ext-300 Day 2 | Online Werewolf Anniversary Game

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SpeedGameBot Wed 09:00

Game is ready. Once this game has enough players, the activity check can be completed using $$check in this lobby, and once this passes the game can be started with $$go
ImmortlOne Wed 09:01

lol speedgamebot
Kirkstein Wed 09:01

Lol
Jim85 Wed 09:01

Hahaha!
ImmortlOne Wed 09:01

omg, I'm not ready for this
Kirkstein Wed 09:01

So the insanity starts.
Bugtician Wed 09:01

Some serious roleplaying there speedgamebot
Jim85 Wed 09:02

Agree Bugtician!
Kirkstein Wed 09:02

Roleplaying or the real deal? O.o. Robots are among us.
ImmortlOne Wed 09:02

I'd like to take this opportunity to urge people to vote for the best reason they can find - in a game of this size, a faction of 10 could easily be enough to force a vote on any given day. We must use our votes as well as we can - it's so much more important than in a smaller game.
The_The Wed 09:02

Morning. Hope Santa gave you everything you deserve this Christmas.
tomaTOES Wed 09:02

Opening gambit: I was roleblocked last night!
Kirkstein Wed 09:03

Noted.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:03

Oh dear
Wed 09:03

Okay, good to know tomaTOES
HeLicks Wed 09:03

$$check
SpeedGameBot Wed 09:04

Starting activity check, all players must say something in the next 5 minutes.
Kirkstein Wed 09:04

Tbh. I am not ready for 60 plus player game. I have no idea what to expect regarding the set up.
Wed 09:04

Something.
tomaTOES Wed 09:04

something
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:04

.
HeLicks Wed 09:04

dot.
Bugtician Wed 09:04

oh god what if it's real and he kicks all for non-activity
tomaTOES Wed 09:05

Kinda hoping for a sub-game
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:05

Hahaha
Jim85 Wed 09:05

Like in New Moon?
tomaTOES Wed 09:05

New Moon?
Jim85 Wed 09:05

They got TWO villages there.
Bugtician Wed 09:05

Expansion to millers hollow werewolves
tomaTOES Wed 09:06

Wow it's been a long while since I played millers hollow
The_The Wed 09:06

#piperforever
Jim85 Wed 09:06

Right nexus to each other.
Bugtician Wed 09:06

Does anyone dare type the Go command?
Jim85 Wed 09:06

No
tomaTOES Wed 09:06

Has it been 5 mins?
Bugtician Wed 09:06

not yet no
Birb Wed 09:07

I suggest not voting, what happens if everyone has no votes?
Wed 09:07

I assume no-one dies
The_The Wed 09:07

D2, 50 people die.
SpeedGameBot Wed 09:07

New player joined - activity check will need to be run again.
WaterTrousers Wed 09:07

I feel wet
Jim85 Wed 09:07

Smites incoming.
Kirkstein Wed 09:07

Hm. Not sure it works that way Birb.
Bugtician Wed 09:07

I feel like SpeedGameBot is a real person and they are roleplaying hard
Kirkstein Wed 09:07

We must lynch today it seems.
tomaTOES Wed 09:08

Twice no less
The_The Wed 09:08

There could be roles that will die if there’s a no lynch situation.
Jim85 Wed 09:08

It seems?
Bugtician Wed 09:08

I think any tied votes will die
Wed 09:08

so we must pick a first and second to die
Wed 09:08

then tie the rest?
Wed 09:08

Unless coven get inolved so then we need more stacks
The_The Wed 09:09

Well it’s one way to get around nothing happening on D2
Birb Wed 09:09

I find it interesting that everyone wants to lynch rather than play 60 player chicken
Kirkstein Wed 09:09

Didn't you recieve a mod message?
SpeedGameBot Wed 09:09

Type $$vote+name to vote for the person you want to vote
tomaTOES Wed 09:09

Is coven confirmed?
Bugtician Wed 09:09

I mean I am all for 60 player chicken i just dont think we'd manage to go a whole day with nobody voting
WaterTrousers Wed 09:09

$$vote SpeedGameBot
Bugtician Wed 09:09

No coven is not confirmed, I am just assuming
Wed 09:09

with 60+ players
Kirkstein Wed 09:09

I can do without voting.
The_The Wed 09:09

Additional players at the start of the game so likely but not confirmed.
Moderator Wed 09:10

WaterTrousers votes to lynch SpeedGameBot
Kirkstein Wed 09:10

But the message clearly says lynch two people.
WaterTrousers Wed 09:10

It works!
Boon Wed 09:10

Boon and Bane..
Wed 09:10

Go against Mod
tomaTOES Wed 09:10

Wait... really?
Birb Wed 09:10

The man who casts the first stone must be without sin
Wed 09:10

Are you without sin Water?
Moderator Wed 09:10

Birb votes to lynch WaterTrousers
Boon Wed 09:11

There goes the no-vote
Kirkstein Wed 09:11

Look at the morning message.
Bugtician Wed 09:11

Lasted whole 10 minutes
Birb Wed 09:11

Therefore he must die
Wed 09:11

Water ruined the plan
WaterTrousers Wed 09:11

I am the pants of sincerity
OptimusStein Wed 09:11

oh shit
Kirkstein Wed 09:11

Village will lynch two people. Mob won't respect the no vote.
ImmortlOne Wed 09:11

can you imagine the Mod fury if we no-voted?
Wed 09:11

(opposed to the Mod furry, which I nearly typed, which is TOTALLY different)
Bugtician Wed 09:11

SpeedGameBot would flip his shit
SpeedGameBot Wed 09:12

Type $$imagine to imagine it
Boon Wed 09:12

Mod will flip burger
OptimusStein Wed 09:12

at least lynches can defend themselves though, rather than extra night deaths
Wed 09:12

but here i was hoping for a game lasting a month!!
tomaTOES Wed 09:12

$$imagine
Moderator Wed 09:12

OptimusStein votes to lynch Day2Claim
WaterTrousers Wed 09:13

I think he must claim day 2 tho
SpeedGameBot Wed 09:13

Type $$discuss to start a discussion about who should we lynch today
OptimusStein Wed 09:14

$$discuss
Kirkstein Wed 09:14

$$discuss
OptimusStein Wed 09:14

this is day 2
tomaTOES Wed 09:14

$$discuss
Kirkstein Wed 09:14

Also I love the Destroy944 avatar. Great for all the memes I have in mind.
Wed 09:14

Personal favorite.
tomaTOES Wed 09:14

Testing:
Moderator Wed 09:15

ImmortlOne votes to lynch SpeedGameBot
tomaTOES Wed 09:15

$$Vote ImmortlOne
ImmortlOne Wed 09:15

SGB is Fanty all over again - not letting that happen
Moderator Wed 09:15

SpeedGameBot votes to lynch ImmortlOne
SpeedGameBot Wed 09:16

Successful votes for ImmortalOne
Kirkstein Wed 09:16

I like people who vote without saying a single word.
tomaTOES Wed 09:16

Who did that?
Kirkstein Wed 09:16

I believe SGB is a good framing target for those who are evil. Let's lycnh the immortal one.
Wed 09:17

Lynch*
SpeedGameBot Wed 09:17

SGB likes your idea ��
Moderator Wed 09:17

Kirkstein votes to lynch ImmortlOne
SpeedGameBot Wed 09:18

1 �� for Kirkstein from SpeedGameBot
tomaTOES Wed 09:18

Vote command didn't work for me *sadface*
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:18

Birb Wed 09:07 I suggest not voting, what happens if everyone has no votes? Wed 09:07 I assume no-one dies | I think 2 players will die at random, mostly because that mechanic already exists
Shifted Wed 09:19

I would like to see Day2Claim to claim day 2
Moderator Wed 09:19

Shifted votes to lynch Day2Claim
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:19

haha
Kirkstein Wed 09:19

Shifted.. Are you shifted?
Moderator Wed 09:19

MapleSyrupWolf votes to lynch NightOneDeath
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:19

NightOneDeath did not die N1
Wed 09:20

clearly they must be evil
tomaTOES Wed 09:20

Or a prot picked an obvious target?
Jim85 Wed 09:21

Okay so right now most votes seem based on avatar names, great.
tomaTOES Wed 09:21

An open question to the fiend who blocked me: WHY ME!?
SpeedGameBot Wed 09:21

SpeedGameBot thinks no one tried to kill him becausr he was obvious prot target
Wed 09:22

Type $$like if you like SpeedGameBot's idea
Kirkstein Wed 09:22

I feel inclined to stay online for the whole day just because it seems it is going to be hard work to keep track with all the discussion. Mod's message also tells us that he want's us to discuss the lynch targets rather then having a peacefull D2.
OptimusStein Wed 09:22

names are a start
NightOneDeath Wed 09:22

Hmm. Why am i still alive tho'?
Kirkstein Wed 09:22

If we are going by names why am I still alive?
Birb Wed 09:23

I am voting for Water because he broke the no vote without even saying anything before he did
Jim85 Wed 09:23

Immrtl vote from Kirk has more of a thought out reason behind it?
Kirkstein Wed 09:23

Yes. It does have a thought out reason.
OptimusStein Wed 09:23

I dunno a lot of these memes
Shifted Wed 09:23

wish I could stay on all day, but I can't, must get this head fixed
Kirkstein Wed 09:23

He voted for a person that is easy enough to push to be lynched.
Wed 09:23

I dislike him
OptimusStein Wed 09:23

currently wondering if Beta was killed for activity or content
Kirkstein Wed 09:24

There goes that.
Shifted Wed 09:24

pretty sure it will take 1+ hour to read when I come back
Moderator Wed 09:24

NightOneDeath votes to lynch WaterTrousers
NightOneDeath Wed 09:24

I'll create another 2 stack
Kirkstein Wed 09:24

He put a message how we should be careful on how we vote then goes on to vote and bolt.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:24

(I am not seriously going to lynch NightOneDeath just because of the name calm down, it was just so I have a vote for now, when the discussions become a bit more serious, I will actually vote who I suspect.
Wed 09:24

)
SpeedGameBot Wed 09:24

SpeedGameBot dislikes ImmortalOne too
Kirkstein Wed 09:25

I like SpeedGameBot antics.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:25

SpeedGameBot also can't type ImmortlOne
TheLoudOne Wed 09:25

GOOD MORNING EVERYONE
Kirkstein Wed 09:25

HI LOUD ONE.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:25

GOOD MORNING LOUD ONE
WaterTrousers Wed 09:25

Shhhhhh
OptimusStein Wed 09:25

too loud
NightOneDeath Wed 09:25

Shhh
SpeedGameBot Wed 09:25

$$quiet
TheLoudOne Wed 09:25

SORRY I'LL USE MY INSIDE VOICE
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:25

*grabs microphone* *puts speaker next to TheLoudOne's head* HEY
TheLoudOne Wed 09:26

why we got vote sum1
Wed 09:26

seems mean
Boon Wed 09:26

Or in reverse psycho way, as per Mod's second line, his message is the cause of the mistrust and rife, and here we are, not having a peaceful D2. Actually, since when we ever have a peaceful D2.
OptimusStein Wed 09:26

got lynch sum2, mod no mercy
Kirkstein Wed 09:26

I believe it is just to keep the game from stalling.
Moderator Wed 09:27

TheLoudOne votes to lynch NotSus
Kirkstein Wed 09:27

I like this tactic. Might bring a new feel to the game. As in I already dislike the village that does not want to claim D2 if they have info and does not want to lynch the obvious suspects.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:27

yeah, but also, on D2?
TheLoudOne Wed 09:27

ok I pick this 1
OptimusStein Wed 09:27

and day 3 will be 3 lynches
Moderator Wed 09:27

Jim85 votes to lynch OptimusStein
NightOneDeath Wed 09:27

So we're lynching two people in one day?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:28

Yep
Kirkstein Wed 09:28

Yup
TheLoudOne Wed 09:28

I am sus bout not sus
Kirkstein Wed 09:28

I believe the top two votes will get lynched.
NightOneDeath Wed 09:28

How does that work?
Wed 09:28

But what about balance?
Kirkstein Wed 09:28

So we choose who we stack the votes on.
Jim85 Wed 09:28

OptimusStein has been repeating quite a lot of what others already said, so
Kirkstein Wed 09:28

The message says the mob wont tolerate balance.
NightOneDeath Wed 09:28

Does this cancel out the balance?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:29

I think he turned enforced lynch on for today, to force a lynch and the game runs that command twice in a row probably
SpeedGameBot Wed 09:29

Scroll up to see morning message about 2 lynches today
OptimusStein Wed 09:29

the message seems to imply so, yes
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:30

In exceptional cases, the mode is set to enforced lynch: a player is selected at random from those with the highest number of votes. If no one has any votes, this could result in ANYONE being lynched randomly. | I think this is what is happening, and he'll probably run this twice to lynch the first 2
NightOneDeath Wed 09:30

About the N1 Rev deaths? Why are there 7?
Jim85 Wed 09:30

I have an idea.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:30

I don't think they're all rev corpses, so... we don't know
Jim85 Wed 09:31

What about 3 corpses and 4 duds ?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:31

Same with the 4 supposed puppets we have
Wed 09:31

hmmm
Jim85 Wed 09:31

So it’s more difficult for revivers
NightOneDeath Wed 09:31

So there's a new role in here?
WaterTrousers Wed 09:32

So...
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:32

Yeah, because the Revenant clearly needed a buff, and the community definitely wanted that...
Wed 09:32

@NightOneDeath Probably
Jim85 Wed 09:32

doh
SpeedGameBot Wed 09:32

SpeedGameBot thinks there are new roles among us
Boon Wed 09:32

Double doh
SpeedGameBot Wed 09:32

And SpeedGameBot is not new
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:33

New roles is kind of a tradition for ext-x00 games, and this doesn't seem like an exception
SpeedGameBot Wed 09:33

SpeedGameBot think the community wants to nerf the rev more than buff
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:33

Exactly
ImmortlOne Wed 09:33

Kirkstein - who bolted? I'm still here :)
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:33

That's my point :P
FirstSeerCheck Wed 09:33

I hope i got checked by seer
ImmortlOne Wed 09:33

SGB spoke real words, so I'm happy to move my vote now
Moderator Wed 09:34

ImmortlOne votes to lynch cakewolfy
FirstSeerCheck Wed 09:34

This is alot to read, would take a while.
Wed 09:34

Asv first.
Moderator Wed 09:34

FirstSeerCheck votes to lynch GuihmoDelToro
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:34

We're not even an hour into the day yet, so... yeah
ImmortlOne Wed 09:34

that's a temp vote from me, I'll be voting someone for a proper reason later
Kirkstein Wed 09:34

I think the mod said we should expect new roles and new stuff in the game.
tomaTOES Wed 09:35

I'm happy to put my vote on whoever doesn't talk today
SpeedGameBot Wed 09:35

Activity check is already in progress, waiting for: serious lynch vote
Moderator Wed 09:35

tomaTOES votes to lynch cakewolfy
Kirkstein Wed 09:35

It seems this game has a special story behind it so I believe a new fraction is among us too.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:35

I honestly don't know about that
Kirkstein Wed 09:35

Undeads happened in 200 right?
Jim85 Wed 09:35

Fraction lol
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:35

yes
ImmortlOne Wed 09:35

how sure are you Kirk, 1/3?
FirstSeerCheck Wed 09:35

We gotta lynch 2 people today it seems
WaterTrousers Wed 09:35

1/5
Kirkstein Wed 09:35

Faction or whatever :).
ImmortlOne Wed 09:35

:P
FirstSeerCheck Wed 09:35

Harsh on d2
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:35

Demons were "added" in 100 and Undead in 200
Kirkstein Wed 09:36

Don't make fun of my grammar. :)
Wed 09:36

Yes so I believe someone new is getting added.
WaterTrousers Wed 09:36

We wont Kirk, we won't
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:36

But we have a lot of factions already, so I'm not sure mod would make another one, or at least not this early
Kirkstein Wed 09:36

I won't frown upon new roles. Unless they make no sense.
SpeedGameBot Wed 09:37

SpeedGameBot remembers when people said StrongMan made no sense and lynched them
Kirkstein Wed 09:38

YUP.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:38

LOL
WaterTrousers Wed 09:38

It's because he has no belly
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:38

I never saw that xD
NightOneDeath Wed 09:39

In a game this big, should it include all roles? (except tanner)
tomaTOES Wed 09:39

So far we have werewolves, vampires, coven, undead, and demons right? What's left then, changelings/faeries?
WaterTrousers Wed 09:39

cats
TK241 Wed 09:40

The real plot twist - humans, we were cats all along
tomaTOES Wed 09:40

We've also had a god-like figure (TAO)
Wed 09:41

So if we are taking leads from World of Darkness then Fey are the missing ingredient
SpeedGameBot Wed 09:41

We also have an imagination faction (Infection)
OptimusStein Wed 09:41

seems a bit coveny
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:42

@tomaTOES, yes those are the factions, don't forget about Neutrals AKA Drunks :P
Bugtician Wed 09:42

Can you imagine if this all turned out to be some cat based fanatasy
Wed 09:42

*fantasy
Kirkstein Wed 09:42

Who here remembers the Mortician?
MobileClient Wed 09:42

*snails in*
Wed 09:42

cat based fanty you say?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:42

@NightOneDeath, only if it's balanced of course, so I don't think EVERY role is in here, but most of them for sure
WaterTrousers Wed 09:42

We need Stoned since we already had Drunks
MobileClient Wed 09:42

purrfect
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:42

Ah, the Mortician
Kirkstein Wed 09:43

MapleSyrup gets me ^^.
SpeedGameBot Wed 09:43

SpeedGameBot thinks we need tree
NightOneDeath Wed 09:43

Oh ok, it probably shouldnt @MSF
tomaTOES Wed 09:43

Of course, Neutrals. Who could forget them!
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:43

I can't tell if that was a great or terrible fake role claim
Kirkstein Wed 09:43

I believe it was great at the time.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:43

Yes, but also nobody believed it
Kirkstein Wed 09:43

Stronkman sounded as a fake claim more then that.
Wed 09:44

And now we all believe the strongman.
NightOneDeath Wed 09:44

I had a thought. I think double lynch is meant to counter the revenant.
tomaTOES Wed 09:44

I remember mortician and frankenstein being claimed
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:44

uhhh
Wed 09:44

Maybe?
Wed 09:44

Idk
MobileClient Wed 09:44

Problem with the strongman claim was as soon as you claim it the role doesnt make much sense anymore (unless village manages to defend you till last 3)
Kirkstein Wed 09:44

Counter it how?
Wed 09:45

It implies that those people getting lynched need to claim?
TK241 Wed 09:45

Well the plot text said the elders used necromancy but had another trick up their sleeve
NightOneDeath Wed 09:45

One for the corpse, one for the sus
Kirkstein Wed 09:45

Possibly half of the village needs to claim D2 if shit hits the fan.
WaterTrousers Wed 09:45

Splattering
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:45

It seems like the double lynch thing is possibly a random event happening in the game, maybe there will be a random event every day?
Kirkstein Wed 09:45

Possibly.
Wed 09:45

As I said it seems this game has a special story behind it.
ext Wed 09:46

I imagine it'll be until we drop before a certain number of players.
NightOneDeath Wed 09:46

Oh that sounds cool
OptimusStein Wed 09:46

do strongmen know they are strongmen or is it like insomniac etc?
Kirkstein Wed 09:46

That's why I believe we have new factions. Good or bad.
Wed 09:46

Or both.
WaterTrousers Wed 09:46

Every special ext does
SpeedGameBot Wed 09:46

Someone said 7 deaths n0 aren't all corpse but SpeedGameBot doesn't think like it. Why don't we see any revive today if they aren't all corpses?
Kirkstein Wed 09:46

They know
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:46

^
Kirkstein Wed 09:46

@oprimus
OptimusStein Wed 09:46

aww that's not as fun!
ext Wed 09:46

Also consider that maybe any wolves might get two kills whilst there are a large number of item.
MobileClient Wed 09:46

So who are these elders? They create all this evil stuff, if mod is one of the elders we should lynch the mod before he creates more evil stuff.
Kirkstein Wed 09:46

Ah I was a strongman quite a few times.
Wed 09:46

Acts as a vanilla.
Wed 09:47

Powerfull only at the very end of things.
Bugtician Wed 09:47

I took the elders to be the coven
TK241 Wed 09:47

Actually them having necromancy as part of their set of skills could explain the extra corpse
Wed 09:47

Unless the extra corpse is plot related, not faction
SpeedGameBot Wed 09:47

New undead role
NightOneDeath Wed 09:47

SGBot, youre probably right. If the extra deaths down there were from another source, rev couldve revived last night
Bugtician Wed 09:47

If you read it it sounds like memebers of the village dabbled in witchcraft (coven) they then went on to raise the dead to fight alongisde them (undead)
Wed 09:48

now there's some other stuff
Kirkstein Wed 09:48

Yup. Some other stufd.
Wed 09:48

Stuff
Wed 09:48

Demuns.
SpeedGameBot Wed 09:48

New undead role uses wc
Masontwo Wed 09:48

Morning everyone
Kirkstein Wed 09:48

Super powerfull all mighty demuns.
TK241 Wed 09:48

I read it as the elders being like evil grand viziers
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:48

Yes, we knew that Bugtician, that's what all of ext-200 builds up to
Kirkstein Wed 09:48

Gv would never rise the dead.
Bugtician Wed 09:48

Right but what I'm saying is I didn't read it as "the elders" being a different set of people to the coven
NightOneDeath Wed 09:48

You still believe in fairy tales, Kirk. Demuns? Pff
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:49

Coven won ext-100 so they took over the village, they then learned necromancy for ext-200 when they were beaten by the village
TK241 Wed 09:49

Ahh right
Wed 09:50

Yeah then it may just be references to the older games
SpeedGameBot Wed 09:50

SpeedGameBot reminds people about people didn't belive in demun was lynched in 295
Wed 09:50

Type $$belive so the lord can know you belive in them
WaterTrousers Wed 09:50

belive
Bugtician Wed 09:51

$$belive
Masontwo Wed 09:51

$$belive
MobileClient Wed 09:51

So coven lost control to the undeads in ext-200 and they still create new stuff
Kirkstein Wed 09:51

$$believe
NightOneDeath Wed 09:51

$$belive
Bugtician Wed 09:51

Maybe they need to create new stuff to fuck over the undead they created?
Wed 09:51

Perhaps a new faction is primarily against the undead
NightOneDeath Wed 09:52

There should be a counter undead
Kirkstein Wed 09:52

Could be that the new faction is village aligned.
NightOneDeath Wed 09:52

Force
Kirkstein Wed 09:52

The necros
SpeedGameBot Wed 09:52

MobileClient doesn't belive in the lord -> perfect lynch targe. Discuss :p
Kirkstein Wed 09:52

THE SHIELD.
NightOneDeath Wed 09:52

Negro necroes
Kirkstein Wed 09:52

HYPE HYPE HYPE.
WaterTrousers Wed 09:53

the S.H.I.E.L.D
Kirkstein Wed 09:53

Also. Don't straight up believe me on this new faction deal. It could be that I am just hoping for something new :).
Masontwo Wed 09:53

If we lynch the mobile client, does everyone on mobiles suddenly lose the ability to play?
SpeedGameBot Wed 09:53

The unlive
Kirkstein Wed 09:54

No... I do not want to lose the ability to play on my phone.
MobileClient Wed 09:54

*gasp*
Wed 09:54

You dare?
Boynoon Wed 09:54

Bonjour
Masontwo Wed 09:54

I'd rather not
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:54

I'm still not completely convinced there is a new faction, but then again, I have been wrong about these things before
NightOneDeath Wed 09:54

We'll find out
NotSus Wed 09:54

Dude
MobileClient Wed 09:54

I may be slow and lag sometimes, but you wanna life without me?
NotSus Wed 09:54

The elders are the gud guys
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:55

noooooo MobileClient~~
MobileClient Wed 09:55

*LIVE
NotSus Wed 09:55

The one who rise the dead is the citadel
Wed 09:55

Not the elder
OptimusStein Wed 09:55

what
Boynoon Wed 09:55

Go commit sudoku
NotSus Wed 09:55

Re read it
NightOneDeath Wed 09:55

Lol
Kirkstein Wed 09:55

Maybe the new faction are the elders trying to reedem themselves?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:55

Done by the Elders
NotSus Wed 09:55

I think we got 2 factions
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:55

The elders are literally the Coven
NotSus Wed 09:55

1 is village
Kirkstein Wed 09:55

Yup they are.
NotSus Wed 09:55

2 is citadel
Kirkstein Wed 09:56

Damn those Coveny ****
Boynoon Wed 09:56

Maybe it's the mods themselves with Shane as the elders
NotSus Wed 09:56

Elders are working for village
Wed 09:56

They are gud coven
Kirkstein Wed 09:56

Notsus why aren't you a sus?
NotSus Wed 09:56

Citadel is the one who raises zombies
SpeedGameBot Wed 09:56

Did they accidentally infect people? :p
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:56

*also, I don't think the Coven ever lost control of the Undead, I think it was more that the Coven BECAME the Undead*
NotSus Wed 09:57

Because it is meta :P
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 09:57

Elders*
ImmortlOne Wed 09:57

so the likelihood of revenant means we just don't trust anyone who is revived, right?
Boynoon Wed 09:57

Yes basically
NotSus Wed 09:57

Lmao
Wed 09:57

Kill all the one who is revived
Wed 09:57

:3
ImmortlOne Wed 09:57

but we could just go in circles, if we do that
NotSus Wed 09:57

Yeh
Boynoon Wed 09:57

But you also have the fact that it could be messiah
NotSus Wed 09:58

So dont kill the revived
Kirkstein Wed 09:58

Remember 298
Wed 09:58

I do.
NotSus Wed 09:58

Remember~
Kirkstein Wed 09:58

No one trusts the revive anymore
NotSus Wed 09:58

Remember~~~~
Kirkstein Wed 09:58

297 as well
Masontwo Wed 09:58

Remember 299?
Kirkstein Wed 09:58

I do.
Wed 09:58

Shithole
NotSus Wed 09:58

Remember~~~~~~~~~~~~
Kirkstein Wed 09:58

SHIT HOLEEEEE
Boynoon Wed 09:58

Remember the spud where the corpse didn't for
NightOneDeath Wed 09:58

Maybe theyre night immune people, and has the ability to revive their members?
Boynoon Wed 09:58

Die
Kirkstein Wed 09:58

i do
Wed 09:58

Lol
NotSus Wed 09:58

Maybe~
Boynoon Wed 09:58

And still spoke in day chat even though he was dead
Kirkstein Wed 09:59

That was some fun shit
Boynoon Wed 09:59

Good times
NotSus Wed 09:59

Lol
NightOneDeath Wed 09:59

Lol Boynoon
Kirkstein Wed 09:59

No one could understand it
NotSus Wed 09:59

I wonder
Boynoon Wed 09:59

New role: The Immortal One
NotSus Wed 09:59

Do we even have seers?
ImmortlOne Wed 09:59

Why would you ask that?
Kirkstein Wed 10:00

I believe we should have all of them lol.
Boynoon Wed 10:00

I hope so
Wed 10:00

Imagine rob seers
Kirkstein Wed 10:00

Damn.
Boynoon Wed 10:00

In a game this but
Kirkstein Wed 10:00

My head would explode
Boynoon Wed 10:00

Big
ImmortlOne Wed 10:00

If we do have seers, they should come out when they want to - they shouldn't come out to answer the question "do we have seers?"
WaterTrousers Wed 10:00

*commits sudoku*
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:00

New role: Tree
NightOneDeath Wed 10:00

Hmm. What if the elders can revive anyone and instantly recruit them to their faction? That would be OP.
NotSus Wed 10:00

I think we only got 2 factions based on the story
Kirkstein Wed 10:00

It would destroy the meaning of the revenant
NotSus Wed 10:00

The citadels
Wed 10:00

And the village
Kirkstein Wed 10:00

Also no one would believe them
NotSus Wed 10:01

Elders are village alligned
MobileClient Wed 10:01

It also weakens revives even more, I dont think messiah or reviver or gv need more nerfs
NotSus Wed 10:01

Citadels would contain undead powers
Boynoon Wed 10:01

What about a role that can turn an evil role good
WaterTrousers Wed 10:01

You're all guilty, not a heart is good
NotSus Wed 10:02

That is nut going to happen
Boynoon Wed 10:02

Everyone is vm
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:02

They accidentally infected people when they were trying to help the village. Infection was born. And they live happily ever after. End of story
NotSus Wed 10:02

Because if so we would know the orther evils
NightOneDeath Wed 10:02

Boynoon he would instantly sell his team
Boynoon Wed 10:02

And all against each other
Jim85 Wed 10:02

Aaaaaanyhow...
Boynoon Wed 10:02

Obviously n1
NightOneDeath Wed 10:02

*anywhoo
Jim85 Wed 10:03

Why do folks assume there are 2 revenants?
NightOneDeath Wed 10:03

I just wanna say, JOTAROO!!
Boynoon Wed 10:03

Each revenant gets 3 corpses
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:03

*looks at 7 deaths n0*
Boynoon Wed 10:03

We have 7
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:03

Yea, why?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:03

All of the above
Jim85 Wed 10:03

And “1 extra corpse but WHAT MIGHT IT BE?”
NotSus Wed 10:03

Trash
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:03

New undead rol confirmed
Boynoon Wed 10:03

Revan
Wed 10:03

Just gets 1 course
Wed 10:04

Corpse
NightOneDeath Wed 10:04

Probably a new role: extra corpse
TK241 Wed 10:04

It's either 1 extra corpse or 4 extra corpses
Wed 10:04

Lol
Boynoon Wed 10:04

Fuck this shit phone
Jim85 Wed 10:04

I guess 4
MobileClient Wed 10:04

I think 4 extra corpses, 2 revs would be too obvious.
NotSus Wed 10:04

*go commit sudoku*
Boynoon Wed 10:04

New role: revenant+
Wed 10:04

Gets 4 corpses
WaterTrousers Wed 10:05

Anyway, I guess no one notice how all the day 1 deaths are memes of ext-200
MobileClient Wed 10:05

revenant+ upgrade now
Jim85 Wed 10:05

Revenant++
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:05

Extra role is an infected corpse
MobileClient Wed 10:05

Water, already said that n1^
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:05

*Extra death
MobileClient Wed 10:05

*d1
NightOneDeath Wed 10:06

Hmm. If you check the infected corpse in gy, you die?
MobileClient Wed 10:06

Someone else also said d1 that they are demon and undeads avatars
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:07

Yeah
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:07

Demon + undead = new role
Boynoon Wed 10:07

Dundead
TK241 Wed 10:07

I'm just hoping bignews has something for us
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:09

So who should we lynch today?
Wed 10:09

$$discuss
Boynoon Wed 10:09

$$notme
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:09

AissaBean - Demonlord of ext-100; Couch - Hellhound of ext-100; WheelProtoform - VoodooDoctor of ext-200; ASV - Medium of ext-200; KirschSetup - Ghoul of ext-200; TheServer - Ghoul of ext-200; Harry_1998 - Necromancer of ext-200
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:10

It's a hint: new role that ded at the beginning of the game :P
Boynoon Wed 10:11

Messiah that starts dead
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:11

Wessiah
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:11

Dessiah
MarcWide Wed 10:11

Good morning.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:11

Good morning
Birb Wed 10:11

I think there might just be one rev, they just have 7 corpses
MarcWide Wed 10:12

I'm so happy I managed to stop by this early, will make it easier for me to keep up.
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:12

$$goodafternoon
Boynoon Wed 10:12

$$getgudtimezone
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:12

SpeedGameBot doesn't belive in 1 rev 7 corpses
MarcWide Wed 10:12

So far we've had some roleplay, some theories on mod messages but no real accusations, no?
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:12

Must be new role
MarcWide Wed 10:12

And a roleblock claim
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:12

@Birb, do you really think Rev needed that? Do you think literally anyone would want that to be a reality?
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:13

Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?
Boynoon Wed 10:13

Caught in a landslide
MarcWide Wed 10:14

I have a hard time believing in two revs. I think possibly one rev with three or more corpses + new role with business in GY either from Undeads or a new evil faction.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:14

New role most likely imo
Birb Wed 10:14

I don't think rev needed a buff, I think it needs a nerf. Just a theory
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:15

@Birb, yes everybody thinks that, that's why I highly doubt the 7 corpse theory
Birb Wed 10:15

Not sure who said it but I agree that all dead N1 must be corpses because rev would have been able to revive?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:15

Even if he was able to, he might not want to, either to throw us off or for some other reason
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:15

Must be Infected corpses :p
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:16

Or maybe the other one's also belong to undead and the Rev can't use those
ext Wed 10:16

@MapleSyrupWolf, that's a good spot
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:18

Why doesn't maplesyrupWOLF look like a wolf?
Birb Wed 10:18

Maybe a new UD role is more likely than 2 revs
Wed 10:18

That would be OP
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:18

@SGB, because I'm more Maple Syrup than Wolf
NotSus Wed 10:19

Pffft
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:19

NotSus is definitely not sus, just simple evil :p
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:19

aka CAPTAIN CANADA https://www.theflagstore.ca/store/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/IMG_5851_2lowres.jpg
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:22

CaptainMaple
Wed 10:23

Again, what about today 2 lynches?
Kirkstein Wed 10:23

If they have two revs they do not need a necro right?
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:23

$$discuss
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:24

The problem is that we don't have any information as it is D2 :/
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:24

That is why we have to discuss about it
ImmortlOne Wed 10:24

there's always information
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:24

What do we want? Rabdom lynch? Lynch afks?
Kirkstein Wed 10:25

Wait for it.
Wed 10:25

Is my bet.. just wait for it.
ImmortlOne Wed 10:25

Wait for what?
Wed 10:25

Intel?
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:25

Some people can't be here late in the day
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:25

Random lynch is not a great idea imo, afks is okay, but if more people talk we can make a more educated decision
ImmortlOne Wed 10:25

I'll be finding a reason to vote, personally
Kirkstein Wed 10:25

Immortal wait for people to come
ImmortlOne Wed 10:25

it won't be random and it won't be an AFK vote
Wed 10:26

it might be a weak reason, but it'll be better than no reason, IMO
Kirkstein Wed 10:26

I am sure everyone will come around at one point.
ImmortlOne Wed 10:26

I am sure you're wrong, Kirk
Masontwo Wed 10:26

I'd rather lynch afk than random, but I'd prefer having an actual reason
ImmortlOne Wed 10:26

at least one person won't be here today
Kirkstein Wed 10:26

I said at one point.
ImmortlOne Wed 10:26

and how does that help us decide if we should vote AFKs today or not?
Kirkstein Wed 10:26

And no i wont lynch afks. Even if they are an easy vote
ImmortlOne Wed 10:26

what if someone is AFK for 7 days?
Archy Wed 10:26

ARGH!!!!!!!!
Kirkstein Wed 10:27

They get smitten
Wed 10:27

Easily.
Archy Wed 10:27

DAMN YOU ALL
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:27

Hi arch
Kirkstein Wed 10:27

What is it Archy?
Archy Wed 10:27

Someone broke into my house and robbed my coveted wolf skin
Wed 10:27

DAMN YOU
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:27

*shocks*
Masontwo Wed 10:27

What?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:27

:O
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:27

Et in ext?
Archy Wed 10:28

Oh well, I can probably get another one
Kirkstein Wed 10:28

I can explain that bit if anyone needs a mind blowing start to this wonderful game.
TK241 Wed 10:28

I'm not following
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:28

I feel like no sane ET would steal N1 in such a huge game
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:28

