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Brand Mon 08:05

Well, that's certainly interesting
Mon 08:06

(1) Varus, why didn't you protect Twisted last night (2) Corki, did anyone visit you (3) Poppy, Lux, did either / both of you stalk me?
Moderator Mon 08:09

Brand votes to lynch Graves
Brand Mon 08:09

(4) If Twisted was Familiar, who the fuck killed him, Graves?
Poppy Mon 08:25

@(3): Brand, worried that we caught you in the act?
Brand Mon 08:28

Poppy, not at all, I know if you did then you saw me not visit
Poppy Mon 08:28

Just teasing you
Mon 08:28

Frankly, suddenly having a kill again N8 makes me paranoid as shit
Brand Mon 08:28

But I'm aware Twisted was very much against me yesterday and so him dying instantly makes me look worse
Mon 08:29

And yeah, it's weird
Poppy Mon 08:29

There are a few people that I can rule out because of recent checks. The problem is that every person's validity decays so quickly because of VM ;o
Brand Mon 08:30

I wonder if the vampire intended to lay low, make us think they were all gone, but then realised with Twisted around that won't work
Mon 08:30

So they had to kill him?
Poppy Mon 08:30

Indeed
Mon 08:30

Okay, so here's my thoughts on people
Mon 08:30

oh wait, brb
Mon 08:30

come back ot that
Brand Mon 08:31

You've 100% confirmed Varus, right Poppy?
Mon 08:31

Like, there's no way he's evil if you're not?
Poppy Mon 08:31

I cannot explain a self-protect any other way at the moment
Mon 08:32

It's at least not Vamp/Fam
Brand Mon 08:32

Yeah, okay, so he's protected himself t'other night, so he was a safe kill last night
Poppy Mon 08:32

Could be Coven, alchemified to, mmzz.. Shaman?
Brand Mon 08:32

But vampire went for Twisted instead
Mon 08:32

Hmm
Mon 08:32

Ooooooooh
Mon 08:33

Teemo coven, Varus shaman, and then what?
Mon 08:33

How was there a kill?
Mon 08:33

A witch?
Mon 08:33

Or phantom wolf from the lure totem?
Poppy Mon 08:34

Graves is likely to be coven but very unlikely to be related to VM. Orianna and Zilean, for example, have been in the shadows for a while now - could they be recruited in the meantime?
Brand Mon 08:35

Hmm, could Ori have been recruited without the other masons knowing?
Mon 08:35

Vi suggested she was evil, but I don't think we can trust anything she said?
Mon 08:36

Lucian seemed to trust Ori the day before he died, so I don't think she could have been turned before then?
Poppy Mon 08:36

indeed
Mon 08:36

Okay, we should rethink recruit amounts perhaps to consider what is even possible Fam-wise :o
Brand Mon 08:37

We assume Zi can't have been recruited before he revived you, maybe he could have been recruited that same night?
Poppy Mon 08:37

But it's so hard to come with anything concrete/certain in that regard
Mon 08:37

Indeed
Mon 08:37

or some time after
Brand Mon 08:37

He left it quite late (like, an entire day) before taking ownership of your revive
Poppy Mon 08:38

Indeed
Brand Mon 08:38

What if he revived you and was turned, then hoped by not claiming you'd look suspicious and get lynched?
Mon 08:38

Then when that didn't work, thought it was better to have the "confirmed reviver" badge?
Poppy Mon 08:38

It's an option
Brand Mon 08:39

I'm literally just throwing out ideas here :/
Poppy Mon 08:39

I'm thinking now that we may see kills every night from now on, and intel is being targeted, we need to lynch fast
Mon 08:39

Perhaps Graves is not the best option, but we go for somebody who's less likely to be evil, but if they're evil it's worse - if you know what I mean
Mon 08:40

So Zilean/Orianna would be my 2 suggestion for today
Mon 08:40

Perhaps Zilean first
Mon 08:42

N10 we should get some abilities back: Orianna's militia, Brand/Zilean's revives. Both are rather risky abilities at this moment (revives + Djinn, and militia is also a cover for evil killing ability)
Lux Mon 08:51

