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Desmond Sun 09:01

Libby was in my good books... its a shame she died
Sun 09:02

She seemed like one of the very few people who actually used their own mind and not followed the mob mentality
Sun 09:03

Alright before everyone arrives, ive got a statement to make
Sun 09:03

a long one...
Sun 09:03

so those who are not bothered may skip
ManInBlack Sun 09:03

All ears...
Moderator Sun 09:03

Eloise votes to lynch Desmond
Desmond Sun 09:04

wow
MrEko Sun 09:04

as...
Sun 09:04

owait
Desmond Sun 09:04

eloise... care to give me a chance?
Eloise Sun 09:04

Retaliating from yesterday.
Desmond Sun 09:04

i understand
Sun 09:04

ive got some explaining to do
Sun 09:04

if it doesnt change anything, ill still try n help as much as i can
Sun 09:05

okay so here goes, this
Eloise Sun 09:05

What else is new?
Desmond Sun 09:05

uhm.. ? do i have the floor?
MrEko Sun 09:05

yes get on with it
Desmond Sun 09:06

basically this is my story, ill be totally frank and hope the truth rings the way only truth can
Sun 09:06

i start the game, find my role as a villager
Sun 09:07

and a villager is always is at a disadvantage coz they are always so predictable
Sun 09:07

i thot id shake it up and be totally unpredictable
Sun 09:07

bcz that mght help me in the long run
Sun 09:07

think abt it, if im acting shady on PURPOSE
Sun 09:07

then evil wud stay off my back
Sun 09:08

and welcomes seers and witch hunters to check me
Sun 09:08

find me clean, and theyll know ONE person they can trust
Sun 09:08

and we wud team up and lead ourselves to victory
Sun 09:08

little did i know we wud lose our wh and have our seer purged!
Sun 09:08

(if our seer is actually purged)
Sun 09:09

and little did i knw, that ppl wud be as aggressive as to think ur a good lynch JST coz of the way i type
Eloise Sun 09:09

Well, I'm a villager and have managed to survive this far without the aid of parentheses.
Desmond Sun 09:09

i was going for a smeagle effect ya know
Eloise Sun 09:10

And funny you should mention you would welcome a seer's AND a witch hunter's check.
Desmond Sun 09:10

obv my tactic failed
Sun 09:10

i was trying out something new
Sun 09:10

dont tell me uve never made a mistake
Sun 09:10

YES I DO WELCOME THEM
Eloise Sun 09:10

If they had both been alive and / or functioning, that would have been a clear sign of a dire wolf.
Desmond Sun 09:10

BUT ITS TOO LATE
Sun 09:11

why wud a direwolf act shady?
MrEko Sun 09:11

2 get checked
Desmond Sun 09:11

theyd lay low
Eloise Sun 09:11

MrEko, I totally agree.
Desmond Sun 09:11

well im not direwolf
Sun 09:12

and i wanna redeem myself
Eloise Sun 09:12

No chance with me.
Desmond Sun 09:12

coz i understand i had used the worst tactic
MrEko Sun 09:13

eloise is rite and tho i kinda liked u yesterday ur admission sounds a bit ... prepared??
Desmond Sun 09:13

yes coz ive been thinking for a long time
Sun 09:13

i meant to do this ystrday
Sun 09:13

but RL got in the way
Sun 09:13

and have been waiting so long
MrEko Sun 09:14

so can we talk about ben
Eloise Sun 09:15

Please let's.
MrEko Sun 09:15

i wanna no y ppl think he got silenced yesterday
Eloise Sun 09:15

I don't think he did.
Desmond Sun 09:15

u mean he wants ppl to think harpy is alive? when maybe harpy is dead?
Eloise Sun 09:16

I think he wants people to think that he is not coven, because coven would not be silenced.
Sun 09:16

Even though he voted like a coven.
Sun 09:17

"What if both Walt and Hurley are innocent?"
ManInBlack Sun 09:17

So he pretends to be silenced...
Moderator Sun 09:17

MrEko votes to lynch Ben
Eloise Sun 09:17

Yes.
MrEko Sun 09:17

he gets my asv 2day!
Kate Sun 09:17

Hey everyone
Eloise Sun 09:17

Good morning.
MrEko Sun 09:17

o no eloise is now a bloodhound 2 :( :(
Kate Sun 09:18

Morning
Eloise Sun 09:18

I would love to do a wolf howl like you youngsters do so well...
Sun 09:18

But my voice has been a bit wheezy lately.
Desmond Sun 09:21

I didnt understand Charlie ystrday.. was anyone able to make anything of that?
Sun 09:22

btw, my typing style did work id say, ive come off so shady no vamp wud target me and wolves/coven wud see my existence as an advantage
Eloise Sun 09:22

What are your thoughts about him?
ManInBlack Sun 09:22

Well, he confessed...
MrEko Sun 09:22

i thought he might have been shrouded but i was wrong lol (an eloise was rite to tell me i was being dumb!)
Sun 09:22

seemed like the same thing that walt did tho make a rly bad defence and get all the votes
Desmond Sun 09:23

i just did something so much more terrible.. gt the villagers so conf****
MrEko Sun 09:23

conf*cked?
Eloise Sun 09:23

Desmond?
Desmond Sun 09:23

confused
ManInBlack Sun 09:23

U missed one *
Eloise Sun 09:23

Why don't you just say what you thought of Charlie?
Kate Sun 09:23

i think that whole story this morning was rather contrived
Desmond Sun 09:23

it felt like
Sun 09:23

he came out as vamp
Sun 09:24

realised that may break the game
Sun 09:24

make mod upset
Sun 09:24

so backtracked
Sun 09:24

and made it sound like he cud be anything..
Sun 09:24

i dont know..
Sun 09:24

but he definitely did sound like he admitted to being evil and thought he could help in the last minute.. srsly weird
Sayid Sun 09:25

Goodmrning
ManInBlack Sun 09:25

Good morning
Sayid Sun 09:25

How the wolves didnt killed you last night guys! You talk too mich :D
Desmond Sun 09:25

but u gotta admit, the () sort of caught on
Sayid Sun 09:25

Much*
Desmond Sun 09:28

is it normal that we have 2 kills again?
Sun 09:28

wolves would guarantee one kill per night
Sayid Sun 09:29

Mybe you and eloise are wolves ;)
Sun 09:29

2wolves who dont like each other :D
ManInBlack Sun 09:32

Usually evil teammates want to make it appear theyre in conflict just in case we pick sides.
Eloise Sun 09:32

Again, I wish I could do a successfully scary howl...
ManInBlack Sun 09:32

Is this what you're saying Sayid?
Desmond Sun 09:33

Soooo.. u guys DONT want me to revert to my () smeagle voice? i actually did feel safe in them..
ManInBlack Sun 09:34

Why don't we all howl? Let's call it a village Thanksgiving howl...
Kate Sun 09:35

I don't think most of us do Thanksgiving
ManInBlack Sun 09:35

(Or gobble, for the vegans)
Jin Sun 09:36

Good morning
Kate Sun 09:36

also how does replacing howl with gobble make it vegan :|
Sun 09:36

good morning
ManInBlack Sun 09:36

Well, I don't do Thanksgiving myself...
Sun 09:38

But this is a village, with witches and werewolves... Surely Thanksgiving is celebrated in such settings... Idk :p
Desmond Sun 09:39

Why wouldnt a reviver have revived Hurley already?
Jin Sun 09:39

I'd like to see the Sun in this dark, forsaken place
Desmond Sun 09:40

i dont think there was a danger of djin swapping right?
ManInBlack Sun 09:41

If it's a fresh dig, I think it should be safe.
Desmond Sun 09:41

but not anymore
Sun 09:41

i think Hurley expired now
Jin Sun 09:42

Des, who you think is the best lynch today?
Desmond Sun 09:42

coven MUST have swapped him last night..
ManInBlack Sun 09:42

Well, if we trust sun, then he's WH right?
MrEko Sun 09:42

hurley was not a completely safe revive but ye
Jin Sun 09:42

(MUST = only when there is Djinn, we don't know. Also could be dead, killed at night, for example)
Desmond Sun 09:42

best lynch can be decided after sun brings some new intel, no?
Jin Sun 09:42

But what's your thought right now? :)
Desmond Sun 09:43

thinking...
MrEko Sun 09:43

if he was swapped the same night sun dug him then it wouldve been bad to revive him
Desmond Sun 09:43

no that night, walt was swapped with juliet
Sun 09:43

im guessing..
MrEko Sun 09:44

ur guessing
Sun 09:44

exactly
Sun 09:44

we dont no
Jin Sun 09:44

Eko, you have no solid ideas either?
Desmond Sun 09:44

if there was no swap, walt would be dead right (this is if we take sayid's word)
MrEko Sun 09:45

jin i already mentioned my thought earlier
Sun 09:45

that its weird ben was silenced yesterday
Locke Sun 09:45

Ummm... quick summary?
Jin Sun 09:45

Eko wants Ben dead
Locke Sun 09:45

Reasons?
Desmond Sun 09:45

Honestly Ben seemed okay to me
Sun 09:45

but i could be wrong
MrEko Sun 09:45

locke i never said i want him dead
Sun 09:46

i just found it strange that he was silenced yesterday
Sun 09:46

jin enflames things 2 make other ppl look bad
Jin Sun 09:47

Oh, I thought you meant that. Never mind :)
Locke Sun 09:48

I missed yesterday because Irl stuff, and I am to lazy to read
Sun 09:48

So, what happened yesterday? :O And all those deaths
MrEko Sun 09:48

boone said charlie was vampire
Sun 09:48

charlie said he was stalker
Sun 09:48

charlie said he was wolf
Sun 09:49

charlie said he was vampire
Sun 09:49

charlie got lynched
Sun 09:49

boone said he got purged
Sun 09:49

eloise accused pretty much everyone in the village of being evil
Jin Sun 09:49

"jin enflames things 2 make other ppl look bad"
MrEko Sun 09:49

about 5 ppl accused me of being a puppet
Jin Sun 09:49

look at you, Eko
Desmond Sun 09:50

u put it so elegantly eko man
MrEko Sun 09:50

did i miss nething?
Desmond Sun 09:50

sun's find?
MrEko Sun 09:50

oyes!
Sun 09:50

sun said hurley was witchhunter
Sun 09:50

(+++ sun said she was gravedigger)
Sun 09:50

(in case that wasnt obvious)
Sun 09:51

jin i report facts do u disagree with nething i said??
Jin Sun 09:51

I'm inclined to lynch either Desmond or Eko, but it would be even better to lynch the person that will make both Desmond and Eko die a silent, simultaneous death, if you get my point :)
MrEko Sun 09:52