What the ext are you saying arch?
ImmortlOne Wed 10:28

ET?
Masontwo Wed 10:28

I'd like an explanation
Kirkstein Wed 10:28

I can explain..
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:28

ooooh
Kirkstein Wed 10:28

I am a thief.
Wed 10:29

New role
Wed 10:29

Village aligned
Wed 10:29

You guys all have items
Wed 10:29

I steal them
Wed 10:29

I find out what they are only at night
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:29

Dislike
Masontwo Wed 10:29

Wow, very rude
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:29

huh
Kirkstein Wed 10:29

Now i see
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:29

You robbed a WOLF skin
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:29

So what did you steal last night?
Archy Wed 10:29

F U
ImmortlOne Wed 10:29

village aligned thief?
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:29

What about it?
Kirkstein Wed 10:29

A person knows what item i took
Wed 10:29

Yes
Wed 10:29

Asked mod about it
ImmortlOne Wed 10:29

I don't hate the role.. I'm not sure about the alliance
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:29

A WOLF skin?
Kirkstein Wed 10:30

Still dont know how to act with it
ImmortlOne Wed 10:30

why would a thief be village aligned?
TK241 Wed 10:30

So you will find out what you stole tonight
Kirkstein Wed 10:30

I ASKED
Archy Wed 10:30

Wolf Pelt, to be more exact
Kirkstein Wed 10:30

if it is viage
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:30

ah
Kirkstein Wed 10:30

Village
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:30

Does that mean archy is wolf. Discuss
Archy Wed 10:30

It protects you from a night kill you bitch
Kirkstein Wed 10:30

It could be
Archy Wed 10:30

And you took it from me
Wed 10:30

Wow
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:30

Okay
Kirkstein Wed 10:30

I find out what the item does
Wed 10:30

Ar night
Wed 10:30

I didnt even get a morning message
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:30

Archy is not wolf then
Kirkstein Wed 10:30

Stop cursing me you little one
Wed 10:31

I just did my job.
Archy Wed 10:31

Makes seer see you as wolf tho
Wed 10:31

So good luck with that
Kirkstein Wed 10:31

Now I am protected.
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:31

But now we can know what type of role Archy is. Don't say it out loud
Kirkstein Wed 10:31

Didn't know that.
ImmortlOne Wed 10:31

or this could be a intra-faction pre-planned claim
Kirkstein Wed 10:31

It also implies archie knows more about me then I do about myself
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:31

I belive the item bases on your targey role type
ImmortlOne Wed 10:31

with Kirk and Archy planning this last night
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:31

Like ghpul
ext Wed 10:31

Interesting.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:31

Well, actually
Kirkstein Wed 10:31

Look guys I am buffled as you are
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:31

*ghoul
Kirkstein Wed 10:32

I just claimed because he seems to know the item i stole
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:32

I am also a Thief, I can confirm everything Kirk said
Kirkstein Wed 10:32

I did not know what I got
Wed 10:32

You see?
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:32

But
Kirkstein Wed 10:32

I am not alone.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:32

I was about to ask Mod what the deal was with no feedback
Kirkstein Wed 10:32

I asked him already
Masontwo Wed 10:32

Wow, this village is worse off than I thought
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:32

But now I see
Kirkstein Wed 10:32

He said he will include it
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:32

How can the targeted perspn knows about the item was robbed but not you?
Wed 10:32

Weird
Kirkstein Wed 10:33

It is strange yes
Wed 10:33

Thats why i asked
Masontwo Wed 10:33

People have resorted to stealing
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:33

Weirder than StrongMan :p
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:33

Yeah
Kirkstein Wed 10:33

He said you only find out during the night
ImmortlOne Wed 10:33

SGB - I'd agree, but 2 extra people are "confirming" it
Kirkstein Wed 10:33

Archie here is a new role i bet
ImmortlOne Wed 10:33

that's a lot to expose themselves if they're lying
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:33

Now I'm curious what I stole
Kirkstein Wed 10:34

Tbh I still have no idea how to act as a thief.
Archy Wed 10:34

I'm the farmer, you're the merchant
Kirkstein Wed 10:34

All i know is i am village
Archy Wed 10:34

I hate you
Kirkstein Wed 10:34

I like you too.
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:34

The targeted person should not have known so much about they were robbed. More than the fact that they were robbed
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:34

Archy, were you informed of the item at the start of the game or only when he robbed you?
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:34

Dislike the role
cakewolfy Wed 10:34

Morning...
Archy Wed 10:34

Start
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:35

huh
Kirkstein Wed 10:35

So a new role?
ext Wed 10:35

@Kirk, Maple: I assume you two didn't start with items of your own?
Kirkstein Wed 10:35

Nope
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:35

Not that I know no
Kirkstein Wed 10:35

We did not
cakewolfy Wed 10:35

So about the two lynches today.
Kirkstein Wed 10:35

I at least did not
ext Wed 10:35

@Kirk, Maple: I assume you didn't start with items of your own?
Kirkstein Wed 10:35

But i assume
Wed 10:35

All you guys have items
ext Wed 10:35

Hm, lag.
Wed 10:35

That's weird.
Kirkstein Wed 10:35

Or i just hit the right target
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:35

Feel like ghoul with some imaginations :p
Kirkstein Wed 10:35

Sorry Archie
cakewolfy Wed 10:35

With puppet shenanigens there might be two mislynches if done poorly.
TK241 Wed 10:35

I wonder if there's a counter role, like masons and illuminati
Wed 10:36

A cop may come and bust you guys
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:36

Also, normal protections do not block our robs, thought you guys might want to know that
Kirkstein Wed 10:36

Yrah
Wed 10:36

Hm nor prot
Wed 10:36

Cant stop us
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:36

etc.
ImmortlOne Wed 10:36

Are you stalkable/harlotable?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:36

Probably
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:36

Great, no one acn stop them
Kirkstein Wed 10:36

Yeah
Wed 10:36

I think we are
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:37

Rob me tonight
TK241 Wed 10:37

No known roles can stop them
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:37

I want to see it
Archy Wed 10:37

I'm a robber too tbh
ImmortlOne Wed 10:37

I'd love to get a confirmed non-lethal visit from you
ext Wed 10:37

A different kind, Archy?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:37

Well, it felt the need to specify that it can't block us and it says 'Normal' protection roles, so something might be able to stop us
Archy Wed 10:37

Yes
ext Wed 10:37

Maybe a Grave robber?
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:37

What the ext are you saying Arch?
Archy Wed 10:38

I Rob items from dead
Kirkstein Wed 10:38

Oh
Wed 10:38

So thats why you said
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:38

So real quick, did everyone here, except for Kirk and me, get an Item at the start of the game?
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:38

How did thief robbed a protection item from a robber?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:38

ah rip
Kirkstein Wed 10:38

You might be able to get it back
ImmortlOne Wed 10:38

what's your role name Archy?
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:38

Dislike
TK241 Wed 10:38

So this game is set in Liverpool?
ext Wed 10:38

probably Crypt Thief
Archy Wed 10:38

Yes, ext is correct
Wed 10:38

I assume ext has the same role then
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:38

SpeedGameBot Wed 10:38 How did thief robbed a protection item from a robber?
ext Wed 10:38

Thesaurus.com ftw
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:39

a robber have a protection item?????
Kirkstein Wed 10:39

I am curious to know
ImmortlOne Wed 10:39

you're claiming your role name is Grave Robber? Don't we.. already have a role named that?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:39

Guys, did you all get an item at the start?
Kirkstein Wed 10:39

Does it work forever?
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:39

No, we don't
Kirkstein Wed 10:39

Anyhow.
Wed 10:39

Yes
Wed 10:39

Did you all get an item
ext Wed 10:39

Immortl, no he's claiming CryptThief. That's different to GraveRobber.
Kirkstein Wed 10:39

?
Wed 10:39

I assume you guys did
Wed 10:39

Even if you dont know about it
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:40

I belive the item should base on the role type like ghoul
Archy Wed 10:40

I don't think I got anything from corpses
Wed 10:40

Just sayin
ImmortlOne Wed 10:40

oh, Crypt Thief, I'd missed that
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:40

So i don't trust Arch much
ext Wed 10:40

Archy, did you try and use your power last night?
Wed 10:40

If so, on whom?
Kirkstein Wed 10:40

Anyhow.. him talking so blatantly about a new role so early on makes me fear.
Archy Wed 10:41

Used it on a corpse
Kirkstein Wed 10:41

So you think you got nothing?
Archy Wed 10:41

Only available option
ext Wed 10:41

Which one?
Archy Wed 10:41

Why do you ask?
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:41

Kirk, rob me tonight. I want to see what type of item you will get from me
Kirkstein Wed 10:41

Ok
Wed 10:41

Will do
ext Wed 10:41

Curious as to your thought pattern.
Kirkstein Wed 10:42

I suggest maple rob someone else
Wed 10:42

I dont know if wr can steal from the same guy
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:42

If the item you will get base on my role type. Archy will have something to explain
Wed 10:42

I'm not new role
Kirkstein Wed 10:42

Ok good to know that
Wed 10:42

We will see what happens
Archy Wed 10:42

I just started with a item, I don't know what you mean
ext Wed 10:43

*Kirk steals a cauldron and broom from SpeedGameBot*
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:43

I don't see any item
Archy Wed 10:43

Cause you don't have one?
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:43

What the ext are you saying about start with a item Arch?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:43

It's strange though. Kirk and I, the Thieves, both didn't start with an item, but a supposed 'Crypt Thief' did, unless it is completely randomized, this is weird
Kirkstein Wed 10:44

Archy you are confusing us.
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:44

Anyone else can confirm it?
Kirkstein Wed 10:44

Tell us the name of the role
Archy Wed 10:44

I did
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:44

The "start with a item" thing
Archy Wed 10:44

Read, please
ext Wed 10:44

My guess is that items are randomly allocated across everyone.
Kirkstein Wed 10:44

Crypt thief
Wed 10:44

Hm. Ok
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:44

I guess
Archy Wed 10:44

Bro, someone stole an item from me
Kirkstein Wed 10:44

Well then i was very lucky or what?
Archy Wed 10:44

I think that clears stuff up
Kirkstein Wed 10:44

I stole it.
Archy Wed 10:44

Probably lucky
HeLicks Wed 10:44

Morning.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:44

I hope I was lucky as well
Kirkstein Wed 10:44

I hope so too
HeLicks Wed 10:44

Which of you fuckers stole my item :(
Kirkstein Wed 10:44

I am protected
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:45

Maybe I'll find out when my target;s gets on
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:45

...
Kirkstein Wed 10:45

I want you to be proted too
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:45

okay, that wasn't me
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:45

Hmm...
Kirkstein Wed 10:45

Wow
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:45

3 thiefs?
Masontwo Wed 10:45

Also, Archie knew he was stolen from before anyone mentioned items or thieves
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:45

I did not steal from HeLicks
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:45

Is this thiefs party?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:45

true
Archy Wed 10:45

I can also give stuff to others
Wed 10:45

Apparently
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:45

what
Kirkstein Wed 10:45

I believe there are more of us
HeLicks Wed 10:45

Everyone with an item can give it to anyone else, or it can be stolen apparently
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:45

SUS 100
Kirkstein Wed 10:45

I just did not see that people will know we steal from them
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:45

ohh
Archy Wed 10:45

Maybe you can't
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:46

You can give items? huh
Archy Wed 10:46

But I sell my items for money for a living
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:46

Wut? How can targeted person know more than you guys?
Kirkstein Wed 10:46

....
Wed 10:46

I dislike this already
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:46

We are literally told 'You can steal Items'
Kirkstein Wed 10:46

Yes
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:46

I was like? Items? Steal? What????
Day2Claim Wed 10:46

Morning all, not read back yet. As foretold I would like to claim today. I am 'Strongerman', not to be confused with 'strongman' or 'strongest man', who also seem to exist this game. We have a faction chat at night, but we area limited in what we can say. Strongman can only flex and link to a protein powder wiki, I can do the same but also claim to be a feminist, and strongest man can talk about how big his hands are.
Kirkstein Wed 10:47

And we have nimble fingers apperently
HeLicks Wed 10:47

Day2Claim claiming weakly on day 2.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:47

okay, that's maybe getting too meta Kirk
ext Wed 10:47

...
Kirkstein Wed 10:47

Not if i dont copy past
Wed 10:47

Paste
ext Wed 10:47

Day2, what the actual fuck?
Kirkstein Wed 10:47

Sorry if i breach the meta.
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:47

Can we lynch one of them and dig for science? :p
Moderator Wed 10:47

HeLicks votes to lynch Day2Claim
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:47

I think it's a little too close for comfort
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:47

What if this is puppets thing? :p
Kirkstein Wed 10:47

Ok.
Wed 10:48

I can be lynched for the sake of things
Wed 10:48

I dont mind.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:48

So, HeLicks, what was stolen from you? So we can get a better view of what these items do
Kirkstein Wed 10:48

It seems i am not alone in this
Moderator Wed 10:48

SpeedGameBot votes to lynch Day2Claim
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:48

The "faction chat" thing sounds like bs
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:49

It's a shitpost claim
Wed 10:49

Because their name is Day2Claim
Kirkstein Wed 10:49

It is a shit post claim
Wed 10:49

Stronger man
Wed 10:49

Limited chat..
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:49

Is it?
Kirkstein Wed 10:49

I am not taking it seriously
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:49

Yes, of course
Pieton Wed 10:49

Welp, there is fuck all chance I'm going to be able to play this on my mobile
Infected Wed 10:49

I forgot to use
The_The Wed 10:49

Sounds like they’re just claiming because of their name
Kirkstein Wed 10:49

Again. My thing is not to breach meta in any way.
Pieton Wed 10:50

So expect me to only be active after about 6pm most weekdays other than today
The_The Wed 10:50

Already lagging on phone. :(
Wed 10:50

^Same
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:50

Infected. What the ext about you forgot to use??????
HeLicks Wed 10:50

MapleSyrupWolf: An eye was stolen from me that let me see things.
Kirkstein Wed 10:50

See tjings?
Wed 10:50

Things
Wed 10:50

What things?
Wed 10:50

Chats?
HeLicks Wed 10:50

It let me see blight.
The_The Wed 10:50

I’ll be reading though
Kirkstein Wed 10:51

Wow.
Wed 10:51

Demuns?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:51

oh boy
Wed 10:51

I guess so
Kirkstein Wed 10:51

Thats a demun blighr.
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:51

HeLicks. You had an item at the beginning?
HeLicks Wed 10:51

it also let me cleanse blight
Wed 10:51

I want my eye back :(
Kirkstein Wed 10:51

Blight
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:51

Any drawbacks?
HeLicks Wed 10:51

NO drawbacks other than someone stealing it
Wed 10:51

Or at least none that it told me about
Kirkstein Wed 10:51

But why
Wed 10:51

Why do you know that
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:51

Like the Wolf Pelt makes you be seen as wolf apparently, but the Eye that basically counters the DL doesn't hmm
Kirkstein Wed 10:51

And we the thieves have no idea
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:51

I KNOW
Kirkstein Wed 10:52

I woudlnt know if archie here is not a loud mouth
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:52

You didn't see any message about you have an item at the beginning?
Wed 10:52

@HeLicks
HeLicks Wed 10:52

Some Items let you do things instead of any other ability you may have (you can switch between your normal night ability, and the item ability)
Kirkstein Wed 10:52

Oh...
HeLicks Wed 10:52

SGB: I got told at night "You have started the night with an item"
Kirkstein Wed 10:52

Wow
HeLicks Wed 10:52

or something like that
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:52

Archy claimed that he knew he had an item at the beginning, did he?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:53

The game: Here go steal some things. Thieves: Excuse me? Steal what? The Game: Items. Thieves: WHAT ITEMS?! The Game: *leaves*
Kirkstein Wed 10:53

Yup
Wed 10:53

My thoughts exactly.
Wed 10:53

I was very confused.
Wed 10:53

Happy and confused.
OptimusStein Wed 10:53

@maple where did you get that from? the wolf pelt power being seen as a wolf? archy says it protected from a night kill?
Kirkstein Wed 10:53

Optimus read.
Wed 10:54

Dont repeat what others say
OptimusStein Wed 10:54

my item protects from a night kill so I'm sus
Kirkstein Wed 10:54

Your item?
OptimusStein Wed 10:54

it's "Armor"
Kirkstein Wed 10:54

What are you on about?
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:54

What the ext is this again?
Wed 10:54

Are you claiming thief?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:54

Archy Wed 10:31 Makes seer see you as wolf tho Wed 10:31 So good luck with that
OptimusStein Wed 10:55

Archy claimed his wolf pelt protects him from a kill, why have 2 names for the same power?
Wed 10:55

no, you can click your item at night to see what it does
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:55

(what??)
Kirkstein Wed 10:55

Optimus
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:55

Are you claiming thief???????
Kirkstein Wed 10:55

You have the same item?
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:55

@Optimus
OptimusStein Wed 10:55

nope it's not pelt, it's "Armor"
Day2Claim Wed 10:55

done reading back, skimmed some of it.
Kirkstein Wed 10:56

OPTIMUS FOR THE LIFE OF ME
Day2Claim Wed 10:56

Am I correct in reading that the item itself is protecting you kirk?
SteamedHams Wed 10:56

STEAMED HAMS!
Kirkstein Wed 10:56

EXPLAIN
OptimusStein Wed 10:56

sorry "Steel Armour"
SteamedHams Wed 10:56

STEAMED HAMS FOR EVERYONE!
Day2Claim Wed 10:56

In which case, I guess you should be worried about someone stealing it off you?
Bugtician Wed 10:56

These have obviously been grilled
Day2Claim Wed 10:56

or is that not possible.
Kirkstein Wed 10:56

Maple steal from optimus
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:56

I wrote some things down yesterday when I saw my role: "I was supposed to steal items from players… what items? What does that mean? Powers? Limited-use abilities? I was more confused than ever, and I am the one with the role. "
Kirkstein Wed 10:56

Just a suggestion
OptimusStein Wed 10:56

yeah I'm fine with that
SteamedHams Wed 10:56

TAKE IT AS IT IS
HeLicks Wed 10:56

My spreadsheet does not allow for items, this is problematic.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:56

That's how confused I was to put things in perspective
Bugtician Wed 10:57

New column
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:57

alright sure
Kirkstein Wed 10:57

Yes
Wed 10:57

Me exactly maple
Wed 10:57

Yesterday when i saw it
HeLicks Wed 10:57

Bugtician: But items move and shit, annoying
OptimusStein Wed 10:57

obviously hoping the thieves are actually village
TK241 Wed 10:57

add a comment?
Bugtician Wed 10:57

Need a new table of items then
OptimusStein Wed 10:57

and assumed we all have an item?
Bugtician Wed 10:57

and current owners
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:57

We are, we would not be claiming so openly if we were would we?
Kirkstein Wed 10:57

I assume you all have one
Day2Claim Wed 10:57

it would make sense to have a counter thief of some kind though right?
Bugtician Wed 10:57

seperate sheet with owners on which night they had it
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:57

Apparently SGB didn't I believe?
TK241 Wed 10:58

yeah i thought that day2
Kirkstein Wed 10:58

Well optimus does not want to claim
OptimusStein Wed 10:58

but the reason I came out was because Archy said the Wolf Pelt also protects from a night kill, why the same power and diff name hmmmmmmmMMM?
Kirkstein Wed 10:58

But speaks a lot about itmes armors
TK241 Wed 10:58

new role: Judge Dredd
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:58

Also, if it turns out I stole a protection item I may not steal from Optimus, is that alright?
Moderator Wed 10:58

Kirkstein votes to lynch OptimusStein
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:58

*confuses*
ImmortlOne Wed 10:58

Optimus, it doesn't just protect from night kill, it also shows you as wolf, right?
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:58

What the ext is happening?
Kirkstein Wed 10:58

It is allright
ImmortlOne Wed 10:58

so your item does A, but his item does A+B
Day2Claim Wed 10:58

Did you get info on your wolf pelt this morning Kirk?
ImmortlOne Wed 10:59

so it has a different name, where's the issue?
Kirkstein Wed 10:59

Nope
Wed 10:59

Had no idea what i stole
Wed 10:59

No message
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:59

D2Claim, was your claim is serious?
Kirkstein Wed 10:59

Thought i got nothing
Day2Claim Wed 10:59

lol fuck no
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:59

I also do not know if I even claimed something
Day2Claim Wed 10:59

was torn between that nonsense and just claiming tanner
Moderator Wed 10:59

SpeedGameBot votes to lynch NotSus
SteamedHams Wed 10:59

"Strongerman" yea sure lol
Day2Claim Wed 10:59

I demand strongerman become a thing though
SpeedGameBot Wed 10:59

Hmmm
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:59

I wanted to ask mod if I was supposed to get a message if I didn't get anything, but that question was answered before I did
Kirkstein Wed 11:00

Flexings muscles
Day2Claim Wed 11:00

morse-flex
Kirkstein Wed 11:00

Yeah.
SteamedHams Wed 11:00

And what the hell would Strongerman do?
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:00

I will belive if someone claims tree :p
Kirkstein Wed 11:00

Also again not breaching meta anymore than I already did.
Day2Claim Wed 11:00

strongerman builds a gym and recruits villagers, turning them into strongmen
Kirkstein Wed 11:00

I am confused as all of you are
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:01

Gymleader, new role
SteamedHams Wed 11:01

Wow> would definitely buy that role lol
Day2Claim Wed 11:01

strongerman god damn it
Bugtician Wed 11:01

That explains why my item is "Weight Gain 4000"
Wed 11:01

for gains
Kirkstein Wed 11:01

Ext 400 adds a strongerman and a gym faction
Wed 11:01

I am joining that faction
Destroy944 Wed 11:01

I do not see any muscle. Hello 300. Catching up now.
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:02

My item is "Confusion"
Bugtician Wed 11:02

ww.es is now pokemon Go, fight only at gyms
Kirkstein Wed 11:02

Not the c word.
Wed 11:02

Anyhow. My battery is 6 percent.
Day2Claim Wed 11:02

but it's so early still
Bugtician Wed 11:02

Maybe steal a charger next time?
Kirkstein Wed 11:02

Before I go i need to say that if you guys want to lynch me and dig me i am all for it.
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:02

*throws extball at Bugtician*
Day2Claim Wed 11:02

fwiw I am buying into all this item stuff, seems to fun to be a ruse.
Wed 11:03

too*
Kirkstein Wed 11:03

I am in a bus. I cant steal here.
Wed 11:03

People see me
Pieton Wed 11:03

I was not told about my item at the start of the game
Wed 11:03

So I don't believe Archy
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:03

So I assume you did not have one Day2Claim?
Moderator Wed 11:03

Pieton votes to lynch Archy
Day2Claim Wed 11:03

I don't think I have an item
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:03

Pieton, but you do have an item?
MarcWide Wed 11:03

All this item talk. Three have claimed to have been stolen from. Two claimed thieves and one claimed CryptThief.
Pieton Wed 11:03

I do, however, have an item
Day2Claim Wed 11:03

It would be weird to have one and not be told about it
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:03

I see
OptimusStein Wed 11:03

did you try clicking it at night?
Pieton Wed 11:03

I was told about it on N1
Kirkstein Wed 11:03

Wow
Wed 11:03

I see
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:03

Archy, explain yourself
Kirkstein Wed 11:03

Archy...
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:03

(tbf, it might have been a mistake)
SteamedHams Wed 11:04

Oooooof
Kirkstein Wed 11:04

But how the hell did archie know so much
SteamedHams Wed 11:04

NO STEAMED HAMS FOR ARCHY
Kirkstein Wed 11:04

I did steal from him
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:04

I'm not new and don't have any item
TK241 Wed 11:04

DELIGHTFULLY DEVILISH SEYMOUR
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:04

*checks again for item* nope nothing for me
MarcWide Wed 11:04

I too believe there must be some sort of counter to the thieves. Do they keep their items forever? I mean... Already now it seems Kirksteing can't be killed, so that is pretty OP if he has no natural enemy.
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:04

Lame
Day2Claim Wed 11:04

Maybe we get wolf pelts from killing wolves?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:04

He could have lied about his item
Wed 11:04

Idk
SteamedHams Wed 11:04

Try checking your role info
Kirkstein Wed 11:04

I checked it 10000 times
Wed 11:05

Checked every single damn thing
SteamedHams Wed 11:05

They might have included info about whether you have item or not there
Kirkstein Wed 11:05

No items at the start. No one telling me what the hell a thief is supposed to do
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:05

Yep
Kirkstein Wed 11:05

Now i see we are a powerful bunch
TK241 Wed 11:05

unless the danger of a thief is "putting all the eggs in one basket"
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:05

Apparently, now that we finally actually know what we do
OptimusStein Wed 11:05

share the items around village perhaps?
MarcWide Wed 11:05

@Kirk and Maple. Does it say anything about you keeping the items forever? Any winning conditions? Any enemies?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:05

If we can give them away
Day2Claim Wed 11:05

can you use items up, pass them around, have more than one etc?
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:06

I claim tree. Just standing there and watch the world burn
Kirkstein Wed 11:06

It doesnt
Day2Claim Wed 11:06

ARE YOU SANTA?
Kirkstein Wed 11:06

I want to know if i am mow protected forever
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:06

We're village, that;s the only question in there that I can answer
Bugtician Wed 11:06

ARE YOU SATAN?
Kirkstein Wed 11:06

Or a thief can steal it from me.
Day2Claim Wed 11:06

if you stole it, it's logical it can be stolen back
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:06

No special win conditions or enemies
Kirkstein Wed 11:06

Yup
Wed 11:06

Logically
Day2Claim Wed 11:06

unless you stole a padlock and key too -_-
Bugtician Wed 11:06

It's also whether it is one-use or persists?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:06

Nothing about keeping it forever/giving away items
Kirkstein Wed 11:06

But
MarcWide Wed 11:06

But say a thieves has two or more items, which one is stolen if another thief tries to rob him?
Kirkstein Wed 11:06

He claimed a crypt robber
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:07

All I think
Kirkstein Wed 11:07

He robs items from dead people
SteamedHams Wed 11:07

Could a thief still steal an item once he successfully stole before?
Kirkstein Wed 11:07

He cant do that to me
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:07

We steal all items a player has I believe
Kirkstein Wed 11:07

It says
Day2Claim Wed 11:07

either a theif can only hold one item, or all items get stolen when a theif is robbed. Only logical way for it to work
Kirkstein Wed 11:07

We steal every night
Wed 11:07

Not just one nigjt
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:07

Yeah
Kirkstein Wed 11:07

Night
SteamedHams Wed 11:07

OK
Day2Claim Wed 11:07

is it "can steal" or you do steal
Pieton Wed 11:07

Sorry, was otherwise catching up
SteamedHams Wed 11:07

That would be kind of OP if he can get all the items lol
Day2Claim Wed 11:07

meaning, does it random a target for you if you don't select one
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:07

neither
Day2Claim Wed 11:07

forcing a visit.
Pieton Wed 11:08

This is going to be impossible.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:08

bla bla "allows you to steal"
MarcWide Wed 11:08

Well. If thieves really don't have any nautral enemy, then I predict at thief win.
Kirkstein Wed 11:08

Neither
Archy Wed 11:08

I can hold multiple items
Kirkstein Wed 11:08

Just allows us to steal
Archy Wed 11:08

We're village aligned
Kirkstein Wed 11:08

So i guess we can decide what to do
Day2Claim Wed 11:08

so you have the option to not visit someone
OptimusStein Wed 11:08

give the seer an armor, for example
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:08

This is going to be confusing
Day2Claim Wed 11:08

basically
Kirkstein Wed 11:08

Once we get some items
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:08

Yeah
Archy Wed 11:08

I would give the wolf skin the armour if I could
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:08

We can choose not to rob anyone
TK241 Wed 11:08

its not the thieves that are powerful, its the items
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:08

Why does Archy seem to have more information?
Day2Claim Wed 11:08

is it wolf skin, or wolf pelt
Archy Wed 11:08

I would give the wolf skin to the seer if I knew who he was
Day2Claim Wed 11:08

im getting confused now
Kirkstein Wed 11:08

Look. I am going to use it on myself.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:08

@SGB That's what we want to know too
Archy Wed 11:08

BUT SOMEONE STOlE IT
Wed 11:09

It's wolf pelt
Kirkstein Wed 11:09

Again archy sorry
TK241 Wed 11:09

its better to have 4 items that protect from a night death across 4 people, rather than one
Archy Wed 11:09

But wolf skin is easier
Pieton Wed 11:09

I will be using my item tonight, as it is actively bad to allow Evil to steal it
Day2Claim Wed 11:09

they are like different things
MarcWide Wed 11:09

@Archy, does the wolf skin need to be activated or does it work every night?
Day2Claim Wed 11:09

wolf skin sounds more sinister
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:09

@Archy, you were informed of the item at the start of the game or at the start of N1?
Day2Claim Wed 11:09

makes it sound like you can pretend to be a wolf or something
Archy Wed 11:09

It's passive
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:09

It does, doesn't it?
Pieton Wed 11:09

And I don't believe for one second that there are only Village aligned Robbers
SteamedHams Wed 11:09

Maybe there's a wolf-aligned Thief and village-aligned thief
Kirkstein Wed 11:10

Maybe.
MarcWide Wed 11:10

Passive. Got it. Does it stop working after you've been attacked at night?
Day2Claim Wed 11:10

were-theif?
Kirkstein Wed 11:10

All i know is i have no night chats.
Archy Wed 11:10

It works like a passive totem
Wed 11:10

Protector totem
Kirkstein Wed 11:10

And i work alone.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:10

Same Kirk
Pieton Wed 11:10

So who has claimed to be a thief? Kirk and Maple thieve from the living, Archy and ? from the dead?
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:10

Roblead, new role that recruit all robber in the night chat :p
Kirkstein Wed 11:10

Now i can work as a team
Wed 11:10

If maple wants to
SteamedHams Wed 11:10

ext kind of claimed thief
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:10

Well, we are part of the village, we're not neutral or something
Kirkstein Wed 11:10

It will be better to cordinate things
Pieton Wed 11:10

Yeah, ext was the other one
Kirkstein Wed 11:10

We are not yes
SteamedHams Wed 11:10

for he knew what the name of other thief was.
Kirkstein Wed 11:11

We are village thieves
Day2Claim Wed 11:11

so that's 3/4 potential "village" theifs
Wed 11:11

probably safe to assume that other factions get one too?
Kirkstein Wed 11:11

Probabnly
SteamedHams Wed 11:11

That would be scary
Day2Claim Wed 11:11

so there's probably like 20 items in the game
SteamedHams Wed 11:11

Or Maybe 1 thief each faction? lol
Kirkstein Wed 11:11

Remember ext 242
Wed 11:11

Oracle
Day2Claim Wed 11:11

I feel left out on the item front :(
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:11

I'm not sure about this
Pieton Wed 11:11

Ext actually makes Archy look more lit except that they could be Puppets
Wed 11:11

LAG
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:11

Why are there so many thiefs?
Day2Claim Wed 11:11

so they fuck with each other
Pieton Wed 11:12

Going for a shower, moving my vote
Moderator Wed 11:12

Pieton votes to lynch SteveySav
Kirkstein Wed 11:12

58 people at the start
Moderator Wed 11:12

Day2Claim votes to lynch leader
Kirkstein Wed 11:12

I assumed i am not the only one.
Day2Claim Wed 11:12

asv for now, because leader isn't leading.
Kirkstein Wed 11:12

It would be bad if i eas.
Pieton Wed 11:12

I'll either be voting for an AFK today, or on someone who does something super sus
Kirkstein Wed 11:12

Was
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:12

Just a new role first time is introduced and there are like bunch of them
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:12

I very much I assumed I was the only one
Pieton Wed 11:12

I think ImmortalOne is not sus based on their actions
Kirkstein Wed 11:13

Well I hoped i wasn't
Wed 11:13

So i can understand myself.better.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:13

hahaha
Wed 11:13

fair
Kirkstein Wed 11:13

It works better this way
Birb Wed 11:13

Reading up and whoever has that eye item should give it to someone they trust before they die with it. Seems like a very strong item against DL
OptimusStein Wed 11:13

ext never actually claimed crypt theif, he just guessed the name it seems
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:13

I swear if someone asked me what my role did I was going to answer "I have no idea"
MarcWide Wed 11:13

I noticed someone saying items can be given away to other players. I believe the thieves job is to help/protect village power roles. Say if someone claims seer, Kirkstein would then pass on his wolfskin
SteamedHams Wed 11:13

Wow. 1st guess and it is correct
Kirkstein Wed 11:13

I would pass it
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:14

But other's could do that
Kirkstein Wed 11:14

Only if i trust that person
Day2Claim Wed 11:14

Who said that Marcwide?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:14

I think we're just supposed to keep them away from evil players
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:14

What did people do with new role claim in 200? :p
Day2Claim Wed 11:14

I asked if he was santa but no one seemed to know
Kirkstein Wed 11:14

I for wxample may give my item to someone here.
cakewolfy Wed 11:14

Are the items one-time uses or not?
Kirkstein Wed 11:14

I dont know thst
SteamedHams Wed 11:14

Give it to me
Kirkstein Wed 11:14

That
Day2Claim Wed 11:14

depends on the item maybe?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:14

*shrugs*
SteamedHams Wed 11:14

IN EXCHANGE FOR STEAMED HAMS
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:14

I think it depends yes
cakewolfy Wed 11:14

If so it seems oddly similar to a village-aligned shaman.
Kirkstein Wed 11:15

I think Maple needs it more
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:15

Do we have killing item?
Day2Claim Wed 11:15

keep it for now Kirk, every faction is going to gun for you probably.
Kirkstein Wed 11:15

Gotta protect the fellow thief
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:15

awww
MarcWide Wed 11:15

Yeah, everyone holding an item could pass it on. But thieves are able to collet multiple and have some sort of bank/store full of items, therefore making it easier to distribute the items.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:15

But I don't even know what item, if any I have
Kirkstein Wed 11:15

I will see what i will do. Once i read more about it
Day2Claim Wed 11:15

Where are you getting this infor MarcWide?
cakewolfy Wed 11:15

Also it doesn't make sense to me that holders and thieves are on the same team since they steal from each other?
Smirkvod Wed 11:15

Just woke up. We have items?
Day2Claim Wed 11:15

Or is it just speculation?
MarcWide Wed 11:15

Someone said items could be given away
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:15

I think it's info that comes with the item?
MarcWide Wed 11:15

I'll try and find it for you
Day2Claim Wed 11:16

Cheers
Kirkstein Wed 11:16

Optimus said that
Wed 11:16

Mafc is right
Wed 11:16

Marc
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:16

Archy said it first
Kirkstein Wed 11:16

Oh
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:16

Archy said he could give items away, then Optimus said anyone with an item can do that
Day2Claim Wed 11:16

So, you are legit Santa confirmed?
Smirkvod Wed 11:16

I have no items sadly
Kirkstein Wed 11:16

I just want an exact role from optimus
Day2Claim Wed 11:16

want to join my gym?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:16

sure bro
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:16

Still wonder why does Archy have so many information than the other
Kirkstein Wed 11:16

Yes
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:16

^
Kirkstein Wed 11:16

I wonder that too
Wed 11:17

He confused me
Day2Claim Wed 11:17

Maybe he makes pelts
Kirkstein Wed 11:17

I had mo idea if it even worked
Jim85 Wed 11:17

Not everybody has an item
Kirkstein Wed 11:17

And he comes barging in
SteamedHams Wed 11:17

Maybe he's the Leader of the Thieves
Kirkstein Wed 11:17

How do you know that?
SteamedHams Wed 11:17

Lol
Kirkstein Wed 11:17

I mean bot doesnt have it
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:17

Us Thieves are just like "Items who? I don't know her" And Archy is just like, "Oh yeah, of course I know everything about your role and items"
SteamedHams Wed 11:17