I have no reasons to be coven
Mon 08:52

because I am claiming swap, right now, at this second
Mon 08:52

varus speaking
Mon 08:52

a coven wouldn't claim swap
Mon 08:54

I want to hear from corki if anyone visited him last night
Moderator Mon 08:55

Lux votes to lynch Graves
Lux Mon 08:56

so I can confirm you guys that a djinn is alive
Mon 08:58

I think orianna and zilean could be good options too, the djinn might've just swapped two lit intels for confusion rather than for finding a shelter
Mon 08:58

I mean, two lit power roles
Mon 08:58

protector isn't an intel, what am I saying
Mon 08:59

but even with what I just said, still consider the now varus-previous lux
Mon 09:00

maybe I'll move my vote so it's unpiled for now, let's decide this more carefully
Moderator Mon 09:00

Lux votes to lynch Orianna
Poppy Mon 09:04

One way or another, here are the signs of the evils` final stand, I guess.
Mon 09:11

Not sure what to think about this. The whole game we've seen little Djinn-swaps amongst the living (I think Veigar had to be swapped if both my account of their double visit and the GDs account of them being Puppet being true, but other than that I cannot think of anything).
Mon 09:11

Also: @Lux - if you're not coven because 'a coven wouldn't claim swap', it's a reason why coven would claim swap. See why point?
Mon 09:12

Now I checked Varus the other day and his self-visit can only be explained by 2 coven roles (Alch/Shaman), so it's not necessary likely, but I can't rule it out at this point.
Zilean Mon 09:12

Why am I evil now?
Moderator Mon 09:13

Zilean votes to lynch Graves
Zilean Mon 09:14

TF could be a witch kill
Poppy Mon 09:14

You haven't done anything that proves you're good, and with VMs in the game that means your validity automatically decays - there are a lot of nights between your revive (which you claimed strangely late) and now, in which you could've been recruited.
Mon 09:14

So not saying you're evil, but we have little knowledge about you now. That's all
Mon 09:14

And I agree with TF possibly being a witch kill.
Mon 09:16

With Lux hinting about Corki's night report, I'm also curious to hear from him by the way!
Mon 09:21

We have a minimum of two evils at the moment. A killing evil (VM/Witch) + a Djinn (Varus/Lux) OR two people lying about a Djinn-swap (Varus/Lux), whereby one of them has the ability to kill (TF).
Mon 09:22

A killing evil (VM/Witch) because TF was killed, and a Djinn because Varus and Lux were swapped. The way I used the parantheses for different purposes in my previous sentence is perhaps misleading... ;)
Orianna Mon 10:31

Me is stil me :v
Moderator Mon 10:32

Orianna votes to lynch Graves
Orianna Mon 10:33

I hope I get my power back
Lux Mon 10:38

other than to cast suspicion on me, I can't figure out why I was a good swap for the djinn to even consider
Mon 10:39

lux and varus' get online at completely different time of the day
Mon 10:39

wait, is that meta?
Orianna Mon 10:39

No
Brand Mon 11:45

Hmmmm, a Djinn swap this late in the game is quite weird... Why bother unless coven expected either Lux or Varus to die?
Mon 11:46

And that would imply that one of those two (which ever was expected to not die, I guess?) is coven too?
Poppy Mon 11:54

Interesting. Let me check some stuff
Mon 12:09

Okay, I have done some research and I am eager to share some of my findings with you. But first, I will leave it to Lux-now-Varus(?) to speak up, and also I want to hear Corki out. Corki, please confirm whether you were visited last night, and for the record please give an overview of all visits since you were purged to insomnia.
Brand Mon 13:07

So, I don't think last night can be a coven kill
Poppy Mon 13:08

Why not?
Brand Mon 13:08

I think we have only two options: (a) Twisted was GD; (b) Twisted was Familiar
Poppy Mon 13:08

Yes
Brand Mon 13:09

If Twisted was Familiar, I think at this point in the hands he'd have to have been the VM (we've got too many familiars in the GY?) so that makes him night immune
Mon 13:09