u no i think i could prove im not a puppet
Jin Sun 09:52

Don't talk to me about reporting facts if it's clear that there's a personal bias in how you report facts, and also in choosing which data you select for your summary
MrEko Sun 09:52

but im not gonna XD
Moderator Sun 09:52

Jin votes to lynch Desmond
Jin Sun 09:52

meh
Desmond Sun 09:53

I dont know what to say
Sun 09:53

i did fuck up
Sun 09:53

i looked back at myself
Jin Sun 09:53

if you don't know what to say, you can be silent :)
Desmond Sun 09:53

i was suspicious as fuck
Sun 09:53

but i know im village
Sun 09:53

thats why i dont wanna be silent
Sun 09:53

i wanna do what i can
MrEko Sun 09:53

mb we should spam "im not a puppet" into chat at the same time desmond
Sun 09:53

that totally proves it rite?
Desmond Sun 09:54

noo...
Jin Sun 09:54

let's not do that
Desmond Sun 09:54

the famous puppet test
Ben Sun 09:54

Hey, u think Jin's suspicious? @des and @mreko
Sun 09:54

Will vote later (due to irl)
MrEko Sun 09:54

ben suspicious yes but im not actually convinced hes evil
Desmond Sun 09:54

hey Ben, honestly there are a few ppl id like to lynch, i jst didnt wanna voice em
MrEko Sun 09:54

he might just be misguided
Jin Sun 09:55

Hey Ben :)
MrEko Sun 09:55

i really dk y every1 thinks im a puppet tho :(
Ben Sun 09:55

Yes sir, pls tell me when u are comfortable voicing them
Jin Sun 09:55

What's up, Ben?
Sun 09:55

What's on your mind?
MrEko Sun 09:56

ben y do u think u got silenced yesterday??
Desmond Sun 09:59

ben, no answer?
Sun 10:00

while we wait for Ben..
Sun 10:00

see this is how i saw everything... day one, some people were so ready to jump on Boone's suggestion. and some wanted to think outside of the box. so i made two lists. those that used their thinking skills - i put them in my good list. and those that were blood thirsty - i put them in my suspicious list. and i think Everyone by now agrees that Boone choosing someone who was shrouded (especially when others came up guessing it beforehand, and very conveniently laying a second lynch) was no coincidence. there is a link or a correlation at least.
Jin Sun 10:00

"those that used their thinking skills"
Sun 10:00

You're one condescending bastard
Desmond Sun 10:00

how so?
Jin Sun 10:01

not going to bother, it's only a distraction from the game
Sun 10:01

never mind me, continue
Sun 10:01

do your little thing
Desmond Sun 10:02

Jin u were in my suspicious list o.o
Jin Sun 10:02

of course, go ahead
Desmond Sun 10:02

but so was Sun, and she turned out GD
Sun 10:02

i dont see why she wud lie abt that
Sun 10:03

and Charlie was in my good list - and he turned evil
Sun 10:03

so Yes, i can be wrong
Sun 10:04

thats why i wudnt like to voice my suspicions, sometimes its only innocent villagers being stupid
Sun 10:04

jst like myself
Sun 10:04

my tactic was successful in its original intent, but had scary dangerous drawbacks
Sun 10:04

1) made it super easy for evil to frame me
Sun 10:05

2) made it super difficult for village to find coven
Sun 10:06

Right now, i feel very comfortable (notice i didnt say trust) abt Lock
Sun 10:06

and Libby was another, but she died
Sun 10:06

i hate that she died
Sun 10:07

and some people who im SO NOT comfortable, who look like their overflowing with evil are: Eloise, Jin, MiB,
Sun 10:11

and Boone, he's so obvious evil, but he managed to play so well, that he escaped scrutiny. damn
Sun 10:12

Ben, wanna tell us why you think u were silenced yesterday?
Sayid Sun 10:14

Do you know what is interesting for me?
Sun 10:14

Boon said he is seer
Sun 10:14

And he is still alive
Sun 10:14

The wolves cant kill each other
MrEko Sun 10:14

y kill him if he got purged?
Eloise Sun 10:15

^
Sayid Sun 10:15

How you belive him
Jin Sun 10:15

Eloise, hi :)
Sayid Sun 10:15

You guys are so simple
Eloise Sun 10:15

I think there is a different potential problem with Boone.
Sayid Sun 10:15

You belive every one
Jin Sun 10:16

You think maybe we can lynch Desmond through Sayid, Eloise? :)
Eloise Sun 10:16

Are you saying Sayid is PM?
Jin Sun 10:16

I'm thinking it's possible
Sayid Sun 10:16

:| im just a villgr right now if lynching me make you happy , so do it :D
Eloise Sun 10:16

I am now thinking Desmond is of a different faction.
Desmond Sun 10:17

I really dont see why Sayid would lie abt being Militia
Eloise Sun 10:17

^
Jin Sun 10:17

True
Desmond Sun 10:17

ofc, defending him doesnt help our case.. but im jst telling u what i think
Eloise Sun 10:17

We all know Walt got killed after escaping the lynch, even though I feel sorry for the coven that the system messed up their cover.
Jin Sun 10:17

Okay, my mind's a bit foggy this morning, I probably interpret things wrong
Eloise Sun 10:17

So somebody must have shot him.
Sun 10:18

Sayid did not get a counter claim.
Sun 10:18

But.
Sun 10:18

Desmond I think is DW.
Sun 10:18

And Libby may well have been a wolf, and Richard huntsman.
Jin Sun 10:18

I had him as Puppy, but okay
Sayid Sun 10:18

I dont like this game becous ppl belive the wolves and support them! And if me or someone else want to tell them open your eyes, ppl said ok your evil also :|
Desmond Sun 10:18

im neither
Sun 10:18

damnit
Eloise Sun 10:19

I thank Richard for whoever he protected last night.
Jin Sun 10:19

@Eloise: why not simply 2 kills? Wolf + vamp?
Desmond Sun 10:19

He wasnt HM
Eloise Sun 10:19

Vamp died last night.
Ben Sun 10:19

Sorry @des, was a little busy just now. I think I got silenced was because I found Boone suspicious the day before I was silenced, and on the day itself,I wanted to vote for Boone (based on my suspicion)
Jin Sun 10:19

I think we may have 2 vamps? Or would that be too much?
Ben Sun 10:20

Hope that clears a little? Sorry, not very experienced, my play. Need enlightenment still
Desmond Sun 10:20

Okay, guys, i am villager
Sun 10:20

i am villager
Sun 10:20

i REALLY TRULY AM villager
Eloise Sun 10:21

Methinks the lady doth protest too much.
Jin Sun 10:21

ooooh, Desmond, but that helps so much. You just have to use capital letter
Sun 10:21

letters*
Sun 10:21

and then your words are so much more believable
Desmond Sun 10:21

i may have long hair, but u dont see the beard?
Sayid Sun 10:21

You are soo cute desmon:D
Desmond Sun 10:21

*slaps forehead*
Eloise Sun 10:22

Libby and Desmond: wolves. Ben, Walt en probably MrEko: coven, although the latter sounds much more village-like today.
Desmond Sun 10:22

Eloise, ur voice has been poison, every since Day 1, u ONLY have been causing destruction
Sun 10:23

i havnt seen any constructive ideas from you
Sun 10:23

okay ill stop
Jin Sun 10:23

Thank you
Desmond Sun 10:23

attacking is not gonna help anyone
Eloise Sun 10:23

I think we are doing fairly well to be honest, except from lynching a clueless witch hunter.
Desmond Sun 10:23

if by "we' u mean ur own private evil faction, then yes
Sayid Sun 10:24

:D
Desmond Sun 10:24

i SO wnna retreat to my () right now
Eloise Sun 10:25

I would like to hear from Penelope. Is she here at all?
Locke Sun 10:25

Oh, and what about me guys? Noone wanted to speculate about what I am... I might be evil for all you know
Desmond Sun 10:26

I think i know what you are Locke
Locke Sun 10:26

Oh? Do you now?
Sun 10:26

Share that with us, please
Desmond Sun 10:26

yes, if im not mistaken
Sun 10:26

id technically be ur brother
Sun 10:26

no, ofc i wudnt say it. wouldnt be good for u
Sun 10:27

theyd kill u instantly at night
Locke Sun 10:27

Maybe, maybe not
Sayid Sun 10:28

Locke i love the color of your eyes
Sun 10:28

Like the ocean (\/)
Locke Sun 10:29

Also... I have not been following this quite carefully as I usually do, but I have to agree with Desmond that Eloise does seam a bit poisonous
Sayid Sun 10:31

Hey this game is effective in real life, i doubt everyone :D
Sun 10:31

Bam bam
Sun 10:32

Its boring
Sun 10:32

Lalalalala
Locke Sun 10:32

So... Hurley was a wh... and Walt was a coven who did a good play with luring us to create 2 piles of votes and end up lynching hurley....
Sun 10:32

And Boone was the one who told us that Walt was coven?
Sun 10:32

And also that Charlie was a vamp?
Desmond Sun 10:32

btw Naomi, u mentioned that i voted for Hurley, i want to clarify, that I removed my vote. I didnt think what we had on Hurley was substantial enough for a lynch, he was one of the most reasonable voices that day
Locke Sun 10:33

