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Boone Mon 09:02

That's a lot of kills. Uhm..
Mon 09:03

Or is this a bug again?
ManInBlack Mon 09:04

I'm guessing puppets. So hmm...
Eloise Mon 09:04

I had hoped for fewer... I dread to think...
Mon 09:04

Although Ben was coven so he might have been a puppet.
Mon 09:05

Jin seems a bad loss for us.
Mon 09:05

I can't wait to hear from Sun.
Locke Mon 09:07

Okay guys, since I was roleblocked, there is no reason for me to hide my role anymore...
Mon 09:07

Evils know what I am
Mon 09:07

Protector here
Eloise Mon 09:07

Interesting...
Moderator Mon 09:07

Eloise votes to lynch Locke
Locke Mon 09:08

N1 - self ; N2 - Boone ; N3 - Sun ; Last night: not gonna say for obvious reasons
Mon 09:08

What?
ManInBlack Mon 09:08

This is as good as a counterclaim... Right, Eloise?
Moderator Mon 09:08

Charlotte votes to lynch Eloise
Moderator Mon 09:08

Locke votes to lynch Eloise
Locke Mon 09:09

You are not stoping with your poison I guess
Charlotte Mon 09:09

Why were u(Eloise) alive in the face of evil? Worth pondering abt guys
ManInBlack Mon 09:10

One of these guys is definitely vampire...
Locke Mon 09:11

I am confused with so many deaths
Mon 09:11

Could it be that there was another HM?
Mon 09:11

And that he is one of the 4, along with whoever tried to kill their target
Naomi Mon 09:16

2 were likely puppets, the other 2 wolf and vamp kills
ManInBlack Mon 09:20

Puppets and... 1. Vamp + wolf (naomi) or 2. Hm + wolf (Locke)
Mon 09:20

Interesting...
Sayid Mon 09:21

Ooooow why 4ppl killd last night
Mon 09:21

Wr is sun
Mon 09:21

What was desmond
MrEko Mon 09:23

wow 4 deaths thats a lot
Mon 09:23

kinda suggests that we still have a vampire alive??
Moderator Mon 09:23

Naomi votes to lynch Walt
Moderator Mon 09:26

MrEko votes to lynch Locke
MrEko Mon 09:26

locke y didnt u tell us ur protector yesterday???
Moderator Mon 09:30

Sayid votes to lynch Eloise
Moderator Mon 09:30

Sayid votes to lynch Boone
Sayid Mon 09:31

If desmond was villgr ill put my vote on eloise
ManInBlack Mon 09:32

50/50 on Locke vs Eloise
Charlotte Mon 09:33

What's Jin's role?
ManInBlack Mon 09:33

I don't think he claimed.
Naomi Mon 09:33

The amount of deaths point to Desmond unlikely being villager, requires either 2 hms in the game or no puppet deaths last night
ManInBlack Mon 09:34

What was Naomi's claim? Her vote seems intel-ly.
Naomi Mon 09:34

It would have to be hm and alpha kill +vamp kill
Charlotte Mon 09:34

Then he probably brought valuable information with him
Naomi Mon 09:35

Or witch I guess
Mon 09:35

Has there been any redirects this game?
Mon 09:36

My vote is on Walt as he seems to be invisible this game
Mon 09:40

Sadly my vote isn't intelly, I'm as blind as an elderly bat this game
Mon 09:41

And getting through 3 evil factions misinformation is like wading through jelly
Locke Mon 09:44

I hinted at my role quite a few times... seams only Desmond got it
Mon 09:44

And you guys lynched a hm
Mon 09:44

Good job village!
Mon 09:45

All thanks to Eloise's poison
ManInBlack Mon 09:49

Ok now we wait for Sun... Then, we can start the fun... :P
Locke Mon 09:53

And how coincidental that Eloise disappears right after throwing accusations... leaving clueless villagers to fight among each other and blame innocent people
Mon 09:53

I revealed my role, and I told you who I protected...
Sayid Mon 09:54

Wht hppnd if sun collaborate with eloise?
Locke Mon 09:54

And yeah, I cab tell you whom I tried to protect last night but was roleblocked
Mon 09:55

But in that case that person wil die tonight since I won't be able to protect then again
Sayid Mon 09:55

Ok it means we have 2 or more wolves yt
Moderator Mon 09:55

Sayid votes to lynch Eloise
Naomi Mon 09:55

Locke your hints were pretty ham-fisted
Mon 09:56

Locke Sat 09:30 Oh... and I guess Boone was well protected last night ;)
Locke Mon 09:56

That was so obvious of a hint...
Naomi Mon 09:57

Too obvious in my opinion, yet I also suspect the hell out of eloise
Mon 09:57

But something seems off
ManInBlack Mon 09:57

Ok. So, it seems like it's a tradition for protectors to drop clues...
Mon 09:58

Has Eloise drop any?
Mon 09:59

And why didn't you confront her yesterday, Locke?
Naomi Mon 09:59

Clues like that tend to get you murdered
Mon 09:59

Not sure we should call that a clue or a claim
Locke Mon 10:01

Confront her? With what?
Mon 10:01

Did she claim stuff?
Mon 10:01

I voted her yesterday
Mon 10:01

As I voted her today
Mon 10:01

Because she is poison
ManInBlack Mon 10:02

Oh I thought you're voting her because she claimed protector yesterday.
MrEko Mon 10:03

locke y didnt u tell us yesterday when we might have lynches her instead of desmond?
Naomi Mon 10:03

Not sure why Locke wouldn't have been blocked and killed N3, were wolves not reading?
MrEko Mon 10:03

**lynched
Naomi Mon 10:04

On the other side Eloise voted beautiful hurley
Mon 10:04

And Locke petitioned to get him militia shot
Sayid Mon 10:06

Look eloise can play her role well and she can convince ppl ,
Mon 10:06

Maybe with confusing ppl
ManInBlack Mon 10:10

Hmm, two things link Eloise and Locke... ** Both claimed protector and roleblocked at some point.
MrEko Mon 10:11

i do think locke behaves more like a protector than eloise but i dont like that he didnt counterclaim eloise yesterday ...
ManInBlack Mon 10:12

Yes, I agree...
Naomi Mon 10:12

Not sure actively trying to get someone militia shot day 2 is the most prot like behaviour
MrEko Mon 10:13

ok mb other than that lol
Mon 10:13

but eloise kinda drew lots of aggro and thats not rly what prots do
Naomi Mon 10:14

Is more about guessing the teams now, Locke, Charr
Mon 10:15

Sayid wolves
Mon 10:15

Eloise coven maybe
Sayid Mon 10:15

No way
Mon 10:15

Hey when you say sth like this i think ur wolves also
Naomi Mon 10:16

I say us village goes on a swimming trip
Sayid Mon 10:16

And you wan lynch me cous i tll the trus
Naomi Mon 10:16

In full platemail
Mon 10:16

We need in depth purging
Moderator Mon 10:17

ManInBlack votes to lynch Eloise
Sayid Mon 10:17

I AM JUST WILLGR
Naomi Mon 10:17

Your a villager?
Mon 10:17

You're
ManInBlack Mon 10:18

Yore
Sayid Mon 10:18

Now yes because i can kill smone just once
Mon 10:18

In game
Mon 10:18

Im militia but i cnt do anything right now
Mon 10:18

Cous of this i say im villgr
Mon 10:18

Nothing else
Mon 10:19

Haaaa villgr :D
ManInBlack Mon 10:19

He used an improvised gun, using a metal pipe, rubber and ball bearing.
Sayid Mon 10:19

I wrote willgr
Mon 10:19

:D
Mon 10:20

:/
ManInBlack Mon 10:21

Where's the sun? ?
Sayid Mon 10:21

She gonna kiss moon, she will come back soon :D
Naomi Mon 10:23

There were 3 deaths the night you shot at least
Locke Mon 10:24

I didn't see her claim yesterday
Mon 10:24

Otherwise I would
Naomi Mon 10:24

Could easily be accounted by alpha possibly, hmm where's the vamps at
Sayid Mon 10:25

Naomi you mean who?
Naomi Mon 10:26

Just looking for the many evils still alive
Sayid Mon 10:26

They will win
Mon 10:27

And we stupid villgrs will be loosers
Mon 10:27

And we will learn it we shouldn’t trust every body
Naomi Mon 10:28

Good thing I trust nobody then
Mon 10:28

Us stupid villagers with our baggy clothing
Sayid Mon 10:29

Brw we do every thing ppl say, first day we did what boon said, and ystrday we did what eloise said
Mon 10:29