So a faction of thieves
Kirkstein Wed 11:17

I would love it if we had a night chst
OptimusStein Wed 11:17

I think he's some kind of wolf thief
Kirkstein Wed 11:18

Chat
The_The Wed 11:18

A thieves guild?
Day2Claim Wed 11:18

Archy is Aladin
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:18

I wish
cakewolfy Wed 11:18

the prince of thieves.
Kirkstein Wed 11:18

It would make things cool for us
SteamedHams Wed 11:18

Maybe that's another subfaction
cakewolfy Wed 11:18

or was it king.
HeLicks Wed 11:18

There is no benefit to people hoarding the items from what I could tell, you can only "use" one of them at a time, so distributing them around seems like a good idea. I'm interested in whoever has my eye though
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:18

It would
Kirkstein Wed 11:18

We would be prepared for this shit
Wed 11:18

Now we just role with the punches
Smirkvod Wed 11:18

Who wants on one ion Strongerman? I am Strongestman, I need some recruits for my Elite 4.
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:18

New thief faction: rob every item in the village to win
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:18

hahaha
Kirkstein Wed 11:18

We know nothing. Yiu guys know more then us
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:18

@SGB That would be interesting
Day2Claim Wed 11:18

fite me
Kirkstein Wed 11:19

It would
Wed 11:19

Fit you
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:19

Kirkstein Wed 11:18 We know nothing. Yiu guys know more then us | It is actually sad how accurate this is though
Day2Claim Wed 11:19

real talk, I'm guessing we have scapegoats in the game too?
Wed 11:19

based on mod note.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:19

Don't think so
SteamedHams Wed 11:20

What kind of scapegoats?
MarcWide Wed 11:20

I'm going AFK now, but I will check in later.
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:20

Wut is scapegoats?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:20

I think 'Enforced Lynch' is on
Day2Claim Wed 11:20

they die if there is a tied vote
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:20

Scapegoat gets lynched if balanced
Wed 11:20

"In exceptional cases, the mode is set to enforced lynch: a player is selected at random from those with the highest number of votes. If no one has any votes, this could result in ANYONE being lynched randomly." I think this is what's happening
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:20

How do you know about scapegoat?
Wed 11:20

Is that a role?
SteamedHams Wed 11:20

Oooooh right. Didnt notice it.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:20

Other games
Day2Claim Wed 11:20

It's in other werewolf games
Wed 11:20

very common
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:21

It is
SteamedHams Wed 11:21

There would be a 2 lynch today whether we like it or not
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:21

Yep
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:21

I don't see it's common in online werewolf game
Wed 11:21

Only see it irl
Day2Claim Wed 11:22

this is the only online werewolves game I've played much to be fair, but it exists in that one on steam
SteamedHams Wed 11:22

On steam? :O
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:22

which one?
Day2Claim Wed 11:22

Town of Salem
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:22

Nani?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:22

No it doesn't
Day2Claim Wed 11:22

I could have sworn it was in there
SteamedHams Wed 11:22

*rapidly searches for the game*
cakewolfy Wed 11:22

There isn't a scapegoat in ToS.
Day2Claim Wed 11:22

hmm
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:22

You might be thinking of Jester, but that is something very different
Day2Claim Wed 11:23

nah was definitely thinking of scapegoat
Wed 11:23

Jester was interesting though
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:23

hmm
cakewolfy Wed 11:23

Jester was frustrating.
Day2Claim Wed 11:23

only played it a bit though to be fair, was like 60% trolls
The_The Wed 11:23

It’s in the Millers Hollow expansion
Jim85 Wed 11:23

HOW come two thieves managed to steal items when not even everybody has an item? How many thieves must there be then, huh?
cakewolfy Wed 11:23

They were always too obvious.
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:23

Maybe we have Jester around here
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:23

Yeah, like The_The said
SteamedHams Wed 11:23

Demmit. It isn't free
Day2Claim Wed 11:23

That's why I said there's probably 20 items Jim
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:23

Not anymore unfortunately @SteamedHams
Day2Claim Wed 11:23

or an arbitrary high number
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:24

On the site you could play for free, but unless you already have an account it's not anymore
Day2Claim Wed 11:24

There's a non steam, web based version that is free SteamedHams
SteamedHams Wed 11:24

Any games similar to that on Steam taht you know, Maple?
Day2Claim Wed 11:24

all steam does is load the page anyway
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:24

@Jim85 at least 3 :P
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:24

I wonder if there is any Jester. People talked about tanner for ext
Jim85 Wed 11:24

Still lucky hits
SteamedHams Wed 11:24

Spill the name, Day2Claim lol
Day2Claim Wed 11:24

Same name
SteamedHams Wed 11:24

Ooooooh
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:24

Day2Claim, not anymore, they made it paid unless you have played at least one game
Wed 11:25

Because bots or something I believe
Day2Claim Wed 11:25

oh
Wed 11:25

sorry then :(
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:25

Yeah, it's pretty sad :(
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:25

There is ToS app in mobile
Wed 11:25

And a card game irl
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:25

True
Day2Claim Wed 11:25

we are derailing this chat hard :D
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:26

yes we are
Wed 11:26

It good to get our mind off of theives and items and stuff
Wed 11:26

It's a little *c word*
Day2Claim Wed 11:26

So I guess we assume no more new roles (except theif related stuff)?
Wed 11:26

How many new roles were added for 100 and 200
Wed 11:26

I wasn't around then
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:26

Never assume anything in these games
Wed 11:26

uhhh
Wed 11:26

a lot
Day2Claim Wed 11:26

right
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:26

1 second
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:27

Is thief stuff relate to mod's story
HeLicks Wed 11:27

I would assume new roles and a new faction tbh
Wed 11:27

previous #00 games had it, not unreasonable to assume this one does also
Wed 11:27

like, there is probably more to the items than just "some people have items"
Day2Claim Wed 11:28

doens't have to be, could just be a game to test out the item system
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:28

100: Beholder, Mason Leader, Tarot Reader, Witch Hunter, Direwolf, (Demonlord, Hellhound) 200: Courtesan, Grand Vizier, Illuminati Leader, Illuminati Lookout, Inquisition Leader, Inquisitor, Maple Wolf, Purifier, Omegawolf, Acolyte and the entire Undead faction. | I think those are the roles?
HeLicks Wed 11:29

D2C: If you really think that, then you joined the wrong game
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:29

Item expansion is coming
Day2Claim Wed 11:29

looking at that
Wed 11:29

Yeah..
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:29

Maybe there is a role that can make item
SteamedHams Wed 11:29

Wow
Day2Claim Wed 11:29

has to be a tinker or something
Wed 11:29

Also Elders were mentioned at the start
SteamedHams Wed 11:29

That would take 2-3 days to make
Day2Claim Wed 11:29

although I imagine in a game this size that role would ruin the game
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:29

Elders are the old coven from ext-100
HeLicks Wed 11:30

Elders is a storyline hook from ext-200/ext-100
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:30

It's continuing the story from ext-200
Day2Claim Wed 11:30

Yeah I got that
Wed 11:30

but it is also a role in other games
Wed 11:31

and if we are just theorizing 'stuff', that's a clear a clue as any.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:31

Also, I'm going to mention it again, do you guys think the double lynch from today might be one of many possible events? That's maybe randomized every day?
HeLicks Wed 11:31

ext-200 had a story built around the idea that the coven team who won ext-100 (vanquishing the demonlord, and wolves etc) became village elders and used their magic to "help" the village while doing terrible things in secret (that resulted in the undead faction)
Day2Claim Wed 11:31

Possible Maple
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:31

Maybe mod should publish a werewolf book
Day2Claim Wed 11:31

new moon type thing?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:31

I think so
HeLicks Wed 11:31

MapleSyrupWolf: I like hte idea of randomly daily events, so I'm happy with that thought for now
Day2Claim Wed 11:31

If that's the case we will work it out fairly quickly
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:32

It feels like the double lynch is too random at such an early time, so yeah
Bugtician Wed 11:32

I dunno, might just be to get things moving
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:32

Imagine good people can't do anything at night event lol
Bugtician Wed 11:32

there are 60 people
HeLicks Wed 11:32

Based on my blight-seeing-eye, I expect the demons have returned to the village, we probably need to be careful about that, they may even be more in number (I was looking forward to seeing how many people were blighted tonight)
SteamedHams Wed 11:32

I thought the random lynch only works to those people that have same number of votes?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:33

@Bugtician, maybe, but on Day 2 is still very early
SteamedHams Wed 11:33

Do you happen to know how to use the "Eye", @HeLicks?
ImmortlOne Wed 11:33

There will be 2 lynches and if there's tied votes for either (or both), it'll be random between those with tied votes. Not too complex, right?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:33

Seems like it HeLicks
Day2Claim Wed 11:33

so currently
Wed 11:33

I die
Wed 11:33

and one of the 2's dies randomly?
ImmortlOne Wed 11:34

seems so
Day2Claim Wed 11:34

k
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:34

Think so yes
HeLicks Wed 11:34

SteamedHams: Blight-seeing was passive, with an ability to remove blight from people
Wed 11:34

No one started with blight, for what it's worth
SteamedHams Wed 11:34

Ooooh thought it is an active item :/
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:34

People dislike any new claim relate to Strongman D2C :P
SteamedHams Wed 11:34

YOU GET STEAMED HAMS FOR THAT
HeLicks Wed 11:34

removing blight was active, seeing was passive
Wed 11:35

But removing blight looked like something I could do *instead* of any normal night ability I may have not in-addition to
Wed 11:35

as for the 2-lynches, I assume the game will do the lynching thing twice, picking the most-votes person each time, or randomising a lynch from tied votes (so if we had 1 person in the lead then 2 ties, the leader would die then a random from the tiebreaker etc)
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:36

Sometimes if you can swap abilities like that you can still do both
TheLoudOne Wed 11:36

im gonna refer to all this stuff as itums, cos until I see evidence they are real I think they like demuns
Archy Wed 11:36

No u
HeLicks Wed 11:36

You do that :thumbsup:
Archy Wed 11:36

Abilities?
Wed 11:36

Wdym
TheLoudOne Wed 11:36

so who got itums then?
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:36

If they are evil, i would think they are coven
Wed 11:37

Seems like cocen thing
Wed 11:37

More than demun
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:37

@Archy Abilities are abilities man, just regular stuff
SteamedHams Wed 11:37

Coven Thief would make sense
HeLicks Wed 11:37

Archy: normal night abilities like stalk/harlot/protect/seer etc
Day2Claim Wed 11:37

do they steal using portals?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:37

True, someone did suggest a Coven aligned Thief once :P
Wed 11:37

No, it's actually more specific about how we steal than what we steal Day2Claim
HeLicks Wed 11:38

I suspect different factions may have their own ways of stealing items so that every faction has a chance
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:38

Anyone who wasn't robbed can confirm they had a message says they have item at the beginning of the game or n1?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:38

HeLicks, just ut of curiosity, what was the eye called?
Wed 11:38

If you remember
HeLicks Wed 11:38

There was no message at the start of the game saying I had an item, just the message after night saying I started the night with an item
SteamedHams Wed 11:38

So it is safe to say that each faction has 1 or 2 thief/ves?
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:38

Eye lasher :p
HeLicks Wed 11:39

MapleSyrupWolf: I do remember, but I was goign to let whoever stole it tell me what it was called
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:39

Not sure SteamedHams
Day2Claim Wed 11:39

I would appear that way Hams
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:39

ah lol
Moderator Wed 11:39

Jim85 votes to lynch MapleSyrupWolf
Day2Claim Wed 11:39

I think on balance there would be more thiefs on the town side
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:39

You'd have to wait until tomorrow though, they don't even know
Jim85 Wed 11:39

I sus MS Wolf
Day2Claim Wed 11:39

Jim with the bold claims
Jim85 Wed 11:40

Kirk was much more open about being a thief, and MapleSyrup doesn't seem to want to know.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:40

I am just a plain 'Thief' part of the village, I have no idea if there are other thieves in other factions, personally I don't think so, but it is possible I guess
Wed 11:40

???
Wed 11:40

Can you explain what you mean?
Jim85 Wed 11:40

So why do you only now ask HeLicks about his item?
Day2Claim Wed 11:40

they were both quite active and open, at least that's how I read it.
SteamedHams Wed 11:40

Could Thief use all the stolen items at the same time?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:40

Because I'm curious about what it's called
Jim85 Wed 11:40

About ToS and shit like that.
Wed 11:41

@D2C
HeLicks Wed 11:41

MapleSyrupWolf: did you steal from me then or someone else? Does your message tell you if you were successfull at stealing?
Day2Claim Wed 11:41

fair
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:41

It doesn't have any reason, a name doesn't mean anything
Wed 11:41

@HeLicks, I stole from someone else and we got literally no message
Day2Claim Wed 11:41

we?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:41

Kirk also said he didn't get a message
Jim85 Wed 11:41

Can you tell who you robbed?
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:41

I don't know what the ext is going on
Day2Claim Wed 11:41

I though he said he did get a message
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:41

I choose my target
Day2Claim Wed 11:41

because how else would he know he has the item now?
Jim85 Wed 11:41

No wait...
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:42

No, he had to ask mod what was up, we are told at night
Wed 11:42

@Day2Claim, becuase archy, his target, told him
Day2Claim Wed 11:42

mod doing it all manually?
Wed 11:42

that's going to be fun for them lol
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:42

You didn't rob HeLicks so there is another thief
Wed 11:42

Hmmmmm
Jim85 Wed 11:42

Back to my question how many thieves we expect.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:42

No, he didn't get a message, so he asked Mod why, then Mod replied that we are told at night
Jim85 Wed 11:43

And MS Wolf found it too "c word"
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:43

Archy knew his item was stolen, and told us all what it was
Day2Claim Wed 11:43

oh, so you wait one day and get told the following night if you were successful or not?
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:43

60+ people and 3 thief coincidentally robbed 3 different players who coincidentally have an item
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:43

Apparently
Day2Claim Wed 11:43

that seems..
Wed 11:43

weird
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:43

We didn't know that either
Jim85 Wed 11:43

I'm beginning to believe in the idea of all factions having their own thief.
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:43

Does it sound interesting?
Day2Claim Wed 11:43

must be a balance reason
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:43

@SpeedGameBot, well I don't know if my target had an item
Wed 11:44

I can only wait until they tell me or wait until night
Day2Claim Wed 11:44

but if we do have an item
Wed 11:44

we find out we lost it in the morning
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:44

hmm
Day2Claim Wed 11:44

so before you do..
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:44

Yep
Day2Claim Wed 11:44

are you stealing them with fed-ex or some shit?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:44

And you guys with items knew more than the thieves
ImmortlOne Wed 11:44

yeah, like I said at the start, I trust the role claims of Thief, I just don't know if I trust the faction aspect of it. I could totally see Village Thief, Wolf Thief, Coven Thief etc.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:44

apparently?
HeLicks Wed 11:45

I think there are Theives in every faction.
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:45

Can i have an item from Amazon?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:45

I guess it is possible that different factions have different thieves, but I am not sure
WeWubMasons Wed 11:45

//fucking swigs whiskey// what's up lads I have lag for days and it took like half an hour to read all of this
Day2Claim Wed 11:45

Are you fulfilled SpeedGameBot?
ImmortlOne Wed 11:45

as a result, I don't trust those who have claimed Thief, as much as I thought I did
SteamedHams Wed 11:45

PLS DONT STEAL ALL MY STEAMED HAMS
Jim85 Wed 11:45

What happens to the item a thief has stolen when the thief is lynched?
WeWubMasons Wed 11:45

in GY, probably????
TK241 Wed 11:45

cmon you know you bought them from krusty burger
Jim85 Wed 11:46

Oh
Wed 11:46

So that's why we have a crypt robber
Day2Claim Wed 11:46

item goes to GY Jim, as someone was talking about a grave robber type role earlier
Jim85 Wed 11:46

or whatever
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:46

@ImmortlOne, well you could see it like this: Evil Thieves probably didn't know about other thieves, so claiming like this, like Kirk and I did, is dangerous for them
WeWubMasons Wed 11:46

I'm gonna put an ASV on someone I've not seen speak. I'm just about to go out for a while.
Moderator Wed 11:46

WeWubMasons votes to lynch Boon
Jim85 Wed 11:46

If thieves are from different factions they won't have night chat.
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:46

$$confuse
ImmortlOne Wed 11:46

MSWolf - maybe I trust the first claim more than the follow up ones
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:47

That is very fair
SteamedHams Wed 11:47

Who is the 1st claim?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:47

Kirk
Wed 11:47

Then a few minutes after that I claimed
Jim85 Wed 11:47

Kirk, it would be good if you told us if you had tried night chat.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:47

He doesn't, he said
SteamedHams Wed 11:47

STEAMED HAMS FOR HIM, THEN
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:47

I also don't, I tried
Jim85 Wed 11:47

Oh Okay.
HeLicks Wed 11:47

$$go
ImmortlOne Wed 11:47

you'd be told if you had night chat, I'd think
HeLicks Wed 11:47

bad SpeedGameBot :(
WeWubMasons Wed 11:47

Kirk was first to claim, but Archy is what spurred him to do so by claiming to be stolen from
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:47

Yeah
Jim85 Wed 11:48

But if factions have their own thieves, they would already have night chat from their factions.
HeLicks Wed 11:48

You'd be told, and also everyone tries to talk anyeay just incase... right?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:48

Yes, but he didn't have to claim
Wed 11:48

Yeah lol
ImmortlOne Wed 11:48

Thieves is a role, like stalker - multiple stalkers don't have night chat, right?
Day2Claim Wed 11:48

Archy claimed an item, but not a role right?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:48

He claiemd a role
Jim85 Wed 11:48

He did
WeWubMasons Wed 11:48

Yep, I randomly spam stuff in night chats all the time lol
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:48

Crypt Thief
Day2Claim Wed 11:48

oh
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:48

A thief but for the dead
SteamedHams Wed 11:48

He claimed Crypt Thief
Day2Claim Wed 11:48

oh yeah, sorry.
Wed 11:48

I need coffee
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:49

ext guessed that first try, which is still.... Idk
SteamedHams Wed 11:49

Yea
Day2Claim Wed 11:49

could be a second one
Archy Wed 11:49

:p
Wed 11:49

I think so too
SteamedHams Wed 11:49

Either ext is another "crypt" thief or Archy is lying
Day2Claim Wed 11:49

trying to work out if items are random, or role specific
Wed 11:49

like, how are they assigned
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:49

They seem to be random
Day2Claim Wed 11:49

based on what?
Jim85 Wed 11:49

My first thought was Archy was a wolf who got robbed of his skin.
HeLicks Wed 11:50

So we have normal theives so far then in Maple and Kirk, and a Crypt Theif in Archy?
Jim85 Wed 11:50

Which would make him vulnerable to the remaining wolves.
ImmortlOne Wed 11:50

the thieves are actually scalpers!
WeWubMasons Wed 11:50

Yep
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:50

The Eye and Pelt don't seem to have too much to do with what they are, unless the owners want to claim otherwise
Day2Claim Wed 11:50

I think they would have to be a controlled random at best, otherwise you could roll all the items onto the wolves for example.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:50

Armour, could, Idk
HeLicks Wed 11:50

and Archy started with a wolf skin? that protected him but made him look like a wolf? and Optimus had some armour?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:50

Yes HeLicks
Archy Wed 11:50

Apparently
Wed 11:50

Seems so
HeLicks Wed 11:50

and I had an Eye. Am I missing anything ?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:50

Don't think so
HeLicks Wed 11:50

:thumbsup:
Day2Claim Wed 11:51

can we put them all together and build a mecha-wolf?
Jim85 Wed 11:51

Would it be a good idea if everybody claims whether they have an item?
WeWubMasons Wed 11:51

it's also possible Archy's role has a name that makes him sound more sus than Crypt Thief, and is calling himself that for cover, which would explain the correct 'guess
Day2Claim Wed 11:51

Dr Doom 5th faction confirmed.
HeLicks Wed 11:51

Crypt Theif makes sense as a way to reclaim items that fall to the grave
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:51

True
Day2Claim Wed 11:51

or Terminators
Jim85 Wed 11:51

I wanna know how lucky it is for thieves to have hit on two people with valuables already.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:51

possibly 3, I really hope 3
Pieton Wed 11:51

I would strongly suggest that items are randomly distributed
Day2Claim Wed 11:51

completely random?
Archy Wed 11:51

:p
Jim85 Wed 11:51

But how many is the question.
Day2Claim Wed 11:52

seems like it runs the risk of throwing the balance.
Archy Wed 11:52

I'll just keep searching for items, don't mind me
Jim85 Wed 11:52

And therefore claiming possession of an item is maybe less dangerous than a role claim.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:52

Well if a type of thief (Archy) got an item, then it's probably completely random
Pieton Wed 11:52

I think you will die tonight if not today, Archy ;)
SpeedGameBot Wed 11:52

Explanation: people were infected and imagine about new role when being sick :p
Archy Wed 11:52

Would really appreciate a subfaction recruit
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:52

Archy, did you get any feedback from your ability this morning?
Wed 11:52

same though?
Archy Wed 11:52

Piston, please don't threaten me
Wed 11:52

Well, I was told that my ability was stolen
Pieton Wed 11:52

Why would you just randomly try and steal?
Day2Claim Wed 11:52

Better join my gym and bulk up Archy
Pieton Wed 11:53

Your ABILITY was stolen?
Wed 11:53

Not your item?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:53

I mean your steal ability, not item
Pieton Wed 11:53

Get. Out.
Archy Wed 11:53

My item
Moderator Wed 11:53

Pieton votes to lynch Archy
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:53

I'll take that as a no then?
Archy Wed 11:53

I got no response
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:53

Okay
Jim85 Wed 11:53

To what?
Archy Wed 11:53

Pieton seems very aggressive towards me
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:53

His item stealing
Archy Wed 11:53

For some reason
Pieton Wed 11:53

I think your claim is suspect
Jim85 Wed 11:54

I think it makes sense.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:54

Me too, but also it makes sense
Pieton Wed 11:54

And you said that you were told you had an item at the start of the game
Wed 11:54

And you said your item got stolen, and then your ability got stolen
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:54

I did ask about that, and he ignored me :(
Jim85 Wed 11:54

If we lynch a thief who had stolen an item, the item would be lost, right?
Archy Wed 11:54

Well, then that implicates LITERALLY every other thief that has claimed
Wed 11:54

I don't see why you find me in particular sus
Day2Claim Wed 11:54

In Archy's defense, and I have no idea why. He has flip-flopped on terminology a few times this game already, and it wasn't that sus. For example pelt / skin earlier.
Pieton Wed 11:54

You're claiming different type of thief
Archy Wed 11:54

So?
Jim85 Wed 11:54

How many thieves have claimed? Just two right?
Pieton Wed 11:54

So I think you're sus
Jim85 Wed 11:55

Plus a crypt thief.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:55

2 thieves + 1 Crypt Thief
Archy Wed 11:55

Ext guessed my name first try, I don't think I'm alone
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:55

yes
SteamedHams Wed 11:55

@JIm85, we have Crypt Thief that steals item from Gy, if that's true
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:55

And tehre is a 3rd Thief somewhere
Wed 11:55

there*
Pieton Wed 11:55

Ext guessed a name that we have no evidence of
Day2Claim Wed 11:55

You claimed after Ext mentioned it right?
Archy Wed 11:55

Yes
Pieton Wed 11:55

So whether that is your name, his name and you accepted that, or no role at all but just a cover, we don't know
Archy Wed 11:55

Live with it
WeWubMasons Wed 11:55

I'm off out now, have fun lads <3
Archy Wed 11:55

You don't
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:56

From what he said I think he looked up synonyms for Graverobber
Archy Wed 11:56

We didn't know if illuminati was true
Pieton Wed 11:56

This is why I suspect you.
Archy Wed 11:56

I'm glad to say we didn't lynch them in ext-200
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:56

And then guessed Crypt Thief
WaterTrousers Wed 11:56

Are we playin GTA 5 or something
Pieton Wed 11:56

I was screaming for them to be lynched, I was just dead :p
Archy Wed 11:56

Ext could be bloodhound
Wed 11:56

But oh well
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:56

Probably because it contains Thief
Archy Wed 11:56

Well, seems you have bad judgement on new roles, pieton
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:56

Yes WaterTrousers, yes we are
ImmortlOne Wed 11:56

I'd want confirmation from ext on exactly what they meant
SteamedHams Wed 11:56

Could Seer and BloodHound check people with item, tho?
Pieton Wed 11:56

Not gonna worry about that, I kill people who aren't consistent
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:57

I don't think they see items or anything
Day2Claim Wed 11:57

I need to head off for a bit
Jim85 Wed 11:57

I'd expect a seer not to see items.
Pieton Wed 11:57

Back later.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:57

How would Wolf pelt ever be effective in fooling the seer if so lmao
Day2Claim Wed 11:57

ooo, maybe there is an item seer
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:57

Probably tbh
Day2Claim Wed 11:57

that would be so shit
SteamedHams Wed 11:57

That would empower her abilities
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:57

Similar to the Oracle, as mentioned earlier
Jim85 Wed 11:57

OOOOOH!
ext Wed 11:57

Hmm.
Jim85 Wed 11:58

Hey
Wed 11:58

So?
SteamedHams Wed 11:58

There is similar item in Werewolves Item Extension
Jim85 Wed 11:58

Let ext talk please...
SteamedHams Wed 11:58

Wait lemme check what would it do
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:58

yes, ext, talk
ext Wed 11:58

Talk talk talk.
Wed 11:58

What do you want me to say?
Day2Claim Wed 11:58

people are curious about your guesswork
Jim85 Wed 11:58

How you came up with crypt thief.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:58

^This
Jim85 Wed 11:59

Stuff like that.
ext Wed 11:59

To confirm that I already knew/suspected that the CryptThief was the name of the role?
Jim85 Wed 11:59

yup
ext Wed 11:59

Then yes, I confirm that.
Jim85 Wed 11:59

Are you one yourself?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:59

How you came up with it...
ext Wed 11:59

I am.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 11:59

Finally
Day2Claim Wed 12:00

nice and straightforward
SteamedHams Wed 12:00

So 4 Thieves claimed?
Day2Claim Wed 12:00

2/2
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:00

Why didn't you just tell us from the start? Would have saved us some time
SteamedHams Wed 12:00

Archy and ext being Crypt Thief
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:00

Yeah 2 regular, 2 crypt
Wed 12:00

With a 3rd regular hiding somewhere :P
Day2Claim Wed 12:00

we still have a large amount of people who haven't spoken today
Wed 12:00

so there's probably more
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:00

It's only 3 hours into the day though
Day2Claim Wed 12:00

exactly
Jim85 Wed 12:00

Possibly more than just a 3rd regular...
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:00

yeah
ext Wed 12:01

I suppose I didn't really think everyone claiming D2 was an optimum strategy.
SteamedHams Wed 12:01

Just checked the item similar to Werewolves Card Game Artifact
Wed 12:01

Would get the same power as BH
ext Wed 12:01

Also, fwiw, I tried to crypt-thieve ASV last night and got no result this morning.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:01

Yeah, but when you guess a new role name out of nowhere like that, an explanation is usually nice
ext Wed 12:01

I mean, Grave -> Crypt, Robber -> Thief.
Wed 12:01

It seemed a plausible guess :P
Jim85 Wed 12:02

At least there is now a better reason for the multiple corpses than just 2 revenants plus a random extra corpse.
Day2Claim Wed 12:02

treasure!
ext Wed 12:02

Just another thought, we shouldn't assume that all thieves are necessarily on the side of the village.
Jim85 Wed 12:02

I suspect the revenant can use only three corpses to revive and the others to hide items.
Day2Claim Wed 12:02

agreed ext
Wed 12:03

but, they wouldn't just be called the same surely
Jim85 Wed 12:03

Which is why I suspect MS Wolf.
ext Wed 12:03

If only village can steal items, and evils have no way to regain them then... idk.
Day2Claim Wed 12:03

woof-theif, necro-burgle
Wed 12:03

or some shit
ext Wed 12:04

SpectralThief. RottingThief. FurryThief.
Wed 12:04

Maybe not the last one.
Wed 12:04

HowlingThief.
Day2Claim Wed 12:04

stealth isn't their game.
Jim85 Wed 12:04

At least Kirk tried to work out with Archy how the process worked of getting an item, getting it stolen, stealing it, finding out what it was...
Wed 12:05

I also agree Archy might be an evil crypt thief.
Wed 12:05

Digging wolf...
Day2Claim Wed 12:05

I also don't buy the whole system explained by MS
Wed 12:05

just seems weird
Wed 12:05

player knows the item is stolen, but the theif has to wait a whole day to find out what it is?
Wed 12:05

or if they were even successful
Jim85 Wed 12:05

To me it was more the evasion and talk about other games that were no longer free and shit like that.
Day2Claim Wed 12:05

In fairness
Wed 12:05

I started that with the scapegoat talk stuff
Jim85 Wed 12:05

You did that too, yes.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:06

Jim85, why do you suspect me so much?
Jim85 Wed 12:06

And you're leading with 3 votes.
Day2Claim Wed 12:06

I did legit think scapegoat was a plausible addition to the mix though
Wed 12:06

still do actually
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:06

@Day2Claim, Kirk has said the exact same thing, the Crypt Thieves are also saying the same hing, we aren't told right away
Day2Claim Wed 12:07

are you running your items through a fence or something?
Wed 12:07

it just seems weird
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:07

I know
Jim85 Wed 12:07

MapleSyrup, I find what you have said about thieves being confusing and leaving them be less convincing.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:07

Do you think I expected this?
Jim85 Wed 12:07

They seem to be the new flavour of the month.
Day2Claim Wed 12:07

Right, I really need to go now
Jim85 Wed 12:07

Be generous.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:07

Jim... it's because we aren't told anything, almost everything we know is from other villagers
Wed 12:07

or evils, idk
Day2Claim Wed 12:07

have fun, I expect to have multiple Gym signups by the time I get back
Jim85 Wed 12:08

Then we can at least speculate when you will be able to see what item you've stolen.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:08

Point is, we aren't told anything except "You steal stuff" and "Normal Protection doesn't stop you"
Jim85 Wed 12:08

If at all.
NotSus Wed 12:08

Excuse me
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:08

We will see tonight
NotSus Wed 12:08

Why do i have 2 votes?
Wed 12:08

Hm?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:08

Don't ask me
Jim85 Wed 12:09

Maybe thieves don't see what they've stolen because it isn't their item so they don't understand it.
NotSus Wed 12:09

...
Moderator Wed 12:09

NotSus votes to lynch WaterTrousers
NotSus Wed 12:09

4 fun
Wed 12:09

:3
Jim85 Wed 12:09

But MapleSyrup can you tell us how you can pass items on?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:09

We are told at night according to Kirk, I don't know why
Infected Wed 12:09

I forgot to use
NotSus Wed 12:09

I will be back to change so you guys dont need to panic
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:09

You are looking at me for answers that I don't have
Jim85 Wed 12:10

Infected, you've said that before, haven't you?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:10

No I can not Jim
SteamedHams Wed 12:10

Im going to asv first. But don't worry, you will get steamed hams after
NotSus Wed 12:10

Oi syrup did we got claims?
Moderator Wed 12:10

SteamedHams votes to lynch Hives
Infected Wed 12:10

I can't tell too many messages
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:10

I haven't even seen an item, people are saying it's in their role info or something I have no idea
Infected Wed 12:10

Can someone say the claims
Moderator Wed 12:10

Infected votes to lynch GoodBoi
Jim85 Wed 12:10

Infected Wed 10:49 I forgot to use
Wed 12:10

Now why would you say that again?
Infected Wed 12:10

How you find that
Jim85 Wed 12:11

Didn't make sense in the first place.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:11

@NotSus, KirkStein and I claimed Thieves, ext and Archy claimed Crypt Thieves. There is another Thief somewhere, but we don't know who
Infected Wed 12:11

I forgot to use my ability :(
NotSus Wed 12:11

Alot of thives in this town
SteamedHams Wed 12:11

Crypt Thieves - thieves who steal items from GY
NotSus Wed 12:11

Syrup
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:11

Yeah
ext Wed 12:11

Infected, what ability is that?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:11

I know man
SteamedHams Wed 12:11

What's your ability?
NotSus Wed 12:11

Explain thieves
Wed 12:11

Plz
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:11

We steal items
Infected Wed 12:11

I don't want to claim my role
ext Wed 12:11

We steal items.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:11

That's it
NotSus Wed 12:11

From living?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:12

Yes
ext Wed 12:12

Infected, then why did you tell us you have an ability?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:12

Only from living
Infected Wed 12:12

Becos
Jim85 Wed 12:12

Infected, you wouldn't draw attention to yourself like that for village reasons surely?
NotSus Wed 12:12

I qould hope u r the real syrup lol
ext Wed 12:12

Thieves -> From Living; CryptTheives -> From Dead.
Infected Wed 12:12

It's bad if I say when I claim I didn't use it
SteamedHams Wed 12:12

Why would you even declare you didnt use your ability lol
NotSus Wed 12:12

Lol
Jim85 Wed 12:12

banshee
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:12

lol
NotSus Wed 12:12

Infected would get rob hard tonight
Infected Wed 12:12

If I say now then people will understand when I properly xlaim
NotSus Wed 12:12

Like real hard lmao
Wed 12:13

Barricade ur door infect
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:13

And as far as I can tell, we steal all items our target has
NotSus Wed 12:13

Alright
Jim85 Wed 12:13

Can a target have more than one?
NotSus Wed 12:13

did you succesfully done it syrup?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:13

No idea
NotSus Wed 12:13

Hm?
Jim85 Wed 12:13

He already said he didn't know.
Wed 12:13

Like Kirk did.
NotSus Wed 12:14

Ok
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:14

We don't get feedback in the morning, we're told at night
NotSus Wed 12:14

Alright
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:14

I assume it's just a message declaring I have an item like the others had N1?
NotSus Wed 12:14

It os just me or the keyboard is really lagging
Infected Wed 12:14

Sorry
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:14

If I have one of course
SteamedHams Wed 12:15

Do you just steal items or you have options to give it to other?
NotSus Wed 12:16

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Wed 12:16

Oh
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:16

I don't know
NotSus Wed 12:16

That was wierd
SteamedHams Wed 12:16

Like lend 1 for a day
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:16

I know I can steal one, but I don't know about giving away
Wed 12:16

People with items are saying you can give them away, so Idk, maybe?
Wed 12:17

Probably?
NotSus Wed 12:17

I think it is like role stealing
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:17

No
NotSus Wed 12:17

But with item
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:17

Actual items
Wed 12:17

Okay yeah
Wed 12:17

But it can be passed on, and I can probably have several at once
NotSus Wed 12:17

If syrup successfully robbed then he can use it
Wed 12:18

He will have a discription if he robbed sucess
Wed 12:18

I think
ImmortlOne Wed 12:18

Notsus, I hope that's not a code of some sort
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:18

I guess yeah
NotSus Wed 12:18

So maybe syrup did not robbed the right person
Wed 12:18

I said earlier my keyboard is lagging
Wed 12:19

Idk know why
Jim85 Wed 12:19

Maple Syrup and Kirk, makes sense if you let us know tomorrow morning if you did get a specification of an item and if you could pass it on.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:19

Maybe, I'll find out tonight/when my target gets on
Wed 12:19

Yeah, of course
NotSus Wed 12:19

I think with just item robbing they will always be village alinged
Wed 12:20

We can trust these guys until something happen lol
Jim85 Wed 12:20

Not if evils can have items as well that they can't steal back.
Wed 12:20

Evils need their own thieves.
NotSus Wed 12:20

Maybe~
Archy Wed 12:21

Itd be nice if protector or huntsman can go on Kirsch, in case he gets zombified
Jim85 Wed 12:21

