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Orianna Sat 08:02

Noooo Lucian
Poppy Sat 08:02

That's funny
Sat 08:03

Vi, why did you visit Lucian?
Moderator Sat 08:03

Poppy votes to lynch Vi
Orianna Sat 08:03

Oh no
Sat 08:03

I guess it was Vi after all
Poppy Sat 08:04

Yes, definitely
Orianna Sat 08:04

Last night was so lonely only me Lucian
Poppy Sat 08:05

Yeah, masons have been decimated. You're the last one standing
Sat 08:06

And first recruit, ha
Orianna Sat 08:06

What do yu mean by that?
Sat 08:06

Oh yeh lol
Poppy Sat 08:06

I do wonder why Vi went for a kill. Probably she had no recruit left...
Orianna Sat 08:07

Yeh it would be more ideal if she recuit Lucian
Poppy Sat 08:07

Still, she would've been seen visiting `illegally`
Orianna Sat 08:07

Cause she is a mason
Sat 08:07

She cant recuite
Poppy Sat 08:08

But then it would be at least 2 masons vouching for each other
Orianna Sat 08:10

True if she recuited someone in the mason the masons would vouch each orther
Sat 08:11

Anyway her yesterday code was wrong
Vi Sat 08:11

Still busy
Sat 08:11

Orianna, what tze code
Orianna Sat 08:11

Hey look like i am the last lit here ;)
Sat 08:12

Right guys?
Moderator Sat 08:13

Vi votes to lynch Orianna
Vi Sat 08:13

Please verify
Orianna Sat 08:14

Hey i am the only one lit here not you
Sat 08:14

The code was snake for me
Sat 08:14

Yesterday your code was leaves not chanderliers
Sat 08:15

Looks like you have to go to anorther game and start over ;)
Vi Sat 08:15

ok Oriannas Not lit
Moderator Sat 08:15

Orianna votes to lynch Vi
Orianna Sat 08:15

Hey hey sush... sush...
Poppy Sat 08:15

Hi there, Vi
Vi Sat 08:15

Abd
Poppy Sat 08:15

You got anything to say about my accusation?
Orianna Sat 08:16

I am the ONLY ONE who is lit here in this game ;)
Vi Sat 08:16

And obviously Poppy isn't either
Sat 08:17

One day of and suddenly your most trusted players turn evil
Orianna Sat 08:17

No no no Vi body is not lit mine is lit
Vi Sat 08:20

I think Orianna is Sona
Sat 08:21

I'll go back catch up on yesterday
Poppy Sat 08:23

Okay!
Sat 08:23

(I hope Lux joins in to confirm my stalk, that will be helpful)
Sat 08:24

By the way, I had a cheeky peek at the vote count yesterday right before nightfall, and it seemed to be a draw between Vi and Ahri. But I guess this was already recognized by you, right?
Sat 08:32

OK I went through the vote counts, and I confirm: 1 vote for TwistedFate, 4 for Vi, 5 for Ahri. So no puppets on Ahri indeed...
Sat 08:32

(and there was no draw)
Orianna Sat 08:37

But that was a fake code :/ wish Lucian is here to comfirmed
Moderator Sat 09:12

Zilean votes to lynch Vi
Zilean Sat 09:12

Vi tried to be late yesterday so Lucian and Orianna couldn't confirm the code
Sat 10:39

I think it's time to solve the 3 revivers thing
Moderator Sat 11:08

Varus votes to lynch Vi
Varus Sat 11:09

I'm outside, be here later
Brand Sat 13:22

Ah man, weekends are always quiet but I was expecting a bit more from folks today
Sat 13:23

Varus, when you get back you need to tell us if you protected Lucian yesterday
Moderator Sat 13:43

Teemo votes to lynch Vi
Teemo Sat 13:44

What's up
Varus Sat 15:20

I didn't protect lucian last night
Sat 15:20

there is a flood at my place, excuse my inactivity
Lux Sat 16:16

Poppy, you are my soulmate <3
Moderator Sat 16:16

Lux votes to lynch Vi
Lux Sat 16:18

Just in case you guys don't understand. I checked Vi, she visited Lucian.
Sat 16:19

I thought Poppy would check Vi too. But just in case one of us could got killed at night. Better safe
Sat 16:20

Tomorrow pls wait for me, I think it's fair for me to state my check first, Poppy.
Sat 16:21

Where is TF? Did he say his check?
Sat 16:23

Varus, can you list your targets from N1? You can keep last night as secret if you want.
Brand Sat 16:36