Btw*
Naomi Mon 10:30

Was Desmond a bad lynch, I'm not sure
Sayid Mon 10:30

And one of them was wh
Mon 10:30

Im not sure about desmond also
Mon 10:31

If he was just villgr we shoul lynch eloise
Naomi Mon 10:31

Well both of the suposed prots wanted the wh dead
Sayid Mon 10:32

( if she don’t convincing us with her words)
Locke Mon 10:32

I wanted hurley dead just because of how he spoke...
Mon 10:33

He was really annoying
Mon 10:33

I did not know he was a wh, and I do apologize for that
Sayid Mon 10:34

We didnt know that also
Sun Mon 10:34

Oh dear.
Mon 10:34

Desmond was a HM.
Sayid Mon 10:34

Hey sunnnnn
Mon 10:35

What the hellllllll
Sun Mon 10:35

And Jin is gone... :(
Sayid Mon 10:35

He was hunts man
Sun Mon 10:35

Desmond was a Huntsman.
Sayid Mon 10:35

Omg
Mon 10:36

I think eloise was ss
Mon 10:36

No it cant be
Sun Mon 10:36

You sure?
Sayid Mon 10:36

No it can not be because if she, she was dead last night
Sun Mon 10:37

Yeah
Mon 10:37

I think Ben and Mikhail were the puppets.
Sayid Mon 10:37

So at all she’s evil right?
Mon 10:37

I can trust you sun
Sun Mon 10:37

Idk, she could be evil.
Mon 10:37

I'm not really sure now.
Mon 10:38

Desmond was kinda suspicous...but she pushed for him really hard.
Sayid Mon 10:38

Couse she insisted to lynch desmond
Mon 10:39

I think she’s evil
Sun Mon 10:39

Ugh, we are mislynching way too much.
Mon 10:39

I did trust her...but I'm not sure now.
Sayid Mon 10:39

But desmon did what ever he can do for rescue him slf
Moderator Mon 10:39

Sun votes to lynch Eloise
Sayid Mon 10:40

And yesteday when i said maybe boon is wolf she attkd me
Sun Mon 10:40

Yeah...I think we go for Eloise. Number 1 suspect right now.
ManInBlack Mon 10:42

I'm sorry for your loss, Sun.
Sayid Mon 10:42

Ummm ik sure she will have nice plan to convince us
Eloise Mon 10:42

This looks really bad, and I don't have a plan or a reply.
ManInBlack Mon 10:43

Try us.
Sayid Mon 10:43

So why yestrday you wantd to lynch hm?
Eloise Mon 10:43

I'm sorry that I pushed a mislynch. But I still stand by my reasoning, just like I stand by my reasoning for suspecting Hurley.
Sayid Mon 10:43

Maybe you are one of the wolves and your bh told you he is hm
Locke Mon 10:43

Because she is an evil poisonous person who is creating chaos... probably coven
Eloise Mon 10:44

Having said that, I have to accept that I have been more pushy than what you probably normally get from a protector.
Sun Mon 10:44

Idk, I can understand Eloise here. Desmond was suspicious enough to lynch.
Eloise Mon 10:45

I am... just speechless at how I could get two lynches so wrong.
Sun Mon 10:45

But we need to lynch some evils, and no-one else stands out as suspicous.
Sayid Mon 10:45

Omg
Locke Mon 10:45

Sun?
Sayid Mon 10:45

Plsssssss opn your eyes
Locke Mon 10:46

You said that shaman was dead right?
Sun Mon 10:46

Yes
Locke Mon 10:46

Hmmm... what evil role could claim a prot and get trough with it?
Sun Mon 10:46

What is it Sayid?
Mon 10:47

Any role could.
Mon 10:47

Really.
Sayid Mon 10:47

What
Eloise Mon 10:47

I think Locke is referring to me. I just looked at the aggression heaped onto Boone for outing a proved coven, and drew conclusions that seemed strengthened by the players' behaviour.
Locke Mon 10:47

If only we had stalkers to give us some info
Sayid Mon 10:47

Sun i think you wanna trust eloise again
Sun Mon 10:47

I do?
Sayid Mon 10:47

Idn
ManInBlack Mon 10:48

But 2 protectors tho'.
Sun Mon 10:48

gtg
Locke Mon 10:48

There are no 2 protectors... she is fake
ManInBlack Mon 10:48

2 Prot claims.
Eloise Mon 10:49

I am not going to capitalise that I am a Protector but I am. And my secondary lynch choice for Hurley and my choice for Desmond were well-reasoned. I am just sorry we lost two useful roles.
Locke Mon 10:49

No, you are not a protector... my guts twist and ache when I read your speech...
Sayid Mon 10:50

Do you think you can convince us with saying sorry?:/ we lost 2important roles
Locke Mon 10:50

Can wolves role block the same person 2 nights in a row
Naomi Mon 10:51

Think Locke is saying that wolves couldn't ki
Mon 10:51

Nvm
Mon 10:51

Yes they can
Eloise Mon 10:51

Locke they can.
ManInBlack Mon 10:51

Obama: Yes, they can.
Locke Mon 10:51

Then I guess I am doomed no matter what
Mon 10:52

Well then... wanna hear my N4 protection?
Naomi Mon 10:52

I would have expected you to be doomed by your 'hint'
Eloise Mon 10:52

What I'd like to know is why you think the evils know your role just because you got role blocked.
Locke Mon 10:53

Because I hinted my role quite a few times...
Mon 10:53

And they probably blocked me in order to kill someone they found important
ManInBlack Mon 10:53

I thought blocked Protection don't count?
Naomi Mon 10:53

It doesn't
Eloise Mon 10:53

This is true.
Mon 10:54

I was blocked N1 and could protect myself N2.
Naomi Mon 10:54

Huh
Locke Mon 10:54

They probably thought I'd be protecting one of the last night kills...
Mon 10:54

But in truth, I wasn't
Eloise Mon 10:55

I asked the mod just so I knew whether to stay silent or could voice my suspicions a bit more.
ManInBlack Mon 10:56

Anybody else blocked that would like to say something?
Locke Mon 10:56

And I guess I will die tonight anyways
Mon 10:56

So... here are all my protections once again
Eloise Mon 10:56

You may not die.
Locke Mon 10:56

N1-self ; N2-Boone ; N3-Sun ; N4-self
Eloise Mon 10:58

Has anybody ever played a game with 2 Protectors? I recently saw a discussion that concluded it would make the village OP.
Mon 10:58

Hence my vote on Locke,
ManInBlack Mon 10:58

^
Mon 10:58

Hence my vote on you. Sorry.
Naomi Mon 10:58

Honestly I think you could both be evils on different teams
Mon 11:00

Wonder what Walt is
Eloise Mon 11:00

If I die I'll be waiting in the graveyard with bated breath to see what Sun will say I am.
ManInBlack Mon 11:01

Ooh, I don't like how this sounds...
Eloise Mon 11:02

Sorry for my bitterness.
Mon 11:02

But did you see my reasons for wanting Hurley as a secondary lynch?
Mon 11:02

And my reasons for thinking Desmond was a wolf?
Naomi Mon 11:03

You and Locke are sketchy as each other in that regard
Eloise Mon 11:03

And can you find any fault in them, even in hindsight?
Mon 11:03

What logical analysis has Locke presented, other than calling me poison?
Mon 11:04

He sided with Desmond for reasons I struggle to find logical.
Naomi Mon 11:04

Locke has a lot of bandwagon power behind him
Mon 11:05

Which would suggest you have less team alive
Mon 11:05

If you have a team
Mon 11:06

Mr Eko is on your side?
Eloise Mon 11:06

I don't think I have one at the moment.
Naomi Mon 11:06

My guess is Locke and that bunch are wolves
Mon 11:07

Are you vampy
Eloise Mon 11:07

I don't trust MrEko but I didn't want to get drawn into the puppet debate.
Locke Mon 11:07

Naomy, you got it all wrong... but oh well
Naomi Mon 11:07

Felt any odd pertusions in your mouth lately?
Eloise Mon 11:07

Because I honestly thought Des was a wolf.
ManInBlack Mon 11:08

Funny Naomi. :D
Eloise Mon 11:08

And I thought I was going to get role blocked and killed if I let him live.
Naomi Mon 11:09

Locke can you point out your suspected wolves please? There are at least more than 2 if you got blocked last night
Mon 11:09

<=2
Locke Mon 11:10

Well, Idk... Eloise is evil I am 99% certain now... the other... I don't know
Mon 11:10

Maybe it was ben...
Mon 11:10

Do not forget that vamps love wolf meat too
Naomi Mon 11:11

I'd imagine you'd all be fighting amongst each other now to avoid 1 side having majority
Mon 11:12

Or fighting for majority
ManInBlack Mon 11:14

15 deaths in 5 nights. This game should end after 3 days at most.
Locke Mon 11:15