And then he got purged?
Sun 10:33

Alright so... he was either a seer or bh, there's no doubt in that...
Sun 10:33

The question is... what is he now?
Desmond Sun 10:33

if he was originally BH, he wud be SS or normal werewolf now
Sun 10:34

if he was originally Seer, he could be stalker/lycan/sleepwalker/ and something else
Sun 10:34

he claimed vanilla
Locke Sun 10:34

Why? Alch purge can make him a bh again if I am correct?
Desmond Sun 10:34

no
Locke Sun 10:35

Isn't it random?
Desmond Sun 10:35

The given role depends on the target's faction. If the target is a member of the village, a random role is selected from: Villager, Lycan, Sleepwalker, Insomniac, Stalker. If the target is a member of the Wolfpack, the target will become a Werewolf or Shapeshifter.
Sun 10:35

from h2p
Locke Sun 10:36

Oh
Sun 10:36

Okay, thank you
Desmond Sun 10:36

if he was BH and not purged - and he was found visiting - he cud easily clear it up by saying he must sleepwalker now
Sun 10:36

damn, boone, played SUPER well
Eloise Sun 10:37

I think we need to hear from Boone what his new role is. Theoretically he could have been purged into a stalker.
Desmond Sun 10:37

he claimed vanilla
Boone Sun 10:37

I told you yesterday.
Locke Sun 10:37

I am glad that I am at least a bit helpful
Boone Sun 10:37

Hello btw.
Desmond Sun 10:38

Hey there superstar
Eloise Sun 10:38

Good morning.
Boone Sun 10:38

Desmond how can you say that me finding walt and walt getting shrouded is no coincidence?
Sun 10:38

I think he messed up Day 1 and coven saw it the same, so they shrouded him.
Desmond Sun 10:38

is that rhetorical?
Sun 10:39

really? i didnt see any mess ups on day 1. ill go check it
Eloise Sun 10:39

He didn't.
Boone Sun 10:39

I was fking against hurley as second option.
Eloise Sun 10:39

He said Mmm.
Sun 10:39

So was I.
Sun 10:39

But for the wrong reasons.
Boone Sun 10:39

Yeah but I think he was the only coven speaking that day.
Eloise Sun 10:39

I thought Hurley was a puppet.
Boone Sun 10:39

So who would you shroud that day?
Locke Sun 10:39

Where is sun?
Eloise Sun 10:40

^
Boone Sun 10:40

If you got a team and ONE person spoke day 1, who would you shroud in such a big game?
Eloise Sun 10:40

Fine, it doesn't matter really.
Jin Sun 10:40

I hear Bill Withers, signing softly in the background
Desmond Sun 10:40

wait it does
Sun 10:40

i find that interesting
Boone Sun 10:41

It kinda does because Desmond presents it as a matter of fact that this was "no coincidence" which annoys me.
Sun 10:42

I think by now we all agree that Walt day 2 was EVIL. I never suggested the second hurley option, while I agree he kinda has himself to blame to be second option that day due to some really odd play.
Desmond Sun 10:43

I didnt see anything that would justify putting him as second lynch.
Sun 10:43

and why would he out himself on Day 2
Boone Sun 10:44

I think my purge was a relaxation play by walt. He is probably the person that purged me.
Desmond Sun 10:44

on a possible very unlikely lynch
Boone Sun 10:44

*retaliation
Sun 10:44

not relaxation... lol
Desmond Sun 10:44

Boone
Boone Sun 10:44

He defended Walt for some very odd reason.
Sun 10:44

even after walt messed up his whole claim
Desmond Sun 10:45

yes, bcz everyone was so READY to believe you
Boone Sun 10:45

nothing of walt saying made any sense, but hurley was still voting everyone else.
Desmond Sun 10:45

wouldnt even YOU as a seer, not detest how easy it was to claim seer?
Boone Sun 10:45

??
Desmond Sun 10:46

Someone comes out as Seer on Day 2, the WHOLE village is super ready to take his word
Sun 10:46

doesnt that upset you?
Boone Sun 10:46

.. why should it?
Desmond Sun 10:47

because then being believed to be seer is about who jumps out saying first?
Boone Sun 10:47

OK Desmond, what would you think of me, if Walt got lynched that day?
Jin Sun 10:48

well, having no counter-claims also helps
Desmond Sun 10:48

if i was seer, and boone came out claiming seer on day 2, i wudnt out myself
ManInBlack Sun 10:48

Actually, I'm with Des with that... But only on an emotional level
Desmond Sun 10:48

bcz thts what a fake-seer's intent is anyways right?
Boone Sun 10:48

Like, if everything that day went smoothly, I claim seer, I find a coven after giving every other role enough time to claim a better lynch. We lynch Walt, Sun says walt was coven and we happly live ever after?
Sun 10:49

Would you think different of me, or the same?
Sun 10:49

I'm just not getting what your problem with my claim is.
Sun 10:50

Is it day 2?
Sun 10:50

or my haircut?
Desmond Sun 10:50

if it was ystrday, id think different, but today, i think id think the same..
Boone Sun 10:51

And I think it's kinda false to say that village was ready to jump on my suggestions. Lots of people wanted to wait until walt shows up bla bla. "Boone could be puppet bla bla"
Desmond Sun 10:51

bcz i get it. maybe ur a player who is tired of boring first days (kinda like today), got a hit, and said fuck it, might as well come out now while prots are most likely alive
Boone Sun 10:52

I just think hoarding intel is BAD.
Desmond Sun 10:52

u were the one complaining abt asvs right? on day 2
Boone Sun 10:53

Yeah I got purged so what. I found a vamp and a coven before that. This is more than more seers find before they die unclaimed.
Sun 10:53

-more
Sun 10:53

No
Sun 10:54

I just said eko to vote walt, since he asv'ed just before my claim.
Desmond Sun 10:55

Ok, i would propose Eloise as a good lynch. ill call it as i see it. this will probably get me lynched tonight, as her faction members will gang up on me
Sun 10:55

so be it
Sun 10:55

she is toxic
Sun 10:55

boone, might be evil, but speaks reason
Sun 10:55

but eloise, im scared of her
Sun 10:55

shez weird
Sun 10:56

and if DO get lynched today
Sun 10:56

ill make sure to role claim before it
ManInBlack Sun 10:56

Yes, you do look scared.
Desmond Sun 10:56

so noone gets any ideas to take my role
Boone Sun 10:56

I thought you claimed villager?
Walt Sun 10:56

Hey
Desmond Sun 10:56

and the village can have the best possible intel
Sun 10:56

yes but im special role
Boone Sun 10:57

then you don't claim villager -_-
Moderator Sun 10:57

Desmond votes to lynch Eloise
Desmond Sun 10:57

Wow walt, care to join?
Sun 10:57

we have been very interested in you
ManInBlack Sun 10:57

Are you like, Intel Desmond?
Sun 10:57

Oh hey, Walt.
Desmond Sun 10:58

i will make my role clearer if i see theres a great chance ill be lynched
Boone Sun 10:58

I need to vote now, else I forget it like yesterday (I actually thought I voted grml)
Desmond Sun 10:58

why make my chance riskier now?
Moderator Sun 10:58

Boone votes to lynch Mikhail
Moderator Sun 10:58

ManInBlack votes to lynch Sun
Boone Sun 10:58

why sun?
ManInBlack Sun 10:58

Where is sun?
Boone Sun 10:59

Don't know, it's cloudy outside. Can't see the Sun
Walt Sun 10:59

Sorry about yesterday. Didnt have time to read it all .. i logged in in a hurry yesterday to vote so i didnt get smited then got really surprised cz i was juliet and i am now walt
Desmond Sun 10:59

walt, i dont wanna lead you on, but we r all expecting you to say something abt what happened to you
Sun 10:59

okay u said it
Sun 11:00

being inactive makes u very popular among coven djin swappings u know
Sun 11:00

but u cud be coven anyhoo
Boone Sun 11:01

I think it's pretty smart to swap a coven into someone n2 who hasn't spoken. The other person has no chance to prove the swap by typing etc.
Sun Sun 11:02

Good news, everyone.
Jin Sun 11:02

I think Walt's probably not coven today, since coven knew now-Walt was going to be looked at
Sun 11:02

SUUUNNN <3
Desmond Sun 11:02

Boone Sun 10:57 then you don't claim villager -_- ---- boone, i thought saying vanilla would mean vanilla, saying villager would mean any villager role including vanilla
Sun Sun 11:02

Juliet was a Shaman
ManInBlack Sun 11:02

Here comes the Sun! ?
MrEko Sun 11:02

i have a question
Boone Sun 11:03

Booya. Told ya!
Jin Sun 11:03

=D
MrEko Sun 11:03

y would coven purge seer?
Sun 11:03

i mean
ManInBlack Sun 11:03

Ding ding ding
Boone Sun 11:03

you serious eko?
MrEko Sun 11:03

yes let me explain
Boone Sun 11:03

WHY WOULD YOU PURGE THE MOST DANGEROUS ROLE NEXT TO WH
MrEko Sun 11:03

this game has wolves and vampires and coven
Jin Sun 11:04

@Eko: because the Seer gets their Shammies lynched
Sun Sun 11:04

*waves at Jin*
MrEko Sun 11:04

all the killing roles h8 seer as much as coven
Desmond Sun 11:04

can we see what eko wants to say before be bombard him with replies?
MrEko Sun 11:04

y wouldnt coven just let a killing role take out the seer 4 them?
ManInBlack Sun 11:04

Protexn
MrEko Sun 11:04

and save alchemist 4 someone like reviver or witchhunter
Sun 11:05

jin but seer didnt "get their shammies lynched" did he
Jin Sun 11:05

Eko, that's honestly a good point
Boone Sun 11:05

It's not
Sun 11:05

it's BS.
Jin Sun 11:05

But I think it can be explained
Boone Sun 11:05

First off:
Jin Sun 11:05

Oh, okay
Desmond Sun 11:05

hheeeh
Boone Sun 11:06

1) You don't go after a seer n2 except with a witch probably, but you'll need the witch later for a revive so don't risk it.
Sun 11:06

2) There's a chance that Walt was Alchemist, he blew his load and then re-rolled himself.
ManInBlack Sun 11:07