Varus, what about N5?
Corki Sat 16:52

erhhh
Sat 16:53

well I was unable to sleep last night
Sat 16:53

:(
Moderator Sat 16:54

Corki votes to lynch Vi
Brand Sat 16:59

Corki?
Sat 16:59

Please clarify, because that sounds like you're claiming insomniac
Corki Sat 17:15

erh... im so confusing now
Sat 17:16

i got a message
Sat 17:16

someone visited me last9
Sat 17:16

p.O
Varus Sat 17:21

n1 lucian, n2 myself, n3 poppy, n4 twistedfate, n5 myself
Sat 17:22

you could turn insomniac when you're purged, corki
Sat 17:22

maybe you could just say who it was
Sat 17:23

@brand, I guarded poppy the night he died, not the night after, I saw your old message seeing that you got my list wrong
Sat 17:23

how do I exactly guard someone who's dead at that current night anyway
Sat 17:24

anyway, this is my last check, see you all
Sat 17:24

not coming back today
Corki Sat 17:33

it was jhin
Sat 17:33

but i only got messages last9
Sat 17:33

the night before there's nothing
Sat 17:34

but ... somebody said that they visited me... i cant remember
Sat 17:34

erhhhh
Sat 17:35

if i turned into insomniac, i think i might get the message right after i get purged
Twistedfate Sat 18:01

Guys! Ahri was VM!
Lux Sat 18:04

Wow. Well done TF <3
Sat 18:05

Corki. What was the message you recived?
Sat 18:06

Was that Jihn visited you? Or You were visitef by Jhin?
Sat 18:07

Varus, did you protect Corki last night?
Poppy Sat 18:11

@Lux: sounds good, you go first tmw. Insomniac Corki and Jhin sleepwalker could be an explanation for this event...
Brand Sat 18:14

Well, hopefully we're lynching the last VM so it probably doesn't matter now
Sat 18:14

Oh wait
Sat 18:14

I missed some chat
Sat 18:15

Ugh, I'm worried now
Sat 18:15

Why would VM(s) not have killed N5?
Sat 18:16

We could assume he/she/it/they hit protection, but that would mean Varus and yet he/she/it/they killed Lucian the next night
Sat 18:17

Why would they target Varus, fail to kill and then decide to change to someone else the following night...
Sat 18:24

Also, Ahri VM really doesn't make sense to me
Sat 18:24

Familiar would make sense, VM really doesn't
Sat 18:28

I'm just gonna say this explicitly because I cba with anyone suggesting that I'm only implying it: right now, I DO NOT want to lynch Vi
Sat 18:29

I'm just on my way home from a workshop, hopefully people will be around before nightfall to discuss this
Poppy Sat 18:48

Brand, I'm a bit busy, so I'll be brief. I think there are two separate issues here. Lux and I both visited Vi.and saw.her go to Lucian. So that's clear sign for evil. Then we have TFs claim, which is another thing...
Twistedfate Sat 18:56

Why doesn't VM make sense, Brand?
Sat 18:58

If Ahri was the last recruit, then Ahri wasn't Ahri anymore, she was Sona, who was whomever jumped into Sona (Pretty sure that's Kass, so Ez. . .) So what's the issue?
Sat 19:01

Starting to think Brand is an enemy here, with his reluctance yesterday to vote for Vi,and again today. Brand could be fam, which means if w lynch Vi, he'll be the new VM
Sat 19:03

So now the question is, do we try to lynch a fam first, or go for the vm and let them hop?
Sat 19:04

Of course, there's no difinitive proof that Brand is fam, either
Sat 19:04

Might just be overly cautious
Brand Sat 19:06

Let me log in to my PC and I'll try to explain
Sat 19:06

Okay, so
Sat 19:07

I'm probably overthinking this, but Twisted, Poppy, Lux, etc - please remember I haven't seen the things you have with my own eyes, so I weight all of those things lower than the "facts" that I've seen
Sat 19:08

And by "facts", I mean things that have happened publicly (although, I'll conceed that they're possibly open to interpretation)
Sat 19:08

So, let's start with Fact #1: Sona was unable to give the mason code on D5
Sat 19:09

Vi /was/ able to give the code on D5, as was Ahri (iirc)
Sat 19:09

(might be wrong about Ahri, need to double check - it's not fully relevant for my point)
Sat 19:10

So, Fact #2: Vi publicly announced Sona's codeword the same day that Sona was unable to provide it
Sat 19:10

this could be coincidence, but honestly, looking back I don't think so... In hindsight the whole situation to me appears staged by Vi to give her an excuse to help Sona out
Twistedfate Sat 19:11

We know that sona and Vi would be on opposing vamp teams, though
Brand Sat 19:11

Fact #3: (okay, this is less "fact", more "strong suspicion") If Sona and Vi were on different Fam teams, Vi couldn't know Sona was a Fam
Twistedfate Sat 19:11

