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There are: 1 Seer, 1 Protector, 2 Gravediggers, 1 Graverobber, 2 Revivers, 3 Stalkers, 2 Militia, 2 MasonLeaders, 1 Djinn, 3 Alchemists, 1 Puppetmaster and 2 VampireMasters.
Lux Sun 18:16

Yay
Sun 18:16

Finally
Sun 18:16

This theme
Jhin Sun 18:25

O lord.
Teemo Sun 18:33

May I ask what theme this is
Kassadin Sun 18:38

The second best Moba
Teemo Sun 18:43

Whats the first best
Sun 18:43

lol I mean whats the best
Twistedfate Sun 19:07

Lot of themes I don't know, lately
Teemo Sun 19:12

oh alright
Maokai Sun 19:13

Supp ma dudes
Sun 19:13

I approve this theme
Teemo Sun 19:13

heyy
Killed Mon 08:00

Maokai was killed during the night
Killed Mon 08:00

Graves was killed during the night
Corki Mon 08:02

hi
Jhin Mon 08:14

Morning.
Kassadin Mon 08:16

Hello
Veigar Mon 08:17

Good morning everyone
Kassadin Mon 08:18

Can we agree that Maokai was killed for approving LoL? So LoL is bad kids ok?
Ahri Mon 08:32

well 2 kills, so looks like both VMs haven't recruited yet?
Mon 08:32

or maybe ML fails to recruit
Varus Mon 08:36

I demand a mason recruit 2nite
Sona Mon 08:36

What happens if you're recruited by two masons?
Varus Mon 08:37

I become god?
Sona Mon 08:37

I think that the chance that a Mason Leader hits a Vampire Master is quite low
Kassadin Mon 08:37

why?
Sona Mon 08:37

(No math pleeease)
Kassadin Mon 08:37

And why would 2 mason leaders recruit the same person?
Varus Mon 08:37

Do vamp kill if he recruit cov?
Kassadin Mon 08:38

yes
Mon 08:38

all evil
Sona Mon 08:38

What if Varus's is a Vampire Master?
Kassadin Mon 08:38

he becomes god
Mon 08:38

well he kinda already would be god.
Varus Mon 08:38

mason recruit me to prove it
Moderator Mon 08:38

Kassadin votes to lynch Varus
Kassadin Mon 08:39

Cool down.
Varus Mon 08:39

grant me some juicy nite chat
Sona Mon 08:39

You're trying to waste our Mason Leaders, admit it xD
Kassadin Mon 08:39

he's attention whoring worse than Trump.
Moderator Mon 08:39

Varus votes to lynch Lucian
Varus Mon 08:39

asv
Kassadin Mon 08:40

Next he'll tell us he got the best checks.
Mon 08:40

I for once welcome our new vampire overlords
Sona Mon 08:40

Qit h a net wo erg of over 10B Dollars
Mon 08:41

Uhm.... my cat
Kassadin Mon 08:41

My blood is tasty and my soul is willing.
Varus Mon 08:41

quiet nites are boring
Kassadin Mon 08:43

I can foresee Varus fate already
Mon 08:43

N2: Purged, Recruited by Mason, recruited by Vamp, becomes GD.
Mon 08:43

visited by all the roles
Varus Mon 08:44

yeh, gimmie some interesting nite
Kassadin Mon 08:44

N3: shot by militia
Mon 08:44

sry your story ends there.
Varus Mon 08:45

doubt militia would just shoot someone for being awesome and partying
Mon 08:46

seriously tho, I wouldn't have asked for mason recruit if I weren't worth it
Mon 08:46

watch me get djinn swapped
Kassadin Mon 08:46

I wouldn't have asked for a vamp recruit if I weren't worth it.
Mon 08:47

watch me get seer checked
Varus Mon 08:47

I think we should lynch since two vamps technically have eight lives
Sona Mon 08:48

The alchemists are a pretty good reason to not say what Varus said
Kassadin Mon 08:48

I agree sona. And seers are a good reason to not say what I said.
Mon 08:48

I'm thinking about a day 2 role call...
Mon 08:49

because:
Mon 08:49

They may take away our ROLES, but they'll never take our FREEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
Mon 08:50

also bonus fact.
Mon 08:50

if we get ppl. to claim now, recruited people will struggle with their claims
Varus Mon 08:50

claiming revivers might be an equivalent to villager in this setup
Kassadin Mon 08:50

Like if I claim MIlitia now, and then I get recruited and become fam stalker, how the fuck do I shoot someone
Mon 08:51

or with 3 stalkers now, if all reveal, and one becomes GD after vamp recruit. Tough luck
Varus Mon 08:51

the vamp shoots for you, obviously
Kassadin Mon 08:51

that's not a bonus kill
Mon 08:51

people will notice
Varus Mon 08:51

say that vamp recruited?
Mon 08:51

protection?
Ahri Mon 08:51

can VM choose which type the familiar would their recruit become?
Kassadin Mon 08:52

no
Varus Mon 08:52

no
Kassadin Mon 08:52

it's random
Ahri Mon 08:52

ok
Kassadin Mon 08:52

ps. Vamps don't recruit me. I can't bear the stress.
Varus Mon 08:53

if mason recruits me, you see, I'll struggle when vamp recruits me
Kassadin Mon 08:53

Why do I never hear the cheering and stuff when I suggest a Day 2 rolecall?
Ahri Mon 08:53

total role call D2, maybe a bit crazy, but may be good idea to counter the mass-recruitments
Varus Mon 08:54

vamp got eight, coven got five plus puppets, I think we should just d2 lynch
Kassadin Mon 08:54

I honestly think town is fucked this game.
Ahri Mon 08:54

shall we just signal that who wants to join, then wait if there're enough ppl that joins the role call then all reveal?
Kassadin Mon 08:54

that's why I go for the crazy play.
Varus Mon 08:55

we got plenty diggers
Kassadin Mon 08:55

yo fuck Diggers
Mon 08:55

diggers don't catch shit
Mon 08:55

every time I'm wolf I just ignore them mostly.
Sona Mon 08:55

We need to get the evils to target each other
Kassadin Mon 08:55

you wanna ask them Nicely Sona?
Mon 08:56

"pretty please"
Sona Mon 08:56

Moderator Sun 17:58 There are: 1 Seer, 1 Protector, 2 Gravediggers, 1 Graverobber, 2 Revivers, 3 Stalkers, 2 Militia, 2 MasonLeaders, 1 Djinn, 3 Alchemists, 1 Puppetmaster and 2 VampireMasters.
Mon 08:56

Why not?
Kassadin Mon 08:57

well VM's could wipe out coven
Mon 08:57

still 2 vm's
Varus Mon 08:57

vamps do wanna kill each other
Sona Mon 08:57

the Vampire Masters alao play against each other
Kassadin Mon 08:58

yeah but everyone else gets thrown under the bus
Sona Mon 08:58

How do the Alchemist interact with the Vampires/Familiars?
Kassadin Mon 08:58

I think super early role claim is THE way to bust vm's
Varus Mon 08:58

so, in conclusion, mason recruit me, bye
Kassadin Mon 08:59

No idea, never happened before
Ahri Mon 08:59

anyone minds me? The total role call is only effective if there're many enough ppl join, but ppl hesitate to start first
Kassadin Mon 08:59

can we just lynch Varus
Mon 08:59

he pisses me off.
Ahri Mon 08:59

so how about those who want to join role call just signal that he wants to join
Mon 08:59

then if enough ppl signal, all claim
Varus Mon 08:59

fams and vamps are immune to alchs
Kassadin Mon 09:00

hey you finally said something which didn't include the words "recruit" or "mason", maybe you're not that annoying after all
Sona Mon 09:01

I don't think that we'll catch the Alchemist in an early rolecall
Kassadin Mon 09:01

Look Mason is like Dating, you don't approach a girl and say "marry me, I got a big D* and I'm wealthy"
Mon 09:01

well you maybe do, but then... oh well
Mon 09:01

FML I suck at dating.
Sona Mon 09:01

There are Coven and Puppets to consider- and players that don't show up
Kassadin Mon 09:02

well then we start with the people not showing up.
Sona Mon 09:02

I don't think that we'll catch the Vampire Master is an early rolecall
Kassadin Mon 09:02

easy enough
Mon 09:03

It's not about catching a VM, it's about catching future fams
Mon 09:03

because their roles change
Mon 09:03

if you're GD, you get recruited and you become fam milita, gooooood luck giving those GD checks
Mon 09:04

Honestly I think this game is lost if we just sit here today
Sona Mon 09:04

Don't we expose ourselves?
Ahri Mon 09:06

there would be fams that will then shout out like "hey alchemist has reset my role" but we can still narrow down the list
Kassadin Mon 09:06

At the moment it's 14 Village vs 4+2 coven vs 2 VM. Tomorrow if could be 12 vs 10 and so on.
Mon 09:06

also alchs are fucked at roleclaiming
Mon 09:06

what the heck you claim as alc?
Mon 09:07

you don't even know what you become
Mon 09:07

good luck with that.
Sona Mon 09:07

Familiars losing their abilities will claim to have been purged
Ahri Mon 09:07

i've just realized that there're 3 alchemists :(
Kassadin Mon 09:07

I already said goodbye to my role. But idgaf, I wanna win this game by having a plan.
Mon 09:09

we need a plan vs 2 vm's else we're done.
Mon 09:14

Also some note of caution for a GR. Alchemist is one of the few coven roles you can actually rob.
Mon 09:16

So if you wanna end up in some weird witch circle good luck with that. I don't think you want to be coven this round.
Ahri Mon 09:17

the current rate is 13 village vs 8 evils
Kassadin Mon 09:17

13?
Mon 09:17

did I misscount?
Ahri Mon 09:17

21-8?
Mon 09:18

if no coven was killed last night
Kassadin Mon 09:18

oh i see
Ahri Mon 09:18

so with VM recruits, village will quickly lose just by being outnumbered
Kassadin Mon 09:18

my point :)
Mon 09:18

we need to do something fast.
Ahri Mon 09:19

ok then just push the total role call
Mon 09:19

signal the #iclaim if you want to join
Kassadin Mon 09:19

oh hashtags!
Ahri Mon 09:20

and remember to check back at least before today ends
Kassadin Mon 09:20

I just hope I wont get a shitstorm afterwards :D
Ahri Mon 09:20

you'll get shits anw in this game :D
Mon 09:20

#iclaim
Kassadin Mon 09:20

I think if we get about half of the claims stuff is good. rest can just f off, or be lynched, or have some solid evidence for your claim.
Ahri Mon 09:20

let's do something crazy
Kassadin Mon 09:21

#iclaim #blacklivesmatter #feminism
Mon 09:21

oh boy how got the last two tags in there?
Sona Mon 09:26

If we reveal the roles, Vampires will recruit villagers and kill coven
Kassadin Mon 09:27

so, what does change compared to the current situation?
Mon 09:27

you're aware that exactly this happens anyway?
Mon 09:27

Since you can't recruit coven they die
Mon 09:29

So I think there is already a high chance one of the dudes in the grave is actually coven.
Mon 09:29

after 174, I'm doubt anyone wants to pull of a SoFasttt VM here.
Sona Mon 09:30

They would be more likely to recruit covens
Kassadin Mon 09:30

would they?
Mon 09:30

So you assume no coven will claim anything?
Sona Mon 09:31

I assume that it will be easier to distinguish coven from Villager
Kassadin Mon 09:32

what annoys me a bit about this setup is that coven is 100% useless vs a VM
Mon 09:33

Djinn: who gives a shit, Witch: useless, Alchemist: useless, Shaman: useless, Succu: useless, PM: useless
Mon 09:34

Coven in this game can only mess up village.
Moderator Mon 09:34

Kassadin votes to lynch Lucian
Sona Mon 09:34

Pm is as usefell as he's normally
Kassadin Mon 09:34

yeah true
Sona Mon 09:35

I wonder if the coven should weaken the village
Kassadin Mon 09:35

But you get my point right?
Mon 09:36

I also agree with your concerns about an early role claim. But I would like to hear an alternative from you.
Sona Mon 09:36

good news, we don't have to lynch Familiars
Kassadin Mon 09:36

?
Sona Mon 09:36

We can have the other Vamp kill them
Kassadin Mon 09:36

So which vamp team are you?
Mon 09:36

Red or Blue?
Mon 09:37

I mean, it's rly rly cool that vamps kill each others fams, but how does this make village win this round?
Sona Mon 09:37

Wolf or Mason?
Kassadin Mon 09:37

Wolf?
Sona Mon 09:38

Nvm
Kassadin Mon 09:38

I mean your point is like two different Alien factions invading earth and you say "cool aliens will kill aliens"
Mon 09:39

yeah right they do, but on a sidenote they just fking wreck humanity.
Sona Mon 09:39

pretty much
Mon 09:40

So you're saying the faster we eliminate the Vampires, the better our chances
Kassadin Mon 09:42

No but I see familiars as infected humans. And I try to detected when they are infected
Mon 09:43

for me the only big weakness about vm recruits is that they have a random chance for 3 roles
Mon 09:43

all 3 roles are in the game too.
Mon 09:43

So when we don't claim early those later claims will blend in
Mon 09:43

and we have no chance of catching them
Mon 09:44

If I'm Militia now, I get recruited tonight, there's a roleclaim day 4, nobody will ever know I was actually Militia and not GD.
Sona Mon 09:45

Another thing to consider is the lack of Protection
Kassadin Mon 09:45

but if I claim militia now, and I'm asked to shoot ... Twisted day 4, and I can't shoot him stuff gets more complicated for vamps.
Sona Mon 09:45

We can be certain that we won't get more than 2 Seer results this way
Kassadin Mon 09:46

seer results mean shit this game
Mon 09:46

I get seer checked n2, recruited n3
Mon 09:46

GG
Sona Mon 09:46

Shit or everything?
Kassadin Mon 09:46

they are pretty much useless in the long run
Sona Mon 09:47

They are still nice to have
Kassadin Mon 09:47

why?
Mon 09:47

If they hit a VM, yay? I guess
Mon 09:47

if they hit anything else well...
Mon 09:47

they get a cookie
Sona Mon 09:47

Because they can tell us who Vampires and Familiars and coven and village are?
Kassadin Mon 09:48

AT THIS MOMENT
Mon 09:48

the whole point about familiars is that they change faction later
Sona Mon 09:49

So the seer is useful later in the game
Kassadin Mon 09:49

No
Mon 09:49

because 1) he wont make it that long, 2) he can be recruited too, 3) he can be purged, 4) he can be militia shot by fam
Mon 09:50

Ok I'll make a list of what I think can win us this game:
Sona Mon 09:50

But the MLs are replacement Seers?
Kassadin Mon 09:50

let me finish
Mon 09:50

1) Masons, we need tons of them, we need all of them.
Mon 09:51

2) very early claims, if we got by the kills nobody got recruited yet. IT'S THE CHANCE
Mon 09:53

If an ML died tonight the other ML should know and consider outing himself today. Because chances are high to catch a VM Day 2.
Mon 09:54

an ML Day 2 for 1 of the two killing roles this game would be a jackpot for us.
Sona Mon 09:54

But the Mod won't get another recruit
Kassadin Mon 09:54

?
Mon 09:55

Mod?
Sona Mon 09:55

How does one ML know whether the second one died?
Mon 09:55

ML
Kassadin Mon 09:55

because they talk to each other?
Sona Mon 09:55

Really?
Kassadin Mon 09:56

there's only 1 mason
Mon 09:56

Trust me.
Sona Mon 09:56

I thought they had 2 independent chats
Kassadin Mon 09:56

nope.
Mon 09:56

you got one mason chat, with all the masons in it.
Mon 09:57

I'm like 75% that Maokai was coven
Mon 09:57

he talked day 1, and then died
Mon 09:58

people like to recruit ppl. who talk day 1 since you want a recruit fast, but if the guy gets smited gg.
Sona Mon 09:58

How does that make him coven?
Kassadin Mon 09:58

I just said it.
Mon 09:58

Coven die if VM wants to recruit them.
Mon 09:59

I see almost no way a VM wouldn't want to recruit n1
Sona Mon 09:59

He wasn't the only on e who talked, so 75% seems like an overestimate
Kassadin Mon 09:59

he's dead.
Sona Mon 09:59

He could be village?!
Kassadin Mon 10:00

We got two vamps who want to recruit night 1.
Mon 10:00

because you want to recruit night 1
Mon 10:00

if you want to win.
Mon 10:00

We got two dead
Sona Mon 10:01

You're right, I'm making no sense xD
Kassadin Mon 10:01

Nah. It's fine.
Sona Mon 10:01

I forgot that coven can't be recruited by the Vampire
Kassadin Mon 10:01

I'm very familiar (ha ha pun) with how Vamp works and what you want to do. So maybe I tihnk one step ahead.
Mon 10:02

I meantion Maokai because he was prominent day 1
Mon 10:02

while Graves seems more random
Mon 10:02

I as vm wouldn't go for grave n1
Mon 10:02

But Maokai would be an option
Sona Mon 10:03

It'd be an obvious recruit, maybe too obvious
Mon 10:03

So are we doing a rolecall?
Mon 10:03

Graves = ML?
Kassadin Mon 10:04

Ahri and me try to gather opinions, if I was able to sell you on my idea. there the #Iclaim hashtag :P
Mon 10:05

Doesn't mean you should claim now. but just to express if you'd join us on this journey.
Sona Mon 10:07

I'm a bit undecided
Moderator Mon 10:07

Sona votes to lynch Warwick
Sona Mon 10:11

What it boils down to for me is: How good are our chaneed to catch a Vampire Master today if we do a rolecall?
Kassadin Mon 10:13

As I said, This is not about catching the vamp, this is about catching their familiars in the future
Sona Mon 10:15

It should be about the Vampire
Ahri Mon 10:16

evils also usually don't dare to fake claim early so we can also narrow down the list by seeing who claim and who don't
Mon 10:16

someone also needs to count the numbers of ppl who have joined
Kassadin Mon 10:16

Sona vamp and familiar are the same team. So it's about vamps
Ahri Mon 10:17

at the moment it's 2, me (Ahri) and Kass
Kassadin Mon 10:17

:/
Mon 10:17

I'm actually a bit depressed right now.
Ahri Mon 10:17

Sona then pls suggest some plan you think is good to be against vampire
Mon 10:18

doing nothing is not
Kassadin Mon 10:18

I think my plan makes kinda sense :/ But probably wont happen since either ppl. don't care, don't understand it or don't agree with me. Although I think I was not bad at adressing Sona's concerns.
Sona Mon 10:19

My question is whether your plan is better than doing nothing
Kassadin Mon 10:19

I saw this as a challenge to beat VM.
Mon 10:19

But I already feel drained...
Ahri Mon 10:19

as I already said, just a few role call is not good, but a total role call may make difference
Mon 10:20

that's why I tell ppl to just signal they join, and if we see there're many enough, we all claim
Kassadin Mon 10:20

yep. But with the current participation we're done.
Ahri Mon 10:20

many ppl don't even want to be online
Kassadin Mon 10:20

This only works today
Sona Mon 10:21

Randomly lynch someone who doesn't show up
Ahri Mon 10:21

this should be effective with at least ~10 ppl i guess
Kassadin Mon 10:21

yep
Mon 10:22

I wonder is Sona is trolling me.
Ahri Mon 10:22

Sona so the question is, if ~10 ppl agree to claim, do you also want to participate?
Kassadin Mon 10:22

I already explained in greath length why normal "stuff" doesn't work vs 2 vm's.
Ahri Mon 10:22

if yes just signal you join, it's no harm
Sona Mon 10:23

If we do a rolecall, we should just start it
Mon 10:24

like now
Kassadin Mon 10:24

we need numbers
Mon 10:24

around 10 to do it.
Ahri Mon 10:24

yes, if there're enough ppl join!
Kassadin Mon 10:24

Else it's a drop in the ocean
Sona Mon 10:24

But it takes time to gather the numbers
Ahri Mon 10:24

oh sry i was looking at the previous cmt and thought it was new
Sona Mon 10:25

Ca we assume that every villager that shows up will claim?
Ahri Mon 10:25

@Sona I already said, if just a few ppl start claiming now it will not effective but put the claimed power roles in danger, and maybe help evils narrow down their targets
Mon 10:26

it only works with a lot of role claim, so I just want commitment!
Sona Mon 10:28

It's d2, not many players will show up
Kassadin Mon 10:28

then they're all idiots and shouldn't play on this site if they don't show up day2.
Ahri Mon 10:34

I really don't get what you afraid of, Sona
Mon 10:34

if you signal you join and ppl don't show up, you lose nothing, we don't claim
Mon 10:34

if many ppl show up and join then we do a total role claim
Mon 10:34

that's simple
Mon 10:35

why do you have to think that much?
Sona Mon 10:37

Messages got eaten
Mon 10:37

I'm ok with the rolecall
Mon 10:39

I have to think so much because we are exposing Seer and Mason Leaders with a severe lack of protection
Mon 10:41

Is that nothing to be afraid of?
Mon 10:42

At least I am afraid of it
Ahri Mon 10:43

if like ~10 role claims at once then risk will be shared among ppl, seer is not the only important role to be the target
Mon 10:45

so are you joining? if you do pls comment the #iclaim hashtag so that others are sure you're committing
Sona Mon 10:46

They are the most important roles
Mon 10:55

I'd like a third voice in this
Ezreal Mon 10:56

Open setup with no vanilla
Mon 10:56

I also think it's a good idea for us to claim as soon as possible
Mon 10:56

there will be conflicts for sure = easier to narrow down list of potential evils
Mon 10:57

how do we deal with it after that though?
Mon 10:58

important intel roles could very well be recruited as fam, or purged
Ahri Mon 10:58

it's not a fixed plan like if A then we do B, if C then we do D
Sona Mon 10:58

Despite 3 Alchemists?
Lucian Mon 10:59

Uh...
Mon 10:59

2 votes on me? :/
Ahri Mon 10:59

just need to push for claims first, or village surely lose
Lucian Mon 10:59

let the roles come out by them self
Mon 10:59

or we can force on day 3
Sona Mon 10:59

Lucian, what do you think about the rolecall?
Lucian Mon 10:59

not day 2
Mon 11:00

I think the role call will get all the intel reviewed and kill
Moderator Mon 11:00

Lucian votes to lynch Brand
Lucian Mon 11:00

ASV
Mon 11:00

so stop plz
Ahri Mon 11:00

zz read the discussion pls
Lucian Mon 11:01

i read it
Mon 11:01

but still dont like that idea
Ahri Mon 11:01

then you prefer to sit still and wait for miracle?
Lucian Mon 11:02

Yes we sit tight and wait for intel to come out by t hem self
Ahri Mon 11:02

like all the vampires and coven only fight each other and let the village live in peace
Lucian Mon 11:02

people can with intel can get kill
Mon 11:02

even when we narrow it
Ahri Mon 11:02

I give up on these people
Lucian Mon 11:02

Thanks
Mon 11:02

Can you remove your role please?
Ahri Mon 11:03

I won't spend my effort on this game anymore
Lucian Mon 11:03

vote*
Mon 11:03

you vote... can it stop staying on me please?
Ahri Mon 11:03

let the village burned
Mon 11:03

not mine
Lucian Mon 11:03

ok
Moderator Mon 11:04

Ahri votes to lynch Sona
Ezreal Mon 11:04

@Ahri it's not that, we need a more solid plan
Mon 11:04

come on
Mon 11:04

don't give up
Lucian Mon 11:05

she problaly just a ran out skill coven so why border? :|
Ezreal Mon 11:05

if we all claim now I fear that we will just give out our seer/prot/stalkers to be turned/purged for free
Lucian Mon 11:06

Yes that is what i think too
Orianna Mon 11:06

Hello
Mon 11:06

Looks like i am late for the party
Sona Mon 11:07

No
Orianna Mon 11:07

I just read up and i argee with Lucian that we shouldnt do a soon role claim
Mon 11:07

Let the intel go by them self
Brand Mon 11:08

I think we should go for the role claim
Mon 11:08

Force evils to commit to something
Moderator Mon 11:08

Orianna votes to lynch Warwick
Orianna Mon 11:08

Balance
Brand Mon 11:08

Honestly, I don't think the village can afford to be passive with this set up
Lucian Mon 11:08

only 1 day
Mon 11:08

dont lose your paiteint
Brand Mon 11:09

Coven are a boon to the village in this game
Mon 11:09

Because they fuck with the chance that the vampires can recruit successfully
Mon 11:10

Vampire recruits a coven = one less evil and no turned villager
Mon 11:10

It's win-win
Mon 11:10

But if village wastes time then the vampire teams get stronger and stronger
Sona Mon 11:11

But the Vampire is unlikely to recruit coven
Brand Mon 11:12

Uh
Mon 11:12

Vampire won't know
Mon 11:12

It's pot luck early game, right?
Mon 11:12

Vampire no more knows who the coven are than we do
Sona Mon 11:13

By claiming we establish who is more likely to be village
Varus Mon 11:14

why do we have a pair of 2s?
Sona Mon 11:14

and those persons are more likely to be recruited
Varus Mon 11:14

if we're balancing on 2, we need at least 4 stacks to prevent puppet snipe
Sona Mon 11:15

The only reason to so a rolecall imo is to lynch a vampkretoday
Mon 11:15

vampire tai
Varus Mon 11:15

if someone moves from warwick, I'll move from lucian
Sona Mon 11:15

today
Moderator Mon 11:16

Sona votes to lynch Ahri
Moderator Mon 11:16

Varus votes to lynch Kassadin
Sona Mon 11:18

I've got to go for now
Varus Mon 11:18

me too
Mon 11:18

was checking back and confused on stacks
Mon 11:18

now bye
Ahri Mon 11:19

ok let me explain all the reasons behind the total role claim one last time
Mon 11:19

with this setup, village is doomed and cannot win by doing normal stuffs
Mon 11:19

VMs will spread out like a disease very quick
Mon 11:20

we need to be very agressive
Mon 11:21

if we have most ppl claimed, we would narrow down the targets alot and scare evils from fake claims
Mon 11:21

we also have 2 militias who can shoot the suspicious ones at night for more agression
Mon 11:22

if you signal you join, you only have to claim if there're enough ppl also claims and it would make difference
Mon 11:23

if there're too few ppl, you lose nothing
Mon 11:23

let's say the bar for total role claim is 13
Mon 11:23

>= 13 ppl join -> all of them claim
Mon 11:23

< 13 ppl -> nothing happens
Mon 11:23

of course THERE IS NO PERFECT PLAN
Mon 11:24

but with that we make more progress and resolve the game quicker, which is necessary in a game with VM
Mon 11:24

the longer the game stays, the stronger the evils will be
Mon 11:24

remember that
Mon 11:26

ah btw, the open setup is good for total claiming, we can verify more easily
Mon 11:26

and evils would be more afraid of fake claiming
Mon 11:26

I repeat, I DON'T BELIEVE VILLAGE CAN WIN THIS BY DOING NORMAL STUFFS
Mon 11:28

let's raise the bar to 15 ppl, is it safer?
Mon 11:29

just commit, if you don't believe there're 15 ppl join then it's no difference
Zilean Mon 11:30

I agree on doing a roleclaim today
Mon 11:30

I'll do it first, Im reviver
Ahri Mon 11:31

oh man
Zilean Mon 11:31

Might got purged tonight so probably Im gonna revive Graves
Ahri Mon 11:32

i mean just join the #iclaim, if there're many enough ppl then we claim, because the indiviual claims could be not effective
Mon 11:32

but ok anw you claimed
Kassadin Mon 11:33

well, it's a good start. I like how Zilean gets the stuff going
Ahri Mon 11:34

Yeah thanks for that
Kassadin Mon 11:35

Ahri we both try to do the #iclaim because we don't wanna force something the majority doesn't want.
Mon 11:35

He wants to claim and he does it :)
Zilean Mon 11:36

Um.....Seems that Im the only one who claimed
Kassadin Mon 11:41

I will later. Don't worry. We just need some more peeps.
Mon 11:41

or well f it. I'm Stalker. If we don't do this today. I gonna rage anyway.
Mon 11:42

BALLZ DEEP
Brand Mon 11:46

Ahri, I agree
Mon 11:46

But we shouldn't do it by half
Kassadin Mon 11:46

that's why I just go for it.
Brand Mon 11:47

We either need decent consent (and maybe those who don't consent are evils?)
Ezreal Mon 12:00

sign
Mon 12:01

It's not the number of ppl who claim or what we lose
Mon 12:01

I concern about the valuable roles, like seer or stalker or prot
Mon 12:01

should they claim as everyone else?
Mon 12:02

that's what I meant by ''a more solid plan''
Mon 12:02

I'm in though #iclaim
Poppy Mon 12:03

I'm in for the role call
Moderator Mon 12:03

Ezreal votes to lynch Karthus
Ezreal Mon 12:03

asv first
Mon 12:03

back later
Poppy Mon 12:06

I suggest we do a pressure on random people, at least until they claim. So we get people to show up and join in? Is that an idea?
Kassadin Mon 12:07

Agreed poppy
Moderator Mon 12:07

Kassadin votes to lynch Karthus
Vi Mon 12:08

Ah....no
Mon 12:08

I'm not in
Mon 12:08

Alchemist baiting game is strong
Moderator Mon 12:09

Vi votes to lynch Lux
Moderator Mon 12:09

Kassadin votes to lynch Vi
Kassadin Mon 12:09

Alchemist baiting game?
Mon 12:09

You actually serious?
Moderator Mon 12:10

Poppy votes to lynch Vi
Poppy Mon 12:10

Vi, 'm not convinced
Mon 12:10

I want you to claim, please
Kassadin Mon 12:10

3/12 roles
Mon 12:10

we got no vanilla
Mon 12:10

every person in this game is something
Vi Mon 12:10

No I don't want to
Poppy Mon 12:11

Can you hint about your role? Is it single-use or every-night-use?
Kassadin Mon 12:11

besides evil will fake claim too. so
Vi Mon 12:11

No?
Poppy Mon 12:11

I want people to narrow down at least
Kassadin Mon 12:12

ww.es is not about power roles, it's about logic and stuff.
Sona Mon 12:12

Why Vi?
Kassadin Mon 12:12

I don't now why ppl. are so worried about their precious roles
Vi Mon 12:12

I don't want to
Poppy Mon 12:12

She's online now, and one of the refusers
Mon 12:12

So I'm going for her
Mon 12:12

and not letting go, I hope Kassadin perseveres with me
Kassadin Mon 12:13

I want to hear some arguments besides "no"
Mon 12:13

and "alchemist bait"
Sona Mon 12:13

Has anyone else claimed yet?
Vi Mon 12:13

If you're not going to make a clearer and safer plan for everyone, I'm not in
Mon 12:13