Hmm, is purge a seen visit?
Boone Sun 11:07

3) Every evil relying on an other evil to kill something normally ends in nobody getting killed at all.
MrEko Sun 11:07

yes
Jin Sun 11:07

I thought of number 2 as the most probable scenario myself
Boone Sun 11:07

4) death confirms me
Desmond Sun 11:07

we know we can rule out number 2 now though
Jin Sun 11:07

Why, des?
MrEko Sun 11:08

bcoz sun said walt-now-juliet was shaman
Desmond Sun 11:08

bcz he wasnt alchemisy
Sun 11:08

he was shaman
Boone Sun 11:08

I mention this in 2)
Jin Sun 11:08

they transmuted the night they were killed, the transmute still happens
MrEko Sun 11:08

otru
Desmond Sun 11:08

?
MrEko Sun 11:08

thats fair
Boone Sun 11:08

It's actually how you want to play alchemist.
Sun 11:08

everything else is bad
ManInBlack Sun 11:08

Oh yeah!
Boone Sun 11:08

just saying.
Sun 11:09

Walt had nothing to lose
MrEko Sun 11:09

ok boone i think u answered my question well enuff
Desmond Sun 11:09

yeah he is good at answering questions.. well played
ManInBlack Sun 11:10

^
Desmond Sun 11:10

we would be so effed if he was evil
MrEko Sun 11:10

i still wunder if coven would risk it wen boone could have been bloodhound but thats a different questions rly
Boone Sun 11:10

worst case for coven is stalker
Sun 11:11

but it's still no seer.
Desmond Sun 11:11

Jin, may i suggest you remove your vote?
Jin Sun 11:12

You may
ManInBlack Sun 11:12

Jin, you bully
Desmond Sun 11:12

Please remove your vote, i believe i may be of service to this village
Jin Sun 11:12

Get on with it and claim, then
Desmond Sun 11:13

no
Sun 11:13

not yet
Jin Sun 11:13

Okay, so then I will 'not yet' remove my vote as well
Desmond Sun 11:13

half the village hasnt voiced their opinion
Sun 11:13

if i could be saved, why would i out myself. outing isnt always beneficial to the village
Sun 11:14

fair enough
Sun 11:14

ull reconsider after my claim
MrEko Sun 11:14

desmond didnt u claim villager this morning??
Locke Sun 11:14

Now we will see if you truly are my brother
Sun Sun 11:14

Opinion: I trust Boone is lit, and Jin and Eloise seem so aswell. Desmond, you are highly suspicous, but I am actually inclined to think you are vilage.
Desmond Sun 11:14

doesnt villager mean any good role?
Sun 11:15

i thought vanilla means the actual 'villager'
Jin Sun 11:15

It's ambiguous
ManInBlack Sun 11:15

U usually drop the r
Jin Sun 11:15

Because: why would anyone claim villager?
ManInBlack Sun 11:15

As in village
Jin Sun 11:15

Aren't we all 'members of the village'?
Desmond Sun 11:15

i didnt know it cud be taken so ambiguously
Sun 11:15

what should i have said?
MrEko Sun 11:15

jin bcoz of his "admission" it seemed like he was justifying his behaviour by saying he wasnt a special role
Jin Sun 11:16

(as in: it's useless to claim you're non-evil because that's the only thing you're going to say in this game, unless you're on the chopping block)
MrEko Sun 11:16

mb i misinterpreted it
Desmond Sun 11:16

I'm not evil
Sun 11:16

there
MrEko Sun 11:16

said every evil ever
Sun 11:16

lol
Jin Sun 11:16

yeah, which is a pretty useless statement
Sun Sun 11:16

*prepares chopping block*
Desmond Sun 11:16

i always think theres a difference btwn those that insist and those that stay neutral
Jin Sun 11:17

I think that people who say they're non-evil with capital letters are usually more trustworthy than people who say it in non-capitals. Also repetition helps to make you trustworthy. So Desmond is totally fine.
Desmond Sun 11:18

sarcasm at its finest
Sun 11:18

take a picture people
Jin Sun 11:18

:)
Desmond Sun 11:18

tsk tsk
Penelope Sun 11:18

Hi
Sun 11:19

:)
Desmond Sun 11:19

fresh voice
Sun Sun 11:19

I know he is suspicous, but I think Desmond is more likley village than evil.
Penelope Sun 11:19

Let me try saying I am non evil in capital letters and repeat it
Jin Sun 11:19

:D
Penelope Sun 11:19

I AM NON EVIL
Boone Sun 11:19

for one minute please
Penelope Sun 11:19

Haha
Desmond Sun 11:19

Penny, u spent years searching for me, would u say im to be given a chance?
Penelope Sun 11:19

what?
Sun 11:19

what spent years searching for you
Desmond Sun 11:19

sorry role play
MrEko Sun 11:19

spoilers
Penelope Sun 11:19

...
Desmond Sun 11:19

ignore
Sun 11:20

jst know, we were lovers
Penelope Sun 11:20

is this related to the theme of this game?
Desmond Sun 11:20

thats all
Sun 11:20

luuuuveeerrrss
Penelope Sun 11:20

...
Desmond Sun 11:20

no really ignore that
Boone Sun 11:20

You totally didn't creep her out desmond.
Sun Sun 11:20

Me & Jin are a far better couple.
Penelope Sun 11:20

...
Jin Sun 11:20

Anyway, Penelope
Penelope Sun 11:20

wuut
Jin Sun 11:21

Please share your thoughts on the game :)
Penelope Sun 11:21

Hmm
Desmond Sun 11:21

Penelope it was related to the theme
Jin Sun 11:21

(AGREED, SUN!)
Desmond Sun 11:21

so u may ignore
Penelope Sun 11:21

Wait let me read the things in day 2 and 3
MrEko Sun 11:21

u no lost is kinda like the original got
Sun 11:21

they killed off main characters before it was cool
Penelope Sun 11:21

and today's stuff
MrEko Sun 11:22

sun y did u dig juliet and not charlie
Boone Sun 11:22

He confessed?
Desmond Sun 11:22

i think coz eloise suggested it ystrday
MrEko Sun 11:23

but it would be gud 2 no what kind of vampire we r dealing wiv
Sun 11:23

shud we expect a mark??
Sun Sun 11:24

Perhaps, but I felt it wasn't important enough, Eko.
Sun 11:24

Since he already kinda confessed.
MrEko Sun 11:24

ok
Sun 11:25

i disagree but i seem to disagree with most ppl this game so whats new
Moderator Sun 11:26

Sayid votes to lynch Charlotte
Moderator Sun 11:26

Sayid votes to lynch Naomi
Sun Sun 11:26

My suspicions: Ben, Mikhail, The Silent Ones
MrEko Sun 11:27

would u attach alignment speculations to that sun
Sayid Sun 11:28

\(^_^)/
Desmond Sun 11:28

(my () feel like warm blankets yet they made me quit it. *cries a river*)
Sun Sun 11:29

Not really Eko, Coven/Wolf. Could be either in my opinion.
Sun 11:29

*steals all of Desmond's ()*
Desmond Sun 11:30

If we attribute extra nightly kills to Vamps, then we get at least one evil eradicated right?
MrEko Sun 11:30

so look about charlie something is bugging me
Sun 11:30

no desmond
Sun 11:30

listen
Sun 11:31

charlie implied he knew jack was protector bcoz he tried to kill him n1 and failed
Sun 11:31

but
Desmond Sun 11:31

*ears sharpened*
MrEko Sun 11:31

then y did we get 2 kills?
Sun Sun 11:32

AW?
Sun 11:32

Witch?
MrEko Sun 11:32

so maybe charlie was lying about that (reasonable solution rite?)
Desmond Sun 11:32

I held the idea there would be at least 2 vamps?
Sun 11:33

but lets say theres only 1 vamp, then how cud we answer eko's question, (other than AW)
MrEko Sun 11:33

so if he did go for jack n1 y not recruit him n2
Desmond Sun 11:33

bcz jack was utter suspicious by then?
MrEko Sun 11:33

thats a vampire friendly way of removing the prot
Sun 11:34

basically i think charlie was full of crap and he wanted us to think he didnt recruit wen rly he did
Desmond Sun 11:36

at least my shady typing made me fam-safe
Sun 11:36

do u guys seee why i adopted that stupid tactic now?
MrEko Sun 11:37

eloise will say im just trying 2 b disruptive lol but im serious i think vamp recruited
Desmond Sun 11:37

he seemed a bit cheerful on his way out.. so you might be right
Sun 11:38

I mean he was somewhat more smug than sore
Sun 11:38

i could be wrong
Penelope Sun 11:51

Hi
Sun 11:53

Um
ManInBlack Sun 11:54

You go first
Sun 11:54

Or u want me to go first?
Penelope Sun 11:56

Well
Sun 11:56

You mean my opinion on who to lynch?
ManInBlack Sun 11:57

Yeah.
Penelope Sun 11:58

I'm not so sure now. I believe Boone for around 50~60% now...seer being purged is natural right. I think if there aren't any obvious fake intel roles we should lynch one of the vanillas that's more suspicious than others...I'm not sure who I'm gonna vote for yet anyway
MrEko Sun 11:59

i thought u 2 might b revealing that ur masons
Penelope Sun 11:59

wut
Sun 12:00

revealing wut??
MrEko Sun 12:00

nevermind
Penelope Sun 12:00

...
Sun 12:00

K
Sun 12:01

h
Sun 12:01

"Good morning." Okay, now I said good morning, which means that I am a bloodhound and you can lynch me! No need to worry about who to lynch!
Sun 12:02

Na it's actually good night
Sun 12:02

...
MrEko Sun 12:03

who is ur biggest evil suspect rite now penelope?
Penelope Sun 12:03

well
Sun 12:04

let me think and reread....?
MrEko Sun 12:04

ok
Sun 12:04

thinking is gud
Penelope Sun 12:04

Btw, who claimed vanilla???
Sun 12:05

There certainly are real vanillas, but now I suppose vanilla claims are weaker than other claims...
MrEko Sun 12:05

idk i thought desmond and eloise but apparently i misunderstood
Sun 12:06

+++ boone i guess
Penelope Sun 12:08

Boone was once seer (at least he claimed to be) and then purged into vanilla
MrEko Sun 12:09

yes
Penelope Sun 12:09

and aren't desmond and eloise vanillas???
Sun 12:09

did I misunderstand sth
MrEko Sun 12:10

<Desmond> [Sun 11:14] doesnt villager mean any good role? [Sun 11:15] i thought vanilla means the actual 'villager'
Penelope Sun 12:10

oooo
Sun 12:10

:P
MrEko Sun 12:11

rite?
ManInBlack Sun 12:11

I kinda trust Desmond, tho.
MrEko Sun 12:12

y?
Sun 12:12

u think he sounded sincere??
ManInBlack Sun 12:13

I actually do.
MrEko Sun 12:13

ok
Sun 12:13

i thought it sounded a bit calculated but that doesnt mean hes lying
Penelope Sun 12:14