They don't all work together, I believe
Brand Sat 19:12

well, sorry, if Sona was VM at that point
Sat 19:12

because we assume that Sona was the reborn vampire (of Kass, I think?)
Twistedfate Sat 19:12

Yes, that's right
Brand Sat 19:12

so the only was Vi would know Sona was VM was if Sona recruited her
Twistedfate Sat 19:13

But who said Sona didn't speak first, Lucian or Vi?
Brand Sat 19:13

uh, not sure - might need to check back
Twistedfate Sat 19:13

Vi could have simply taken the lead from Lucian if he said it first, and assumed that Sona was some sort of vamp
Brand Sat 19:13

but the point I'm trying to get at is - in this whole chain of events, where does Ahri being VM come in?
Twistedfate Sat 19:13

Ahri was recruited by Sona
Sat 19:14

The last recruit of that VM line
Brand Sat 19:14

Can't be, Sona had to recruit Vi
Twistedfate Sat 19:14

No
Brand Sat 19:14

for reasons I just explained above
Twistedfate Sat 19:14

There are 2 VMs
Brand Sat 19:14

otherwise Vi couldn't know Sona was VM, and even if she did why would VI try to save /the other VM/?
Twistedfate Sat 19:14

I just told you that Vi, like the rest of us, could easily assume based on Lucian saying Sona didn't speak
Sat 19:15

I don't think she tried to save her
Brand Sat 19:15

You think it was coincidence that she blurted out the codeword in chat?
Twistedfate Sat 19:15

Possibly
Sat 19:15

People have been blurting all kinds of craziness in this game
Sat 19:15

Look, Ahri is VM
Sat 19:16

100%
Brand Sat 19:16

okay, so next step then, if Ahri was one VM and Vi is the second... where have all the kills been the last two nights?
Twistedfate Sat 19:16

Pretty sure you were 1 recruit
Sat 19:16

Not sure about the other
Sat 19:16

No kill should = recruit
Brand Sat 19:17

yes, I agree
Twistedfate Sat 19:17

or maybe strategy to make us think there's an extra recruit
Sat 19:17

or VM missed a night
Sat 19:17

We could have a fairly inactive VM, but 2 people saw Vi visit lucian
Sat 19:17

NOW, it's possible that poppy and lux are both vm/fam
Brand Sat 19:18

but we had: N2 -> two recruits, N3 -> at least one recruit?, N4 -> two recruits, N5 -> ???
Sat 19:18

there should only have been at most one recruit left, N5, but two VMs still alive
Sat 19:18

(ugh, I need to brb!)
Twistedfate Sat 19:19

I'm going to guess that ahri was not happy with being recruited/turning vm, and just gave up, honestly
Sat 19:20

Is there a limit on recruits? Is it 3?
Vi Sat 19:21

Coven's making a move
Twistedfate Sat 19:22

Can you elaborate, Vi?
Brand Sat 19:25

Back
Sat 19:25

Yes, pretty sure the limit is three
Vi Sat 19:26

The stalkers banding together to make me look suspicious
Brand Sat 19:26

Vi, why did you try and save Sona t'other day?
Sat 19:27

VM1: Ez -> Kass -> Sona -> Ahri ?
Sat 19:28

VM2: Liss -> ? -> ? -> Vi ?
Vi Sat 19:28

I didn't try to save Sona
Brand Sat 19:28

so you just figured blurting out another mason's codeword in chat was a sensible thing to do?
Sat 19:29

Like, even if I believe you mixed up Ori and Sona's codewords, you didn't need to then point out that "direwolf" was Sona's
Sat 19:29

you could have just said "oh, yeah, I'm wrong my mistake" or something
Vi Sat 19:29

I thought that Orianna wasn't herself
Twistedfate Sat 19:30

But why say the specific word for Sona?
Sat 19:30

Vi, this looks bad for you
Vi Sat 19:30

In hindsight, it was stupid - but it's just what I thought
Brand Sat 19:31

Twisted, my list above is wrong - Liss *can't* be VM2 because she'd have had no chance to recruit before we lynched her
Sat 19:31

so, I'll conceed you might be right if you can give me any possible chain of people that gets VM1 into Ahri and VM2 into Vi
Sat 19:32

that's all I need to trust you D:
Twistedfate Sat 19:40

Sorry, i was looking back at stuff, and I'm afraid I have some issues I need to work through on all of this, and I need everyone to pitch in
Sat 19:41