Right now it's just a baiting game
Kassadin Mon 12:14

uhm, if I'd have a "safer" plan, I'd probably have told it by now. But fuck Alchemist, we got 2 VM's.
Vi Mon 12:14

Okay so here's your flaw
Kassadin Mon 12:14

how can you be concerned about Alchi bait, when we have two killing roles who can recruit up to six people.
Vi Mon 12:16

Assuming all the village roles are telling the truth, we have 8 distinct roles, 5 of them have 2 or more
Poppy Mon 12:16

Alchemists are not interested in getting village roles gone which help against the VMs
Mon 12:16

Coven and village are in this thing together against VM, in this sense at least
Vi Mon 12:16

If I'm evil and I'm coordinated I might just distribute myu bad guys into roles that have many
Lucian Mon 12:16

Vi is lit
Poppy Mon 12:16

How come?
Lucian Mon 12:17

I trust her
Vi Mon 12:17

It will take time to verify all the bunch of stalkers or bunch of militia
Lucian Mon 12:17

#idontclaim
Vi Mon 12:17

When all the unique role die one by one or purged
Mon 12:17

Now, how's your plan work out eh?
Lucian Mon 12:17

only 1 claim
Mon 12:18

and you didnt even claim?
Mon 12:18

TF?
Vi Mon 12:18

Not to mention recruitment after being verified
Kassadin Mon 12:18

ffs
Mon 12:18

did you even read??
Poppy Mon 12:18

Okay, fair and square
Mon 12:18

I will claim after Vi does
Kassadin Mon 12:18

this is to detect recruitment
Mon 12:18

because ppl. change roles
Mon 12:19

So I want ROLES today because some of us will have different ones tomorrow
Mon 12:19

that's the whole point.
Poppy Mon 12:19

the odds are greater that they lose their role than that they can still carry out their role after recruit, indeed
Lucian Mon 12:19

i will claim after Brand and Ahri and Sona claim
Vi Mon 12:19

If they are changed then the number is not right isn't it
Mon 12:19

We'll know by then?
Lucian Mon 12:19

They started this they must go first
Vi Mon 12:20

Yeah, I'll claim after Ahri and Brand and Sona
Mon 12:20

Yep
Sona Mon 12:20

I've been the first sceptic
Mon 12:20

lol
Kassadin Mon 12:20

@Vi, you have to consider the amount of killing is slowing down with recruitment
Lucian Mon 12:21

May you maddam?
Poppy Mon 12:21

Everybody waits for everybody else, that doesn't help. Claim now, Vi, and I'll go right after.
Sona Mon 12:21

What about Kassadin?
Vi Mon 12:21

No?
Kassadin Mon 12:21

So the amount if dead people compared to changed people will be better than a wolf game.
Lucian Mon 12:21

Poppy do you realisy that you are waiting too?
Mon 12:21

If you say that then you go first
Moderator Mon 12:22

Kassadin votes to lynch Viktor
Sona Mon 12:22

Lucian, why these 3 persons?
Lucian Mon 12:22

They started the claim
Mon 12:22

They MUST go first
Sona Mon 12:22

No, they didn't
Lucian Mon 12:22

Hell yes
Mon 12:22

Who then?
Sona Mon 12:22

Akassadin and Agri did
Kassadin Mon 12:22

I already claimed.
Poppy Mon 12:23

Can you restate it? I missed it, I guess
Sona Mon 12:23

I was sceptical and said only if we get enough ppl to claim
Lucian Mon 12:23

Sona will not claim?
Orianna Mon 12:23

This is crazy
Poppy Mon 12:23

The problem is, Sona, that people are rarely here on the same time. We may be able to lead by example
Sona Mon 12:23

I just told you when I'll claim
Poppy Mon 12:23

Orianna, what do you think of this?
Orianna Mon 12:24

Who agree with the claim shit plz claim
Sona Mon 12:24

Honestly, I don't care that much
Mon 12:24

I'm a Graverobber
Lucian Mon 12:24

good
Sona Mon 12:24

Lucian, now claim please
Lucian Mon 12:24

1 down 2 to go
Mon 12:24

Brand and Ahiri
Sona Mon 12:25

Lucian, please don't stall
Mon 12:25

Go first
Orianna Mon 12:25

He didnt stall
Mon 12:25

He said it clearly
Mon 12:25

Only claim if 3 of that people claim
Mon 12:25

So are Vi then to Poppy
Poppy Mon 12:25

I think it's fair to get in turns
Sona Mon 12:25

That's a huge condition
Poppy Mon 12:25

You can't demand 3v1
Sona Mon 12:26

Everyone just claim
Lucian Mon 12:26

But i dont trust those guys
Sona Mon 12:26

Yes, doesn't stop you from claiming
Poppy Mon 12:26

But then state why the hell you trust Vi, for no apparent reason
Mon 12:26

We need to establish trust
Mon 12:26

by claiming after each other?
Lucian Mon 12:26

Hell
Mon 12:27

Ahiri and Brand need to claim
Vi Mon 12:27

I think because I opposed the #iclaim?
Sona Mon 12:27

They will
Zilean Mon 12:27

Just make it simple all just claim
Lucian Mon 12:28

they will run out of roles to claim and i know they will show their tail
Orianna Mon 12:28

I think so too
Mon 12:28

People say everyone else to claim but they wont claim is sus AF
Sona Mon 12:28

Orianna, have you claimed a role?
Mon 12:29

Zilean, may I ask you for your role?
Orianna Mon 12:29

I will go wit Lucian's condition too
Lucian Mon 12:29

Zilean is a reviver
Sona Mon 12:29

Poppy, what about your role?
Poppy Mon 12:30

After Vi.
Sona Mon 12:30

Can someone be a bit more grown up?
Poppy Mon 12:30

UGH
Lucian Mon 12:30

lol you said dont wait and you wait for Vi? xD
Poppy Mon 12:30

THINK ABOUT IT
Sona Mon 12:31

ok, Poppy
Poppy Mon 12:31

SOME ROLES CAN CONFIRM OTHER PEOPLE'S VISIT PATTERNS, SO THEY WANT TO MAKE THEM CLAIM FIRST
Lucian Mon 12:31

Poppy is triggered
Poppy Mon 12:31

...
Mon 12:31

OK Stalker, N1 visited Vi.
Sona Mon 12:31

Lucian, is it relevant for your claim to wait for a person?
Poppy Mon 12:31

Vi, your turn.
Mon 12:31

Yes, I'm triggered - because now Vi can adapt her claim accordingly.
Sona Mon 12:31

thanks Poppy, I trust you
Lucian Mon 12:32

So that's why Poppy want Vi to claim
Poppy Mon 12:32

YES
Mon 12:32

I really wished people would think about this more from a strategic perspective instead of a power-and-conflict mindset
Lucian Mon 12:32

But but but only till Brand and Ahiri
Moderator Mon 12:32

Zilean votes to lynch Brand
Zilean Mon 12:33

I hate saying without doing anything
Lucian Mon 12:33

I dont like who started a claim without claiming
Orianna Mon 12:33

Will remove when he claim
Moderator Mon 12:33

Orianna votes to lynch Brand
Sona Mon 12:34

So I, Poppy, Kassadin and So mean have claimed so far
Lucian Mon 12:34

and so mean?
Poppy Mon 12:34

Perhaps we should now focus one thing at a time?
Mon 12:35

Let's focus on Vi.
Lucian Mon 12:35

No
Mon 12:35

ON BRAND
Sona Mon 12:35

Yes, Vi is here
Moderator Mon 12:35

Sona votes to lynch Vi
Sona Mon 12:35

Brand might not be here
Lucian Mon 12:35

Vi idnt talk
Sona Mon 12:36

Lucian, your condition is outlandish
Lucian Mon 12:36

for a while...
Poppy Mon 12:36

She was here a second ago
Lucian Mon 12:36

welll
Mon 12:36

3 of us want the same condition
Mon 12:36

so fair enough
Sona Mon 12:36

I think that you're evil, together with Orianna
Lucian Mon 12:36

lol
Mon 12:36

how bout Vi? xD
Sona Mon 12:37

Maybe not the same team
Lucian Mon 12:37

whatever
Mon 12:37

i will wait for 1 more hour
Mon 12:37

meet you till then
Vi Mon 12:38

Okay, who did I visit
Poppy Mon 12:39

Can I say?
Mon 12:39

Depending on your role, it may expose them.
Mon 12:40

I mean, worst case here is that I force the ML and their first Mason recruit out in the open ;)
Mon 12:40

Best case is that I found a VM plus recruit, but that means one ML must have died?
Mon 12:40

Which is also good because then the other ML would know about a VM. But that didn't happen, so probably not.
Mon 12:41

I'll wait for your confirmation Vi
Mon 12:41

then I'll confirm your visit
Sona Mon 12:41

Maybe Vi says her role first?
Poppy Mon 12:42

That sounds fair
Sona Mon 12:42

Do you agree, Vi?
Poppy Mon 12:43

(meanwhile: I didn't see Kassadin's role claim, I skimmed over their text but didn't see it. Only some hints?)
Sona Mon 12:46

Stalker
Mon 12:46

Mon 11:41
Poppy Mon 12:46

Thanks
Mon 12:47

Vi, your absence at this moment is remarkable. Can you come over and talk to us for a second?
Sona Mon 12:57

I hope she comes back
Poppy Mon 13:03

Same
Mon 13:03

And Lucian, you're up in half an hour
Sona Mon 13:34

= nowish
Poppy Mon 13:52

..
Sona Mon 13:52

Vi and Lucian are on top of my Liat of suspicion
Mon 13:53

followed by Brand and Ahri
Poppy Mon 13:55

The only explanation for Vi being evil and having 2 deaths N1 is that a ML made a VM-recruit, though. Which is a good trade-off if the other ML would give us a VM at least (and we'd hope it was a VM who didn't recruit yet).
Mon 13:57

So Vi, although being shady, doesn't seem likely to be evil. She's not coven, because then she could only be Alch (based on visit) and the person who she visited already spoke today and didn't announce purge.
Mon 13:59

If she's Fam and doesn't want to say something about her (old) role, a ML must have died because of bad recruit. If she's Vamp, a ML must have died because of bad recruit. If she's Alch and tried to purge somebody who hasn't been purged, I conclude that Vi's target is VM or Fam. Coven would want to keep this info for themselves, since they need the threat of VMs at least at the start? I don't know. I wouldn't know eaxctly what to do as Coven in this game...
Sona Mon 14:06

So what should we do now?
Poppy Mon 14:08

There's little that we can do in a silent village. We can't lynch *everybody*
Mon 14:09

I'll un-pile my vote for now
Moderator Mon 14:09

Poppy votes to lynch Orianna
Sona Mon 14:23

If anyone's here, please talk
Lucian Mon 14:30

hello ;))
Poppy Mon 14:31

Ah!
Mon 14:31

You are most welcome
Varus Mon 14:31

I currently disagree with claims, I'll claim when I see that enough people have claimed OR when I see one specific role being claimed
Sona Mon 14:31

hey hey hey
Poppy Mon 14:32

Lucian, you should keep to your promise and claim your role now :)
Varus Mon 14:32

you can't just go hey hey hey and disagree to disagree no no no I'll scream the same thing until I get what I want everytime someone disagrees with your plan
Lucian Mon 14:32

um
Mon 14:32

Brand didnt claim
Poppy Mon 14:33

You said you'd come back and claim
Sona Mon 14:33

the heyheyhey was for lucian
Varus Mon 14:34

still the same, you're desperately trying to push him while clearly his requested condition hasn't been fulfilled
Mon 14:35

being repetitive
Poppy Mon 14:35

Well, you can request conditions that won't be met.
Mon 14:35

I can request a whole lot of things
Sona Mon 14:35

the way i see It, he could just say that he won't claim
Mon 14:35

His condition might not be fulfilled because of timezones
Mon 14:42

2 stalkers, a Gravedigger and a reviver claimed
Mon 14:42

There's no going back
Poppy Mon 14:43

Yep, don't leave us out in the open
Mon 14:44

you can take responsibility for your own claim instead of waiting for another
Mon 14:44

there are moments when it's strategic, as was the case for me with Vi, but otherwise there's no good reason
Sona Mon 14:45

It's not like we've forgotten about Brand and Ahri
Mon 14:46

At least I too find them suspicious
Mon 14:46

But you are giving them even more power if you wait for them
Lucian Mon 14:47

ok fine
Mon 14:47

very swell
Mon 14:47

i am a ML
Mon 14:47

Orianna is my friend in the house
Mon 14:48

so if i died or missing she will inform you guys
Vi Mon 14:48

Lucian noooo
Sona Mon 14:48

I knew you were a team xD
Lucian Mon 14:48

but i will keep my vote :D
Mon 14:48

Kill brand!
Mon 14:49

I also have a mysterious friend wich will come out when they want
Kassadin Mon 14:49

So you claim PM?
Sona Mon 14:49

Hey Vi, want to claim?
Vi Mon 14:50

*cries*
Lucian Mon 14:50

Dont claim Vi
Vi Mon 14:50

Miscommunication...
Lucian Mon 14:50

...
Vi Mon 14:52

Both MLs used 1 recruit on the same person, now each have 1 left
Mon 14:52

So alchemist, we welcome you
Mon 14:52

To visit us
Mon 14:54

We are sure to recruit 2 more tonight
Mon 14:55

Vamp recruit will be a waste on us, since we can talk at night
Lucian Mon 14:57

hum...
Mon 14:57

i see what are you saying
Vi Mon 14:57

I think me and Lucian will shut up, so is Ori
Lucian Mon 14:57

xD
Vi Mon 14:57

We'll talk at night
Lucian Mon 14:58

Ofcourse duh...
Vi Mon 14:59

So 2MLs are alive, you guys can discuss
Mon 14:59

Both vamps killed last night
Lucian Mon 14:59

Poppy it is time to spill your role
Orianna Mon 15:00

Yeh!
Lucian Mon 15:01

nah JK
Mon 15:02

you are a stalker
Mon 15:09

the silent...
Poppy Mon 15:20

Wow, that's unfortunate Mason action there
Mon 15:20

So it's time I say who was visited
Mon 15:21

And I see Orianna is also expressing their curiosity
Mon 15:21

and I see that I voted for Orianna
Mon 15:21

*hint hint*
Mon 15:22

If both VMs killed, we should put more effort into the role call
Mon 15:22

we might lynch a VM today
Varus Mon 15:23

lucian, I don't feel like claiming, can you recruit me tonight and let vi have a free-willed recruit?
Poppy Mon 15:24

Let's all claim
Mon 15:24

MLS are out
Mon 15:24

can't get any more exposed than this
Mon 15:24

Go for it, Varus. Spill those beans
Varus Mon 15:25

you can't control me, unless you vamp recruit me
Mon 15:25

*audible wink*
Poppy Mon 15:25

Ah come on
Varus Mon 15:26

clearly, coven would wanna side with us to get rid of vamps first
Mon 15:26

if vamps recruit the masons, the fams will be exposed
Mon 15:26

if vamps kill the masons, they'll slow themselves down
Mon 15:26

so I think my point of view here is reasonable enough
Poppy Mon 15:27

So state your plan, exactly?
Varus Mon 15:28

the ML sees me successfully recruited, I become verified and immune to recruits (because I'll just die easily, not worth the recruit for vamps), despite not knowing my role, you get another confirmed village member anyway
Mon 15:28

also, I already said on what condition I would claim
Mon 15:28

and I'll do it when I think it's met, no need to remind me
Jhin Mon 15:31

That does not make any sense to me unless you're the PM.
Lucian Mon 15:31

Can we kill Brand?
Varus Mon 15:32

if lucian recruits me, you know, he can just call me out if I am a coven
Jhin Mon 15:35

Yes, but seriously what did VARUS just imply?
Varus Mon 15:36

that I disagree with early role claim
Mon 15:36

and that I demanded a mason recruit, even before the claim shenanigan happened
Sona Mon 15:36

I don't see why the Masons should recruit you when you are basically dead
Varus Mon 15:36

those are the only two things I wanted to say today
Lucian Mon 15:39

Varus have a good point
Varus Mon 15:39

thank you
Lucian Mon 15:39

i belive him
Varus Mon 15:39

I'll just leave it as that
Mon 15:40

lucian, tell me whether you want me to move my asv to help pressuring brand before I leave
Lucian Mon 15:40

Help me kill Brand
Moderator Mon 15:41

Varus votes to lynch Brand
Varus Mon 15:41

I said at the beginning of the day that I think early lynches are appropriate for two VMs setup
Mon 15:41

so, happy to help
Lucian Mon 15:41

:))
Varus Mon 15:42

see ya
Lucian Mon 15:42

come out Ahri and claim
Mon 15:42

we have cookies
Mon 15:42

come out
Sona Mon 15:42

I hope yuo die, then I could get your role + we can revive you
Poppy Mon 15:43

Sona, can you give me an overview of all claims so far?
Sona Mon 15:43

Kassadin - Stalker
Mon 15:43

Poppy - Stalker
Mon 15:43

Sona - Gracerobber
Mon 15:43

Lucian - ML
Mon 15:43

Vi - ML
Mon 15:44

Orianna - ? recruited
Mon 15:44

Zilean - Reviver
Mon 15:45

Did I forget someone?
Poppy Mon 15:45

Not that I know of
Brand Mon 15:45

I have four votes
Mon 15:46

Interesting
Poppy Mon 15:46

OK, Orianna needn't claim at the moment if their info is safe in the Masons? We do need it to be shared before the info is lost
Brand Mon 15:46

Anyone want to explain why
Poppy Mon 15:46

People want you to claim
Sona Mon 15:46

She should claim if there's a contradiction
Brand Mon 15:46

All I got from the chat was Lucian shouting my name a lot
Poppy Mon 15:46

You were one of the first people saying we should role claim
Mon 15:46

we got somewhere with that already
Brand Mon 15:46

Poppy, but why do I have votes on me?
Poppy Mon 15:46

now we need your role
Brand Mon 15:46

Couldn't they have just asked me?
Poppy Mon 15:47

I can't speak for them, I can't look into their minds...
Brand Mon 15:47

Like, I don't understand why the votes are there
Sona Mon 15:47

You weren't here?!
Poppy Mon 15:47

But anyway, I think that once you claim all is cleared
Brand Mon 15:47

Sure, I'm a reviver
Mon 15:48

I was all in favour of the role claim
Poppy Mon 15:48

Thanks! :)
Brand Mon 15:48

Sona, is that a question?
Sona Mon 15:48

No
Mon 15:49

So we're at 2/2 revivers
Poppy Mon 15:49

Let's continue with role call
Mon 15:49

And pressure a silent
Moderator Mon 15:49

Poppy votes to lynch Veigar
Poppy Mon 15:49

I've chosen Veigar for this
Brand Mon 15:49

So, you're saying I have the majority vote because I wasn't here?
Moderator Mon 15:49

Sona votes to lynch Veigar
Poppy Mon 15:49

checking in the morning, greeting, then being absent
Brand Mon 15:49

That doesn't seem a very conducive way of organising a village
Moderator Mon 15:49

Kassadin votes to lynch Veigar
Poppy Mon 15:49

@Brand: I'm not sure what was happening, but I think you needn't get worked up over it. People will surely move their vote off of you.
Brand Mon 15:50

I'm not worked up, I just want to point out that people didn't think about their actions
Sona Mon 15:50

Kassadin, please speak up once your stalk get's relevant (obvious, isn't it?)
Brand Mon 15:50

They voted because someone (I assume Lucian) suggested that they should and they followed like sheep
Mon 15:51

I don't think sheep is what this village needs today
Sona Mon 15:51

They were angry that you weren't here to claim when the rolecall started
Brand Mon 15:51

We need a bunch of people who think for themselves not just going along with the loudest voice
Mon 15:51

Sona, um, sorry for having a job?
Sona Mon 15:52

It was them *points fingers*
Mon 15:52

-s
Brand Mon 15:52

It's not like we agreed a time on it or anything
Mon 15:52

Anyway, now I need to go and conserve my phone battery
Sona Mon 15:52

calm down, it's no big deal
Brand Mon 15:52

Have fun people
Sona Mon 15:53

Sorry if you're already calm
Ahri Mon 15:54

ok first to be clear, I didn't start "the claim", I wanted people to commit to claim when there're enough people also commit, that's a bit difference
Mon 15:54

Varus Mon 14:31 I currently disagree with claims, I'll claim when I see that enough people have claimed
Mon 15:55

@Varus " I'll claim when I see that enough people have claimed" ==> that's the whole purpose of the #iclaim thing
Sona Mon 15:55

Yes, I know, Ahri
Ahri Mon 15:55

I'm Militia
Sona Mon 15:55

doesn't matter now
Mon 15:55

that does matter
Ahri Mon 15:56

yes now there're many ppl have claimed so just push it agressively
Sona Mon 15:56

2/2 Revicers 2/3Stalkers 1/1 Graverpbber
Mon 15:56

2/2 Mason Leaders
Ahri Mon 15:57

I remember someone said he would claim after I claim
Sona Mon 15:57

Lucian, Vi and Orianna said so, but they claimed already
Mon 15:58

(Mason Leader, Mason Leader, and recruit) respectively
Ahri Mon 15:58

ok
Mon 15:58

so we need to move votes to pressure someone silent
Mon 15:58

and hasn't claimed
Sona Mon 15:58

Veigar
Ahri Mon 16:00

do we have any info about Veigar?
Moderator Mon 16:01

Ahri votes to lynch Veigar
Ahri Mon 16:01

so many silent ppl in this large game
Sona Mon 16:02

showed up at the start of the day, we might not see him again today
Ahri Mon 16:03

Corki is the same
Mon 16:04

I'm thinking about shooting someone silent tonight
Sona Mon 16:05

The people that talked d1 are Lux, Jhin, Teemo, Kassadin, TwistedState and Maokai
Mon 16:05

And Teemo talked a lot
Mon 16:06

Maokai had 2 lines: Maokai Sun 19:13 Supp ma dudes Sun 19:13 I approve this theme
Mon 16:06

so not that prominen @Kassadin
Mon 16:07

teemo is probably not coven, as they generally try to stay down
Ahri Mon 16:08

but Teemo hasn't shown up today, that's strange
Sona Mon 16:08

imE being talkative at the start and hen going silent is a sign of evil, but that could of course be some RL stuff
Mon 16:09

so let's see whether he comes online in the evening
Ahri Mon 16:09

EVERYONE WHO'S READING THIS, CLAIM IF YOU HAVEN'T, OR I WILL SHOOT ONE OF YOU
Mon 16:09

sometimes it's just personal reasons, but we cannot know
Mon 16:10

more of the times it's intentional than unintentional
Sona Mon 16:11

The time investment of playing evil is higher
Ahri Mon 16:11

true
Sona Mon 16:12

So we trigger all actions tonight to avoid the Alchemists?
Ahri Mon 16:12

and evils usually are more cautious of any actions and words they take
Mon 16:12

maybe
Mon 16:12

depends
Veigar Mon 16:13

are we doing role-calling in D2?
Mon 16:13

wow
Mon 16:13

I need to read back
Ahri Mon 16:13

yes, many ppl have claimed
Veigar Mon 16:13

Can I have a list?
Ahri Mon 16:13

pls do it quick and be sure to come back
Mon 16:13

yes a bit above here
Veigar Mon 16:13

it's too much to read. sorry
Mon 16:14

oh really?
Ahri Mon 16:14

I will paste here
Mon 16:14

Kassadin - Stalker Poppy - Stalker Mon 15:43 Sona - Gracerobber Mon 15:43 Lucian - ML Mon 15:43 Vi - ML Mon 15:44 Orianna - ? recruited
Mon 16:14

Ahri (me) Militia
Veigar Mon 16:14

Nice
Mon 16:14

So we have 3 in Masons, right?
Sona Mon 16:14

I like your Avatar
Veigar Mon 16:14

2 masons leader, and one recruited
Ahri Mon 16:14

seems so
Veigar Mon 16:14

@Sona: Thanks
Ahri Mon 16:14

can you claim now?
Veigar Mon 16:15

I think Orianna shouldn't claim
Mon 16:15

in this closed set-up, as long as Orianna's lit, she didn't need to claim
Mon 16:15

Should I?
Sona Mon 16:15

It's an open setup
Ahri Mon 16:15

this is open setup
Sona Mon 16:15

Moderator Sun 17:58 There are: 1 Seer, 1 Protector, 2 Gravediggers, 1 Graverobber, 2 Revivers, 3 Stalkers, 2 Militia, 2 MasonLeaders, 1 Djinn, 3 Alchemists, 1 Puppetmaster and 2 VampireMasters.
Ahri Mon 16:16

but I agree that Orianna can stay unclaimed for now, to catch the liars
Veigar Mon 16:16

Actually my role isn't too important to lay low
Mon 16:16

I'm a GD
Ahri Mon 16:16

ok first GD
Veigar Mon 16:16

Very bored last night
Sona Mon 16:16

Who did you dig?
Mon 16:16

jk
Veigar Mon 16:16

It's D2, Sona
Sona Mon 16:17

JK
Mon 16:17

= just kidding
Ahri Mon 16:17

he dug gold
Veigar Mon 16:17

And actually I wasn't here last night
Lucian Mon 16:17

In the GY there's only metan
Veigar Mon 16:17

By somehow I didn't got a noti that game started
Mon 16:17

Can sb explain about VM pls
Lucian Mon 16:17

Luckily he didnt hit 1 or his face would burned off
Veigar Mon 16:17

how many recruitments do they have?
Sona Mon 16:17

In the GY there's only Sodium and Chloride
Lucian Mon 16:18

really?
Veigar Mon 16:18

Guys?
Ahri Mon 16:18

I thought in the GY there's Phosphorus
Sona Mon 16:18

Sodium and Chlorine?
Veigar Mon 16:18

Guys?
Ahri Mon 16:18

ok stop the chemical here
Veigar Mon 16:19

VM and Alchemist aren't in h2p
Sona Mon 16:19

Whatever, I just wanted to say salt
Ahri Mon 16:19

VM can recruit up to 3 familiars
Mon 16:19

familiars is random from Familiar (GD), Familiar (Militia) and Familiar (stalker)
Veigar Mon 16:19

if a VM was killed, he will be automatically revived into his fam's body, right?
Ahri Mon 16:19

yes automatically, starting from the first familiar he recruited
Lucian Mon 16:20

I think there are metan too
Mon 16:20

from the dead bodies produce
Mon 16:20

It sometime will get lit and create will-o'-the-wisp
Ahri Mon 16:20

stop the chemical stuff pls? xD
Veigar Mon 16:20

And Alchemist?
Ahri Mon 16:21

alchemist is in H2p
Veigar Mon 16:21

oh really?
Ahri Mon 16:21

you can check
Veigar Mon 16:21

thanks
Sona Mon 16:21

rikering
Mon 16:21

totally riker
Ahri Mon 16:22

I think I need to repeat this frequently
Mon 16:22

EVERYONE WHO'S READING THIS, CLAIM IF YOU HAVEN'T, OR I WILL SHOOT ONE OF YOU
Veigar Mon 16:23

I swear I didn't know mod updated Alchemist in h2p
Ahri Mon 16:23

there're many evils in this game so I think there's a good chance to hit an evil
Mon 16:23

although having a risk hitting the roles left
Mon 16:23

but many important roles are outed
Veigar Mon 16:23

Omg why am I having 4 votes?
Brand Mon 16:24

Lucian, you still here?
Ahri Mon 16:24

and this will help pushing more role calls, so I WILL SHOOT SOMEONE UNCLAIMED TONIGHT
Mon 16:24

I will announce who I will shoot before end of the day
Sona Mon 16:24

I still think that you are feigning ignorance xD
Ahri Mon 16:25

so if he's not dead everyone will know he's VM
Mon 16:25

or maybe newly recruited familiar
Orianna Mon 16:25

Yes
Mon 16:25

Ori is here
Vi Mon 16:25

Oriiii
Orianna Mon 16:26

Lol
Vi Mon 16:26

You're my main
Sona Mon 16:26

Vi's such a creepy lurker
Orianna Mon 16:26

Ok sorry maddam
Moderator Mon 16:26

Ahri votes to lynch Warwick
Vi Mon 16:26

(I hope I don't get killed for this)
Brand Mon 16:26

So I still have four votes
Vi Mon 16:26

So we have Lux who spoke day 1
Brand Mon 16:27

Anyone fancy maybe taking one or two off me?
Vi Mon 16:27

I think we should push her
Ahri Mon 16:27

Veigar and Brand have claimed, let's move our votes from them pls
Mon 16:27

to the next ones
Vi Mon 16:27

Oh, I voted already :|
Brand Mon 16:27

Thanks Ahri
Vi Mon 16:27

LUXX
Moderator Mon 16:27

Sona votes to lynch Warwick
Brand Mon 16:27

People seem to forget there are puppets around
Ahri Mon 16:27

doesn't matter if the votes are not too close
Vi Mon 16:28

The positive binch in LOL, "Illuminate the enemies" she said
Moderator Mon 16:28

Brand votes to lynch Warwick
Vi Mon 16:28

Why not Luxx
Brand Mon 16:28

Ahri, it matters to me if I'm the one with all the votes on me
Mon 16:28

D:<
Sona Mon 16:28

Orianna, please consider moving your vote
Orianna Mon 16:28

:/
Mon 16:29

I will think
Ahri Mon 16:29

?? why?
Mon 16:29

@Vi why Lux? it's ok but basically they're the same to me
Vi Mon 16:30

Becuase Lux spoke day 1
Mon 16:30

She will be active
Moderator Mon 16:30

Sona votes to lynch Lux
Vi Mon 16:30

When we don't know if warwick will be active or not
Veigar Mon 16:30

I have to go
Ahri Mon 16:30

ok then
Veigar Mon 16:31

who should i vote?
Moderator Mon 16:31

Ahri votes to lynch Lux
Vi Mon 16:31

LUX
Sona Mon 16:31

me
Veigar Mon 16:31

I'm not going back
Brand Mon 16:31

Ori
Vi Mon 16:31

Maybe we can balance in the end
Veigar Mon 16:31

Just one, pls
Brand Mon 16:31

You said you'd move your vote when I claimed
Mon 16:31

So why do you now say "you'll think about it"
Ahri Mon 16:31

balance + puppet = dead
Sona Mon 16:31

then make it Luxxxxx
Veigar Mon 16:31

Ori's lit, right?
Moderator Mon 16:32

Veigar votes to lynch Lux
Veigar Mon 16:32

Ok, hope to see you guys tmr
Ahri Mon 16:32

maybe Ori has some intel we don't know?
Mon 16:32

but I cannot think what could make him think with this
Brand Mon 16:32

Lucian and Ori seem to have it in for me #paranoid
Sona Mon 16:33

If it's enough to lynch someone, she should tell us
Vi Mon 16:33

I think "the purge" will happen tonight
Ahri Mon 16:33

yes, I don't get what more he's thinking
Mon 16:33

is there anything can prevent the purge?
Mon 16:34

prot's protection also can't right?
Sona Mon 16:34

I want to be militia *cries*
Vi Mon 16:34

Yeah...
Brand Mon 16:34

Lucian [Mon 15:31] Can we kill Brand?
Ahri Mon 16:34

i remember there's no militia in the purge result list
Brand Mon 16:34

It's statements like this that makes me nervous
Mon 16:34

D:
Ahri Mon 16:35

you can move your vote to Lux first Brand
Mon 16:35

to make yourself safer
Sona Mon 16:35

don't worry, you wont be hung
Moderator Mon 16:35

Brand votes to lynch Lux
Ahri Mon 16:36

I'm pasting this once in a while
Vi Mon 16:36

https://media.giphy.com/media/rZb7Je4LkT9lu/giphy.gif
Ahri Mon 16:36

EVERYONE WHO'S READING THIS, CLAIM IF YOU HAVEN'T, OR I WILL SHOOT ONE OF YOU WHO HASN'T CLAIMED
Sona Mon 16:36

Maybe paste it when someone comes around?
Moderator Mon 16:37

Sona votes to lynch Teemo
Moderator Mon 16:37

Sona votes to lynch Lux
Ahri Mon 16:38

who knows when someone's lurking
Sona Mon 16:39

the stalker?
Ahri Mon 16:41

Warwick, Karthus, Lux, Corki, Ezreal, Lissandra, Jhin, Viktor, Teemo, Twistedfate I WILL CHOOSE ONE OF YOU TO SHOOT IF YOU'RE NOT CLAIMING
Mon 16:41

has Varus claimed?
Sona Mon 16:45

No
Mon 16:46

Bit wants a Mail recruit
Mon 16:46

But wants a Mason recruit
Ahri Mon 16:47

he also hinted that he has boring night
Mon 16:47

but HEY I've just realized something weird
Mon 16:47

I've counted the roles in the setup, it's 22 including the puppet
Brand Mon 16:47