Did Desmond claim anything?
ManInBlack Sun 12:14

He's 70% villagey to me.
MrEko Sun 12:14

not yet
Sun 12:15

(afaik)
ManInBlack Sun 12:15

It should change depending on his claim.
Penelope Sun 12:15

Hmm
ManInBlack Sun 12:17

I just want to point out that in an all-factions battle Royale, a vanilla claim is really suspicious...
Penelope Sun 12:18

Yeah ik
Sun 12:19

too many evils
ManInBlack Sun 12:19

In this type of setup, for villagers to stand a chance, they should be armed with something.
Penelope Sun 12:20

XD
ManInBlack Sun 12:21

That is why it also kinda make sense for Des to not reveal his role. He could be useful.
Penelope Sun 12:22

Hmm
Sun 12:22

Have you claimed?
ManInBlack Sun 12:22

Nope. I have not.
MrEko Sun 12:22

tbh not many ppl claimed yet
Penelope Sun 12:26

QWQ
Sun 12:26

ManInBlack...saw a book named woman in black lol
ManInBlack Sun 12:27

(is that an emoji)
Sun 12:28

I saw a MOVIE titled Men in Black
Penelope Sun 12:28

Yes, it is
Sun 12:28

Haha
Sun 12:28

Seen the word "ManInBlack" in multiple novels
Sun 12:29

the character "ManInBlack" also appeared in multiple books I have read
Sun 12:29

You're famous
Sun 12:32

:)
ManInBlack Sun 12:34

Really? Hmm... Man in Black? Is that a code or something?
Sun 12:34

A lore?
Sun 12:34

:p
Ben Sun 12:41

Suspecting Jin and Sun.. why so fast on forcing out info from does when he's not comfie and sharing his role?
Penelope Sun 12:57

Oh wait, I guess I'll do an ASV just in case I forget about voting and get smitted...don't wanna be smitted yet :)
Moderator Sun 12:57

Penelope votes to lynch Locke
Penelope Sun 12:57

went for random zero
Moderator Sun 13:06

Ben votes to lynch Jin
Desmond Sun 14:30

Okay im checking in. Im still at 2.
Sun 14:31

Should i come out then..
Sun 14:32

Btw, if u lot decide im worth the risk of lynching, at least lynch me in a useful way.
Sun 14:32

Such as: to check for puppets.
Sun 14:33

If votes stay the same, and i DO get lynched, then u can be rest assured Jin & El (no matter how evil i think they are) are not puppets
Sun 14:34

Or push jin to change votes with whoever u wanna clear as a puppet. Like mr eko
Sun 14:35

Js...
Sun 14:37

Ill wait once more.
Sun 14:37

Brb
Locke Sun 14:43

Now I am really lost
Moderator Sun 14:43

Sayid votes to lynch Boone
Locke Sun 14:45

Okay... I have 2 questions:
Sun 14:45

1) Boone... How useful you think you can be now that you're purged?
Sun 14:46

2) Desmond... more less the same question... How useful you think your role could be to the village...
Sun 14:46

And why is it that you did not reveal any intel now that we're in d4
Sun 14:47

If you had a role, you'd have 3 nights to do something and bring us intel
Eloise Sun 14:51

As for not revealing his role, I think that is only prudent with coven around.
Sun 14:52

We haven't had any stalker or harlot claims so far.
Desmond Sun 14:52

el wil u remove ur vote?
Eloise Sun 14:53

Presumably they didn't see anything worth sharing.
Desmond Sun 14:55

And nobody will balance... ?
Eloise Sun 14:55

What does make Desmond suspicious in my eyes though is his refusal to see that Walt was lying, and choosing to lynch Boone without anything more substantial than "It's weird for a seer to come out on D2".
Desmond Sun 14:56

Poison..
Eloise Sun 14:56

Then there were the unnecessary parentheses, and the final straw was the statement that he would invite a seer check and a WH check.
Sun 14:57

Then he stuck up for Libby, whose voting behaviour was also really suspicious on D2.
Sun 14:57

I think if a GD were to dig Libby, they would find a wolf.
Desmond Sun 14:57

i believed walt was good lynch from day 2. I was only skeptical abt Boone and cud belive he is lit today
Eloise Sun 14:57

Which would automatically give them Richard's role.
Desmond Sun 14:58

Me and libby have no connection..
Sun 15:07

Im a huntsman
Sun 15:08

there's my role
Sun 15:10

If a hunstman comes out, very unlikely they can be of any use..
Locke Sun 15:16

Well... if protector is still with us, at least you'll live another night...
Sun 15:17

But... the question is... who would be worth protecting on your end...
Sun 15:17

Do not say it though
Desmond Sun 15:17

I do have someone in mind
Sun 15:18

but unlikely ill be balanced..
Locke Sun 15:18

I hope you are thinking the same as I am atm
Moderator Sun 15:18

Locke votes to lynch Eloise
Desmond Sun 15:18

the village seems asleep
Sun 15:18

oh.. hey thanks locke..
Locke Sun 15:19

I did not do it for you though... do not flatter yourself...
Sun 15:19

I did it only because I agree with you that Eloise is poisonous...
Sun 15:20

And yes, to give you a chance to prove yourself... I just don't know how that's gonna work...
Desmond Sun 15:21

shit, i wish i cud telepathy rght now.. so much i wanna say but will go badly if i do
Sun 15:23

Eko, im rereading Charlie, and ur right, checking him has so much precedence over checking Juliet
Sun 15:25

He's practically saying he was wolf, and if he wasnt lying abt that, so many other questions would be answered.
Sun 15:28

Locke id like ur thoughts on the things Charlie stated
Sun 15:28

the important bits start out at 11:27
Sun 15:29

but keep reading on..
Moderator Sun 15:32

MrEko votes to lynch Mikhail
MrEko Sun 15:32

just in case of puppets etc
Moderator Sun 15:34

Sun votes to lynch Ben
Desmond Sun 15:34

that would make me and/or locke puppets..
Sun 15:34

isnt that worth fnding out eko?
Sun Sun 15:34

Personally, Ben is my main suspect.
MrEko Sun 15:35

desmond is finding a puppet worth losing a huntsman iyo??
Desmond Sun 15:35

oh
MrEko Sun 15:35

although i guess if it was u that was the puppet then it wouldnt matter
Sun 15:35

so mb
Desmond Sun 15:37

Eko, u wanna discuss charlie?
MrEko Sun 15:37

can do
Sun 15:37

what do u wanna say about him?
Desmond Sun 15:37

u seemed like you were on to something, and i think there was something there
Sun 15:37

lets say charlie was as he put it wolf, how wud that play out with everyone else?
Sun 15:38

he said, if he is wolf, boone would be coven
Sun 15:38

we go back to that unlikely plan that el mentioned and boone found farfetched
MrEko Sun 15:38

lets think logically hmm
Desmond Sun 15:39

anyways, if Charlie is wolf - then boone is coven - what is Sun?
Sun 15:39

and walt?
MrEko Sun 15:39

if charlie was vampire how could boone no
Desmond Sun 15:39

that would work
MrEko Sun 15:39

1) boone is seer and saw charlie as vampire
Desmond Sun 15:39

(what we currently believe)
MrEko Sun 15:40

2) boone is wolf and what then bloodhound sniffed out vampire
Sun 15:40

or 3) boone is coven and ...
Sun 15:40

idk how coven could no vampire
Desmond Sun 15:40

charlie said he got lucky
MrEko Sun 15:41

so what if charlie rly was a wolf?
Desmond Sun 15:41

Charlie Sat 13:26 Boone is probably shrouded, he got lucky to accidentally guess an evil cus I could have been super lit with nice evidence for all he knew
Sun 15:41

If Charlie is Wolf:
MrEko Sun 15:42

so if charlie was a wolf then 1) boone can't be seer bcoz he wouldnt lie about charlie being vampire
Sun 15:42

2) boone cant be wolf because y would a wolf get anotha wolf lynched??
Sun 15:42

3) boone is coven but again how did they no??
Desmond Sun 15:43

lucky guess
Sun 15:43

he evn guessed wrong
Sun 15:43

he said vamp, when he was on to a wolf
Sun 15:44

eko what i want to know is this..
MrEko Sun 15:44

what i dont like about charlie is his confession was so random
Sun 15:44

it just came out of nowhere
Desmond Sun 15:44

was it? he saw he was getting lynched.. wanted the other evil factions down
Sun 15:45

he never mentioned anything abt Walt.. was walt a fellow wolf or a dispensable coven?
MrEko Sun 15:45

<11:34> But say you find a more concrete intel to follow, and I end up outting the prot already
Sun 15:46

uh i forgot how to timestamp
Sun 15:46

[Sat 12:57 So my prot suspect is now dead :P see why I wanted to hide it now?
Desmond Sun 15:46

can u PLEASE explain what all that was about
MrEko Sun 15:46

<MrEko> [Sat 13:08] who??
Sun 15:46

<Charlie> [Sat 13:20] Find it yourself lol. There are probably 2 vamps cause our n1 kill didn't go through yet 2 other deaths occurred.
Desmond Sun 15:48

if Prot was safe enough to come out (plz dont out urself prot, if ur alive), he could shed some light on that matter
Sun 15:48

coz Charlie says the person they went for was protected
Sun 15:48

and he says its someone between Jack, Juliet, and Sawyer
Sun 15:48

u guessed Sawyer but he never replied
MrEko Sun 15:49

he says jack l8r
Desmond Sun 15:49

he does?
Sun 15:49

ohh, thats why walt goes with jack!
Sun 15:49

that makes walt a fellow wolf
Sun 15:49

and makes sun not so lit
Sun 15:50

or did coven had time to switch him up?
MrEko Sun 15:50

um
Sun 15:50

i thought he did
Sun 15:50

but now i cant find it
Sun 15:50

wtf
Desmond Sun 15:51

say, a vamp had gone for ur shaman n1, coven can get someone innocent killed, then swap that shaman with the innocent, to prove theyr lit when a GD like Sun checks
Sun 15:51

okay ill go look myself as well, see if i find the jack one
MrEko Sun 15:52

apparently i just made it up
Sun 15:53

mb i dreampt it last night :||
Desmond Sun 15:53

lol
MrEko Sun 15:53

drempt
Sun 15:53

dreamt?
Desmond Sun 15:53

dreamt* yes ik
Sun 15:54

im warming up to the idea
Sun 15:55

but i dont know whether to keep Walt as coven, or a wolf...
Sun 15:56

lol, if Boone was here, he would answer all our questions, show us the pros and cons to each idea, lull us to bed singing a lullaby abt how he really is a tragically purged seer
MrEko Sun 15:57

im going crazy now
Sun 15:57

where the f*ck did i get that charlie said he checked jack n1 from?!?!?!
Desmond Sun 15:58

in order to find that out, u might have to read EVERYTHING from day 3, and not just Charlie's chats
Sun 16:01

nope, there wasnt time for coven to swap walt into a shaman, so he mustve been as shaman from the start..
Sun 16:01

a*
MrEko Sun 16:03

<Charlie> [Sat 10:15] Ahhh if I could survive one more night I could see if my prot suspect goes to Sun :P too bad
Sun 16:03