I am really sorry that I missed most of days 1, 2 and 3... I only asked for a quick summary and there are the results... I am clueless + I am suspected...
Mon 11:15

But oh well
Naomi Mon 11:16

Charlotte someone at level 6 sketchiness voted straight along with you locke
Locke Mon 11:16

Nevermind, it's a gane
Naomi Mon 11:17

Both you and Eloise are at Level 5 on the sketchomatic
ManInBlack Mon 11:21

What if all sketchy players are lit, and litty players evil? Hmm...
Locke Mon 11:22

^
Naomi Mon 11:23

Go hold hands in the wolf corner you two
ManInBlack Mon 11:23

We only lynch correctly with the aid of Intel, it seems...
Naomi Mon 11:23

And we lack all intel
Mon 11:24

Honestly as village it feels like our goal was to try and get recruited
Locke Mon 11:24

Because you mislynched all intel roles
Mon 11:25

*ironically claps hands*
Naomi Mon 11:25

Hm isn't Intel and you partitioned to get 1 shot
Mon 11:27

+hurley wasn't exactly a decided lynch
Mon 11:28

All means hurley I guess
Mon 11:28

Well he is large
Mon 11:28

Rotund
Eloise Mon 11:31

Has anyone any light to shed on last night's 4 kills?
Mon 11:31

Because that suggests that Desmond was in fact PM, correct?
Mon 11:32

It's just that I've stopped believing Sun.
MrEko Mon 11:33

eloise i can only rational think vampire + wolf + puppet + puppet
Naomi Mon 11:33

If Desmond was hm, it means it would have to be either a hm, witch, vamp and wolf. Or alpha, hm and vamp
Eloise Mon 11:33

Des was dead. Then how did the puppets die?
Mon 11:34

And do we seriously believe a witch would not have shot Sun? Or Boone? Or me?
MrEko Mon 11:35

hmm
Eloise Mon 11:36

Now I know I am signing my own death warrant here...
MrEko Mon 11:36

what if mikhail and charlotte were puppets yesterday and djinn swapped ben and charlotte last night
Eloise Mon 11:36

But I would like to hear people's opinions on Sun, and why we think she is the real deal.
MrEko Mon 11:36

that would make richard or libby the puppetmaster??
Moderator Mon 11:37

Eloise votes to lynch Sun
Eloise Mon 11:37

To be continued...
MrEko Mon 11:40

locke what do u mean u didnt see her claim??
Mon 11:40

<Locke> [Sun 19:23] Why? Is she that important to you? <MrEko> [Sun 19:24] locke she claimed protector... [Sun 19:25] so yeah kinda important lol
Naomi Mon 11:46

Yeah I saw that too, honestly feels like a plan the way Locke introduced it this morning, and used the most heavy handed hints I've seen
Mon 11:47

Still sticking with ol wolves and coven battling it out
Eloise Mon 11:56

MrEko I thank you for that reminder.
Naomi Mon 11:58

Locke Mon 11:24 Because you mislynched all intel roles Mon 11:25 *ironically claps hands* the use of 'you' instead of we is a fairly good indicator of evilness
Mon 11:59

You seem to be the underdog atm in this evil fest Eloise
Locke Mon 12:26

Yes, I said you...
Mon 12:27

My vote d2 was on Walt... (not knowing he was shrouded)....
Mon 12:27

Then, d3 on charlie (since Boone claimed seer and said charlie was a vamp)
Mon 12:27

D3, and d4 on Eloise because I think she is evil
Mon 12:28

And as I said, I was not following closely enough what everyone said, so I had no idea about her protector claim
Mon 12:28

If I did, I would have counterclaimed right away
MrEko Mon 12:42

so u just ignored me? :( :(
Locke Mon 12:43

No, I did not read all of the chat :/
ManInBlack Mon 12:43

^ hey guys mrEko here is saying something
Walt Mon 12:44

Hai. I am the worst this game with my inactivity.. i know it made me an easy target for my swap. But i've got some time now so trying to catch up.
ManInBlack Mon 12:45

Hi Walt.
Walt Mon 12:49

Hi. I am sorry ?? would not have joined this ext if i thought about when it would start and how crazy this week is for me
Mon 12:51

Was going to just let myself be smited but i hate when I'm keen to play and that happens n we lose village numbers..
Locke Mon 12:54

Walt, what are you?
ManInBlack Mon 13:04

Ok. I think Sun is lit because she trusted Eloise yesterday and voted for Desmond thinking he was Wolfie. If sun is fake, she could've just told us Des was wolf
Naomi Mon 13:07

Walt what ist youra role? Give us all that info you've been saving
ManInBlack Mon 13:07

Sun is 90% lit for me.
Mon 13:09

What Eko said about Locke, that's something to consider...
Mon 13:11

And how Locke talk about the certainty of his death... Well, ok, nvm that...
Sayid Mon 13:20

Hey guys mybe somone shroudd eloise
Mon 13:20

Can we put our vote on boon? For scond
Mon 13:21

That persons who voted sun and walt and lock, change your vote on boone
Sun Mon 13:37

My main concern is the two protectors - It's pretty likely that one of them is fake.
Mon 13:37

But if we vote wrong, we're doomed.
Mon 13:38

Eloise has gotten two village roles lynched (kinda(not just her)) - but they were both suspicious, and I can see Eloise's reasoning.
Mon 13:38

Locke seems kinda genuine to me, but I wouldn't rule out him being evil.
Eloise Mon 13:39

Why didn't Locke speak up when MrEko told him what I'd just claimed?
Sun Mon 13:39

Good point - Locke?
Eloise Mon 13:39

At least I was instant with my response this morning.
Mon 13:42

And I've got another point, but it's about you, Sun.
Mon 13:43

Who were the puppets that died last night?
Sun Mon 13:43

I'm guessing Ben & Mikhail - they were both at the top of my suspicious list.
Mon 13:43

Kate could have been one, idk.
Eloise Mon 13:44

Because if the theory is true that the PM was either Libby or Richard, then the two puppets couldn't have spoken.
Mon 13:44

And only Mikhail didn't speak.
Sun Mon 13:44

Did Kate speak?
Eloise Mon 13:45

She did. Quite a lot, last night. So I don't buy the theory that the PM died the night before last.
Sun Mon 13:45

Well, one of the puppets could have died previously.
Eloise Mon 13:46

I think the PM died when we lynched him. Sorry Sun.
Sun Mon 13:46

You think Desmond is PM?
ManInBlack Mon 13:47

If the Puppetmaster is lynched, the Puppets will die in the morning thereafter. If the Puppetmaster is killed during the night, the Puppets will live for the day (unable to speak) and die the next morning.
Sun Mon 13:47

^
Eloise Mon 13:47

So then why 3 kills + 1 puppet?
Sun Mon 13:47

Hmm
Mon 13:48

1 puppet, 1 witch, 1 vamp, 1 wolf?
Eloise Mon 13:48

Everybody here seems to think it must be 2 kills + 2 puppets.
Mon 13:48

And the witch had no reason to shoot tonight.
ManInBlack Mon 13:49

That is actually a good point Eloise.
Sun Mon 13:49

This could be a good point in favor of the 2 vamp theory.
Eloise Mon 13:50

This could also mean you are a vamp, or a wolf.
Mon 13:50

(Oh dear. Here I go again.)
Mon 13:50

I'll try to unsay that.
Mon 13:51

I don't want to lynch a lit GD.
Mon 13:51

But the dead count does not make sense if we assume the PM was Libby or Richard.
Sun Mon 13:51

That would probably be a bad move, yes.
Mon 13:52

Well, less sense, but it can be explained.
Eloise Mon 13:52

It bothers me that we haven't heard from any stalkers or harlots.
Sun Mon 13:53

Probably all dead by now if they haven't spoke up.
ManInBlack Mon 13:53

Or newbies who need instructions... Trying to be positive...
Sun Mon 13:54

Should we go for a full role call?
Eloise Mon 13:54

I think if Hurley and Des were really lit, then the newbies seem to have taken over the asylum.
Mon 13:56

OK then. We might be able to piece together the dead cast.
Sun Mon 13:57

Sun : Gravedigger
Mon 13:57

Eloise: Protector
Mon 13:57

Locke: Protector
Mon 13:57

Sayid: Ex-Militia
Mon 13:57

Boone: Purged Seer
Mon 13:58

Anyone else claimed?
MrEko Mon 13:58

no i dont think so
Eloise Mon 13:58

No. Except you claimed Des was PM and Hurley was WH. With 25 players including puppets, how big would the evil factions be?
MrEko Mon 13:59

huntsman or puppetmaster?
Sun Mon 13:59

I checked Des as HM, not PM.
Eloise Mon 13:59

Sorry, you are correct.
Sun Mon 14:00

MrEko, care to claim?
Eloise Mon 14:00

I think we are dealing with a wolf pack of 4 and coven of 4+2.
Sun Mon 14:00

1 or 2 vamps though?
Eloise Mon 14:00

Then VM or two regular vamps.
Sun Mon 14:00

Yeah
Eloise Mon 14:01

But for the village to have only 1 GD and no stalkers or harlots...
Sun Mon 14:01