The game *
Poppy Mon 13:10

Yeah - it's not a waterproof argument, but it seems reasonable.
Mon 13:10

I have to leave for now, we'll get back to this point
Brand Mon 13:11

If he's GD, that makes Vi a Familiar as claimed - so either VM is still out there (where's their kill?) or it was Teemo (why would coven kill the GD)
Corki Mon 13:18

hey guys
Mon 13:18

funny, seems somebody wanna check me xD
Mon 13:19

ok, im unable to sleep last9, again, Poppy
Mon 13:19

poppy visited me last9
Mon 13:20

and let me guess, Poppy, I stayed at home all night long
Mon 13:20

;)
Mon 13:22

alright....After purging at N4, I only have 2 visitors: N6 was Jhin and N8 was Poppy
Mon 13:23

no one visited me N5 and N7
Mon 13:23

so if Lux said she visited me N5 =>>> she lied
Poppy Mon 14:00

@Corki: thanks for the confirmation of my visit. I confirm you were in your bed, awake, all night
Mon 14:00

I am building a case against Lux atm :)
Moderator Mon 14:12

Corki votes to lynch Graves
Poppy Mon 14:14

Alright, here we go.
Mon 14:14

Anyone here to talk with me?
Lux Mon 14:21

corki
Mon 14:21

was poppy the only visitor last night?
Mon 14:22

confirm this
Mon 14:23

it'll help me think who are the evils
Poppy Mon 14:23

In case Corki's not showing up... LuxVarus, are you going to contest this?
Lux Mon 14:24

I can't stay for long, so in fact, I'm not even going to wait for his confirmation
Mon 14:25

I'm gonna give him like, some more minutes
Poppy Mon 14:25

Okay
Lux Mon 14:30

time's up
Mon 14:31

I protected corki last night, he is either fam, vamp or coven if he didn't see my visit
Brand Mon 14:31

*bzzzzzz*
Lux Mon 14:32

his list is unreliable now
Mon 14:32

to me at least
Brand Mon 14:32

Because?
Mon 14:32

You protected him last night?
Lux Mon 14:32

.......read up
Brand Mon 14:32

I scanned, I think I got the general idea
Lux Mon 14:33

don't be this ignorant, it's literally above your head
Brand Mon 14:33

Oh, sorry, my page didn't refresh
Poppy Mon 14:33

And it makes total sense to protect Corki, of course
Mon 14:33

(you should activate your sarcasm sensors for this last sentence)
Brand Mon 14:33

I had nothing between "times up" and my *bzzzzz*
Poppy Mon 14:34

Okay, I've made up my mind.
Mon 14:34

Lux and Varus are our enemies.
Brand Mon 14:34

I was wondering if Corki was just bluffing based on what Poppy said
Poppy Mon 14:35

I didn't make strong hints, I believe
Brand Mon 14:35

Poppy, both of them?
Poppy Mon 14:35

I think so.
Brand Mon 14:35

Oh, right I think I see
Mon 14:35

But, um
Lux Mon 14:35

I didn't see twistedfate requesting for protection, also, what is wrong with protecting a village and also confirming one?
Brand Mon 14:35

Doesn't stalker see insomniac visit themselves?
Poppy Mon 14:35

Nope
Mon 14:35

It's an exception
Mon 14:35

I know this 100% sure :)
Brand Mon 14:35

Okay, cool
Mon 14:36

So, question is, Lux vs Varus.. Both evil? Both coven?
Poppy Mon 14:36

There are several questions we need to address.
Brand Mon 14:36

Mmmh, wait
Poppy Mon 14:36

First of all: what would Teemo be if they really visited Corki?
Lux Mon 14:36

a village, probably
Poppy Mon 14:37

Coven: Alch/Shaman/Succ (doesn't make sense) or Witch/Djinn (is impossible).
Lux Mon 14:37

an alchemist transmuting friend has no reason to come out about the visit
Brand Mon 14:37

Could be witch
Poppy Mon 14:37

Vamp: recruit (possible, unlikely), kill (impossible)
Brand Mon 14:37

Maybe they tried to kill Corki and failed?
Mon 14:37

Oh, wait
Lux Mon 14:37

you cannot recruit a coven
Brand Mon 14:37

Ignore me
Mon 14:37

I'm getting this all backwards
Mon 14:38

I'm gonna finish my work and then leave and actually concentrate on all this x_x
Lux Mon 14:38

corki has reasons to lie, so he is marked evil to me, and if he is evil, he can't be recruited, but he didn't die, so, teemo should have been a village
Poppy Mon 14:38