<Charlie> [Sat 10:15] If they look Shamany today I'll tell you before nightfall , maybe
Sun 16:03

<Charlie> [Sat 12:57] So my prot suspect is now dead :P see why I wanted to hide it now?
Sun 16:04

i mean i no we all no hes evil neway but i just noticed that when reading back over yesterday and it kinda stood out
Desmond Sun 16:06

i dont understand that prot comment
Sun 16:08

is he trying to to say our prot is dead? i dont think so
MrEko Sun 16:08

yes
Desmond Sun 16:09

its okay, call it intuition, but i think i know our prot is alive
MrEko Sun 16:09

<Charlie> [Sat 13:20] Find it yourself lol. There are probably 2 vamps cause our n1 kill didn't go through yet 2 other deaths occurred
Sun 16:09

<MrEko> [Sat 13:27] who did u try and kill n1?
Sun 16:09

<Charlie> [Sat 13:28] a) Jack b) Saywer or c) Juliet
Sun 16:10

<MrEko> [Sat 13:28] i choose b
Locke Sun 16:10

*lurks in the shadows*
MrEko Sun 16:10

(and then i thought after that he said they tried to kill jack but he didnt im just going insane lol)
Desmond Sun 16:10

so if charlie was wolf, 2 stupid bloodthirsty vamps are running around
MrEko Sun 16:11

nt necessarily
Sun 16:11

we dont no y there were 2 kills n1
Sun 16:11

we can rule out messiah tho
Desmond Sun 16:11

and we can rule HM
MrEko Sun 16:11

they would have come bk 2day!
Desmond Sun 16:12

rule out*
MrEko Sun 16:12

but we had 2 deaths last night 2
Sun 16:12

so idk
Desmond Sun 16:13

i so want to be the 2 puppets
Sun 16:13

but i get the feeling its not
Sun 16:13

want it*
MrEko Sun 16:13

mb there r 2 vampires + wolves or charlie was rly a wolf or mb desmond is lying and hm died last night or so many other possiblities ://
Sun 16:14

they both talked yesterday so only if charlie was pm which i dont think is likely
Desmond Sun 16:15

i meant the night with: Jack, Juliet, & Sawyer
Sun 16:15

and the PM would be a n1 kill (Ethan or Jacob)
Sun 16:16

bcz Jack & Juliet didnt vote or speak day2
MrEko Sun 16:16

doesnt seem possible
Desmond Sun 16:16

bcz of the walt-juliet swap
MrEko Sun 16:16

ye
Desmond Sun 16:16

yes, so PM is still alive
MrEko Sun 16:17

the only way is if sawyer was swapped with walt instead of juliet and then there were no other kills that night
Desmond Sun 16:17

there is one right? do u remember the count before game start?
MrEko Sun 16:17

yes there r puppets
Desmond Sun 16:18

sawyer spoke, he cudnt be puppet (at least not from Ethan or Jacob as PMs)
MrEko Sun 16:18

ye, but if sawyer was walt and is now pretending 2 b juliet lol
Sun 16:19

sry if walt was sawyer
Sun 16:19

but its a stupid suggestion
Sun 16:19

but just saying its possible
Desmond Sun 16:20

can you clarify that?
Sun 16:20

if its important that, my brain didnt catch ur meaning
Sun 16:21

and now my sentences are all garbled up, great
Sun 16:21

is garbled a word?
Sun 16:21

ugh, thinking hurts sometimes
MrEko Sun 16:21

ok on n1 lets pretend that p0 = [mystery pm] p1 = jack p2 = sawyer p3 = juliet and p4 = walt
Sun 16:21

so n1 p0 dies and then d2 p1 and p3 cant talk because p0 is dead
Sun Sun 16:21

Wait, if Walt and Juliet were swapped, Juliet(walt) hasn't confirmed the swap, have they?
Desmond Sun 16:21

she did
Sun 16:21

today
Sun Sun 16:22

Oh, right.
MrEko Sun 16:22

p2 and p4 can talk bcoz theyre normal people then n2 sayid shoots p4 (walt) and p2 and p4 are swapped
Sun 16:22

so then in the morning p1 p3 and p4 r all dead and p2 is now walt
Sun 16:22

understand now desmond??
Desmond Sun 16:23

giv me a sec
MrEko Sun 16:23

sun <Walt> [Sun 10:59] Sorry about yesterday. Didnt have time to read it all .. i logged in in a hurry yesterday to vote so i didnt get smited then got really surprised cz i was juliet and i am now walt
Desmond Sun 16:24

are p1-p4 possible puppets? or coven members?
MrEko Sun 16:24

theyre just players
Sun 16:24

p 4 player lol
Jin Sun 16:25

Having fun here with yourself, EkoMond? :)
MrEko Sun 16:25

im still not a puppet
Desmond Sun 16:26

basically ur saying maybe walt went into sawyer and not juliet?
Sun 16:27

wait no
MrEko Sun 16:27

demond im saying that technically it would b the only possibility that would account 4 both puppets 2 be dead
Sun 16:28

but its not likely
Sun 16:28

very unlikely
Sun 16:28

almost certainly didnt happen
Desmond Sun 16:28

gotcha
MrEko Sun 16:28

probably shouldnt have even mentioned it
Sun 16:29

but i like 2 make sure every1 is aware of all possibilities
Sun 16:30

altho w8 i think its still nt poss
Sun 16:30

bcoz they couldnt swap some1 into juliet be4 suns check
Sun 16:31

jin y dont u contribute something useful rather than throwing around useless and wrong puppet accusations ...
Desmond Sun 16:33

my issues are the following: 1) was walt coven helping boone who met a bad end 2)or was walt a wolf who coven somehow managed to show as a shaman
Sun 16:34

if the second one: would sun have to be lying? or could coven manage it without sun lying?
MrEko Sun 16:34

walt was coven
Sun 16:34

y else would he have been shrouded ...
Desmond Sun 16:34

but the above is a continue of: charlie equals wolfso boone equals coven
MrEko Sun 16:35

also weve spent like 4 days talking about pretty much nothing but f*cking coven with a brief sojourn in2 vampire territory
Sun 16:35

its like every1 forgot there r wolves
Desmond Sun 16:35

walt got a free shroud and then a free swap.. that makes u think he cant be wolf?
MrEko Sun 16:36

yes
Sun 16:36

pretty much
Desmond Sun 16:36

wolf work at night, coven take the dayshift..
MrEko Sun 16:37

um wats ur point?
Desmond Sun 16:37

well, stereotypically
Sun 16:37

im trying to justify why wolves havnt come across our way as much as coven
MrEko Sun 16:38

my point was we should be hunting wolves nt hunting coven
Desmond Sun 16:38

coven have to leave their houses to get somewhere, wolves can stay indoors and jst kill at night
Sun 16:38

thats the stereotype tho, i think wolves can be quite out there in daylight too
Sun 16:39

how do we find wolf with no seer, and no stalker claim..
Sun 16:40

HEY CHARLIE! u there? tell us who ur accomplices are! giv me a sec while i get my Ouija board
MrEko Sun 16:41

ur being flippant and it isnt endearing ...
Desmond Sun 16:41

yeah ur right, he wudnt be honest even in the grave
Moderator Sun 16:44

Sayid votes to lynch Eloise
Desmond Sun 16:44

xD ur killing eloise sayid...
Sayid Sun 16:45

Some one should lynch today
Sun 16:46

And this game is so boring
Sun 16:46

If you like ican change my vote to you
Sun 16:46

:D
Desmond Sun 16:46

you are the definition of militia 0.0
Sayid Sun 16:49

I love you guys too much i dont want you to pressure your brain for this game
Sun Sun 17:04

Ok, srsly, why all the votes on Eloise?
Sun 17:05

As suspicous as you are Desmond, I think you are a (possibly misguided) village member.
Sun 17:06

Eko...not really sure - you could be village, but I wouldn't be suprised if you were evil.
Sun 17:06

Sayid - Yeah, you seem lit.
Sun 17:07

Boone - He got Walt right, and probably Charlie right aswell. Could (possibly) have been BH, but seems lit.
Sun 17:07

Jin - <3
Sun 17:08

Eloise - Seems village-y to me, doing some good analysis. (Which I agree with)
Sun 17:08

Walt(Juliet) - Kinda suspicous, but circumstances seem to suggest that she is more likley village than evil.
Sun 17:09

ManInBlack - I actually find very suspicous. Potential Puppet/Evil
Sun 17:09

Ben - Super suspicous imo. Has my vote.
Sun 17:10

Mikhail - 50/50 on whether evil or not. Not a bad lynch if necessary.
Sun 17:11

Kate, Penelope, Naomi - Been lurking a bit too much. Probably an evil somewhere in this group.
Sun 17:11

Locke - Has been lurking (suspicous) - but seems village-y.
Sun 17:12

Charlotte - I literally have no idea
Sun 17:12

--------------------
Sun 17:12

There you go, all my suspicions.
Sun 17:15

I have no real of those who died, so I won't list them.
Sun 17:15

Hurley=WH, Charlie=Vamp, Juliet=Shaman, though.
Jin Sun 17:22

Still busy, will be there in 2 hours or so. I dont like the votes on Eloise too, dearI
Sun 17:23