What's that?
Ahri Mon 16:47

but we have 23 names here
Mon 16:48

does PM have 1 or 2 puppets?
Brand Mon 16:49

PM should have two, I think?
Mon 16:49

But I count 23 with puppets
Mon 16:50

You did count the TWO vampire masters right?
Ahri Mon 16:50

if 2 puppets then 23 is correct
Mon 16:50

yes of course
Brand Mon 16:50

Okay, just checking
Mon 16:50

Yeah, so with two puppets I think it adds up?
Ahri Mon 16:51

yup, I thought there's 1
Brand Mon 16:52

It's weird that there was two deaths, actually
Mon 16:52

That means neither VM recruited
Mon 16:53

(or maybe both tried to recruit coven!)
Moderator Mon 16:53

Orianna votes to lynch Kassadin
Orianna Mon 16:54

I am not coming back
Brand Mon 16:54

/me high-fives Ori
Mon 16:54

You mah hero
Orianna Mon 16:55

You wont get lynch anyway... the village like you mores... just make you safer
Mon 16:55

Feel*
Brand Mon 16:55

I'm just super paranoid, I always seem to die early as reviver xD
Mon 16:56

(or get bitched at for reviving N2)
Mon 16:56

(or both)
Sona Mon 16:57

Reviving n2 is a very nice gesture to the n1 kill
Brand Mon 16:57

Although in this set up, ugh
Ahri Mon 17:12

I'm not sure if you should revive N2
Brand Mon 17:13

No, definitely not in this set up
Mon 17:13

I usually do it when it's a "guaranteed villager"
Mon 17:13

but we can't guarantee anything right now :|
Ahri Mon 17:15

Djinn can also swap dead ppl right?
Orianna Mon 17:15

Wanna bet Brand is fucked for tonight anyone?
Brand Mon 17:15

:'(
Mon 17:16

y u jinx me?
Moderator Mon 17:22

Poppy votes to lynch Lux
Poppy Mon 17:22

joining in for pressure
Ahri Mon 17:36

good, with 3 votes in difference, even PM can't mess up
Mon 17:37

no anyone else show up and claim? :(
Poppy Mon 17:39

I suggest we shoot silent people
Mon 17:39

just going radical there
Ahri Mon 17:40

yep, with this number of evils we get high chance of eliminating one
Mon 17:41

or else, if some village role is inactive and irresonsible, they're fucked anyway
Moderator Mon 17:43

Sona votes to lynch Lissandra
Moderator Mon 17:43

Sona votes to lynch Jhin
Sona Mon 17:44

enough votes on jhin
Mon 17:44

enough voes on lux
Ahri Mon 17:44

what if 2 puppets?
Sona Mon 17:45

there are 2 puppets most of the time
Ahri Mon 17:46

but i mean it's 5 votes vs 3 votes
Sona Mon 17:46

Brand, should we revive and steal from the same person?
Ahri Mon 17:46

worst chance we have 2 puppets in Lux
Sona Mon 17:46

Then you shoot them
Ahri Mon 17:46

but waste 1 no-lynch day
Sona Mon 17:47

Nah, wont happen
Mon 17:47

What if Lux shows up and claims?
Ahri Mon 17:52

try to come online before day ends?
Poppy Mon 17:52

yeah
Ahri Mon 17:52

but show up that late, he can't blame others for dying
Sona Mon 17:59

Was Veigar feigning ignorance?
Ahri Mon 18:02

Warwick, Karthus, Lux, Corki, Ezreal, Lissandra, Jhin, Viktor, Teemo, Twistedfate you have 2 hours left! If won't care if anyone in this is member of village
Lux Mon 18:05

Damn... What happened today? I thought it would be a normal boring d2
Poppy Mon 18:05

Hi, Lux, role please
Mon 18:06

we'll explain after
Mon 18:06

Although I will assume you've already studied at least the general tone of today's chat, perhaps already read everything.
Lux Mon 18:06

Is this a total role reveal?
Poppy Mon 18:06

Yes
Mon 18:06

It's best in the setup
Mon 18:07

in the opinion of some
Lux Mon 18:07

Whats everyone's role?
Mon 18:07

I cant find ỉ
Poppy Mon 18:07

There is a list going around somewhere
Mon 18:08

but your role should come first
Mon 18:08

your role SHOULD be independent of the role claims made so far, right?
Mon 18:08

go for it :)
Lux Mon 18:08

Well if you want it that much. Im stalker
Poppy Mon 18:09

okay, cheers, me too
Mon 18:09

did you produce an interesting result? did your target visit at all?
Mon 18:09

I'll conjure up the role list now
Mon 18:09

silence! =)
Mon 18:09

Kassadin - Stalker
Mon 18:09

Sona - Graverobber
Mon 18:10

Poppy - Stalker
Mon 18:10

Lucian - ML
Mon 18:10

Vi - ML
Mon 18:10

Orianna == recruited, no role claim necessary
Lux Mon 18:10

Sadly i didnt find anything, but why are the votes on me btw..
Poppy Mon 18:10

Zilean - Reviver
Mon 18:10

Brand - Reviver
Mon 18:10

Ahri - Militia
Mon 18:10

Veigar - GD
Mon 18:10

Now, please do state your check
Mon 18:11

You may confirm someone here or reduce the roles this person can claim later in the game
Lux Mon 18:11

Warwick stayed home
Mon 18:11

Checked because he is on top of the list
Poppy Mon 18:12

alright, fair enough
Mon 18:12

So we got all stalkers, if nobody's lying
Sona Mon 18:13

Moderator Sun 17:58 There are: 1 Seer, 1 Protector, 2 Gravediggers, 1 Graverobber, 2 Revivers, 3 Stalkers, 2 Militia, 2 MasonLeaders, 1 Djinn, 3 Alchemists, 1 Puppetmaster and 2 VampireMasters.
Lux Mon 18:13

So you didnt find anything too?
Poppy Mon 18:13

Warwick belongs in set {2GD, 1GR (conflict Sona), 2Reviver, 2Mili, 1Djinn, 3Alch, 1PM, 2Puppets}
Mon 18:13

I confirmed Vi's recruit
Mon 18:13

If we assume Sona is really the GR
Sona Mon 18:13

1/2 GDs 1/1 GR 2/2 Revivers 3/3 Stalkers 1/2 Militias 2/2 Masons
Poppy Mon 18:13

there is more chance Warwick is coven than they are village, right?
Moderator Mon 18:14

Poppy votes to lynch Warwick
Poppy Mon 18:14

(Lux, by the way, votes were there for pressure - we need to give people incentive to claim)
Mon 18:14

I suggest we pressure Warwick
Mon 18:15

Or don't we?
Mon 18:15

He may be coven, but then again - we're really looking for VM
Mon 18:16

by the way, did Kassadin state their check? we'd need it out there before they die, I guess
Sona Mon 18:16

No they didn't
Moderator Mon 18:16

Lux votes to lynch Brand
Lux Mon 18:17

Balance for myself
Sona Mon 18:17

Will you be online later?
Lux Mon 18:17

Yes. Im reading today's chat
Sona Mon 18:18

ok
Poppy Mon 18:18

Sona, in the meantime
Mon 18:18

what do you think we should do now?
Sona Mon 18:18

Lynch someone inactive and let the Militias shoot inactive ppl
Poppy Mon 18:19

Sounds good
Mon 18:19

What do you think about Warwick as target?
Mon 18:19

for lynch
Mon 18:19

non-visitor is not a Prot/Seer at least
Sona Mon 18:20

But certainly not VM
Poppy Mon 18:20

definitely
Mon 18:20

that's true
Mon 18:20

okay, another one thne
Sona Mon 18:21

Kassadin think that Maokai is coven ... should we revive/rob him?
Moderator Mon 18:21

Poppy votes to lynch Karthus
Poppy Mon 18:21

(I choose Karthus as the victim)
Mon 18:21

mmz, perhaps not
Mon 18:21

if we suspect coven, that is
Mon 18:22

after 174, VMs would try to recruit N1, you'd say... so that would correspond with deaths on the coven side because of failed recruits
Mon 18:22

on the other hand, group is large enough that you can probably elude a check
Mon 18:22

would anyone risk it?
Mon 18:23

If you rob a coven and we revive the same coven we're going to need to spend resources on getting rid of you
Mon 18:23

resources we probably don't want to spend
Mon 18:24

anyway, brb
Sona Mon 18:24

7/23 were coven ... the chances are not that high that both Vampire Master hit coven
Twistedfate Mon 18:44

TWM you forget you're in an active game and everyone is practically screming when you show up...
Teemo Mon 18:44

Hey guys. Apologies for my lateness. Super busy day. Leaving an asv for now and Ill catch up reading soon
Twistedfate Mon 18:44

D2 full role call is entirely stupid
Moderator Mon 18:44

Teemo votes to lynch Poppy
Twistedfate Mon 18:44

I only skimmed because there was literally a novella to read
Mon 18:44

I am GD
Teemo Mon 18:45

^^ about the novel lol
Twistedfate Mon 18:45

Can anyone post a compreensive claim list?
Mon 18:45

comprehensive*
Lux Mon 18:47

Poppy just showed the list, you can see it by scroll up a little bit
Twistedfate Mon 18:48

I see it, thanks
Lux Mon 18:50

Hmm there is something so wrong with the chat today
Sona Mon 18:51

Treemo, please claim
Mon 18:51

We're getting into conflict territpry
Mon 18:52

What, Lux?
Lux Mon 18:53

I think the chance of both ML recruiting same target is low, but Lucian claimed first and Poppy confirmed Vi
Twistedfate Mon 18:53

"Claimed first" is NOT a reliable confirmation
Sona Mon 18:54

The masonleaders can communicate at night
Lux Mon 18:54

Yea just talking about probability
Twistedfate Mon 18:54

Again, sorry for the skim, but did they confirm each other?
Sona Mon 18:55

Yes
Twistedfate Mon 18:55

Okay, then it doesn't matter
Lux Mon 18:55

Really? Didnt know that
Sona Mon 18:55

I learned today
Twistedfate Mon 18:56

Yep, it becomes a big old mason family
Lux Mon 18:56

Interesting
Twistedfate Mon 18:56

So anyone who claims to be recruited can be confirmed by a lot of people, and if anyone is recruited, that can be confirmed by them missing from mason chat
Mon 18:56

handy
Mon 18:57

if anyone is recruited by vamp*
Jhin Mon 18:57

Please don't grave rob tonight. I will find out first who is in there.
Sona Mon 18:57

You're a gravedigger?
Twistedfate Mon 18:57

If any GDs die, rob them, the role is important for this game
Jhin Mon 18:58

I think I should coordinate with Veigar...
Twistedfate Mon 18:58

So veig or Jhin is lying
Sona Mon 18:58

I think it's Jhin
Jhin Mon 18:58

btw I really don't like the threats made against people with no role claim as yet.
Sona Mon 18:58

I don't like how he slips in that he's GD
Mon 18:59

" I will find out first who is in there"
Jhin Mon 18:59

I can see the argument about VMs being important and I've never played in such a setup before, but...
Twistedfate Mon 18:59

Hilarious if Jhin id Djinn
Mon 18:59

is*
Jhin Mon 18:59

I had wanted to stay quiet until I had in fact found a Djinn in GY.
Twistedfate Mon 19:00

And who is that?
Jhin Mon 19:00

Because while the Djinn is alive I really don't think many of my findings will be worth much.
Twistedfate Mon 19:00

Jhin, you're really not looking so good right now
Jhin Mon 19:00

Sona, sorry for sounding sus to you.
Mon 19:01

Like I said, I have struggled with the whole role call thing.
Twistedfate Mon 19:01

So, do all 3 of us dig the same target and reveal at the same time?
Moderator Mon 19:01

Twistedfate votes to lynch Jhin
Jhin Mon 19:01

What, who is the 3rd GD claimant?
Twistedfate Mon 19:01

Hi
Karthus Mon 19:01

Hi guys. Really busy today, so i will just say that im a Militia. I dont agree with the full reveal D2 though
Poppy Mon 19:02

Hi Karthus
Sona Mon 19:02

ok, let me update the list of claims
Poppy Mon 19:02

we'll need your kill
Sona Mon 19:02

_----------------------
Poppy Mon 19:02

we're going to spend resources instead of getting purged
Sona Mon 19:02

Warwick - ?
Mon 19:02

Brand - Reviver
Mon 19:02

Kassadin Stalker
Mon 19:03

Karthus - Militia
Twistedfate Mon 19:03

Looks like Jhin missed my claim and went for an empty slot
Sona Mon 19:03

Lux - Stalker
Mon 19:03

Poppy - Stalker
Mon 19:03

Corki - ?
Mon 19:03

Ezreal - ?
Mon 19:03

Lissandra - ?
Mon 19:03

Jhin - GD
Mon 19:03

Ahri - Militia
Mon 19:04

Sona - GR
Mon 19:04

Varus - ?
Mon 19:04

Lucian - ML
Mon 19:04

Vi - ML
Mon 19:04

Viktor - ?
Mon 19:04

Orianna - ?
Mon 19:04

but recruited
Jhin Mon 19:04

@Twisted, I did miss your claim indeed.
Sona Mon 19:04

Teemo - ?
Mon 19:04

Veigar - GD
Mon 19:04

Twisted - GD
Jhin Mon 19:04

It makes me realise something you or sb else said...
Sona Mon 19:04

Zilean - Reviver
Jhin Mon 19:05

First claimed (in this case, Veigar) does not constitute reliability.
Sona Mon 19:05

Yes
Twistedfate Mon 19:05

Agreed, which is why I suggest we all dig the same target and reveal at the same time tomorrow
Jhin Mon 19:05

To me it is obvious you or Veig are lying. I am not going to let you know who I dig tonight, we'll see tomorrow provided we all survive.
Karthus Mon 19:06

Thanks Sona
Twistedfate Mon 19:06

Then you look sus af
Karthus Mon 19:06

And we really cant do that on the internet lmao
Twistedfate Mon 19:06

If we all dig the same person, 2 of us will get the same result, and the other won't
Mon 19:06

boom, caught
Sona Mon 19:06

But we want information about both deaths
Twistedfate Mon 19:06

Can't do what?
Karthus Mon 19:06

You cant just count 123 and reveal at the same time
Jhin Mon 19:06

That depends when the liar reveals
Sona Mon 19:07

You can, Karthus
Twistedfate Mon 19:07

THE SAME TIME
Jhin Mon 19:07

@Karthus yes
Twistedfate Mon 19:07

Yes, you can
Mon 19:07

It works
Jhin Mon 19:07

How?
Twistedfate Mon 19:07

Coordinate a time for everyone to be here
Mon 19:07

show up at said time
Mon 19:07

have a 3rd party count
Karthus Mon 19:07

Idk if it was me all i need is fast typing
Twistedfate Mon 19:07

3rd party says 3
Mon 19:07

2
Mon 19:08

1
Jhin Mon 19:08

OK with hitting return
Twistedfate Mon 19:08

then all hit enter
Jhin Mon 19:08

on time...
Twistedfate Mon 19:08

It should be immediate
Jhin Mon 19:08

but does that mean that with all 3 results the same the last one is the liar?
Twistedfate Mon 19:08

no
Jhin Mon 19:08

Then what?
Twistedfate Mon 19:08

They'd need time to type, so a lag of significant amount is clear
Mon 19:09

I mean, are you joking?
Mon 19:09

Pretty sure you're evil
Jhin Mon 19:09

I have never done this before.
Karthus Mon 19:09

Can one get away with bad internet xD
Twistedfate Mon 19:09

No
Jhin Mon 19:09

But it doesn't take a long time to type, say "Seer" or "Alch"
Twistedfate Mon 19:09

The 3 who have claimed have shown to have perfectly good internet
Karthus Mon 19:10

Okay cool. TIL something
Twistedfate Mon 19:10

it'll show up significantly later than the lit digs
Mon 19:10

So when can we all be here?
Mon 19:10

I generally get here later than most
Sona Mon 19:11

So you can't be here at daystart?
Jhin Mon 19:11

10:30 game time for me.
Twistedfate Mon 19:11

and veig isn't here now, so someone early will have to let them know the plan
Sona Mon 19:11

We need you as early as possible
Twistedfate Mon 19:11

Um, not unless I don't go to sleep until 2am
Mon 19:11

That fun TZ stuff
Sona Mon 19:12

@GDs when's the earliest you can be here?
Mon 19:12

Everyone state their time
Lux Mon 19:12

Argh im really sleepy rn, can someone move 1 vote away from me so i can drop my vote in an asv
Jhin Mon 19:12

So are we going to dig Maokai then?
Moderator Mon 19:13

Sona votes to lynch Lissandra
Sona Mon 19:13

Jhin, when's the earliest you can be here?
Twistedfate Mon 19:13

I can be here around 15:00 game time, I think
Jhin Mon 19:13

Jhin Mon 19:11 10:30 game time for me.
Sona Mon 19:14

Is 15:00 fine for you?
Twistedfate Mon 19:14

Or, I can do a one time thing to stay up until day start to confirm myself
Jhin Mon 19:14

I can't do start of the day.
Twistedfate Mon 19:15

*sigh*
Mon 19:15

You can't get here earlier than 10:30 am?
Mon 19:16

Ican be here at that time, obviously, but I don't know about veig
Jhin Mon 19:16

I can do 15:00 hrs and most times from 10:30
Sona Mon 19:17

So can you both do 10:30?
Twistedfate Mon 19:17

so let's shoot for 15:00, but if veig isn't here, what do we do?
Mon 19:17

10:30 game time?
Sona Mon 19:17

yes
Twistedfate Mon 19:17

That's like 4am
Sona Mon 19:18

Veigar was there at daystart
Twistedfate Mon 19:18

or 3
Sona Mon 19:18

so we can talk with him then
Jhin Mon 19:18

STOP
Mon 19:18

wistedfate Mon 19:17 so let's shoot for 15:00, but if veig isn't here, what do we do? Mon 19:17 10:30 game time?
Sona Mon 19:18

Veigar will be there
Jhin Mon 19:18

That does not make any sense
Mon 19:19

If he isn't there at 15:00 hrs
Twistedfate Mon 19:19

Right now it's 19:18 game time
Jhin Mon 19:19

we can't time travel back to 10:30 hrs
Lux Mon 19:19

lol
Sona Mon 19:19

We're wasting time here
Twistedfate Mon 19:19

No, I was asking a question, Jhin. . .
Lux Mon 19:19

i think we dont really need veigar
Twistedfate Mon 19:19

Sona asked me if I can be here at 10:30
Mon 19:20

Why?
Lux Mon 19:20

if you all can gather at the same time
Jhin Mon 19:20

Because it's the earliest I can do.
Lux Mon 19:20

and prove urselves
Twistedfate Mon 19:20

Oh my god, never mind
Mon 19:20

Jhin, you aren't following
Jhin Mon 19:20

I didn't understand what time equals 4 in the morning for you.
Twistedfate Mon 19:21

It's 12:20 pm for me right now
Lux Mon 19:21

i mean if everyone can confirm themselves then veigar is evil
Mon 19:21

or if one of you cant follow the test then veig is lit
Jhin Mon 19:21

I do tend to believe you more than Veig now because of the plan you are making.
Twistedfate Mon 19:22

Well, that either means I'm dead or turned tomorrow
Jhin Mon 19:22

My only doubt is now that if I get the timing wrong because of a misunderstanding I will be seen as evil.
Twistedfate Mon 19:22

gg
Jhin Mon 19:22

This is why I double check
Sona Mon 19:23

When we talk about time, we're talking about the time that's shown next to the player name
Jhin Mon 19:23

especially with so many people talking at the same time.
Sona Mon 19:23

It's the same for everyone
Jhin Mon 19:24

But when Twisted said 4am
Sona Mon 19:24

forget about that
Mon 19:24

Can we meet at 12:00 game time?
Jhin Mon 19:24

Yes.
Mon 19:25

Battery going, bear with me...
Sona Mon 19:25

@Twistedfate please confirm
Twistedfate Mon 19:25

That's 6am
Mon 19:25

You're killing me
Jhin Mon 19:26

I get up at that time ;-)
Twistedfate Mon 19:26

Yeah, I don't get up until I have to
Sona Mon 19:26

Yes or no, Twistedfate?
Jhin Mon 19:26

BTW this is all getting VERY meta if you ask me...
Sona Mon 19:26

Yes, but what can you do?
Twistedfate Mon 19:26

13:30 is as early as I'm willing to get up for a game, and only once
Mon 19:27

And yes, it's extremely meta
Sona Mon 19:27

@Jhin can you be there?
Twistedfate Mon 19:27

but most people will know who I am anyway
Jhin Mon 19:27

Well we can decide who is getting lynched tonight, for one.
Mon 19:27

Still most votes on Brand
Sona Mon 19:27

so 13:30 it is
Jhin Mon 19:27

but I thought he had redeemed himself?
Twistedfate Mon 19:27

Jhin, 13:30 tomorrow?
Jhin Mon 19:27

What about Varus?
Mon 19:27

Is he puppet or PM?
Twistedfate Mon 19:27

Also, it's balanced between Brand and Lux
Teemo Mon 19:28

just saw you guys need me to claim. I havent read much yet
Mon 19:28

Im revivier tho
Sona Mon 19:28

ok, so another conflict
Jhin Mon 19:28

But I suppose it's relatively harmless compared to VM
Mon 19:28

Not Teemo conflict I mean!
Mon 19:28

But Varus...
Lux Mon 19:28

btw Jihn, TF and Sona, since you are all active now, can one of you vote brand please? So i can asv and go to sleep
Jhin Mon 19:28

nvm
Twistedfate Mon 19:28

I have to go, and if I don't make it back by nightfall, I'll be here at 13:30
Teemo Mon 19:28

What conflict?
Sona Mon 19:28

Can we all vote Lissandra?
Twistedfate Mon 19:28

Brand claimed, though
Moderator Mon 19:29

Lux votes to lynch Lissandra
Twistedfate Mon 19:29

Inactive lynch?
Sona Mon 19:29

Brand and Zilean are claiming reviver too
Moderator Mon 19:29

Twistedfate votes to lynch Lissandra
Jhin Mon 19:29

And Brand was sus at first because refusing to claim and making everybody else claim
Lux Mon 19:29

wait what
Twistedfate Mon 19:29

Did he refuse, or just go MIA?
Lux Mon 19:29

still 4 votes on me...
Jhin Mon 19:29

And now he is one of the *three* revivers
Sona Mon 19:29

He was away ... I don't want him for not being there
Moderator Mon 19:30

Twistedfate votes to lynch Brand
Sona Mon 19:30

*to lynch him*
Lux Mon 19:30

Thanks TF <3
Twistedfate Mon 19:30

The people on Lux aren't here to move
Mon 19:30

Sure
Sona Mon 19:30

No
Mon 19:30

we should lynch someone who was not ready to claim
Jhin Mon 19:30

I mean it does make sense to come out late as a reviver because vulnerable, but...
Mon 19:31

he should maybe not have urged everyone to come out then?
Sona Mon 19:31

We are more than 4 people active, we can decide the lynch
Twistedfate Mon 19:31

Not on a full role reveal day, though
Mon 19:31

So then we all need to move to liss
Sona Mon 19:31

Yes
Jhin Mon 19:31

Since when do we believe all role claims?
Twistedfate Mon 19:31

Jhin, move to Liss
Mon 19:31

We don't
Brand Mon 19:31

Uh, I need to read up but...
Teemo Mon 19:31

Why Liss? tl;dr anybody?
Twistedfate Mon 19:31

but why hide on a full reveal?
Mon 19:31

Inactive
Brand Mon 19:32

Just to address Jhin and Twisted - I don't think I was "pushing" for a reveal
Sona Mon 19:32

Brand, Teemo claimed reviver
Brand Mon 19:32

I wanted one, sure but lemme quote:
Twistedfate Mon 19:32

I read your bit, Brand, and I don't think it's an issue
Brand Mon 19:32

Brand [Mon 11:47] We either need decent consent (and maybe those who don't consent are evils?)
Twistedfate Mon 19:32

30 minutes to nightfall, can we all agree to lynch Liss?
Moderator Mon 19:33

Brand votes to lynch Lissandra
Jhin Mon 19:33

Oh yes I remember now.
Mon 19:33

SOrry Brand
Mon 19:33

But Varus...
Mon 19:33

And Veigar...
Moderator Mon 19:33

Twistedfate votes to lynch Lissandra
Jhin Mon 19:33

Esp Varus is claiming nonsense.
Twistedfate Mon 19:33

Would like to see one more, since snipe danger
Sona Mon 19:33

next point of order
Jhin Mon 19:33

OK, we have to lynch.
Brand Mon 19:34

What did Varus claim?
Mon 19:34

I haven't had chance to read all the backlog
Sona Mon 19:34

Should we revive tonight?
Twistedfate Mon 19:34

No
Jhin Mon 19:34

He did not claim but demanded an ML recruit.
Twistedfate Mon 19:34

I say wait for confirmation
Brand Mon 19:34

oh right, yeah
Mon 19:34

I saw that
Twistedfate Mon 19:34

We could have coven in GY
Brand Mon 19:34

weird
Jhin Mon 19:34

He said he was dangerless
Sona Mon 19:34

But we only get confirmation on one person
Twistedfate Mon 19:34

I know
Jhin Mon 19:34

because he would die if recruited by VM
Sona Mon 19:34

it's too slow
Jhin Mon 19:34

He talked rubbish basically.
Twistedfate Mon 19:34

But would you rather wait, or accidentally bring coven back?
Jhin Mon 19:35

But he might be a puppet
Mon 19:35

in any case up to no good
Mon 19:35

but possibly harmless
Twistedfate Mon 19:35

The one person dig is just for one night
Brand Mon 19:35

Also ... coven have no witch, but they do have a Djinn
Mon 19:35

so they're probably gonna try and mess with the GY or something -_-
Jhin Mon 19:35

Twisted, do we dig Maokai?
Mon 19:36

I did not see confirmation of that.
Twistedfate Mon 19:36

Hmm, I'd prefer Graves
Jhin Mon 19:36

Why?
Twistedfate Mon 19:36

Sorry, I know you asked and I got distracted
Mon 19:36

Avatar bias
Mon 19:36

haha
Jhin Mon 19:36

It was suggested that Maokai might be a Coven recruit
Mon 19:36

or something
Twistedfate Mon 19:36

I missed that as well
Moderator Mon 19:36

Jhin votes to lynch Lissandra
Twistedfate Mon 19:37

But if one of the 3 of us is coven, they'll know the role
Mon 19:37

Let's go for graves
Jhin Mon 19:37

Fair enough.
Twistedfate Mon 19:37

So 13:30, we come together and reveal
Jhin Mon 19:38

And what do we do if Veigar turns up and claims he checked the other because he didn't see this conversation?
Twistedfate Mon 19:38

Please, early folks let veig know the plan if possible, so we 3 can be here together
Mon 19:38

^^^
Mon 19:38

The best we can do is hope it comes together
Jhin Mon 19:38

No.
Mon 19:38

We have 22 minutes left to do that.
Twistedfate Mon 19:38

I HAVE TO GO
Sona Mon 19:39

ok
Twistedfate Mon 19:40

Prots and stalkers need to be on point, too! 3 stalkers 3 GDs, eh?
Jhin Mon 19:40

Hm, I do worry about these plans to militia-shoot a silent one, or decide a GD claimer is lying based on a plan that can go so easily wrong
Twistedfate Mon 19:40