So then we shoudl kill Varus, right?
Mon 14:38

Because Lux-now-Varus was lying?
Mon 14:38

Because Teemo claimed reviver, so couldn't have been seen visiting...
Lux Mon 14:39

yeah, a reviver can only visit the dead ones
Poppy Mon 14:39

Indeed
Moderator Mon 14:39

Poppy votes to lynch Varus
Lux Mon 14:39

was teemo purged?
Moderator Mon 14:39

Lux votes to lynch Varus
Poppy Mon 14:39

Nope
Lux Mon 14:39

we need.... at least two more votes, assuming we can get someone to move from grave
Mon 14:40

if a swap was needed, he's probably more important to be alive than grave, more reasons we should kill him
Moderator Mon 14:40

Zilean votes to lynch Varus
Lux Mon 14:41

brand, we need you
Mon 14:41

or this is a balance
Poppy Mon 14:41

Okay, so it may be possible that Lux is really Varus and is really lit. It may also be possible they're both evil. Let me at least present more on what I have on Lux(-now-Varus?)
Mon 14:42

N1: Warwick - no visit. Uncontested because Warwick wasn't active at all. Worst case: a Puppet scenario/good luck that Warwick didn't speak up.
Mon 14:42

N2: missed check. Worst case: evil.
Mon 14:43

N3: Poppy - Veigar. Worst case: good guess, and/or a way to frame me as Veigar's killer. It's convenient that I was dead anyway and couldn't contest. Note: this is the hardest to explain in another way than Lux being a real Stalker, but it could be so.
Mon 14:43

N4: TF visited Veigar. This was simply already stated by TF, so no new info.
Mon 14:44

N5: Corki - no visit. If Corki was purged, this was to be expected (even more if you're part of the coven, because you know for sure Corki was pruged). Note: this visit wasn't seen by Corki, as Insomniac.
Mon 14:44

N6: Vi - Lucian. This was simply already stated by me, so no new info.
Mon 14:44

N7: Teemo - Corki. Contested by Teemo.
Mon 14:44

N8: yet to come.
Mon 14:45

The problem I have with this list is that, other than N3, nothing is confirmed/new/really confirming Lux.
Mon 14:45

It's also convenient that our Gravedigger dies after Teemo dies. Perhaps Lux's false accusation on Teemo wasn't to be exposed by TF?
Lux Mon 14:45

to me, teemo can't be anything but village now, and if it is true, I feel sorry for him
Mon 14:46

because of that lynch
Poppy Mon 14:46

It's also convenient that we have a Djinn-swap claim with the Revivers almost having their ability again. It's because of a Djinn-swap-claim we wouldn't want to revive again, which is convenient for those who don't want, for example, TwistedFate to expose Lux.
Mon 14:47

I was also asking myself: what evidence of Djinn have we seen? The only evidence of Djinn I see is N3, me seeing Veigar as a witch (based on visits) and TwistedFate seeing them the night after as Puppet. So it's a Djinn then and there, or TwistedFate was lying.
Mon 14:47

Do we have any other evidence or Djinn-swaps occurring?
Lux Mon 14:48

I don't think so? what happened to the three GDs incident?
Mon 14:48

what concerns me now though, it's that what if a vamp is still alive? we're catching only covens here and there and everywhere
Poppy Mon 14:48

About Stalker claims: we shouldn't forget we had 3 Stalkers to start with. I am one, naturally. There are 2 others, which means that out of Kassadin, Corki, and Lux one is lying.
Mon 14:49