Well, there was probably a 2nd GD who died early on.
Mon 14:02

Same with stalkers/harlots.
Mon 14:02

That, or the mod's gone crazy.
Eloise Mon 14:02

And then I think a wolf must have shifted by now.
Mon 14:02

I found Jon's change of tone odd the other day.
Mon 14:03

*Jin's
Sun Mon 14:03

Hmm
Eloise Mon 14:03

But now he's dead.
Sun Mon 14:03

I miss Jin.
Eloise Mon 14:04

He would have been easy to shift into.
Sun Mon 14:04

Okay, let's go for a full role claim. It's dangerous, but if we keep lynching the way we are, we're doomed.
Eloise Mon 14:04

<3 Sun
Mon 14:05

If you see what I mean...
Sun Mon 14:05

Yeah
Mon 14:05

Dead now, either way.
Mon 14:05

:(
Mon 14:05

*holds a funeral*
Eloise Mon 14:06

But worth looking at who he put under pressure yesterday and before...
Mon 14:07

How do you want to do this role claim then?
Sun Mon 14:07

Everyone says their role.
Mon 14:07

Pretty simple.
Eloise Mon 14:07

People won't feel pressured enough to come out.
Mon 14:08

They will be happy to stay silent and watch me get lynched.
Mon 14:08

Won't you, people?
Mon 14:08
Mon 14:08

*resounding silence*
Sun Mon 14:08

True, you have accused enough of them for that. But we need a role claim to actually make progress.
Eloise Mon 14:09

I am Protector.
Sun Mon 14:09

I am Gravedigger
Moderator Mon 14:10

Sun votes to lynch Charlotte
Sun Mon 14:10

There you go, Eloise.
Eloise Mon 14:11

So shall I join you then to pressure her?
Mon 14:12

I have no idea about her but that is mostly because she has hardly contributed anything.
Mon 14:14

Why is she on
Mon 14:14

6 on the sus dial?
Mon 14:15

Or was that Naomi who said that?
Mon 14:42
Mon 14:43

I'm not sure this is going to work. There are also very few people left to turn the tide.
Moderator Mon 14:43

Eloise votes to lynch Locke
Eloise Mon 14:45

And rather than trying a full role call I think all villagers will want to focus on the number of deaths last night, and possible reasons.
Sun Mon 15:11

Not about what we want now, it's about what we need. We need a role call to have any hope of catching the remaining evils.
Boone Mon 15:11

I read up, sorry hat meetings all day.
Sun Mon 15:12

Heya Boone,
Boone Mon 15:13

Troubles. So has Eloise given any explanation to not speaking up day 2? She claims blocked right?
Mon 15:13

WALT DID NOT VOTE, YOU NEED TO VOTE
Mon 15:13

How can people show up and not vote
Mon 15:14

so 4 deaths, Mechanics say if PM was killed at night this would mean the deaths from N3 contained the pm. If we believe sun this must be the case.
Mon 15:15

or we got another explanation for this carnage
Sun Mon 15:15

Familiar Militia.
Boone Mon 15:16

how do we reach 4 with this?
Mon 15:16

like vamp, fam milita, plus alpha?
Sun Mon 15:16

1 Wolf kill, 1 vamp kill.
Mon 15:17

Mikahail may have been a puppet.
Mon 15:17

So that's 3.
Mon 15:17

4th could be: Fam militia, witch, AW.
Mon 15:17

Or a 2nd Huntsman (If we have 2 prot's, why not)
Boone Mon 15:20

we never have 2 ports
Mon 15:20

*prots
Moderator Mon 15:20

Boone votes to lynch Eloise
Naomi Mon 15:21

Mikhail and Charlotte did not speak or vote yesterday
Sun Mon 15:21

Yes, but charlotte didn't die, so she can't have been a puppet.
Naomi Mon 15:21

Yes but could have been swapped
Sun Mon 15:22

Could be, actually.
Mon 15:22

But the puppet would have died.
Mon 15:23

So it could be 2 puppet deaths, 1 vamp, 1 wolf.
Boone Mon 15:23

no matter how you swap, the puppets will die
Naomi Mon 15:24

But you could swap a coven into a dying puppet
Sun Mon 15:24

Yep, but it could explain the 4th death, as an alternate possibility. Can't see a motivation for it, though.
Naomi Mon 15:25

Would mean Richard or Libbey are pm
Mon 15:27

Which would mean 2 dead coven, 1 vamp, and unknown wolf number in grave. Depending on how hungry evils are for each other
Sun Mon 15:27

Well, if Charlie recruited (he probably did), then the vamp is among us.
Naomi Mon 15:33

I'd say worst case is barely any wolves dead, and them gaining majority tonight
Mon 15:34

Vamp, wolves taste lovely you know
Mon 15:34

Go on treat yourself
Mon 15:34

You deserve it
Mon 15:35

Have a side dish of coven
Eloise Mon 16:01

Boone, what do you mean when you ask why I didn't speak up on D2? I spoke plenty. It has become my downfall, in fact. And the village's, I'm afraid.
Mon 16:02

I tried to speak less, but there was just too little sense in what the noisiest people said. I felt I had to speak.
Mon 16:02

And I'm really sorry I've let the village down. I was too focused on the logic and who sided with who to notice our numbers going down at such a rate that I believe we're currently outnumbered.
Mon 16:04

Sun, I think familiar militia may indeed be the answer to 3 kills + 1 puppet. Will there be at least 1 intel role alive and functioning then?
Sun Mon 16:06

I'm an intel role, our seer's purged, and no stalkers/harlots have come forward at all.
Mon 16:06

Naomi, what's your role, actually?
Mon 16:07

Oh yeah, and we lynched the WH. We are runnign very low on intel.
Locke Mon 16:09

And protection... since you only have me as protector
Mon 16:10

And if I get blocked tonight (which will probably be the case)... Then I guess it's goodbye protector and goodbye gravedigger...
Mon 16:10

Yeah, there I said it
Mon 16:11

If not blocked, I'll protect Sun
Eloise Mon 16:11

But of course you will be blocked. Won't you now?
Mon 16:12

I would actually have thought wolves would block a protector to kill the protector. Frees up their DW to block other people for a change.
Mon 16:13

I suspect Sun, if lit, will be killed tonight so she can't declare me lit. Locke will claim he was role blocked.
Mon 16:13
Mon 16:14

It looks like after tonight the village will have lost. I will be dead a long with likely two other innocents. That is 8 people left, including a VM with one or two familiars, at least a wolf and some coven. The remaining villagers will be left without intelligence.
Mon 16:15

Boone, I am sorry I couldn't count on your reasoning that I found so helpful earlier this game. I think I know why... But I've said enough. We've lost. Goodbye.
MrEko Mon 16:15

eloise
Eloise Mon 16:16

*sigh*
MrEko Mon 16:16

y 3 kills + 1 puppet
Eloise Mon 16:16

Because if it were 2 kills + 2 puppets that means Desmond was PM.
Mon 16:17

And Sun would be lying.
MrEko Mon 16:17

or richard or libby
Eloise Mon 16:17

But then two puppets would not have been able to speak all day yesterday.
Mon 16:17

Which would they have been?
Mon 16:17

Granted, they could have been swapped.
MrEko Mon 16:18

and neither charlotte or mikhail spoke
Eloise Mon 16:18

But who did not speak at all yesterday?
Mon 16:18

OK.
MrEko Mon 16:18

so charlotte might have been swapped
Mon 16:18

i said this earlier
Eloise Mon 16:18

So Charlotte would have died in somebody else's body. Ben's?
MrEko Mon 16:18

yes
Eloise Mon 16:18

This makes sense.
MrEko Mon 16:18

that would b the logical conclusion
Eloise Mon 16:18

Thank you for reasoning with me.
Mon 16:19

Even after I shouted you out for coven earlier this game.
Mon 16:19

You're sure YOU haven't been swapped into MrE?
MrEko Mon 16:19

i get that a lot
Eloise Mon 16:19

Sorry, gallows humour.
Mon 16:20

I am just so baffled at being involved in killing a WH and a HM if Sun is lit.
Mon 16:20

But apart from the fact that nothing has confirmed her, she has a village feel to her.
Mon 16:21