No reason a wolf can't have a blight seeing eye.
NotSus Wed 12:21

Is archy supposed to be archie?
Archy Wed 12:21

Yes
Wed 12:21

You fool
NotSus Wed 12:22

Lol
Jim85 Wed 12:22

You foo'
Wed 12:22

Caught a shift.
Archy Wed 12:22

Where's the fish? I should go back to grilling him
NotSus Wed 12:22

Good boi is phy i bet
Wed 12:22

xD
Archy Wed 12:23

Phy is evuls. Bad boo! >:D yaw!
Jim85 Wed 12:23

NotSus, this is why you have votes.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:23

Archy Wed 12:21 Itd be nice if protector or huntsman can go on Kirsch, in case he gets zombified | Kirsch?
Archy Wed 12:23

Kirk
Wed 12:23

Whatever
Wed 12:23

You know what I mean
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:23

But isn't he protected? With your item and all
NotSus Wed 12:23

LmAo dont vote me
Wed 12:24

I am not sus
Archy Wed 12:24

Oh
Wed 12:24

Fuck me I'm dense
Wed 12:24

Fuck me
Wed 12:24

I'm sorry, it's been a tiring day
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:24

haha it's ok
ImmortlOne Wed 12:24

given we have KirschSetup (who is dead, admittedly) let's try to be clear who we mean
NotSus Wed 12:25

We all forgive you my friend
Archy Wed 12:27

I suspect anyone can transfer items
Wed 12:27

Maybe Kirk can pass the wolf skin during future nights to intel roles
HeLicks Wed 12:28

I still want to know who stole my eye, it's hard to to see without an eye!
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:32

I do too HeLicks
Jim85 Wed 12:34

So we seem to have at least three thieves of which at least two have been successful last night. Random? Yup.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:34

Seems about right
Jim85 Wed 12:34

Again, should folks claim if they have an item? I find the odds of these successful burglaries a bit... odd.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:34

Idk
Wed 12:35

If the item is really powerul/important, maybe not
Wed 12:35

powerful*
Jim85 Wed 12:35

The two that were mentioned earlier sure seemed to be.
Wed 12:35

Do you reckon there'll be unimportant items?
Wed 12:36

And if you have a chance of stealing something useful and you hit an empty house, and you're village, then what?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:37

Hm? What do you mean?
HeLicks Wed 12:38

I think that theives who are successful at getting "Active" items should look at handing them out at least, especially things like the de-blighting eye, we want to make sure that gets used at night
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:38

fair
HeLicks Wed 12:38

(No point in theives hoarding lots of items if they can only use 1 at a time for example)
Wed 12:39

Who to give them to is a different question of course
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:39

The question is, how fast are people informed that they were given an item :P
HeLicks Wed 12:39

I assume you only learn at night about items, even those of us who started with them only found out at night
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:39

Joking aside, I wonder if all items are unique, or if there are duplivates
Wed 12:40

duplicates*
Wed 12:40

Okay fair
Wed 12:41

I think Thieves should at least be told it was succesfull, it doesn't have to say "You stole [Item], [Description] etc." But just a "You stole an Item" or "When you went to [Target]'s House to steal something, there was nothing to steal"
Jim85 Wed 12:46

But this isn't the case right now, right?
Wed 12:47

HeLicks, do you think passive items can be hoarded and used at the same time?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:49

Jim85 Wed 12:46 But this isn't the case right now, right? | It's not no
Jim85 Wed 12:50

Syrup, whaddya think of Infected?
ImmortlOne Wed 12:51

if Thieves can steal from Thieves and items are stackable, the Thieves who claim to be villagers should be VERY wary about stocking items too high - my suggestion is that items are distributed to those the Thieves trust.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:51

Hmm, I've seen players say they forgot to use their ability before, if anything I almost believe them more because of this, most evil players wouldn't draw attention to themselves like this. Preparing like this is not a bad idea
ImmortlOne Wed 12:51

the danger is that a non-village thief could just steal everything a village-thief holds
Archy Wed 12:52

Indeed
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:52

If there are non-village thieves, absolutely
Archy Wed 12:52

I'm back for a while
Cat Wed 12:52

*meow*
Archy Wed 12:52

You get my asv
Moderator Wed 12:52

Archy votes to lynch Cat
OptimusStein Wed 12:52

could be worth recruiting one if there are any 2 member subfactions about
Cat Wed 12:52

Reading all this...
Wed 12:52

thanks Archy
OptimusStein Wed 12:52

not sure about a solo subfaction leader trying though
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:53

Yeah, that's actually a good idea, then the items could be distributed among the subfaction members
ImmortlOne Wed 12:53

yeah I wouldn't recruit the thieves, in the same way I don't fully trust any of them
Cat Wed 12:53

The item stuff seems interesting, I just wonder if this is all really village aligned.
ImmortlOne Wed 12:53

too risky IMO
Cat Wed 12:53

what the One said...
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 12:53

meh
Archy Wed 12:53

I can argue about the are thieves village aligned thing
Wed 12:54

Wait, I can't
Wed 12:54

Nvm
OptimusStein Wed 12:54

stealing items from the dead seems more a villagey role than stealing from eachother
Archy Wed 12:54

Yes, I create something from nothing
OptimusStein Wed 12:54

although personally still wary of the wolf pelt vs steel armour similarity
Cat Wed 12:54

I'm skeptic about the "armour" which appears to be the same as the wolf pelt just betta?
Wed 12:55

stop stealing my thoughts
Archy Wed 12:55

Idk, he could be lying, I don't know
ImmortlOne Wed 12:55

I still think they're different enough to have different names
Jim85 Wed 12:55

Is there maybe a techie reason for items to have unique names?
SteamedHams Wed 12:55

Maybe Wolf Pelt is an item that makes you Invisible to the eyes of Wolves?
Jim85 Wed 12:55

To avoid Lore bug stuff
Archy Wed 12:55

It did say it could make me immune to one night kills
SteamedHams Wed 12:55

Like a camouflage? But i dunno how would that work
Cat Wed 12:55

asv
Archy Wed 12:55

Didn't say from what night kills specifically
Moderator Wed 12:55

Cat votes to lynch the_player
Archy Wed 12:56

So I assume against all night kills
Cat Wed 12:56

I should work, but I'm scared of catching up to the talk again...
Pieton Wed 12:57

If you have an item, you can give it away
Jim85 Wed 12:57

You know this from your own experience?
Archy Wed 12:57

Pieton!
Pieton Wed 12:58

Yes
Wed 12:58

I didn't give mine away, but I could have done.
Archy Wed 12:58

Wat
Jim85 Wed 12:58

Don't say what it is.
Archy Wed 12:58

Was I the first one to mention items?
Jim85 Wed 12:58

Yes
Archy Wed 12:59

Yeah, so hopefully that means Portion can be inclined to trust me more.
Jim85 Wed 12:59

There are about 58 others listening in though.
Archy Wed 12:59

Pieton#
Jim85 Wed 12:59

Doh
Pieton Wed 12:59

I don't think only Goods have items, that would be unreasonable
Archy Wed 12:59

Alright, fair point
Pieton Wed 13:00

I would suspect, btw, that the Wolf Pelt would protect only against Wolf kills. Whereas Steel Armour may protect against all kills.
Archy Wed 13:00

That seems oddly unbalanced
ImmortlOne Wed 13:00

who says they have to be balanced?
Archy Wed 13:00

It makes steel armour much more desirable than wolf pelt
ImmortlOne Wed 13:00

if they were balanced, it would make LESS sense
Jim85 Wed 13:01

Maybe armour works only until it has sustained a number of attacks.
ImmortlOne Wed 13:01

of course some items are more desirable than others....
Archy Wed 13:01

Huntsman and protector both have their merits
Wed 13:01

I'd like to think that if both items perform similar functions, they must have their pros and cons
Jim85 Wed 13:01

And a pelt makes you invisible to wolves.
Wed 13:01

But makes you show up as a wolf to a seer...
SteamedHams Wed 13:02

Could be, Jim
ImmortlOne Wed 13:02

even if one item is 10x better than the other, it still makes sense
Bugtician Wed 13:02

I think I'd rather be invisible to wolves and take the downside
TK241 Wed 13:02

well when the pelt falls in to wolf hands then it can get funny
Pieton Wed 13:03

I would also suggest that Evils probably steal items if they kill someone holding one, rather than fundamentally needing their own thieves, though I suspect a Coven Thief would make sense due to their lack of kills
Jim85 Wed 13:03

But you wouldn't be invisible to vampires, undead, demons?
Pieton Wed 13:03

That was my assumption
Archy Wed 13:03

@pieton, that makes my role obsolete, so I disagree
Pieton Wed 13:03

You can lynch people with items :)
Jim85 Wed 13:03

OOOOOOhhh
Pieton Wed 13:04

If Evils don't steal items from people with them, then I think you're role is even more likely to be Evil!
Archy Wed 13:04

Why so?
Pieton Wed 13:04

Because how else are Evils meant to get items?
Bugtician Wed 13:04

What would be the point of a village aligned thief role that just steals items from other village
Wed 13:04

evils must have items too
Archy Wed 13:04

By making people with items think they are good, hence give the items to evils?
Bugtician Wed 13:04

if your role is village aligned
Pieton Wed 13:04

Like, if Goods agree never to pass items, then only items that started with Evils would stay there?
Archy Wed 13:04

IF
Wed 13:04

That's a big if
Wed 13:05

I would definitely give it to a lit seer
Pieton Wed 13:05

Let's not pass items then, if you're Good.
ImmortlOne Wed 13:05

I will make my point again - items should be passed instead of stacked IMo
Pieton Wed 13:05

If you have mechanical confirmation that they're lit, then you're not risking passing it to an Evil.
Archy Wed 13:05

I'm not going to go against the villages greater good for the sake of an argument
ImmortlOne Wed 13:05

if you stack them, and you get stolen from, you lose everything you stacked, we think
TK241 Wed 13:05

yeah i agree with distribution over all eggs in one basket
Pieton Wed 13:05

I agree
TK241 Wed 13:05

especially night protection items
Pieton Wed 13:05

But I have one item.
Wed 13:05

So I'm fine
Jim85 Wed 13:06

Pieton's point about evils acquiring items by attacking makes sense. Then a thief could also find out who killed so-and-so by finding a previously noted item in the killer's possession.
Pieton Wed 13:06

But yeah, I would be stunned if Evil don't inherit items from people they kill.
SteamedHams Wed 13:06

Or Maybe 1 item stolen only if you have stacked stolen items
ImmortlOne Wed 13:06

Pie - you agree with me, but still state "don't pass items"?
Wed 13:06

that doesn't make sense
Archy Wed 13:06

Alright, I'll agree to disagree with the majority
Jim85 Wed 13:07

I think items can maybe be used to identify owners?
Pieton Wed 13:07

I agree to not hoard items
Jim85 Wed 13:07

So to catch shifts etc.?
Pieton Wed 13:07

I have one item.
Archy Wed 13:07

Jim, good point
Jim85 Wed 13:07

So let's say, Pieton has got a rake.
Archy Wed 13:07

Unless robbers can steal even when they're dead, which I doubt
Pieton Wed 13:07

HOW DID U NO?"!£!!311
Jim85 Wed 13:08

I die in the night and Archy finds a rake in my crypt.
Wessiah Wed 13:08

Morning, Pieton why you so open about you having an item? Seems like the easiest way to get it stolen?
Jim85 Wed 13:08

Means I was a SS now living in Pieton.
Archy Wed 13:08

Could be, or you just had a rake but didn't tell us
Pieton Wed 13:08

There were questions about items being asked, my claiming having an item helped to clear it up.
ImmortlOne Wed 13:08

Maybe items can be dangerous
Destroy944 Wed 13:08

We should wait and what the thieves can do with the items tonight. Maybe we will get some more clue tonight or by that after.
Wessiah Wed 13:08

ok... and you're not worried?
Pieton Wed 13:09

Well, actually, I'll fully claim it, because I've hinted it anyway.
ImmortlOne Wed 13:09

"you hold a bomb which will go off on N3" and you can give it to people, or people can steal it from you
Jim85 Wed 13:09

It's a rake.
Wed 13:09

You're late.
Pieton Wed 13:09

I have a one-use crossbow, I'll be killing someone with it tonight.
Archy Wed 13:09

Oh god, I guess I'm dead
Jim85 Wed 13:09

Wut
Archy Wed 13:09

Sigh
Pieton Wed 13:09

That was the point of the threat :p
Archy Wed 13:09

He'll probably kill me with it, judging by the amount of shade he's been throwing at me
Jim85 Wed 13:10

I thought you said it could be used for lynching. That is a daytime activity.
Pieton Wed 13:10

I volunteer to be stalked tonight, btw, to see if a kill like that would be stalkable.
ImmortlOne Wed 13:10

IMO we treat this like a militia claim.. it's the same as a "I don't care if you stalk me killing someone tonight, as I've claimed a kill ability"
Wessiah Wed 13:10

Would be more fun to kill someone with a rake though, just saying
ImmortlOne Wed 13:10

lol Pie, good timing
Jim85 Wed 13:10

And I don't see any difference between having a crossbow as an item and being a militia...
Wed 13:10

Wait...
Wed 13:10

Oh.
ImmortlOne Wed 13:10

I like this as little as a militia claim
Pieton Wed 13:10

No, I said I want to either kill Archy tioday (by vote) or tonight (by crossbow)
Jim85 Wed 13:11

Pieton, do you claim a non-visiting role?
Archy Wed 13:11

You display inconsistency yourself Pie, and you blame me for it
Wed 13:11

Sigh
Pieton Wed 13:11

What's my inconsistency?
Destroy944 Wed 13:11

It's different as it can be stole
Archy Wed 13:11

Well, jokes on you when the game ends and I'm village
Pieton Wed 13:11

Jim - I claim nothing about my role
Archy Wed 13:11

It doesn't matter, jim
Pieton Wed 13:12

Miskills are a hazard of Werewolf.
Archy Wed 13:12

You either use an item or use your role ability
Bugtician Wed 13:12

We have to kill two people today and I think I would rather kill people not talking
Archy Wed 13:12

You can't do both at the same time
Pieton Wed 13:12

Hmm. That didn't seem to be what I inferred.
Jim85 Wed 13:12

This sounds a bit like that extension game "The Village" where some people have houses that give them daytime abilities, and others don't
Pieton Wed 13:12

Let me check.
Wed 13:13

The message is ambiguous
Bugtician Wed 13:13

In millers hollow you get abilities by being in certain houses at night - this is similar but instead of people moving between houses it's items moving between people
Wessiah Wed 13:13

Is there a way to verify Pieton? I mean the item will be gone if I understood it right?
Archy Wed 13:13

Wessiah, for all I know he could be an alphawolf so probably not
Wessiah Wed 13:13

sigh
Archy Wed 13:13

Even if you verified that he had an item you couldn't verify whether his role is village aligned or not
OptimusStein Wed 13:14

you sure about killing archy? getting items off the dead sounds pretty useful. i'm starting to doubt the theives more since why would we need stealing when we can hand over by choice?
Destroy944 Wed 13:14

The used items can be stole or not?
Wessiah Wed 13:14

I suppose it's gone if one use?
Pieton Wed 13:14

There is a switch functionality, in terms of using the item, like how the Shaman/Harpy/Vamp can switch between powers. But Harpy and Shaman can use both and it isn't clear whether I can.
Archy Wed 13:14

Well, I can hand em over
Wed 13:14

I don't know if the others can
OptimusStein Wed 13:14

i'd imagine they vanish
Archy Wed 13:14

Possibly just to steal items from evils
OptimusStein Wed 13:14

oh, true!
Wed 13:15

still no sign of helick's eye
Jim85 Wed 13:15

It might be good if Pieton hands over his used crossbow so we can verify it.
Pieton Wed 13:15

Still time for later people to come on.
Wed 13:15

Happy to do that if it still exists, Jim.
Jim85 Wed 13:15

I'd like to suggest shooting Infected with it instead of Archie though.
Archy Wed 13:15

Demonlord will probably want to kill the guy with the eye, so it makes sense that he doesn't want to reveal
Wessiah Wed 13:15

Archy you're CT right?
Archy Wed 13:16

CryptThief
Pieton Wed 13:16

I note your suggestion, Jim.
Destroy944 Wed 13:16

I will vote for someone just in case. Mod said votes is a must.
Jim85 Wed 13:16

Also for someone to purify her.
Wed 13:16

No, Destroy
Wessiah Wed 13:16

yeah, so why does Pieton want to shoot you and not an item thief?
Moderator Wed 13:16

Destroy944 votes to lynch Stronkman
Pieton Wed 13:16

As best as I can gather, Infected's issue is massive freeze via mobile
Jim85 Wed 13:16

Lynch is a must. It's different.
Archy Wed 13:16

Wessiah, cause Pieton susses me greatly for saying stuff wrongly by accident
Jim85 Wed 13:16

If we go for balance, then random people will be lynched.
Pieton Wed 13:16

Wessiah - Because Archy has been inconsistent in their information
Wessiah Wed 13:17

CT seems less malicious to me
Jim85 Wed 13:17

We must not go for balance.
Wessiah Wed 13:17

ah ok, so it's not about the actual role. kk
Destroy944 Wed 13:17

I still need to vote to avoid smite Jim.
Jim85 Wed 13:17

That's like inviting two Zealots round though.
Pieton Wed 13:17

Need to go to the doctor, back in a bit.
Wed 13:17

Destroy can always move his vote later
Archy Wed 13:17

I think I'll probably die
Wed 13:18

Pieton seems pretty fixated on my death
Wed 13:18

Oh well
Pieton Wed 13:18

I always think of an ASV as a placeholder, ensuring you have voted, not here is my final vote of the day it is an asv
Moderator Wed 13:18

Wessiah votes to lynch Pieton
Jim85 Wed 13:18

Pieton, just tell us if you can visit, crossbow or no.
Pieton Wed 13:18

Jim, I am giving you zero information about my role and I don't know why you would ask.
Archy Wed 13:18

I sense _____ from Jim
Wessiah Wed 13:18

not really an asv, up for consideration...
SteamedHams Wed 13:18

sense what?
Destroy944 Wed 13:19

blank
SteamedHams Wed 13:19

tell us and you get steamed hams for free
Destroy944 Wed 13:19

blank
Archy Wed 13:19

Use common sense and you'll figure it out
Jim85 Wed 13:19

It makes it more likely Pieton is an AW if he can visit and there is a one-use item about which he hinted it may "vanish" after one use.
SteamedHams Wed 13:19

No. I want it to get it directly from you
Jim85 Wed 13:19

If he can't visit but still manages to kill whoever...
Pieton Wed 13:19

That's actually fair
Giovannigirll Wed 13:19

anti smites, still reading. Mail said dont get smitey
Jim85 Wed 13:20

Then a stalk would help verify this item.
Moderator Wed 13:20

Giovannigirll votes to lynch Wessiah
Wessiah Wed 13:20

Good luck with that Gio..
Archy Wed 13:21

Jim, could you go into the specifics?
Pieton Wed 13:21

Jim makes sense
Jim85 Wed 13:21

I just did?
Pieton Wed 13:21

But it doesn't really prove anything either way
Archy Wed 13:21

Well, I foresee a few issues
Wessiah Wed 13:21

See my vote, I think it's a valid consideration
Archy Wed 13:21

1. A person who uses his item can't use his role ability at the same time
Jim85 Wed 13:21

Don't get me wrong, I don't want Archy lynched at this moment.
Pieton Wed 13:21

As if I am a role that can't visit, then I still could use my one-time AW kill and then not visit any more
Wed 13:22

Archy - I still don't think 1 is correct unless you have been told this separately by mod.
Archy Wed 13:22

I just know
Wed 13:22

I think you should as well, but I might be wrong
Jim85 Wed 13:22

Hm
Wed 13:22

"I just know"
Wed 13:23

Anyway, continue with 2.?
Archy Wed 13:23

I don't want to go into role specifications, and what the moderator tells me in my role info
Bugtician Wed 13:23

Maybe some items you can, some you can't (or some roles you can, some you can't)
Pieton Wed 13:23

The message I was given did not say that I had to choose between using an item and a role power
Wed 13:23

Bah, I need to go
Wed 13:23

Stupid games making me want to do nothing but sit here and talk.
Archy Wed 13:24

Wait, nvm
Wed 13:24

I might have misunderstood what the moderator said
Jim85 Wed 13:24

Pieton Wed 13:21 As if I am a role that can't visit, then I still could use my one-time AW kill and then not visit any more
Wed 13:25

An AW is seen visiting when they enrage, right?
Pieton Wed 13:25

Yes
Archy Wed 13:25

indeed
Destroy944 Wed 13:25

Sound like Militia claim for me
Archy Wed 13:25

but we don't know if one visits when they uses the crossbow
Pieton Wed 13:25

(goddammit let me gooooooooooooooo)
Archy Wed 13:25

Even if we did
Jim85 Wed 13:25

So you can sort of prove you're not an AW if you get a stalker on you yet your target dies from your crossbow.
Wessiah Wed 13:25

I'll let you go for the moment
Moderator Wed 13:25

Wessiah votes to lynch MilitXII
Archy Wed 13:25

but we don't know if one visits when they use the crossbow
Wessiah Wed 13:26

for mind peace
Jim85 Wed 13:26

Visits depend on the role I guess.
Pieton Wed 13:26

How would the Stalker know how I killed someone? They'd just (potentially) see me visit someone who died.
Archy Wed 13:26

Even if we did know, pieton could just not visit and ask his wolf friend to do it for him
Jim85 Wed 13:26

A non-visiting role would not be seen visiting just because they have a crossbow?
Archy Wed 13:26

That depends on our interpretation
Pieton Wed 13:26

Could be Crossbow, could be AW kill.
Archy Wed 13:26

Which could differ
Pieton Wed 13:27

We're suggesting that a Stalker might see people visit if they use items
Archy Wed 13:27

^
Jim85 Wed 13:27

If we assume I am a vanilla villager. No sw or insomniac.
Wed 13:27

And I have a crossbow, which I use.
FirstSeerCheck Wed 13:27

Wow this is a lot to read. I hope someone do a recap at the end of the day.
Archy Wed 13:27

READ IT ALL
Jim85 Wed 13:27

Am I then seen visiting by a stalker? Or harlot?
Archy Wed 13:27

Lazy wolf
Pieton Wed 13:27

I hope you read it all, First
Wed 13:27

We don't know Jim.
Archy Wed 13:27

It's possible
Pieton Wed 13:27

This is the question in hand
Archy Wed 13:27

If you use the crossbow that night
Destroy944 Wed 13:27

AW won't kill to early. They can, but that not really good strategies as BH might hit some good role to use to.
FirstSeerCheck Wed 13:28

Yes i will read it
Archy Wed 13:28

Well, I don't see the harm in using the AW kill to prove one member of the wolfpack lit
Pieton Wed 13:28

(going, really really going now)
Destroy944 Wed 13:28

That just my opinion.
FirstSeerCheck Wed 13:28

But I might need a recap to better understand at the end of the day.
MobileClient Wed 13:28

Items and thieves
Wed 13:28

https://66.media.tumblr.com/47e8749a58040b54ceb47e43823db116/tumblr_n26mv8CW2T1s2wio8o5_500.gif
Archy Wed 13:28

Well, you might not get one
Wed 13:29

Unfortunately
FirstSeerCheck Wed 13:29

Is crossbow one the items we are talking about?
Jim85 Wed 13:29

Yes, and a blight eye, steel armour and a wolf pelt.
FirstSeerCheck Wed 13:29

Who owns it?
MobileClient Wed 13:29

Seems so, a wolf pelt and armor were also mentioned
Jim85 Wed 13:29

Wolf, lazy question.
Wed 13:29

DIY
Archy Wed 13:29

Kirk claims to have stolen my wolf pelt
FirstSeerCheck Wed 13:29

:(
Wed 13:29

Alright
Jim85 Wed 13:29

It's not far up above.
FirstSeerCheck Wed 13:30

Alright.
Bugtician Wed 13:31

I mean I don't know why some people have just come out and said they have these items
Wed 13:31

espeically the eye
MobileClient Wed 13:32

well, the eye got stolen
Bugtician Wed 13:32

That would have been good information to keep from the demonlord though, right?
MobileClient Wed 13:32

so we dont know who has it
SteamedHams Wed 13:32

Recap: TomaToes claimed roleblocked; New role claimed (Thief = Regular (Kirk and Maple) and Crypt (ext and Archy)); Another "Thief" who isnt claimed yet stole HeLicks' eye
Bugtician Wed 13:32

I'm talking about them knowing it even exists
Wed 13:33

that would have been good to keep quiet about
Wed 13:33

I also wonder if there is something/someone that breaks items?
MobileClient Wed 13:33

Probably, what changes for the demonlord if he knows about the eye? will he start igniting more frequently?
Archy Wed 13:34

just ignite the guy with the eye
Bugtician Wed 13:34

He/she will be less confident about how many blights they have
Wed 13:34

We want them to have false confidence about how many blights they have
MobileClient Wed 13:36

But doesnt the demonlord know who is blighted?
Wed 13:36

I always thought he has a mark like a witch hunter
Bugtician Wed 13:36

I don't know I've never been the demon lord
Archy Wed 13:36

Hmm, fair point
Bugtician Wed 13:36

I guess they would
Archy Wed 13:37

it would be nice to know whether or not the person with 'the eye' could remove the blight on himself
Wed 13:37

actually, scrap that
Bugtician Wed 13:37

Presumably they can
Birb Wed 13:49

I'm kind of annoyed that the eye was revealed as an item
Wed 13:49

Not sure why making that public would help
Bugtician Wed 13:52

It doesn't really, though i suppose it confirms the presence of the demonlord
Wed 13:52

or some other role that "blights"
Day2Claim Wed 13:53

mildly skimmed through to see what I missed
Wed 13:53

Jim seems to still be agro
Stronkman Wed 13:53

good morning
Day2Claim Wed 13:53

and everyone is still confused about items
Jim85 Wed 13:53

Hmmmm?
Stronkman Wed 13:54

oh my god i really got that nasty avatar?
Day2Claim Wed 13:54

You seem to be sus on people Jim
Wed 13:54

not that you yourself are sus
Stronkman Wed 13:54

i can't read everything guys, do we know something more part from that roleblocking?
Day2Claim Wed 13:54

that's how I'm reading it anyway
Birb Wed 13:54

I'm sus of Water for starting the lynch train without saying why
Day2Claim Wed 13:55

Stronkman, you are welcome to join my gym.
Jim85 Wed 13:55

Well, if it is a given that two people will be lynched tonight I'd like to make sure we lynch sus people.
Wed 13:55

And Birb, you annoy me.
Day2Claim Wed 13:55

savage
Jim85 Wed 13:55

"Lynch train". pffft.
Birb Wed 13:55

Do I give a fuck?
Jim85 Wed 13:55

No you don't
Stronkman Wed 13:55

i will i had some more muscles than that
Bugtician Wed 13:55

I would like to lynch people who are not talking, rather than people who are
Wed 13:56

Too early for sus i think
Jim85 Wed 13:56

Let's lynch NewFaction. They don't talk much anyway.
Bugtician Wed 13:56

It's too early to tell, I'm not going to vote until later tonight
Day2Claim Wed 13:56

did you just randomly pick a non talker / low talker?
Jim85 Wed 13:56

jk
Stronkman Wed 13:56

if one does not vote twice in a row, he gets smited?
Bugtician Wed 13:56

Correct
Day2Claim Wed 13:57

unless they are strongerman
Wed 13:57

they get 3 days
Stronkman Wed 13:57

and why we are killing you :D ?
Jim85 Wed 13:57

Stronkman, is this your first game or something?
Day2Claim Wed 13:57

people demanded I claim before I was awake, so that was 2 votes on me
Birb Wed 13:57

Stronkman needs to work on his brains more than his gains
Day2Claim Wed 13:57

the 3rd one was for my shitpost about building a gym or something
Jim85 Wed 13:58

Stronkman needs to grow balls.
Stronkman Wed 13:58

oh, i have a vote
Wed 13:58

i guess i'll vote someone with 0 votes too for now
Moderator Wed 13:58

Stronkman votes to lynch TruthVagina
Birb Wed 13:58

Whenever Day2Claim talks, I'm tron between "Day to Claim" and D2 claim
Stronkman Wed 13:58

I guess that name deserve a vote after all
Birb Wed 13:58

Which is it
Day2Claim Wed 13:58

that sentence was wonderful
Bugtician Wed 13:58

Prety sure it's Day 2 claim
Day2Claim Wed 13:58

Stronkman and TruthVagina needs to become a tv show
Bugtician Wed 13:58

D2 claim
Stronkman Wed 13:59

ah, now i get it
Jim85 Wed 13:59

Stronkman must realise that everyone here knows how smites work?
Birb Wed 13:59

Bugtician: I like that it could be either
Stronkman Wed 13:59

they want you to claim because your name is Day2Claim :D
Birb Wed 14:00

*Toots horn* PUPPETO SENOR
Day2Claim Wed 14:00

I think they were mostly joking, but they did put votes on me..
Archy Wed 14:00

There's FOUR puppets btw
Day2Claim Wed 14:00

anyway, back later
Archy Wed 14:00

Just so you know
Wed 14:00

Puppetmaster must be fucked
Bugtician Wed 14:00

Or two puppetmasters
Birb Wed 14:00

Oof
Archy Wed 14:00

True, but mark once said two puppetmasters would break the game
Wed 14:00

So I doubt that would happen
Bugtician Wed 14:01

But this is 300, maybe he fixed it
Jim85 Wed 14:01

There has been a PM with 3 puppets before.
Stronkman Wed 14:01

how mucn drunkards do you think are in this game?
Archy Wed 14:01

Mark fixes something?!!
Stronkman Wed 14:01

(how many)
Bugtician Wed 14:01

Maybe it's puppetmaster and marionette lord
Archy Wed 14:01

its not called marionette1
Wed 14:01

its called puppet1 puppet2 puppet3 and puppet4
Jim85 Wed 14:02

And Stronkman is one of them I think.
Bugtician Wed 14:02

How do you know, Archy?
Wed 14:02

Have I missed something
Stronkman Wed 14:02

aha, we got you
Wed 14:03

puppeteer confirmed
Birb Wed 14:03

Not sure why Archy is so sure of everything
Wed 14:03

Could be zomboos
Jim85 Wed 14:03

Depends on how many corpses the revenant has to revive.
Wed 14:04

If it is a normal revenant, there may be 3 puppets and 1 zombie called puppet4 or something.
Archy Wed 14:04

its called api
Wed 14:04

There's 7 corpses
Jim85 Wed 14:05

Yes Archy but I think the idea is that we have previously had a puppet3 called zombie.
Stronkman Wed 14:05

So no info apart one roleblock?
Jim85 Wed 14:05

So you can't entirely trust the api.
Archy Wed 14:05

oh true
Pieton Wed 14:05

Jim and Immortal are my trust team
Jim85 Wed 14:05

I'll take that as a compliment.
Wed 14:05

I hope to be able to return it soon ;-)
SteveySav Wed 14:06

hey guys
Stronkman Wed 14:06

here comes the puppet
Pieton Wed 14:06

STEVEY
Moderator Wed 14:06

Jim85 votes to lynch Stronkman
Jim85 Wed 14:06

Hello Stevey
Stronkman Wed 14:07

oh well, now i guess i'll have to return the favor
Moderator Wed 14:07

Stronkman votes to lynch Jim85
Jim85 Wed 14:07

Ah my first vote! (blows a kiss)
Pieton Wed 14:07

(Does anyone do the old fake "hey Stevey, RobSeer says they saw you visiting EmoCrayon, what do you say?" kind of stuff)
SteveySav Wed 14:08

hmm
Jim85 Wed 14:08

I can if you want...
Pieton Wed 14:08

Well, I imagine Stevey isn't going to fall for it right now...
Jim85 Wed 14:09

It doesn't seem like it.
Pieton Wed 14:09

I like that stuff as reaction testing, but I know others are not fond of it
Jim85 Wed 14:09

I imagine he's not gonna do an awful lot. Period.
Pieton Wed 14:10

Nah, I reckon Stevey has something big for us.
Wed 14:10

And if not, then we shall kill him for being disappointing.
Wed 14:10

This is the way of the jungle.
SteveySav Wed 14:11

.............
MilitXII Wed 14:22

Hello
SteveySav Wed 14:22

hey
MilitXII Wed 14:23

A lot of things to read lol
Arwooo Wed 14:30

hey there, how's the day going
bewseer27 Wed 14:31

Yee yee ass village with a double lynch.
Arwooo Wed 14:32

so we had 2 deaths last night?
Jim85 Wed 14:32

Hello
GoodBoi Wed 14:32

wow, hoped items would be secret, don't steal mine
Arwooo Wed 14:33

what's the item situation? there's far too much chat for me to sift through currently to catch up on
bewseer27 Wed 14:33

Do you seriously have an item or is that a joke?
GoodBoi Wed 14:33

obviously baiting
Wed 14:33

I'm a good boi
Jim85 Wed 14:34

No we didnt
bewseer27 Wed 14:34

Boi is good.
Jim85 Wed 14:34

@Arwooo
bewseer27 Wed 14:34

Good is boi.
Arwooo Wed 14:34

oh, then what's the death situation?
Wed 14:35

because i see 9 dead
Jim85 Wed 14:35

One died, one got smited for asking dumb questions.
Wed 14:35

muahahahahahaaaa
Arwooo Wed 14:35

really? death by dumb?
bewseer27 Wed 14:35

I expected more deaths last night to be frank.
GoodBoi Wed 14:35

You could at least read some you know
Moderator Wed 14:35

GoodBoi votes to lynch Arwooo
Moderator Wed 14:35

bewseer27 votes to lynch TheLoudOne
Arwooo Wed 14:36

i don't know where to even start reading, because i imagine the start of the day's not too useful
Moderator Wed 14:36

Arwooo votes to lynch TK241
Bugtician Wed 14:36

Actually it's been not much shitposting
bewseer27 Wed 14:36

Took me about 10 minutes on mobile to skim through.
Jim85 Wed 14:36

There is quite a lot of information and little shitposting thankfully
Arwooo Wed 14:36

that's good
Stronkman Wed 14:36

there's has been a roleblock claim at the start of the day
GoodBoi Wed 14:36

We started with items, so it was actually useful you kno
Stronkman Wed 14:36

but i have not read further :D way too much spam
Jim85 Wed 14:36

bewseer27 is lying though.
Wed 14:36

10 minutes? tsk
bewseer27 Wed 14:37

Correct.
Moderator Wed 14:37

Jim85 votes to lynch bewseer27
cakewolfy Wed 14:37

10 minutes is a short time to read all of this through.
Jim85 Wed 14:37

Not believing a digit of it.
Arwooo Wed 14:37

i'll try reading through it, im currently a bit busy
bewseer27 Wed 14:37

I skimmed.
Bugtician Wed 14:37

I could read it in 10 minutes
Wed 14:37

its not *that* much
Jim85 Wed 14:37

OK then.
Moderator Wed 14:37

Jim85 votes to lynch Stronkman
Jim85 Wed 14:38

Notice how Stronkman said "here comes the puppet" when SteveySav came in and behaved like a puppet?
ShameMcC Wed 14:38

Morning everyone. thankfully christmas is over but I have now been given the gift of having to read through all of this. brb.
bewseer27 Wed 14:38

I didn't really know what to think of that.
Wed 14:39

Just a joke? What is Stevey a reference to?
Stronkman Wed 14:39

oh well
Jim85 Wed 14:39

Well they'd have to be faction members for that joke to work I think?
Pieton Wed 14:39

