ext-044 day 5 | online mafia game replay

Replay

This is a log of a game of werewolves started on the 28th July 2016 on a 24 hour cycle (12h day, 12h night).
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Day 4
Killed

Luke was killed during the night
Day 5
Moderator

The sun rises, the village is safe from the werewolves for now. Discuss who you think is a wolf, soon you will get a chance to lynch them
Rey

Active during the last day
Vader

Active during the last day
Maul

Active during the last day
Obiwan

Active during the last day
HanSolo

Active during the last day
Mace

Active during the last day
KyloRen

Active during the last day
Lobot

Active during the last day
Palpatine

Active during the last day
Luke

Active during the last day
Leia

Active during the last day
Moderator

Voting is now open to lynch the next werewolf
Vader Mon 10:02

So Luke could have been innocent I guess, or SS was Luke and is now someone else
Mon 10:02

Possibly someone I already checked
Mon 10:02

I can reveal another check whenever
Moderator

Maul votes to put HanSolo on trial
Mace Mon 10:08

I believe Luke was hm. And Leia was ww. So I think we have 3 wolves left but I'm out of ideas at the moment.
Mon 10:10

What's suspicious about HanSolo?
Vader Mon 10:15

One thing which I think is true is that there is only 1 villager who I have not discovered, except for the lycan
Mon 10:16

I think odds are he could be, but that is not evidence
Mace Mon 10:20

You found a villager tonight?
Vader Mon 10:20

Mace you'll be happy to know I checked you last night
Mace Mon 10:20

Cool
Vader Mon 10:20

I can only assume from the silence that we have lost the harlot
Rey Mon 10:29

Morning all
Mace Mon 10:47

Is HanSolo suspicious because he tried to split the vote just before midnight?
Vader Mon 10:57

Hi Rey
Rey Mon 11:05

Hi Vader
Mon 11:06

Sorry I've not been around much
Mon 11:06

Could someone catch me up on what's happened over the last few days
Mace Mon 11:07

Yesterday Luke claimed huntsman. Vader claimed seer. We had our first lynch - Leia (not a confirmed wolf).
Mon 11:08

Seer cleared Quigon, Maul, Lobot
Rey Mon 11:14

Do we think Luke was telling the truth? He died tonight and that seems a bit suspicious?
Mon 11:14

Could he have been SS and shifted into a "confirmed" villager?
Mace Mon 11:15

Could be. But I choose to believe he was hm.
Mon 11:16

Huntsman can't protect himself
Vader Mon 11:31

I think I need to read up on yesterday, Luke and Leia had a sibling discussion and I missed most of it
Mon 11:31

But yes I would say him dying straight after claiming HM is a bit fishy
Mon 11:32

But then, wolves could kill him to make it look suspicious
Mon 11:32

:/
Mace Mon 11:35

Why didn't they go for Vader? He was most likely unprotected because huntsman protected him last night (Luke said so before Vader claimed seer).
Mon 11:36

I think making Luke look suspicious doesn't really give them an advantage. He claimed to be a huntsman, no real info there.
Vader Mon 11:36

That is true
Mon 11:37

I did kind of expect to die since I came out, I think other roles should definitely think about coming out at this point
Mace Mon 11:39

I think the wolves either don't know if the protector is still alive or they deliberately wanted to make you look suspicious (which is kind of risky, you could have exposed a wolf)
Mon 11:40

I tend to believe they killed Luke because they definitely needed to kill someone tonight and seer might be protected by protector
Rey Mon 11:48

Thing is, if Luke was huntsman then that means alpha used their ability to do the double kill earlier, but it just seems weird that they'd do that?
Mace Mon 11:49

Weird how?
Rey Mon 11:49

Why double kill those two?
Mon 11:49

Why do it at that point?
Mon 11:50

I can't see how it would have benefited the wolves (other than just getting two players out of the game)
Mace Mon 11:52

I think that's what it was. Also, most likely one of them was a role. The other kill was just to move the game along quicker.
Mon 11:52

I would've done that as alpha wolf. The village was so quiet, so easy to kill. Like, let's just get it over with.
Mon 11:53

That was my initial thought at least
Rey Mon 11:56

If I was alpha I'd try and keep it until I knew who the huntsman was and then kill him and a villager to make it look like a wolf had been taken out
Vader Mon 11:56

That was also my assumption for Alpha
Mon 11:57

But it's my first time being in a game with one so don't really know the intricacies
Mace Mon 11:57

First for me too
Vader Mon 12:13

You know at worst it's 5:4 atm
Mon 12:14

Really need a GD on Leia - if she's a wolf great, if she's lycan that's also fine
Mon 12:16