Which Hursley and Desmond definitely did not have.
MrEko Mon 16:21

i dont no if i trust sun as much as i did prev but i dont rly see a viable way that she would b lying
Mon 16:22

i think if she was lying shed have faked different checks
Eloise Mon 16:22

Anyway, I think the village is already outnumbered and will lose. I could put up more of a fight, but like Sun said, I've accused or called out too many people already.
MrEko Mon 16:22

1s that make the village more complacent
Mon 16:23

i dont trust locke at all
Mon 16:23

hes at best shaman at worst wolf or vampire
Eloise Mon 16:24

I knew he was evil from when he was repeating Desmond yesterday, saying I spread poison. But I didn't expect him to counterclaim me.
Mon 16:25

I really think there is a VM, one or two familiars, maybe two wolves and some more coven around, so I am not going to win this fight against Locke.
Mon 16:25

All evil factions gain by my death.
Mon 16:26

And I am sorry to have made my suspicions so obvious that all evils can now work together happily to eliminate me.
MrEko Mon 16:26

who do u think r the remaining evils eloise?
Eloise Mon 16:27

Do you really want me to say that?
MrEko Mon 16:27

also r u voting locke rite now??
Eloise Mon 16:27

Or do you think there is still a chance I might live?
MrEko Mon 16:27

im not sure
Eloise Mon 16:27

To be honest, even if we lynch Locke instead of me we will lose.
MrEko Mon 16:27

we could try 2 balance on some1
Eloise Mon 16:28

No, we need to lynch.
MrEko Mon 16:28

if ur on locke we could both vote charlotte
Eloise Mon 16:28

But if we can't convince people to lynch Locke, maybe Walt is a good alternative.
Mon 16:28

I am on Locke.
Mon 16:28

What's happening votes wise? I thought I was dead already.
MrEko Mon 16:28

walt or charlotte
Mon 16:29

both r probably coven
Eloise Mon 16:29

I don't know about Charlotte. What has she actually said?
Mon 16:29

I agree about Walt.
MrEko Mon 16:29

u have 5 so kind yeah lol
Mon 16:29

but mb we can get ppl to change
Eloise Mon 16:30

Like I said, I think I am dead already. You seem the only one I've called out before who does not seem hellbent on lynching me.
Charlotte Mon 16:30

Neither am I
MrEko Mon 16:31

hi charlotte
Charlotte Mon 16:31

From what I can see, you are prob lit. But balancing on me? I can't vote myself
Eloise Mon 16:31

Have I called you out
Mon 16:31

Charlotte?
MrEko Mon 16:31

r u ben?
Eloise Mon 16:31

I can't even remember.
Charlotte Mon 16:31

I don't know. I was busy (meta)
Mon 16:31

I am not Ben.
Eloise Mon 16:31

Well, Charlotte, you could vote Walt I suppose.
Charlotte Mon 16:32

From what I can see, Walt is suspicious. Who did you protect yesterday night?
Moderator Mon 16:32

Charlotte votes to lynch Walt
Moderator Mon 16:32

MrEko votes to lynch Walt
Moderator Mon 16:32

Eloise votes to lynch Walt
Charlotte Mon 16:33

Eliose. Who did you protect yesterday night?
Eloise Mon 16:34

Do you really want me to say that?
Charlotte Mon 16:34

Please? Nobody is providing info right now.
Eloise Mon 16:35

I could not protect that person again.
Sun Mon 16:35

Charlotte, what's your role?
Charlotte Mon 16:35

Villager.
MrEko Mon 16:36

vanilla villager?
Sun Mon 16:36

MrEko, what about you?
Charlotte Mon 16:37

Something to consider, even if you said who you protected last night, he or she may not be lit.
Eloise Mon 16:37

It would be so helpful if you were stalker, and I could be confirmed by you...
MrEko Mon 16:38

sun im militia
Eloise Mon 16:38

But we'd have to do this awfully awkward thing with a simultaneous reveal...
Charlotte Mon 16:38

I am so sorry, Eloise.
MrEko Mon 16:41

do u guys think there could b a succubus hiding out there?
Eloise Mon 16:41

We haven't heard of any redirects at all.
Sun Mon 16:41

Could be, but there's been no evidence so far.
Eloise Mon 16:41

I've heard they are easy to miss, though...
Mon 16:42

For instance, if a stalker gets redirected, they will read "your target went nowhere" or something like that.
Mon 16:42

Or a beholder: "your target saw nothing".
MrEko Mon 16:43

well im not gonna shoot 2nite just in case lol
Sun Mon 16:43

I think penelope is actually a solid lynch, considering all things. Unless I'm forgetting something.
Eloise Mon 16:43

Let's consider the coven roles.
MrEko Mon 16:43

dont wanna blow my load over myself if u catch my drift
Eloise Mon 16:43

We had a PM + puppets
Mon 16:43

We had a Shaman
Mon 16:43

We had or have a Djinn
Mon 16:44

We had an Alchemist which could have rerolled the Shaman that Sun dug up.
MrEko Mon 16:44

an alchemist
Eloise Mon 16:44

Another alchemist?
MrEko Mon 16:44

but that might b the shaman
Eloise Mon 16:45

Oh, a harpy of course!
MrEko Mon 16:45

oyeah
Sun Mon 16:45

In that case...
Eloise Mon 16:45

So, there: a harpy (still alive), an alchemist turned Shaman (dead), a PM (dead) and a Djinn (presumed living).
Sun Mon 16:45

^
Eloise Mon 16:46

Unless there were 5 coven +2 but I don't hope so.
Sun Mon 16:46

Well, that's not to bad.
Mon 16:46

Onto the Wolves?
Eloise Mon 16:46

So two coven, a VM + familiar(s) and wolves.
Mon 16:46

There is a DW unless he got killed by a vampire.
Sun Mon 16:46

Probably 4 wolves, and considering all the kills, quite possible an AW.
MrEko Mon 16:46

harpy charlotte + djinn walt?
Eloise Mon 16:47

I suspect a SS, probably shifted into Jin.
Mon 16:47

Because his tone changed somewhat yesterday.
MrEko Mon 16:47

has ne1 been silenced recently??
Eloise Mon 16:47

Not me.
Sun Mon 16:47

Well, the SS is dead in that case.
Eloise Mon 16:47

I know, but not necessarily if another shift was made.
Sun Mon 16:48

If we're lucky we only have 2 or 3 wolves left.
MrEko Mon 16:48

another shift??
Sun Mon 16:48

And a VM, with 1 familiar (maybe 2).
MrEko Mon 16:48

ss can only shift once
Eloise Mon 16:48

3 would be more than we can lynch, even if we lynch Locke who is a wolf I think.
Mon 16:48

I honestly think we have lost already.
Sun Mon 16:49

11 players left - 2 coven, 3 wolves, 1 VM, 1 fam, 5 village.
Mon 16:49

But, hopefully the factions have killed some of each other.
Mon 16:49

Best case:
Mon 16:50

1 coven, 2 (or even 1) wolves, 1 VM, 7 village.
MrEko Mon 16:50

ok if we assume 5 village then ...
Eloise Mon 16:50

I believe in the worst case, possibly even with 2 familiars. Which is why there are so many votes on me. And if Charlotte is coven she will probably take her vote off Walt and onto me just before nightfall.
MrEko Mon 16:51

sun gravedigger sayid militia eloise protector mreko militia boone seer-now-villager?
Eloise Mon 16:51

A vanilla villager seems indeed odd with so many evils around. Charlotte, are you not secretly something else? I would hope so.
Moderator Mon 16:52

Sun votes to lynch Walt
MrEko Mon 16:52

obvs u guys have no reason 2 believe my claim but thats how i see it from my pov
Mon 16:53

im not entirely trusting boone yet either but no1 better fills the space lol
Boone Mon 16:55

are you guys dumb?
Mon 16:55

Sorry for the insult but..
Mon 16:55

You do realize we're lynching someone who's about to get smited?
Sun Mon 16:56

Oh yeah...
Moderator Mon 16:56

Sun votes to lynch Penelope
MrEko Mon 16:56

mb
Mon 16:56

i prefer the term suboptimal
Eloise Mon 16:56

*sigh* OK
Moderator Mon 16:56

Eloise votes to lynch Penelope
Moderator Mon 16:57

MrEko votes to lynch Penelope
Boone Mon 16:57

Did I miss something, or why we diverted from soling the locke/eloise thing?
Eloise Mon 16:57

Because we felt that Locke would never get enough votes to give me half a chance.
Mon 16:58

Why is your vote on me?
MrEko Mon 16:58

boone i just wanted votes away from eloise bcoz i believe her and i didnt think we could lynch locke
Boone Mon 16:58