Yeah, Stevey was weird
Moderator Wed 14:39

Pieton votes to lynch SteveySav
Jim85 Wed 14:39

So was Stronkman.
Stronkman Wed 14:39

i'm already voting Jim85 for stacking another vote on me, so i guess that's nothing to add to it :D
ShameMcC Wed 14:40

when it says that we have to lynch two people - do we know the consequences of not doing that?
Stronkman Wed 14:40

well, let's say that none votes and everyone is at 0
Pieton Wed 14:40

2 people will be lynched regardless, we cannot stop it
Wed 14:41

2 randoms will die in that case.
Stronkman Wed 14:41

i guess there would be two random linchs
cakewolfy Wed 14:41

I think the game then automatically choses randomly two out of the highest.
Bugtician Wed 14:41

We assume two people will be lynched at random
ShameMcC Wed 14:41

ahh I see
Pieton Wed 14:41

Bugtician cannot be a real player
Wed 14:41

Too many bugs
Moderator Wed 14:41

cakewolfy votes to lynch Cat
cakewolfy Wed 14:41

placeholder vote atm. subject to change.
bewseer27 Wed 14:42

Eloquently put.
Smirkvod Wed 14:43

My phone text speed is really tragic today on here, sorry for the lack of activity due to this. I’m also struggling to follow everything going on.
Moderator Wed 14:45

ShameMcC votes to lynch Infected
ShameMcC Wed 14:45

Sanitary vote for now.
Smirkvod Wed 14:46

Had to copy and paste that last message
bewseer27 Wed 14:47

I hadn't thought about how hard it would be for some mobile devices.
Wed 14:47

I'm not sure why mine is fine.
leader Wed 14:51

I am here and reading to catch up. This will be a normal time +/- a couple of hours for me to show up.
Arwooo Wed 14:52

alright so start of the day had mild info, and then it became theory-crafting
Wed 14:52

all i found that was really info was that toma claimed RB
the_player Wed 14:52

Infected forgot to use an ability apparently
Pieton Wed 14:53

No thoughts on the claims or the info about items, Arwoooo?
Arwooo Wed 14:54

i've not gotten to either of those yet
Wed 14:54

i saw something about a strongman claim, but i can't tell if that's referring to an older game or not
Pieton Wed 14:54

Oh, sorry, I thought you were saying you'd caught up.
Wed 14:54

I'll butt out, carry on
Moderator Wed 14:55

the_player votes to lynch ShameMcC
the_player Wed 14:55

ASV
Wed 14:55

why are there a bunch of 2 and 3 stacks?
SteveySav Wed 14:56

who voted me??
the_player Wed 14:56

for funsies?
Pieton Wed 14:56

Me!
Stronkman Wed 14:56

i made no claim, just the Jim85 brought my votes to 2 because i called someone a puppet as a joke and in his mind that suggest i'm coven :D
Pieton Wed 14:57

No, there will be two lynches today, the_player
the_player Wed 14:57

ty
Pieton Wed 14:57

So we need to decide who we're killing
Wed 14:57

Balance is not an option
the_player Wed 14:57

sounds like a tag line from a bad action movie
Wed 14:57

"Balance is not an option."
Wed 14:58

in that case I will reconsider the ASV
SteveySav Wed 14:58

hmm
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 14:58

Oh hey, more people
Arwooo Wed 14:59

okay so kirk claims a new role as thief, and archy claims he had a wolf pelt; issue is that following that, SGB said archy's not wolf; it could've been a counterintuitive placement of the item; MSW also claimed thief
Stronkman Wed 15:00

how the hell a thief works?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 15:00

We don't know either
Wed 15:00

:P
SteveySav Wed 15:00

I claim Drunk
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 15:00

We steal items
Wed 15:00

That's it
Arwooo Wed 15:01

archy seems to claim some thief version of grave robber
Stronkman Wed 15:01

and there are playeres who got items you can steal?
Pieton Wed 15:01

Yes, Stronk
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 15:01

I was thinking, Pieton says he has a one-shot crossbow, what if I steal it as he uses it, what would happen (not saying I'd do this, I'm just curious about what would happen
Wed 15:01

Yes
Pieton Wed 15:02

Yeah, I dunno, MSW
Stronkman Wed 15:02

well, the general rule is that you could not prevent the use
Wed 15:02

if he uses it in the same night
Pieton Wed 15:02

Pretty much anyone that tries to steal this off me is outed Evil though.
Arwooo Wed 15:02

i guess maple stole from licks, and kirk stole from archy
Pieton Wed 15:02

Harlot on me would seem a good idea.
Stronkman Wed 15:03

by the way, i have no items
Pieton Wed 15:03

Narrator: Stronkman actually did have items
Arwooo Wed 15:04

narrator: he was sweating heavily as he tried to hide the arsenal of items he had
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 15:04

@Arwooo, keep reading...
Arwooo Wed 15:04

i am still reading, it's slow-going due to how much there is
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 15:05

ah, in that case, I'll tell you now, I didn't steal from HeLicks, that was another thief
Wed 15:06

The person I tried to steal from came on, but barely said anything... hasn't mentioned anything being stolen yet...
Stronkman Wed 15:06

oh i see, strongman is the name of a role
Wed 15:06

that's why someone was talking about me earlier
Arwooo Wed 15:07

oh, maple didn't steal from licks (claim, anyway), so either it's a lie for some reason, or we have a third thief; D2C claimed strongerman, unsure if joke claim or not and he's just a strongman
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 15:08

hmm.. or I was redirected actually... that's possible
Pieton Wed 15:08

Joke, we think
Arwooo Wed 15:08

licks' item was a blight-seeing eye (whatever blight refers to in this ext)
HeLicks Wed 15:08

Bugtician / Birb (I think it was you guys) the reason I mentioned the blight-seeing-eye was beacuse I no longer have it (so am no longer a threat to the demonlord) but wanted to let people know - we have a demonlord. (Otherwise the eye is pointless)
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 15:08

D2C confirmed it was a joke
Arwooo Wed 15:09

opti claims having armor, which seems to just be a night kill protection
Pieton Wed 15:10

FYI, I am listening to I Get Wet by AWK, so you guys had best be in the party mood, because I'm totally hyped right now
Wed 15:10

YOU BETTER GET READY TO DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Arwooo Wed 15:11

by the way, i've not been reading the new messages while posting my things of reading through it, because i'm trying to not lose my spot XD
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 15:11

of course
Stronkman Wed 15:12

and thief are villagers?
the_player Wed 15:12

Good question
Pieton Wed 15:12

So they claim
the_player Wed 15:12

New faction: Thieve's Guild. (i'm juts making shit up, not a real thing)
Arwooo Wed 15:13

according to the scroll bar, i'm only halfway through the log, aaaaaaa
Moderator Wed 15:13

GuihmoDelToro votes to lynch cakewolfy
Stronkman Wed 15:14

the logical thing would be, they need to steal items to win
Wed 15:14

and by doing so they prevent the villagers from use them :D
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 15:14

@the_player, I wish haha
Wed 15:14

@Stronkman, again, I wish
Wed 15:15

I wish it was more interesting
Wed 15:15

Or clearer
Stronkman Wed 15:15

just saying
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 15:15

Not that Thief is not interesting, but not as much as an entire faction of Thieves or a seperate objective
Stronkman Wed 15:15

for now, that claim earn the benefit of trust
Kirkstein Wed 15:19

Oh i am here again
Arwooo Wed 15:19

alright is there anything beyond the halfway point? because it's painfully slow
Kirkstein Wed 15:20

Anything interesting happened?
Pieton Wed 15:20

I claim I have a one-shot crossbow and am threatening to kill Archy
Arwooo Wed 15:20

ah
Stronkman Wed 15:21

why? What he has done?
Arwooo Wed 15:21

been inconsistent on the info he seems to have about thieving
Pieton Wed 15:21

I found that he was inconsistent in what he had said
Stronkman Wed 15:21

Oh, ok
Pieton Wed 15:21

Including claiming that he was told about his item when the game started, when I was not told til N1
Stronkman Wed 15:22

Sound suspicious
Moderator Wed 15:22

Arwooo votes to lynch Archy
Arwooo Wed 15:22

hmm... yeah, it's a bit suspicious
Thanwwes Wed 15:22

have people with items claimed any other role? does an item give another ability?
Pieton Wed 15:22

But now I'm voting Stevey Sav for being generically sus
Arwooo Wed 15:23

items seem to be a variety thing; defense, active ability, attacking capability
Pieton Wed 15:23

My item effectively gives me a militia kill
Wed 15:23

But I have not claimed my role.
Stronkman Wed 15:23

well for now i keep vote the Jim85 who endangered me with 2 vote for practically 0 reason
Arwooo Wed 15:23

did the 2-vote happen while 2 votes was the highest count?
Wed 15:23

or while 3 was? because as it currently stands, you're not at risk
Stronkman Wed 15:23

no, it was 3 already
Arwooo Wed 15:24

three people at 3 votes, 2 is not dangerous unless sniped and then rolled in the "choose who dies" roulette
the_player Wed 15:24

@Thanwwes: so far i've seen the 'rent-a-militia' crossbow and someone mentioned armor of some type which is speculated as being a prot-like item
Stronkman Wed 15:24

not for now, but i'm not relaxed anyway
ImmortlOne Wed 15:24

I'll lol if the person lynched has 3 votes, in a 58 player game
Arwooo Wed 15:25

there was steel armor with optimus, which is a night kill protect; i assume it's a one-time item
the_player Wed 15:25

ty Arwoo
Wed 15:25

Arwooo
Arwooo Wed 15:25

there's the wolf pelt (or rather, skin as people have dubbed it for ease of remembering), which protects from wolves, but marks as wolf for seer
Wed 15:26

according to the sus archy, that is
Stronkman Wed 15:26

with so many people at 0 votes, i'm not ok with someone throwing a random accusation and put me at 2
Kirkstein Wed 15:26

Ok i read back
Arwooo Wed 15:27

i'm fully ready to believe that the pelt is an attempt by a wolf to either protect an ally, or throw sus on an innocent in case they're caught out
Kirkstein Wed 15:27

Yeah.. i think we need to live to see at least d4 to completelly understand these new roles.
Arwooo Wed 15:27

i look forward to the result of you finding out what the item is, kirk
Kirkstein Wed 15:27

Me too. i am really interested
Arwooo Wed 15:28

at the same time, i'm wondering if there's multiple redirecting roles, because if that's the case, you could've been redirected, and MSW could've been as well
Wed 15:28

which could mean that MSW could have ended up with the mystery pelt, and you with the eye
Thanwwes Wed 15:29

this makes validating role claims and such really hard
Wed 15:29

hopefully just village got items
Arwooo Wed 15:29

hopefully there's just village-aligned thieves
Wed 15:29

because it's heavily difficult to know without knowing for a fact that there's no redirecting
Stronkman Wed 15:30

oh well, if they are a new faction, they can probably talk at night
Wed 15:31

with each other, so they would have take some precaution to not say contradictory things
Wed 15:31

however for now i tend to trust them
Arwooo Wed 15:32

well if redirected, they're not going to know who they ended up stealing from instead i think, unless the message o f"you got an item" i assume they receive says "from ###" as well
Wed 15:33

because a redirected seer would see "### is %%%" instead of whomever they originally chose, being their own proof they were redirected
Wed 15:33

but a thief, depending on what the message is, either will or won't know
Stronkman Wed 15:33

Understood
Arwooo Wed 15:35

i guess it's time for the waiting game until either end of day, or new info
leader Wed 15:37

This took forever to read.
Arwooo Wed 15:38

painful level amount of content, but that's to be expected with 60 people
Moderator Wed 15:38

leader votes to lynch Pieton
Arwooo Wed 15:40

i'm guessing sus of some degree for the archy threatening? or is it just an asv?
Jim85 Wed 15:40

Arwooo, both claimed thieves have said they got no message at all about their thievery.
leader Wed 15:41

I do not see a justification for the claim on the night kill item, which who knows if it can be redirected. I also find the super aggressive nature to feel more like evil to me than good.
GuihmoDelToro Wed 15:42

oof, just finished reading
Pieton Wed 15:42

I had claimed I had an item
Wed 15:42

I was an obvious robbing target, so full disclosure is better than not
Wed 15:42

And given we have to lynch two people today, we need to be aggressive.
leader Wed 15:43

If we have to lynch someone, would an irresponsible aggressive person claiming a night kill item that has said "Miskills are a hazard of Werewolf," be a great choice?
SteamedHams Wed 15:43

And that would be?
leader Wed 15:43

PieTon who I voted for.
Pieton Wed 15:43

Crack on
leader Wed 15:44

I am just giving my reason for my vote.
GuihmoDelToro Wed 15:44

If it is random killing, the mod would not purposely kill one faction to extinction
bewseer27 Wed 15:44

"I am going to use my kill ability tonight," said the man that didn't believe Succubi were a real thing.
Pieton Wed 15:44

Voting me for my play style seems kind of meh though
GuihmoDelToro Wed 15:44

Like targeting one faction
leader Wed 15:45

I think you are a likely candidate for an evil player who was going to kill tonight and put in an excuse in advance.
Pieton Wed 15:45

You're wrong, but you're welcome to think that.
Wed 15:45

Bewseer - That's why I told a Harlot to be on me.
Arwooo Wed 15:45

so yeah, they won't know if they're redirected for any reason, like evil faction protecting their goods
leader Wed 15:46

I did not say I was sure, I said I thought it was a possibility. As you said, we need to lynch 2 people, and you are the top of my list so far.
Pieton Wed 15:46

I never said you were sure either
leader Wed 15:46

Also, we can avoid a possible redirected kill away from evil, because you decided to announce your kill ability.
Pieton Wed 15:46

They might redirect it to another Evil even if they choose to
Stronkman Wed 15:47

i'm ok with these facts
leader Wed 15:47

So lynching you avoids that, and since your ability comes from an item, the CryptThief can give it back to someone more responsible or use it when we have more info.
Stronkman Wed 15:47

however getting heat on whoever is talking while silent ones get away with everything...seems wrgon to me
Arwooo Wed 15:47

i feel pretty confident that there's multiple evil factions, so the villain factions would want to be rid of the others primarily
Wed 15:47

so even if the target evil isn't killed, a different one might be
Pieton Wed 15:48

As I've said Leader, you're welcome to vote how you wish. I think I'm pretty obviously playing for Good and I think you feel threatened by that.
Stronkman Wed 15:48

by the same reasoning, we should burn the thieves, because yes they claim their role
Wed 15:48

but who the hell know if they are really villegers or not?
HeLicks Wed 15:49

Well, good job we hopefully have some seers to confirm this
Arwooo Wed 15:49

that's... not what i'm getting from the reasoning here; i'm getting a thing of "he plans to use it with little information to work with, so we should be wary"
Wed 15:49

i'm going offline for now, be back later
WeWubMasons Wed 15:50

yeah, it's not as bad as a n1 militia kill but we really don't have the info to say killing Archy is a good idea
leader Wed 15:50

We can avoid one random night death by lynching PieTon if you believe their claims.
Pieton Wed 15:50

If you believe my claim, why the fuck would you lynch me?
HeLicks Wed 15:50

I think the best thing to do with the crossbow would be to give it away to an unnamed "trustworthy" person to use at a later date
WeWubMasons Wed 15:50

Yeah
Pieton Wed 15:51

I have already stated I am not passing my item
HeLicks Wed 15:51

why?
Pieton Wed 15:51

Because I am not putting a killing item into the hands of a possible Evil.
WeWubMasons Wed 15:51

Pieton, we don't know your real role, you're threatening to shoot someone who's quite possibly good aligned, if the item is used up afterwards we don't have it for when we need it...
Moderator Wed 15:51

WeWubMasons votes to lynch Pieton
HeLicks Wed 15:51

That's why I said trustworthy.
Wed 15:52

Not just a random person
Pieton Wed 15:52

And who do you suggest is trustworthy?
Stronkman Wed 15:52

and who would be this trustworthy person here :D ?
Pieton Wed 15:52

The most trustworthy person I have right now is me.
WeWubMasons Wed 15:52

We dont know yet, we need to save it for when we have more definite evils
MilitXII Wed 15:52

I cant read all the d2 chat
Pieton Wed 15:52

I trust my reads
HeLicks Wed 15:53

Well naming people makes them bad targets to be given the crossbot
Pieton Wed 15:53

Archy fumbled his story all over the place, that is a sign of an Evil to me.
Stronkman Wed 15:53

it's official that night role can visit graves, right?
WeWubMasons Wed 15:53

it's a new, seemingly confusing role. That's really not surprising to me.
leader Wed 15:53

I believe you coming out stating you are going to be killing someone tonight makes it more likely you are an evil.
Wed 15:54

I think you have gone out of your way to read sus into Archy's story, which is why I am reading you as evil.
Pieton Wed 15:54

Why?
Stronkman Wed 15:54

maybe thieves can steal graves too
Pieton Wed 15:54

Archy's story was changed three times
Wed 15:54

And he claimed being told he had an item at the start of the game
Wed 15:55

These do not line up with my information
Wed 15:55

So he should die
Wed 15:55

You are defending Archy, and so should also die, IMO.
Wed 15:55

You're welcome to build a case on me.
leader Wed 15:55

So you believe as the first person to mention an item he did not actually have one?
Pieton Wed 15:55

Stevey Sav is also sus.
Wed 15:55

We don't know when Evils were told they had items
leader Wed 15:56

Or that he purposely gave false information about how the game mentions items to him?
HeLicks Wed 15:56

When did he say he was told at the start and not N1 like the rest of us?
WeWubMasons Wed 15:56

we don't know if he got confused or if people get their item notifs at different times
Pieton Wed 15:58

MapleSyrupWolf Wed 10:34 Archy, were you informed of the item at the start of the game or only when he robbed you? Archy Wed 10:34 Start
WeWubMasons Wed 15:59

n1 is so close to the start that it's hardly surprising if he made a mistake
Pieton Wed 16:00

I think it matters that he called it a Wolf Pelt and a Wolf Skin
TruthVagina Wed 16:00

ASV for now, will be back when I have time to be off mobile
Pieton Wed 16:00

And then didn't give his role a name
Moderator Wed 16:00

TruthVagina votes to lynch Chiaroscuro
Pieton Wed 16:00

And then just accepted the one that Ext said
leader Wed 16:01

I think PieTon is our best top candidate for Lynch today. I have stated why, I will check back in later to see if anything else has happened.
WeWubMasons Wed 16:01

pelt and skin are relatively interchangeable, and it's very obvious that they refer to the same thing, so there's no issue there. not giving the name of his role allowed him to scout for anyone else with it - finding ext
Pieton Wed 16:01

Your reasoning is genuinely bad, Leader.
Wed 16:02

Calling an item by two different names is inconsistent and makes me think it is a lie.
leader Wed 16:02

On theory crafting side, I think that the two lynches today is probably an item being activated.
Pieton Wed 16:02

I disagree again
Stronkman Wed 16:03

but if items are a new thing
Pieton Wed 16:03

I think it's almost certainly the fact that we have eleventybillion players
Stronkman Wed 16:03

how can someone who does not have items lie about having items?
Pieton Wed 16:03

He might have a different item
Stronkman Wed 16:03

who was the first to talk about them?
WeWubMasons Wed 16:03

if I call my glass a cup am I suddenly lying about having a drinking vessel?
leader Wed 16:04

Also, he was stolen from and that was confirmed. So stating his item was something other than it was seems to make little sense as a tactic.
Pieton Wed 16:04

No, but if you are talking about a specific glass that is called a glass, then you call it a cup, I'm going to find it suspicious.
Wed 16:05

If I'm going to be redirected anyway, Leader, what does it matter about the validity of my suspicions?
Wed 16:05

Why would Coven redirect me at all, if Archy is not Coven?
leader Wed 16:05

I actually do not want to be defending Archy. I do not think he is necessarily lit as much as I think your aggressive nature to him based on very little is more sus than his actions and words.
WeWubMasons Wed 16:05

I have to agree with leader
Wed 16:06

your reasoning is flimsy
Pieton Wed 16:06

It's D2
WeWubMasons Wed 16:06

and it makes you more sus than Archy
Pieton Wed 16:06

Rather flimsy reasoning than none
WeWubMasons Wed 16:06

it's d2. precisely why it's a bad idea to shoot now.
Pieton Wed 16:06

Nah
leader Wed 16:06

Which is why you are on the top of my list, I have less flimsly reasoning to sus you now PieTon.
Pieton Wed 16:07

If I was a Maple, I'd have eaten last night
Wed 16:07

Killing early is always better because that way you ensure you're using it.
WeWubMasons Wed 16:07

maples have an actual need to do so, militias and item wielders don't die by going a set time w/out kills
Pieton Wed 16:07

You're welcome to sus me Leader, I think it's a bad sus, just as you believe my sus to be a bad one
Wed 16:08

I'd be shooting tonight as Militia
Wed 16:08

So *shrug*
leader Wed 16:08

Which is not true about items which can outlast you if we are to believe that the CryptThief is a real thing which two people have stated as such.
WeWubMasons Wed 16:08

I mean you're allowed to play badly, sure
Wed 16:08

we will monitor Archy for more mistakes, but there's insufficient evidence on him, and you desperately pushing to kill him is worrisome enough for me to not want you to waste a ONE USE item on him
Pieton Wed 16:08

You're allowed to think I'm playing badly, sure
Wed 16:09

I just played a game where I shot a Wolf N2, soooooo
WeWubMasons Wed 16:10

Welp, you're clearly not listening. My vote stays on you, and I'm off for now.
Pieton Wed 16:10

Would you not vote for me if I was listening?
Wed 16:11

And, as previously mentioned, the thing I was originally being sussed for was saying I was going to kill so a Succubus could redirect me
Wed 16:11

If that was the issue, then I'm not actually shooting Archy tonight
Wed 16:11

And therefore my sus on Archy is irrelevant
Wed 16:11

Like I said, I look for inconsistencies.
Stronkman Wed 16:12

oh well
Wed 16:12

saying that so is not going to prove anything, you know :D
Pieton Wed 16:12

I know
Wed 16:13

I'm just pointing out where people are being inconsistent. Which is not a sign I associate with Villagers
Moderator Wed 16:13

Monky votes to lynch SteamedHams
Stronkman Wed 16:13

if someoen is concerned that you can kill
Wed 16:14

either by being redirected or because you are a killing role pretending to be good
Wed 16:14

of course that someone will want to burn you
Wed 16:14

because he can't know shit about what you ultimately will do :D
Wed 16:15

even less about who you really are :D
Pieton Wed 16:15

I mean, if people want to kill Villagers because they might be redirected, then I have nothing.
Wed 16:15

I've invited myself to be stalked
Wed 16:15

People are welcome to do whatever they wish to me.
Wed 16:15

If I find myself tied for the lead, or in the lead, I'll claim.
Stronkman Wed 16:16

however, just to get it straight in case i did not get it
Wed 16:16

you claim that you are not going to take that shot tonight?
Wed 16:17

because you wrote: Wed 16:11 If that was the issue, then I'm not actually shooting Archy tonight
leader Wed 16:19

No he was saying if he was redirected someone else would die.
Masontwo Wed 16:20

Why do villagers with killing power feel the need to kill super early when there barely anything to go. Games this big we're going to get a queue of obvious evil people to kill. Save the shots for then
ImmortlOne Wed 16:22

and claiming is too, Masontwo
Wed 16:22

I think it's weird
Stronkman Wed 16:23

i agree that claming to have kill power, for a villager, is quite akward
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 16:23

Pieton, when Archy said he was informed about the items is probably not important, I assume it was the same for anyone and he just chose one of the options I laid out for him, it's definitely not enough to go kill him
Stronkman Wed 16:23

evn assuming that it's true, too many things can go wrong
Wed 16:24

even simply being killed by a wolf because, who knows, maybe he won't shot after all
leader Wed 16:24

Which does not negate the fact that announcing it in advance cannot help, but in many very likely situations could cause harm, which is one of the reasons I used the term irresponsible.
Masontwo Wed 16:24

I'd rather not repeat 299, where all the village killing roles only killed other villagers
OptimusStein Wed 16:24

can any of the normal Thieves remember/check if they could steal from the dead?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 16:24

I remember, I can not
Wed 16:25

I remember checking if I could steal from the dead, because I was curious
Stronkman Wed 16:25

so if he dies without shooting, the shot is lost
leader Wed 16:25

No.
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 16:25

Well, not if the Crypt Thieves are real
Masontwo Wed 16:25

It does sound like Thief steals from the living, and Crypt Thief steals from the dead
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 16:25

Yeah
Stronkman Wed 16:25

Oh, ok
leader Wed 16:25

There are two people claiming CryptTheif
OptimusStein Wed 16:25

I was just thinking that the blight eye could have gone down with one of last nights kills, if not being held by an evil
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 16:26

Also | Giovannigirll Wed 13:19 anti smites, still reading. Mail said dont get smitey| This was more than 3 hours ago
OptimusStein Wed 16:26

ext's claim after pretending it was just a guess still bugs me
Moderator Wed 16:26

Masontwo votes to lynch ext
Masontwo Wed 16:26

ASV for now, but I might end up moving it later
OptimusStein Wed 16:26

but it's too useful a role and I don't really want to lynch any of the ones in the spotlight
Stronkman Wed 16:28

can someone be kind and remember who is claming thief apart from Maple and Archie (if i get things right at least)
OptimusStein Wed 16:28

Kirk
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 16:28

@person I tried to steal from, can you please just get on again and tell me if it worked or not? Please thanks...
MobileClient Wed 16:28

Someone had a theory that you can steal items if they kill someone, but what is the use of a crypt thief if alot of people die at night and only lynches are a target for crypt thieves. So I think you cannot rob items by killing.
Masontwo Wed 16:28

Kirk and Maple are thieves
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 16:29

Kirk and ext also claimed thief roles
Masontwo Wed 16:29

Archie and ext are crypt thieves
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 16:29

Yes what Masontwo said
Stronkman Wed 16:29

Kirk, Maple, Ext, Archie, ok
leader Wed 16:29

Pieton Wed 15:20 I claim I have a one-shot crossbow and am threatening to kill Archy
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 16:29

MobileClient has a point
Masontwo Wed 16:29

There is potentially a 3rd thief, who currently holds a spooky eye
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 16:30

Yes, that or I was redirected to HeLicks, I'll find out tonight
Masontwo Wed 16:30

Yep, agreed
leader Wed 16:30

And we had a role block claim.
SteamedHams Wed 16:31

Pieton also claimed Militia, right?
Stronkman Wed 16:31

No
leader Wed 16:31

No.
Stronkman Wed 16:31

He made no role claims
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 16:31

Should I say who I tried to rob? I have to leave soon and I'm not sure if I'll be back before Nightfall...
OptimusStein Wed 16:31

probably
Masontwo Wed 16:31

Pieton claims to have an item which functions as a militia
OptimusStein Wed 16:31

could be a puppet if we all have stuff
Masontwo Wed 16:32

But their role is something else
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 16:32

-Waiting to see if anyone disagrees-
Masontwo Wed 16:32

Hmmm...
Wed 16:32

Trying to think about any downsides
Stronkman Wed 16:32

Worth as it may be, i claimed no items
Masontwo Wed 16:32

None spring to mind
Kirkstein Wed 16:32

Mpale
Wed 16:32

Maple
Wed 16:32

You might as well say it
SteamedHams Wed 16:32

Pieton Wed 16:07 You're welcome to sus me Leader, I think it's a bad sus, just as you believe my sus to be a bad one Wed 16:08 I'd be shooting tonight as Militia Wed 16:08 So *shrug*
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 16:33

Okay
Kirkstein Wed 16:33

If he did not show up until now or he did he might not have anything
Wed 16:33

Item wise
leader Wed 16:33

We do not know if role block blocks item use or if there is a item block role (or an item that blocks items).
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 16:33

I tried to rob Giovannigirll, so it's really annoying for me thst they just left to read and didn't really say anything
Kirkstein Wed 16:33

Oh ..
Stronkman Wed 16:33

you got an item?
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 16:34

I don't know
Kirkstein Wed 16:34

You will find out soon enough
MapleSyrupWolf Wed 16:35

yeah
Kirkstein Wed 16:37

I dont want to sound arrogant nor bosy but i would ask those who protect to be on maple
Wed 16:37

In a sense as far as i ser we are the ones who claimed oppenly
Arwooo Wed 16:37

i'm back
Kirkstein Wed 16:38

I would like us to learn more about these items.
SteamedHams Wed 16:38

Youre what?
OptimusStein Wed 16:38

how can you be so sure there aren't Thieves on other factions @Kirk?
Kirkstein Wed 16:39

I am not sure but he explained the role as I saw it and understood it.
Stronkman Wed 16:39

how can be sure thieves are not another faction :D
Kirkstein Wed 16:39

It never said specifically what we are
Wed 16:39

Just thieves and items
Wed 16:39

Understanding it is what I would like us to do.
Chiaroscuro Wed 16:39

hellllooooo
Kirkstein Wed 16:39

You can sus us but as far as I know we are both village aligned
Chiaroscuro Wed 16:40

um
Wed 16:40

I need to read everything
Wed 16:40

so
Wed 16:40

brb until nightfall I guess
Arwooo Wed 16:41

what've i missedsince i left?
Stronkman Wed 16:41

something like a criminals factino would not suprise me
Wed 16:41

but again, it's just speculation
Tanool Wed 16:42

morning everyone, welcome to day 2
Kirkstein Wed 16:42

We would never be so open if we were evil
Wed 16:42

I can assure you of that.
Wed 16:42

:)
Stronkman Wed 16:42

for now i tend to trust you
OptimusStein Wed 16:42

yeah that makes sense, cause there could have been something like Jailors etc
Tanool Wed 16:43

Imma be honest, with such a big setup I expected more than 2 deaths night 1
Stronkman Wed 16:43

but as i noted before, you could have easily planned this collective claim in a private chat
Kirkstein Wed 16:43

We could have
Wed 16:44

But i think the fact we did not know what we are
Destroy944 Wed 16:44

People that go reading back and never come back is not sus at all.
Kirkstein Wed 16:44

Tells you we never talked to eavh other before d2
Tanool Wed 16:44

who claimed?
Destroy944 Wed 16:44

Because I never finished everything yet
Kirkstein Wed 16:44

Each*
Wed 16:44

I claimed and maple claimed
Wed 16:44

After us some people claimed bit never specificlly stated their roles us as two did
Chiaroscuro Wed 16:44

ty for understanding destroy
Kirkstein Wed 16:45

But*
Chiaroscuro Wed 16:45

I have two tabs open, one at my current place reading back, and this one where I keep checking back on recent stuff
Stronkman Wed 16:45

but exporing the various possibilities
Chiaroscuro Wed 16:45

has anyone figured out what happens if there is a three-way vote tie?
Tanool Wed 16:45

ok, thanks kirk. I'll have to read back later, possibly after nightfall.
Chiaroscuro Wed 16:45

I figure its been mentioned at some point
Moderator Wed 16:45

ImNotTownSRSLY votes to lynch Pieton
Moderator Wed 16:46

ImNotTownSRSLY votes to lynch Monky
Tanool Wed 16:46

I'll asv now so I don't forget
Moderator Wed 16:46

Tanool votes to lynch TheLoudOne
Stronkman Wed 16:46

what you mean for a three-way vote tie?
Chiaroscuro Wed 16:46

well we don't respect a tied vote
Wed 16:47

but do three people die if like they all have 8 votes or something
Destroy944 Wed 16:47

TL;DR: tomaTOES claim RBed; MapleSyrupWolf and Kirkstein claim Thief; ext and Archy claim Crypt Thief
Stronkman Wed 16:47

if 3 peple tied
Wed 16:47

i think 2 will be selected at random
Chiaroscuro Wed 16:47

ok ty
Tanool Wed 16:47

what is a crypt thief?
Chiaroscuro Wed 16:47

what is a thief
Monky Wed 16:47

I don't have a strong role or have much intelligence to contribute so it is more healthy to let others contribute today. The thieves and items are a bit too much for my head.
Masontwo Wed 16:47

Thief steals items from living players
Moderator Wed 16:48

what is love
Masontwo Wed 16:48

Crypt thieves steals from the dead
Tanool Wed 16:48

got it, thanks masontwo
Masontwo Wed 16:48

Love is some unknown force that makes people do stupid things
Tanool Wed 16:48

baby don't hurt me!
Destroy944 Wed 16:48

Love is EVERYTHING, Mod.
Wed 16:48

<3
Monky Wed 16:48

What is item?
Tanool Wed 16:48

don't hurt me, no more!
Chiaroscuro Wed 16:49

and items are?
Stronkman Wed 16:49

equipments, as far as i udnerstood
Masontwo Wed 16:49

Looks like some people started with items
Chiaroscuro Wed 16:49

not in h2p I quit 4ever
Stronkman Wed 16:49

apart from their roles some players got items that grants them additiona powers
Masontwo Wed 16:49

They have varied effects
Destroy944 Wed 16:49

I have yet update my notes about items
Masontwo Wed 16:49

So far, we have 4 different item claims
Chiaroscuro Wed 16:49

has anyone claimed having an item?
Tanool Wed 16:49

that's awesome! I want an item :(
Chiaroscuro Wed 16:49

oh
Wed 16:49

what are they/what do they do then?
Masontwo Wed 16:49

Archie claims to have lost a Wolf pelt
Stronkman Wed 16:49

most notably, Archie claimed a crossbow that grants him a night kill
Wed 16:50

no no sorry
Masontwo Wed 16:50

Kirk claims to have stolen it
Wed 16:50

Pieton claims the crossbow
Stronkman Wed 16:50

Pieton claimed the crossbow
Chiaroscuro Wed 16:50

and the last item claim?
Destroy944 Wed 16:50

We have 4? Good, I have all of them in my notes.
Masontwo Wed 16:50

Helicks claimed to have a magic eye which helps him track how many blights there are, and cleanse them
Wed 16:51

But it was stolen by forces unknown
Chiaroscuro Wed 16:51

yet thieves are village aligned?
Masontwo Wed 16:51

And finally Optimus claims to have some steel Armour
Stronkman Wed 16:51

so they say :D
Tanool Wed 16:51

i think so? Would they be neutral or village?
Masontwo Wed 16:51

The Armour and the Pelt offer protection from night deaths
Chiaroscuro Wed 16:51

I feel like I don't need to read anything at all anymore :P
Masontwo Wed 16:52

But the Pelt makes you look like a wolf to Seers
Chiaroscuro Wed 16:52

I wonder if evil roles can also steal things though
Wed 16:52

oh damn
Stronkman Wed 16:52

they say they are villagers
Wed 16:52

but they don't know each other nor they can't talk with each other during night
Tanool Wed 16:52

either way I'd assume they would be able to win with village.
Stronkman Wed 16:52

(as fas as i undertstood)
Masontwo Wed 16:52

The Armour and pelt might have limited use. It wasn't very clear
Tanool Wed 16:52

oh ok
Chiaroscuro Wed 16:53

and these items were distributed at random as the game started?
Arwooo Wed 16:53

i'm sussing archy and the purported wolf pelt item tbh
Stronkman Wed 16:53

i guess so
Tanool Wed 16:53

ha I just noticed that there is a the_player lol
Chiaroscuro Wed 16:53

like the people who started with them have roles that don't have to do with them?
Masontwo Wed 16:53

Unknown, but looks likely
Chiaroscuro Wed 16:54

Arwooo would his reason to lie about that be
Masontwo Wed 16:54

I'm not sure, because he reported being robbed before items were a thing being discussed
Chiaroscuro Wed 16:54

what would*
Masontwo Wed 16:54

And Kirk confirmed the theft
Wed 16:54

So, Kirk can confirm what the Pelt is/does
Day2Claim Wed 16:54

Skimmed to catch up, didnt miss much it seems
Chiaroscuro Wed 16:54

I sus Arwooo for his questionable sus
Arwooo Wed 16:55

kirk confirmed attempting a theft on archy, but there's no confirming that it was archy he actually went to unless a stalker was on him to dispel confusion on if he was redirected
Day2Claim Wed 16:55