We haven't addressed this issue lately, I feel.
Lux Mon 14:49

corki is definitely lying
Poppy Mon 14:49

I'm hesitant to believe that.
Lux Mon 14:49

but it could be that he's lying as a useless fam, or a djinn, since he didn't visit
Mon 14:51

but if we're dealing with a witch, as you mentioned about the convenient deaths, doesn't that mean they're about to get their potions refreshed too?
Mon 14:52

this..... could be very dangerous
Poppy Mon 14:52

Yes, a Witch would get potions as well
Lux Mon 14:53

you're here to unblance if it's required, right?
Mon 14:53

I'm about to leave soon
Poppy Mon 14:53

Go on then
Mon 14:54

I'm here
Corki Mon 15:03

sorry, my record was only Poppy
Mon 15:03

i dont trust you Lux
Mon 15:05

if Temoo said he also visited me , so he lied too
Mon 15:05

all record I have are Jhin and Poppy
Mon 15:07

so now who is the potential lynch
Brand Mon 15:18

*reads back*
Mon 15:22

Still reading but I'm not sure we get our abilities back on D10 you know
Mon 15:22

I'm aware that it was discussed, but I don't think it's guaranteed?
Mon 15:25

Love how Zi slips in to drop a vote but doesn't add anything
Mon 15:28

This is a wonderful choice we've got going btw guys
Moderator Mon 15:29

Brand votes to lynch Lux
Zilean Mon 15:37

Brand, you want varus (lux) to balance the votes later?
Poppy Mon 15:37

@Corki: Teemo didn't say he visited you, he was accused of visitng you by Lux
Zilean Mon 15:37

I think its better if you put a vote on varus brand
Poppy Mon 15:38

@Brand: I think it happened before in very extensive games, abilities being reset
Mon 15:38

Zilean
Mon 15:38

Please tell us a bit more what you think about who's suspicious
Zilean Mon 15:39

I think evils are varus, graves and maybe brand
Mon 15:39

On my phone right now so Im lazy at typing
Brand Mon 15:40

Zi, I'll put my vote where I want it
Mon 15:40

And right now, I want it on Lux
Poppy Mon 15:41

Why?
Mon 15:42

Admittedly, we still need to hear from Varus
Brand Mon 15:42

Reasons ;)
Poppy Mon 15:42

(or Lux, maybe, if you know what I mean)
Brand Mon 15:42

Hehe
Mon 15:42

Fucking Djinns
Mon 15:43

Zi, only way we can get a balance is 4-4 or 2-2-2-2
Mon 15:44

So, no, I'm not putting it there for balance
Mon 15:45

I'm wondering if it's possible that Varus is dead
Poppy Mon 15:47

How would that work, then?
Brand Mon 15:49

Well tl:dr I have no idea (yet) but... coven's main power is causing trouble, and that is exactly what Lux is doing today, and to some extent in previous days too
Mon 15:50

Previously she claimed Teemo visited Corki, Corki and Teemo both contradict; today she claims to have been swapped *and* to have visited Corki last night and again he contradicts
Mon 15:52

Out of Corki and Varus, you've given me a strong reason to believe Varus was really the protector, and we knew he couldn't self protect last night
Poppy Mon 15:54

Good point
Mon 15:55

In that case, Varus will surely contradict Lux's assertion that there has been a Djinn-swap.
Mon 15:55

If so, we'll get to Lux, definitely.
Brand Mon 15:55

We definitely need to hear from a Varus
Mon 15:56

But either way, at least one (probably two) of Lux / Varus / Corki must be evil
Mon 15:56

If there was a swap, both now-Lux and now-Varus contradict Corki separability
Mon 15:56

Uh, separately
Mon 15:57

If there wasn't a swap, then only still-Lux contradicts
Poppy Mon 15:59

I agree that 1/2 are evil
Mon 16:00

And I'm not sure who to believe yet, let's hear from Varus
Brand Mon 16:00

However, right now what stood out most to me (and the reason I placed my vote, although I suspect I did it too late for the effect I wanted) was that despite Corki and Lux being at odds, Corki still voted Lux
Mon 16:00

Um
Mon 16:00

Still voted Varus
Poppy Mon 16:01

Yes, I noticed that as well
Brand Mon 16:01

Not sure if it's a case of bandwagonning, or just a generic apathy about who is killed.
Poppy Mon 16:07

Indeed
Brand Mon 16:08

Uh, next question... If we do have a D10 refresh, if there's a VM alive will they get more recruits :<
Poppy Mon 16:11

@MODERATOR: it would be fair if we got knowledge about VM recruits being replenished or not
Mon 16:28