You didn't answer my question Eloise
Sun Mon 16:58

Idk about them, they both seem lit. Hard to choose.
Boone Mon 16:59

You claim to be blocked n1 right?
Eloise Mon 16:59

Yes.
MrEko Mon 16:59

boone also u say hes about 2 get smited but he might just turn up rly late and vote
Eloise Mon 16:59

Is it THAT you meant?
Mon 16:59

About not speaking up?
Boone Mon 16:59

did you mention it day 2 that you were blocked'
Eloise Mon 16:59

No.
Boone Mon 16:59

why?
Sun Mon 16:59

Oooh
MrEko Mon 16:59

boone she answered this yesterday
Eloise Mon 16:59

I kept it quiet, lest I get blocked again.
Mon 17:00

I've seen people shout "BLOCKED" and then get blocked again.
MrEko Mon 17:00

she said she thought it would expose her as a power role
Eloise Mon 17:00

And then people lynch them because they are found suspicious.
Sun Mon 17:00

Hmmm
Mon 17:00

Like what's (almost) happening now?
Eloise Mon 17:01

Boone, why do you find this more suspicious than Locke ignoring MrEko when he said what I just claimed?
Sun Mon 17:01

You are both actually pretty suspicous.
Eloise Mon 17:01

Locke simply CAN'T not have seen my claim. It was rubbed into his face.
Mon 17:01

Locke didn't bat an eyelid.
Sun Mon 17:02

Yeah, Locke's probably evil.
Mon 17:02

You make a good argument, Eloise.
Eloise Mon 17:02

But nobody will vote for him, and I probably wouldn't trust myself after how positive I felt that Hurley and Desmond were evil.
Sun Mon 17:02

Shall we try and push through a lynch?
Mon 17:02

Or just play it safe?
Moderator Mon 17:03

Boone votes to lynch Locke
Eloise Mon 17:03

I obviously want Locke lynched but I have obviously wanted other people lynched who you have now declared lit.
Sun Mon 17:03

Pennelope seems a safe lynch imo, but taking out Locke is riskier, but more rewarding if succesful.
Boone Mon 17:03

I think the false prot is shaman
Eloise Mon 17:03

Boone, whoa!
Mon 17:03

How did you figure that out?
Mon 17:04

Did we not have a dead shaman already?
Boone Mon 17:04

What other evil role would claim prot?
Eloise Mon 17:04

Hmmm...
Mon 17:04

Given that he claimed to have been role-blocked, I thought he was a wolf.
MrEko Mon 17:04

boone who r ur top 3 evil suspects rite now?
Eloise Mon 17:04

He could have made sure nobody else would claim a role block.
Sun Mon 17:05

Harpy, Djin, Alchemist, PM.
Mon 17:05

No room for a shaman...
Boone Mon 17:05

I agree on not seeing your claim makes locke super sketchy
Sun Mon 17:05

Well, alchemist became shaman.
Eloise Mon 17:05

Unless the coven was 5 + 2
Sun Mon 17:06

I think he's more likley a wolf who know about our lack of stalkers/harlots.
Eloise Mon 17:06

I am afraid that us juggling votes around like we're doing right now is going to end in my death.
Moderator Mon 17:06

Sun votes to lynch Locke
Moderator Mon 17:06

Eloise votes to lynch Locke
Eloise Mon 17:07

But thank you all so much for at least listening and discussing this with me.
MrEko Mon 17:07

boone i agree about shaman but mb any evil role could risk the claim bcoz they might think they do not need 2 worry about there being a stalker or a witchhunter left alive
Charlotte Mon 17:07

Eloise, who did you protect? From what I see, it is crucial.
Moderator Mon 17:07

Charlotte votes to lynch Locke
Eloise Mon 17:07

Charlotte, I can say it but I'm afraid for that person's life...
Boone Mon 17:08

Hmm what if locke is shrouded
Mon 17:08

He claims a role he knows he'll get lynched for
MrEko Mon 17:08

eloise if they have a dire wolf ur useless neway
Boone Mon 17:09

Like he's baiting us?
MrEko Mon 17:09

boone should we balance around him?
Eloise Mon 17:09

This is also why I was doubting Sun... Because I did not get blocked last night.
Mon 17:09

OK, MrEko, you've convinced me.
Mon 17:09

I protected Sun.
Mon 17:10

*hangs head in fear*
Sun Mon 17:10

Oh dear.
Mon 17:10

I'm doomed.
Eloise Mon 17:10

I'm so sorry! And this is why I thought that plan of Locke's was so mean, because you are sure to die now!
Sun Mon 17:10

Well, I expected that anyway.
Mon 17:11

At least I can see Jin again...
Mon 17:11

:(
Moderator Mon 17:11

MrEko votes to lynch Walt
Charlotte Mon 17:11

Pabo
Mon 17:11

Don't worry so much, Sun.
MrEko Mon 17:12

pabo?
Eloise Mon 17:12

^
Charlotte Mon 17:12

Korean for 'silly'
MrEko Mon 17:12

o #metaalert
Charlotte Mon 17:12

Did google translate(meta)
Eloise Mon 17:13

Charlotte, it would really reassure me if you could say something more about why Sun ought not to worry...
Sun Mon 17:13

I'm not worried, but I mean, if I'm unprotected, and an intel role, I'm likley to die...
MrEko Mon 17:13

"dont worry sun ur death will be painless"
Charlotte Mon 17:13

From what I see, I was just trying to comfort her.
Mon 17:14

I was unsure and did not dare to confront anybody, so I admire your straightforwardness Eloise.
Boone Mon 17:15

How many peeps are online at the moment?. How many votes we got?
Eloise Mon 17:15

I feel I have failed the village though by being far too straightforward.
Sun Mon 17:15

Tbh, if I'm still alive tommorow, it will be as a familiar.
Eloise Mon 17:17

Boone, who do you think the vampire might be? Or do you think it was a normal vampire with just one familiar?
Boone Mon 17:17

How many votes ere here?
Eloise Mon 17:17

9
Boone Mon 17:18

No like online
Eloise Mon 17:18

How can we see that?
Boone Mon 17:18

You cant
Mon 17:18

Ok check the start of the day
MrEko Mon 17:19

so um
Eloise Mon 17:19

Well I've not seen MIB, Locke and Naomi for a couple of hours.
Mon 17:19

Or Sayid.
Mon 17:19

And I don't know Penelope showed up at all today.
Boone Mon 17:19

Who is naomi on?
Mon 17:20

I'm on mobile sorry
Eloise Mon 17:20

Me, I think?
MrEko Mon 17:20

at the risk of sounding paranoid do we have any reason to think that boone wasnt purged by becoming a familiar?
Eloise Mon 17:20

She did sound sympathetic to me though.
MrEko Mon 17:20

asking 4 a friend
Boone Mon 17:20

Read her first stentence of the day
Mon 17:21

It's kinda striking for me
MrEko Mon 17:21

about puppets + wolves?
Boone Mon 17:21

And vamp
MrEko Mon 17:21

ye
Mon 17:22

what strikes u about it?
Boone Mon 17:22

That's oddly specific
Mon 17:22

We didn't know we lynched hm by then
Mon 17:22

For me she's like ahead of the discussion
Locke Mon 17:24

Not even gonna bother to read this all trough... I've read enough
Mon 17:24

Good job people...
Mon 17:24

Being so blind...
Mon 17:24

*slow claps*
Boone Mon 17:24

Chill and tell me what you guys think about naomi?
Mon 17:24

She's hours ahead of us
Locke Mon 17:25

Sun... do not be shocked tomorrow morning when you get the message that I was a protector
Mon 17:25

And yeah, congratulations to Eloise on such a good evil play...
Moderator Mon 17:25

Boone votes to lynch Naomi
Locke Mon 17:25

You made everyone trust you
Charlotte Mon 17:26

Eloise, sorry if I sound paranoid, how did you stay alive after claiming protector?
Mon 17:26

From what I see, the wolves are hungry for benign magic users.
Boone Mon 17:26

Why is everyone ignoring me?
Eloise Mon 17:27

Boone, I am getting all kinds of questions fired at me.
Mon 17:27

Sorry for being slow. What are you suggesting about Naomi?
Charlotte Mon 17:27

Just clarification, Eloise.
MrEko Mon 17:27

sry boone i got distracted by something else but now im rly muddled up
Boone Mon 17:27

She knows what happened
MrEko Mon 17:28

u asked us 2 read back and then i noticed charlotte spoke early morning
Mon 17:28

and morning charlotte didnt sound like evening charlotte :s
Charlotte Mon 17:28

Really? I'm so sorry
MrEko Mon 17:29

but since its not poss 2 swap in the day i now dont no what 2 think
Boone Mon 17:29