1st stalker on the list take veig, second take Jhin, third take me
Brand Mon 19:40

have we had a seer claim yet?
Twistedfate Mon 19:41

no
Brand Mon 19:41

hmmm, so we could militia shoot the seer :|
Sona Mon 19:41

The stalkers should do their thing
Twistedfate Mon 19:41

We could be lynching seer
Brand Mon 19:41

D:
Twistedfate Mon 19:41

Inactive, their fault
Sona Mon 19:41

Chances are that the seer is dead
Poppy Mon 19:41

in that case, we might get m back as well
Twistedfate Mon 19:42

True
Brand Mon 19:42

Sona, low chances imho
Twistedfate Mon 19:42

Okay, leaving
Mon 19:42

Good luck!
Sona Mon 19:42

Bye
Mon 19:42

I think that the stalkers should just do their thing
Mon 19:42

Having 3 stalkers on the GDs is a waste of resources
Mon 19:43

So the plans are
Mon 19:44

wait
Mon 19:44

I've got an idea
Mon 19:44

2 Gravediggers dig Graves
Mon 19:45

and he third one digs Maokai, but get's stalked
Mon 19:45

What do you think?
Brand Mon 19:45

What happens if the two GDs who did Graves disagree?
Twistedfate Mon 19:45

*sigh* can' leave yet!
Sona Mon 19:45

Urgh
Jhin Mon 19:45

I like it. I wanted to dig Maokai anyway
Twistedfate Mon 19:45

NO, we all 3 have to dig the same person
Sona Mon 19:45

ok
Twistedfate Mon 19:45

2 of us have to confirm each other
Mon 19:46

Also, my stalker plan was mostly a joke, but if any stalkers want to help confirm, great
Jhin Mon 19:46

Let's not have stalkers on us then.
Mon 19:46

Waste of resources like sb said.
Brand Mon 19:46

I think stalkers should target the inactives
Sona Mon 19:46

The stalkers should try to catch the Vampire Master
Moderator Mon 19:46

Ahri votes to lynch Lissandra
Brand Mon 19:46

hi Ahri
Jhin Mon 19:46

Yes re: stalkers
Sona Mon 19:47

Not meddle in tiny coven affairs
Jhin Mon 19:47

^this
Sona Mon 19:47

I think the militias should shoot
Jhin Mon 19:48

Varus? I really don't have time for unhelpful rubbish like he spouted
Sona Mon 19:48

SO THE PLANS ARE:
Jhin Mon 19:48

But then he might be relatively harmless.
Sona Mon 19:48

GRAVEDIGGERS ALL DIG GRAVES
Mon 19:49

MILITIAS SHOOT SOMEONE INACTIVE BUT PLEASE ANNOUNCE IT
Brand Mon 19:49

Announce it now?
Sona Mon 19:49

STALKERS SEERS - CATCH THE VAMPIRES
Brand Mon 19:49

or announce it tomorrow?
Poppy Mon 19:49

announce today would be ideal
Sona Mon 19:49

REVIVERS, GRAVEDIGGER< do nothing
Poppy Mon 19:50

otherwise an evil killing role could claim retrospectively
Mon 19:50

GRAVEROBBER THAT IS
Sona Mon 19:50

shit
Poppy Mon 19:50

GRAVEDIGGERS SHOULD DEFINITELY DO SOMETHING
Mon 19:50

;p
Sona Mon 19:50

Ahri
Mon 19:50

Who are you shooting?
Mon 19:51

ok, whatever
Mon 19:51

Ahri, please shoot Ezreal
Lissandra Mon 19:52

Well I was expecting to quickly check in on a quiet day but there's so much to catch up on -_- And apparently I'm being lynched for some reason - I'll go read now but place a vote in case I don't get through ti all in time
Moderator Mon 19:52

Lissandra votes to lynch Brand
Sona Mon 19:52

no time
Poppy Mon 19:52

Lissandra, claim role
Mon 19:52

and we might be able to turn the tide
Sona Mon 19:52

You better claim
Poppy Mon 19:52

if you don't say it NOW
Mon 19:52

there's no chance
Mon 19:52

(we're doing full role claim today, that's why)
Sona Mon 19:53

Actually, I don't agree
Mon 19:53

Changing stuff 10 Minutes to nightfall is a bad idea
Poppy Mon 19:53

why?
Mon 19:53

okay
Mon 19:53

Well, I might change it. Lissandra, please speak up
Lissandra Mon 19:53

Oh Graverobber but it looks like people have made their mind up about me for some reason, any idea why?
Poppy Mon 19:53

you're GR?
Ahri Mon 19:53

I still sus the late-active ppl a bit, but let them be verified tmr
Lissandra Mon 19:54

Yep
Sona Mon 19:54

LOL
Mon 19:54

Ciao
Moderator Mon 19:54

Poppy votes to lynch Lissandra
Ahri Mon 19:54

zz
Poppy Mon 19:54

Early claim doesn't mean Sona's valid though, not necessarily
Ahri Mon 19:54

fucking online in the last minutes
Lissandra Mon 19:54

Has someone already claimed Graverobber then?
Poppy Mon 19:54

Sona has
Brand Mon 19:54

Question: should GDs check the lynch instead?
Sona Mon 19:54

Yes, the real graverobber
Poppy Mon 19:55

I suggest GDs check it out
Lissandra Mon 19:55

Well I guess it's my fault for being busy at work, Sona appears to have beat me to it
Poppy Mon 19:55

more than 1 at least
Sona Mon 19:55

Nah, it's a waste
Lissandra Mon 19:55

Probably not much point reviving me since you can use Gravediggers to find the roles that will be useful
Jhin Mon 19:55

Now this is where these beautiful plans to confirm GDs fall apart...
Sona Mon 19:55

I think that we can catch evil ppl by digging graves' rike
Lissandra Mon 19:56

And obviously Sora should by lynched too
Ahri Mon 19:56

Liss, you look like lurking and only come out in the last minute when you see you're in danger
Lissandra Mon 19:56

I can't help being held back at work, but I see how it looks
Sona Mon 19:56

ok, everyone silent, the plans are:
Mon 19:56

GRAVEDIGGERS ALL DIG GRAVES
Lissandra Mon 19:56

My role isn't that helpful anyway, so I'm not that bothered, just please don't trust Sora
Sona Mon 19:56

AHRI SHOOTS CORKI
Mon 19:57

KARTHUS SHOOTS EZREAL
Mon 19:57

STALKERS & SEERS PLEASE FIND US THE VAMPS :P
Lissandra Mon 19:57

Looks like Sora's been leading the game from this little snippet I've seen too
Sona Mon 19:57

REVIVERS, GRAVEROBBER, do nothing
Lissandra Mon 19:57

I will check back on the game in case someone does revive me, but I would suggest reviving someone with a more useful role
Ahri Mon 19:58

I prefer shooting Warwick, at least he did nothing, he's not seer or prot
Sona Mon 19:58

ok, granted
Brand Mon 19:58

Can GD steal Alchemist?
Sona Mon 19:58

Yes
Brand Mon 19:58

um, GR
Mon 19:58

ah damn
Lissandra Mon 19:59

Quick scan shows a lot of last minute voting on me too, should watch those votes
Ahri Mon 19:59

quick scan shows a lot of last minute online ppl
Lissandra Mon 19:59

Has there been any other clashing role claims? Militia might be better saved for some of those
Brand Mon 19:59

I thought we could get away with a guilt-free GR check on one of the dead :(
Lissandra Mon 19:59

Inactives will be smited
Mon 19:59

Lynching them is a waste
Ahri Mon 19:59

at least we forced out many claims today
Lissandra Mon 19:59

You don't have a GR check if you're lynching me
Sona Mon 19:59

They might only be inactive by daylight
Ahri Mon 19:59

we'll see later
Lissandra Mon 20:00

Good luck
Lynched Mon 20:00

Lissandra was lynched by the village
Killed Tue 08:01

Karthus was killed during the night
Killed Tue 08:01

Warwick was killed during the night
Moderator Tue 08:01

Veigar votes to lynch Zilean
Veigar Tue 08:01

Asv 1st. I am out side and will be back after about an hour. I followed the plan and pls make sure other Gd will wait for me to speak out the check result.
Tue 08:02

I even have an alarm for this game lol
Poppy Tue 08:02

Alright
Vi Tue 08:02

Very funny
Poppy Tue 08:02

What is?
Vi Tue 08:03

Nothing
Poppy Tue 08:03

Alright
Vi Tue 08:03

I think both Vampire recruited last night
Poppy Tue 08:03

Could very well be
Vi Tue 08:04

They're syncing atm :P
Tue 08:04

Just a guess, I'm not sure what's going on
Poppy Tue 08:04

I will post my info at a tactical point. It's better I first let people speak before I state my info. Unfortunately, I'm rather busy today, but I will be there somewhere between 13:00 and 17:00 server time.
Vi Tue 08:04

Ahri said she'd shoot someone right
Poppy Tue 08:05

I think so, she would shoot Warwick I believe
Sona Tue 08:05

Holaaa
Vi Tue 08:05

So was Karthus
Tue 08:05

Hiyo
Poppy Tue 08:05

Hey Sona, got anything to report?
Sona Tue 08:05

Yes, something
Poppy Tue 08:05

you didn't rob last night, right?
Vi Tue 08:05

How's your robbery going
Sona Tue 08:05

Aye
Vi Tue 08:06

Aw sad
Sona Tue 08:07

So How did Karthus die?
Vi Tue 08:07

Vamp
Sona Tue 08:07

Coven recruited by Vampire?
Vi Tue 08:08

or somebody
Sona Tue 08:08

Or did the Vampire kill him?
Tue 08:08

Who was he supposed to shoot?
Vi Tue 08:09

I wonder how's everyone after the purge night
Sona Tue 08:09

I wasn't purged ...
Vi Tue 08:09

Revivers must have been suffering
Moderator Tue 08:09

Sona votes to lynch Ezreal
Sona Tue 08:10

Karthus was supposed to shoot him
Vi Tue 08:10

One quick question: Can Vampire Master die at night? (beside blighted by Demonlord)
Sona Tue 08:11

Nope
Vi Tue 08:11

Oh okay
Sona Tue 08:11

Can't be shot by the militia either
Vi Tue 08:12

Interesting
Tue 08:12

I suggest we should push Corki first
Tue 08:12

He's up online at this time of the day
Moderator Tue 08:12

Vi votes to lynch Corki
Moderator Tue 08:13

Poppy votes to lynch Corki
Poppy Tue 08:13

joining in
Sona Tue 08:13

But Ezreal is a VM
Poppy Tue 08:13

Are we sure?
Vi Tue 08:13

Yeah, are you sure...
Poppy Tue 08:13

okay, chance of lynching VM is too good to let pass
Tue 08:13

but we also need to pressure people
Moderator Tue 08:13

Sona votes to lynch Corki
Sona Tue 08:13

we can switch later
Poppy Tue 08:13

so we'll pressure people and we won't tell them we might lynch Ezreal anyway
Tue 08:14

exactly
Tue 08:14

Corki, your role or your life!
Sona Tue 08:15

or both, depending on your role
Ezreal Tue 08:17

I think Sona is evil
Vi Tue 08:17

There you are
Ezreal Tue 08:17

she's so sure that I'm evil without any proof
Sona Tue 08:17

I can confirm
Ezreal Tue 08:17

good play
Vi Tue 08:17

Anyway, what's your role Ezreal
Ezreal Tue 08:17

I'm militia
Sona Tue 08:18

Karthus died -> Karthus was lit -> Karthus was Militia -> Karthus tried to shoot you -> you didn't die
Vi Tue 08:18

Okay...
Tue 08:18

Did you shoot anybody?
Poppy Tue 08:18

I don't think Ezreal has a strong claim, though
Sona Tue 08:18

"without any proof" lol
Ezreal Tue 08:19

lol Sona, so ppl always follow your plan to a T?
Vi Tue 08:19

Ezreal, did you shoot anyone
Tue 08:19

Stop with the salt
Kassadin Tue 08:19

Morning everyone
Ezreal Tue 08:19

@Vi no, not yet
Sona Tue 08:19

Let's call it significant evidence, ok Ezreal?
Poppy Tue 08:19

Hey Kass
Kassadin Tue 08:19

I regret my plan. After I went to bed, there was way too much stuff to read.
Poppy Tue 08:19

any interesting info?
Ezreal Tue 08:19

don't know who to kill
Poppy Tue 08:20

you didn't share yesterday's stalk check, Kass!
Ezreal Tue 08:20

too much too read
Kassadin Tue 08:20

I stalked Maokai n1
Tue 08:20

he didn't visit anyone
Ezreal Tue 08:20

I think I will shoot Sona tonight though, she gives me the creep
Sona Tue 08:20

So that's why you thought he was coven
Tue 08:21

Yeah, kill me
Kassadin Tue 08:21

let's say I knew he wasn't seer.
Poppy Tue 08:21

and today's check, Kass? Is it helpful to share it now?
Vi Tue 08:21

Kinda wanna hear from Ahri
Poppy Tue 08:21

or do you want to wait until target speaks?
Sona Tue 08:21

Why?
Tue 08:21

she shot her target
Vi Tue 08:22

We're having more than 2 militias claim right now
Tue 08:22

I want to hear from militias
Sona Tue 08:22

ok, quick role summary
Tue 08:22

Brand - Reviver
Tue 08:22

Kassadin - Stalker
Tue 08:24

Lux - Stalker
Tue 08:25

Poppy - Stalker
Tue 08:25

Corki - ?
Tue 08:25

Ezreal - Militia
Tue 08:25

Lissandra - (GR)
Tue 08:25

Jhin - GD
Tue 08:25

Ahri - Militia
Tue 08:25

Sona - GR
Tue 08:25

Varus - ?
Tue 08:25

Lucian, Vi - ML
Tue 08:25

Viktor - ?
Tue 08:25

Orianna - ?
Tue 08:26

Teemo - Reviver
Tue 08:26

Veigar - GD
Tue 08:26

Twisted - GD
Tue 08:26

Zilean - Reviver
Tue 08:27

(My browser crashed in the middle)
Kassadin Tue 08:27

Firefox?
Sona Tue 08:27

No, Internet Explorer
Tue 08:28

so we have:
Poppy Tue 08:28

ok, g2g. good luck, and check back in later
Sona Tue 08:29

3/2 GDs ,, (2)/1 GR ,, 3/2 Revivers .. 3/3 Stalkers ,, 3/2 Militia ,, 2/2 Mason Leaders
Moderator Tue 08:30

Sona votes to lynch Ezreal
Moderator Tue 08:30

Ezreal votes to lynch Sona
Ezreal Tue 08:30

blood for blood
Sona Tue 08:31

The only other option is that Karthus was coven
Tue 08:31

But why would a coven claim Militia?
Vi Tue 08:31

Oh my, fwiw Ezreal and Sona are a couple in LOL
Sona Tue 08:31

And even then, it's most likely that Ezreal tried to recruit him / killed him
Ezreal Tue 08:32

lol, great reasoning
Tue 08:32

I will give you time to self-reflect on that and find your own logic hole
Sona Tue 08:32

Please, point it out to me
Ezreal Tue 08:34

I don't know what and how Karthus claimed
Vi Tue 08:34

(We need Kassadin's night 2 check)
Ezreal Tue 08:34

but I'm militia and I haven't been shot
Jhin Tue 08:35

Hello
Ezreal Tue 08:35

Karthus could be coven, or he didn't shoot, or forget to shoot
Sona Tue 08:35

Hi Jhin, Veigar saw the plan
Ezreal Tue 08:35

srsly if I was VM the last thing I would do last night is killing Karthus
Ahri Tue 08:35

hey
Tue 08:35

I shot Warwick last night
Veigar Tue 08:35

I'm here
Tue 08:35

And will be here for an hour
Kassadin Tue 08:36

I want to wait a bit with my claim.
Tue 08:36

eh check
Veigar Tue 08:36

I have some questions
Moderator Tue 08:36

Ahri votes to lynch Ezreal
Sona Tue 08:36

What were your option, Ezreal?
Veigar Tue 08:37

Can a Vampire master kill a Vampire master at night?
Kassadin Tue 08:37

no
Ahri Tue 08:37

I think Ezreal is VM and he was afraid that if Karthus shot him and he's not dead, and Karthus was alive to tell it
Veigar Tue 08:37

what about Fam on the day he/she was recruited?
Kassadin Tue 08:37

You can,t purge, block, redirect, kill, shoot, fuck, recruit vamps
Moderator Tue 08:37

Veigar votes to lynch Ezreal
Vi Tue 08:38

Well...If Ahri is lit, then neither Karthus nor Ezreal is
Ahri Tue 08:38

hmm is VM vulnerable in the night that he recruit like vampire is?
Sona Tue 08:38

Fam's are protected during recruits
Vi Tue 08:38

Because Ori is mili and she shot Karthus
Kassadin Tue 08:38

Vi why?
Ahri Tue 08:38

we have 2 militia
Veigar Tue 08:38

Oh
Sona Tue 08:38

But if two vamps recruit the same person, that person dies
Kassadin Tue 08:38

yes but Ez claimed he didn't shoot
Veigar Tue 08:38

What? That's new
Kassadin Tue 08:39

no
Tue 08:39

old
Sona Tue 08:39

ok, that's good to know
Moderator Tue 08:39

Vi votes to lynch Ezreal
Kassadin Tue 08:39

I still don't get it
Veigar Tue 08:39

Vamp claiming Militia is popular
Kassadin Tue 08:39

Vi can you explain
Sona Tue 08:40

Orianna, a member of the mason, is a militia
Veigar Tue 08:40

we've got a plan and pp were repeating it like forever, militias should have shot
Sona Tue 08:40

she shot Karthus
Ahri Tue 08:40

oh really?
Sona Tue 08:40

according to her mason leader, vi
Vi Tue 08:40

There are only 2 militias, Ori is one of the militia, so 2 of the 3 militias are lying
Ahri Tue 08:40

so Karthus was coven
Kassadin Tue 08:40

why was he coven?
Vi Tue 08:40

I tend to believe Ahri
Sona Tue 08:40

Sorry, Ezreal, working with incomplete information
Ahri Tue 08:41

yes I shot Warwick last night
Sona Tue 08:41

Why did you shoot him ?!
Veigar Tue 08:41

So Ori shot Karthus, and Ahri shot Warick?
Ahri Tue 08:41

didn't I announce it yesterday?
Kassadin Tue 08:41

I want to hear from Corki
Sona Tue 08:41

I meant orianna
Moderator Tue 08:41

Kassadin votes to lynch Corki
Vi Tue 08:41

Ahri, anything else?
Sona Tue 08:42

But Ezreal is evil, but for a different reason
Ahri Tue 08:42

@Vi not sure if I get your point but maybe yes
Kassadin Tue 08:42

Sona explain.
Vi Tue 08:42

Good
Sona Tue 08:42

He is claiming militia
Vi Tue 08:42

I think we hit the right guy
Sona Tue 08:42

But 2 other already claimed Miltia
Kassadin Tue 08:42

that's not a different reason
Tue 08:43

that's the same reason we just talked about for the last 40 mins
Tue 08:43

So what you want to say?
Sona Tue 08:43

My initial reason was that a militia claim, who was supposed to shoot Ezreal, died
Tue 08:43

And that Ezreal didn't die
Kassadin Tue 08:44

It's a fking dumb move to kill the militia who shoots you. It's not like it would prevent anything or change anything.
Tue 08:44

You can't even die from it
Tue 08:44

why kill him
Vi Tue 08:44

But Ori killed Karthus...
Kassadin Tue 08:44

I knoooow
Sona Tue 08:44

yes, so let's forget abt that
Kassadin Tue 08:45

fml this game goes on my nerves
Veigar Tue 08:45

what if both Ori and Ez killed Karthus?
Kassadin Tue 08:45

where the fuck is korki
Tue 08:45

corki
Ahri Tue 08:45

I don't know who ezreal is but if he claims militia then we should surely lynch him
Veigar Tue 08:45

Ez didn't know if Ori shot Karthus or not
Tue 08:46

If Ez is VM, he will want to kill Karthus
Ahri Tue 08:46

we only have 2 militias
Tue 08:46

Veigar, I'm 1
Vi Tue 08:46

Ez himself said he did not use his bullet
Sona Tue 08:46

Actually no, Veigar
Tue 08:46

Being dead gives Karthus more credit (?)
Veigar Tue 08:47

another brain hack
Ahri Tue 08:47

but guys, anyone know if VM is vulnerable in the recruit night like normal vampire?
Kassadin Tue 08:47

a normal vampire is not vunerable
Tue 08:47

ffs.
Tue 08:47

I'm out
Sona Tue 08:47

^^^^
Ahri Tue 08:47

?
Tue 08:47

vampire can be killed at the night he recruits
Kassadin Tue 08:47

if corki shows up tell him to speak the fuck up. I'm sick of being a speaking H2P
Veigar Tue 08:48

With 2 vamps and maybe 3 recruitments, sorry but I think we better lynch a militia/VM rather than other roles
Ahri Tue 08:48

if it was the case then Karthus might be a recruiting vampire, then he's now in his familiar's body
Kassadin Tue 08:48

read the fucking h2p
Tue 08:48

and leave me alone
Veigar Tue 08:48

Kass, h2p has nothing on VM
Tue 08:48

calm down, guys
Kassadin Tue 08:48

IT'S LIKEA VAMP
Tue 08:48

VAMPIRE VAMPIRE MASTER
Tue 08:48

V A M P I R E
Tue 08:48

SAME FUCKING RULES APPLY FUCK
Veigar Tue 08:48

pls calm down
Kassadin Tue 08:49

fucking no
Sona Tue 08:49

It's a subclass of the Vampire
Kassadin Tue 08:49

x games in a row I fking explain fking Vamp
Veigar Tue 08:49

if you don't want to be a speaking h2p, just ignore us ^^
Tue 08:50

I hope Sona is lit, she's leading the plan from beginning
Tue 08:50

Did you rob, Sona?
Sona Tue 08:50

please make Kassadin not see this
Tue 08:50

No
Veigar Tue 08:50

why? wait for more info?
Sona Tue 08:50

because everyone told me to not rob
Kassadin Tue 08:51

everyone tells me to be nice. Doesn't help either.
Vi Tue 08:51

N̶o̶
Tue 08:51

There you go
Sona Tue 08:51

I think deep inside you're a very nice person, Kassadin
Kassadin Tue 08:52

a flower?
Tue 08:52

a beautiful flower?
Sona Tue 08:52

��
Kassadin Tue 08:53

your fucking beautiful brilliant flower wants to hear from Corki
Brand Tue 08:53

Ahri [Tue 08:47] ? [Tue 08:47] vampire can be killed at the night he recruits
Tue 08:53

Vampire is permanently night immune
Kassadin Tue 08:53

NOPE NOPE NOPE
Brand Tue 08:53

Even if they don't do anything
Kassadin Tue 08:53

eh yes
Tue 08:53

for Brand
Brand Tue 08:53

They can't be messed with
Tue 08:53

(do do do, can't touch this)
Kassadin Tue 08:53

Brand is here. Brand where is Corki?
Sona Tue 08:54

Brand, did you revive last night? :P
Kassadin Tue 08:54

lol
Brand Tue 08:54

Sona, yes, I revived last night
Kassadin Tue 08:54

Brand are you a wolf?
Brand Tue 08:54

Can't you see?
Tue 08:54

I revived Kassadin
Sona Tue 08:54

I think people have this romantic image of the Vampire Master having some weakness, or that his abilities come with a trade-off
Kassadin Tue 08:54

you revived the evil within
Tue 08:54

ok f corki
Brand Tue 08:54

He somehow became comatose yesterday
Tue 08:55

So I revived him and now here he is
Veigar Tue 08:55

funny
Kassadin Tue 08:55

I slept 12 hours, your assessment is on point Brand.
Brand Tue 08:55

No, I didn't revive - I will announce my revive ahead of time
Sona Tue 08:56

Where's the reveal, Kassadin?
Kassadin Tue 08:56

comatose for 12 hours
Brand Tue 08:56

Also, gotta dash
Tue 08:56

Will check back at lunch
Kassadin Tue 08:56

I WANT TO HEAR FROM FUCKING CORKI, IT'S IMPORTANT
Sona Tue 08:56

Tue 08:54 ok f corki
Brand Tue 08:56

(p.s. Can we kill Lucian? ;>)
Sona Tue 08:56

As much as I like you, Brand, no
Kassadin Tue 08:57

yeah f him, and the rest of you.
Tue 08:57

but where the f is he
Sona Tue 08:57

so nice again
Veigar Tue 08:57

Sona, I will have to go
Tue 08:57

what time did you said for a Gd's meeting party?
Kassadin Tue 08:57

12
Sona Tue 08:57

let me look it up
Kassadin Tue 08:57

even I read it
Tue 08:57

and I was comatose
Veigar Tue 08:58

Can't be. I'm traveling, and will only be here for about an hour more
Kassadin Tue 08:58

................
Tue 08:58

. . .
Sona Tue 08:58

When are you done traveling?
Kassadin Tue 08:59

meta
Tue 08:59

next question
Veigar Tue 08:59

3-4 hour before midnight, I think
Tue 08:59

but not sure
Sona Tue 08:59

christ
Veigar Tue 08:59

Who's in the Gd list?
Kassadin Tue 08:59

C O R K I
Tue 08:59

you son of a witch
Veigar Tue 09:00

Me, Jihn and Twist?
Sona Tue 09:00

btw, the time was 13:30
Tue 09:00

@Kassadin
Kassadin Tue 09:00

you changed it again?
Tue 09:00

of ffs
Sona Tue 09:00

Twisted didn't want to get up at 6 am
Veigar Tue 09:01

It was meta, wasn't it?
Sona Tue 09:01

Yes, because people have a life
Kassadin Tue 09:01

who?
Tue 09:01

I don't
Tue 09:01

I only got anger issues
Tue 09:01

can we just vote corki, I need him so I can slap him
Tue 09:01

and then..
Sona Tue 09:02

I feel like I could take a pause from life
Tue 09:02

because currently, life = lying in bed, sick, playing werewolf
Veigar Tue 09:02

Kass, sorry if it makes you feel worse, but I sus you a little bit ^^
Moderator Tue 09:03

Sona votes to lynch Corki
Moderator Tue 09:03

Vi votes to lynch Corki
Vi Tue 09:03

Eh
Kassadin Tue 09:03

Veigar, I'd confess VM right now if it would make Corki show up
Vi Tue 09:03

Oh no you didn't!
Kassadin Tue 09:04

he just did this to piss me off and make me tilt.
Tue 09:04

I know it
Veigar Tue 09:04

Don't make him satisfy, Kass
Vi Tue 09:04

Lemme guess, he didn't speak at night did he :P
Sona Tue 09:04

Kassadin is the Stalker that has found a Vampire Master and wants to see Corki's face when they are convicted
Vi Tue 09:04

That soab
Kassadin Tue 09:05

who ever finds out first what I'm accusing corki off gets a fucking cookie
Tue 09:05

I hinted at it
Veigar Tue 09:06

Your hint sounds like corki is a wolf to me. Unfortunately we don't have wolves lol
Vi Tue 09:06

He visited you!
Kassadin Tue 09:06

yes -_-
Vi Tue 09:07

GIMMIE MY COOKIES
Kassadin Tue 09:07

that's no role!
Tue 09:07

You get some cookie crumbs for this
Sona Tue 09:07

Alchemist?
Vi Tue 09:07

Ayeeee
Veigar Tue 09:08

Wow
Vi Tue 09:08

Still food at least
Kassadin Tue 09:08

WHERE THE FUCK IS MY ROLE YOU BASTARD
Sona Tue 09:08

WHERE THE FUCK IS MY COOKIE YOU BASTARD
Kassadin Tue 09:08

*gives soma and vi a cookie*
Veigar Tue 09:08

that explains Kass' anger lol
Kassadin Tue 09:08

-_-
Moderator Tue 09:08

Veigar votes to lynch Corki
Vi Tue 09:09

Y'know, he can be a seer or protector...
Veigar Tue 09:09

Anw if we have to choose between lynching a VM and a Coven, I rather lynch a VM
Sona Tue 09:09

Nearly as bad as stalking the vamp and seeing him kill you
Kassadin Tue 09:09

that's why I wanted him to speak up
Tue 09:09

It's not like I wasn't waiting you know
Tue 09:09

calm and peaceful
Tue 09:10

PEACEFUL
Tue 09:10

It's both shit, if he's coven they can swap him out :/
Veigar Tue 09:10

Now what's your new role, Kass?
Kassadin Tue 09:10

vanulla
Veigar Tue 09:11

that's bad
Ahri Tue 09:11

what a pity that both militias have shot last night
Kassadin Tue 09:11

we could lynch corki and stalk Ez. I don't know. Both shit. And I'm out of roles.
Ahri Tue 09:11

or we can lynch Ez and shoot Corki
Kassadin Tue 09:11

with what=
Vi Tue 09:11

That works
Veigar Tue 09:12

do we have any lit Stalkers left?
Vi Tue 09:12

Lynch Ez AND Corki
Ahri Tue 09:12

Ez is likely to be VM, keeping him alive = let him recruit
Kassadin Tue 09:12

corki wont be corki tomorrow
Moderator Tue 09:12

Vi votes to lynch Ezreal
Kassadin Tue 09:12

if we stalk him we know who he recuits
Vi Tue 09:12

Screw him, I want to limit the killing power
Kassadin Tue 09:12

in before he becomes a witch :P
Veigar Tue 09:12

3 fams, Kass. We can't risk
Ahri Tue 09:12

what if he recruits the stalker that stalks him?
Moderator Tue 09:12

Veigar votes to lynch Ezreal
Kassadin Tue 09:13

if we trust ahri and the masons he already has recruited
Tue 09:13

both militia kills
Tue 09:13

so no vamp kills = two fams
Tue 09:13

You wont limit shit
Vi Tue 09:13

If we hit the right guy then Liss was one of the vamp, the other vamp recruited
Kassadin Tue 09:13

but then ahri is lying
Vi Tue 09:13

or both vamp recruited
Kassadin Tue 09:13

oh nvm
Tue 09:13

sry
Tue 09:14

I know what you mean
Vi Tue 09:14

Ahri, I want you to reveal
Tue 09:14

:3
Ahri Tue 09:14

@Vi do you think it's good?
Veigar Tue 09:14

ahri already said it, didn't she?
Vi Tue 09:14

SORRY FOR THE CAT FACE
Kassadin Tue 09:14

:3
Vi Tue 09:14

Yeah I think
Veigar Tue 09:14

who didn't claim?
Kassadin Tue 09:14

ok this sounds crazy but hear me out:
Ahri Tue 09:15

ok I'm in mason now
Tue 09:15

recruited last night
Kassadin Tue 09:15

let's make an orgy.
Tue 09:15

Eh w8...
Tue 09:15

wrong game
Veigar Tue 09:15

ohhhh, Vi confirmed?
Kassadin Tue 09:15

Vi can only confirm next day
Tue 09:16

even a fam gets recruitment message
Tue 09:16

see 170
Vi Tue 09:16

Yeah
Veigar Tue 09:16

that's true
Kassadin Tue 09:16

Back to my point:
Veigar Tue 09:16

sorry for making you speaking h2p again, kass
Sona Tue 09:16

So saying it was unnecessary, Ahri
Ahri Tue 09:16

@Sona but Vi wanted that
Kassadin Tue 09:17

Hello, you're speaking to the Kassadin H2P service. Use "!help vampire" for further information
Sona Tue 09:17