We can basically Lynch anyone tonight (within reason - not Mace, or me) Lobot could have been shifted into, as could Maul
Mon 12:16

Quigon's dead, so that's all my useful info
Mon 12:17

At best we've killed 1 wolf and SS has already shifted
Mace Mon 12:17

I would leave the confirmed villagers alone for now. Pick one out of Kylo, Rey, Han, Palp, Obi
Mon 12:18

3-4 wolves hiding in there
Vader Mon 12:18

It'd be amazing dumb luck if we lynched a villager out of all that xD
Mace Mon 12:21

I'd like to go for the quiet ones since I'm not sure about HanSolo. He seemed to be on opposing sides with Leia yesterday and I think she was ww. Although HanSolo's last second vote-splitting was suspicious.
Moderator

Mace votes to put Palpatine on trial
Mace Mon 12:22

Palp seemed to be crowd's favourite (I have no opinion, just a shot in the dark)
Vader Mon 12:30

We did nearly lynch palp last night
Mon 12:30

Han saved him
Mon 12:30

We got rid of Leia
Mon 12:31

Worst case is she was villager
Mon 12:31

And Han and palp are both wolves
Moderator

Vader votes to put Palpatine on trial
Lobot Mon 14:05

hey guys
Mon 14:06

Sorry I didn't talk much those days, but I finaly caught up reading
Mon 14:07

I have no role, so I don't have much to say yet
Palpatine Mon 14:21

Good morning everyone, my apologies for not making it in time yesterday and for the most part showing up last minute. Work has been hectic and just changed up my schedule so I'll just be on before heading out (which would be in about an hour, if I get off earlier before night fall I'll also try to talk then). Now I read through all the text yesterday and while I rather not waste a seer check, I would also rather get rid of any suspicion and have Vader check and confirm me
Vader Mon 14:41

HanSolo Fri 19:15 uh Fri 19:15 wont make sense Fri 19:16 because he sacrifices himself Fri 19:16 so better question Fri 19:16 if HM is targeted does the wolf die
Mon 14:42

Asking if he would die, perhaps?
Moderator

Vader votes to put HanSolo on trial
Vader Mon 14:42

Han, Kylo, Rey, Obiwan
Mon 14:43

Palp is out of my gaze for now
Rey Mon 14:46

Are we looking for 4 wolves in that list of 4 people? Because if so, something has gone terribly wrong somewhere ;)
HanSolo Mon 15:11

Srsly guys, the whole day the majority of votes was on Leia
Mon 15:12

literally seconds before the end of day suddenly people want to balance it
Mon 15:12

wtf
Mon 15:12

There was even talk before
Mon 15:12

it is so late wolves didn't even try to safe leia and then bäm
Mon 15:13

I think Leia was wolf
Mon 15:13

we killed the right one
Mon 15:13

Maul is now very very suspicious
Mon 15:13

he might have gotten SSed
Vader Mon 15:13

We have almost zero information
HanSolo Mon 15:13

Vader your checks wtf
Mon 15:14

in what world would you not check me
Mon 15:14

and go for mace
Vader Mon 15:14

No one had come out with meaningful information and I believe our power roles are dead
HanSolo Mon 15:14

your are either the unluckiest seer ever
Mon 15:14

or you are a wolf
Mon 15:14

but in both scenarios
Vader Mon 15:14

Hahaha, funny
Mon 15:15

Yes
Mon 15:15

I am unlucky this time
HanSolo Mon 15:15

maul can be wolf
Mon 15:15

he talks a lot and with that silent village we have here
Mon 15:15

we are dead in the water
Moderator

HanSolo votes to put Maul on trial
Vader Mon 15:16

Solo what is your role?
HanSolo Mon 15:16

My wolves are: leia (dead), maul
Mon 15:16

My gud says 100% on them
Mon 15:16

vader, kylo got some shade
Mon 15:17

I'm plain villager
Mon 15:17

as I said from the beginning
Mon 15:17

Remember
Vader Mon 15:17

Thing changes
Mon 15:18

Yuppy could be SSed potentially
Mon 15:18

You*
Mon 15:18

Why does my phone do that...
HanSolo Mon 15:18

Honestly almost everybody could
Vader Mon 15:18

True
HanSolo Mon 15:19

Do you got any idea why to balance the vote seconds before night
Mon 15:19

and why luke was killed
Mon 15:19

I mean we have to assume he was the real HM
Mon 15:19

Also from the 6 dead
Mon 15:19

5 got killed by wolves
Vader Mon 15:19

Yes
HanSolo Mon 15:19

so there are atleast
Mon 15:19

3 wolves still alive and a lot of dead villager
Vader Mon 15:19

I'm also certain the GD is dead
Mon 15:20

And harlot
HanSolo Mon 15:20

we never heard from harlot
Mon 15:20

yeah me too
Vader Mon 15:20

Exactly
HanSolo Mon 15:20

I might go as far as say we are that unlucky that the protector maybe dead as well
Mon 15:21