She says xx and yy LIKELEY pupets, but no doubt about the rest
MrEko Mon 17:30

neway naomi could have just been making assumptions idk
Charlotte Mon 17:30

@MrEko, I was on phone in the morning.
MrEko Mon 17:30

orite
Boone Mon 17:31

It doesnt sound like an assumption
Eloise Mon 17:31

Naomi asked me a couple of critical questions and I got the impression she was weighing up the evidence from what Locke and I were saying.
Mon 17:31

But I was preoccupied with my own position to notice what she said about puppets.
Boone Mon 17:31

We lynched the vamp right?
MrEko Mon 17:32

i just saw locke said "confused" lol
Boone Mon 17:32

Or did we? Are there two?
MrEko Mon 17:32

evil confirmed
Eloise Mon 17:32

Yes, but we don't know who they recruited.
Mon 17:32

The vamp, that is.
Mon 17:32

Boone, what kind of vamp was it?
Mon 17:32

Do you get to see VM or Vampire?
Boone Mon 17:32

I mean it sounds like it's obvious there's a vamp?
MrEko Mon 17:33

y did locke assume that the evils no his role just bcoz he was role blocked?
Locke Mon 17:33

Guys... what are the coven left alive still?
Mon 17:33

Well, what were your conclusion at least?
MrEko Mon 17:33

locke we dont know
Mon 17:34

eloise listed some possibilities earlier u should go and read
Locke Mon 17:34

MrEko, I already answered your question... It's because I hinted my role a few times
MrEko Mon 17:34

y did u hint?
Mon 17:35

wen has hinting ever helped ne1??
Locke Mon 17:35

@Sun Mon 17:05 Harpy, Djin, Alchemist, PM. Mon 17:05 No room for a shaman...
MrEko Mon 17:35

(thats both rhetorical and a trick q because it never helps)
Locke Mon 17:36

Actually... I thinks that there is room for shaman... and that harpie is dead...
Boone Mon 17:36

I'll die for this -_-
MrEko Mon 17:36

kamakazeeeeee
Sun Mon 17:36

Why do you think that locke?
Locke Mon 17:36

Look, let me try to talk reason into you guys...
Boone Mon 17:37

Nobody believed me
MrEko Mon 17:37

boone??
Sun Mon 17:37

Belived you about what, Boone?
Eloise Mon 17:37

Boone, are you saying Naomi is vampire?
Boone Mon 17:37

I think so.
Sun Mon 17:37

Hmmm
Mon 17:38

Hmmmmmmmm
Mon 17:38

Interesting
Boone Mon 17:38

She's so ahead of everyone
MrEko Mon 17:38

im worried naomi is marked lol
Eloise Mon 17:38

Well, I considered the possibility but drew the conclusion that Sun in that case must have been lying.
Locke Mon 17:38

Sun is lit... because noone ever countered her claim... if there were HM and WH alive, they would step forward once she announced her checks... Boone is also lit, unless recruited and is being very good at it (but I don't wanna go there just yet)
Sun Mon 17:38

Check for similarities between her & Charlie.
Boone Mon 17:38

I'm on mlbile
Eloise Mon 17:39

Sun, will do.
Mon 17:39

But you do know that this implicates you as well?
Mon 17:39

Or am I misinterpreting?
Mon 17:39

Oh of course, the swap thing...
Locke Mon 17:40

Also... since there are all 3 evil factions, I think the chances for wolves or Vamp hiting a harpie are quite high... and after d2 when Harpie shrouded Walt, there was no sign of any shrouds right?
Mon 17:41

So... coven are harpie short, but I am unsure about other roles... but Eloise I believe is coven.
Mon 17:42

I am not sure about MrEko being Militia... and the way he writes somehow makes you guys believe his words
Mon 17:42

I don't wanna be throwing accusations, but consider MrEko being a Wolf
Charlotte Mon 17:43

@Eloise Why is she still alive after claiming protector? Just unsure about it, she could be real protector... or..
Locke Mon 17:43

But MrEko did feed my theory a bit...
Mon 17:44

When I said that Boone could be a familiar... ( MrEko Mon 17:38 im worried naomi is marked lol)
Mon 17:45

But... in that case... who is a vamp,
Mon 17:46

Okay, I can't... I screwed up with my inactivity and laziness
MrEko Mon 17:46

charlie would have 2 be vamp I guess
Locke Mon 17:46

And Because I did not read most of the chat
MrEko Mon 17:46

well charlie or desmond
Mon 17:47

but boone sacrificing his master doesnt sit rite with me
Mon 17:47

i dont like that theory
Locke Mon 17:48

No... I was thinking that there were 2 vamp teams...
MrEko Mon 17:48

i dont think so
Locke Mon 17:48

No... Boone is not a fam
Mon 17:49

He can't be... because charlie was lynched the same day he was announced a vamp
MrEko Mon 17:49

i dont think there can be 2 "normal" vampires and 2 vampire masters in this would be super op
Locke Mon 17:49

No, there is either 1 VM or 2 regular vamps
Eloise Mon 17:50

Boone can theoretically be a familiar. This would explain the "purge".
Locke Mon 17:50

And I tend to believe that we are dealing with VM
MrEko Mon 17:50

eloise that was my thought but i dont think it fits
Eloise Mon 17:50

And I don't see any reason to lynch Naomi for saying what she said this morning.
Locke Mon 17:50

That's why Charlie gave up so easily
Eloise Mon 17:51

It seems plenty more people assumed two puppets dead.
Locke Mon 17:51

Because he was a VM and got revived into his fam right away... but whom?
MrEko Mon 17:51

lol i thought puppets died n2 so i cant judge ppl assuming things
Mon 17:52

i wish sun had dug him
Mon 17:52

always dig the lynch ppl
Mon 17:52

always
Locke Mon 17:53

And I do believe that Boone was purged... and why he is still alive? Well, because he poses no danger to coven nor wolves, and the don't wana bother killing him because he is useful to them alive... because people can suspect him and be blind to anything else
Sun Mon 17:53

He had kinda confessed already at that point though, I w
Mon 17:53

planned to wait.
Mon 17:53

And see if he came back.
MrEko Mon 17:53

if were dealing with a vampire master its definitely like 99.9% not boone
Locke Mon 17:54

Yes, but whom?
Eloise Mon 17:54

It was my fault that Sun didn't dig Charlie. I was so keen on finding out what JulieWalt was because it would prove Boone.
Locke Mon 17:54

Okay, I at least have people I can trust... Sun, Boone, myself
MrEko Mon 17:54

mb its u locke mb its u ...
Locke Mon 17:55

No... not a vamp here...
MrEko Mon 17:55

if charlie recruited it would have 2 b n1 or n2 or both
Charlotte Mon 17:55

@Locke, who did you protect last night?
Locke Mon 17:56

Self... but I was blocked, so, noone
MrEko Mon 17:56

charlotte he was blocked apparently
Mon 17:56

lag sry
Locke Mon 17:56

I will repeat it once more:
Eloise Mon 17:56

Charlotte, I'm not sure this is the right kind of question. I still feel awful about having made Sun so vulnerable.
MrEko Mon 17:57

once more with feeling?
Locke Mon 17:57

N1-self ; N2-Boone ; N3-Sun ; N4-self
Mon 17:57

And blocked n4
Mon 17:57

And intend to protect Sun again if I don't get lynched
Sun Mon 17:58

Thanks
Locke Mon 17:58

But since you guys say wolves can block the same person 2 nights in a row, then I guess I will be blocked again
Sun Mon 17:58

:( I think my chances here are pretty low.
Locke Mon 18:00

My suspects: maninblack, eloise, and maybe sayid
Sun Mon 18:00

But if we've been lucky, the village still has a chance. (If it's the worst case scenario, we're doomed)
Locke Mon 18:00

I don't know who is what though
Eloise Mon 18:00

I think all villagers' chances are pretty low.
Mon 18:00

I trust Sayid to be villager but I just seem to rub him up the wrong way.
Sun Mon 18:00

I would like Walt, Penelope, Naomi and MiB to claim.
Mon 18:01

But I don't know how much it would help.
Locke Mon 18:01

I gtg... I will come back to reread the rest of the chat and to do my night action if I survive
Sun Mon 18:01

Is the night action to kill me, or protect me?
MrEko Mon 18:01

"do my night action" lol thats a bit vague
Eloise Mon 18:02

Just one more time... Would it be AT ALL possible that we have two protectors to compensate us for an apparent lack of intel roles?
Sun Mon 18:02

Possible: yes. Likley: no.
Locke Mon 18:02

Consider this... Walt might still be the original Walt=coven... and said he is Juliet... (since she is dead, she can't counterclaim)
Sun Mon 18:02