Can i request to not be on 3 votes yet? Gonna be salty if I get lynched as a meme
Masontwo Wed 16:55

Kirk said he targeted Archie
Wed 16:55

Archie reported the theft first
Arwooo Wed 16:55

the thieves don't get any confirmation on visiting to steal, so they're in the dark if they're redirected
Masontwo Wed 16:56

Your theory requires so many redirects
Arwooo Wed 16:56

it requires two
Masontwo Wed 16:56

It means Kirk got redirected
Day2Claim Wed 16:56

Heading out shopping back later
Arwooo Wed 16:56

or heck, one and a liar
Masontwo Wed 16:56

Plus another thief
Wed 16:57

Which, too me, sounds way to unlikely
Arwooo Wed 16:57

regardless of the feasibility of the wolf pelt itself, i still sus archy for the inconsistent information, because he claimed to have gotten info about it when day 1 started, and yet another person said they didn't get item info until n1
Chiaroscuro Wed 16:57

I'm triggered by the misuse of "to" and "too" in that sentence
Masontwo Wed 16:58

Your welcome
Tanool Wed 16:58

I just checked back on the beginning of the chat, we have to hang 2 today? It makes sense with a group this big, but still... Is that a mod choice or some sort of effect from a player?
Arwooo Wed 16:58

and the info that archy had about the pelt got more detailed somehow
ImmortlOne Wed 16:58

it's a mod choice, IMO
Arwooo Wed 16:58

he just felt too inconsistent, so i sus him
Stronkman Wed 16:58

maybe it's mod, we don't know
Masontwo Wed 16:58

The lynch 2 looks like a mod choice, but again, we don't know
Tanool Wed 16:59

k, so regardless of what we do 2 people have to die?
Wed 16:59

rip
Arwooo Wed 16:59

and by extension, the pelt item, whether it be an innocent item he claims is something else, or if it's him covering up for a wolf ally, or if he's trying to throw suspicion on an innocent
Shifted Wed 16:59

Hi guys, I'm back
ImmortlOne Wed 16:59

it IS a 58 person game
Shifted Wed 16:59

start reading..
Masontwo Wed 16:59

I'm not gonna fault people on messing up stuff when it comes to completely new mechanics
ImmortlOne Wed 16:59

we need to be lynching, to be fair
Arwooo Wed 17:00

i sus the pelt due to my suspicion of archy being a wolf
Tanool Wed 17:00

yeah, your right IMO.
Wed 17:01

*sorry if I abbreviate wrong, i'm lazy*
Masontwo Wed 17:01

My only reason to sus the Pelt is because someone is claiming to have armour which does something similar
ImmortlOne Wed 17:01

"similar"
Wed 17:01

like so many other things in the game
Wed 17:01

protector and huntsman are similar
Wed 17:02

masons and illuminati are similar
SteamedHams Wed 17:02

Maybe he isnt clear about how that "pelt" works
Masontwo Wed 17:02

Yes, but neither is strictly better than the other
ImmortlOne Wed 17:02

god forbid there's similar "items"
Wed 17:02

mason - if one is better, are they still similar?
Masontwo Wed 17:02

From what we've heard from Pelt and Armour, Armour is strictly better
ImmortlOne Wed 17:02

I'd argue huntsman is better than protector
Wed 17:02

in fact, I'd say it's 100% better
Wed 17:02

no doubt
Chiaroscuro Wed 17:02

but if archy had the pelt stolen then he shouldn't even be seen as a wolf anymore
Wed 17:03

so its not like he can use that as an excuse
Arwooo Wed 17:03

he claimed that it protects from wolves at night, but marks the holder as wolf for seer
Masontwo Wed 17:03

Maybe, you trade potential future protections for the kill in the first
ImmortlOne Wed 17:03

killing a wolf is always worth losing a villager
Wed 17:03

so why can't two "similar but one is better" items exist?
Wed 17:04

as usual, I'm not saying I believe Archy, I just think your argument isn't great
Masontwo Wed 17:04

Sure, but Huntsman isn't strictly better than Protector.
Tanool Wed 17:04

so its like a trade you're safe from faction but will look sus?
Wed 17:04

that is cool
ImmortlOne Wed 17:04

I disagree, Masontwo
Masontwo Wed 17:04

Armour is strictly better than Pelt
ImmortlOne Wed 17:04

Huntsman is much more powerful that Prot
Masontwo Wed 17:04

There are situation where Protector is better than Huntsman
Boon Wed 17:04

I think all these people with items belong to certain faction. Those targeted but did not scream foul at being rob belong to another faction. Since Maple said his target did not cry foul
ImmortlOne Wed 17:04

ok
Wed 17:04

but on average?
Masontwo Wed 17:05

I'm not talking about average
ImmortlOne Wed 17:05

what?
Masontwo Wed 17:05

"Strickly better"
Wed 17:05

As in, in all situations
Tanool Wed 17:05

The huntsmen vs protector depends on the setup. With vamps the huntsmen is definately better, but with wolves I personally like protector since they can save village and vote the next day
ImmortlOne Wed 17:05

"there are situations where protector is better than huntsman" - right, but there are other situations where huntsman is better than protector. Which is better in more situations? Which is better on average?
Arwooo Wed 17:05

i'm still putting my hands in the air on if thieves actually hit their targets, because it's fully possible maple got redirected to lick
ImmortlOne Wed 17:05

I think it's Huntsman
Masontwo Wed 17:06

Ok, name a scenario where Pelt is better than armour
Arwooo Wed 17:06

also, i would assume for balance-capability that armor's one-time use
Masontwo Wed 17:06

Based on what we know
Tanool Wed 17:06

but to each his own
ImmortlOne Wed 17:06

what do we know?
Arwooo Wed 17:06

either one-time, or like 3-5 times
Boon Wed 17:06

I feel like being back at world of warcraft with all these items etc.
MobileClient Wed 17:07

With vamps huntsman is better? Tanool what drugs are you taking :D
Arwooo Wed 17:07

either way, limited durability of the armor, since it's a catch-all death preventer at night
ImmortlOne Wed 17:07

Pelt gives protection from a kill but means seer sees you as wolf? Armor just gives protection from kills?
Masontwo Wed 17:07

Both protect from Night kills, but Pelt makes you look like a wolf
ImmortlOne Wed 17:07

that's the info we have, that doesn't mean that's the true info
Arwooo Wed 17:07

pelt specifically guards against wolves, according to archy
ImmortlOne Wed 17:07

my argument is that two similar but distinct items are possible
Arwooo Wed 17:07

but again, i heavily sus archy and his information, because he was inconsistent
Masontwo Wed 17:07

I agree, but not an item which is strictly better or worse
ImmortlOne Wed 17:07

yours is that it's impossible because one is much better than the other
Masontwo Wed 17:08

Not much better, completely
ImmortlOne Wed 17:08

the huntsman/prot comparison is a comparison, not a direct proof
Tanool Wed 17:08

the huntsmen keeps people from being turned to vamps and survives in those setups, at least I think. Either way they are really good roles
ImmortlOne Wed 17:08

mason - you're acting like you know things about a new mechanic which none of us know about
Wed 17:08

we've seen this before
Wed 17:08

people assuming so much, and it's sketchy imo
Chiaroscuro Wed 17:09

I dont see the pelt being something to lie about on D2 here
Wed 17:09

especially with multiple people involved
Masontwo Wed 17:10

So, I don't think the armour and Pelt exist based on what we know. I expect either something has been missed, or something has been misinterpreted
ImmortlOne Wed 17:10

you don't think either exist?
Moderator Wed 17:11

The_The votes to lynch ImNotTownSRSLY
ImmortlOne Wed 17:11

what about the crossbow?
Masontwo Wed 17:11

If they are as we believe them to be currently, then I would be surprised
ImmortlOne Wed 17:11

a lot of people are included in this lie
The_The Wed 17:11

Back at a computer instead of a phone
Masontwo Wed 17:11

What about the Crossbow?
ImmortlOne Wed 17:11

tomorrow will be more revealing, as those who "stole" will presumably have more info
Wed 17:11

do you think the crossbow exists?
The_The Wed 17:11

Voting for ImNotTown because they voted twice and then left and haven't said anything
Pieton Wed 17:11

MobileClient Wed 16:28 Someone had a theory that you can steal items if they kill someone, but what is the use of a crypt thief if alot of people die at night and only lynches are a target for crypt thieves. So I think you cannot rob items by killing. - I said this, I think that items are unbalanced if Evils don't take them when they kill people. Catching up.
Masontwo Wed 17:12

Sure, I see no reason why it wouldn't
ImmortlOne Wed 17:12

so you trust the crossbow claim more than the pelt/armour.. hmm
Wed 17:12

I think I trust the crossbow claim less
Wed 17:12

because it's almost the same as a militia kill
Wed 17:12

claim
Chiaroscuro Wed 17:14

wasn't Archy the first to even claim items? I think Arwooo's sus is bad
Masontwo Wed 17:14

In a vacuum, I would trust each item claim equally. But, Armour and Pelt are too similar and I think we're missing something there
Chiaroscuro Wed 17:14

I hope there's a role that can kill wolves and skin them for their pelt
ImmortlOne Wed 17:14

I agree that it's likely the claims are incomplete
Chiaroscuro Wed 17:15

or maybe visit dead wolves to do that
ImmortlOne Wed 17:15

but I think it's very possible that both exist
Masontwo Wed 17:15

I wouldn't be surprised if the Pelt is permanent protection from wolves but look like a wolf
Tanool Wed 17:15

I wonder how many militia there are, if any? And @Chiar that would be awesome!
ImmortlOne Wed 17:15

so after all this, you're telling me that we don't disagree
Masontwo Wed 17:15

While there armour protects from everything but breaks after so many uses (probably 1)
ImmortlOne Wed 17:15

because you think both are possible, if the claims are incomplete?
Masontwo Wed 17:15

Yes
Bloodhound Wed 17:15

oh my god people how am I supposed to read all this before work
Masontwo Wed 17:16

If these claims are complete, then I think we have a problem
Tanool Wed 17:16

hi James Bloodhound
ImmortlOne Wed 17:16

I still disagree, but I do agree that I think the claims are incomplete
Wed 17:16

even if they are complete, I could believe it
Bloodhound Wed 17:16

hi tanool. Oh my icon is james potter isn't it
SteamedHams Wed 17:17

Maybe Pelt works like a camouflage while Armour's for protection from possible kills
Bloodhound Wed 17:17

Alrught I'm gonna try to read up, what's the current discussion about?
Tanool Wed 17:17

Are we gonna have a problem? You gotta bone to pick? You've come so far why now are you hitting me with a stick?
Chiaroscuro Wed 17:17

@Steamed I was just about to say that
Wed 17:17

makes sense why it would only protect from wolf kills
Wed 17:18

and thats why armour probably breaks and wolf pelt is permanent
ImmortlOne Wed 17:18

we don't know that armour breaks, do we?
SteamedHams Wed 17:18

Wow then we have same brainwaves lol
ImmortlOne Wed 17:18

that's speculation
Chiaroscuro Wed 17:18

we don't but seems op if it doesnt
Wed 17:18

who knows though
SteamedHams Wed 17:18

For that i will make Steamed Hams just for you
Chiaroscuro Wed 17:18

:D
Wed 17:18

I will keep my waves tuned accordingly for more in the future
MilitXII Wed 17:18

Am confused, when the people relationed with these itens got information about them? I don't even know if i have one
Thanwwes Wed 17:19

maybe wolf pelt also makes you act as a lycan? wolf to seer check
The_The Wed 17:19

So it sounds as though people with items were told at the beginning of N1 and if you click on the item it will give you info about it.
HeLicks Wed 17:19

If you had one, you'd know from last night - after night fell there was a "you have at least one item" message or so
Pieton Wed 17:20

Boon Wed 17:04 I think all these people with items belong to certain faction.? Why?
Moderator Wed 17:20

Thanwwes votes to lynch Monky
HeLicks Wed 17:20

Then you had buttons to switch between your normal ability and any item you had, and then the item had buttons for passing it away or using any ability
Chiaroscuro Wed 17:20

@Thanwwes that's what they already said it does
The_The Wed 17:20

Archy Wed 10:31 Makes seer see you as wolf tho
Chiaroscuro Wed 17:20

wait you can pass items?
Thanwwes Wed 17:20

oh
Chiaroscuro Wed 17:21

who has priority if there is someone thieving you and you are trying to pass it?
ImmortlOne Wed 17:21

good question Chia
The_The Wed 17:21

HeLicks Wed 10:45 Everyone with an item can give it to anyone else, or it can be stolen apparently
ImmortlOne Wed 17:21

great question
Thanwwes Wed 17:21

voted for monky as they said they were confused
Bloodhound Wed 17:22

well there's no way in hell i can catch up on this discussion @.@
Boon Wed 17:22

@pieton as I read on, maple said his target doesnt seems to be aware or cry foul at getting rob
Bloodhound Wed 17:23

i'm trying to read back but can someone give me a basic idea of what this is about?
Pieton Wed 17:23

Anyone have a clue why cakewolfy has 3 votes?
Thanwwes Wed 17:23

We need to get some good Tl drs going, I've only managed to skim so far
Pieton Wed 17:23

The second part makes sense, the first doesn't.
Wed 17:23

^ To Boon
ImmortlOne Wed 17:23

good tldr = trustworthy tldr = impossible
Pieton Wed 17:23

Immortl, TomaTOES and Guihmo are all voting Cake.
ImmortlOne Wed 17:24

he was on 0 when I voted, for the record
Pieton Wed 17:24

Immortl, you're here, why Cake?
Wed 17:24

Yeah, that's fair
Moderator Wed 17:24

ImmortlOne votes to lynch TK241
ImmortlOne Wed 17:24

as previously stated, I'll be voting for a reason at some point
Pieton Wed 17:24

Birb, N1D and NotSus are voting for Water.
ImmortlOne Wed 17:24

just not yet
Boon Wed 17:24

@pieton how is it not making sense since the reason is based on Maple statement. It is just an opinion
Pieton Wed 17:24

Water did kind of seem flakey when they were here though.
Wed 17:25

Boon - Just because GiovanniGirll didn't say anything about Maple's rob doesn't allow inference about other item holders.
Thanwwes Wed 17:25

immortlone, guihmodeltoro and tomatoes voted
OptimusStein Wed 17:25

the armor protects from 'one night kill' so yeah I think it's like the totem, unless it's literally one time use
Thanwwes Wed 17:25

tomatoes said they wanted to vote for people who did not speak today, but cake has spoken a bit
Pieton Wed 17:26

You are speculating that all item holders (me, Archy, Helicks and Optimus) are on a team, because GiovanniGirlll didn't mention being robbed
Day2Claim Wed 17:26

back, although cooking dinner so will be coming and going
Pieton Wed 17:27

Gio might not even have had an item to be robbed and so may have been told nothing
Day2Claim Wed 17:27

OptimusStein, wanna move your vote off me?
Boon Wed 17:27

Fair enough. Maple said GioGirl is up and about so I just think it is a possibility. I get your defense. Well, there goes the possibility and my assumption out of the window then.
OptimusStein Wed 17:27

maaaybe
Day2Claim Wed 17:28

perhaps towards someone less active or whatever
bewseer27 Wed 17:28

tl;dr: TomaTOES claims that they were blocked N1. Kirkstein and MapleSyrupWolf claim a new role called 'Thief', which can steal items from players. Ext and Archy both claim another new role, called 'Crypt Thief', which can steal from dead players. HeLicks claims that he had an 'Eye' stolen from him that allowed him to see all players that have been blighted, and also let him cleanse individuals of the blight (presumably in place of his normal night action). Pieton claims to have a 'Crossbow' item, which allows for a one-use kill ability. OptimusStein claims to have an 'Armour' item that protects the holder for one night.
OptimusStein Wed 17:28

I do need to pick a prime sus
bewseer27 Wed 17:28

This should be the bits that matter, and is hopefully accurate.
OptimusStein Wed 17:28

it's Steel Armour if we need the deets
Pieton Wed 17:29

Please remember that two people are dying, moving people down on to two just increases the pool of people who might be randomly killed.
Day2Claim Wed 17:29

Also Helicks vote on me indicates they have low tolerance for jokes or fun, which makes me sad.
Wed 17:29

or they were just piling on in a very sus way
Pieton Wed 17:29

Currently on 2: Cake, TheLoudOne, Stronk, Monky, Pieton, Cat, NotSus
Day2Claim Wed 17:30

No Gym membership for you Helicks
Bloodhound Wed 17:30

@bewseer27 thanks for the tldr
HeLicks Wed 17:30

Day2Claim: the vote on you was mostly for the joke claim in the middle of otherwise useful discussion
Wed 17:31

I'm ok with moving that though
Day2Claim Wed 17:31

I literally posted as I was reading shit, I didn't even see what was being said at the time
Wed 17:31

I was mid scroll
Moderator Wed 17:31

ImmortlOne votes to lynch Pieton
ImmortlOne Wed 17:31

I don't like the crossbow claim
Moderator Wed 17:31

HeLicks votes to lynch NewFaction
ImmortlOne Wed 17:31

regardless of intent to use
Day2Claim Wed 17:31

but real talk, if you had this name you would post shit as soon as you logged on. Who wouldn't ;)
ImmortlOne Wed 17:31

it's a "if I get seen killing someone, I have my excuse/reason ready"
HeLicks Wed 17:31

Day2Claim: Understandable. *looks at own name*
Thanwwes Wed 17:32

So at the moment pieton and watert are on the block
OptimusStein Wed 17:32

that's true, but you seem a bit panicky and defensive now
Day2Claim Wed 17:32

Items also have no relevance to faction / alignment. They seem to be random (based on our earlier discussions / group think).
MilitXII Wed 17:32

Why a new role just to steal so less itens? There are only a tiny fraction of the 58 players aggreing with the itens existense right?
OptimusStein Wed 17:32

I think Pieton sounds villagey personally
Day2Claim Wed 17:32

so we can rule them out for the most part when looking for sus
McDonald1800 Wed 17:33

Boy that's a lot of chat, hello all
Day2Claim Wed 17:33

considerations need to be made about keeping someone alive as they hold a useful item, but we have people who can collect them from the graveyard
Wed 17:33

so its moot
ImmortlOne Wed 17:33

if those people are villagers
Day2Claim Wed 17:33

McDonald1800 appears to clearly be McDonald90
Tanool Wed 17:33

hi mcDonald
Moderator Wed 17:33

OptimusStein votes to lynch Cat
HeLicks Wed 17:33

I believe the crossbow as an item, I'm not convinced by Pieton wanting to use it
Thanwwes Wed 17:33

If it continues as 2 lynches a day this could get troublesome if there are corpses(rev), and puppetmaster
Pieton Wed 17:33

Alright, fuck it, I'll full claim, I prefer death's sweet embrace anyway.
Day2Claim Wed 17:34

why?
Wed 17:34

oh
Wed 17:34

you are on 3 too
Pieton Wed 17:34

Because I'm currently dying?
the_player Wed 17:34

wut
ImmortlOne Wed 17:34

the only way I can work out that clashes on items (two thieves, or one giveaway and one thief) is that it comes down to timestamp - I'd suggest if you're giving items away, do it straight away at night
HeLicks Wed 17:34

ImmortlOne: I would expect it's use > stolen > given away
Day2Claim Wed 17:34

I guess only you can weigh the risk/reward of your claim and if it makes sense, but it seems like a better last resort
Tanool Wed 17:35

In the grand scheme of things we are all dying
Day2Claim Wed 17:35

deep
Bloodhound Wed 17:35

Alright I'm not sure what I think about these claims, items are an interesting idea in theory but two of the three claimed items seem to be one use, so i'm not sure what the point is for having the thief roles unless they can steal and use the items after they've been used up. Otherwise that role wouldn't have much to do all game after most of the items are used up...
ImmortlOne Wed 17:35

I'd guess Stolen/Given Away (broken by timestamp > Use - but I'm guesing for sure
HeLicks Wed 17:35

MapleSyrupWolf: the more I think about it, the more I think you were probably redirected to me for meta reasons. Helix dislikes Maple wolves, your name is MapleSyrupWolf, so a redirect of you to me makes sense
Pieton Wed 17:35

I'm a Drunk Seer, percentage chance that I don't receive a view because I can't remember because I got too drunk. Any views I receive will be Sane. I don't know if I actually visit my target when I get drunk. I tried to view GoodBoi last night but got drunk instead.
Wed 17:35

RIP, pile on me now.
bewseer27 Wed 17:36

what the fuck mark
OptimusStein Wed 17:36

wat
MilitXII Wed 17:36

lool
Bloodhound Wed 17:36

.....k
Day2Claim Wed 17:36

I like it
HeLicks Wed 17:36

I kinda like it
Day2Claim Wed 17:36

Ah man, I really hope a drunk wakes up as a drunk seer this game
Pieton Wed 17:36

I mean, my claim was never going to be one that won people over on D4 if I was sussed all the way through.
bewseer27 Wed 17:36

http://www.lifeprint.com/asl101/signjpegs/w/what1.jpg
Day2Claim Wed 17:36

still drunk.
Tanool Wed 17:36

*confused noise+brain explosion*
Thanwwes Wed 17:37

possible info is still possible info
bewseer27 Wed 17:37

It's in the strange realm of believability while also being weird RNG.
cakewolfy Wed 17:37

Does a drunk seer can sober up into a normal seer?
Day2Claim Wed 17:37

I would also like to claim drunk Zealot, in the event of a no lynch I kill everyone including myself.
Pieton Wed 17:37

I don't know the percentage chance, btw.
Tanool Wed 17:38

It is so specific and weird.....I want it to be true
Pieton Wed 17:38

Guessing 50/50 but dunno
Wed 17:38

Cake - I think this is just my role?
bewseer27 Wed 17:38

...This adds a whole new dynamic to Rob seer spuds, guys!
Wed 17:38

Celebration time.
Pieton Wed 17:38

I speculated to myself that I would sober up once Seers have died, but then just make me Drunk, not a Drunk Seer
Thanwwes Wed 17:39

I'd rather lynch a non speaker or shitposter for now
Day2Claim Wed 17:39

There's no point in lynching Pieton, give him some time to see if it pans out
Tanool Wed 17:39

Tomorrow no lynch! Ultimate power move
the_player Wed 17:39

I want to believe the DrunkSeer
bewseer27 Wed 17:39

I don't have any reason to believe or disbelieve Pieton at the moment.
the_player Wed 17:39

its like a GV but not as strong
Boon Wed 17:39

Oh boy.. there goes your liver..
cakewolfy Wed 17:39

drunk seer like the GV... sure!
Birb Wed 17:39

Pieton: So you can use your item and your seer check on the same night?
Boon Wed 17:40

I tot waterT currently lead the lynch votes?
Wed 17:40

I think im lagging
Day2Claim Wed 17:40

And Cat
Boon Wed 17:40

Yes i am.. yup just saw ir
Day2Claim Wed 17:40

and Pieton, but we are moving off that
Pieton Wed 17:40

Birb - This was part of the discrepency with Archy too
Day2Claim Wed 17:40

or I'll be sad
Pieton Wed 17:41

Archy said he "knew" that you couldn't use your item and role power
Wed 17:41

But didn't say how
Wed 17:41

My information doesn't make that clear. I believe I can use both.
Day2Claim Wed 17:41

How do some people seem to have much more information about items than others (among those who have items).
Pieton Wed 17:41

But I could be wrong.
Day2Claim Wed 17:41

and theifs
Wed 17:41

seems weird
Boon Wed 17:41

Archy is all over the place like you said anyway
Birb Wed 17:41

It's good if you can, a seer check and a shot from a seer would be very powerful combo
OptimusStein Wed 17:41

wait
MilitXII Wed 17:41

Do you ignored my question before?
Day2Claim Wed 17:41

Suggestion: Some kind of evil theif faction that wins if they collect enough toys / items.
Pieton Wed 17:41

Yep
Day2Claim Wed 17:42

?
Wed 17:42

their role would give them more information
leader Wed 17:42

I don't like the seer claim with no checks D2, drunk or not. Seems too early in the day to be desperation claiming on being tied for a few minutes.
Pieton Wed 17:42

I think that could be pretty underwhelming
Wed 17:42

But not impossible.
Tanool Wed 17:42

huh, that would be interesting. Faction: the collectors Objective: collect at least one of each object in the game
Birb Wed 17:42

Yes I'm not sure why you claimed but I believe the claim for now
Pieton Wed 17:42

Leader, you just don't like anything I do, huh
Stronkman Wed 17:42

Frankly i'm not buying it
Day2Claim Wed 17:42

leader, sure, but we can afford to let it pan out a bit and see surely?
Pieton Wed 17:43

I claimed because I was in the fucking lead
Day2Claim Wed 17:43

unless what, you expect they are a SS and going to fuck off?
Wed 17:43

seems unlikely
Pieton Wed 17:43

Would you like me to not claim?
bewseer27 Wed 17:43

Yes, please pretend you did not claim and we will also pretend.
Stronkman Wed 17:43

i should believe a seer made all this mess
Wed 17:43

and attract such heat on himself for no reason?
leader Wed 17:43

Why does a seer just not keep their head down?
Pieton Wed 17:43

Stronk - I dgaf about my role, ever.
Wed 17:43

I play for my faction
Wed 17:44

And I don't even get views half the time
Wed 17:44

An active villager is much better than a quiet Seer, IMO.
Day2Claim Wed 17:44

preach
Pieton Wed 17:44

The game is solved by people talking and lynching Evil, not by asv while you collect views.
Chiaroscuro Wed 17:44

tru
Tanool Wed 17:44

I just got that IMO means in my opinion. Wow I'm dumb
Day2Claim Wed 17:44

and shitposting, you forgot shitposting.
Pieton Wed 17:45

How I'm playing here has only been driven by the crossbow
Chiaroscuro Wed 17:45

pew
Moderator Wed 17:45

Chiaroscuro votes to lynch Arwooo
Day2Claim Wed 17:45

Just remember, if you shoot Stronkman it's an easy kill, he has brains everywhere.
Pieton Wed 17:45

Lol
ImmortlOne Wed 17:45

hmm
Wed 17:46

I don't like Pie's claim
Chiaroscuro Wed 17:46

can someone explain what meme I am
ImmortlOne Wed 17:46

but I like how they've gone about it
leader Wed 17:46

I can be an active villager without spilling a bunch of info all over that does nothing but help out evil against my team.
Tanool Wed 17:46

I like Pieton, I want to keep him around if not for believing him then because "drunk
Wed 17:46

'seer is new to me
HeLicks Wed 17:46

Chiaroscuro: there is a player with your name backwards
Pieton Wed 17:46

Leader, are you really wanting to thunderdome this between us?
Chiaroscuro Wed 17:46

oooooh got it
leader Wed 17:47

I am speaking about what I see and what I think, or in other words being active.
Thanwwes Wed 17:47

The lurkers so far: Redeploy, Hives, FalcoPunch, Bignews, ImNotTownSRSLY (voted without speaking), Newfaction
Pieton Wed 17:47

Right, but the entirety of your activity can be summed up by "Leader susses everything Pieton says"
Wed 17:47

What's your thoughts on other stuff?
Birb Wed 17:47

I'm happy to lynch lurkers
Day2Claim Wed 17:47

me too
leader Wed 17:47

I think possibly we can not count on the tied votes being randomly chosen between.
Stronkman Wed 17:47

oh well
MilitXII Wed 17:47

I want to in this item hunting (I still don't trusting their existence)
Thanwwes Wed 17:47

I would like to lynch anyone from that list
MilitXII Wed 17:48

join
Thanwwes Wed 17:48

unless they speak up
Birb Wed 17:48

My main sus is water which I've said because of his weird behaviour but fuck lurkers in an ext
Wed 17:48

GET EM BOYS
Stronkman Wed 17:48

at this point every faction will be on the move
Pieton Wed 17:48

Because of zombies and puppets etc?
Day2Claim Wed 17:48

I still suspect we have scapegoats
leader Wed 17:48

No, because the mod message said
Thanwwes Wed 17:48

Although there are a few others with just a few words and an asv
OptimusStein Wed 17:48

oh I hadn't realised Cat had been on, also want to vote a lurker
Stronkman Wed 17:48

so suddenly everyone believes this crowwbow drunk seer it's real :D
Birb Wed 17:48

Also where is the big news we were promised
TruthVagina Wed 17:48

GOD this was a confusing read
leader Wed 17:48

"they wll not respect a tied vote"
TruthVagina Wed 17:49

And I'm only halfway done
Moderator Wed 17:49

Thanwwes votes to lynch Redeploy
Day2Claim Wed 17:49

there's a tldr up a few lines Truthvagina
TruthVagina Wed 17:49

I've reached 13:30 and I'm already sick and tired of reading
Day2Claim Wed 17:49

just use that
leader Wed 17:49

I think possibly we need to not have a tied vote or else it will be random, not that the tied votes will be chosen between.
Chiaroscuro Wed 17:49

not gonna lie I stopped trying to catch up on the readinng
Pieton Wed 17:49

I assumed that meant that they don't give a shit if we balance
Day2Claim Wed 17:49

left out the part about me opening a gym, but other than that it's fairly good.
Chiaroscuro Wed 17:49

but only cause people basically explained what happened so far
Moderator Wed 17:49

OptimusStein votes to lynch ImNotTownSRSLY
Day2Claim Wed 17:50

back soonish
Moderator Wed 17:50

Birb votes to lynch ImNotTownSRSLY
Moderator Wed 17:50

Boon votes to lynch Redeploy
leader Wed 17:50

If we get to pick by tied votes that will be respecting the tied vote. Maybe reading too much into it, but it was a thought I had other than PieTon is evil.
TruthVagina Wed 17:50

AFAIK I don't have an item, but feel free to rob me and find out
Moderator Wed 17:50

Pieton votes to lynch WaterTrousers
Stronkman Wed 17:50

Yeah right man
Wed 17:50

moving a vote on 3 agains
Pieton Wed 17:50

Me?
TruthVagina Wed 17:50

Suddenly I see votes moving, why is that happening?
Pieton Wed 17:50

I think Water is a fine vote
Birb Wed 17:50

Anyone else lagging on phone?
Boon Wed 17:51

Yup
TruthVagina Wed 17:51

Me an hour and a half ago Birb
Birb Wed 17:51

I'm happy with water or a lurker,water is also a lurker
MilitXII Wed 17:51

I was trying to type in phone and i gave up and went to pc
Pieton Wed 17:51

I was sat on a singleton on someone else. I forgot who
Tanool Wed 17:51

So what should we do? make two big stacks on inactives?
Birb Wed 17:51

But I'm gonna go for a bit. hope lag is better in a bit
Pieton Wed 17:51

OH. STEVEY
Boon Wed 17:51

Try clear chat
Stronkman Wed 17:51

not gonna lie
Pieton Wed 17:51

Fuck Stevey, can we lynch that guy?
OptimusStein Wed 17:51

stevey was pretty sus
Stronkman Wed 17:52

is something fishy happens i definetey move the vote to save my ass
Moderator Wed 17:52

ImmortlOne votes to lynch TK241
ImmortlOne Wed 17:52

taking my vote off Pie
Moderator Wed 17:53

MilitXII votes to lynch Archy
Moderator Wed 17:54

MobileClient votes to lynch ImNotTownSRSLY
Bloodhound Wed 17:54

Okat tbh i would definitely recommend we have two people tied for the most votes and no more. I used my ability last night, I'm an Agitator and once per game at night i can use my ability and if the vote is tied to day after I give the village two lynches from the highest voted people
Pieton Wed 17:54

We moved because Leader raised the possibility that if we balance any old person could die. We need a number of people at multiple votes.
MilitXII Wed 17:54

Still sus Archy
TruthVagina Wed 17:54

All these moves from people I hardly see
RobSeer Wed 17:54

Hey everyone
Bloodhound Wed 17:55

I'd rather not waste it so if we only have the two most suspicious people tied for most votes, they should both be lynched
MilitXII Wed 17:55

Lol
RobSeer Wed 17:55

Why does my avatar not inspire confidence. So we're lynching some lurkers? I thinkthe Pieton versus Archy is a bit odd, but both worth keeping for the day?
OptimusStein Wed 17:55

.....Agitator?
MilitXII Wed 17:55

So it was your hability
MobileClient Wed 17:55

Bloodhound so you are responsible for these forced lynches? Or am I misunderstanding your role?
Boon Wed 17:56

And now you agitate the whole moshpit
OptimusStein Wed 17:56

why would that be a role rather than just a mod thing
HeLicks Wed 17:56

Not convinced at all by Bloodhound.
MobileClient Wed 17:56

What do you mean with 'if the vote is tied'
TruthVagina Wed 17:56

Well, at least we finally have people talking D2
Moderator Wed 17:56

RobSeer votes to lynch Bloodhound
leader Wed 17:56

I would suggest it would be safer to have two clear winners and nobody tied. The mod message said clearly "they will not respect a tied vote"
RobSeer Wed 17:56

Why use it day two?
Bloodhound Wed 17:56

that's what it says, once per game i can give the illage two lynches, if there's a tied vote
Wed 17:56

and tbh...i don't think i can be very active so i figured i'd use it sooner then later
Moderator Wed 17:56

HeLicks votes to lynch Bloodhound
Bloodhound Wed 17:57

esp since i have work most of the day
TruthVagina Wed 17:57

Well, we've got a 4 and a 3
Hives Wed 17:57

Holy cow...
Bloodhound Wed 17:57

I'm village aligned, lynch all evil doers objective
OptimusStein Wed 17:57

decoy claim possibility?
RobSeer Wed 17:57

so you think you wont have time to use it any later than day t w o ?
MobileClient Wed 17:57

The mod message this morning doesn't mention tied votes.
Wed 17:57

Only that we have to have 2 lynches.
Stronkman Wed 17:57

oh well
Hives Wed 17:57

Everyone worth their salt is gonna claim "Village aligned".
MilitXII Wed 17:57

Do we have any non-new role claimed here?
Hives Wed 17:57

Wait, two lynches?
Wed 17:58

I am really behind.
Stronkman Wed 17:58

we had a "possibly evil killing role" situation turned into a "save the seer" situation in one minute :D
Bloodhound Wed 17:58

Tbh no cause i'm either gonna die or possibly get smited if i get too busy @.@
Stronkman Wed 17:58

and now we sus the agitator :D ?
Thanwwes Wed 17:58

There can be no calming the mob today - they will not respect a tied vote.
Boon Wed 17:58

@mobileclient last line
leader Wed 17:58

It says, "There can be no calming the mob today - they will not respetc a tied vote." I misspelled the word on purpose so I am not copy/pasting.
Hives Wed 17:59

Well, I still need to vote and read vack.
Moderator Wed 17:59

Hives votes to lynch Giovannigirll
MobileClient Wed 17:59

qBoon last line says tied votes are not respected.
Wed 17:59

I read that as tied votes are not wanted
Wed 17:59

No balance is possible.
Bloodhound Wed 17:59

okay I have to clock in now but i'll check in between calls if i can. we're having a damn meltodnw at work
leader Wed 17:59

So choosing people by making the vote tied, to me sounds like a bad idea.
Hives Wed 17:59

This is gonna take like an hour, I'm really sorry if I go AFK, but context for me is trivial.
OptimusStein Wed 17:59

Bloodhound seems like a distraction, because we could lynch him whether he was lit or not and it'd make no difference. pupp?
RobSeer Wed 18:00