but lets hope
Vader Mon 15:21

You could be right
Mon 15:21

I don't remember them coming out
HanSolo Mon 15:21

why did you check mace?
Vader Mon 15:23

I felt yesterday he was being contentious
Mon 15:25

Made some odd comments
Mon 15:25

So I checked him
Mon 15:26

Would you prefer I check you tonight or one of the others?
HanSolo Mon 15:27

I'm always for checking me, question is how long do you live and even more important who do we lynch
Mon 15:28

can you post your check again please
Mon 15:28

not many people left that you didn't check
Vader Mon 15:28

Okay, in order
Mon 15:29

Quigon, Maul, Lobot, Mace
HanSolo Mon 15:29

######## marker for the future
Mon 15:29

thx
Vader Mon 15:29

I'm tempted to check Rey, she says some things but not much to contribute, and day 2 was just posting image links
HanSolo Mon 15:30

yeah
Mon 15:30

question
Maul Mon 15:30

Wolves don't usually die the way Leia did, I.e. unopposed. The only one wanted to save Leia was me. Han is a wolf by his actions to kill Leia. Palp would have died if not for Han.
HanSolo Mon 15:30

do you know what result you get if someone get SSed
Vader Mon 15:31

In a check?
HanSolo Mon 15:31

yes
Maul Mon 15:31

Lobot just because you have no role doesn't mean you can't have some thoughts on game!?!
Vader Mon 15:31

I heard it says "unknown" but I've never tried
HanSolo Mon 15:31

ok
Mon 15:31

let me search something in ext-43
Mon 15:31

mod made a comment about order of roles in night
Rey Mon 15:32

Undetermined for GD, seer will see villager on the night of the shift, wolf the night after
Mon 15:33

(Based on mod's claim of all villager actions happening before wolves's)
HanSolo Mon 15:33

Moderator All villager roles visit. Vampire kills, Werewolves kill, SS shifts, Harlot sees visits. I will put this up on the guide at some point
Vader Mon 15:33

So will get 2 messages?
HanSolo Mon 15:33

rey is right
Mon 15:34

even mace could have been SSed into and you wouldn't know
Mon 15:34

only after another check
Vader Mon 15:34

Ugh
Mon 15:34

That's annoying
HanSolo Mon 15:34

so everybody is free game for possible SS
Vader Mon 15:35

Wonderful
Maul Mon 15:48

Everyone needs to vote, so far we only have 4 votes cast. 2 on han (maul, vader), 1 on palp (mace, who doesn't know why he's voting?) and one on maul (by han, who says he didn't want a balanced vote last night so that's why he votes late, however it was not balanced when he voted and why was he so silent??)
Mon 15:49

Also - why are you sure Leia was wolf han?
HanSolo Mon 15:56

There were so many vote changes in the last seconds, I honestly just wanted to not balance it and it seemed reasonable to go for leia, because sh had votes on her for so many hours. Hasty decisions don't favor the village.
Mon 15:56

Also I disagree with you about the sudden balance due to no one trying to defend her.
Mon 15:57

I think she was wolf, wolves had a plan to let a wolf die if it comes to a vote.
Mon 15:57

But with this silent village you (I still think you are wolf) saw a opportunity
Maul Mon 15:58

Leia did have many votes for hours, that's why its unlikely Leia was wolf. No wolf team mates say anything? Unlikely
HanSolo Mon 15:58

So this kinda confirms leia as wolf
Mon 15:58

Ok question
Mon 15:58

Do you agree that even 24h ago the game was very very well in favor of the wolves?
Mon 15:58

and as a matter of fact still is
Mon 15:59

Defending her just gives us information, thats exactly what we didn't and still don't have and is perfect for wolves
Mon 15:59

She might have been the alpha, used her role
Mon 16:00

It's a viable option to let her go
Maul Mon 16:01

So you are saying it was reverse logic by wolves, rather than trying to save their own they let him die? To clear fellow wolves and not raise suspicion on those that might defend Leia?
Moderator

Lobot votes to put Palpatine on trial
Lobot Mon 16:06

Look, I hate this "heeeey I was away, work was suuuper busy, now I'm back" kind of posts by someone who was in discussion earlier
Maul Mon 16:08