Should the other recruit reveal too?
Tue 09:17

!help Kassadin
Vi Tue 09:17

Lucian got the harem now :D
Tue 09:18

One more question
Tue 09:18

WHo recruited you Ahri
Ahri Tue 09:18

Lucian
Vi Tue 09:18

Okay so ocnfirmed
Ahri Tue 09:18

!help vampire
Kassadin Tue 09:18

not rly, but ok. I still wanted to make a point
Ahri Tue 09:18

!help orgy
Kassadin Tue 09:18

H2P: please stand by your search is in progress
Vi Tue 09:19

Aaaaaaaand okay maybe the other recruit should reveal too
Tue 09:19

To gain more credit
Kassadin Tue 09:19

I wanted to say we should not kill EZ
Sona Tue 09:19

Oh wait, that's me!
Vi Tue 09:19

Yep
Tue 09:19

Mah girlz
Kassadin Tue 09:19

now you may ask why
Tue 09:19

if we lynch EZ we lose track
Vi Tue 09:20

/kill Ezreal
Sona Tue 09:20

so we find a new track
Veigar Tue 09:20

having a VM alive is too dangerous
Sona Tue 09:21

(the point is that the VM wont die because he most likely has recruited)
Veigar Tue 09:21

Did any body notice that Jihn showed up then disappeared?
Kassadin Tue 09:21

aye
Tue 09:21

so we limit shit
Sona Tue 09:21

But we can go by talking and stuff, right?
Kassadin Tue 09:22

depends who he recruited
Tue 09:22

if he recruited someone like me, he's fucked.
Vi Tue 09:22

It's not that lynching the coven would do any better y'know
Ahri Tue 09:22

between vampire and coven I think we should always try to eliminate VM first, because 1. they're infectious , 2. they can kill
Kassadin Tue 09:22

but then the search begins anew
Veigar Tue 09:22

Totally agreed, Ahri
Ahri Tue 09:22

if all vamps are dead and only coven left, it's still easier
Tue 09:23

covens can't kil
Kassadin Tue 09:23

they can
Veigar Tue 09:23

we have 3 stalkers (one lost his power)
Kassadin Tue 09:23

if they get a witch
Veigar Tue 09:23

and seer
Vi Tue 09:23

Can constantly kill*
Veigar Tue 09:23

let them do their job, Kass
Kassadin Tue 09:23

you can't stalk a djinn
Ahri Tue 09:23

but no witch this game Kass
Kassadin Tue 09:23

do I have to h2p again?
Sona Tue 09:23

alchemist = wildcard
Veigar Tue 09:23

No
Ahri Tue 09:24

ah umm
Tue 09:24

but with a witch, killing power is still much less
Vi Tue 09:24

^
Kassadin Tue 09:24

yes, but lynching EZ wont reduce power
Veigar Tue 09:24

lynching a VM will reduce a fam
Vi Tue 09:25

You're too keen on protecting Ez now
Kassadin Tue 09:25

lynch me then.
Vi Tue 09:25

We have 2 legit militias, so Ez is obviously lying
Tue 09:25

It's best to lynch him
Kassadin Tue 09:25

I'm useless now
Ahri Tue 09:25

but we'll still in progress of eliminating all vampires
Tue 09:25

IF we don't kill the fams, we still have to kill them later anyway
Sona Tue 09:25

That is, unless a stalker saw EZ visit someone xD
Kassadin Tue 09:25

fighting vm is like playing whack a mole
Vi Tue 09:25

Yeah
Kassadin Tue 09:26

we lynch es, he revives into fam, recruits again
Sona Tue 09:26

So ... we do what?
Ahri Tue 09:26

and if we don't lynch Ez?
Vi Tue 09:26

imo, Vamp's recruitment is the stronger version of killing
Kassadin Tue 09:26

we stalk him until we find the fam
Ahri Tue 09:26

he still recruit, and has even more fams
Vi Tue 09:26

Vamp killed that person the moment he recruited
Veigar Tue 09:26

if we don't, he's still here and will recruit anyway
Ahri Tue 09:27

hey listen, if we're lucky, then Ezreal may thought Karthus was a real militia last night, and he tried to kill him at the same time Karthus was shot by Ori
Tue 09:27

so he may have no fams right now
Veigar Tue 09:27

that's what I said
Ahri Tue 09:28

yea I'm saying to Kass
Vi Tue 09:28

So, to-do list:
Tue 09:28

1. Lynch Ez
Tue 09:28

2. Ask for Corki's role
Tue 09:28

3. Ask for Varus and Viktor's
Tue 09:29

4. Enjoy the night life
Sona Tue 09:29

Parteyyy
Ahri Tue 09:29

Orgyyy
Kassadin Tue 09:29

Ahri that's like hoping the the stork brought you to this world. It sounds convenient but you know it's not true
Veigar Tue 09:29

I think I can give a name to the revivers to use their power
Tue 09:30

but let's hear from others 1st
Ahri Tue 09:30

it is possible, and even if it's not true, we will still come closer to eliminating all the vampires
Kassadin Tue 09:30

with 2 Stalkers still alive I still think it's smarter to find fams/fake claims first
Tue 09:31

But who would listen to me. I'm no expert in Vampirism
Tue 09:31

Never ever been one ever.
Veigar Tue 09:31

other 2 stalkers are....?
Sona Tue 09:31

Kassadin being a fam would be too obvious, right?
Kassadin Tue 09:31

Yeah it would.
Veigar Tue 09:32

Seer should check
Kassadin Tue 09:32

Look that's the fun about VM. And even if I am, what you gonna do about it :D
Tue 09:32

that's why I made this whole plan
Tue 09:32

normal play doesn't work
Sona Tue 09:32

I don't know how keeping Ez alive would help you find his familiar
Kassadin Tue 09:33

he can't take more fams.
Tue 09:33

or if he does we instantly know
Sona Tue 09:33

But we don't get closer to eliminating him
Kassadin Tue 09:34

for this I have this whole early role claim thing set up
Tue 09:34

so we find the ppl. who changed
Tue 09:34

militias are out
Sona Tue 09:34

But wont we inhibit the Familiar even more if they were a Vamp?
Veigar Tue 09:36

but it wastes stalkers on him, Kass. At this moment we have 2 VMs and maybe 2 fams to catch. Lynch Ez = 1 VM + 3 fams at night or 2 fams + 1 kill . If not lynch Ez = 2 VM + 4 fams or 2 fam 2 kill or 3 fam 1 kill -> not good
Kassadin Tue 09:36

this game is a catch 22
Sona Tue 09:37

Catching Vamp is easier than catching Fam?
Kassadin Tue 09:37

I think so
Tue 09:37

well it's like this
Tue 09:37

we got an open setup, we got a role count
Sona Tue 09:37

Although we might need to catch the vamp 3 times
Tue 09:37

instead of the Fam once
Kassadin Tue 09:38

we got the militias out, I think we can weed out the evil rly fast
Tue 09:38

like we got by the claims, we got 2 miltias who shot
Tue 09:38

how many ppl. have not claimed yet or are in a conflict?
Veigar Tue 09:39

3 gds, Corki, Varus, Viktor din't claim
Tue 09:39

Gds thing can be clear out today
Sona Tue 09:39

5
Tue 09:40

2 roles are in conflict, and 3 haven't claimed yet
Tue 09:40

plus the two n1 deaths
Kassadin Tue 09:40

that's 5
Tue 09:40

we got no vanilla
Sona Tue 09:40

2 roles in conflict = 6 players
Tue 09:40

But the GD's should sort out today
Veigar Tue 09:40

what is the other role, sona?
Sona Tue 09:41

rev
Kassadin Tue 09:41

we got too many?
Veigar Tue 09:41

oh three
Kassadin Tue 09:41

yep
Tue 09:41

hmm
Veigar Tue 09:41

what should we do with the revivers?
Sona Tue 09:41

And there should be a Protector lingering somewhere ?!
Veigar Tue 09:41

and seer
Sona Tue 09:42

Unless it was Warwick or they did the mistake of not protecting themselves in the first night
Veigar Tue 09:43

Sona?
Sona Tue 09:43

wait, warwik didn't move n1
Ahri Tue 09:43

let's wait for GD results first, the roles may be a bit clearer then
Sona Tue 09:43

yes, Veigar?
Veigar Tue 09:44

Gds digged Graves, not War, Ahri
Ahri Tue 09:44

yes, warwick didn't move if Lux (did I remember corerectly?) is lit
Veigar Tue 09:44

I will be back about 3-4 hours before midnight
Sona Tue 09:44

ok
Kassadin Tue 09:44

this is bad :/
Ahri Tue 09:44

I said about the roles in general, not warwick alone
Kassadin Tue 09:44

it means we can't solve the gd thing early
Veigar Tue 09:44

do you think we can wait until this time to have all Gds speak?
Tue 09:45

what time were they online yesterday?
Ahri Tue 09:45

they both was online very late
Kassadin Tue 09:45

fuck
Ahri Tue 09:46

I hate that
Veigar Tue 09:46

we have a target to lynch, I think it's ok to wait
Ahri Tue 09:46

they should have deserved to be lynched
Sona Tue 09:46

They said they'd meet at 13:30
Veigar Tue 09:46

I wasn't there when you guys inform the time
Tue 09:46

if so we would have made it earlier
Sona Tue 09:47

verify veigar tomorrow?
Veigar Tue 09:47

Have some feeling that I'm the only lit Gd, Sona
Sona Tue 09:47

ew
Ahri Tue 09:48

13:30 game time? what game time would you be available today Veigar?
Veigar Tue 09:49

16 ~ 17:00 game time I think
Sona Tue 09:50

Sorry guys, my nose is killing me :( I'll be back later
Veigar Tue 09:53

I can show up at 13:30 for a while but I will be using my phone. It lags.
Tue 09:53

Hopefully I can post on the same time with others
Tue 09:53

but will put an alarm for it
Ahri Tue 09:58

thanks, pls try your best
Tue 09:58

I would like to give my idea in advance, for the GD results reveal
Veigar Tue 09:59

what is it?
Ahri Tue 09:59

we should apply some rules to write the results so that it takes more time to type
Tue 09:59

for example, "seer" can be typed very quickly
Tue 09:59

but apply some rules, for example "S e E r"
Veigar Tue 09:59

Nice
Ahri Tue 09:59

make it harder to copy other's result
Veigar Tue 10:00

but with mouse, its just a copy and a paste
Ahri Tue 10:00

2 spaces between characters, and mixing uppercase/lowercase
Veigar Tue 10:00

but good
Ahri Tue 10:00

copy & paste still take more than 1 sec
Veigar Tue 10:00

make sure you inform it later
Ahri Tue 10:01

someone should remember to help informing it in case I'm not online when GDs reveal
Veigar Tue 10:01

we can type it already before you count
Ahri Tue 10:01

yes
Tue 10:01

we should give them 30 secs to type it down
Veigar Tue 10:01

as soon as you reach 1, we just enter -> fast enough
Ahri Tue 10:02

then count down from 3, when 0 is seen, everyone enter
Tue 10:02

ah we can apply different rules for different GDs
Tue 10:02

so they cannot copy each other
Veigar Tue 10:02

you're brillian, Ahri lol
Tue 10:03

can you post mine 1st, i will prepare it now
Ahri Tue 10:03

like uppercase for Veigar, lowercase for Lux
Tue 10:03

thanks ^^
Corki Tue 10:03

morning
Veigar Tue 10:03

Like V e I g A r to me?
Ahri Tue 10:03

yes, like that
Veigar Tue 10:03

I'll start with a Cap, 1 space every letter
Tue 10:04

got it, see you at 13:30
Ahri Tue 10:04

see you ;)
Corki Tue 10:05

alright
Vi Tue 10:05

corki what is your role
Ahri Tue 10:05

Corki, claim
Corki Tue 10:05

3 votes on me
Veigar Tue 10:05

Corki, what;s your role?
Corki Tue 10:05

stalker
Tue 10:05

i stalked Kassadi
Veigar Tue 10:05

oh, everybody's here
Tue 10:05

I'll be off, see ya
Corki Tue 10:05

one of the 3 stalker yesterday was a liar
Ahri Tue 10:05

did Kass reveal who he stalked?
Corki Tue 10:05

yes
Ahri Tue 10:05

if not we can verify corki's results
Corki Tue 10:06

as i read yesterday chat
Ahri Tue 10:06

i mean did kass reveal his last night result
Veigar Tue 10:06

your total result check, pls
Corki Tue 10:06

kassadin, lux and poppy
Veigar Tue 10:06

yes
Corki Tue 10:06

they claimed stakl
Tue 10:06

er
Veigar Tue 10:06

N1 Maokai didn't visit anyone
Corki Tue 10:06

i stalked Maokai N1
Tue 10:06

visit none
Tue 10:07

last9 n2 : kassadin
Tue 10:07

he visited me
Vi Tue 10:07

U huh
Veigar Tue 10:07

wait, you're confirming Kass's N1?
Tue 10:07

*have to go but too excited with Corki
Ahri Tue 10:07

kass also stalked moakai N1?
Corki Tue 10:07

confirm what?
Veigar Tue 10:07

yes as he said
Corki Tue 10:08

he did not said yesterday
Tue 10:08

o.O
Veigar Tue 10:08

I thought he did?
Corki Tue 10:08

neeed to check back
Tue 10:08

but i kinda confirm kassadin
Veigar Tue 10:08

Anw couldnt remember it's today or yesterday, but my note said that Kass checked Maokai N1 and didn't visit anyone
Corki Tue 10:09

he visited me last night
Veigar Tue 10:09

but Kass said you stole his role, Corki
Corki Tue 10:09

no
Tue 10:09

but he visited me and he knew i visited him
Tue 10:10

if his role was stolen
Tue 10:10

must be another visitor
Veigar Tue 10:10

hum.... interesting
Tue 10:10

ok really need to go, bye
Corki Tue 10:10

or he was recruited with another role
Veigar Tue 10:10

make sure you will be back, Corki
Corki Tue 10:11

i really thought that someone gonna shoot me last9
Ahri Tue 10:11

i still think Corki is very suspectious, his result can be easily made up, but we have a good lynch today so let's keep verifying Corki later
Corki Tue 10:11

i will be back
Tue 10:12

i did not online yesterday and maoki death wasn't a good info if i come out so early
Tue 10:13

didn't have time to come back
Tue 10:13

total role call really surprised me
Tue 10:14

btw, who's the goodlynch? Ahri
Ahri Tue 10:15

Ezreal
Corki Tue 10:17

but how can i stole kassadin role
Tue 10:17

he means he has been purged?
Moderator Tue 10:17

Corki votes to lynch Ezreal
Corki Tue 10:18

im on phone now
Tue 10:18

will try to read back abt Ez
Ahri Tue 10:18

yes he said he has been purged
Corki Tue 10:26

we need to check it
Tue 10:26

seems a waste stalk last9 for me
Lucian Tue 10:27

L
Tue 10:27

Hum...
Tue 10:28

Are you here Vi?
Vi Tue 10:28

Here here :D
Lucian Tue 10:29

You forgot the code
Tue 10:29

Evil!
Vi Tue 10:29

No...
Tue 10:29

You may reread
Lucian Tue 10:29

JK
Tue 10:30

Anyway
Vi Tue 10:30

hehe :D
Lucian Tue 10:30

Karthus is evil
Tue 10:30

Cause 2 MILI COMFIMED
Tue 10:30

AHIRI and ORI
Tue 10:31

That mean
Moderator Tue 10:31

Lucian votes to lynch Ezreal
Vi Tue 10:31

The Mason may now be called "Lucian's harem"
Lucian Tue 10:31

Yay :D
Ahri Tue 10:31

parteyyy toniteeee
Vi Tue 10:32

DRINKS ON MEEEE
Lucian Tue 10:32

NOICE!
Orianna Tue 10:32

Orion is a delicous snack did you know? :>
Moderator Tue 10:33

Orianna votes to lynch Ezreal
Vi Tue 10:35

No, I don't know :P
Orianna Tue 10:35

:<
Vi Tue 10:37

:'D
Orianna Tue 10:37

It had been a few years since i ate that snack so i dont know if it is still good :P
Moderator Tue 10:38

Zilean votes to lynch Ezreal
Vi Tue 10:39

Well I think it is not as good as you think it is
Tue 10:39

Zilean! How's the purge going?
Poppy Tue 10:39

If only you'd reroll stalker, Kass ;/
Vi Tue 10:40

Poppy! Who did you stalk
Poppy Tue 10:43

Won't say rn, the result may lead us to either important villager or to VM, probably. So need to wait for this to develop, if you'll allow me :)
Ahri Tue 10:45

but you should only wait within today
Tue 10:46

I don't think you should keep it until tmr, anyone may die tonight, or even be recruited
Poppy Tue 10:46

Oh, definitelyI!
Sona Tue 11:29

The worst thing about being away is having to read
Tue 11:35

Corki's results are weirdly coincidental
Tue 11:35

Feel made up
Varus Tue 11:57

so despite being trusted, lucian didn't recruit me
Sona Tue 11:57

So you may claim now
Varus Tue 11:57

but verifying 2 militias in masons is nice
Moderator Tue 11:58

Varus votes to lynch Ezreal
Varus Tue 11:58

you said may, so, I'll take my time, thank you
Tue 11:58

currently outside, just a quick bathroom break, later
Sona Tue 11:59

has your condition be met?
Lucian Tue 12:02

Because youy are so comfirmed too be a member xD
Tue 12:02

I trust your words
Kassadin Tue 12:02

still no prot claim
Tue 12:02

Corki basically mirrored me?
Tue 12:03

one would even say "stalked" me.
Tue 12:03

but he basically said what I said, just later.
Tue 12:05

This game tilts me for some reason.
Tue 12:13

cya tomorrow or something.
Lucian Tue 12:16

kk
Jhin Tue 12:45

Can someone remind me why Ez should be VM?
Tue 12:47

I noticed Veigar kept suggesting the lynch but I have reasons to distrust him.
Poppy Tue 12:49

If I recall correctly: 2 militia, 1 of them Mason, tried to shoot them. The militia who was supposed to shoot Ez, Karthus, was killed (the Mason militia didn't announce shot)
Jhin Tue 12:51

I missed the logic about Karthus' death proving Ezrael's evil na.
Tue 12:51

true.
Tue 12:51

Nature.
Tue 12:52

Wasn't K proved false? And subsequently shot by Ori.
Tue 12:54

Anyway: I've been purged unfortunately. I did get my GD result though.
Tue 12:55

I know several ways in which this pm's reveal can go wrong:
Tue 12:57

- more than one of us could be lying. How would you respond if I claimed to have found a GD?
Tue 12:59

- It is easy for two Coven to frame the 3rd claim.
Kassadin Tue 13:02

Jhin I also don't get what makes EZ instantly VM. I think coven/puppet has a similar chance.
Tue 13:02

So wit h1 GD dead and 3 claims, you say 2 are wrong right?
Tue 13:03

*with
Jhin Tue 13:03

- it is easy for one Coven to have GD info without having dug anyone ifson
Tue 13:04

If the dead person was Coven.
Kassadin Tue 13:05

So who did you check? Was my suspicion right?
Poppy Tue 13:06

Fair remarks, Jhin
Jhin Tue 13:06

@Kass: hypothetically yes. But I didn't find a GD.
Kassadin Tue 13:07

So why this whole thing?
Jhin Tue 13:08

It's just that I felt uncomfortable being told who to dig and what to say and when.
Tue 13:09

I wanted to dig our lynch. I don't necesscarily trust Sona.
Tue 13:11

She has had incredible influence so far and I find little evidence in her claims. Unlike the mason claims.
Tue 13:14

I appreciate we need to run a tight ship with 2 VMs but I have had very little chance to get to trust the captains.
Sona Tue 13:15

(I was recruited into the mason) :P
Tue 13:17

Can Masons be purged?
Tue 13:17

Do they lose Mason chat?
Jhin Tue 13:18

Anyway, I'm struggling with my tablet and am not going to bother with fancy typography. Graves ' identity was... (start drumroll)
Sona Tue 13:18

not now
Jhin Tue 13:18

@Sona yes they do
Sona Tue 13:19

weird .... why purge /you/?
Jhin Tue 13:20

If you missed anyone in MC then you or they have d.
Tue 13:20

Been compromised.
Tue 13:21
Tue 13:22

Re: purge: to cast suspicion on an already suspected person?
Tue 13:23

The weakness we all share is that we tend to believe the first people who claim a role.
Twistedfate Tue 13:24

I'm here, and I hate you people this early
Ahri Tue 13:24

Jhon you had been saying a bit more about the than you should have
Tue 13:24

Let's stop here and wait for the other gd
Tue 13:24

Ok 3 gds here
Sona Tue 13:24

Let's wait for Veigar
Veigar Tue 13:25

I am here
Twistedfate Tue 13:25

I'm typing it in now, so I'm just waiting for the count
Veigar Tue 13:25

can we do it quick?
Tue 13:25

i need to go
Twistedfate Tue 13:25

after that, I'm goin back to bed
Sona Tue 13:25

ok
Tue 13:25

are you ready Jhin?
Veigar Tue 13:25

Count to 3 pls
Ahri Tue 13:26

Ok i will lead
Sona Tue 13:26

Jhin needs to confirm
Ahri Tue 13:26

Lsten to me first
Veigar Tue 13:26

quick pls
Jhin Tue 13:26

here
Sona Tue 13:26

ok
Ahri Tue 13:26

Dont type the results directly
Veigar Tue 13:27

I'm in a hurry, pls make it quick
Ahri Tue 13:27

For example with the word "sona"
Twistedfate Tue 13:27

can we put * in between each letter?
Ahri Tue 13:27

Jhin you type alll in caps, and each letter has 2 spaces, like S O N A
Sona Tue 13:28

Ahri, that's too muc
Tue 13:28

h
Twistedfate Tue 13:28

it's fine
Ahri Tue 13:28

Twisted you the same but all lowercase like s o n a
Sona Tue 13:28

Everyone puts a star between the letters
Veigar Tue 13:28

it's ok, we just typed it already, and just enter when it gets 1
Ahri Tue 13:28

Veigar you starr with cap then lower, mixing, like S o N a
Kassadin Tue 13:28

*grabs popcorn*
Veigar Tue 13:29

3 different codes, sona, that make sure nobody copies
Tue 13:29

ready
Ahri Tue 13:29

No, just 2 spaces
Kassadin Tue 13:29

wtf
Tue 13:29

are you German or what?
Sona Tue 13:29

No, they are not
Ahri Tue 13:29

I will give you guys 30 secs to type it down
Veigar Tue 13:29

20 is enough
Sona Tue 13:29

Complete overkill
Kassadin Tue 13:29

I give you 10
Tue 13:30

but do itin 5 ok?
Jhin Tue 13:30

Seer! And fuck your typography
Ahri Tue 13:30

Then i count from 3, when you guys see 0, all enter
Tue 13:30

Ok ready?
Twistedfate Tue 13:30

s e e r
Veigar Tue 13:30

ok
Tue 13:30

ready
Twistedfate Tue 13:30

jhin, you fucking moron
Kassadin Tue 13:30

lol
Tue 13:30

I'm dead
Tue 13:30

I can't
Veigar Tue 13:30

count pls
Sona Tue 13:30

lmao
Twistedfate Tue 13:30

I woke the fuck up at 6am for this, you asshole
Kassadin Tue 13:30

rofl
Twistedfate Tue 13:31

I'm so fucking mad
Ahri Tue 13:31

30 secs start
Veigar Tue 13:31

20 are enough
Twistedfate Tue 13:31

Ahri, it's over
Veigar Tue 13:31

I'm in a big hurry
Twistedfate Tue 13:31

Jhin is a fucking asshole
Sona Tue 13:31

Veigar, just tyoe what you saw
Tue 13:31

now
Veigar Tue 13:31

already done
Tue 13:31

waiting for an enter
Sona Tue 13:31

post it
Twistedfate Tue 13:31

Too late
Veigar Tue 13:31

now?
Sona Tue 13:31

yes
Veigar Tue 13:31

no count yet?
Twistedfate Tue 13:31

Doesn't fucking matter
Veigar Tue 13:31

A c H e M i S t
Sona Tue 13:31

3
Tue 13:31

2
Tue 13:31

1
Ahri Tue 13:31

Fuck it jhin
Veigar Tue 13:32

A c H e M i S t
Twistedfate Tue 13:32

because jhin is a piece of shit who can't follow directions
Sona Tue 13:32

okidoki
Twistedfate Tue 13:32

But. . .okay
Jhin Tue 13:32

Veigar is lying
Veigar Tue 13:32

what's the point ?????? why nobody's following???
Twistedfate Tue 13:32

Why the fuck am I awake?
Sona Tue 13:32

Veigar Tue 09:47 Have some feeling that I'm the only lit Gd, Sona
Ahri Tue 13:32

Twisted whats your result?
Twistedfate Tue 13:32

I already typed it
Ahri Tue 13:32

Fucking jhin
Twistedfate Tue 13:32

It's up there
Sona Tue 13:32

Twisted saw seer
Tue 13:32

Jhin saw seer
Tue 13:33

Veigar saw Alchemist
Veigar Tue 13:33

they are both evils
Moderator Tue 13:33

Twistedfate votes to lynch Veigar
Twistedfate Tue 13:33

Haha, right
Veigar Tue 13:33

guys, i'm up to the check from the morning
Sona Tue 13:33

please explain this: Veigar Tue 09:47 Have some feeling that I'm the only lit Gd, Sona
Veigar Tue 13:33

why should I lie
Tue 13:33

yes
Kassadin Tue 13:33

https://www.ambassadorsolutions.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/IT-trainwreck.jpg
Tue 13:33

This is a trainwreck :D
Sona Tue 13:34

xD
Veigar Tue 13:34

because I think maokai is a GD
Sona Tue 13:34

COven has an incentive to make us revive graves
Veigar Tue 13:34

both stalkers claimed he didn't visit anyone in D1
Twistedfate Tue 13:34

I'd be happy to lynch Jhin for ruining the entire fucking plan like an impatient 2 year old
Veigar Tue 13:34

and he was super active
Sona Tue 13:34

@Veigar why?
Ahri Tue 13:34

I dont care who's the lit gd, but first fuck you jhin
Veigar Tue 13:34

which role didnt visit in N1?
Sona Tue 13:34

oh
Kassadin Tue 13:34

Corki isn't seer
Tue 13:34

eh stalker
Tue 13:34

I don't trust him
Tue 13:35

he just repeated my shit
Veigar Tue 13:35

that's why I guess Maokai is a GD
Tue 13:35

I really need to go
Tue 13:35

pls think
Kassadin Tue 13:35

I'm still rolling on the floor
Sona Tue 13:35

I somehow believe Veigar over Twisted and Jhin
Kassadin Tue 13:35

this is some next lvl
Twistedfate Tue 13:35

Okay, so sona is evil then?
Tue 13:36

Are you fucking kidding me?
Veigar Tue 13:36

I will be back before midnight
Sona Tue 13:36

NO, I am a mason
Tue 13:36

Being a mason is fun xD
Moderator Tue 13:36

Jhin votes to lynch Sona
Kassadin Tue 13:36

is this just trolling?
Moderator Tue 13:36

Kassadin votes to lynch Jhin
Kassadin Tue 13:36

jhin wtf?
Twistedfate Tue 13:37

What the fuck is happening?
Kassadin Tue 13:37

I rly rly wanna lynch one of you clowns today
Tue 13:37

how can u mess this up?`??
Sona Tue 13:38

I kinda pity Ahri
Lucian Tue 13:38

Lol
Twistedfate Tue 13:38

Fucking Jhin
Lucian Tue 13:38

next to evil comfirmed xD
Twistedfate Tue 13:38

I am so pissed, you have no idea
Lucian Tue 13:39

I guess these Coven outta ability
Twistedfate Tue 13:39

Fuck meta, I have a fucking baby, and I woke up before him to be here and fucking do this the right way
Tue 13:39

FUCK YOU JHIN
Lucian Tue 13:39

either Vaigar or Twisted and JHIN
Sona Tue 13:39

Go back to bed
Lucian Tue 13:39

Twisted is triggered need help
Twistedfate Tue 13:40

I can fucking PROMISE you that I would not be awake if I was evil
Sona Tue 13:40

Before the baby wakes up from your furious typing
Twistedfate Tue 13:40

I want to punck the fucking screen
Tue 13:40

Fuck this game
Lucian Tue 13:40

DO IT!
Twistedfate Tue 13:40

I'm done
Lucian Tue 13:40

JUST DO IT!
Twistedfate Tue 13:40

This isn't funny
Lucian Tue 13:40

PUNCH YOUR SCREEN
Sona Tue 13:40

Did the baby wake up?
Twistedfate Tue 13:40

No
Lucian Tue 13:40

NOW relive your ANGER
Twistedfate Tue 13:40

I should be asleep
Lucian Tue 13:40

Bye
Twistedfate Tue 13:40

I'm on the verge of pissed of tears
Tue 13:41

Shut up, Lucian
Lucian Tue 13:41

c ya l8r when you have breakfast ;)
Twistedfate Tue 13:41

I'm out. Have fun.
Tue 13:41

This kind of shit is the fucking worst
Lucian Tue 13:41

ok bye
Twistedfate Tue 13:41

No, I'm done
Lucian Tue 13:41

i belive i said byw
Tue 13:41

bye*
Orianna Tue 13:42

I am just creeply watching Twisted get triggered xD
Sona Tue 13:42

My stomach's hurting
Tue 13:43

or whatever it is in english
Tue 13:43

I'd rate it a 10/10 in funniness
Tue 13:44

It might have killed Kassadin
Lucian Tue 13:44

you have stomchache my lady ;D
Kassadin Tue 13:44

So what we make out of this?
Sona Tue 13:45

Screenshot it
Kassadin Tue 13:45

....
Tue 13:45

I don't find it that funny tbqh, if woke up at 6 pm for ww.es I'd be pissed as well.
Tue 13:46