Maybe it's just me, but day 2 is kinda the worst day to select for double lynch?
OptimusStein Wed 18:00

it IS
cakewolfy Wed 18:00

And it is not at the same time.
OptimusStein Wed 18:00

he's faking, but the question is why
MobileClient Wed 18:01

And now Bloodhound says there have to be tied votes for 2 lynches? Yeah, Bloodhound seems evil, not sure what kind of evil (banshee, zombie, puppet seem most likely)
OptimusStein Wed 18:01

harpy/pupp/tanner/other?
Wed 18:01

ah yes those two too
Stronkman Wed 18:01

Ah, because you think the Drunk Seer is real :D : D :D ? ? ?
Pieton Wed 18:01

Why do you not, Stronk?
Stronkman Wed 18:02

I told you already
Wed 18:02

nowhere in the world a seer would have bbehaved like you did
the_player Wed 18:02

I see a ton of chatter about Pieton; what's the deal with WaterT?
Bloodhound Wed 18:02

Fuck sake people I'm trying to give info before i get too damn busy to do it
Pieton Wed 18:02

I told you, Seers are worth fuck all
Stronkman Wed 18:02

to come out like this when you are on the choipping block is extremelty sus for me
cakewolfy Wed 18:02

Pieton claims Drunk Seer means check is either sane or drunk.
Wed 18:02

WaterT started a lynch-train I believe.
Pieton Wed 18:02

No, I either get a check or I don't.
OptimusStein Wed 18:03

busy people were advised not to join the game so...
leader Wed 18:03

You could be an Insane Drunk Seer
Wed 18:03

Because, why not?
Boon Wed 18:03

Let him live then if it's a concern. He voted today, he wont get smited if he doesnt vote tomorrow.
Stronkman Wed 18:03

i think he is just desperately trying to save his ass, and that's that
TruthVagina Wed 18:03

I'm dying in laughter here
cakewolfy Wed 18:03

Drunk Seer is a cousin of the Drunk Harlot. They stumble into a house each night and depending on how hammered they are they can see who else visit.
Pieton Wed 18:03

No, I know my checks are true
Wed 18:04

Stronk - Then vote for me, because you aren't, you hypocrite
Wed 18:04

COME AT ME BRO
Tanool Wed 18:04

I like the idea of drunk seer, I don't seer anything wrong with keeping him around.
leader Wed 18:04

^^
Stronkman Wed 18:04

i'm not asking anybody to do anthing, man
Wed 18:04

differently by you :D
leader Wed 18:04

I do not like the idea of seers claiming D2, saying that is a reason to keep them alive, but then also saying seers are worthless.
cakewolfy Wed 18:05

Especially a drunk seer claiming D2.
Pieton Wed 18:05

You're telling people they shouldn't believe me and that you don't believe me, but then you aren't voting me
Wed 18:05

Afraid of having to put a vote on someone who'll get dug as what they claim and having to be accountable?
Stronkman Wed 18:05

so whay?
Boon Wed 18:05

It's like mocking the GV when it's first appear at 200, Vanna white.. wheel of fortune.. etc.
Pieton Wed 18:05

SO WHY NOT
Wed 18:05

If you think I'm Evil, vote for me
Boon Wed 18:05

Drunk seer could be real i guess
Pieton Wed 18:05

That's the entire game we're playing right herre
Wed 18:06

I never said keep me alive for being a Seer either, Leader, don't put words in my mouth.
OptimusStein Wed 18:06

if it's real it might pop up in the plot
Pieton Wed 18:06

I just claimed because I was in the lead. That's also how the game works.
Stronkman Wed 18:06

yeah right
cakewolfy Wed 18:06

Drunk Seer could be real. Could as well be not.
leader Wed 18:06

The entire thing is inconsistent, irresponsible at best, and then throw in they are claiming to kill at night in advance that we could give to someone more responsible if we lynch them that it is enough for me. I am happy to discuss who the second most sus person is.
Stronkman Wed 18:06

you definetely play a seer like behaving crazy
Pieton Wed 18:07

I PLAY ALL ROLES LIKE THIS YOU BUFFOON
Wed 18:07

I already said that
Stronkman Wed 18:07

i remember what you said
TruthVagina Wed 18:07

I say that we could always keep Pie alive for now and then if there is a seer check them. HOWEVER we don't know how many seers if any we have
leader Wed 18:07

So your claim is meta based, I am this person, so you should not lynch me.
Stronkman Wed 18:07

"we have thw lynchs, we have tol play aggressively"
Pieton Wed 18:07

No
Wed 18:07

My claim is this is my role so you know what you're doing
Stronkman Wed 18:07

now you say you are drunk seer
Pieton Wed 18:07

Fuck me
Wed 18:07

I wish I could day kill both of you right now
Wed 18:08

Guaranteed that at least one of these is Evil
Wed 18:08

Probably both.
cakewolfy Wed 18:08

Shame you get no report if drunk instead of something like: You're too drunk to remember what faction your target belonged to.
Pieton Wed 18:08

New update for Succubi - I'm killing one of Stronk, Leader or Archy
TruthVagina Wed 18:08

Well then check them tonight
Pieton Wed 18:08

Cake - That's kinda what I get :)
Stronkman Wed 18:08

ok that does it
Moderator Wed 18:09

Stronkman votes to lynch Pieton
Pieton Wed 18:09

HOORAY
Stronkman Wed 18:09

you are FoS man
TruthVagina Wed 18:09

FoS... I haven't heard that term in ages
Pieton Wed 18:09

Shame for you when I'm dug as a drunk seer, but good luck in life you evil fuck
cakewolfy Wed 18:09

Wtf is a FoS.
Stronkman Wed 18:09

i'm not buying you are a seer not now not tomorrow
TruthVagina Wed 18:09

Finger of Suspicion
Pieton Wed 18:09

Why?
Stronkman Wed 18:09

don't care what theo ther are thinking
cakewolfy Wed 18:10

I see.
Tanool Wed 18:10

ohhhhhh
Pieton Wed 18:10

Because I don't play to your expectations?
cakewolfy Wed 18:10

I also find it weird that he knows he's drunk seer while other seers don't know what they are.
Pieton Wed 18:10

I assumed it was full of shit, tbh
cakewolfy Wed 18:10

But that can be interpreted by the msg received.
Pieton Wed 18:10

A drunk knows they're drunk dude
OptimusStein Wed 18:10

TV is the expert here
Wed 18:11

there may be other drunk classic roles
Pieton Wed 18:11

Anyway, please remember the people who pushed to get a claimed Seer lynched. Leader and Stronkman are Evil,
Moderator Wed 18:11

Pieton votes to lynch Stronkman
Pieton Wed 18:11

I'll put Stronk at three as well, let's see what happens.
leader Wed 18:11

I am being active, you don't like what I think but you encourage activity. I play a village aligned role like this, which is what I am doing. Not sure why that is part of an argument but it seems it is. I will not try to point out who I am by telling you what I did in recent games to pass who I am and try to get my friends to believe me, as I believe that is cheating, so I will not.
OptimusStein Wed 18:12

pie is still villagey vibes for me tbh
Pieton Wed 18:12

Leader - I suspect you because you've done fuck all but push at me
Wed 18:12

And don't accuse me of cheating
leader Wed 18:12

I just voted for you and said why I did. You rather I vote and not say why?
Pieton Wed 18:12

I haven't and I don't really care for that accusation
Wed 18:13

I'd like you to talk about the other claims and everything else that has happened as well
Wed 18:13

Instead of just focussing on me
Stronkman Wed 18:13

Don't say foolishness
Wed 18:13

i was not even voting for you while Leader was bashing at you
TruthVagina Wed 18:13

We're at a 4 and two 3s
Pieton Wed 18:13

Because I'll be dead tomorrow, and you'll need to be talking about other stuff.
FalcoPunch Wed 18:13

hello so i have just read through a bit seems like theres lots of people claiming new roles
Stronkman Wed 18:13

he does not have anything to do with that
Boon Wed 18:13

I believe Pie for now. Think we need to sto at guessing or saying who you are behind these avatars. Even if you recognizes the other party style of writing playing etc.
FalcoPunch Wed 18:13

i feel that some arw completely lying crypt thief sounds like gr no?
Boon Wed 18:14

Stop*
Pieton Wed 18:14

Stronk - I asked you to vote for me so your vote aligned with your words.
FalcoPunch Wed 18:14

and crossbow one shot kill sounds like militia no?
Pieton Wed 18:14

Falco - That's an item I have, not my role.
Wed 18:14

Although I also have a new role.
FalcoPunch Wed 18:14

ah so items are a thing i see
cakewolfy Wed 18:14

Also when used, can you gib the item to somebody else so they can shoot again?
Wed 18:14

Or does that consume the item.
leader Wed 18:14

I said I thought what you did was cheating, so I will not do it. I added what I thought was helpful other than you are acting evil to me. You claiming a night kill in advance and now claiming a new seer role that conveniently does not have to give any check did not help your case in my eyes.
cakewolfy Wed 18:14

Or unkown.
Pieton Wed 18:15

I don't think so, ckae.
leader Wed 18:15

I also said I am happy to talk about the number 2 sus.
FalcoPunch Wed 18:15

also at night are we not gonna talk about how mod says village will do 2 lynches?
Wed 18:15

what tf does that mean :o
Stronkman Wed 18:15

That's exactly what i mean, Leader
cakewolfy Wed 18:15

It means
Wed 18:15

that there are 2 lynches
Pieton Wed 18:15

It means two people are going to be lynched.
cakewolfy Wed 18:15

It can't be more clear.
FalcoPunch Wed 18:15

so 2nd most voted will be lynch?
Boon Wed 18:15

If we believe rhe agitator invoked that ability
Tanool Wed 18:15

That is a bit far leader, I think Pie did rational things from what I have seen.
Pieton Wed 18:15

You guys are welcome to accuse me of cheating after the game, so we can discuss it in the open.
TruthVagina Wed 18:15

Does TAO show up as neutral?
Pieton Wed 18:16

Accusing me of cheating behind an anonymous character is not acceptable to me.
TruthVagina Wed 18:16

Asking because we have a "drunk seer" who claims to be able to kill
FalcoPunch Wed 18:16

hold up someone explain what pie did lol
Tanool Wed 18:16

I believe him untill the story or a confirmed seer/role counters him
cakewolfy Wed 18:16

Pie claims Drunk Seer with a crossbow.
FalcoPunch Wed 18:16

and why stronkman has so much votes? its a lot to read back
Wed 18:16

hmm drunk seer
Stronkman Wed 18:17

I was voted the second time by Jim58
cakewolfy Wed 18:17

Drunk seer is sometimes too drunk to remember their check.
Pieton Wed 18:17

Falco, I am a Drunk Seer, I either get a Sane Seer view or forget the outcome of my view because I got drunk.
Stronkman Wed 18:17

because i said "here's the puppet" to someone as a joke
Pieton Wed 18:17

And I have a crossbow.
leader Wed 18:17

I wanted to say I think we should not make references to what we have done in recent games and how we play in other games as it is passing identity and is meta.
Stronkman Wed 18:17

and in his mind, that mean i'm coven :d
FalcoPunch Wed 18:17

that sounds legit to me weird you have a crossbow though?
Wed 18:17

maybe items are just randomly given
Pieton Wed 18:17

Leader - It really doesn't matter, lots of people have done lots of stuff
Wed 18:17

But whatever
TruthVagina Wed 18:17

I'm not saying I believe it to be false, I'm just saying I don't have evidence leading me to believe it is true
Birb Wed 18:17

Can we talk about Bloodhound forcing 2 lynches on D2
Wed 18:18

That would have been great against a rev corpse
Wed 18:18

Fgs
cakewolfy Wed 18:18

Well we have a whole load of people claiming to have items so...
Pieton Wed 18:18

Yeah, I think it's a terrible thing to do, but I think a Villager could easily do it thinking it wwas a good thing
Stronkman Wed 18:18

But why Bloodhound should be lying?
Wed 18:18

he had 1 vote
Wed 18:18

and none was pushing him
cakewolfy Wed 18:18

Birb, there are going to be two lynches if mod is to be believed.
TK241 Wed 18:18

what, was the two lynch thing from a player ability and not a random event?
Birb Wed 18:19

Too busy shouldn't join ext
TruthVagina Wed 18:19

Player abilit if BH is to be believed
Birb Wed 18:19

Damn
TK241 Wed 18:19

thats a waste
Stronkman Wed 18:19

why he should have attreacted so much heat on him?
Birb Wed 18:19

That would have been sweet. I hate the rev
Tanool Wed 18:19

I don't really believe bloodhound, but stronk has a point on why he would reveal. The only reason I see is if he is a character that wants/doesn't care to be lynched. Regardless of that we are hanging 2 people though
cakewolfy Wed 18:19

Like the thing that bothers me with the "Drunk Seer" claim is that he somehow knows he's drunk and sane. If I recall correctly Insane-seer and the others don't know if they're insane.
Pieton Wed 18:19

Stronk - Why isn't Bloodhound a Puppet or the Banshee?
leader Wed 18:19

2 lynch was claimed to be another new role ability by Bloodhound.
Stronkman Wed 18:20

yeah yeah right
Pieton Wed 18:20

Insane people tend to think they're Sane, Cake. Drunk people tend to know they're Drunk.
FalcoPunch Wed 18:20

huh interesting
leader Wed 18:20

@cakewolfy I agree
Birb Wed 18:20

Could be banshee trying to get lynched
Pieton Wed 18:20

You would
Wed 18:20

Like, my explanation for it there is perfectly obvious
Stronkman Wed 18:20

so you made a crazy claim to save yourself, and you are right
cakewolfy Wed 18:20

Puppet is the thing that came up in my mind.
Pieton Wed 18:20

God I wish there was a block function
Stronkman Wed 18:20

and for some reason someone else making a claim while he is not in danger...it's super sus
Tanool Wed 18:20

well he said it was single use right? Well we can just leave him be for now i guess. If we are forced to lynch 2 again tomorrow then we can come back to him
Pieton Wed 18:21

I'm done. Stronk and Leader are talking utter shit and talking about nothing but me
Birb Wed 18:21

Maybe there is more than one agitator. Would make sense since everyone hates rev
cakewolfy Wed 18:21

Did BloodHound say that he invoked the doublelynch?
Boon Wed 18:21

Rob seers may be concrete but for special ext, im not surprised if it got tweak new addition to seers
Birb Wed 18:21

Good counter
cakewolfy Wed 18:21

And if so did he confirm it's one time use or multiple time use?
Birb Wed 18:21

Makes me believe the role but annoyed about the wasted use
Pieton Wed 18:21

They have a focus and are ignoring everything else to try and get me lynched. I have talked a lot about everything that is happening in this game.
leader Wed 18:21

I am hoping to find the second person to lynch. I think bloodhound seems like a good choice.
Tanool Wed 18:21

that was how I read it but I could be wrong
Stronkman Wed 18:22

he said one time use
leader Wed 18:22

I also think we should absolutely not leave the top two people tied.
Pieton Wed 18:22

Anyway. I'm out, I would love to see Leader and Stronk (and Archy) dead.
cakewolfy Wed 18:22

Alright.
Wed 18:22

Well you have a crossbow so..
Pieton Wed 18:22

Not coming back because I'm just IRL annoyed with this.
leader Wed 18:22

Have a nice day.
Pieton Wed 18:22

Yeah, I will be trying to kill any of them tonight and viewing the others if I'm alive.
cakewolfy Wed 18:22

Take care.
Bloodhound Wed 18:22

My ability also says it requires a tied vote to trigger and day 2 usually ties so i figured it was a good chance of working. Also it was tied earlier before i spoke up and i coulda just been quiet and tied it near the end of day :/
Tanool Wed 18:23

ok, bye Pieton. See ya tomorrow hopefully
leader Wed 18:23

Well I have not done anything other than voice an opinion.
MobileClient Wed 18:23

Then why does the mod message say tied votes will not be respected Bloodhound? Seems like a contradiction to your claim unless I am missing sth.
Stronkman Wed 18:23

i was not even voting for you before...as you said yourself
Wed 18:24

now you want to kill me :D
FalcoPunch Wed 18:24

hold up bh what did you claim
SteamedHams Wed 18:25

Agitator? Lol. Name's kinda funny
leader Wed 18:25

I think maybe we should consider that bloodhound's claim and the mod messages are two different things. We could have an item that cause the mod message.
FalcoPunch Wed 18:25

good call
Tanool Wed 18:26

I'm gonna go too for a bit. I've gotta clean my room but I will get on before nightfall. In the meantime I'll stay asv since I don't know who to hang. See ya.
leader Wed 18:27

He is claiming some role that causes two lynches when a vote ends in a tie, the mod message says two people are going to be lynched regardless. So either Bloodhound is not truth telling or they are different things.
Stronkman Wed 18:27

well
Wed 18:28

the idea should be, if there is one who, say get 4 votes, he dies
Wed 18:28

and then another with 3 votes dies at random
leader Wed 18:28

So my educated guess at this point, is there are increased lynch roles and items in this game.
Stronkman Wed 18:28

this is what i mean for "two lynchs regardless"
leader Wed 18:29

I hope we can get someone in the clear lead, and someone in the clear lead for second. I worry if bloodhound is not lying we could end up with even more random deaths if we tie the lead in the votes.
Stronkman Wed 18:29

well, i would not worry about that
TheLoudOne Wed 18:30

Ok i read all stuff
Stronkman Wed 18:30

given that if two lynchs will happens
Wed 18:30

Town dies, and then me or Pieton
FalcoPunch Wed 18:30

just gonna asv i should be back by nightfall
Moderator Wed 18:30

FalcoPunch votes to lynch RobSeer
TheLoudOne Wed 18:30

why ppl want to or using stuff that gives xtra kills b4 we know who evils are? so stupid
Wed 18:31

if crossbow and agitatar are real they shud but for later
cakewolfy Wed 18:31

Especially Agitater at this point seems like a risk knowing the amount of puppets in play et all.
TK241 Wed 18:31

yeah not impressed with that use
Hives Wed 18:31

I've only gone through an eighth of the day, but there's a lot of discussion:
Wed 18:31

SpeedGameBot Wed 10:34 The targeted person should not have known so much about they were robbed. More than the fact that they were robbed
TheLoudOne Wed 18:32

so dumb
Stronkman Wed 18:32

but we are a truckload of lurkers
Hives Wed 18:32

As far as I've gone.
Stronkman Wed 18:32

so why risk something with such claim instead than just lay low?
Boon Wed 18:32

Increase the random for second lead. Someone need to gwt on redeploy to make it 3. If we still wanna aim fir the inactive
Moderator Wed 18:32

the_player votes to lynch Redeploy
the_player Wed 18:32

I got it
Moderator Wed 18:32

TheLoudOne votes to lynch Redeploy
Moderator Wed 18:32

TK241 votes to lynch Redeploy
the_player Wed 18:32

lol
TK241 Wed 18:33

I've not voted yet
Boon Wed 18:33

Thamks but that is too many lol
TheLoudOne Wed 18:33

laggy vote
Wed 18:33

i move
NewFaction Wed 18:33

wow! i wake up, log in, and see an entire game's worth of chat today
Wed 18:33

how am i going to keep up?
TK241 Wed 18:33

right what should we move to if an afk comes back
NewFaction Wed 18:33

never sleep again?
TK241 Wed 18:33

you dont.
Moderator Wed 18:34

TheLoudOne votes to lynch NewFaction
cakewolfy Wed 18:34

Good luck reading it all.
leader Wed 18:34

So we are voting that idle people are who should be killed, but at the same time accepting that we trust PieTon to kill active players.
TheLoudOne Wed 18:34

hi
NewFaction Wed 18:34

i tried. i gave up.
Wed 18:34

hey
cakewolfy Wed 18:34

Things you need to know: People claim items.
Wed 18:34

2 lynch
Wed 18:34

Pieton claims drunk seer with a crossbow.
NewFaction Wed 18:34

i saw kirkstein's claim
TK241 Wed 18:34

yeah, i know thats a bit dodgy and i dont get why he would
NewFaction Wed 18:34

thief, huh?
cakewolfy Wed 18:34

And Bloodhound claims to have invoked this horrible thing of two lynches.
NewFaction Wed 18:35

awesome
HeLicks Wed 18:35

NewFaction: the trick is to sleep when the game is asleep.
TheLoudOne Wed 18:35

I think drunk seer is fake claim bcos he can say he was drunk when he gets stalked so didnt visit
MilitXII Wed 18:35

:P
NewFaction Wed 18:35

yeah. a bit difficult with an 8 hour time difference, and a job and school. lol
MilitXII Wed 18:36

I think these itens don't even exists
Wed 18:36

XD
Stronkman Wed 18:36

that would be funny :D
Hives Wed 18:36

Sleep is for the weak.
Wed 18:36

So the new faction is "Infected"?
NewFaction Wed 18:36

i'll get plenty of sleep when i'm dead
Wed 18:36

:)
Stronkman Wed 18:36

"new game with mysterious new stuff, let's fake all the things we can since none knows :D !!!"
Hives Wed 18:37

Well, that's what I read.
Wed 18:37

Do we at least have any Gravedigger intel?
NewFaction Wed 18:37

i'm a new role: bitter ex-wife. at night, i burn the village to the ground!
cakewolfy Wed 18:37

It's Day two.
NewFaction Wed 18:37

lol
Hives Wed 18:37

I'm dumb.
cakewolfy Wed 18:37

Any corpses being dug tend to be well... Corpses.
Wed 18:38

Pretty rotten too while we're at it.
Hives Wed 18:38

Yeah, but there are seven.
Wed 18:38

Can I theorize?
cakewolfy Wed 18:38

9. Some just aren't rotten enough.
Wed 18:39

2 are pretty fresh.
Hives Wed 18:39

Hm...
cakewolfy Wed 18:40

A gravedigger can even find out the role from them as fresh as they are. Unfortunately that can only happen tomorrow at the earliest.
Hives Wed 18:40

Under the assumption that three are corpses, there's probably a new role (Puppetmaster like) that can speak with the dead and a combination of Djinn swap.
Wed 18:40

I have to go, eating lunch.
Wed 18:40

Take my theory with a grain of salt.
Stronkman Wed 18:42

guys, but none mention that Drunks are described in a different why on the site?
Wed 18:42

(different way?)
MilitXII Wed 18:43

What?
Stronkman Wed 18:43

or maybe it's an outdated desciption or what?
Wed 18:44

"The Drunk is a neutral player who does not currently know their actual role."
Boon Wed 18:44

Drunks will eventually sober in due time
Wed 18:44

Unless you are still on the drunk seer
Stronkman Wed 18:44

Pieton said he was drunk and today he discovred he was a seer?
leader Wed 18:45

I think H2P is not going to right about anything in this game. The drunk seer role in general does not make a lot of sense to me as described though. Sounds like a great role to allow evil players to claim seer without having to give checks.
Wed 18:45

No.
Boon Wed 18:45

Okay nlw i undeestand why you mock him so much
leader Wed 18:45

PieTon claimed a new role.
Boynoon Wed 18:45

Wat?
Thanwwes Wed 18:45

He said he was a 'drunk seer'
Boon Wed 18:45

Urgh phone typo
Stronkman Wed 18:45

Ah, ok
Wed 18:45

So he was not talking about the "Drunk" role on H2P, ok
the_player Wed 18:45

Pieton claimed a new role DrunkSeer where the seer check is not guaranteed
leader Wed 18:45

He claimed a role called, "drunk seer" not to be a player that came out of being drunk into a seer.
Boynoon Wed 18:45

What is drunk seer?
Wed 18:46

Damn
Wed 18:46

Ok
TheLoudOne Wed 18:46

anyway special seers dont get to kno they are special
Wed 18:46

like insane or whateva
Boon Wed 18:46

Yeap, at this point of time and for this ext, do not rely so much on htp and be aware that you will get new roles
TheLoudOne Wed 18:46

so i dont think drunk would either
Wed 18:46

its lie
the_player Wed 18:46

@TheLoudOne: thats a good point
leader Wed 18:46

IMO drunk seer is a made up role by an evil player trying to avoid a lynch. I guess another claim of drunk seer from someone else could help clear that up.
Day2Claim Wed 18:47

Would be kind of a shit role if they didn't know they were drunk (as it is a new role without a h2p explenation)
Moderator Wed 18:47

TheLoudOne votes to lynch Pieton
Day2Claim Wed 18:47

I mean, it's gimped anyway, but it would be extra shit
Stronkman Wed 18:47

It's just seem strange that a "Drunk" role exists
Day2Claim Wed 18:47

I think it makes sense
Stronkman Wed 18:47

and a new role is a "Drunk Seer"
Wed 18:47

unless the H2P is REALLY faulty
Day2Claim Wed 18:47

Drunk Militia, 50/50 shot yourself
Wed 18:47

top kek
the_player Wed 18:47

lol
Stronkman Wed 18:48

the "Drunk" role has ever been used before?
Shifted Wed 18:48

Good fucking god, I total underestimated this game, took me more than 1 hour to read back
Day2Claim Wed 18:48

yes
Boon Wed 18:48

Yes
Day2Claim Wed 18:48

lots of times
Wed 18:48

we had 2 or 3 in one game once
Stronkman Wed 18:48

umg, strange then
leader Wed 18:48

Drunks are used in Ext yes.
Wed 18:48

It is a way mod can balance the game in a few days.
Boon Wed 18:48

Special yes
GuihmoDelToro Wed 18:48

I don't know if this helps
Day2Claim Wed 18:49

The argument about other seers not knowing doesn't hold up
Stronkman Wed 18:49

yes, i readed the H2P
Boynoon Wed 18:49

Drunk Russian - plays Russian roulette with himself every night
GuihmoDelToro Wed 18:49

I am simply Drunk
Day2Claim Wed 18:49

the drunk gets told they were too drunk on a failed atempt
Wed 18:49

that makes sense
Stronkman Wed 18:49

just don't know how it was accurate or up to date
Thanwwes Wed 18:49

The possible info every day is tempting to keep
Day2Claim Wed 18:49

without their role explanation they would just be like "wtf, someone got me drunk?" or something
Wed 18:49

ooo
TheLoudOne Wed 18:49

hmmm mebbe
Day2Claim Wed 18:49

Now I want bartender to be a role
Stronkman Wed 18:49

I mean, there is a "Drunk" role, that is canon, and that does not know it's role
Day2Claim Wed 18:50

true
Stronkman Wed 18:50

and another type of "Drunk"...that knows it's rolem, but can fail
Day2Claim Wed 18:50

but how else id a drunk seer going to work
Stronkman Wed 18:50

sound strange, that's all
Boynoon Wed 18:50

There will be about 50 drunks this game for just mod balance
cakewolfy Wed 18:50

Bartender: Once per night you can give somebody too many drinks to do what the hell they planned to do.
Boon Wed 18:50

50?
TheLoudOne Wed 18:50

I still think its easy lie so an evil dont have to give checks
leader Wed 18:50

There are roles in other games where the stand in seer does not get info until the main seer is dead.
Day2Claim Wed 18:50

Bartender: Once per night you give someone too many drinks and they target a random player with their ability.
cakewolfy Wed 18:50

They should still be seen visiting or smth.
Boynoon Wed 18:51

That would be perfect
Stronkman Wed 18:51

not necessarily saying it's a lie
ImmortlOne Wed 18:51

is this related to a real claim or are you just putting stuff out there for people to grab onto?
Day2Claim Wed 18:51

me?
ImmortlOne Wed 18:51

speculating about potential roles isn't a good idea IMO
Day2Claim Wed 18:51

I'm just guessing what would be fun, not something real.
cakewolfy Wed 18:51

I'm semi-mocking the drunk seer claim basically.
Day2Claim Wed 18:51

If anyone claims that shit I'm voting them, because I'm just fucking around.
Stronkman Wed 18:52

however, as i said before, i'm accusing Pieton for his behavior
Wed 18:52

more than anything else
Day2Claim Wed 18:52

I just don't get why you wouldn't want to give them some nights to "have a go" with their role?
Boynoon Wed 18:52

*claims bartender*
cakewolfy Wed 18:52

I think the bartender as a role makes more sense than the drunk seer claim.
Day2Claim Wed 18:52

they are not going anywhere, probably.
leader Wed 18:52

So a drunk seer could be a seer that the mod can turn on when he things the village needs more info. That is the only reason I think "drunk" being in the name would make sense. I do not believe the claim or in the role.
TheLoudOne Wed 18:52

cos we have to lynch
Boynoon Wed 18:53

I need to vote
TheLoudOne Wed 18:53

and i wanna lynch an evil, not a random
Day2Claim Wed 18:53

if someone claims bartender I'm claiming Fat Controller and ordering the lynch train into the station.
Stronkman Wed 18:53

for now we a lyinching lurkers, if i'm not wrong
Boynoon Wed 18:53

Will I get molested by everyone if I asv?
Day2Claim Wed 18:53

just asv a lurker
leader Wed 18:53

PieTon is sus to me because of the entirety of the day, was sus at first, and the later behavior/claims did not help in my opinion.
Stronkman Wed 18:54

agrre with that
Day2Claim Wed 18:54

But at least Pieton is active.
leader Wed 18:54

Active evils are worse than AFKs IMO.
the_player Wed 18:54

^^
Day2Claim Wed 18:54

well.. duh
MilitXII Wed 18:54

xD
Boon Wed 18:54

@stronk I hope it is since you gave the impression that you are still new and wasnt sure of unknown role. it is common to have the fear of the unknown feeling when you find a new role hard to make sense.
Day2Claim Wed 18:54

but it's day 2 ffs
Wed 18:54

lol
Boynoon Wed 18:54

Who has lurked?
leader Wed 18:54

It is a day 2 where we need to lynch two people.
Stronkman Wed 18:54

on this i agree
Day2Claim Wed 18:54

fuck knows, I've been dipping in an out
MilitXII Wed 18:54

No one claimed a non-new role right?
Day2Claim Wed 18:54

BigNews?
cakewolfy Wed 18:54

There are a whole ton of lurkers to be honest.
Stronkman Wed 18:55

well, guys
Boynoon Wed 18:55

I'm on my phone so looking back is difficult
Stronkman Wed 18:55

for now my vote is'nt changing anything
Moderator Wed 18:55

Boynoon votes to lynch BigNews
leader Wed 18:55

I think people who sus PieTon should vote on PieTon.
Stronkman Wed 18:55

evne tho i'm still kiinda at risk because of that random second vote
Boynoon Wed 18:55

Big news it is
MilitXII Wed 18:55

I was waiting for the BigNews
cakewolfy Wed 18:55

"I think people who sus x should vote on x"
Wed 18:55

No shit.
Day2Claim Wed 18:56

It's so big it takes a while to reach us
Boon Wed 18:56

Lol
Day2Claim Wed 18:56

Leader, you seem to just be asking for a bandwaggon on someone who is claiming to have the most "useful" role of all the claims we have had so far
Shifted Wed 18:56

Ok, time for bed
Day2Claim Wed 18:56

That is sus..
Shifted Wed 18:56

I like Pieton, he plays exactly how I always play lol
MilitXII Wed 18:56

True
Shifted Wed 18:56

aggressive with a cause
Boynoon Wed 18:56

Due to the lag any info is 2 days out of date
MilitXII Wed 18:57

LOL xD
Day2Claim Wed 18:57

lol
Wed 18:57

went to move my vote to leader
Wed 18:57

was already there from asv
Stronkman Wed 18:57

i don't see so much of a badwagon for now
Day2Claim Wed 18:57

-STATEMENT OF INTENT-
Shifted Wed 18:57

I like it and kinda believe him, I don't think he should shoot Archie though
Wed 18:57

there are more sus ppl out there
Stronkman Wed 18:57

for me it's the opposite
TruthVagina Wed 18:57

Here we are
Day2Claim Wed 18:58

I wonder what the order is on items
Boynoon Wed 18:58

Archie?
Shifted Wed 18:58

btw my vote stays on D2C, she hasn't claimed yet
cakewolfy Wed 18:58

Like who Shifted?
TruthVagina Wed 18:58

Sorry for not talking for half an hour, just shattering my WR
Boynoon Wed 18:58

Items?
cakewolfy Wed 18:58

Who are more sus?
Day2Claim Wed 18:58

do theifs nick them before they are used (if someone tries to shoot the crossbow)
cakewolfy Wed 18:58

In your eyes?
Boynoon Wed 18:58

Items?
Day2Claim Wed 18:58

I like to see a "yoink" happening as they go to fire.
Boynoon Wed 18:58

What are items?
Day2Claim Wed 18:58

Oh
leader Wed 18:58

Okay well I will go to lurker as well then, as trying to explain anything to the people showing up and being active seems to be a bad idea.
Day2Claim Wed 18:58

you didn't read back?
TruthVagina Wed 18:59

Items are complicated. Theoretically you know if you have them
Day2Claim Wed 18:59

a reasonably large percentage of people seem to have items, both passive (hold them and stuff happens) or activatable (use to do something)
Shifted Wed 18:59

can you guys give me 30s? I will post a recap
Boynoon Wed 18:59

My phone is lagging so much I can't
Day2Claim Wed 18:59

there are theifs in the game who can steal items
cakewolfy Wed 18:59

Basically some people claim to have roles that can steal items. Those items provide things.
Day2Claim Wed 18:59

and some grave digger type dudes who can take items from dead people
Shifted Wed 18:59

#RECAP# Day 2
cakewolfy Wed 18:59

Like Pieton claims to have a crossbow that behaves like a shot on somebody.
Shifted Wed 18:59

* Someone found ''Corpse1-Corpse7 and Puppet1-Puppet4 joined the game'' in the api.
Wed 18:59

* 2 will be lynched today, even with a tied vote.
Wed 18:59

* Tomatoes claimed blocked N1
Bloodhound Wed 18:59

it's actually hell trying to keep up with this while working in a call center tbh
Shifted Wed 18:59

* Archy claimed a new role, CryptThief, village-aligned, can rob items from the dead. He robbed a corpse N1 but get nothing. He also lost his started-item ''Wolf Pelt'' N1, that protects holder from a night kill but make him to get seen a wolf in seer's eyes.
Wed 18:59

* Ext also claimed CriptThief, robbed ASV last night but got nothing.
Wed 19:00

* Kirkstein claimed a new role, Thief, village-aligned, can steal items from others and next night know what it does. Can't get blocked by normal protection. He robbed Archie N1.
Wed 19:00

* MapleSyrup also claimed Thief, stole from Giovanni N1
Wed 19:00

* HeLicks said his item ''An Eye'' got stolen. It lets him see and clease blight.
Wed 19:00

* Optimus said he has an item ''Steel Armor'', protect him from night kill.
Wed 19:00

* Items can be given to others, you can keep many but can only use 1 item at a time
Wed 19:00

* Pieton claimed a new role, Drunk Seer, village-aligned, with hit or miss seer check. He checked GoodBoi N1 but missed. He also has an ''1-Use Crossbow'' that can kill once.
Wed 19:00

* Bloodhound claimed a new role, Agitator, village-aligned, with 1-use night ability that gives the village two lynches IF there's a tied vote. He used it N1.
Wed 19:00

* Stevey claimed Drunk
Wed 19:00

* Infected forgot to use his ability N1
Wed 19:01

ok, wasted alot of time, bed now
Wed 19:01

bye
cakewolfy Wed 19:01

Did Infected claim?
Day2Claim Wed 19:01

Chairman wolf taking minutes in a suit is nice, have a scooby snack.
the_player Wed 19:01

You're my hero
cakewolfy Wed 19:01

Good night Shifted.
the_player Wed 19:01

Shifted
Wed 19:01

well done
GuihmoDelToro Wed 19:01

I claim Drunk too
leader Wed 19:01

I do believe PieTon can kill people at night, so I expect that evil team will target me tonight.
cakewolfy Wed 19:01