When I have time, let's see how we can change that
MrEko Sun 17:25

<Sun> [Sun 17:08] Walt(Juliet) - Kinda suspicous, but circumstances seem to suggest that she is more likley village than evil.
Sun 17:25

what circumstances??
Sun Sun 17:30

The fact that they swapped Walt with her...actually, now that I think about it - They could be a puppet.
Sun 17:31

But they are either an innocent, or a puppet, imo.
Sun 17:31

I am leaning more towards puppet, now that I've thought about it.
MrEko Sun 17:37

im glad ur thinking :3
Naomi Sun 17:37

Could anyone please give me a brief summary? Weekends are busy for me
Sun 17:40

Any new claims / info?
MrEko Sun 17:40

desmond claimed huntsman
Naomi Sun 17:42

Was he pressured into claiming?
Eloise Sun 17:42

Let me say why I think Desmond is a wolf. Some of it is circumstantial evidence, but some of it points at him thinking contrary to the village's interest.
Sun 17:42

From D2 he has attacked the one who claimed to be our seer, who has proved himself to an extent by outing a confirmed coven member, and who has not been confronted with any counter claims.
Sun 17:42

Desmond has refused to see the gaping holes in Walt’s defense for a sign of evil, and placed his vote for a long time on the claimed seer instead.
Sun 17:42

He has welcomed a seer check as well as a witch hunter check, which suggests he might be a Dire Wolf.
Sun 17:42

He also has an “intuition” that the protector is still alive. How else could he know that unless his pack tried to kill somebody who was saved?
Sun 17:42

He supported Libby who had similarly suspicious voting behaviour.
Sun 17:42

He claims to be Huntsman, which I suspect was Richard’s role. If Desmond is a wolf he will know Richard was Huntsman because he shot Libby, so Desmond won’t get a counterclaim.
Sun 17:43

Desmond has also championed the theory that Charlie was a wolf instead of vampire, and that Boone is coven or wolf - which is illogical because a wolf wouldn’t out another wolf and a coven couldn’t know for certain that Charlie was evil, which he clearly was.
Sun 17:44
Sun Sun 17:44

All true, but I think he's just a (misguided?) villager, who is possibly leaping to all the wrong conclusions.
Sun 17:45

I mean, I point to Hurley as an example of this.
Eloise Sun 17:45

I would therefore be very grateful if more people could vote for Desmond, who is clearly trying to kill me during the daytime now that his attempts at night have failed.
MrEko Sun 17:45

um eloise r u claiming protector?
Eloise Sun 17:45

I wasn't aware.
Sun 17:46

But yes.
Sun 17:46

I am.
MrEko Sun 17:47

u seem awefully agressive for a protector lol
Sun 17:47

but ok
Eloise Sun 17:47

I know. I hadn't wanted to come out.
Moderator Sun 17:47

MrEko votes to lynch Desmond
Eloise Sun 17:48

Thank you.
Jin Sun 17:48

Desmond is also pretty aggressive, EkoMond
Sun 17:48

As "HM"
MrEko Sun 17:49

jin i think eloise has been openly vocal about more ppl being evil than desmond has
Sun 17:49

she accused like 6 people just yesterday
Eloise Sun 17:49

Guilty as charged.
Sun 17:49

But Desmond's theories haven't made any sense whatsoever, and are therefore not as helpful as mine.
MrEko Sun 17:50

but it kinda makes sense coz she could self protect n3
Jin Sun 17:50

Eloise at least made sense, EkoMond
MrEko Sun 17:50

jin ur rly starting 2 piss me off now im not a puppet ffs
Sun 17:50

eloise can u share ur protects except last night?
Sun Sun 17:50

I still think Ben or Mikhail are better lynches than Desmond. I actually do believe him. I know he's trying to get you - but you're trying to get him, Eloise.
Jin Sun 17:50

You should say it with capitals, EkoMond :)
Eloise Sun 17:51

True, Sun.
MrEko Sun 17:51

IM NOT A F*CKING PUPPET
Eloise Sun 17:51

Jin, can you please stop?
Jin Sun 17:51

Then it's better
MrEko Sun 17:51

happy jin?
Jin Sun 17:51

Okay
Sun 17:51

Quitting
MrEko Sun 17:51

plus i think eloise is right desmond is more likely 2 b a wolf than a puppet
Eloise Sun 17:52

I would like to focus on a good lynch. Right now, my head is on the block. I really don't think villagers would be happy to lose me.
Sayid Sun 17:52

@sun maybe ben and mikhail are with eloise (they are in one team)
MrEko Sun 17:52

sayid we could test that by having every1 vote for 1 of them
Eloise Sun 17:52

I don't trust Ben either - I am positive he is coven - but wolves have killing power and I think Desmond is a wolf.
MrEko Sun 17:53

i would be happy with either but i think id mb prefer mikhail first
Sayid Sun 17:53

:D
Sun 17:53

And boon is bh also
Sun Sun 17:53

*sigh*
Sayid Sun 17:53

He is still alive
Eloise Sun 17:53

I think Mikhail is village, but I also think I recognise the player which means he could be anything ;-)
MrEko Sun 17:54

ooh #meta lol
Eloise Sun 17:54

My theories about Boone: he is no longer of interest for evils to kill because he no longer can see.
Sun 17:54

Or he could be BH.
Sayid Sun 17:54

He is bh
Eloise Sun 17:55

Why do you think so?
MrEko Sun 17:55

sayid u seem pretty certain??
Eloise Sun 17:55

My other theory was that he could be familiar, by the way.
Sayid Sun 17:55

He wasnt real seer i think first night real seer was killd
Sun Sun 17:56

Hmm, intersting idea, Eloise
MrEko Sun 17:56

sayid ethan or jacob?
Eloise Sun 17:56

And outing his master would give him the street cred that seemed to be lacking with his first reveal.
MrEko Sun 17:57

eloise i think thats too risky wolves might kill him be4 he can revive his master
Sun Sun 17:57

I'm gonna vote Desmond, as I'd rather you didn't die rn, Eloise.
Moderator Sun 17:57

Sun votes to lynch Desmond
Eloise Sun 17:57

Thank you Sun.
Sun Sun 17:57

But I still think he's village.
Eloise Sun 17:58

Sayid, can you expand on why you are so sure Boone is BH?
Sayid Sun 17:58

I think like you sun
Eloise Sun 17:58

As an ex-militia how would you construct that?
Sayid Sun 17:59

Because he is not real seer
Eloise Sun 17:59

So?
Sun 17:59

And how do you know that?
Naomi Sun 18:00

Who is real seer then?
Eloise Sun 18:00

How do you know Ethan or Jacob was the seer?
Naomi Sun 18:00

Vamp was dug right?
Sun 18:00

right?
Eloise Sun 18:00

No.
Sun 18:01

Walt was dug as coven.
MrEko Sun 18:01

walt-now-juliet
Naomi Sun 18:01

Oh
MrEko Sun 18:01

rather than the walt who is still alive
Eloise Sun 18:01

Which sort of proves Boone's seeing/sniffing abilities.
Sayid Sun 18:02

Its so lame it dont need my explane
MrEko Sun 18:02

yes u do
Sayid Sun 18:03

If he is not seer it means he is bh because both of them cansee the roles
Eloise Sun 18:03

^
Sayid Sun 18:03

Can see*
Eloise Sun 18:03

But how do you know he is not seer?
Naomi Sun 18:03

We need your explain, lay it down plain
Eloise Sun 18:03

"He is still alive" is not a strong enough argument.
Sun 18:03

Because he no longer is a threat.
Sun 18:03

Having been purged.
Sayid Sun 18:04

My phone is hanging i cant type
Eloise Sun 18:04

Although he would be a huge threat if he was recruited by a VM.
Sayid Sun 18:04

BECAUSE seer wouldn’t say his roll in first day babe
Eloise Sun 18:04

I disagree.
Sun 18:05

For the reasons Boone has said.
Sun 18:05

As a seer, you don't want to take intelligence to the grave.
Sayid Sun 18:05

In fact you know what i mean
Naomi Sun 18:05

I don't object, he needed that protect
Eloise Sun 18:06

Sayid, I am not accusing you of anything and I do believe you are village-aligned for shooting Walt. But I just disagree with your reasoning.
Sayid Sun 18:06

You can tell this simple ppl to lynch me now :D
Eloise Sun 18:06

Please let's not.
Moderator Sun 18:06

Sun votes to lynch Sayid
Sun Sun 18:06

jk
Eloise Sun 18:06

We just disagree on logic and intuition. I do believe we are on the same side.
Sun 18:06

SUN!
Moderator Sun 18:06

Sun votes to lynch Desmond
Eloise Sun 18:06

Thank goodness...
Sun 18:08

By the way I would like to know what the suspicion is about Mikhail. I thought it was very suspicious that he just voted on D2 without a word.
Naomi Sun 18:08

We may want a backup lynch, or you could be in a pinch
Eloise Sun 18:08

But when he started speaking yesterday, he sounded like a villager to me.
Sun 18:09

Yes Naomi, I noticed...
Naomi Sun 18:10

What did others give as reasons for voting you?
Sun 18:10

I'm a bit behind
Sayid Sun 18:10

Just for fun :/
Sun 18:11

I love desmond and couse of this i dont want vote him
Moderator Sun 18:12

Sayid votes to lynch Kate
Sayid Sun 18:12

Asv now
Naomi Sun 18:20

I still suspect the hurley voters
Sayid Sun 18:22

Every thing boon said ppl did that
Sun Sun 18:32

Hurley was hugley suspicous, and acted highly oddly for a WH. I voted for him myself (I think).
Ben Sun 18:33

@des, I still think u are one of the village... Coven members usually claim some roles like protectors to explain for being wc users.
Moderator Sun 18:34

Ben votes to lynch Eloise
Moderator Sun 18:41

Naomi votes to lynch Jin
Locke Sun 18:58

Wait, what?
Sun 18:59

All you guys are like: "yeah, Desmond is villager" but still vote for him?
Sun 19:00

I mean, wtf?
Sun 19:00

Should we not lynch someone who is actually evil?
MrEko Sun 19:04

who locke
Ben Sun 19:07

Either Eloise, Jin (v suspicious), or Sun
Sun 19:08

I rlly recommend Jin, Des if u are out there, choose one of them to vote for too
Sun 19:09