Palp does himself no favours with that statement he made. Poor villager or wolf.
Mace Mon 16:08

I wasn't there last night but it seemed to me like Han was trying to tie the votes. Not so?
Lobot Mon 16:09

may I ask why Seer checke dme?
Mon 16:11

Also seer came out right, seer got probably proteced, and now Palp wants himself checked, I think he knows very well that seer probably not gonna life another night
Maul Mon 16:14

When Han votes he balances them at 3 palp and 3 Leia. Vader then makes it 2 palp and 4 Leia.
Mon 16:19

The Vader change of vote from palp to leia at end of day kills Leia.
Rey Mon 16:20

Do we have any role (or non-role) claims other than Vader and Luke?
Maul Mon 16:21

Only 2 roles claimed
Mon 16:22

No claim on gd/harlot
Rey Mon 16:22

Okay, so I'll come out with my big reveal...
Mon 16:22

I'm a villager
Mon 16:22

What does that leave us with?
Maul Mon 16:22

Will you vote today rey? You didn't vote yesterday
Rey Mon 16:23

I will, I wasn't able to check yesterday until after nightfall
Mon 16:23

But I'll be around tonight for sure
Maul Mon 16:23

Vote now?
Rey Mon 16:24

Hmm, okay
Moderator

Rey votes to put Maul on trial
Maul Mon 16:24

Its better now that everyone votes, gives some info for village
Rey Mon 16:24

I need to read up on yesterday and today before i make a final decision
Mon 16:24

I'm leaning towards Palp
Maul Mon 16:24

You won't be voting me when you read up
Rey Mon 16:25

But i only saw a free lines from him
Maul Mon 16:25

You should vote who you really think now rather than me unless you really do think I'm wolf
Rey Mon 16:25

I probably won't, but now it's 2-2-2 and that's satisfying
Maul Mon 16:26

It just helps wolves IMO, no pressure anywhere
Rey Mon 16:27

Who did you vote for, Maul?
KyloRen Mon 16:29

Hey, checking in, just read up. Pretty intense right now...
Maul Mon 16:29

Hover over the number of votes by player and you see who votes and in what order, I voted han
Rey Mon 16:29

Does that work on Mobile?
KyloRen Mon 16:30

I think it is likely Leia was wolf personally... Firstly her behavoiour was suspicious, thats what attracted the votes to her in the first place
Rey Mon 16:30

Why, Kylo?
KyloRen Mon 16:31

If she was a wolf, it was odd that no one came to save her, but there are reasons why that can hpapen.. timezone/life or maybe wolves didn't want to incrimate themselves for not much hope?
Maul Mon 16:31

I voted han first thing whilst I waited 15 mins on Vader to finally say who he checked last night, unseer like..
Mon 16:31

Rey - no, doesn't seem to work on mobile for me either
KyloRen Mon 16:31

I think it was more odd that she didnt try to save herself?
Maul Mon 16:32

Wolf/villager, either way it's equally odd not trying to save self?
Mon 16:32

It's more odd to me that nobody opposed it
KyloRen Mon 16:33

So to summarise from what i see: there are two possiblities, if NO ONE has been SSed, then we have 3-4 wolves from han/palp/rey/obi/me (obv i know its not me, but worth including for theory sake)
Mon 16:33

True
Maul Mon 16:33

It was 3 to 1 votes on Leia for about.. 5 hours
KyloRen Mon 16:33

Well, you did oppose it
Mon 16:33

lol
Maul Mon 16:35

Don't you think it's odd? Wolves just let Leia die?
Rey Mon 16:35

My concern currently is that if Luke was the SS and lied about being the huntsman then the game could be over tonight right? Even if Leia was a wolf?
KyloRen Mon 16:35

anyway, im kinda jk, I do agree it is odd, but I think Leia's behaviour was odd in general, I guess I am not as surprised as you are about no one sticking up for her
Mon 16:35

Yes My main concern is with SS
Rey Mon 16:36

Say we have 3 wolves left, we lynch wrong tonight and alpha uses their ability... then it's 3-3
KyloRen Mon 16:36

Check back to day 3, there was a lot of heat on Quigon and then wolves "killed" quigon... I think there was a big chance quigon was SS
Mon 16:36

Which means checks PRE quigon are also suspicious, I think that has to be considered
Maul Mon 16:37

Vader checked quigon night 1 I think
KyloRen Mon 16:37

I agree if Luke is SS, then that means nearly anyone can be wolf.... so I kinda dont want to consider it... but I think Luke was legit
Maul Mon 16:37

Yes he did, as Luke checked "top of list kylo"
Mon 16:38

First night that is
Mon 16:39

It's a shame Luke was here 15mins to go before night but then silent for final run in despite me asking him questions
Mon 16:41