Well, I'm not sure we'll get an answer, so we can't rely on that. We'll just have to figure out this stuff on our own
Varus Mon 16:30

Hey
Mon 16:30

I'm a dude
Mon 16:30

Brand stayed at home
Mon 16:30

Why am I having 3 votes?
Mon 16:31

Poppy, Lux and Zi?
Poppy Mon 16:31

Ah, Varus
Varus Mon 16:31

Isn't it obvious that Corki lied?
Poppy Mon 16:31

Who did you protect?
Varus Mon 16:31

I'm Lux, Poppy
Mon 16:31

I was swapped
Moderator Mon 16:32

Varus votes to lynch Corki
Poppy Mon 16:32

Of course
Varus Mon 16:33

Poppy, do you believe Corki?
Poppy Mon 16:33

I'm not sure.
Varus Mon 16:33

You can look back at his check, none of them makes sense
Mon 16:33

So here's the thing.
Poppy Mon 16:33

You're biased now, obviously, but please check if I was hinting (too obviously) today that I visited Corki
Mon 16:34

I need people not involved in this circle (Lux-Varus-Corki-me) to speak out on this as well, please
Mon 16:34

Did you think it was an easy guess for Corki to state I visited them?
Varus Mon 16:34

I confirmed your visit in N3, you confirmed Varus (now Lux)'s self-protection last night. Corki conflicts me. Corki conflicts Varus
Mon 16:34

And you think I am a problem?
Mon 16:35

If Corki's lit, all me, you and Varus (now Lux) are all evils
Poppy Mon 16:35

@Varus: if you see my overview of your checks you can also see that your confirmation of me N3 is the only thing that's really strong in your claim.
Mon 16:35

That's unfortunate in this scenario, and makes me possibly suspect you
Mon 16:36

@Varus: also
Varus Mon 16:36

there're 3 stalkers in this game
Poppy Mon 16:36

if you saw Teemo visit Corki
Varus Mon 16:36

Corki has none check
Poppy Mon 16:36

What was it?>
Mon 16:36

None of the possible visits from Teemo on Corki make sense, also given that Corki visited no one last night
Varus Mon 16:36

I don't know. It could be a recruitment, or a coven's one
Mon 16:37

What if Corki was recruited
Mon 16:37

and there's a VM out there
Poppy Mon 16:37

If Corki was recruited, I would almost certainly see a visit (be it militia, GD, or Stalker)
Mon 16:38

Perhaps FamMilitia not necessarily but I think Corki may have used a kill asap
Varus Mon 16:38

lay low, afraid of a check?
Brand Mon 16:38

Poppy, the randomness of you saying I need to hear from Corki to me suggested that you visited him
Mon 16:38

But actually, Poppy, you make a good point
Poppy Mon 16:38

Fair points, both of you
Mon 16:39

Still, it's unlikely
Brand Mon 16:39

Regardless of if we believe him or not, he can't be VM?
Poppy Mon 16:39

I mean, if Teemo was VM then Corki was now VM
Brand Mon 16:39

Because as you say, you'd have seen a visit
Poppy Mon 16:39

and VM didn't move but TF still ended up dead
Varus Mon 16:39

what if Teemo coven visited Corki a fam
Mon 16:40

or TF was killed by witch?
Brand Mon 16:40

What if Corki is an Alchemist at Kass suggested and he turned himself into something that doesn't visit?
Varus Mon 16:40

There're many possibilities, but most of them end up with Corki lied
Mon 16:41

Like I said, if Corki is lit, 2 stalkers and a protector are all evils
Mon 16:41

how could it be possible?
Poppy Mon 16:41

I have to agree that Corki lying is a good explanation of many options
Varus Mon 16:41

