us just assumed that I was killed by a vamp.
Sun 19:28

In GY I was told by TheLoudOne that he fam militia shot me the second time I died.
Moderator Sun 19:28

Thanwwes votes to lynch MapleSyrupWolf
Thanwwes Sun 19:29

^Since I haven't kept up I trust your decision on MSW.
the_player Sun 19:29

1) No Idea 2) He said yesterday he wouldn't vote to allow himself to be smited because he hadn't voted the previous day (Mod forced a vote to prevent that abuse of the system)
Sun 19:29

3) interesting
Thanwwes Sun 19:30

And my point yesterday about OW working with Outlaws could also be true if EXT has turned OW as someone suggested earlier today.
Sun 19:31

^No, not ext - I mean Bewseer
Sun 19:31

Sorry about that
Sun 19:32

I have time to look back in GY chat now, so if you have any player in particular whose thoughts you'd like, let me know and I'll have a look.
Sun 19:37

So Redeployed asked TheLoudOne (suspected fam in body) if his master killed me N2, TLO replied maybe / maybe not and that it would be a spoiler to tell.
Sun 19:39

TLO also said that his master never said anything about The Heart of Fenrir, but that may be because TLO was never actually a vamp but an alpha (someone dug him as I recall) and is just trolling around in GY.
Sun 19:40

I got to become good friends with him, but I never trusted him much though.
Sun 19:41

I now see that Guihmo dug TLO as Alpha which is why he was a suspected fam in GY.
Sun 19:45

Reading back I actually don't believe that TLO was a vamp like he said in GY.. I think he actually was an Alpha and just continued trolling in GY.
Sun 19:45

Is no one here?
the_player Sun 19:47

I'm here still
Sun 19:47

I'm not convinced vampires are in this game
Sun 19:48

I'm more and more convinced it's village vs wolves vs coven vs outlaws
Thanwwes Sun 19:50

Say a vamp only has one familiar left when he's lynched. Is the familiar then night immune the following night to ensure the resurrection of the vamp? Or is it possible that the last familiar is killed on the night after the VM's lynch and thus no resurrection for vamp?
Sun 19:52

On D6 TLO was sad that the lynch went towards CakeWolfy (interrogator) because of his "master plan". At that point his story was that Immortl was his fam outing him as wolf as a decoy or smth. Later his story changed...
Sun 19:54

Ugh. I'm now 99 sure he was an alpha trying to shift the focus from wolves to a vamp to help his wolf buddys.
Sun 19:54

But if there are no vamps, what kill would've drained me of blood?
Sun 19:57

Cake said on D7 that DelToro lied about digging TLO as alpha. Now I'm back to thinking he could've been vamp. TLO said straight after that he thought maybe Cake could've been another vamp, because Cake when he died said he wouldn't return until the game ended but he did return saying that they were telling lies about him.
the_player Sun 20:01

I think it's possible for a fam to be killed, they are only immune the night they are recruited
Thanwwes Sun 20:03

Unless someone says they've tried to continuosly failed to kill someone, I'm going to assume that there's no vamp because it's too much of a mess for me.
Sun 20:04

"Bandit" is just a regular thief part of the outlaws, no?
the_player Sun 20:04

yes
Thanwwes Sun 20:04

Was Bew always part of the Outlaws or was he recruited?
the_player Sun 20:04

always
Sun 20:04

<Thanwwes> Unless someone says they've tried to continuosly failed to kill someone << I failed to kill bewseer27 2 nights in a row if that counts.
Thanwwes Sun 20:05

That counts for me, but I had forgotten it for a moment. Has he replied to that accusation?
the_player Sun 20:05

nope
bewseer27 Sun 20:05

the_player what does your role say about an evil?
Thanwwes Sun 20:06

Speaking of the devil
bewseer27 Sun 20:06

I'm here
Sun 20:06

not the devil though
Thanwwes Sun 20:06

So what is your reason for not dying?
bewseer27 Sun 20:07

Armour, one that doesn't break
the_player Sun 20:07

My role says (paraphrased) "Many of the items are powerful and should not fall into evil hands. There are village enemies aware of and searching for the demonic relics, but they aren't sure how many there are or what they do"
Thanwwes Sun 20:07

An armour that doesn't break...... is there a downside to that item or is it a win/win item?
bewseer27 Sun 20:07

enemies searching for denomic relics?
the_player Sun 20:07

Unbreakable Armour seems a bit overpowered.
Sun 20:07

considering all other armour breaks
Thanwwes Sun 20:08

^
the_player Sun 20:08

bewseer27: that's what it says
bewseer27 Sun 20:08

I wish we had the beep boop alliance
the_player Sun 20:08

Is that the abyssal armour then?
bewseer27 Sun 20:08

Yes
Sun 20:09

Does it specifically say an evil is searching for demonic relics?
the_player Sun 20:09

"There are village enemies aware of and searching for the demonic relics, but they aren't sure how many there are or what they do"
Sun 20:10