So veigar or Jhin/Twisted?
Sona Tue 13:46

Veigar came up with a different result despite saying it later
Tue 13:48

What would make you more furious?
Vi Tue 13:48

Hmmm
Sona Tue 13:48

a - wake up to give a coordinated GD result
Vi Tue 13:49

Who told the reviver to revive Graves last night
Sona Tue 13:49

b - wake up to fake a result with your buddy and have them fuck up
Tue 13:49

Idk
Tue 13:49

Might have been me
Tue 13:50

Kassadin had a pretty convincing argument against Maokai
Tue 13:50

I still find it weird that Veigar had this precognition
Tue 13:51

Other roles that don't move n1: GR, Reviver, Militia,
Tue 13:52

that's 6 other ppl
Vi Tue 13:52

2 militias are alive
Sona Tue 13:52

thoughts?
Vi Tue 13:52

gr is alive
Tue 13:52

Pretty much all the evil spirit down there
Moderator Tue 13:53

Lucian - your trolling was out of line there. Official warning, keep it civil.
Vi Tue 13:54

May need all the stalker to do the stalking
Tue 13:54

the GD of course
Sona Tue 13:54

ok, GR and Militia were not an option
Kassadin Tue 13:54

why does everyone fking believe corki's copy pasta?
Sona Tue 13:55

I don't
Kassadin Tue 13:55

but nobody fking votes him
Vi Tue 13:55

evil for sure: Lissandra, Karthus, Ezreal
Kassadin Tue 13:55

why?
Sona Tue 13:56

We want Vampires, not Coven
Kassadin Tue 13:56

so you think fake gd and fake stalker all coven?
Vi Tue 13:56

So Maokai is Reviver, or evil
Sona Tue 13:57

You accused Corki of being Alchemist .....
Kassadin Tue 13:57

yeah, and the GD's?
Sona Tue 13:57

Unless you claim to be recruited?
Kassadin Tue 13:57

what we do with them?
Tue 13:57

maybe I was protected. I don't know
Sona Tue 13:57

you tell me
Kassadin Tue 13:57

Alch goes through everything
Sona Tue 13:58

What do you think about the Gravediggers?
Kassadin Tue 13:58

Honestly I trust Twisted's emotions
Vi Tue 13:59

2 deaths night 1, so that means vampires are active
Tue 13:59

Can't be viktor
Kassadin Tue 13:59

why vik?
Vi Tue 13:59

Because he's going to be smited
Kassadin Tue 14:00

Honestly I'm the only fking confirmed Stalker, and I'm out of a role ...
Tue 14:00

you don't have to vote to kill
Sona Tue 14:00

Lurking evil is possible
Vi Tue 14:00

Stay calm, you're still way behind that lynch list, plenty of peeps before you
Kassadin Tue 14:00

I'm on your fucking list?
Tue 14:01

wow
Sona Tue 14:01

You'd be on my list for Fam
Kassadin Tue 14:01

I'm out. fking idiots. Win this shit without me.
Vi Tue 14:01

</3
Tue 14:01

Anyway
Tue 14:01

we have yet to hear from Lux
Sona Tue 14:01

Everyone who claims purged is on my Fam list xD
Kassadin Tue 14:02

This is like the rudest most fking dumb mason team ever. One already got an official warning.
Tue 14:02

Think about it.
Vi Tue 14:02

It will be corki's turn, stay calm
Sona Tue 14:02

I didn't intend to be rude ... was I?
Vi Tue 14:02

I never said he's the good guy?
Kassadin Tue 14:02

No, you called my plan shit yesterday, and now you're profiting from it.
Sona Tue 14:03

Your plan's awesome
Kassadin Tue 14:03

"You're way down my list" yo thx!
Tue 14:03

I should be greatful right?
Tue 14:03

that I'm so low on your list mighty VI
Tue 14:04

So first you troll someone who woke up at 6 am
Tue 14:04

I'd be fucking pissed too
Vi Tue 14:04

You're treating everyone the same
Tue 14:04

I wasn't here when the GD stated their checks
Tue 14:05

And you stated my opinion in a wrong direction
Tue 14:05

Everyone who's not in mason is on my list, no one is confirmed at all
Kassadin Tue 14:06

I fucking am, and I'm pissed for not getting an invite
Tue 14:06

now I'm useless anyway.
Tue 14:06

fml
Tue 14:06

fucking prot messed up too
Vi Tue 14:06

Your vote matters
Moderator Tue 14:06

Kassadin votes to lynch Vi
Kassadin Tue 14:06

here have it.
Vi Tue 14:06

How can you be useless when you can lynch someone in the day?
Tue 14:06

That's the worst excuse
Tue 14:07

Unless you're the bad guy who is pissed because of losing, or you're making no sense at all
Sona Tue 14:07

ok, guys, I'll be off for 20 Minutes, get some fresh air, I suggest you do the same
Vi Tue 14:08

I don't want to touch the GD subject because it's heated atm
Tue 14:09

So I might wanna discuss more about Stalkers and Revivers
Kassadin Tue 14:09

I'll talk about Demonlords now
Vi Tue 14:09

Cool
Kassadin Tue 14:09

because I feel like it.
Vi Tue 14:09

I wonder what did he read
Tue 14:09

How's the wolf doing
Kassadin Tue 14:09

I'll tell you a secret
Vi Tue 14:09

I might wanna cooperate
Kassadin Tue 14:09

they don't exist
Vi Tue 14:10

But I how can they not exist when I see them on google
Kassadin Tue 14:10

So what you wanna talk about stalkers?
Vi Tue 14:10

How many stalker claims are there
Tue 14:11

Kass, Corki, Lux and Poppy isn't it
Tue 14:12

We see no Djinn play, so Djinn might have been dead or inactive (Viktor) or he messes up the GY
Tue 14:13

We also have 3 Revivers: Zilean, Brand and Teemo
Kassadin Tue 14:13

why the f did you recruit 2 militias?
Vi Tue 14:13

Why not
Kassadin Tue 14:14

*facepalm*
Lucian Tue 14:14

Because
Kassadin Tue 14:14

It's no use talking to you. But you'll win this anyway.
Lucian Tue 14:14

there are 4 mili claim
Kassadin Tue 14:14

Shut up lucian. I don't talk to trolls.
Lucian Tue 14:15

and only 2 in this game
Tue 14:15

1 was a random recuit
Tue 14:15

and 1 more was recuit by mean
Tue 14:16

because we need to comfirme them
Tue 14:16

and 2 mili is lit checked
Tue 14:16

the orther 2 are 100% evi;
Tue 14:16

because can only 2 is lit and we found them
Tue 14:17

I'm i right Vi? :3
Kassadin Tue 14:18

you're the two worst ml's in the history of this game. Cya in 176.
Lucian Tue 14:19

cya :D
Kassadin Tue 14:21

Someone recruit the troll plz. I can't stand if he wins this game because of me. Thx
Lucian Tue 14:24

i thought you go?
Tue 14:24

you said cya :/
Tue 14:24

...
Tue 14:24

Some time i cant understand you people
Teemo Tue 14:41

Hey guys. Just wanted to pop up and say Hi today. Im gonna try to catch up reading. But i can't be back until about 3hrs before nightfall
Tue 14:41

Asv btw
Moderator Tue 14:41

Teemo votes to lynch Ahri
Veigar Tue 14:42

I'm here
Tue 14:42

I can not explain why Kassadin, twist and Jihn all pissed off
Sona Tue 14:42

Because Jhin messed up by typing his result early
Veigar Tue 14:43

I am the only gd who had a different result, but I'm still here and didn't get crazy
Lucian Tue 14:43

true
Veigar Tue 14:43

why Jhin and Twist didnt follow the plan?
Sona Tue 14:43

Doesn't matter?
Veigar Tue 14:43

wait until 0 and enter the results
Lucian Tue 14:43

If Veigar was evil so he must have copy paste as well
Tue 14:43

He saw the result
Veigar Tue 14:43

yes
Lucian Tue 14:44

but he got the different out come
Veigar Tue 14:44

But I digged Gravs as an Alchemist
Tue 14:44

that's what i was hinting for the whole day
Sona Tue 14:44

quotes
Lucian Tue 14:44

If this is some reverse psychology then.... *hand in the air*
Veigar Tue 14:47

So now I caught 2 evils for the village: Jihn and Twist.
Tue 14:47

Same team or not, they are not telling the truth
Sona Tue 14:48

please quote your hints
Veigar Tue 14:48

I said I think I can give revivers their target
Ahri Tue 14:48

Everyone pls calm down and put the ego aside a bit
Tue 14:48

Relax
Veigar Tue 14:48

and I said I have a feeling that I'm the only true Gd alive
Tue 14:49

Because I found Graves as an alchemist -> Maokai possbily a reviver/ Gd since he didnt visit anyone in N1 ( according to Maokai )
Tue 14:50

Sona is a lit robber
Sona Tue 14:50

I don't exactly get how your result on graves is linked with Maokai
Veigar Tue 14:51

I wasnt really active yesterday, but I remember the village said there's a coven + a villager among Maokai and Graves
Ahri Tue 14:51

If youre honest then maokai can still be djinn who didnt want to use his ability n1
Veigar Tue 14:51

I can check Maokai tonight if you want
Sona Tue 14:51

Where's the Djinn anyway?
Veigar Tue 14:52

why ask me?
Ahri Tue 14:52

I think we should let some stalkers stalk one of the gds
Tue 14:52

Gds are easy for stalkers to confirm
Veigar Tue 14:52

anw, both twisted and Jihn didn't want to be visited by stalkers last night as I remember
Tue 14:52

Yes stalker can be on me
Ahri Tue 14:53

And if we can confirm just 1 of the 3,the other 2 can also be cleared
Veigar Tue 14:54

If I am lit -> both jihn and twist are evils. But I'm evil -> they both can be evils or one of them is
Tue 14:54

anw I think seer was recruited by VM
Sona Tue 14:55

there's vamp-gd, right?
Tue 14:55

fam-gd
Veigar Tue 14:55

yes
Poppy Tue 14:55

@Veigar: how is Sona legitimized based on these things?
Ahri Tue 14:55

But fam only be recruited n2
Poppy Tue 14:55

I remember you said something about it, didn't see the relevance
Sona Tue 14:56

@Poppy, because a GD was dead, if he is lit
Ahri Tue 14:56

So last night everyone was in their original role
Veigar Tue 14:56

Sona was recruited by Mason, Poppy
Poppy Tue 14:56

Ah, like that
Veigar Tue 14:57

So, you guys all got my point, right?
Tue 14:57

I will need to go
Poppy Tue 14:58

Yes, I think we do
Veigar Tue 14:58

How many stalkers do we have?
Poppy Tue 14:58

option: we check one of the GDs and can cascade a few result from this
Veigar Tue 14:58

until now?
Poppy Tue 14:58

2, at the moment
Veigar Tue 14:58

stalkers claim
Ahri Tue 14:58

Umm whats sona's role? I dont remember
Poppy Tue 14:58

GR
Veigar Tue 14:58

GR
Ahri Tue 14:59

Ok
Veigar Tue 14:59

Another the GR claimed was Liss, lynched yesterday
Poppy Tue 14:59

Ah wait, Corki is supposedly also a Stalker, but that's a weak claim
Tue 14:59

Which of the smite parole people haven't talked/voted yet?
Veigar Tue 14:59

Corki, Poppy, Lux and Kass all claimed stalkers. Kass said he was purged
Ahri Tue 14:59

We really have 3 stalkers and 4 claimed isnt it?
Veigar Tue 14:59

Now Corki, poppy and lux left
Ahri Tue 14:59

Yes
Tue 15:00

Lux hasnt shown up today
Veigar Tue 15:00

what's your check, poppy?
Lucian Tue 15:00

I have a good theory
Tue 15:01

The both orther GD said they saw a seer because they want Sona to robe it
Tue 15:01

then they will have a new player join their faction to fill in the hole
Tue 15:01

sound good?
Poppy Tue 15:01

could be
Ahri Tue 15:01

One possibility
Poppy Tue 15:02

but if they're the same faction, they could've easily orchestrated the simultaneous check
Tue 15:02

so no need for one to speak before their turn
Ahri Tue 15:03

However I'm just 40% believe in veigar
Veigar Tue 15:03

why Ahri?
Ahri Tue 15:03

Hard to explain, but kinda a bit less than 50%
Veigar Tue 15:04

I can't believe it Ahri, I was the only one who follow your plan.
Tue 15:04

and look at their attitude, got anger by nothing
Tue 15:04

I dunno what I can do more
Ahri Tue 15:05

Not about the plan, it was good you followed the plan
Veigar Tue 15:05

So pls have a stalker on me, and protector on this stalker
Tue 15:05

we can make it clear tonight
Tue 15:05

I thought the plan is about to clear the mess of 3 gds
Poppy Tue 15:05

that's a lot of resources and it's not waterproof
Veigar Tue 15:05

now it turns into... that
Poppy Tue 15:05

you can't protect from purge/recruit
Tue 15:05

it's at least become clearer, Veigar
Sona Tue 15:06

You can protect from recruit?!
Poppy Tue 15:06

read my sentence
Ahri Tue 15:06

I guess not
Poppy Tue 15:06

it literally says you can't
Tue 15:06

and you infer that you can?
Tue 15:06

seriously? :P
Sona Tue 15:06

My memory says so
Veigar Tue 15:06

If I'm an evil, I will just follow them, especially when 2 of them already spoke before me
Poppy Tue 15:06

I don't think so, since it's not a killing ability, right
Veigar Tue 15:07

Vamp's recruitment wont take affect if the target was protected by protector
Tue 15:07

same thing happened in 170
Sona Tue 15:07

the vampire has to kill to recruit
Tue 15:07

ok
Veigar Tue 15:07

dunno about alchemist
Sona Tue 15:08

Alchemist wont stop you from getting your result
Tue 15:08

laim@Ahri another thing to consider is Jhin's purge c
Tue 15:08

@Ahri another thing to consider is Jhin's purge claim
Veigar Tue 15:08

Ok, so I'm calling for all checks
Sona Tue 15:09

Just to be certain .. this is no Djinn-fuckery?
Ahri Tue 15:09

If someone is swapped they should have announced
Sona Tue 15:10

I mean a swap in the Graveyard
Ahri Tue 15:11

How it would affect the gd results at the same night?
Sona Tue 15:11

*shrugs*
Veigar Tue 15:12

I have t g
Tue 15:12

go
Tue 15:13

see you tmr, if I'm alive
Tue 15:13

Pls have your plans on checking
Poppy Tue 15:13

I do remember that the order of actions (GD activating ability before/after Djinn) had an effect on whether the name was already swapped, meaning that if X and Y were swapped and a GD checked X, they would see "Y (X's new identity) is role <role of X>"
Veigar Tue 15:13

And my sus list has: Jihn, Twist (obv), Corki and Kass
Lucian Tue 15:24

Ok then good list
Tue 15:25

Bye i gtr
Moderator Tue 15:25

Lucian votes to lynch Brand
Moderator Tue 15:25

Lucian votes to lynch Ezreal
Lucian Tue 15:25

miss click
Brand Tue 15:27

Lucian, I hope you're evil or get recruited by a vampire so that the village has a legitimate reason for tying you to a pyre and burning you alive
Tue 15:27

*Hello
Tue 15:28

Sorry, type
Tue 15:28

Typo! *
Sona Tue 15:33

Does everyone have to nag at Lucian?
Brand Tue 15:34

Well if he wasn't such an arse...
Sona Tue 15:35

So it's ok to be an arse to an arse?
Brand Tue 15:35

Yes
Tue 15:35

An eye for an eye, isn't that what the Bible says?
Sona Tue 15:37

1. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind
Tue 15:37

and Ghandi > Bible
Tue 15:37

*Gandhi
Brand Tue 15:37

Hmm
Sona Tue 15:37

2. Do you feel a need to punish Lucian?
Brand Tue 15:38

Well anyway, I just object to his "miss click"
Sona Tue 15:40

Brand, what GD is lit in your opinion?
Brand Tue 15:41

Good question, two vs one has more weight behind it but I also am struggling to work out why, if Varus is evil, he didn't just copy the other claims
Tue 15:41

Wait, not Varus
Tue 15:41

T'other one
Tue 15:41

Veigar
Tue 15:42

Losing seer on the first day is massively unlucky, but of course it's possible
Sona Tue 15:42

My gut feeling says that Veigar is lit
Brand Tue 15:42

And with no other claims, it's kinda believable
Sona Tue 15:43

The way he asks for Stalking .... Lit or coven who swaps out?
Brand Tue 15:43

Anything more tangible than your gut?
Tue 15:43

Hmm, could be a puppet sacrifice, but to what gain?
Tue 15:43

Why claim GD?
Sona Tue 15:44

What else ?
Brand Tue 15:44

Why not go big, claim seer?
Sona Tue 15:44

Because Seer
Tue 15:44

is dead
Brand Tue 15:44

Or militia or reviver or stalker
Sona Tue 15:44

And GD fs you over
Brand Tue 15:44

We didn't know that yesterday though
Sona Tue 15:44

Equally good as GD?
Tue 15:45

Twisted and Jhin claimed after Veigar did iirc
Brand Tue 15:45

Puppet could have tried to bait out the real seer?
Tue 15:45

Idk
Tue 15:45

Anyway, that's my thoughts on Veigar being a puppet yesterday
Tue 15:46

But I think you were actually suggesting Djinn swap with a puppet last night?
Tue 15:46

Implying he was previously a non-puppet coven, which would change things
Tue 15:48

So, if a coven were to fake claim in this set up, they'd need to be careful... If they were to claim seer then they make themselves a big target for the vampires.. Either to kill or recruit, which is ultimately the same for the lucky coven
Tue 15:48

So maybe GD is a good, safe claim
Tue 15:49

Idk really, I need more time to digest the possibilities
Tue 15:50

Two vs One though, that'd mean the other GD is dead or turned which again is kinda lucky for the two fakers :/
Kassadin Tue 15:59

Popping in to give some h2p, because reading this stuff just hurts
Tue 15:59

You can't see Djinn no matter if he uses his ability or not as stalker.
Tue 16:00

Since Djinn is not a visit
Tue 16:00

I'll be a h2p bot from now on. because it seems nobody can be bothered to actually understand mechanics in this game.
Poppy Tue 16:00

oh you drama queen
Tue 16:01

can you refrain from all the hyperbolic speech?
Kassadin Tue 16:01

If you find this input about Djinn not useful use "!stop h2p"
Brand Tue 16:01

Kassadin, if we lynch wrongly can we undo the lynch the next day???
Kassadin Tue 16:01

yes, it's called a reive
Tue 16:01

*revive
Brand Tue 16:07

\o/
Kassadin Tue 16:09

After what lucius did to twisted I dont want to be part or contributing in a victory win this game.
Tue 16:09

*village
Poppy Tue 16:09

Alright
Tue 16:09

Well, if you're serious about it, you should just quit this game, get smited.
Tue 16:10

But I don't think you're able to?
Kassadin Tue 16:10

I never get smited
Poppy Tue 16:10

I also don't really understand how you not helping us does any good to that situation
Kassadin Tue 16:11

It doesnt. It's pure spite
Poppy Tue 16:12

I feel these kinds of issues can best be resolved in post-game or on Discord.
Tue 16:12

Alright
Tue 16:12

You are one emotional creature, Kassadin
Tue 16:12

brb
Kassadin Tue 16:14

I'm basically confirmed. Makes it more fun.
Ahri Tue 16:20

I wish some people here could be a bit less salty and put aside the hate against others
Sona Tue 16:20

^^^^
Ahri Tue 16:21

I think a good way is Lucian should give an official appology to twisted
Sona Tue 16:21

Can't we just moe on_
Tue 16:21

?
Brand Tue 16:22

We should start a prtition
Tue 16:22

Everyone in favour can vote by putting a vote on Lucian!
Tue 16:22

Petition *
Sona Tue 16:22

stop bullying him ffs
Ahri Tue 16:22

btw about the Djinn, Kass, I think the point here is not about stalking who Djinn visits (yes he won't be seen visiting) but that stalking a swapped target still give the right result, and we also know who's swapped (is it correct Kass?)
Tue 16:23

I think we can stop escalating on Lucian's problem here and let him apologize himself if he feel comfortable, else we move on
Corki Tue 16:24

COrki back
Brand Tue 16:26

Great
Tue 16:27

Words can't express how happy I am about that
Twistedfate Tue 16:29

Couple of points for the logically challenge (there seem to be many in this game)
Ahri Tue 16:30

Corki you're back, and...?
Twistedfate Tue 16:30

1. I am still furious, and i hope that whoever Jhin is in real life breaks a pinky toe
Brand Tue 16:30

Hi Twisted, I hope you're feeling better
Tue 16:30

Oh :(
Twistedfate Tue 16:30

Not really, but I've decided to not let trolls ruin my game
Brand Tue 16:30

Good decision
Ahri Tue 16:31

yea it's the way to go
Brand Tue 16:31

The only good troll is a lynched troll
Twistedfate Tue 16:31

1. Veig was obviously not paying attention to anything but himself during the fucked up reveal, read back and it's clear he didn't see our claims until after
Brand Tue 16:31

Actually those ones with colourful hair are good too
Twistedfate Tue 16:31

2. I WANTED stalker intervention if stalkers wanted it, read yesterday end of day
Tue 16:32

3. It was MY plan, why would i want that much attention if I was lying?
Sona Tue 16:32

to (1) I wondered about that too
Tue 16:33

Didn't know whether he acted ignorant or really was
Twistedfate Tue 16:33

4. If Jhin was my evil teammate and did that to me, purposely as it was, knowing I got up that much earlier, I'd literally throw the game and out us because I'd be that pissed
Vi Tue 16:33

I may have a possible explanation for GD conflict
Tue 16:33

Djinn
Brand Tue 16:33

*drum roll*
Tue 16:34

Damn, too slow
Ezreal Tue 16:34

Long day
Twistedfate Tue 16:34

What about Djinn?
Sona Tue 16:34

Sona Tue 15:09 Just to be certain .. this is no Djinn-fuckery?
Ezreal Tue 16:34

you all that voted me are making mistake
Twistedfate Tue 16:34

The fact that nobody is voting Veig is fucking insane
Ezreal Tue 16:34

I'm militia. I know it's not a strong claim, but that's who I am
Brand Tue 16:34

Ez, what was your role again?
Sona Tue 16:34

Ezreal --- the other MIlitia claims are in the mason
Brand Tue 16:34

Oh ta
Twistedfate Tue 16:34

we confirmed an evil
Ezreal Tue 16:35

I can shoot anyone we deem evil tonight
Tue 16:35

lynching me won't solve anything
Sona Tue 16:35

Sona Tue 16:34 Ezreal --- the other MIlitia claims are in the mason
Twistedfate Tue 16:35

We know our seer is dead
Tue 16:35

This is just dumb play
Ezreal Tue 16:35

I don't have time to read, are we sure the mason is lit??
Sona Tue 16:36

Yes
Tue 16:36

100%
Ezreal Tue 16:36

ok then I'm the other militia
Sona Tue 16:36

THere's 0 doubt
Brand Tue 16:36

Who are the masons again?
Sona Tue 16:36

Both other militia claims are in the mason
Tue 16:36

VI and Lucian
Vi Tue 16:37

Checks are mixed after swapped and before swapped
Twistedfate Tue 16:37

So everyone talked in mason chat last night?
Brand Tue 16:37

Sona, and recruits?
Ezreal Tue 16:37

and we are sure that both mason are lit?? wtf
Tue 16:37

something must be wrong here
Vi Tue 16:38

Damn phone
Twistedfate Tue 16:38

Sona, who recruited you?
Tue 16:38

I forgot
Vi Tue 16:38

Geegee
Brand Tue 16:38

There are only two GDs, Vi
Poppy Tue 16:38

The chance that all MLs are completely overtaken by - coven, I guess - is very small, especially if the first deaths didn't come up as ML in GD rerport
Ahri Tue 16:38

nothing's wrong Ezreal, both miltias are confirmed, you can officially turn off your computer now
Brand Tue 16:38

So all three can't be real?
Twistedfate Tue 16:38

ANYONE?
Tue 16:38

Am I fucking invisible now?
Ahri Tue 16:39

too many conversations at the same time
Tue 16:39

Vi recruited Sona
Tue 16:39

Lucian recruited me
Twistedfate Tue 16:39

Hmm
Brand Tue 16:39

Twisted, that's what I'm trying to ask too
Vi Tue 16:39

Me
Twistedfate Tue 16:40

And everyone talked in chat last night?
Tue 16:40

Oh, but vamp recruits were last night, so it wouldn't matter
Tue 16:40

Right?
Ahri Tue 16:40

I and Sona were just recruited last night so tonight will be the first night we talk
Vi Tue 16:40

Yes
Brand Tue 16:41

Wasn't one of the dead people also militia?
Twistedfate Tue 16:41

So if anyone is absent, we might have a way to confirm vamp recruits in masons
Brand Tue 16:41

Isn't that why we went to lynch Ez in the first place?
Twistedfate Tue 16:41

Because that's exactly who vm would target
Ezreal Tue 16:41

@Ahri you claimed militia? who's the other one?
Ahri Tue 16:41

about the GD stuffs, Sona has already give a hypothesis against twisted and jhin, so I would like to give a hypothesis against Veig
Twistedfate Tue 16:41

Ori
Tue 16:42

According to Sona, I think
Ezreal Tue 16:42

btw mason member can be recruited as fam
Tue 16:42

Ori is confirmed lit how?
Twistedfate Tue 16:42

That she is mason and mili
Sona Tue 16:42

Brand, that was before we knew that Orianna was a MIlitia
Ahri Tue 16:42

I think Veig might know in advance that the 2 other GDs are real, so she hinted about feeling both other GDs were fake earlier
Brand Tue 16:42

Yeah but uh
Sona Tue 16:42

Karthus was claiming Militia
Brand Tue 16:43

Kinda weird right?
Sona Tue 16:43

Orianna shot him and recruited Ahri
Tue 16:43

and Lucian recruited Ahri
Ahri Tue 16:43

Ezreal, even if someone is recruited as fam, it's only N2, and the fact is still that 2 mliitias is real originally
Tue 16:44

Ezreal I think you can stop trying already
Ezreal Tue 16:44

lol I never stop trying anything, you just lynch the wrong person
Tue 16:44

like I said, lynch me won't solve anything
Tue 16:44

let me prove myself by shoot someone we deem evil at night
Tue 16:45

you tell, I shoot
Sona Tue 16:45

Even if you shoot someone, we wont believe you
Ahri Tue 16:45

I'm ignoring you from now, wasting our conversation
Ezreal Tue 16:45

that's as much as I can offer
Kassadin Tue 16:46

Jason are masterminds. You have no chance vs lucius
Sona Tue 16:46

ok, then could you please stop derailing the conversation until you have a plausible scenario how one of Ahri and Orianna are fake?
Tue 16:46

His name is Lucian
Brand Tue 16:46

So, let me get this straight (sorry for being slow...) Kar fake claimed Militia and said he'd shoot (an assumed) VM, so in the morning when he is dead and the target (Ez) isn't we assume the target is VM and push for a lynch — it then transpires that Kar was lying but we still outed an evil because we can disprove Ez's claim?
Sona Tue 16:47

Yes, we know that there are 2 Militia, we know that these 2 Militias are in the Mason. Ezreal claims MIlitia too, Ez is fake
Ahri Tue 16:48

again, about the GDs, I have the feeling that Veig faked her result and was just consistent about keeping it to persuade others, and therefore she hinted about both twisted and jhin were fake earlier to make people start to think so
Sona Tue 16:48

Orianna, a militia in the mason shot Karthus because she thought that Ahri. the other militia was more likely to be lit that Karthus
Tue 16:48

*than
Ahri Tue 16:49

of course we still have another night to get more info to verify
Sona Tue 16:50

We didn't know at daystart that Orianna was a militia, and assumed therefore, that our both Militia claims at that point, Ahri ad Karthus, were both lit. Karthus was supposed to shoot Ezreal, so we thought that Ezreal was a Vampire because he didn't die
Ahri Tue 16:50

we have some suspects for lynch now but have a surely good lynch already, so leave others until tmr
Sona Tue 16:51

Everything clear, Brand?
Ahri Tue 16:51

but we know that karthus is fake, so ezreal is vampire or coven is still not clear
Twistedfate Tue 16:51

we have a publicly verified evil, and everyone bis ignoring it over far-fetched conspiracy theories
Ahri Tue 16:52

but i agree that ez is likely to be vampire
Sona Tue 16:52

So the question is whether Ezreal is Vamp or Coven?
Tue 16:52

Vamp fits the claim
Vi Tue 16:52

Luv u girz
Ahri Tue 16:52

prob he thought karthus was real so he was afraid it and killed karthus, and claimed militia without knowing Ori is the other militia
Twistedfate Tue 16:53

village deserves a loss already
Ahri Tue 16:54

twisted, we're sure about ez evil more, and might be a vamp without fam, so let's go for him first
Tue 16:54

the GDs can be resolved later
Twistedfate Tue 16:54

no, "we" are not
Tue 16:54

Masons are playing the shadiest game I've ever seen
Ahri Tue 16:54

you need to look from others' stand point, the GD stuff is not yet that clear
Twistedfate Tue 16:55

Veig was publicly, verifyably proven
Tue 16:55

HOW?
Tue 16:55

Oh my God, am I in bizarro logic land?
Ahri Tue 16:55

zz
Sona Tue 16:55

The question is: If Veigar is a gravedigger, who is the second one?
Twistedfate Tue 16:55

what the fuck is zz?
Ahri Tue 16:55

then how do you think the mason stuffs is not clear and Ez is not surely evil?
Twistedfate Tue 16:56

you bored?
Brand Tue 16:56

Sona, Alchemist could have rerolled someone to witch
Twistedfate Tue 16:56

Because Mason is #1 target of vm
Sona Tue 16:56

Twistedfate, please explain to me how Veigar is proven
Brand Tue 16:56

Would maybe make a better militia claim
Ahri Tue 16:57

@Sona according to Veig's theory then maokai might be, but she seemed to anticipate it in advance so I doubt that
Sona Tue 16:57

Who was the Seer then?
Twistedfate Tue 16:57

3 GD claims, 2 saw seer, veig was ridiculous all day with "hinting"
Ahri Tue 16:57

@twisted so do you think all 5 ppl in mason now are 5 fams?
Twistedfate Tue 16:57

no seer claims
Tue 16:57

Village has lost its intelligence
Sona Tue 16:58

Ahri, please don't be ridiculous
Tue 16:58

Everyone thinks thez are the most important thing
Tue 16:58

Ahri think that the disproved militia is the most important thing
Twistedfate Tue 16:58