Locke and Eko, who are u guys voting for?
Locke Sun 19:10

I already voted Eloise
MrEko Sun 19:12

ben im voting desmond
Locke Sun 19:12

Eko, why him?
MrEko Sun 19:13

i thought eloise made a gud case 4 him being a wolf
Locke Sun 19:13

Did she?
Sun Sun 19:14

100% of my suspicion is on Ben.
Locke Sun 19:14

Imo, all she did was spread poison around
Sun Sun 19:14

But unless other people agree, I can't push that lynch through, so I'll stick with Desmond, who is possibly a wolf.
Sun 19:14

Imo, all Eloise did was give vluable analysis.
Locke Sun 19:15

Sun, I agree, I suspect Ben and Eloise
Sun 19:15

What did Ben claim?
Sun Sun 19:15

I don't get the suspicion on Eloise.
Sun 19:19

If anyone wants to join me in voting Ben, that would be good, I think. But I don't want to risk accidentaly lynching Eloise.
Locke Sun 19:23

Why? Is she that important to you?
MrEko Sun 19:24

locke she claimed protector...
Sun 19:25

so yeah kinda important lol
Jin Sun 20:00

Anyone here? :)
MrEko Sun 20:01

ye
Jin Sun 20:01

Hi, MrEko.
Sun 20:02

I'd prefer it if we have a greater difference in the votes, so we can at least differentiate between effects of puppets are harpies
MrEko Sun 20:04

well i am afraid i cant help u there
Eloise Sun 20:04

Jin, what do you mean? Spread them even more thinly than they are already?
Sun 20:05

I feel like some evils can just snipe me very easily within the hour.
Kate Sun 20:05

I'm unsure about Desmond but i find him more sus than Eloise
Eloise Sun 20:05

I never got to say my protector actions with all the clamouring going on.
Jin Sun 20:05

I have 4 on Desmond, 3 on you, Eloise. I'd like to have it 4-2 or 5-3
Moderator Sun 20:05

Kate votes to lynch Desmond
Eloise Sun 20:06

Thank you Kate.
Jin Sun 20:06

That's better :)
Eloise Sun 20:06

N1: role blocked
Sun 20:06

N2: self
Sun 20:06

N3: can't say
Jin Sun 20:07

This is the first mentioning of a roleblock right?
Eloise Sun 20:07

Yes.
Sun 20:07

I wanted to keep it to myself lest I get role blocked again.
Jin Sun 20:07

Makes sense to not draw attention to yourself by mentioning it
MrEko Sun 20:07

y didnt u say u were roleblocked sooner
Sun 20:07

o rite
Sun 20:07

but still
Sun 20:07

u shud have said
Jin Sun 20:07

Is there anyone else that god roleblocked though?
Kate Sun 20:07

i think even vanillas get the roleblock message
Jin Sun 20:08

that got*
MrEko Sun 20:08

ye kate is rite
Jin Sun 20:08

@Kate: indeed
Eloise Sun 20:08

Do they Kate?
MrEko Sun 20:08

ye
Eloise Sun 20:08

Sorry, I didn't know.
Jin Sun 20:08

but they might miss the notification easier
Eloise Sun 20:08

I thought mentioning would out me as a role that could be blocked.
Kate Sun 20:08

I understand being worried about that at least
Eloise Sun 20:09

And I have seen people get role blocked twice in a row, and getting suspicion cast on themselves.
Sun 20:09

So I thought if I didn't mention it, I wouldn't get blocked again.
Sun 20:09

And I didn't.
Jin Sun 20:09

good
Kate Sun 20:09

makes sense at least
Sun 20:10

i just wonder why no one else has been blocked
Jin Sun 20:10

Anyone else wants to claim block?
Kate Sun 20:10

Also not sure if anyone pointed this out yet, but Boone was purged the same night that they think alc would have re-rolled
Jin Sun 20:10

I think it may be a sign that people who were blocked weren't ready to claim, because they didn't want the exposure, either as village (like Eloise) or as evil
Kate Sun 20:11

which doesn't work
Jin Sun 20:11

It does, doesn't it?
Sun 20:11

It's possible?
Kate Sun 20:11

meaning original walt was not alc but was always shaman
Eloise Sun 20:11

If DW blocked coven, the targets wouldn't be keen to voice it.
Sun 20:12

Kate?
Kate Sun 20:12

ya?
Eloise Sun 20:13

How do you mean?
Sun 20:13

Couldn't Walt have been alchemist and re-rolled Shaman?
Sun 20:13

And been Djinned by somebody else?
Kate Sun 20:13

not if Boone was purged the same night
Sun 20:13

which he was
Sun 20:13

according to the claim
Eloise Sun 20:13

I think it is possible.
MrEko Sun 20:13

alchemist can purge some1 and reroll himself in the same night
Eloise Sun 20:13

Alchemist has two potions.
Kate Sun 20:14

oh they can use both at once??
Eloise Sun 20:14

Yes.
MrEko Sun 20:14

ye
Kate Sun 20:14

i feel stupid :3
Eloise Sun 20:14

No you're not.
Sun 20:14

It takes some experience of these roles I think to know.
Kate Sun 20:15

Ya I hope it's not too meta but I can't think of a single time I've even been coven
MrEko Sun 20:15

i do think its kinda weird eloise nos about alchemist but not about direwolf
Sun 20:16

but not weird enough to make me suspect her yet
Eloise Sun 20:16

(meta-alert) I've previously been on a coven team with alchemists who kept re-rolling alchemist themselves, while purging the whole blessed village.
Sun 20:16

</meta>
Jin Sun 20:16

lol
Kate Sun 20:16

i remember that one at least. I was so confused about how they had enough time to re-roll and purge as many times as they did
Sun 20:16

now it all makes sense
Eloise Sun 20:18

I've not been DW before but I know they are not seen as magic users and show up as village to seers.
Sun 20:18

So MrEko, what are you finding strange?
Sun 20:18

Have I got that wrong?
Kate Sun 20:19

he was saying the fact that you didn't know vanillas also get DW block message
Eloise Sun 20:19

Ah.
Sun 20:19

That's right, I didn't
Kate Sun 20:19

but i was the reverse where i knew that and didn't know about alc so its not really a real argument in my opinion
Eloise Sun 20:19

Like MrEko said.
Kate Sun 20:20

I don't trust desmond but is it possible that he is HM and Richard was as well?
Eloise Sun 20:21

Yes, of course. My reason to believe Richard was HM is a bit circumstantial.
Sun 20:22

I was making up my mind who to protect tonight and considered Richard because he said "loads gun" when Walt came to defend himself.
Sun 20:22

*last night
Sun 20:23

I figured the wolves might want to kill him in case he was the HM.
Kate Sun 20:23

I wonder if HM would hint like that, very under the radar. That reminds me though, Juliet-now-Walt showed up and then didnt say much today -_-
Eloise Sun 20:23

I was trying to think like a wolf but chose somebody else to protect, obviously.
Kate Sun 20:24

Even if you did protect him, he could still die if he were in fact, a HM
Eloise Sun 20:24

Anyway, with Libby being suspicious, and Desmond taking her side and sounding like a DW to me, I figured Libby might be wolf and Richard HM as I had thought.
Sun 20:25

Desmond could in fact be HM but then why would he try so hard to create smokescreens whenever somebody tries to reason logically?
Kate Sun 20:25

im mainly worried Desmond is just going to be another Hurley :/
Sun 20:26

like "why would he do all these things??" and it turns out just its just cause he was edgy HM
Eloise Sun 20:26

He totally could be another Hurley. But Hurley tried to get us not to lynch somebody who had been Seen as coven, and has been confirmed coven by Sun.
Sun 20:26

So what good does THAT do the village?
Kate Sun 20:27

I mean i can see doubting a D2 seer claim. I wasn't ready to immediately believe Boone but after Walt showed up i was mostly convinced
Eloise Sun 20:27

Hurley turning out to be WH gave me visions of The Return of Greenbear.
Sun 20:28

He just didn't make any sense, and went against village interests even though being village.
Kate Sun 20:28

*shivers* greenbear...
Eloise Sun 20:29

If I were a reviver, I'd actually think twice about reviving him lest he be like that again.
Kate Sun 20:29

also the fact that he may be swapped by now
Sun 20:29

??
Eloise Sun 20:30

But he couldn't have been swapped by the time Sun dug him.
Sun 20:30

I hoped she was wrong.
Kate Sun 20:30

ya at that point he was the same but once sun revealed the role they probably wanted to swap that
Eloise Sun 20:41

Kate, do you understand the suspicion on Mikhail? He's been mentioned a few times but I don't understand what people have against him except just voting Libby on D2.
Sun 20:42

Mind you, that was after Libby had randomly voted him after all the discussion about Walt being coven and Boone's legitimacy.
Sun 20:42

So, fair enough.
Kate Sun 20:42

not really besides the fact that he may be lurking a lot of the time
Sun 20:42

he hasn't said much has he?
Eloise Sun 20:43

No, but he made some valid observations the other day. Asked solid critical questions.
Sun 20:43

I'll read back...
Kate Sun 20:44

i just read back and they didn't seem like they were particularly helpful
Sun 20:45

Although i was surprised to see that he singled me out xD
Eloise Sun 20:50

I read that too... But he just said "If Boone turns out to be BH" you might be wolf too. I am not convinced Boone is Direwolf because I think Desmond and Libby are more likely to be wolf, and they dug straight into him.
Sun 20:51

But yes, Mikhail's questions were more focused on puppetry than anything else, as it now appears to me.
Kate Sun 20:53

ya i just really hope Boone turns out to not be BH. honestly if he were evil, I would suspect that he is actually coven
Sun 20:53

but i think he is most likely lit
Eloise Sun 20:55

I doubt he would be coven. But I am very keen to learn what Desmond is if not DW. Hopefully we will learn tomorrow.
Kate Sun 20:57

indeed, stay safe tonight
Sun 20:57

*loads gun*
Moderator Sun 20:59

Creatures of the night begin to stir...
Lynched Sun 21:00

Desmond was lynched by the village
Moderator Mon 09:00

The cockerel stirs...
Killed Mon 09:00

Kate was killed during the night
Killed Mon 09:00

Ben was killed during the night
Killed Mon 09:00

Jin was killed during the night
Killed Mon 09:00

Mikhail was killed during the night

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