(minor wording changes because I wrote it out rather than copy/pasting, but that's basically what it says)
Sun 20:10

and "Many of the items are powerful and should not fall into evil hands."
Thanwwes Sun 20:11

Was today the first time you mentioned the part about evils looking for demonic relics?
the_player Sun 20:13

nope
Thanwwes Sun 20:14

Hmmmm... I'm still convinced outlaws are evil more than I'm convinced that MSW is evil. I'm also not certain about the "relic hunter"
the_player Sun 20:14

I mentioned it the day I came out (Search "here's the kicker") and the day the relic hunter was outed (Search "WWM! I want to know who the relic hunter is")
Thanwwes Sun 20:15

Do you remember what day this was?
the_player Sun 20:15

(Day 8 + 9 respectively)
Sun 20:16

bewseer27: I'm sorry about the beep boop alliance, but lots of things to me seem to point towards you being evil not neutral :(
Sun 20:17

But at least right now you're getting to live another night, maybe we can try again tomorrow to change my mind
Thanwwes Sun 20:18

Thanks Player, I've now looked at both. So Relic hunter was confirmed by Masons, could still be an evil though, right? Did he claim to be neutral or village faction?
the_player Sun 20:18

village
Thanwwes Sun 20:19

How does one know if an item is ancient or not?
the_player Sun 20:20

(which puts him at odds with the outlaws)
Sun 20:20

Someone described having an "ancient orb of disruption" - but no one else claimed to have somthing ancient
Sun 20:20

That someone (TK241) was lynched for being a puppetmaster though
Sun 20:21

I don't think Birb confirmed if they were or weren't the PM
Sun 20:22

Though birb did claim that they started with 4 puppets, and TK241 did control a puppet as proof of them having "puppet strings"
Sun 20:22

so they probably were PM
Sun 20:22

which means the orb was possibly a lie (shrug)
Thanwwes Sun 20:23

Well.. Five people did die the morning after the lynch of TK, so him being PM isn't far fetched.
the_player Sun 20:23

Though it supposedly role blocked and stole from people who visited and he claimed that meant Monky visited him one day (and Monky confirmed the visit) so I dunno on that one
Sun 20:23

(Monky confirmed the visit and the block/theft)
Sun 20:23

but then the aura seer (TruthVagina) was able to visit without being blocked
Sun 20:23

so... seems fishy
Sun 20:24

Anyway, if I die tonight at least lynch an outlaw tomorrow to prevent them being close to parity.
Thanwwes Sun 20:24

Perhaps TK could've given the orb to someone else? What was the order of these events?
the_player Sun 20:24

I can't remember exactly
Thanwwes Sun 20:24

Assuming Marc has the ancient orb thing, he's now also night immune I assume?
bewseer27 Sun 20:25

If outlaws and coven die tonight who would you lynch?
Thanwwes Sun 20:25

So if he's an evil the only way to get rid of him is by lynch
Sun 20:25

?
the_player Sun 20:26

bewseer27: I don't know.
Thanwwes Sun 20:26

@Bew, probably Marc or Arch
Sun 20:26

Marc because I'm not so sure he's village and Arch because I still suspect him of being OW
the_player Sun 20:29

I'm also a bit concerned that Kirkstein was actually coven and that his revives were both coven, but less-so than other things
Thanwwes Sun 20:31

I don't those that are night immune. To me it screams evil. So today I'd actually rather lynch Bew (for not being killed twice) or Marc for probably being in possesion of the blocking orb.
Sun 20:32

The rest of us are fair kill for everyone.
the_player Sun 20:32

I'd be all in favour of lynching bew, but probably don't have time now (shrug)
bewseer27 Sun 20:33

:(
Moderator Sun 20:33

Thanwwes votes to lynch bewseer27
bewseer27 Sun 20:33

I oppose
Thanwwes Sun 20:33

I'll do my part
the_player Sun 20:33

needs 4 of us to move
Thanwwes Sun 20:33

Lynch on maple will probably go through either way.
Moderator Sun 20:33

the_player votes to lynch bewseer27
the_player Sun 20:33

even if outlaws are neutral, I'd feel happier with only 1 of them around (shrug)
bewseer27 Sun 20:34

The beep boop alliance lies broken
Thanwwes Sun 20:34

Sorry Bew. Tomorrow I'll push for a lynch on Marc solely based on the fact that he's night immune
the_player Sun 20:35

Thanwwes: I don't think there is any evidence of him being night immune, as far as I know TK241 took the orb to his grave and he can't steal from the dead
bewseer27 Sun 20:35

Fear lead rise to its fall, when I in my heart truely belong to village
the_player Sun 20:36

bewseer27: You can still be village with the rest of the village.
bewseer27 Sun 20:36

I would love to be, I have wanted to be all game
the_player Sun 20:37

Based on the fact I apparently drank almost-sentient milk last night, I'm maybe not the best judge here anyway!
Sun 20:37