Luke came out too early yesterday, either bad play as villager IMO or wolf
KyloRen Mon 16:41

It is also starting to play on my mind that it is odd that Vader has found no frikin wolves Lycan included in 4 checks, If wolves had killed seer with BH and he claimed role, game could be over tonight
Maul Mon 16:42

Yea Vader is very suspicious
Mon 16:43

I thought vader was suspicious before he came out as seer so I still can't decide of it's just I don't understand him
Mon 16:43

Like not saying who he checked first thing this morning, just weird
Mon 16:44

I wouldn't mind losing BH to See.
Mon 16:44

Seer*
Mon 16:45

That would mean 1 role reveal in Luke... Really unfortunate
Mon 16:46

Vote kylo :)
Vader Mon 16:51

Suspicious my robotic ass
Mon 16:51

I think any role needs to come out
Mon 16:52

And honestly coming out when I did felt late, but I thought I had no choice since we'd lynched no one and I still had not found a wolf
Mon 16:56

You can't all be villagers so done of you are doing some decent lying
Mon 16:56

Some*
Mon 17:00

For the lycan, do they show as villager or lycan?
Mon 17:00

To their self?
Maul Mon 17:00

Villager
Vader Mon 17:03

So they don't know they look like a wolf to seer?
Mon 17:04

Do they look like villager to BH?
Mon 17:05

Don't think it says in H2P
Maul Mon 17:06

They don't know what they look like to seer. I don't know what BH sees, I asked that earlier I think.
Mon 17:07

Er lycan is a villager, but if seer says they are wolf then they don't know if that's because seer is fake or seer just sees lycan
Vader Mon 17:14

That's just maddeningly unhelpful
Mon 17:16

I'll be offline for a bit
Mon 17:16

I'll try to check in when I can
Obiwan Mon 18:17

Hello!
Mon 18:18

I am so sorry I haven't been on much, I'm on vacation and I'm just settling in and getting over jetlag.
Mon 18:22

I've read through everything; I believe Leia was a wolf. I'm unsure about Vader and Maul.
Mon 18:24

There's no solid evidence against Maul; I just have a gut feeling that he's a wolf. Of course, that's not anything to go off of.
Mon 18:26

As for Vader, Leia seemed certain the seer was dead. If she was a wolf, the BH could have sniffed out the seer and she'd be certain they were dead.
Mon 18:27

However, if both Leia and Vader were wolves, she wouldn't have said that and he would have maken some kind of move to defend her, even if it was subtle.
Mon 18:27

So that gets us nowhere.
Moderator

ext-045 will be starting this evening
Rey Mon 19:07

hmmmm
Mon 19:08

I just caught up on yesterday
Mon 19:08

does anyone think going for Luke was an odd choice given that the seer was unprotected?
Maul Mon 19:21

everything about vader is odd apart from his vote on Han :/
Vader Mon 19:21

people have said that about me in every game
Mon 19:21

i think it's just how i am
Maul Mon 19:21

I won't kill vader tonight, simply because he is the only seer claim, and there are plenty other wolves
Mon 19:21

unless rey, you really want to?
Vader Mon 19:22

i would advise against it
Mon 19:22

i'm your only hope
Maul Mon 19:22

you are a poor seer
Vader Mon 19:22

your face is a poor seer
Mon 19:22

what would you have done differently?
Maul Mon 19:23

anyway, you want to kill Han then Vader?
Mon 19:23

Vader - i mean you haven't found a wolf as seer, it's odds on at random you would
Mon 19:23

it's bad luck if you are seer
Vader Mon 19:24

i'm afraid i can't help that
Mon 19:24

just bad choices i guess
HanSolo Mon 19:24

Maul again you are leading the village
Mon 19:24

this makes you more suspicious
Maul Mon 19:25

oh Han's back again
Mon 19:25

wb
Mon 19:25

why did you stay silent last night up until vote right at end?
Mon 19:26

Rey - keep vader alive, he has to give info tomorrow on who he checked, real or not
HanSolo Mon 19:26

I only came back shortly before night and saw you talking with kylo
Mon 19:26

phased throught the text and suddently
Mon 19:26

votes changed
Mon 19:26

no much time
Mon 19:27

not*
Mon 19:27

rey claimed protector?
Maul Mon 19:27

? no
HanSolo Mon 19:27

Rey - keep vader alive, he has to give info tomorrow on who he checked, real or not
Mon 19:27