...
Day2Claim Wed 19:01

you can't claim Drunk
cakewolfy Wed 19:01

Why Del Toro...
Wed 19:01

Just Whay.
Day2Claim Wed 19:02

what.
leader Wed 19:02

PieTon also claimed to have an item that was a crossbow and has a one time night kill and said Archie is going to be shot tonight by him.
GuihmoDelToro Wed 19:02

I am Drunk
Day2Claim Wed 19:02

IRL?
cakewolfy Wed 19:02

A regular drunk???
Day2Claim Wed 19:02

timely response, stop reading the h2p please
cakewolfy Wed 19:02

Or something like a Drunk Seer.
GuihmoDelToro Wed 19:02

rEGULAR
Day2Claim Wed 19:02

er
Wed 19:02

you would see yourself as a villager..
Wed 19:03

wait
GuihmoDelToro Wed 19:03

so far yes
cakewolfy Wed 19:03

uuh
Day2Claim Wed 19:03

wut
GuihmoDelToro Wed 19:03

has not sobered up
cakewolfy Wed 19:03

Drunk sees themselves as drunk?
Thanwwes Wed 19:03

yes
GuihmoDelToro Wed 19:03

so three drunks now in this game
Day2Claim Wed 19:03

yeah that is right
Wed 19:03

I'm being a pleb ignore me
cakewolfy Wed 19:03

It was a rhetorical question towards D2C.
Day2Claim Wed 19:04

thought they were like sleepwalkers for a second and didn't know
Thanwwes Wed 19:04

claiming drunk is weird, but I guess good info
Stronkman Wed 19:04

this is what i got at first read
cakewolfy Wed 19:04

Is fucking stupid to be honest.
Wed 19:04

They don't necessarily sober up in villagurs.
Wed 19:04

Him claiming drunk keeps our eyes on them.
Day2Claim Wed 19:04

they sober up to rebalance factions
Boon Wed 19:04

Since you have no idea , yeah indeed
Thanwwes Wed 19:04

Well yeah they are neutral
Day2Claim Wed 19:05

if we kill a bunch of wolves, they will sober into a wolf
Wed 19:05

for example
GuihmoDelToro Wed 19:05

I just find it interesting that there might be a new character to make people drunk
Day2Claim Wed 19:05

it's not a dice roll, it's a rebalance
cakewolfy Wed 19:05

Yeah, the bartender role.
Wed 19:05

They can make people too drunk.
Day2Claim Wed 19:05

LOL
Wed 19:05

it's at the bar in my gym
Wed 19:06

post gains drink
Stronkman Wed 19:06

so it's not random
Wed 19:06

it's piloted by the mod ?
Boon Wed 19:06

They wld be suspicious regardless of what they sober into.
Wed 19:06

As balance
Day2Claim Wed 19:06

I believe so Stronkman
Boynoon Wed 19:06

Make people so drunk they fight with other drunks
Wed 19:07

One dies in the fight
Day2Claim Wed 19:07

unless they are earmarked before the game and their sobering is triggered by a faction reducing to X number
Wed 19:07

drunken brawl > pied piper
Thanwwes Wed 19:07

I believe they are just used for manual balancing
MilitXII Wed 19:07

I hope tomorrow we get a lot of info
Thanwwes Wed 19:08

Do you think items are randomly distributed?
Boon Wed 19:08

The thieves will give out a lot about rhe items i guess
Day2Claim Wed 19:08

can they steal and give on the same night?
Thanwwes Wed 19:08

if evils get items too, it makes things tricky
Day2Claim Wed 19:09

not the same item obviously
Wed 19:09

I really hope there are some absolutely shit items in there, like a muzzle
Wed 19:09

if you hold it you can't talk
Boon Wed 19:09

No idea about the thieves
Day2Claim Wed 19:11

So we are randomly killing 2/3 people at the moment
Wed 19:11

that drops to 1 if we don't tie the vote correct?
Stronkman Wed 19:11

it's not clear
Day2Claim Wed 19:12

did Bloodhound not clarify?
Wed 19:12

* Bloodhound claimed a new role, Agitator, village-aligned, with 1-use night ability that gives the village two lynches IF there's a tied vote. He used it N1.
Stronkman Wed 19:12

start of day says:
Day2Claim Wed 19:12

copy paste
Stronkman Wed 19:12

The village is a state of panic and will be lynching two people today. There can be no calming the mob today - they will not respect a tied vote.
Wed 19:12

seems to be quite clear on the fact that two people will die
Day2Claim Wed 19:12

so maybe they fucked up their claim?
Wed 19:13

or the info from above is wrong
Stronkman Wed 19:13

or a combination of the two
Day2Claim Wed 19:13

seems a weird "IF" to put emphasis on if it's wrong
Wed 19:13

I'll scroll back and find out what they said
Boon Wed 19:13

Or just need to be lynch due to irl or banshee/puppet
Stronkman Wed 19:13

BH said that the power will trigger on tied vote
Thanwwes Wed 19:14

N1 is a weird night to trigger it, when info is low usually on day 2
Stronkman Wed 19:15

he either messed up and was lying, and maybe he did not understood that the power would trigger EVEN with a tie
MilitXII Wed 19:15

I think these itens don't exists because of this weak distributive (less than 10 people said that interact with them); The weak (or maybe bad planned) claim from the Archy (Most of them says that they knew about itens at N1, but Archy says that got it at game start); And because of the two itens descriptions who i won't buy
MarcWide Wed 19:15

FINALLY
Day2Claim Wed 19:15

Weird
Wed 19:15

just read back on it
MarcWide Wed 19:15

I was planning on returning earlier but I didn't want to show up before having read what I missed.
Day2Claim Wed 19:15

I think he was supposed to activate his ability the night after a tied vote
Stronkman Wed 19:16

i could imagine that such a role exists
Thanwwes Wed 19:16

I originally the double vote was part of mod story
Day2Claim Wed 19:16

and then we get 2 the following day
Wed 19:16

that would be logical
Stronkman Wed 19:16

but that it works ONLY when it's a time...would be strange
MarcWide Wed 19:16

I have some thoughts on a few things. Let me get it all in one paragraph.
Stronkman Wed 19:16

(it's a tie)
Day2Claim Wed 19:16

Having to prempt a tied vote and then it kills two random people? Seems a bit much
Wed 19:17

invoking it after a tie makes much more sense
Stronkman Wed 19:17

yes, MilitXII
Day2Claim Wed 19:17

and as there was no vote on day 1, maybe he was allowed to activate it due to a bug?
Wed 19:17

forcing a double lynch?
Stronkman Wed 19:17

there are various quirck things but MAY be explained with peoiple getting new things wrong
Boon Wed 19:17

So possible banshee or pups
Kirkstein Wed 19:17

So general thinking is that the tied votes will get amittwn?
Day2Claim Wed 19:17

I can see how that would slip into the code
Stronkman Wed 19:17

however we are not sure
Kirkstein Wed 19:17

Lynched
Day2Claim Wed 19:17

if it's build on an if/else string
Boon Wed 19:18

Or really the agitator busy irl and able to press the button
Day2Claim Wed 19:18

Anyone following my logic, or am I just going down a rabbit hole?
MarcWide Wed 19:18

I think the CryptThieves are the thieves of the undead. So village alligned thieves are called "Thief" and undead alligened thieves are called "CryptThief" that leaves us thieves from coven and wolves perhaps. Did Bloodhound claim Agitator was an item he used last night or did he claim Agitator as his role?
Stronkman Wed 19:18

Said it's a role
Boon Wed 19:18

Role
Stronkman Wed 19:19

although he gave a confusion description
Day2Claim Wed 19:19

he did
Stronkman Wed 19:19

which seems to clash with the start day message
MobileClient Wed 19:19

I think the mod message is pretty clear and something horrible will happen if we tie votes. Always trust the mod messages. Bloodhound probably just butched his claim, or is banshee/zombie/puppet/etc or is part of some evil faction that has some goal like prevent the village from achieving what the mod messages say. *puts on tinfoil hat*
Boon Wed 19:19

However, there' contradiction. I see it as just wanna get kynch
Wed 19:19

As banshee or pups
Wed 19:20

Well we have a tie vote now
Stronkman Wed 19:20

It should works this way: two player with most votes dies
Kirkstein Wed 19:20

I trust the mod and I am not inclined to let it go to a tie
MarcWide Wed 19:20

Also I really don't see a reason to lynch Pieton. You may not agree with his style, but I think both the CrossBow and his drunk seer claim will be useful.
Stronkman Wed 19:20

whenever there is a time, the player to die dies at random
Kirkstein Wed 19:21

Even though i think as stronkman thinks
Wed 19:21

That a tie vote obly means that two with the highest votes will die
Wed 19:21

Only*
Stronkman Wed 19:21

for now there three tied at 4
Boon Wed 19:22

Just lynch 1
Stronkman Wed 19:22

assuming things stays like this i ASSUME 2 of them will die at random
Moderator Wed 19:22

MarcWide votes to lynch ImNotTownSRSLY
MarcWide Wed 19:22

My vote is because NotTown voted without saying anything.
Wed 19:23

I'd like to see two silent players in the lead with votes. I don't want to risk losing Pieton atm.
Wed 19:24

Archy=2 (Arwooo, MilitXII), Arwooo=2 (GoodBoi, Chiaroscuro), BigNews=1 (Boynoon), Bloodhound=2 (HeLicks, RobSeer), Cat=2 (Archy, cakewolfy), Chiaroscuro=1 (TruthVagina), Day2Claim=1 (Shifted), Giovannigirll=1 (Hives), GoodBoi=1 (Infected), GuihmoDelToro=1 (FirstSeerCheck), Hives=1 (SteamedHams), ImNotTownSRSLY=5 (Birb, OptimusStein, The_The, MobileClient, MarcWide), Infected=1 (ShameMcC), MilitXII=1 (Wessiah), Monky=1 (ImNotTownSRSLY), NightOneDeath=1 (MapleSyrupWolf), NotSus=1 (SpeedGameBot), OptimusStein=1 (Kirkstein), Pieton=4 (TheLoudOne, WeWubMasons, Stronkman, leader), Redeploy=4 (the_player, Thanwwes, Boon, TK241), RobSeer=1 (FalcoPunch), SpeedGameBot=1 (WaterTrousers), SteamedHams=1 (Monky), Stronkman=3 (Jim85, Pieton, Destroy944), TK241=1 (ImmortlOne), TheLoudOne=2 (bewseer27, Tanool), WaterTrousers=2 (NightOneDeath, NotSus), Wessiah=1 (Giovannigirll), cakewolfy=2 (tomaTOES, GuihmoDelToro), ext=1 (Masontwo), leader=1 (Day2Claim), the_player=1 (Cat)
Wed 19:25

Infected is also someone that stands out as sus to me.
Wed 19:25
Wed 19:25

Would someone like to comment on my theory on CryptThieves being members of the undead?
Day2Claim Wed 19:26

Agreed, although I'm sus of Leaders play, but I'm hanging around and can move the vote of any people try some shenanigans.
Wed 19:26

theory wise
Wed 19:26

I don't buy it
MarcWide Wed 19:26

Would make sense to have thieves in both good and evil factions. Undeads have lots of business in GY so thieves visiting that would make sense imo.
Day2Claim Wed 19:26

I think town needs a way to retrieve items from dead people, it makes sense to me
Wed 19:26

I think evil faction thieves exist, but are hiding.
MarcWide Wed 19:27

Hmmm. Thanks for your input
Boon Wed 19:27

Village aligned thieved yes but the win condition may be in hiding
Wed 19:28

Just like masons vs the illu
Day2Claim Wed 19:28

I did suggest there may be an item related win-con
Wed 19:28

a collector or something
Boon Wed 19:28

^
Moderator Wed 19:29

MilitXII votes to lynch Redeploy
Day2Claim Wed 19:29

but so far I've shitposted about 5 roles and that was the only one I was serious on
Wed 19:29

so it was probably glossed over :p
MilitXII Wed 19:33

So lasts 27 minutes to night comes right?
Day2Claim Wed 19:35

I think so
Masontwo Wed 19:39

Nightfall is 21:00
Wed 19:39

So just under 90 minutes
Day2Claim Wed 19:39

depends where you are ;)
Wed 19:40

but good to know, thanks
Boon Wed 19:40

Are we on tie or lynch? Actually, what do we wanna see for Mod's message? Truth?
Masontwo Wed 19:40

Hence, why I added the under 90 minutes part
Day2Claim Wed 19:40

well the in game timer is set to UK time
Boon Wed 19:41

Daylighy saving atm
ImmortlOne Wed 20:03

Gut feeling, I believe BloodHound
MilitXII Wed 20:03

Hey Marc, did you copy/paste the voting situation? How?
Bloodhound Wed 20:09

god i want to shoot myself work is the worst today
Wed 20:09

okay, on break for a couple minutes, what did i miss?
Day2Claim Wed 20:09

we want you to explain your role better
Wed 20:10

it's confusing / you were not clear enough
Bloodhound Wed 20:11

sure, though tb hi'm not even sure exactly how it works
Day2Claim Wed 20:11

try and explain anyway
Bloodhound Wed 20:12

I activate my ability at nighrt\t. It says, if the vote is tied the day after I activate my power, then two people will be lynched randomly from the highest number of votes
Day2Claim Wed 20:12

so you have to predict a tie?
Bloodhound Wed 20:12

it's odd phrasing tbh since it says the vote has to be tied, but then it says from the higest votes
Day2Claim Wed 20:12

and you only get to use it once per game?
Bloodhound Wed 20:12

I think so?
Wed 20:12

yeah once per game
Day2Claim Wed 20:12

how is that helpful to town?
Bloodhound Wed 20:12

once per game it says i whip the village into a frenzy?
Day2Claim Wed 20:13

and you can randomly kill town roles?
Bloodhound Wed 20:13

i assume it's so town can get two people lynched out of the most suspicious people
Wed 20:13

it says randomly, so if a village role is in the higest votes, i guess?
Day2Claim Wed 20:14

tie two people on X and kill them both
Wed 20:14

after you use your one time ability
Wed 20:14

seems a bit.. shit?
ImmortlOne Wed 20:14

to be fair.. zealot isn't useful to village, but it's still a village role
Bloodhound Wed 20:14

i think it's supposed to be for if we have a lot of suspicious and dangerous roles and we can't afford to let both live? but it's kinda
MarcWide Wed 20:14

BUt is ita role or an item?
MobileClient Wed 20:14

Ok, so I guess what you mean is that the highest votes get lynched and if there is a tie then the lynches are randomly selected?
Bloodhound Wed 20:14

not easy to use
ImmortlOne Wed 20:14

some cynical people up in here
Bloodhound Wed 20:14

it's a role, i don't have an item
Day2Claim Wed 20:14

zealot just hurries games up and is put in to stop stalling / tied votes
Wed 20:14

this is just weird
Wed 20:14

as you have to make the vote tied to make it work
Wed 20:15

interesting it it triggers a zealot kill though.
Bloodhound Wed 20:15

Randomly selected from the highest votes specifically, so i'd assume from the people who tied with hghest votes?
NewFaction Wed 20:15

i'm back. what did i miss? lol
Wed 20:15

this game is sooo crazy
Bloodhound Wed 20:15

yeah that's why I did it on day 2, cause day two almost always ties and i ain't gonna be able to predict a random tie later on
Day2Claim Wed 20:15

I guess so Bloodhound, but I still think it's shit.
MobileClient Wed 20:15

So it doesnt need a tie. Fine. I can imagine that role.
Bloodhound Wed 20:15

i didn't say it wasn't shit tbh
Day2Claim Wed 20:15

I know :)
Kirkstein Wed 20:15

This game is supposed to be crazy.
Bloodhound Wed 20:15

it specifically says if the vote is tied the day after i activate my power :/
Wed 20:16

it's odd wording tho so i'm not 100% on how it works
Day2Claim Wed 20:16

so you have to predict / encourage a tied vote?
MobileClient Wed 20:16

To what is that if connected in the sentence?
ImmortlOne Wed 20:16

looking back at the mod message though...
Wed 20:16

it sounds like we're lynching 2 people AND we won't respect a tie
Kirkstein Wed 20:16

Bh did you do that last night?
ImmortlOne Wed 20:16

not.. IF it's a tie, there's 2 lynches
Bloodhound Wed 20:16

the if is the beginning of the sentence
Day2Claim Wed 20:16

he did
Kirkstein Wed 20:17

Oh.
Bloodhound Wed 20:17

yes i did
Kirkstein Wed 20:17

That ecplains it
Wed 20:17

Explains
Bloodhound Wed 20:17

so uh
Day2Claim Wed 20:17

it doesnt
Bloodhound Wed 20:17

trial by fire
Day2Claim Wed 20:17

the mod thing is different
Bloodhound Wed 20:17

idk if the mod thing is related to me or not
Kirkstein Wed 20:17

The phrasing is diffetent
Day2Claim Wed 20:17

mod says 2 die
Kirkstein Wed 20:17

Different
Bloodhound Wed 20:17

mine says nothing about a message being sent if i activate
Day2Claim Wed 20:17

Bloodhound says only 1 dies as normal UNLESS we tie vote
Wed 20:17

so I think we have two things going on
Bloodhound Wed 20:18

I'm pretty sure yeah, if it doesn't tie even if i activated my power, i don't think it works
Wed 20:18

i don't know if that wastes it or not since it's once per game
Day2Claim Wed 20:18

New moon theory still in play. :)
Bloodhound Wed 20:18

god someone please shoot me so i don't have to go back to worjk
Wed 20:18

there's a 50 call queue and i hate my life
Day2Claim Wed 20:19

My thoughts on Bloodhound though
Wed 20:19

it's a crap role, that has been spent and I'm not even sure I buy it
Wed 20:19

to me that all adds up to sus / a reasonable lynch
Kirkstein Wed 20:19

It is a damn crappy eole
Wed 20:19

role
Bloodhound Wed 20:19

that's fair, and it is kinda crap but
Kirkstein Wed 20:19

No offense bh
Bloodhound Wed 20:19

i'm busy af and can't pay much attention and day 2 always ties so i yolod it
Kirkstein Wed 20:19

Its not even worth faking it
Day2Claim Wed 20:19

counter argument, if someone was going to make up a role, they would make up something less shit?
Kirkstein Wed 20:20

Counter argument.. its so crappy it cant be crapoier
Wed 20:20

Crappier
Day2Claim Wed 20:20

:D
Bloodhound Wed 20:20

the thief roles sound more fun even if a bit useless with not that many items existing...if they exist for real
Kirkstein Wed 20:20

So it must be true
Boon Wed 20:20

It's a tie atm so we see hw it goes
Day2Claim Wed 20:20

There seems to be loads of items
Wed 20:20

we have had a ton of hits on them already
Bloodhound Wed 20:20

okay i'm back to work in 3 minutes
Kirkstein Wed 20:20

I am sure almost half of you have them
Bloodhound Wed 20:21

don't have lunch for another 2 hours save me
Kirkstein Wed 20:21

But not everyone wants them stolen
Day2Claim Wed 20:21

I think it's closer to 30%
Wed 20:21

so 20 items-ish
Kirkstein Wed 20:21

40 percent
Wed 20:21

But 30 works too
Bloodhound Wed 20:21

if i have my ability right, if the two at 5 stay at 5 votes when night comes they should both die
Kirkstein Wed 20:21

I dont know. My reaction was one to watch
Day2Claim Wed 20:22

Funny if two extra random people die Bloodhound
Tanool Wed 20:22

hey I'm back, what's up?
Kirkstein Wed 20:22

New role that i have no idea what to do with
Day2Claim Wed 20:22

or extra / other
Bloodhound Wed 20:22

jfc i'll accept a lynch myself if that happens
Wed 20:22

aight i gotta go, bbl
Kirkstein Wed 20:22

4 people dying qould be funny
Wed 20:22

Damn this is lagging
MilitXII Wed 20:22

Whats my meme?
Day2Claim Wed 20:23

Not sure
Tanool Wed 20:23

i don't know
Boon Wed 20:23

Game refrsh ability i think. If it's true, we might need you further in days provided you are still alive
MobileClient Wed 20:27

So if Bloodhound role and the mod message are 2 different things then 3 people should get lynched today? Or how does it work?
Tanool Wed 20:27

i have no idea
leader Wed 20:29

It would not be out of the question with us ending this day is a tie ends with 4 people being randomly lynched.
Wed 20:30

We have an item activated or a mod play that tells us we must lynch 2 people and ties will not be honored, and we have an ability that says 2 people will die if the day ends in a tie. We have no guarantee they cancel each other out.
Boon Wed 20:31

That would jeopardize pie if we still want him alive
leader Wed 20:31

I think it is a high possibility that who the top votes are is irrelevant if it ends in a tie.
Day2Claim Wed 20:32

you think it will just rng 4 people to die?
Wed 20:32

from everyone in the game
leader Wed 20:32

The message specifically says ties will not be respected.
Boon Wed 20:32

But bH ability differs
Day2Claim Wed 20:32

but that's open to interpretation
Boon Wed 20:32

It is base on highest votes
Day2Claim Wed 20:33

could be everyone in the tie dies, or anything really
leader Wed 20:33

Of course it is. Ya so the top two votes would die and 2 random people.
Wed 20:33

Or ya basically who knows, but why leave it a tie?
Day2Claim Wed 20:33

yeah, that's more reasonable
Wed 20:33

I thought you were saying all 4 would be random, which seems unlikely
leader Wed 20:33

I don't know what I think will happen, but I do not understand leaving the votes in a tie.
Day2Claim Wed 20:34

getting rid of two lurkers in one day
Wed 20:34

seems reasonable
Boon Wed 20:34

So between the 2 highest votes, in your opinion, who shld we lynch?
Wed 20:34

@leader
Day2Claim Wed 20:34

fwif I'm not voting on either of them
Wed 20:34

fwiw*
leader Wed 20:35

Neither am I.
Day2Claim Wed 20:35

I'm for the tie purely out of curiosity and wanting to investigate A) the mechanic and B) Bloodhounds claim
Boon Wed 20:35

That doesnt really answer ur qs and mine tho @leader
leader Wed 20:36

I am on the third place vote getter ATM. Not too surprised we can't make that lynch happen, he is probably part of an evil faction so they aren't voting for him, and has disclosed himself to his friends so they are not voting for him.
Wed 20:37

Of the AFK people who have not spoken I am supposed to have an opinion on one more than the other?
Boon Wed 20:37

Ahh i see.
leader Wed 20:37

I think we should lynch the most likely evil person.
Wed 20:38

Which in my opinion right now if I could pick 2 deaths I would pick PieTon and Bloodhound.
Day2Claim Wed 20:38

no offence, but that's retarded.
NewFaction Wed 20:38

don't we need to break the tie? i haven't voted yet. just trying to figure out where to place it
leader Wed 20:38

I think also the drunk claims would not be a horrible choice. At least it would not cause damage.
Boon Wed 20:39

Huh?
Day2Claim Wed 20:39

that's more reasonable
Wed 20:39

Keep the tie (is my opinion)
leader Wed 20:39

Retarted is an offensive term. I think wanting to do something that is likely to cause more deaths is unreasonable.
Day2Claim Wed 20:40

I don't agree with jumping on Pieton and is why my vote is on Leader
Boon Wed 20:40

Im curious of rhe mechanic as well
Day2Claim Wed 20:40

I know it's offensive, hence the "no offence" ;)
leader Wed 20:40

So we risk killing two extra random people to see how the mechanic works. That makes total sense.
Boon Wed 20:40

It will solve the mystery of the day
Day2Claim Wed 20:40

why are you so sure it's random people?
leader Wed 20:40

Putting no offense in front of an offensive term does not make it less offensive, just use some other way to call me stupid.
Wed 20:41

I am not sure, I am pretty sure if we are not tied it will not be random.
Day2Claim Wed 20:41

Sorry for triggering you el capitano
leader Wed 20:42

I am not triggered, I just don't like people using hate speech.
Day2Claim Wed 20:42

LOL get the fuck out
Boon Wed 20:42

D2c didnt
Wed 20:42

I yhink you misunderstood here
NewFaction Wed 20:42

why risk more than two deaths, when we can break the tie and just have two people lynched?
Wed 20:42

not sure i'm understanding the logic of that
Day2Claim Wed 20:42

so for me
leader Wed 20:43

exactly
Wed 20:43

and is it not quite odd for someone to be arguing for that
Day2Claim Wed 20:43

it verifies / helps us understand the Bloodhound situation. I'm also curios of the mechanic, so I'm selfishly looking towards what is interesting, not what makes game sense.
Wed 20:43

clear pro's and con's though
Pieton Wed 20:43

Lol. Sound. Go in peace Village and remember the toerags who voted a claimed Seer with a Vig Kill off *waves and kisses*
leader Wed 20:43

I am trying to get the person who I think is evil lynched and win the game. You can not care about winning the game, I do.
NewFaction Wed 20:44

i understand wanting know the mechanics of it.
Day2Claim Wed 20:44

Peiton you are not at risk atm
The_The Wed 20:44

As a side note retarded really isn't an ok term to use.
NewFaction Wed 20:44

what if the mechanics include lynching the tied votes plus an additional 10 people.
leader Wed 20:44

Thank you The_The.
NewFaction Wed 20:44

seems rather dangerous to me
Pieton Wed 20:44

Oh, I didn't notice Redeploy as being on 5
Boon Wed 20:44

10 is abit too farfwtch
NewFaction Wed 20:44

agreed leader.
Boon Wed 20:44

I dnt think i will agree on that
Wed 20:45

Farfetch*
Moderator Wed 20:45

farfwtch
the_player Wed 20:45

lol
Boon Wed 20:45

Lol
Wed 20:45

Shshhshs
the_player Wed 20:45

add that to the theme
Day2Claim Wed 20:45

Disagree The_The, but respect peoples opinions on it and will reign in my "hate speech".
Wed 20:45

o/
Jim85 Wed 20:46

HIYAAAAA! I'm back and I don't like piling on people just because they didn't speak. But then the alternative is this...
Moderator Wed 20:46

Jim85 votes to lynch Pieton
Day2Claim Wed 20:46

seriously..
cakewolfy Wed 20:46

Because of his claim?
Jim85 Wed 20:46

Now THREE folks have 5 votes and we don't want that now do we?
Day2Claim Wed 20:46

once again
leader Wed 20:46

Hopefully we can get one more and break the tie.
Day2Claim Wed 20:46

he is the most "useful" claim we have.
the_player Wed 20:46

i can wave off
Day2Claim Wed 20:46

and you all want to kill him?
Moderator Wed 20:46

the_player votes to lynch Boon
cakewolfy Wed 20:46

"useful"
Jim85 Wed 20:46

I find that crossbow shot threat for tonight lame.
leader Wed 20:46

His claim is he is going to kill someone else tonight.
Day2Claim Wed 20:47

he backed off on that
Jim85 Wed 20:47

I find Archy more convincing than him.
Wed 20:47

OK, so a lurker then?
the_player Wed 20:47

Redeploy is down to 4
Moderator Wed 20:47

Jim85 votes to lynch ImNotTownSRSLY
Day2Claim Wed 20:47

sure, kill a lurker
Jim85 Wed 20:47

Happy now?
Day2Claim Wed 20:47

kind of
Wed 20:47

still wanted a tie for curiosity
Wed 20:47

sadtimes
Chiaroscuro Wed 20:47

sorry I've been away for a bit
Wed 20:47

does moving my vote somewhere help
the_player Wed 20:47

6v4v4 atm
Jim85 Wed 20:48

I am disappointed no more votes have been put on Stronkman, SteveySav, Infected, and Birb
Day2Claim Wed 20:48

Tie vote for chaos, pile on for lurker lynch
Wed 20:48

your choice
leader Wed 20:48

I don't believe him, I assume he is an evil night killer and he was talking about killing someone who was likely an important role to get away with it.
The_The Wed 20:48

God knows how many puppets (or if there are any puppets) there are in those stacks.
Jim85 Wed 20:48

I don't want to tie because I might get killed myself.
the_player Wed 20:48

Who was Petion planning on killing?
leader Wed 20:48

Archie.
Boon Wed 20:48

3 targets
the_player Wed 20:48

ty
cakewolfy Wed 20:48

Either Stronk/Archie/Sav I believe.
Boon Wed 20:49

Leader
Wed 20:49

Stronk
cakewolfy Wed 20:49

Leader yeah instead of Sav.
Boon Wed 20:49

Xnat remember
Wed 20:49

Cant*
leader Wed 20:49

and then alter decided to kill me after I didn't get on board with that.
Wed 20:49

later
Day2Claim Wed 20:49

you have been overly aggressive all game
Wed 20:49

I'd kill you too
NewFaction Wed 20:49

this village really IS in a frenzy! lol
Day2Claim Wed 20:49

:D
cakewolfy Wed 20:50

What do you expect when we HAVE to lynch.
leader Wed 20:50

I have stated one opinion based on how someone acted, I think it is true, that is what I think so I am stating it.
Boon Wed 20:50

Mod is happy
Day2Claim Wed 20:50

10 minute warning!
Jim85 Wed 20:50

Stronk behaved VERY odd at first, asking if we get smited if we don't vote twice in a row.
Day2Claim Wed 20:50

I think that was because of the mod message
Wed 20:50

/shrug
Jim85 Wed 20:51

Then he announced the puppet SteveySav when I accused him of being a puppet.
leader Wed 20:51

PieTon was trying to bully everyone, I am not going for that. I have a few people who agree we are one vote move away from killing what I think is evil, so I try for that.
Jim85 Wed 20:51

Plus his defensive behavior seemed evil to me.
the_player Wed 20:51

on the topic of puppets: there were 4 if i recall. how certain are we that they are not embedded in this tower of votes?
Boon Wed 20:51

Bully?
Jim85 Wed 20:52

Leader, I think people have moved on from that now.
cakewolfy Wed 20:52

I'm pretty sure there are at least some in there.
the_player Wed 20:52

super.
Moderator Wed 20:52

Day2Claim votes to lynch ImNotTownSRSLY
the_player Wed 20:52

(read with excessive sarcasm)
Day2Claim Wed 20:52

hadn't considered that aspect to be honest
The_The Wed 20:52

Well, they were called puppet1-4
Jim85 Wed 20:52

I can follow your reasoning but I'm not willing to risk getting lynched myself because of balance.
Day2Claim Wed 20:52

reluctantly moving away from leader
The_The Wed 20:52

Not 100% at they are all puppets
cakewolfy Wed 20:53

To somebody who is not town at least.
The_The Wed 20:53

But I would expect there to be some in there if there is a coven in the game.
Wed 20:53

Which seems likely.
the_player Wed 20:53

API showed corpses and puppets: they are a certainty
Jim85 Wed 20:53

I am still inclined to go for Pieton though.
Day2Claim Wed 20:53

what's this API stuff?
the_player Wed 20:54

https://archive.werewolv.es/extra/liveview#game=ext-300&phase=Day2
cakewolfy Wed 20:54

You can check who joined the game via archive.
Jim85 Wed 20:54

I've not had time to read the last hour of chat or so.
the_player Wed 20:54

cehck pregame
Wed 20:54

will show dummy players by generic names
Day2Claim Wed 20:54

ah ok
Jim85 Wed 20:54

But I agree he piled sus on Archy for no convincing reason.
cakewolfy Wed 20:54

The players who joined extra are named Puppet1-4 and Corpse 1-7.
Boon Wed 20:54

7 corpses 4 pups
Moderator Wed 20:54

ext votes to lynch MarcWide
Jim85 Wed 20:55

And I'm still not convinced he won't shoot him tonight.
ext Wed 20:55

I assume I didn't already vote.
Moderator Wed 20:55

Jim85 votes to lynch Pieton
The_The Wed 20:55

It shows the names corpses and puppets, doesn't mean they are what they're named.
the_player Wed 20:55

fair enough
The_The Wed 20:55

It's 300. I'm not willing to believe anything is as it says it is.
Bloodhound Wed 20:55

I haven't voted but i haven't been able to read neough of the game to have non bandwagon suspicion rn
the_player Wed 20:55

that would eb anew trick; but i'm not ruling anything out
Jim85 Wed 20:55

If he is not afraid of a succubus he might be a vampire or some other night-immune role.
Day2Claim Wed 20:56

assist in lynching the lurker Bloodhound
Moderator Wed 20:56

NewFaction votes to lynch Birb
Day2Claim Wed 20:56

strongly disagree with lynching a half-seer claim
Boon Wed 20:56

He did holler to the succu
Jim85 Wed 20:56

He hasn't got nearly enough votes on him.
NewFaction Wed 20:56

before i forget to vote
Jim85 Wed 20:56

He did holler, yes.
NewFaction Wed 20:56

what are we doing? tying? lynching?
Jim85 Wed 20:56

Does that make him village?
Day2Claim Wed 20:56

lynching it seems
Wed 20:56

due to puppet risk
cakewolfy Wed 20:56

We are doing stuff and nobody knows what.
NewFaction Wed 20:56

lol
Boon Wed 20:56

I didnt mean just bcz of that hollering
Jim85 Wed 20:57

You have three minutes to change my mind if that's what you wanna do.
Day2Claim Wed 20:57

the piling on Pieton is sus and silly for today.
Wed 20:57

we can always kill him later
Jim85 Wed 20:57

If he is a vampire, he may have a new recruit.
Boon Wed 20:57

Laggy phone and also im onredeploy
Day2Claim Wed 20:57

if he was vamp he wouldn't making claims like that
Wed 20:58

on d2
Jim85 Wed 20:58

I find it odd that he went aggressive when I asked him if he was a visiting role.
Wed 20:58

Just to check if shooting a crossbow would equate to a visit.
Day2Claim Wed 20:58

probably because he visited someone (based on the claim) and felt pressured to claim?
Wed 20:58

sidenote: items like that must count as visits surely?
leader Wed 20:58

If he is a shifter we will not be able to kill him later. I just suspect he is part of a night killing faction and is a killing role. So wolf shifter makes perfect sense for how he has been acting.
Jim85 Wed 20:58

How do you view Archy exactly?
cakewolfy Wed 20:58

They should.
Jim85 Wed 20:59

@D2C
Day2Claim Wed 20:59

i'd need to read back, but he wasn't top of my sus list
the_player Wed 20:59

I wonder if the 'DrunkSeer' does not get their check if they are still seen visiting
Jim85 Wed 20:59

Because he claimed being robbed first, so it's not like he made up these items.
Moderator Wed 20:59

An owl hoots...
Day2Claim Wed 20:59

the items exist
Wed 20:59

that seems clear
Wed 20:59

if they don't
Jim85 Wed 20:59

So trust Archy?
Day2Claim Wed 20:59

im laughing my ass off
Wed 20:59

yeah
Wed 21:00

well
Boon Wed 21:00

Why wld anyone wanna claom role first
Day2Claim Wed 21:00

no
MilitXII Wed 21:00

Not for me
Wed 21:00

But well
Day2Claim Wed 21:00

items dont = faction
Lynched Wed 21:00

ImNotTownSRSLY was lynched by the village
Lynched Wed 21:00

Pieton was lynched by the village
Moderator Wed 21:00

It was the newcomers to our village - the crusaders - that had given us the edge in the charge against the Elders and their undead abominations. They had protection from the Elder’s infernal magic and their weapons proved more effective than ours.
Wed 21:00

Atop their corrupted altar, the Elder’s leader held a perfect sphere. It appeared to be some sort of stained glass and glowed a deep purple colour. He chanted as he slowly raised it - or rather it slowly raised him.
Wed 21:00

A crusader sprinted towards him, sword drawn, ready to strike. Alas, he did not manage to close the distance before the orb reached its apex. The cavern was flooded with a sudden, blinding light...
Moderator Thu 09:00

A new day begins...
Killed Thu 09:00

MarcWide was killed during the night
Killed Thu 09:00

Stronkman was killed during the night
Killed Thu 09:00

SpeedGameBot was killed during the night

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