*glares at mod*
Moderator Sun 20:41

*flutters eyelashes at the_player*
Thanwwes Sun 20:41

Perhaps the orb only blocked role visits but not item visits? That would explain why he was checked as PM
Sun 20:42

Also. We can't be certain that relic hunter only hunts above ground.
the_player Sun 20:42

aura seer looks with a role not an Item I Think
Sun 20:42

Thanwwes: true.
Thanwwes Sun 20:42

But it was a potion of clarity
Sun 20:42

I just looked back
Birb Sun 20:43

Enemies searching for relics
Sun 20:43

Doesn't that mean the relic hunter is evil?
the_player Sun 20:43

I've not discounted that.
Thanwwes Sun 20:44

Perhaps outlaws are not the issue here, but really the Relic Hunter is the issue.
the_player Sun 20:44

That was the reason I wanted them to be outed the day WWM said they'd found them
Thanwwes Sun 20:44

I mean. If it says relics in your description it points more in the direction of Marc than it does outlaws
Moderator Sun 20:44

Thanwwes votes to lynch MarcWide
Birb Sun 20:45

I don't think enough people are around to change the lynch
Thanwwes Sun 20:45

I've changed my mind. Outlaws can kill maple tonight if they want to, as far as I know he's not night immune and he doesn't seem to care anymore
the_player Sun 20:45

They said they tried last night.
Birb Sun 20:45

So msw is night immune
the_player Sun 20:45

that's one of the reasons for lynching him today
Thanwwes Sun 20:45

I don't really care Birb. If I'm not here tomorrow, you'll all se where I have my biggest sus.
Birb Sun 20:46

Starting to think we have two problems
Thanwwes Sun 20:46

Ohhhhh
Birb Sun 20:46

The vamps and the relic hunter
Thanwwes Sun 20:46

I missed that part
the_player Sun 20:46

So many evils, so little lynching ability :(
Birb Sun 20:46

Aka two deaths
Moderator Sun 20:46

the_player votes to lynch MapleSyrupWolf
the_player Sun 20:46

fuck it, lets hope MSW is actually an evil killer :/
Thanwwes Sun 20:46

I'd be fine with three lynches today
the_player Sun 20:46

only 1 death would be better.
Birb Sun 20:46

Would be great if we had that agitator eh
the_player Sun 20:46

Yeah..
Thanwwes Sun 20:47

Yes Birb, my thought exactly
the_player Sun 20:47

I should have used my second crossbow on someone not bewseer.
Birb Sun 20:47

But I think we have a vamp and this relic hunter is potentially evil if what you say is true player
Sun 20:47

Outlaws are still iffy
Sun 20:47

Too many evils
Sun 20:47

A musical by ext 300
Thanwwes Sun 20:49

I don't belive in vamps anymore. I believe these are the evils in order of danger: Marc (possibly immune and is basically an evil according to Players role), Outlaws (neutral but show as "outlaws" to seer checks), Archy (suspected OW), Birb (confessed evil but no kill power).
Sun 20:50

*Marc (possibly NIGHT immune)
Birb Sun 20:50

I think there's a lot of evil aboot
Sun 20:50

Clears throat**
Thanwwes Sun 20:51

And I believe Bew to be the most dangerous of the outlaws because of his immunity
Birb Sun 20:51

*ALARMS BLARE* EVILS ALERT EVILS ALERT
Thanwwes Sun 20:51

I'll leave this for the surviving lot of you tomorrow.
Birb Sun 20:51

I imagine I won't be here tomorrow so
Sun 20:51

Someone will have to bring the bantz
the_player Sun 20:52

you'll still be here, you're a lingering "known evil" for the village to worry about
Sun 20:52

other evils aren't going to kill you
FirstSeerCheck Sun 20:53

Who is the harpy?
Sun 20:53

And why did Birb lie about being the last coven?
Sun 20:53

(Still catching up)
the_player Sun 20:54

no idea. ext says he got that message D12, but only just mentioned it today
Thanwwes Sun 20:55

I'm not sure he's lying. Harpy could've died on N11
the_player Sun 20:55

indeed
Thanwwes Sun 20:56

Or ext is lying because he's evil and wants focus to shift to coven. But I don't really believe that
Moderator Sun 20:57

bewseer27 votes to lynch MapleSyrupWolf
FirstSeerCheck Sun 20:58

Oh, right. I thought he got it today.
Sun 20:58

That makes more sense.
Sun 20:59

Also you guys think we'd let one of our own turn into an OW? That's crazy. No-one sane would do that.
Moderator Sun 20:59

The hour of dusk approaches...
Lynched Sun 21:00

MapleSyrupWolf was lynched by the village
Moderator Sun 21:19

You...
Sun 21:20

You should have gone for the head
Sun 21:20

https://imgur.com/kkgZU3t.gif
Killed Sun 21:29

bewseer27 was killed during the night
Killed Sun 21:29

Thanwwes was killed during the night
Killed Sun 21:29

Birb was killed during the night
Killed Sun 21:29

Archy was killed during the night
Killed Sun 21:29

ext was killed during the night

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