I assumed
Mon 19:28

didnt read back
Maul Mon 19:28

no, vader might die
Mon 19:28

is it a great loss, I don't know, there is lot of suspicion on him anyway
HanSolo Mon 19:29

well he has to hit a wolf sometime
Mon 19:29

so ofc its a loss
Rey Mon 19:29

@HanSolo keep him alive... how?
Maul Mon 19:30

he's quoting me... thinking I meant you were protector
Mon 19:30

keep him alive by not killing him tonight i mean
Rey Mon 19:32

oh, I wasn't planning on lynching him
Mon 19:32

I'm thinking more that I still suspect Luke was a wolf
Mon 19:34

but anyway, idk
Mon 19:34

it sounds like at best we have a list of 6 villagers that could contain 4 wolves?
Maul Mon 19:36

Well
Mon 19:36

Since the majority are quite sure Leia was wolf
Mon 19:37

that means Luke was real HM (based on Leia really doubting Luke) which means alpha used ability to kill two villagers.... and Luke died killing nobody and Vader today is same Vader as yesterday, very likely Seer.
Mon 19:37

So there are 3 wolves remaining from 5: Kylo, Rey, Han, Palp, Obi... Leia also said he suspected Palp and he obviously voted Han, so perhaps they are clear too, leaving Kylo, Rey and Obi as the 3 wolves.
Mon 19:37

game sorted
Rey Mon 19:44

Well, except I know I'm not a wolf ;)
Maul Mon 19:44

**Votes right now are 2 Han (Maul & Vader), 2 Palpatine (Mace & Lobot), 2 Maul (HanSolo & Rey).......... no votes from Kylo, Obiwan or Palpatine.
Rey Mon 19:44

I'm still suspicious of Palp
Moderator

Rey votes to put Palpatine on trial
Rey Mon 19:44

and reading the backlog didn't change my suspicions
Mon 19:45

I'm also a bit supicious of Obi
Maul Mon 19:45

same problem with Palpatine and Obi, they don't contribute.... is that because it's easy to get away with it as a wolf until late game stages or simply bad villagers
Mon 19:45

*shrug*
Mon 19:46

it's why when everyone is active game is lot easier
Mon 19:46

for village
Moderator

Maul votes to put Palpatine on trial
Maul Mon 19:47

**Votes right now are 1 Han (Vader), 4 Palpatine (Mace, Lobot, Rey & Maul), 2 Maul (HanSolo).......... no votes from Kylo, Obiwan or Palpatine.
Mon 19:52

Remember Han saved Palpatine last night
Mon 19:53

**Votes right now are 1 Han (Vader), 4 Palpatine (Mace, Lobot, Rey & Maul), 1 Maul (HanSolo).......... no votes from Kylo, Obiwan or Palpatine
Mon 19:53

Vader was also willing to kill Palpatine
Mon 19:54

so I doubt Vader yesterday and Palpatine are both wolves
Obiwan Mon 20:43

I didn't contribute much in the beginning because I had very spotty wifi.
Mon 20:44

I haven't voted yet because I want to give Palpatine a chance to speak in case she's in the same situation as I.
Mon 20:46

I do understand the concept of silent village = dead village, and I apologize for not speaking so much. It was out of my control. That being said, we could lynch Palpatine tonight, as there is a high chance she is a wolf…
Moderator

Obiwan votes to put Palpatine on trial
Obiwan Mon 20:47

I wil transfer my vote elsewhere if Palpatine gives us a valid reason not to lynch before nightfall. I hope you all will do the same.
Maul Mon 20:56

Can we please vote to kill han for his actions last night
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Maul votes to put HanSolo on trial
Vader Mon 21:03

Who has a vote on you Maul?
Maul Mon 21:09

HanSolo
Mon 21:09

Don't let Han get away with his actions...
HanSolo Mon 21:15

Maul why are you pushing so hard on me
Maul Mon 21:15

I think your last second voting was suspicious
Mon 21:18

I wish Lobot would come back
Mon 21:19

Mace, Rey, Obi - don't you think the last second vote was suspicious??
Mon 21:20

sigh, Palpatine words about being too busy to play so just check me to see I'm villager so unconvincing also:/
Rey Mon 21:22

Maul, it did seem weird but then similar things have happened previously and it's always been by "non-wolves"
Mon 21:22

so, idk
HanSolo Mon 21:30

It's not more weird then balance/change with that less time left
Palpatine Mon 21:32

Hey guys, just finished reading and I (like Obi) want to give my apologies. The stuff on my end was unexpected. But besides all that, my suggestion on Vader checking me was under the assumption that the protector is still alive. Given how yesterday there was a request (I believe by Hans) that they should not reveal their role. I also added that "I rather not waste a seer check" and honestly think since theirs so much questions on Hans that he could be a worth-while check. Also, I thought Maul was cleared as villager Vader? Why is he being voted for?
Maul Mon 21:34