@Brand: i didnt get your point
Poppy Mon 16:42

But still...
Varus Mon 16:42

so by somehow Kass knew Corki was an alchemist?
Brand Mon 16:42

The only other reasonable explanation I can give is that Lux(-was-Varus) is Shaman and Varus(-was-Lux) is Familiar Stalker turned VM
Varus Mon 16:42

wasn't that too much?
Brand Mon 16:43

I don't see how else all these pieces fit together
Varus Mon 16:43

simple, Corki lied, me and varus (now lux) both lit
Mon 16:43

Poppy
Mon 16:44

I confirmed your check in N3, then you turned up to sus me before. Now you confirmed Varus (now Lux) last night, now you sus him
Mon 16:44

what's wrong with you?
Mon 16:44

*I stated your check
Poppy Mon 16:49

Okay, maybe I go looking for the difficult explanations where simpler suffice
Mon 16:49

I just don't like ending up being deceived and seeing that I was outplayed by a team of evils :P
Corki Mon 16:50

it not simple lol, seems complicated to me tho
Varus Mon 16:51

You're claiming 2 of the most powerful roles in this game liars.
Poppy Mon 16:51

Okay, I'm convinced. But I want to make a small play out of this
Corki Mon 16:51

most powerful?
Poppy Mon 16:51

Please bear with me
Varus Mon 16:51

waiting...
Corki Mon 16:52

im an useless if nobody come to me
Poppy Mon 16:52

I want Brand + Lux + Varus + one other on Corki as votes
Mon 16:52

We'll have 4 votes on Corki, 3 on Graves
Corki Mon 16:52

i think i will change vote from Grave to lux- now- varus
Varus Mon 16:52

we have 8
Corki Mon 16:53

my vote now on Grave
Mon 16:53

but Varus will be a better lynch for me
Poppy Mon 16:53

@Varus: I'm not sure everyone will vote.
Moderator Mon 16:53

Corki votes to lynch Varus
Poppy Mon 16:53

Buit yes, if we can do either 4-4 on Graves and Corki
Varus Mon 16:53

We can't make it even
Corki Mon 16:54

what do you wanna do Poppy?
Moderator Mon 16:54

Poppy votes to lynch Corki
Moderator Mon 16:54

Poppy votes to lynch Graves
Corki Mon 16:54

and 1 more thing
Mon 16:55

there's no reason if i confirm Poppy visiting but ignoring another
Poppy Mon 16:55

There is
Mon 16:55

It's always possible
Varus Mon 16:55

you didnt know Varus (lux) visited you
Mon 16:56

and you threw shades on me last night
Corki Mon 16:56

lol because she/he did not
Mon 16:56

and because you did not too
Varus Mon 16:56

actually the village wanted to lynch you for many previous night, but we didnt because there was a better lynch
Corki Mon 16:56

of i must ask MOd for your fucking visit
Mon 16:57

erhhhh maybe he forgot you
Mon 16:57

and you are always thow shade on me. all the time
Varus Mon 16:57

You mean that I visited you, but you didnt recieve the message?
Corki Mon 16:57

why i cant do that
Mon 16:57

oohhhh
Mon 16:58

i didn't mean that
Varus Mon 16:58

sounds like u did
Corki Mon 16:58

i mean should i ask mod if he forgot
Varus Mon 16:58

you can if you want
Corki Mon 16:58

erhhh.... but i dont think that's the gud idea
Mon 16:58

you lied xD
Varus Mon 16:58

you should ask if Varus visited you too
Corki Mon 16:59

he did not
Mon 16:59

well why you try to protect him?
Mon 16:59

are you two on the same side?
Varus Mon 16:59

because you are throwing shades on both of us. And we are sure that you're evils because we really visited you
Mon 17:00