Graves was the seer, verified by 2
Sona Tue 16:58

Twisted thinks that the disproved GD is the most important thing
Ahri Tue 16:59

twisted, I already stated my sus against Veig, but don't push others to make it priority today, Ez needs to be lynched right now
Twistedfate Tue 16:59

Sona is either 99% evil or 100% wrong
Sona Tue 16:59

Why?
Twistedfate Tue 16:59

Has Ori spoken today?
Tue 16:59

I missed morning a lot
Brand Tue 16:59

Yes
Tue 16:59

Pretty sure she has
Tue 17:00

(He? She? It?)
Ahri Tue 17:00

yes ori has spoken today
Twistedfate Tue 17:00

yeah, pronouns are the least of my worry
Sona Tue 17:00

You know who we need to speak up?
Tue 17:00

Varus
Brand Tue 17:00

Oh crap
Ahri Tue 17:00

yes Varus is annoyingly weird
Twistedfate Tue 17:01

why would we lynch someone verified by a few when we can lunch someone verified in front of everyone?
Brand Tue 17:01

I just realised that Twisted has a hat on
Tue 17:01

Not fucking beak
Twistedfate Tue 17:01

okay?
Sona Tue 17:01

Twistedfate
Brand Tue 17:01

Wtf
Twistedfate Tue 17:01

oh, haha
Brand Tue 17:01

I thought you were a bird
Tue 17:01

My whole life is a lie
Twistedfate Tue 17:01

caw
Brand Tue 17:01

:3
Sona Tue 17:01

Ezreal is verified by 5 masons, Veigar is verified by 2 Gravediggers
Ahri Tue 17:02

what do you mean by "the few"? it's 5 proven people,
Sona Tue 17:02

It's possible that Warwick was a gravedigger
Brand Tue 17:02

Verified *evil*
Twistedfate Tue 17:02

Sona, worst village ever
Sona Tue 17:02

The alternative theory is that both you and Jhin are evil, twisted
Twistedfate Tue 17:03

ignore what you see to create conspiracy
Brand Tue 17:03

Tinfoil hats
Twistedfate Tue 17:03

No, the truth is that veig is evil, Sona
Brand Tue 17:03

Get your tinfoil hats here
Twistedfate Tue 17:03

but ignore evidence in favor of ignorance
Sona Tue 17:04

ok, namecalling, cool
Brand Tue 17:04

If you're called Lucian then it's buy one get one free
Twistedfate Tue 17:04

I'm going to call out irrational behavior
Ahri Tue 17:04

Twisted you are ignoring the stronger mason evidence here
Brand Tue 17:04

That's right, BOGOF Lucian
Twistedfate Tue 17:04

who name called?
Sona Tue 17:04

ok, Twisted, I've got your point
Twistedfate Tue 17:05

Mason is not evidence in my opinion
Brand Tue 17:05

Theoretically the entire mason team could be coven
Tue 17:05

Just saying
Twistedfate Tue 17:05

not with this Mason bunch
Ahri Tue 17:05

pls give us a hypothesis where Ez could be not evil before talking further
Twistedfate Tue 17:06

At least 1 ml is lit, so there's some credibility, but they could have been recruited already
Sona Tue 17:06

But both Mason Leaders agreed yesterday
Twistedfate Tue 17:07

There's coven, and plenty of them
Brand Tue 17:07

Crap, if a militia shot last night then we now definitely have at least one familiar, right
Tue 17:07

?
Sona Tue 17:07

so as of yesterday, both masons were lit
Twistedfate Tue 17:07

yes, brand
Sona Tue 17:07

2 Militias shot, Brand
Brand Tue 17:07

Wait, two?
Sona Tue 17:07

Orianna and Ahri
Brand Tue 17:07

I have lost track of so much
Sona Tue 17:07

Orianna shotKarthus
Tue 17:07

Ahri shot Warwick
Brand Tue 17:08

Right
Sona Tue 17:08

so probably 2 fams
Ahri Tue 17:08

if we're lucky then Ez also tried to kill Karthus and had no fam
Brand Tue 17:08

So both vampires recruited :/
Twistedfate Tue 17:08

^^
Poppy Tue 17:08

@twisted
Tue 17:08

can you explain how all masons are evil?
Sona Tue 17:08

@Ahri unlikely
Ahri Tue 17:09

but it would explain Ez's claim and his actions
Twistedfate Tue 17:09

I don't think they all are, but Sona is just throwing crazy shit at walls hoping it sticks
Tue 17:09

something is wrong with the Mason stuff
Sona Tue 17:09

It is not in his interest to kill Karthus, because Karthus
Tue 17:10

It is not in his interest to kill Karthus, because Karthus' death makes Karthus more likely to be lit
Poppy Tue 17:10

well, Twisted, Sona is not the main foundation of the argument for Masons' validity. So until you can come up with a theory on Vi/Lucian/Orianna (and I confirmed Vi visited Ori N1), I can't see the point you're making :)
Sona Tue 17:10

@Twisted please quote my crazy shit
Twistedfate Tue 17:11

look, maybe ez is evil and masons are all lit, but then act like a fucking village
Poppy Tue 17:11

aha! but that's another point entirely
Twistedfate Tue 17:12

Sona, you've been throwing conspiracy theories bleft and right, and trusting veig is ludicrous
Poppy Tue 17:12

which I get, but isn't really focused on the best lynch today, right?
Tue 17:13

by the way, in all this: where's our protector? :o
Vi Tue 17:13

Damn I have to turn my laptop on for this
Tue 17:13

Damn
Twistedfate Tue 17:13

My point still remains that we have a publicly verified evil whom people are trusting because of Sona, largely
Vi Tue 17:13

Aight, I keep track of everthing, what do you wanna know
Poppy Tue 17:14

Alright, Twisted, I get your point. It's not persuading me to move my vote atm
Twistedfate Tue 17:14

psh, prot is likely dead, too
Brand Tue 17:14

I'd have to be Warwick then
Tue 17:14

Right?
Twistedfate Tue 17:15

I'd like it to at least be acknowledged because we have a djinn
Vi Tue 17:15

You would have to be Warwick? Are you a wolf huney
Brand Tue 17:15

It'd *
Vi Tue 17:15

Ah
Ahri Tue 17:15

Warwick was seen visiting noone N1
Tue 17:15

might be an inactive prot
Vi Tue 17:15

He was inactive, still can be prot
Brand Tue 17:16

So probably not then
Vi Tue 17:16

Yep
Brand Tue 17:16

I've militia shot the protector in the past, would not recommend it
Tue 17:17

2/10 Would not shoot again
Vi Tue 17:17

Brand, were you purge or not?
Ahri Tue 17:17

So I think the good stalk targets tonight are: 1. one of 2 remaining GDs (Jhin claimed to be purged), 2. Corki, because he's sus and might be a coven who can be swapped away
Vi Tue 17:18

purged*
Brand Tue 17:18

No
Sona Tue 17:18

Twisted, you know that truth, I don't
Brand Tue 17:18

I wasn't
Teemo Tue 17:18

U guys spoke so much....tl;dr?
Brand Tue 17:18

Why do you ask, Vi?
Teemo Tue 17:18

Anybody plz
Brand Tue 17:18

Teemo, role?
Vi Tue 17:18

So you can revive someone. I don't want you to use it tonight
Sona Tue 17:18

Reviver
Teemo Tue 17:18

I said it yesterday already
Brand Tue 17:18

Oh yeahhhhh
Teemo Tue 17:18

^^
Brand Tue 17:19

You're the other one
Vi Tue 17:19

Teemo were you purged last night
Brand Tue 17:19

Well, the third
Teemo Tue 17:19

Nope
Vi Tue 17:19

Actually there's Zilean yes
Brand Tue 17:19

Vi, I'll revive Graves then?
Ahri Tue 17:19

@Masons I would say in advance, I will not be able to come online soon in the mason night chat, so don't freak out if you don't see me show up soon
Vi Tue 17:19

Funny thing is Zilean does revive people in LOL lol
Tue 17:20

No, not yet
Tue 17:20

Not the right time
Teemo Tue 17:20

Who's been purged?
Kassadin Tue 17:20

Lucius is a Mastermind.
Sona Tue 17:21

@Ahri we leave a code in the mason chat for you, ok?
Ahri Tue 17:21

leave it here?
Tue 17:21

I mean I will not show up soon, but I will show up surely
Tue 17:21

don't worry
Tue 17:21

bye
Vi Tue 17:21

Revivers are not the main concern today. If VM recruit revivers they will lose bc revivers are not yet ready to prove themselves
Sona Tue 17:22

ok
Vi Tue 17:23

So far Kassadin and Jhin are claimed to be purged
Sona Tue 17:23

And Jhin still makes 0 sense
Twistedfate Tue 17:24

please stalk me, I can't deal with anymore of this bullshitbin one game
Tue 17:24

Jhin needs to eat a bag of dicks
Vi Tue 17:25

Yes Jhin's action is not from a cooperative player I can see
Twistedfate Tue 17:25

Reviver should consider bringing Graves back, though gy fuckery is possible
Sona Tue 17:26

We should say /which/ reviver
Vi Tue 17:26

TF can you please check Lissandra or Ezreal, one of the lynched
Twistedfate Tue 17:30

Do you want me to say which or keep it hidden in case of fuckery?
Sona Tue 17:31

Please say which
Tue 17:31

oh wait
Tue 17:31

Hmmm
Tue 17:31

depends on whether we want to put a stalker on you
Twistedfate Tue 17:31

And also, regardless of how angry I might be, I still want to be helpful. It's heated, and things *should* be better tomorrow
Tue 17:32

yeah, please stalk me
Sona Tue 17:32

I really don't want to steal coven x.x
Vi Tue 17:33

Don't steal yet
Sona Tue 17:33

Why?
Tue 17:33

Seer sounds good
Vi Tue 17:33

One of the reason why Lucian wanna recruit Sona is to know when she changes side
Kassadin Tue 17:34

So meta?
Vi Tue 17:34

Ah...may I ask why?
Brand Tue 17:34

I wasn't
Sona Tue 17:34

purged
Tue 17:34

ok
Kassadin Tue 17:35

Are lucius and Sona IRL mates? because this smells so fishy today.
Sona Tue 17:35

NO
Brand Tue 17:35

I... Didn't type that
Tue 17:35

Wtf
Sona Tue 17:35

I just manage to feel empathy
Vi Tue 17:35

Because Sona is GR, she can change side
Brand Tue 17:35

That's weird
Vi Tue 17:35

That's not meta thing like you said
Kassadin Tue 17:36

So you support Lucius because you have empathy?
Sona Tue 17:36

Who's Lucius?
Kassadin Tue 17:36

....
Tue 17:36

the 11th player from the top
Sona Tue 17:37

@Vi I wouldn't
Tue 17:37

ah Lucian
Vi Tue 17:37

Thank you
Twistedfate Tue 17:37

Vi recruited Sona, I thought?
Sona Tue 17:37

Yes
Vi Tue 17:37

Yes, but Lucian ask me to
Sona Tue 17:37

But the masons can coordinate
Twistedfate Tue 17:37

Ah
Kassadin Tue 17:38

If you defend lucius because empathy, I'm not sure if you know the word.
Twistedfate Tue 17:38

Yeah, I was talking more to kass
Kassadin Tue 17:39

mh? me?
Tue 17:39

Nobody talks to me
Sona Tue 17:40

Kassadin: You think that you can be an asshole to an asshole, I disagree, we don't have to argue here, ok?
Twistedfate Tue 17:40

Just about the Kuc/Son thing
Kassadin Tue 17:40

why can't we?
Twistedfate Tue 17:40

I misunderstood, I think, what was being said
Sona Tue 17:40

post-game, ok? I promise
Kassadin Tue 17:40

I wont watch this game finish. So no.
Sona Tue 17:40

Discord?
Twistedfate Tue 17:41

Oh, expect a post-game shitshow
Tue 17:41

I'm going to throw an actual fit XD
Kassadin Tue 17:41

So I don't have to. Which is good.
Sona Tue 17:41

Kassadin .. do you expect to die?
Twistedfate Tue 17:41

Many more f-words
Tue 17:42

such angry
Kassadin Tue 17:42

No, but I don't to help lucius win in any way.
Tue 17:42

I'll just sit here and watch the show
Vi Tue 17:42

Sona, I want you to log off your computer until night time
Kassadin Tue 17:42

until I close the window
Twistedfate Tue 17:43

Kass, you're stalker? or purged?
Kassadin Tue 17:43

you don't need to read to not get smited
Vi Tue 17:43

It's does not help arguing
Kassadin Tue 17:43

I'm purged by Corki, but our mason team doesn't think it's important
Sona Tue 17:43

ok, I need to rest anyway
Kassadin Tue 17:43

I saw him fking visit me
Tue 17:43

why log off until night time??
Twistedfate Tue 17:43

Man, this game
Kassadin Tue 17:43

wtf is this??
Sona Tue 17:43

(we can only lynch one person at a time)
Twistedfate Tue 17:44

Apparently you have to be a Mason to be of any consequence. . .
Kassadin Tue 17:44

Vi called my plan "shit", she's dead for me anyway.
Tue 17:45

Lucius, I told my opinion already
Tue 17:45

today acting mighty smart after executing my plan
Tue 17:45

told you all mason masterminds
Vi Tue 17:45

Wait, ctrl+f "shit" and I see none from me
Tue 17:45

You're giving out false information again
Kassadin Tue 17:46

Can't be more false than other what other nonsense players said today.
Vi Tue 17:47

Ah
Tue 17:47

I think I should log off too
Moderator Tue 17:48

Sona votes to lynch Ezreal
Sona Tue 17:48

Bye
Kassadin Tue 17:48

is this some kind of code?
Tue 17:51

Is this some kind of code, or the masons just saying good bye every time someone doesn't agree with them?
Tue 17:52

lucius did the same
Tue 17:52

twice
Poppy Tue 18:05

V
Tue 18:05

for Vendetta
Tue 18:05

for Varus
Tue 18:05

for Viktor
Tue 18:05

Varus needs to claim
Tue 18:05

Viktor needs to vote
Tue 18:05

and claim as well, I guess
Teemo Tue 18:55

U guys spoke way too much for me to catch up rn and no one will give me tl;dr so just tell me what the plans are for the night and im off
Tue 18:55

From what i did read tho, ez is pretty much an evil imo sooo
Moderator Tue 18:55

Teemo votes to lynch Ezreal
Teemo Tue 18:55

Anyeay peace out. Ill read the rest overnight
Poppy Tue 19:11

Anyone still here? :)
Brand Tue 19:13

Sorta
Poppy Tue 19:13

okay
Tue 19:14

So I didn't my check yet
Tue 19:14

state my check yet*
Tue 19:14

I was waiting for the person in question
Tue 19:14

but they're about to get smited
Tue 19:14

Viktor, it's time to come out and play
Brand Tue 19:14

uh oh
Tue 19:14

Who is it?
Tue 19:14

ugh, why am I so laggy today x_X
Poppy Tue 19:17

Well, there's only 2 possibilities for Viktor in my mind right now...
Brand Tue 19:17

Go on
Poppy Tue 19:18

I didn't want to out him if he were the village role I had in mind, but if he's gonna get smited it's a shame for the village anyway
Tue 19:18

Viktor visited Sona last night.
Tue 19:18

So he's either Prot or VM
Brand Tue 19:18

Or seer ;)
Tue 19:18

/me runs
Poppy Tue 19:18

Haha, alright - or the Seer ;)
Tue 19:19

Well, I emphasize the importance of checking for Sona's activity in Mason chat tonight.
Tue 19:20

Someone who has claimed GR is a very nice role to recruit, given that they can claim they robbed whichever role they got as Fam, and we couldn't contest it with a Djinn around
Tue 19:20

Not necessarily suspecting Sona here, but we need to exclude she's recruited of course
Tue 19:20

Anyway, that's all.
Tue 19:21

MASONS: THERE IS SOME IMPORTANT TEXT FOR YOU HERE. CHECK ABOVE
Tue 19:44

Shame on you, Viktor...
Twistedfate Tue 19:59

Am I telling my check? I just got back!
Poppy Tue 19:59

What?
Lynched Tue 20:00

Ezreal was lynched by the village
Killed Wed 08:00

Veigar was killed during the night
Killed Wed 08:00

Poppy was killed during the night
Vi Wed 08:02

Look at the stars,
Wed 08:02

Look how they shine for you,
Wed 08:02

And everything you do,
Wed 08:03

Yeah, they were all yellow.
Wed 08:03

Who revived Graves?
Ahri Wed 08:04

i thought it would be midnight blue if you looked at the night sky
Corki Wed 08:05

what did Sona claims
Wed 08:05

?
Sona Wed 08:05

Graverobber
Wed 08:05

I wanted to say something but I lost my train of thought
Corki Wed 08:05

did you rob?
Vi Wed 08:05

We told her not to
Wed 08:05

remember?
Corki Wed 08:06

sorry, I did not read all yesterday chat
Wed 08:06

ok
Vi Wed 08:06

Who did you stalk Corki
Sona Wed 08:06

fyi, a Graverobber can't be stalked
Wed 08:07

Corki, can you list everything you've seen so far?
Corki Wed 08:08

N1 : Maoki
Wed 08:08

N2; kassadin
Wed 08:08

N3 : Sona
Vi Wed 08:08

Result?
Corki Wed 08:08

only Kassadin visited me
Wed 08:08

the others stayed at home
Vi Wed 08:09

Okay cool
Wed 08:09

But if you know she did not go anywhere
Wed 08:09

Why did you ask her who did she rob?
Corki Wed 08:09

just checked if she said she go somewhere
Wed 08:10

last9
Vi Wed 08:10

And why Sona, any reason for that
Corki Wed 08:10

someone yesterday said Sona is evil, I consider between her and Lux
Wed 08:11

considered
Wed 08:11

actually yesterday I actived on phone, hard to keep up and typing
Vi Wed 08:12

Hmmm
Wed 08:12

I think an Alchemist turned into a Witch
Wed 08:13

They saved Veigar or kill Poppy or something
Wed 08:14

I need to hear from both Lux and Twisted fate
Ahri Wed 08:14

saved Veigar?
Wed 08:14

Veigar is dead
Sona Wed 08:14

And the revivers
Moderator Wed 08:14

Sona votes to lynch Twistedfate
Sona Wed 08:15

kill + swapped him
Moderator Wed 08:15

Sona votes to lynch Varus
Vi Wed 08:16

Sona, you seem to be more active today...
Sona Wed 08:17

Oh, oops
Wed 08:17

I like the color of your hair, Vi
Vi Wed 08:18

Why thank you :D
Sona Wed 08:18

idk, magenta's just great
Varus Wed 08:19

I am gonna claim now
Vi Wed 08:19

Okay
Sona Wed 08:19

[drumroll]
Varus Wed 08:19

I'm a protector, and I guarded poppy last night
Wed 08:20

I guarded lucian n1, myself n2, and poppy n3
Vi Wed 08:20

Okay...
Varus Wed 08:20

I am coming out since poppy died, so either poppy was coven and recruited by vamp, or a militia shot poppy
Sona Wed 08:20

1. Witchkill 2. Militiakill 3. Varus is lying
Ahri Wed 08:20

well damn
Varus Wed 08:20

or witch, ya
Ahri Wed 08:21

no militia
Vi Wed 08:21

I thought you have stuff to do in the morning Sona
Ahri Wed 08:21

yes witch is possible
Varus Wed 08:21

what about familiar militia
Sona Wed 08:21

&&
Varus Wed 08:21

that does count as militia
Sona Wed 08:21

^^
Ahri Wed 08:21

ah ok maybe
Varus Wed 08:21

or djinn
Wed 08:22

but I didn't see name swap, so shouldn't be
Vi Wed 08:25

Okay thank you
Sona Wed 08:25

@Vi I did my homework
Varus Wed 08:25

I'll be back later in the day
Wed 08:26

just figured I'd throw that out early
Sona Wed 08:26

I'm currently on the bus, hard to play
Wed 08:29

I bet that 2 revivers will claim to have revived Graves
Wed 08:34

It's a bit weird
Vi Wed 08:35

uhm...
Sona Wed 08:35

@Vi What do you think about Corki <-> Kassadin?
Vi Wed 08:36

I think we should let them be today
Sona Wed 08:36

And instead? Sort out the Revivers?
Corki Wed 08:37

what's the matter between me and Kassadin?
Ahri Wed 08:37

Corki's result today still seems to be made up
Vi Wed 08:37

Hear the result from Lux and TF first
Corki Wed 08:37

It does not "made up"
Wed 08:37

xD
Wed 08:38

it's totally what I did
Ahri Wed 08:38

you may know exactly if it's made up or not, but for me it looks like easy to be made up
Sona Wed 08:40

Corki ... why did you stalk Kassadin?
Corki Wed 08:43

as I said, I'm stalker
Wed 08:43

but there're 3 claimed
Wed 08:43

so 1 of them was a liar
Wed 08:43

i just pick 1 of them
Wed 08:44

then I pick Kass
Wed 08:44

sadly, he also picked me that night lol
Wed 08:44

what a shame
Sona Wed 08:44

Why not Poppy or Lux?
Corki Wed 08:45

random, and i did not find the line Kass said he stalked Maoki N1
Wed 08:45

If I did, I might pick another
Ahri Wed 08:47

but why didn't you show up and claim D2?
Wed 08:48

when you saw 3 stalker claims
Wed 08:48

if you were a lit stalker then shouldn't you have been stood up and claim?
Corki Wed 08:50

I did not active D2
Wed 08:50

actually I active very early
Wed 08:51

said hi, but no one there
Wed 08:51

then I was afk for the whole day, "family stuff"
Wed 08:51

and did not expected that we made a total role call on D2
Wed 08:52

when I come back on D3, also thought that militia gonna shoot me on N2
Wed 08:52

*came
Ahri Wed 09:02

that could be true, but I'm not very convinced yet
Corki Wed 09:04

well it's up to you guys
Wed 09:05

however, should we focus about revived one today?
Sona Wed 10:16

*silence*
Lucian Wed 10:30

SCARLET
Wed 10:30

SIlence breaker :D
Wed 10:33

Ori problaly told you guys very clearly i had to stay in class :P
Sona Wed 10:47

relief
Lucian Wed 10:47

relieve?
Ahri Wed 10:49

oh thanks god
Wed 10:49

I thought you were recruited
Lucian Wed 10:52

;D
Sona Wed 10:54

where's everyone?
Lucian Wed 10:55

sniped
Moderator Wed 10:55

Lucian votes to lynch Brand
Lucian Wed 10:56

let kill the top one of the AFK list first
Orianna Wed 10:56

Yay lunch time
Ahri Wed 10:56

Brand is not afk, he talked yesterday
Orianna Wed 10:57

Lime green*
Brand Wed 11:09

Brand isn't afk, he's just really busy today because some ass stuck meetings all through his lunch hour :(
Wed 11:09

I'll be back in, idk, four hours or so to answer any question you guys might have
Sona Wed 11:10

Did Brand revive?
Brand Wed 11:10

Also, Lucian, please try to be less of an arse today
Lucian Wed 11:10

lol xD
Wed 11:11

that supposed to be an asv
Zilean Wed 11:19

Hey guys
Wed 11:20

Seems that today is more quiet than other days
Sona Wed 11:21

I don't know why
Zilean Wed 11:21

It
Wed 11:21

Nvm
Sona Wed 11:21

Did you use your revive:
Wed 11:21

?
Zilean Wed 11:21

I will answer later
Wed 11:22

...Now I dont think so
Wed 11:22

I didnt
Ahri Wed 11:22

why is everyone so mysterious today...
Zilean Wed 11:24

And so quiet...
Moderator Wed 11:24

Zilean votes to lynch Teemo
Zilean Wed 11:27

I think Jhin and Twistedfate are puppets
Wed 11:27

So who revive Graves?
Sona Wed 11:28

A reviver, I guess
Wed 11:28

= either Teemo or Brand
Wed 11:28

Finally someone who doubts Twistedfate
Zilean Wed 11:34

I think a witch revived Graves since I believe Veigar
Wed 11:34

Silence is always creepy...
Moderator Wed 11:35

Zilean votes to lynch Lux
Moderator Wed 11:36

Zilean votes to lynch Brand
Lucian Wed 12:08

haiz...
Varus Wed 12:34

asv
Moderator Wed 12:34

Varus votes to lynch Lucian
Ahri Wed 12:42

Jhin and TF can't be puppets, or PM at the same time
Wed 12:42

they were talking at the same time a few times
Wed 12:42

but I'm thinking of another theory
Wed 12:43

that Jhin might be the VM, and TF was originally GD but recruited N2
Wed 12:44

what would you do if you were Jhin and as a vampire, and claimed GD?
Wed 12:44

of course recruiting another GD would be a good move
Wed 12:45

it's just a hypothesis anw, but it makes sense to me
Moderator Wed 12:52

Ahri votes to lynch Corki
Sona Wed 12:52

We can start counting the evils
Wed 12:53

Lissandra, Karthus, Ezreal
Wed 12:53

= confirmed evils
Moderator Wed 12:53

Sona votes to lynch Graves
Lucian Wed 13:02

And you vote for Grave?
Wed 13:02

Oh ASV my bad
Vi Wed 13:02

Voting for Graves until he starts to talk
Moderator Wed 13:03

Vi votes to lynch Graves
Lucian Wed 13:03

lel
Vi Wed 13:03

The site loads much faster today, what's going on?
Lucian Wed 13:04

wierd
Wed 13:04

it is much slower for me
Wed 13:04

(well... only on my phone :P
Wed 13:04

)
Vi Wed 13:05

It's much faster on my phone than yesterday tho :o
Lucian Wed 13:06

lol
Wed 13:06

i can i had to wait 10 sec to get in this site
Wed 13:06

usually i just need 2
Wed 13:07

... could be some kind of mainiac building a lag machine :|
Vi Wed 13:07

Hmm
Wed 13:08

I suggest we lynch Graves if he doesn't speak 'till the end of the day
Wed 13:09

We still have VM or 2 around
Wed 13:10

2 kills usually mean there are still 2 vamps, but 1 revive makes me think there's one witch kill and one vamp kill
Lucian Wed 13:11

lol
Wed 13:11

we have 2 revivers
Wed 13:11

and Graves would be smite by our powerful god
Wed 13:11

if he doesnt speak
Wed 13:11

so why border? :|
Vi Wed 13:11

Who knows what would happen
Lucian Wed 13:12

Lol i will go ask mod if you want
Vi Wed 13:12

One of the revivers please revive poppy, I think she's trustworthy enough to be revived
Lucian Wed 13:14

lel
Wed 13:14

why dont they save it for our mason members?
Vi Wed 13:15

...
Wed 13:15

That's pretty selfish
Wed 13:16

Can you please use less 'lol', I feel uncomfortable
Lucian Wed 13:17

lol
Wed 13:17

i like to use lol
Wed 13:17

for some reson
Wed 13:17

only today so dont woory
Zilean Wed 13:18

The name Poppy reminds me of a weird girl
Wed 13:18

Im gonna revive poppy
Lucian Wed 13:22

thanks
Sona Wed 13:53

I'm voting because he's coven until a reviver claims to have revived him
Teemo Wed 14:51

Hey, Teemo here
Wed 14:51

I did not revive Graves. Nor have I been purged
Moderator Wed 15:02

Zilean votes to lynch Graves
Moderator Wed 15:03

Teemo votes to lynch Graves
Teemo Wed 15:04

Wait shouldnt we be voting Twisted or jhin since they both lied about graves being seer?
Wed 15:04

I guess it doesnt matter the order
Wed 15:05

Oh wait, that would mean veigar was telling the truth and that graves is really their alchemist
Wed 15:05

So yea lets continue lynching graves lol
Wed 15:06

But now we caught two more evils ^.^
Wed 15:07

And out of the 3 revivers, something tells me Brand is the fake
Brand Wed 15:17

Okay, great
Wed 15:17

I'm back
Wed 15:17

I revived Graves
Wed 15:19

I figured he was as good a revive as any — there's a chance both Twisted and Jhin are lying about him being seer and there's always the possibility he was swapped in the grave... But it was either revive or wait and I didn't want to wait
Teemo Wed 15:20

Okay so I guess now its up to zilean and I to prove we can revive
Brand Wed 15:24

Hmm, I forgot to vote yesterday, too -_-
Moderator Wed 15:24

Brand votes to lynch Varus
Brand Wed 15:25

Couple of points – Did everyone see Poppy's claim last night?
Wed 15:25

If not, you should go back and read
Wed 15:26

Or, if you're lazy: Viktor apparently visited Sona, and Poppy concluded he must be either VM or Prot
Wed 15:26

I don't think he could be VM right (especially since he was smited) so that makes me wary of Varus's claim
Wed 15:27

Secondly, Kassadin has been way too quiet today compared to yesterday
Wed 15:29

What if he wasn't "purged" by an Alchemist but by being turned into a familiar by Ez – if we lynched the VM then Kassadin might be Ez and starting quiet to avoid being called out?
Wed 15:30

Alternatively, maybe Kassadin is Veigar; a freshly purged stalker might be a good target for a coven shift
Graves Wed 15:31

oh wow i was not expecting to be revived
Wed 15:32

happy i checked again today
Twistedfate Wed 15:32

Sorry for the last minute confusion yesterday
Wed 15:32

My question was meant to say "should i tell who I'm digging?"
Brand Wed 15:32

Hi Graves, role please
Twistedfate Wed 15:32

I tried typing on mobile, but it makes me sign in every single time
Graves Wed 15:33

are we doing role reveal
Twistedfate Wed 15:33

Ez was fam
Brand Wed 15:33

We've already done one
Graves Wed 15:33

i havent read the chat just kept checking if i was alive
Brand Wed 15:33

Guess you've not been following
Twistedfate Wed 15:33

Yeah, everyone has claimed
Graves Wed 15:33

ok seer
Wed 15:34

has anyone else said seer
Brand Wed 15:34

Okay, can you prove it?
Wed 15:34

N1 check?
Wed 15:34

Twisted, nice btw
Wed 15:34

What do you think of my theory above?
Graves Wed 15:35

vi mason leader
Brand Wed 15:35

Uh
Wed 15:35

You saw the role?
Moderator Wed 15:35

Brand votes to lynch Graves
Graves Wed 15:35

no village sorry im reading chat as we go through
Wed 15:36

theres a lot to catch up on
Twistedfate Wed 15:36

Oh, c'mon, Graves
Brand Wed 15:36

*looks suspiciously at Graves*
Graves Wed 15:37

my fault for trying to skim and talk at same time
Wed 15:37

is there a tldr somewhere i can read
Brand Wed 15:38

Idk, maybe Sona can provide one
Graves Wed 15:38

i will read the full thing tonight but would be nice to know whats happening now
Brand Wed 15:38