I don't understand why Han votes me..... Vader cleared me so does that make Vader a wolf?
HanSolo Mon 21:35

currently I think SS and there is still possibility he fale claimed
Mon 21:35

you have to agree his checks are very suspicious
Mon 21:36

regarding yesterday, I still think at that point of time going for the original target is the best chance of success for the village
Mon 21:36

everything else is
Mon 21:36

confusion = bad for village
Maul Mon 21:37

but why would wolves just let Leia die
Palpatine Mon 21:37

Hm, unless the seer was already killed, Vader still is the only one to claim it. And who is the original target at this point?
Maul Mon 21:37

they had hours to stop it
Mon 21:37

it wouldn't have been difficult to stop it
HanSolo Mon 21:37

killing someone that may has no time to defend himself = bad for village
Mon 21:37

leia was original target yesterday
Maul Mon 21:37

Palp had a long time to defend himself
Mon 21:38

I voted him hours before and said I wanted him to die
Palpatine Mon 21:38

One of the reasons I could think is that they probably would want to distance themselves from her
HanSolo Mon 21:39

Maul Sun 22:59 vote Palp then
Mon 21:39

from yesterday
Mon 21:39

1 minute is enough time?
Obiwan Mon 21:39

When you just realize Palp is a him… I'm on mobile and didn't bother scrolling back up for the picture. My bad.
Maul Mon 21:39

I voted Palp hours before and said I wanted him to die
Mon 21:39

at 22:59 of course no time but earlier I said I wanted him dead
Palpatine Mon 21:40

(The character yes, me personally no)
HanSolo Mon 21:40

I dont know the person so I always go for the character
Obiwan Mon 21:41

Here are my thoughts: Palpatine hasn't done anything to cause suspicion aside from being silent, Maul leads the village (leads as in says certain things to make people think a certain way), Leia is most likely 1 of the 4 wolves, and if Vader doesn't find a wolf tomorrow, then we can't trust him.
Mon 21:41

Same here, Han.
Mon 21:42

I'm going to change my vote because Palpatine hasn't given us a real reason to lynch.
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Obiwan votes to put Lobot on trial
Maul Mon 21:42

wtf
Lobot Mon 21:42

...
Maul Mon 21:42

Lobot???
Obiwan Mon 21:42

Nothing against Lobot; just needed to change my vote.
Lobot Mon 21:42

what a constructive imput
Mon 21:43

I would ask for some better suggestion
HanSolo Mon 21:43

leading the villiage is always dangerous for the village because people start to trust blindly
Maul Mon 21:43

leading the village? nobody listens to me
HanSolo Mon 21:43

why you voting for lobot?
Lobot Mon 21:43

he wants to balance it or something, not sure
Mon 21:44

but my problem is, that he says Palp is bad, but I don't see any other suggestion
HanSolo Mon 21:44

well thats a interesting balance then
Obiwan Mon 21:44

Sorry, Lobot. Just wanted to take my vote away from Palpatine because we have no evidence.
Lobot Mon 21:44

I totally get that, but who would you lynch instead
Palpatine Mon 21:45

(Same here, it makes it's the simplest way)
Obiwan Mon 21:45

There's no way for me to balance it, I think? I can check again. I don't know who to lynch at the current moment, I need to reread some things.
HanSolo Mon 21:45

to be fair todays choices should be Maul, Han, Palp and maybe if we want to go full yolo Vader
Maul Mon 21:45

night is in 15 mins..
Mon 21:45

Han - do you think Vader yesterday was wolf?
Palpatine Mon 21:46

I'm just worried that Vader is a legitimate seer (only claim abd maybe he just got unlucky with his checks)
HanSolo Mon 21:46

I tend to say no and may think he got SSed
Maul Mon 21:46

yes HAn, so if he got SS then how can I be wolf?
HanSolo Mon 21:46

not sure tho
Maul Mon 21:46

Vader cleared me yesterday
Mon 21:47

vader yesterday would have had to be wolf, that's the only way I am wolf today...... unless Luke went into me??
HanSolo Mon 21:47

Thats the one possibility and yes this would make you village
Mon 21:47

But do you want to kill vader?
Mon 21:48

There is so much uncertainty
Maul Mon 21:48

so you are voting me because you think Luke went into me..?
HanSolo Mon 21:48

Maybe he really did the full on fake claim and you 2 are playing together
Maul Mon 21:49

I think Vader is suspicious for not finding any wolf..... simply by random picks it's odds on he would find one.
Palpatine Mon 21:49