There couldn't have been any recruiting until N4
Sat 19:41

There were 2 night kills all other days
Sat 19:41

Is there any way that's untrue?
Sat 19:42

all other days prior*
Sat 19:42

VM is only killing role, yes?
Sat 19:43

So how was Ez VM and recruited Kass?
Sat 19:44

Kass was lynched the day before the first recruit was possible
Sat 19:44

(day of)
Brand Sat 19:44

Twisted
Twistedfate Sat 19:44

Yes
Brand Sat 19:44

N2 -> two miltia shots (Ahri and Ori)
Twistedfate Sat 19:45

Please tell me I messed it up
Sat 19:45

FUCK, thank you
Sat 19:45

I didn't account for militia at all
Brand Sat 19:45

N3 -> Poppy *claims* Veigar visited Poppy and Graves, :. implying Poppy is a witch kill
Twistedfate Sat 19:45

My god
Sat 19:45

Yeah, I totally blocked out militia, I'm so glad
Sat 19:46

And alchemist to witch
Sat 19:46

God damn it, I am so ready for this game to be over
Brand Sat 19:47

My biggest problem is that VM cannot die at night
Twistedfate Sat 19:47

Yeah, that's not really a problem, though
Brand Sat 19:47

so the only people who could have been VMs are: Liss, Ez, Kass, Sona, Ahri
Sat 19:47

because those are the only people we've lynched
Twistedfate Sat 19:48

Viktor was smited
Brand Sat 19:48

and we've had hardly any night deaths, so it's really unlikely any "in between" familiars have died
Twistedfate Sat 19:49

So let's put Viktor in VM ->??->??->Vi
Brand Sat 19:49

oh, true
Sat 19:49

but, no
Sat 19:49

can Viktor have been VM, he was seen visiting Sona?
Sat 19:49

OH, wait
Sat 19:50

do we have the chain wrong?
Sat 19:50

Viktor -> ?? -> Sona -> Vi / Ahri
Twistedfate Sat 19:50

Yeah
Brand Sat 19:50

Ez -> Kass -> ?? -> Vi / Ahri
Sat 19:50

?
Twistedfate Sat 19:51

If Viktor visited Sona, then she was the 1st recruit
Brand Sat 19:51

Poppy saw that... N2?
Sat 19:51

or N3?
Twistedfate Sat 19:51

I guess she could have been second
Brand Sat 19:51

it's so difficult to keep track of the days
Twistedfate Sat 19:51

Viktor was smited N3
Brand Sat 19:51

Poppy died N3 too
Twistedfate Sat 19:51

So had to be N2
Brand Sat 19:51

so, timeline doesn't fit, imho
Sat 19:52

we're pretty certain Sona wasn't recruited N2
Twistedfate Sat 19:52

This fucking game. . .
Brand Sat 19:52

so it'd need to be: Viktor -> ?? -> Sona -> X
Sat 19:52

but the only person who was lynched in between those was Kass
Sat 19:52

so that makes it:
Sat 19:53

Ez -> ?? -> ?? -> X
Sat 19:53

Viktor -> Kass -> Sona -> X
Twistedfate Sat 19:53

What if we put poppy and lux in the top slot
Sat 19:53

It's possible all 3 of them are vamp/fam
Brand Sat 19:54

What'ya mean?
Twistedfate Sat 19:55

Ex - Poppy - Lux (end of line since the one night there was only 1 recruit, also you can switch poppy and lux)
Sat 19:55

Ez*
Brand Sat 19:55

mmh, let me check
Sat 19:55

it'd have to have been: Ez -> Lux -> Poppy
Twistedfate Sat 19:55

And Ahri would be end of the line for slot 2
Brand Sat 19:56

because we lynched Ez the night Poppy died, she couldn't die if she was VM
Twistedfate Sat 19:56

Hmm, okay
Brand Sat 19:56

but, also, then, both Poppy and Lux are still alive
Sat 19:56

oh, hmm, but
Twistedfate Sat 19:56

Right, one is fam, the other is VM
Brand Sat 19:56

yeah, hmm, possible
Twistedfate Sat 19:56

Possible, yes
Sat 19:56

I have no idea how probable
Brand Sat 19:56

Poppy was initially suspicious of Lux, but later Lux "confirmed" her?
Twistedfate Sat 19:57

Now they're buddies
Sat 19:57

But we could also put you and Vi in those top slots
Sat 19:57

still that one missing recruit
Brand Sat 19:58

yeah, that one recruit is bugging me
Twistedfate Sat 19:58

You were really kind of adamant about not voting Vi yesterday
Sat 19:58

That does make me distrust you some
Sat 19:58

I really want you to be lit
Sat 19:58

it sucks that you might not be
Brand Sat 19:59

Such is life :<
Twistedfate Sat 19:59

I wanted Kass to be lit, too, though
Sat 19:59

We see how that went
Sat 19:59

Then we have to account for the fucking coven, too
Lynched Sat 20:00

Vi was lynched by the village

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