I told you there was a circle
Corki Mon 17:00

well, you are Both Threw Shade On me first
Varus Mon 17:00

Me -> Poppy -> Varus
Corki Mon 17:00

and because i really did sleep well that night you said you came
Mon 17:01

btw
Poppy Mon 17:01

@Varus: what is that last circle?
Varus Mon 17:01

I don't think I need to explain about it anymore. It's too obvious
Mon 17:01

Poppy, I said above. I confirmed you, you confirmed Varus
Poppy Mon 17:01

Ah like that, I thought you meant we did it in the same night
Varus Mon 17:02

No, just too lazy to type those all
Mon 17:02

what's your plan anw? I didnt get it?
Corki Mon 17:02

what if varus was fam, and now become VM
Mon 17:02

Ez .... return
Mon 17:02

or sth like that
Varus Mon 17:02

how could a fam visited his-self, unless Poppy lied
Corki Mon 17:03

i did confirm the night varus visited TF
Mon 17:03

i stalked once
Varus Mon 17:03

did your fam told you so?
Mon 17:03

wait, that's right, Poppy
Mon 17:03

I've got it
Corki Mon 17:04

erh maybe but if so, i will kill you first
Mon 17:04

xD
Mon 17:04

fam stalker can visit himself
Varus Mon 17:04

Oh no, nothing, nvm
Corki Mon 17:04

i think so
Varus Mon 17:05

Nope, pretty sure they can't
Mon 17:05

pp asked about it before
Mon 17:05

Poppy?
Poppy Mon 17:06

What?
Varus Mon 17:06

what's your plan?
Poppy Mon 17:06

Not sure. Stack votes on Corki
Varus Mon 17:07

It's weird
Mon 17:07

I see two votes on me, but when I point at it, Lux, Zi and Corki voted on me
Mon 17:07

@MOD:? pls check
Moderator Mon 17:08

Varus votes to lynch Graves
Moderator Mon 17:08

Varus votes to lynch Corki
Corki Mon 17:09

i gotta sleep now
Varus Mon 17:09

Good night Corki
Corki Mon 17:09

make your own decision, Poppy
Mon 17:10

gud nite Varus/Lux
Mon 17:10

xD
Varus Mon 17:13

I'll get myself something to eat, brb
Poppy Mon 17:13

Ideally: Brand, Lux, Varus, Graves - vote for Corki. All others: vote for Graves.
Mon 17:13

and I can still decide to not vote for Graves if I want 4/3 on Corki
Mon 17:14

(I mean 4 on Corki, 3 on Graves)
Varus Mon 17:14

Some of them don't active this time, Poppy
Mon 17:14

I still have 3 votes on me (showing as 2)
Poppy Mon 17:15

Yeah, that's strange
Mon 17:15

Mmz, okay, whatever we do, I want only Corki and Grave to be at risk for lynching
Varus Mon 17:15

....because of puppets? I don;t think so. Gotta go, see you guys later
Moderator Mon 17:31

Brand votes to lynch Corki
Brand Mon 17:31

I'm cooking, so I'll read up in a little while
Mon 17:32

I hope you know what you're doing, Poppy ;)
Moderator Mon 18:01

Poppy votes to lynch Corki
Poppy Mon 18:02

My vote is counted double, but at least we're on 3 for Corki now
Mon 18:39

Hello? Anybody here?
Mon 18:40

I need somebody to step in here for the votes. It seems we're actually balanced right now
Mon 18:44

This way, we can at least test for puppetry among Corki or Lux(-Varus), which is informative to me as well. But worst-case we lose Lux-Varus, which is something we should avoid, I think.
Moderator Mon 18:57

3 votes on Varus, 2 on Corki, 2 on Graves
Brand Mon 19:03

Hmm
Mon 19:03

I don't think I can help
Poppy Mon 19:12

Nope, you can only make it worse now
Graves Mon 19:45

hi all i havent been well recently but i felt bad for not helping so i will quickly read the day but if someone can summary it that would be good
Poppy Mon 19:48

We were discussing who were evil, there was a theory presented by me Lux and Varus were evil (they are Djinn-swapped, they claim), while another theory was presented that Corki is evil.
Mon 19:48

Corki being evil corresponds with visits by Lux and Varus not being visible to Corki, who claims to be Insomniac.
Mon 19:49

We've made the decision to lynch Corki
Mon 19:49

Your vote on Corki is most welcome
Graves Mon 19:49

ok i havent believed corki for a while but is the only thing for lux and varus a djinn swap
Poppy Mon 19:49

No, it's also about the visits Corki didn't see, his weak claim back as a Stalker
Mon 19:50

and some general apperances, I guess
Mon 19:50

(Not sure if I understood your question correctly)
Graves Mon 19:50

i think you did i will vote corki for now but i will read day and see if i change my mind
Moderator Mon 19:50

Graves votes to lynch Corki
Graves Mon 19:58

i am happy with my vote today so i will leave it on corki
Lynched Mon 20:00

Corki was lynched by the village

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