Hm, in all honesty wouldn't the SS choose someone that doesn't draw too much attention but was already confirmed as villager?
HanSolo Mon 21:49

I mainly voted you because you tried to blame me for the shit show yesterday
Maul Mon 21:49

plus the "you'll be happy to know you are cleared by me as a villager" @ 20 mins after dawn today was pretty suspicious
Mon 21:49

by Vader^^
Mon 21:49

in response to Mace^^
HanSolo Mon 21:50

I might have missed that
Mon 21:50

So we still on palp? or do we want to change anything?
Palpatine Mon 21:50

He also cleared Lobot
Mon 21:52

And what is the reasoning for me at this moment?
Maul Mon 21:52

***Currently: 2 votes Han (Maul, Vader), 1 vote Lobot (by Obiwan but he does not suspect Lobot), 3 votes Palpatine (Mace, Lobot, Rey)
Obiwan Mon 21:53

Palpatine, I believe it's because you weren't active?
Lobot Mon 21:53

my reasoning was that I always get suspicious if someone comes in with "didn't have time" and then gives no direct input. But you did now, I voted for you in the afternoon
Mon 21:53

but whats the alternative?
Mon 21:54

I still see no other suspicious person, or is there palp?
Maul Mon 21:54

Han for his bad reasons for voting me and his complete silence until last second vote balance to save Palpatine last night
Mon 21:54

Obiwan for just going with flow
HanSolo Mon 21:54

But then again
Lobot Mon 21:54

but when he saved palp, we can go for palp anyway
HanSolo Mon 21:55

thats you only reason
Obiwan Mon 21:55

How was I "just going with the flow"?
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HanSolo votes to put Palpatine on trial
Lobot Mon 21:55

ok this one I find super odd
Maul Mon 21:55

Obi - you just said you can't decide and were going to re-read... did you re-read yet?
Mon 21:55

who are you voting for? Still Lobot...?
Mon 21:55

Lobot is cleared by Vader
HanSolo Mon 21:56

I mean if you want me to get kill that bad
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Vader votes to put KyloRen on trial
HanSolo Mon 21:56

lets do it
Lobot Mon 21:56

I'm between hand and palp
Obiwan Mon 21:56

I did re-read. I'll cast my vote now.
Lobot Mon 21:56

-d
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Obiwan votes to put Palpatine on trial
HanSolo Mon 21:56

I think we all just now railroad palp for no good reason
Obiwan Mon 21:56

I believe Palpatine and Han are in cahoots.
Lobot Mon 21:56

I found han's vote switch a bit odd, it's super late, and maybe this ends with a "but I did vote for palp" tomorrow
Maul Mon 21:56

we will never know if Palpatine is wolf...... GD is clearly dead
HanSolo Mon 21:57

Atleast i can understand the arguments against me
Mon 21:57

yeah
Palpatine Mon 21:57

Not sure if my last text showed up. But thanks for the explaining and that makes sense Lobot. I'm not a fan of giving excuses but I felt like I should explain my absence.
Lobot Mon 21:57

you got 3 mins :S
HanSolo Mon 21:57

lets kill me
Maul Mon 21:57

agreed
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Lobot votes to put HanSolo on trial
Obiwan Mon 21:57

Han tried to save Palpatine yesterday, and is only voting for him now because he doesn't want to look suspicious.
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HanSolo votes to put HanSolo on trial
Obiwan Mon 21:58

And now Han is committing suicide?
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Lobot votes to put Palpatine on trial
HanSolo Mon 21:58

Just remember
Maul Mon 21:58

now votes are balanced
HanSolo Mon 21:58

my suspicions
Maul Mon 21:58

or not
HanSolo Mon 21:58

maul
Mon 21:58

vader
Mon 21:58

maybe palp not sure
Lobot Mon 21:58

I think Han tries to take a bullet for palp
HanSolo Mon 21:58

I thin leia was wolf
Lobot Mon 21:58

because of some role maybe?
HanSolo Mon 21:58

so be careful
Obiwan Mon 21:58

Who said you're dying though?
HanSolo Mon 21:58

be smart
Maul Mon 21:58

possibly Lobot
Obiwan Mon 21:58

Han and Palp are wolves. I'm calling it right now.
Maul Mon 21:59

I never thought of that
Palpatine Mon 21:59

Yep, the votes aren't balance,
Mon 21:59

And why do you say that Obi?
Maul Mon 21:59

Han 2 (Maul & Han.. who can easily switch)... Palp 4 (Mace, Rey, Obi, Lobot)
Mon 21:59

game can end in morning..
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