We did have HM.
Eloise Mon 18:02

Locke, go away with your attempts to make us believe Walt is still Walt. He isn't.
Sun Mon 18:02

Juliet is/was a shaman, though, I cheked her.
Eloise Mon 18:03

I feel sorry for the coven, but the system messed up and I saw who was swapped.
Locke Mon 18:03

I am not trying to make you believe it, I was just considering if it was possible
Eloise Mon 18:04

Whoever is now in Walt is clearly not contributing anyway.
Locke Mon 18:04

And @Sun, my night action is to protect
Eloise Mon 18:04

So there is another player gone, possibly a bored innocent. We are really too low on numbers I fear.
MrEko Mon 18:12

sun eloise 2 protectors is not possible its 1 of mods rules about game setups
Locke Mon 18:15

Well then, there you have it!
Mon 18:15

Eloise is fake!
Mon 18:15

I did miss her claim because I was not reading all that has been said in past days
Mon 18:16

Because I was busy and only asked for a quick summaries on D2 and D3
Boone Mon 18:16

IF I die tonight, lynch Naomi. *whelp*
Locke Mon 18:17

And she probably thought that it would be safe for her to claim when she did (I don't know when she did), because with all the dead count, she probably thought that protector is dead and that she is safe to claim that
Mon 18:18

And since I did not see it to counterclaim her, you guys believed her... and once I claimed, you found me suspicious :/
Moderator Mon 18:20

Charlotte votes to lynch Eloise
Boone Mon 18:22

why Eloise charlotte?
Sun Mon 18:23

There goes the delicate balance...
Locke Mon 18:31

One question... Whose idea it was to balance at all?
Sun Mon 18:31

No one wanted to balance. It just happened.
Locke Mon 18:31

Balancing? On D5? And we're loosing the battle?
Mon 18:31

Are you sure? Because I thought that someone mentioned that we could balance
Sun Mon 18:32

I think someone may have, but yeah, that wouldn't be good.
Locke Mon 18:32

Let me go back and read whom
Mon 18:36

MrEko Mon 17:09 boone should we balance around him?
Mon 18:37

MrEko? Why would you balance when evils are wining?
Mon 18:37

We need to lynch, but we need to lynch the right person
Mon 18:37

But for now, it does seam we are gonna lynch the right person Eloise
MrEko Mon 18:39

um does that say balance???
Mon 18:39

no it says balance around
Locke Mon 18:39

Where is the difference?
MrEko Mon 18:39

<Boone> [Mon 17:08] Hmm what if locke is shrouded [Mon 17:08] He claims a role he knows he'll get lynched for
Mon 18:39

<MrEko> [Mon 17:09] boone should we balance around him?
Mon 18:40

the difference is that u get lynched lol
Locke Mon 18:41

If you want me dead, then by all means...
Mon 18:41

I can even help you
Moderator Mon 18:41

Locke votes to lynch ManInBlack
Locke Mon 18:41

There... I removed my vote from Eloise
Mon 18:42

Now go ahead and pile your votes on your protector
Mon 18:42

I really don't give an F anymore
Mon 18:42

Since I can't see how a village can possibly win if you guys are so blind
Mon 18:43

And what an irony it would be if me, sun and Boone were the only active village members, and the rest of you were evils... and that those silent ones are actually village people who gave up on this game?
Mon 18:52

I hope this silence means you guys are rethinking everything
Moderator Mon 18:52

Locke votes to lynch Eloise
Locke Mon 18:53

Actually, no, I don't want to let her get trough with this
Eloise Mon 19:11

Sorry Charlotte, I apparently failed to convince you.
Locke Mon 19:12

Which is good, Charlotte, since Eloise is evil
Eloise Mon 19:12

To answer your question, which I didn't get round to in the melee around Boone's new-found target: I did come out two days after self-protecting.
Mon 19:13

I banked on wolves and vampires thinking that I would self-protect again, and tried to save Sun instead.
Mon 19:13

Not the right choice, it appears from the dead count this morning.
Mon 19:13

But then I was not going to save Ben or Mikhail anyway.
Mon 19:14

Jin I would have liked to save but he seemed off the last day or so...
Mon 19:14

Kate... I have no idea what Kate was. But she seemed village to me from our last night's conversation.
Mon 19:15
Mon 19:15

I have a confession to make though.
Mon 19:16

N3 I did protect Mikhail. May have been misguided, but I thought he went for puppets with some critical logic.
Mon 19:17

And I was trying to think who wolves would go for... I had almost decided on Richard but I hesitated just too long and then it was the crack of dawn.
Mon 19:19

Anyway... This is becoming impossible. I look forward to hearing from the folks down in the graveyard and will try to make some sense of all this before it ends. It won't be a village win in any case, I reckon...
Mon 19:21

Good luck everybody. I just wish Sun would be alive and on the village's side tomorrow to clear me but I very much doubt it. Goodbye.
Mon 19:50
Mon 19:51

P.S. Well played, Locke - you had a clever strategy with just that one BIG point where you messed up - but there are too many people on your bandwagon, so the villagers lose.
MrEko Mon 20:05

were did he mess up eloise??
Eloise Mon 20:05

With ignoring your comment about my claim.
Mon 20:05

By the way, why is your vote still on Walt?
Mon 20:06

Or is that somebody else?
Mon 20:06

I think it's you and Naomi whose votes are on a useless coven or swapped villager who is even more useless.
MrEko Mon 20:06

umm bcoz i wanted 2 try and balance around lockes lynch but then everyone changed
Eloise Mon 20:06

It's Boone's vote which is uselessly on Naomi.
Moderator Mon 20:07

MrEko votes to lynch Locke
Eloise Mon 20:07

I sort of wish the victory on Boone because he has kept a cool head around all this and played a very village-y part.
Mon 20:07

But I don't count on his support anymore.
Mon 20:10

Otherwise, I think Charlotte (whose face did not speak at all yesterday) is coven, probably swapped with a dead puppet.
Mon 20:11

Naomi is probably not as on the ball as Boone wants us to believe, with a useless vote on Walt.
MrEko Mon 20:11

i thought charlotte had been swapped 2 but i read bk and she kinda sounds the same as d2
Eloise Mon 20:11

Locke I think is wolf, because he knew nobody else would claim a role block.
Mon 20:12

MIB I don't know, but he seems to side with Locke a bit quickly. He sounds willing to discuss things though.
Mon 20:12

Sayid is village I'm sure; it's just that I have annoyed him for some reason.
Mon 20:13

Penelope is not involved enough to be worth counting on.
Sayid Mon 20:13

:/
Eloise Mon 20:13

Sun and yourself are the only ones outside Sayid that I have any trust in.
Mon 20:14

So good luck, but you are fighting a lost cause I fear.
Mon 20:16

Bye Sayid. Sorry for having annoyed you so much.
ManInBlack Mon 20:17

What do you think, Sayid?
Mon 20:20

I'd prefer rage, but this is kinda ok too... I don't think it's safe for me to change votes tho... Tz is messing with my brain...
MrEko Mon 20:20

thats the worst excuse ive ever heard lol
ManInBlack Mon 20:21

I'd love to elaborate on that, but it's a little meta... :3
Eloise Mon 20:22

Well, there I am, outing evils by letting them speak for themselves ;-)
ManInBlack Mon 20:23

With the deathrate in this village, I'd probably join the gy as well...
Eloise Mon 20:24

If only I'd been able to keep my mouth shut like Penelope or some other pretty vacuous face... I'll see you down there then, ManInBlack!
Mon 20:25

Might not offer you a drink though.
Mon 20:27

Anyway, I'm off for good now. Will play some music until after midnight, and then will ask Hurley and Desmond what on earth they were thinking, if anything at all.
Locke Mon 20:37

Farewell Eloise... you won't be missed
MrEko Mon 20:42

locke u sound way 2 smug
Eloise Mon 20:50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OvsVSWB4TI
Boone Mon 20:52

Protect me -_-
Eloise Mon 20:53

I will if you vote Locke and save my life.
Boone Mon 20:56

But then we don't lynch -_-
Mon 20:56

Fuck this is hard.
Locke Mon 20:58

Boone, no hard feelings, but I have to protect Sun...
ManInBlack Mon 20:58

Balance could be an option...
Boone Mon 20:58

Wtf why would you say that locke???
Locke Mon 20:58

She's a gd and we need her to bring light on Eloise's case and to prove me lit
Mon 20:59

Balance is not an option
ManInBlack Mon 20:59

Locke is equally sus.
Moderator Mon 20:59

Boone votes to lynch Locke
Moderator Mon 20:59

A new moon rises...
Boone Mon 20:59

No prot ever tells his next target wtf
ManInBlack Mon 20:59

Crap
Moderator Tue 09:00

The cold grip of darkness can only last so long...

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