I cba on mobile
Graves Wed 15:38

ok
Wed 15:39

i guess votes on me since i was revived
Brand Wed 15:39

Twisted, still around?
Wed 15:39

Yep, never trust the revivee
Graves Wed 15:39

anyone else say they seer
Brand Wed 15:39

No, not yet
Graves Wed 15:39

ok
Wed 15:40

did anyone check me in grave
Wed 15:40

oh i see two did
Brand Wed 15:40

We've had three reviver claims, three militia claims, about a billion stalker claims
Wed 15:40

One protector and one seer
Wed 15:40

Three GDs
Wed 15:41

Two GRs
Wed 15:41

No-one claimed Vampire yet, but there's still time
Sona Wed 15:42

Graves messed up
Wed 15:43

And no reviver claims to have revived him
Twistedfate Wed 15:43

Sorry, multitasking
Sona Wed 15:43

Case closed
Brand Wed 15:43

Sona, I claimed
Wed 15:43

Above
Sona Wed 15:43

Oh
Twistedfate Wed 15:43

My guess is djinn GY fuckery, then
Wed 15:43

So ex was not VM, unfortunately
Brand Wed 15:43

Twisted
Wed 15:44

He could have been
Graves Wed 15:44

i didnt see any swaps in the gy
Brand Wed 15:44

If VM dies they come back in the first familiar instantly
Graves Wed 15:44

not seeing much chat as i scroll
Twistedfate Wed 15:44

Oh, right!
Graves Wed 15:44

sorry chat from dead
Moderator Wed 15:44

Sona votes to lynch Kassadin
Brand Wed 15:44

So lynch VM = familiar in GY
Graves Wed 15:44

just liss saying she was gr
Twistedfate Wed 15:44

I'm not sure what to make of Kass ow
Sona Wed 15:44

Defended him yesterday
Graves Wed 15:45

and kart said a couple of things nothing useful
Twistedfate Wed 15:45

Did he defend him, or was he just pissed at all of the awfulness?
Wed 15:45

I obviously didn't read everything yesterday
Wed 15:45

Way too pissed
Graves Wed 15:45

i can tell you more tomorrow theres a chance ive miseed some as i skim
Sona Wed 15:46

didn't want to lynch him
Brand Wed 15:46

Did you both read my little monologue above?
Graves Wed 15:46

multitaking on this is hard
Brand Wed 15:46

Specifically WRT Poppy's claim
Graves Wed 15:46

multitasking sorry
Sona Wed 15:46

Did someone dig Victor?
Wed 15:46

Join was purged, right?
Wed 15:46

Jhin*
Brand Wed 15:47

/me thinks he's being ignored :(
Sona Wed 15:47

I'm still mason, Brand
Twistedfate Wed 15:47

Well, I didn't want to lynch him either, technically
Wed 15:48

Not because I didn't think he was evil, per se, but because Veig was obviously evil to me
Brand Wed 15:48

Sona, so what do you think about the Poppy / Viktor / Varus situation?
Twistedfate Wed 15:48

I did, Brand
Wed 15:48

Not feeling so good about varus
Brand Wed 15:49

I don't think Viktor could be anything other than Protector right now?
Sona Wed 15:49

Varus is sus
Graves Wed 15:49

sora are you the other gr
Sona Wed 15:49

Fam?
Graves Wed 15:50

yes i see it was you have you stole a role
Brand Wed 15:50

I think VM
Wed 15:50

If he was Fam he'd have a village role to claim
Wed 15:50

But it doesn't seem that way?
Wed 15:51

Could be coven though
Sona Wed 15:51

Or Poppy's lying
Wed 15:51

We had 2 kills last night ...
Brand Wed 15:51

You think it's likely?
Sona Wed 15:51

idk
Brand Wed 15:52

Would that make Poppy Familiar (Stalker) maybe?
Wed 15:52

Could have died if the other VM tried to recruit her
Sona Wed 15:53

hmm
Wed 15:53

kassadin also claimed purged
Brand Wed 15:53

But, mmmh, she revealed the check so late when it was obvious Viktor was gonna be smited
Wed 15:54

So maybe she didn't see anything at all
Wed 15:54

Would Viktor really turn up for his night check but then allow himself to be smited?
Wed 15:54

Sona, I theorised on that above
Wed 15:55

Kassadin wasn't outed when he was supposedly purged, so I'm wondering if he was recruited instead?
Graves Wed 15:55

if poppy was right and if sona was visited but nothing happened what would that make viktor
Brand Wed 15:57

Protector, Seer, Stalker, VM who recruited, ML
Wed 15:57

But Seer, ML and Stalker roles are all taken
Graves Wed 15:58

ok but if sona is a mason and other masons confirm she still talks and im seer that means sona cant be recruited
Brand Wed 15:58

So we're left with Protector and VM who recruited
Graves Wed 15:58

ok yeah
Brand Wed 15:58

Sona is a mason, so the latter seems out
Graves Wed 15:58

did masons see sona in chat last night
Wed 15:58

i guess yes
Brand Wed 15:58

@Masons
Twistedfate Wed 15:58

I was about ask if all masons are verified
Wed 15:59

Still trying to read (and eat, and feed others)
Graves Wed 15:59

well vi was village and said she is mason leader so if she is lying she must have been recruited
Brand Wed 15:59

Sona claims she's still a mason, plus Lucian and the others have all checked in and not screamed about her not hanging out in chat last night
Wed 15:59

Do I'd assume she's safe
Graves Wed 15:59

i agree brand
Brand Wed 16:00

So *
Wed 16:00

So that leaves Viktor as protector
Wed 16:00

RIP village
Graves Wed 16:00

looks like it thats not good
Moderator Wed 16:01

Brand votes to lynch Varus
Brand Wed 16:01

I think we need to pressure either Varus or Kassadin (or both)
Graves Wed 16:01

has varus claimed i dont see anything when i search
Vi Wed 16:01

To be honest, I can't believe the sketchiness of Brand and Graves
Brand Wed 16:02

If Graves is evil, he's coven so shouldn't be a priority in my opinion
Vi Wed 16:02

Varus claimed protector
Brand Wed 16:02

Vi, yes, and Poppy claimed Viktor was protector
Wed 16:03

And right now I trust Poppy more than Varus
Vi Wed 16:03

Graves, who did not speak in the graveyard
Graves Wed 16:05

i did speak in the dead when i was first killed but it was quiet
Brand Wed 16:05

Are masons always this rude to normal villagers or is Lucian just a bad influence -_-
Wed 16:06

Graves, I think it was a question
Graves Wed 16:06

oh i see sorry
Wed 16:06

one minute i will quickly check
Vi Wed 16:08

Brand if you're the reviver, you should be the one to know that lingering between admitting haveing revived someone or not is super coven like
Brand Wed 16:09

Vi, I wanted to see if either of the other two tried to take credit for it
Graves Wed 16:09

maoki did not speak liss spoke once karthus spoke a little now and then and warwick did not speak
Brand Wed 16:09

I even suggested I was going to do it yesterday
Graves Wed 16:10

unless i have missed any but i think that is right
Vi Wed 16:10

Thank you Graves
Brand Wed 16:10

Vi, do you have anything to add to the Varus situation or are you happy with his protector claim?
Vi Wed 16:11

We're going have a way to verify that
Wed 16:11

If we believe TF, then Ezreal is hiding somewhere
Brand Wed 16:12

So you think Poppy was full of shit?
Wed 16:12

Poopy
Wed 16:12

We could rename her
Vi Wed 16:12

How do you know viktor is a stalker or not?
Brand Wed 16:12

Because there are already too many stalker claims
Vi Wed 16:12

And why are you starting to sound like Kass
Brand Wed 16:13

It's not likely imho?
Wed 16:13

Vi, because he's the only one who talks sense?
Vi Wed 16:13

Seriously
Wed 16:14

Kassadin is who I am talking about
Brand Wed 16:14

Probably because I'm irritated that it seems like you turned up and ignored everything I've said, including the thing that I'd just spent like twenty minutes training out
Vi Wed 16:15

Talk like, what I mean is pattern wise
Twistedfate Wed 16:15

I don't have my notes in fron of me, what was Zileans claim?
Graves Wed 16:15

vi is right viktor could be protector or stalker even with the mason stuff if one of our stalkers is not village
Vi Wed 16:15

Because I have reasons to believe that Viktor might not be prot
Brand Wed 16:15

Twisted, reviver iirc
Vi Wed 16:15

Zilean claimed reviver @tf
Brand Wed 16:16

Vi, maybe you could share them?
Twistedfate Wed 16:16

Thanks
Wed 16:17

Anyone still believing veigar should probably be watched pretty hard, I think
Brand Wed 16:17

Vi, fine, any objection to pressuring Kassadin then?
Vi Wed 16:17

First of all, I'd like all the vanillasto vote for Kass first
Moderator Wed 16:17

Brand votes to lynch Kassadin
Vi Wed 16:17

Yes, we have the same idea
Twistedfate Wed 16:17

It makes me sad to pressure Kass, because he stood up for me, but he normally talks a ton, and today it's crickets
Moderator Wed 16:17

Twistedfate votes to lynch Kassadin
Moderator Wed 16:18

Vi votes to lynch Kassadin
Vi Wed 16:18

And graves did not share his role
Twistedfate Wed 16:18

?
Wed 16:18

Graves told his role
Brand Wed 16:18

The thing that got me about Kass was "Corki visited me, I'm purged, Corki purged me"
Vi Wed 16:18

If he is seer he should share his n1 check
Brand Wed 16:19

Vi, you
Twistedfate Wed 16:19

He did
Graves Wed 16:19

i did vi it was you
Brand Wed 16:19

He said
Vi Wed 16:19

Me?
Twistedfate Wed 16:19

Yes
Vi Wed 16:19

Okay thank you
Brand Wed 16:19

Although he claimed "Vi mason leader" first
Graves Wed 16:19

i said your role accidentally as i was skimming the chat when i was asked
Twistedfate Wed 16:19

First he said "Mason Leader", then aid villager and said he was reading at the time of his mistake
Graves Wed 16:20

but yes i checked you when i died
Brand Wed 16:20

Then blamed it on reading the backlog at the same time, but *shifty eyes*
Wed 16:20

So Kass seemed generally reasonable and rational
Wed 16:20

Like he knew how to reason
Graves Wed 16:20

i have two windows open to try and catch up i was not expecting a revive but anway is the reason for kass because he is quiet
Brand Wed 16:20

Yet he blamed Corki for him being purged
Wed 16:21

Chances of both a Stalker and an Alchemist visiting him on the same night? Low, I guess, but he didn't seem to consider it at all
Wed 16:22

Coupled with the fact that he wasn't "outed" I think it's more likely he was turned by a vampire
Twistedfate Wed 16:22

I have some what ifs that I want to ask, but I want to wait a bit as there's a lot of time left
Wed 16:22

Someone remind me
Wed 16:22

closer to end of day
Graves Wed 16:22

that makes some sense i would like to hold off voting for anyone until i have read more of the previous days though
Brand Wed 16:22

Then it really seemed like he tried to divert the lynch from Ez, so I'm giving Ez was VM and Kass was familiar
Wed 16:23

Twisted, think it's wise to wait? Do they depend on certain people being around?
Vi Wed 16:23

One quick question: if fam militia uses the shot and then vamp comes back to kill one other, will it results in two kills?
Twistedfate Wed 16:23

The kass thing has a lot of meta in it for me
Wed 16:23

Haha, it does depend on people showing up
Wed 16:24

Vi, I'm pretty sure
Brand Wed 16:24

Vi, what'ya mean?
Twistedfate Wed 16:24

Have any militia claimed a shot?
Brand Wed 16:24

Vampire Master comes back instantly
Twistedfate Wed 16:24

Do you mean a vamp kill and a militia shot on 2 different people?
Brand Wed 16:24

Like, e.g. we lynch Ez and Kassadin dies in Ez's body
Vi Wed 16:25

So instantly, not like normal vampire who takes a while
Brand Wed 16:25

Yeah, there's no making involved with VM
Graves Wed 16:25

oh so if fam hit by militia it would be the vamp that died is that what you mean
Vi Wed 16:25

What I mean is Kass might be turned in to fam militia
Brand Wed 16:25

That's (I assume) why Twisted was Ez as Familiar
Graves Wed 16:25

ok no it wasnt nevermind
Vi Wed 16:25

Then Ezreal jump in the body
Graves Wed 16:26

oh so you think kass is ez so he is quiet
Vi Wed 16:26

Yes
Brand Wed 16:26

So Ez goes into the body at the start of the night, so there's no chance for the Familiar to use their militia shot
Vi Wed 16:26

Okay
Brand Wed 16:27

(I think)
Wed 16:27

(Disclaimer, I've never been VM)
Graves Wed 16:27

if it at start of night that would make sense
Brand Wed 16:27

(I'm basing this off ext-170 and Discord chat)
Twistedfate Wed 16:28

Oh, yeah, it's instant
Wed 16:28

No wait
Wed 16:28

I would see Ez as fam if he was VM last night
Wed 16:28

So that's the case, most likely
Vi Wed 16:29

Yeah
Brand Wed 16:29

So the question is, do we think there's another recruit after Kassadin?
Wed 16:29

Because if not we could cut this down to one kill a night
Twistedfate Wed 16:29

So I'll concede that, after all of my whining and bitching and complaining and moping, yes, Ez was the better kill
Wed 16:30

looks like Veig was coven and not VM
Wed 16:31

Which makes sense, given the alch claim, hoping to make us think there was one less in the game
Vi Wed 16:31

Yeah, maybe
Brand Wed 16:31

Yeah
Vi Wed 16:31

You should check Lissandra too TF
Brand Wed 16:31

Wait, hmm
Wed 16:32

Oh nevermind
Wed 16:32

I'm dumb
Twistedfate Wed 16:32

Oh, yeah?
Wed 16:32

I was going to check Vik, but Liss is fine
Brand Wed 16:32

But I agree, check TF
Wed 16:32

Um
Wed 16:32

Wtf my brain
Twistedfate Wed 16:32

I'm not dead!
Brand Wed 16:32

Check Liss, TF
Twistedfate Wed 16:32

XD
Brand Wed 16:32

Fml
Wed 16:32

I'm going afk for a few minutes
Twistedfate Wed 16:33

The thing about saying who I'll dig, though, is that it gives coven a target for fuckery
Brand Wed 16:33

(I'm meant to be playing WW irl too, I seriously hope I can think straight by then)
Vi Wed 16:33

Well...I don't know if I should spill the bean
Twistedfate Wed 16:33

Now oyu have to, because hinting is baaaaaaaad
Brand Wed 16:33

Vi, will you clear them up afterwards?
Wed 16:33

(but, what Twisted said)
Twistedfate Wed 16:34

I bean
Wed 16:34

. . .
Wed 16:34

1 bean
Wed 16:34

spill 1 bean
Brand Wed 16:34

XD
Twistedfate Wed 16:34

G'night everybody!
Vi Wed 16:34

Okay
Brand Wed 16:34

What a sad, lonely bean
Vi Wed 16:34

You should ask Sona, she got a whole can
Brand Wed 16:34

https://media.giphy.com/media/SasDDqOSRclNu/giphy.gif
Twistedfate Wed 16:35

Mmmm, chicken legs
Wed 16:35

Vi, do you have something to tell us, though?
Wed 16:35

And where is Sona, if she has a lot of info?
Brand Wed 16:36

What's the bean. I'm impatient :(
Vi Wed 16:36

Sona robbed Viktor, unsuccessful
Twistedfate Wed 16:36

AHA
Vi Wed 16:36

GOD. DAMMIT
Twistedfate Wed 16:36

Why didn't she tell us that?
Brand Wed 16:37

Ooooh, interesting!
Vi Wed 16:37

She willbe purged if she got prot or sth
Twistedfate Wed 16:37

There's 1 purge left, right?
Vi Wed 16:37

So better stay hidden
Brand Wed 16:37

Assuming it wasn't already used on someone who died
Vi Wed 16:38

If you believe Kass or Jhin
Twistedfate Wed 16:38

I thought we had 2 purge claims?
Wed 16:38

Oh right
Brand Wed 16:38

Ah that too
Twistedfate Wed 16:38

Fucking Jhin
Wed 16:38

Will never forgive
Brand Wed 16:38

And I not sure I believe Kass
Twistedfate Wed 16:38

*gasp* What if veif was PM
Wed 16:38

Kass puppet
Wed 16:38

Who else hasn't talked at all?
Brand Wed 16:39

Oh, that's a thought!
Vi Wed 16:39

Yeah, vik war mao
Twistedfate Wed 16:39

So we cannot lynch any non-talkers today
Ahri Wed 16:39

hey, so long to read
Twistedfate Wed 16:39

We need to see if they die
Wed 16:39

Hi, Ahri
Ahri Wed 16:40

viktor could also be some coven roles
Wed 16:40

Hi TF
Vi Wed 16:40

But that means Poppy was lying
Ahri Wed 16:40

possibly, but maybe a purged coven ?
Wed 16:40

an early purge
Wed 16:41

or i wonder if viktor is a village role and purged into sleepwalker
Wed 16:41

he's seen visiting but still be smited, that could explain
Brand Wed 16:42

Why wouldn't he tell us?.
Ahri Wed 16:42

who? viktor? he's afk and didnt even show up
Wed 16:42

he was smited you don't remember?
Brand Wed 16:42

This might be a stupid question, but can GR steal smited roles?
Vi Wed 16:43

no idea
Brand Wed 16:43

I remember being GD once and I couldn't check a smited player
Ahri Wed 16:43

I guess yes, the last role before he died
Wed 16:43

but idk
Brand Wed 16:43

There was just no buttons next to their name
Vi Wed 16:43

I once can't dig a smoted
Ahri Wed 16:43

there's so many contradictions that I can't make up my mind
Vi Wed 16:43

Yep
Wed 16:44

Ihad to ask for mod's help
Brand Wed 16:44

Ahri, let's start simple: Kassadin
Ahri Wed 16:44

Kassadin looks sus but might just be sulky like he was yesterday, while Corki's claim is still felt made up
Twistedfate Wed 16:45

Corki is definitely up there on my list
Wed 16:45

Corki is probably alchemist
Ahri Wed 16:45

and I'm not sure why Graves automatically gains trust so much
Twistedfate Wed 16:45

*was
Ahri Wed 16:45

because he was talking today?
Twistedfate Wed 16:45

Graves has a degree of suspicion for fuckery
Vi Wed 16:45

But GR can't be seen robbing (on h2p)
Brand Wed 16:46

Oh that's interesting
Sona Wed 16:46

Guess who's back
Twistedfate Wed 16:46

So if someone stalks GR when they rob, they getno result?
Wed 16:46

Hey Sona
Brand Wed 16:46

Vi, any reason Sona went for Viktor and not Graves?
Twistedfate Wed 16:46

Guuuurl, you got info
Brand Wed 16:47

Sona, any reason Sona went for Viktor and not Graves?
Twistedfate Wed 16:47

Why would you rob vik?
Vi Wed 16:47

I told her to
Twistedfate Wed 16:47

Seems a dangerous move
Ahri Wed 16:47

Brand, because we thought the GD things still wasn't concluded
Sona Wed 16:47

No ... it was 100% safe
Vi Wed 16:47

Can't rob vamp or fam
Twistedfate Wed 16:47

Oh right right
Wed 16:47

Sorry
Vi Wed 16:47

99% safe
Twistedfate Wed 16:48

Yeah
Sona Wed 16:48

Poppy could have been lying
Brand Wed 16:49

I trusted Poppy ;-;
Twistedfate Wed 16:49

I think Poppy was pretty universally trusted
Sona Wed 16:49

Twisted, what did you dig tongiht?
Twistedfate Wed 16:50

Ez, fam
Brand Wed 16:50

Ez = Familiar
Wed 16:50

I'm so slow
Twistedfate Wed 16:50

It's okay
Wed 16:50

And I already apologized and said that it was the right move and I'm a bitch, essentially
Wed 16:50

XD
Sona Wed 16:50

Oh, good that you acknowledge that
Wed 16:50

jk
Twistedfate Wed 16:51

But jhin can still break a pinky toe to my delight
Wed 16:51

<3
Brand Wed 16:51

Vi, am I right I thinking there are only five masons?
Sona Wed 16:51

Twisted = evil confirmed
Vi Wed 16:51

Yep
Wed 16:51

Why @sona
Twistedfate Wed 16:51

Luc, Sona, Vi, Ori, and Ahri?
Wed 16:51

What?
Brand Wed 16:51

Right, I think I get what you meant earlier now
Sona Wed 16:51

Twistedfate Wed 16:51 But jhin can still break a pinky toe to my delight Wed 16:51 <3
Vi Wed 16:52

Lmao
Twistedfate Wed 16:52

Look, I have never been so mad at a game in my life
Wed 16:52

He agreed to it, and let me fuck myself over, just to pull a prank
Wed 16:52

No love
Brand Wed 16:53

Harder for the main course to run away, amirite?
Twistedfate Wed 16:53

Dead to me
Sona Wed 16:53

Did Veigar shift out?
Ahri Wed 16:53

jhin hasn't talked since the fucked up GD reveal
Twistedfate Wed 16:53

Shift?
Sona Wed 16:53

Swap
Ahri Wed 16:53

anyone noticeds that?
Twistedfate Wed 16:53

I wonder if Jhin was puppet?
Sona Wed 16:53

Aye
Brand Wed 16:53

Sona, who into?
Sona Wed 16:53

Fox is missing too
Twistedfate Wed 16:53

Yes, I noticed, believe me
Ahri Wed 16:54

then how did a puppet get a same result with you?
Sona Wed 16:54

@Brand anyone who hasn't talked yet?
Twistedfate Wed 16:54

Yeah, that's true
Wed 16:54

I just have to look for ways that an actual player would do that
Sona Wed 16:54

Maybe guessed
Twistedfate Wed 16:54

Like, I can't fathom ever doing that to someone on purpose
Sona Wed 16:54

Still no swaps ... right?
Twistedfate Wed 16:55

Possible GY, though
Brand Wed 16:55

Sona, right sorry I'm still being dumb... I was going to say "why hadn't the person they were swapped with told us"
Twistedfate Wed 16:55

Which is what makes graves sus
Brand Wed 16:55

I think I need a lie down
Twistedfate Wed 16:55

Poor Brand
Sona Wed 16:55

@Brand Swap + Kill? If there's a witch
Wed 16:55

I don't believe that he's coven + recruited by Vamp
Brand Wed 16:56

Yeah, yeah I got what you meant
Sona Wed 16:56

Either Djinn's dead or the GY is really messed up
Wed 16:57

Graves said that there were no swap claims in the GY?
Brand Wed 16:57

Or Djinn was rerolled
Twistedfate Wed 16:57

Graves' account of the GY is. . . spotty
Sona Wed 16:57

^^
Wed 16:58

If a Djinn is alive, Graves is most likely not lit
Wed 17:01

*silence*
Twistedfate Wed 17:02

Sorry, I'm running back and forth to the computer
Ahri Wed 17:02

sorry I'm busy today
Sona Wed 17:02

Different option:Veigar was lit and Twisted killed him
Twistedfate Wed 17:02

I think that's likely, Sona
Ahri Wed 17:02

and prob tmr, will be traveling
Twistedfate Wed 17:02

Is anyone about to be smited?
Sona Wed 17:02

Lux
Ahri Wed 17:02

TF: what did you say likely?
Sona Wed 17:03

Or even better
Ahri Wed 17:03

Sona has just said about veigar was lit and you killed him
Vi Wed 17:03

Wait who is Fox
Sona Wed 17:03

Brand killed Veigar and revived his mate Graves
Twistedfate Wed 17:03

That if djinn is alive, Graves is not Graves
Sona Wed 17:03

Fox?
Wed 17:03

Lux?
Vi Wed 17:03

Wed 16:53 Fox is missing too
Sona Wed 17:03

Oops
Wed 17:04

Fox = Lux
Vi Wed 17:04

Okay now it makes sense :D
Ahri Wed 17:05

Lux has been missing from yesterday
Sona Wed 17:05

Twisted looks so evil to me /o\
Twistedfate Wed 17:05

If you really still think I'm evil, I don't know what to do at this point, Sona
Vi Wed 17:05

Okay I've just asked mod and he said GR can rob Alchemist
Sona Wed 17:05

I think /you/ can do nothing about it
Twistedfate Wed 17:05

Like, what is your thought process there?
Vi Wed 17:06

I was going to ask Sona to rob Maokai and Warwick, but I think I'll take that back
Twistedfate Wed 17:06

Do you not get how fucked over I got yesterday?
Sona Wed 17:06

Doesn't mean you're real
Twistedfate Wed 17:07

Well where are the stalkers who I've asked for for 2 nights?
Wed 17:07

Sorry, Sona, but you're being ridiculous
Vi Wed 17:07

Okay okay guysss I think we have a way to confirm TF
Wed 17:07

Sooner or later
Ahri Wed 17:07

2 out of 3 stalkers claimed purged, and 1 afk
Twistedfate Wed 17:07

Can it be fucking sooner, please
Vi Wed 17:07

only 1 claimed purged
Twistedfate Wed 17:08

I'm getting real tired of this shit
Ahri Wed 17:08

oh yeah 1 is GD
Wed 17:08

then 1 purged, 1 dead, 1 afk
Wed 17:08

3 stalkers
Vi Wed 17:08

and 1 is being super sketchy (Corki)
Wed 17:09

TF come on, I gave you the beans
Ahri Wed 17:09

yeah, to me Corki is the first in sus list among stalkers
Vi Wed 17:09

Cheer up :D
Twistedfate Wed 17:09

If stalkers had been on any GD claims N2, we'd have no problems
Sona Wed 17:09

Lux on you tonight?
Wed 17:10

Or Corki
Wed 17:10

Or both
Ahri Wed 17:10

how do you guys think about Kass vs Corki? who is evil, or both?
Wed 17:10

if both then who's the remaining stalker?
Vi Wed 17:10

Yeah Lux comes pretty late, so I think we should believe that Lux will not get smited
Twistedfate Wed 17:10

Hard to be cheery when you keep getting shit on by a masons who are supposed to be helpful
Sona Wed 17:11

Twisted, just don't care about my opinion
Twistedfate Wed 17:11

Kass could be puppet, and corki alch
Sona Wed 17:11

I think pretty muc everyone else thinks that you're lit
Vi Wed 17:11

Yeah, Sona was joking about you being evil
Twistedfate Wed 17:11

playing against each other for theater
Vi Wed 17:11

It's because you wanted Jhin to die
Wed 17:11

:D
Twistedfate Wed 17:11

Jhin is a pice of garbage to me right now
Ahri Wed 17:12

c'mon everyone can only judge from their own knowledge, something you may be sure but others does not necessarily see the same
Sona Wed 17:12

You know what? It's even possible that both Twisted and Veigar are evil
Vi Wed 17:12

Okay leave him aside
Twistedfate Wed 17:12

Whatever, game stuff is more important
Vi Wed 17:12

We still have 3 revivers
Sona Wed 17:13

3 reviver claim, one claims to have used his powers
Ahri Wed 17:13

i wish i had some more bullets to shoot down more suspects
Sona Wed 17:14

Don't we all?
Vi Wed 17:14

Okay so here's my plan
Wed 17:14

Hope it work
Wed 17:15

Zilean will revive Poppy, while TF will check Poppy
Ahri Wed 17:15

and if poppy is evil we will waste one more day to lynch him?
Wed 17:16

not yet counting the possiblity that TF is not lit
Vi Wed 17:16

Literally no one in the GY is a good target to revive, we need a way to clear the Reviver
Twistedfate Wed 17:16

What do you want me to do?
Wed 17:17

Die, check, revive me?
Wed 17:17

Because I'm the only GD
Wed 17:17

What do you want me to do?
Vi Wed 17:17

Yes you're the only GD left
Wed 17:17

We really need info
Twistedfate Wed 17:17

So what can I do to get this stupid evil shit off my back?
Wed 17:17

I'm seriously tired of it
Wed 17:18

TELL ME WHAT TO DO
Vi Wed 17:18

Check Poppy I think
Wed 17:18

Zilean should revive Poppy
Twistedfate Wed 17:18

And that makes me lit how, in your eyes?
Wed 17:19

I'll do it, fine, but if people are still talking about how I may not be lit tomorrow, I'm probably going to let the smite get me
Sona Wed 17:19

How did Veigar die?
Wed 17:19

@Tf
Twistedfate Wed 17:19

Sona, did you read back at all today?
Vi Wed 17:19

wait
Wed 17:20

TF,, you said that Veigar was evil right
Twistedfate Wed 17:20

Has to be
Vi Wed 17:20

You should check Veigar, while Reviver do nothing
Twistedfate Wed 17:20

And I said they had to be coven, then
Vi Wed 17:20

If he shifted out you would know the role
Wed 17:21

Because it's not Shapeshifter, so role is still there, not undetermined
Twistedfate Wed 17:21

You mean swapped?
Vi Wed 17:21

Yes
Twistedfate Wed 17:21

Yeah
Wed 17:21

Fine
Vi Wed 17:21

REVIVER, DO NOTHING
Wed 17:21

TF CHECK VEIGAR
Wed 17:22

LUX...DON'T GET SMITED AND STALK VARUS
Ahri Wed 17:22

Vi, how can checking veigar help make it clear?
Sona Wed 17:22

Is Maokai confirmed seer?
Twistedfate Wed 17:22

What?
Sona Wed 17:22

... if Graves is not, of course
Vi Wed 17:22

Corki, on Varus too
Twistedfate Wed 17:22

Nobody is confirmed seer right now
Vi Wed 17:23

Yeah.
Twistedfate Wed 17:23

Sona, really, have you read today?
Sona Wed 17:23

Yes
Twistedfate Wed 17:23

Not being mean, but there's a lot of stuff there that might answer some of your questions
Vi Wed 17:23

Checking Veigar would let us know if Djinn is alive(if comes up as something else) or not(if comes up as Alchemist)
Ahri Wed 17:24

Vi, Varus claimed prot, stalking him and announce the result might make the target vulnerable if Varus is lit
Vi Wed 17:24

I tend to believe TF
Twistedfate Wed 17:24

I still think Veig may have been PM
Ahri Wed 17:24

@Vi then it's not for TF to prove himself but you're placing trust already
Twistedfate Wed 17:24

I think corki is alch
Wed 17:25

I think there's no way to actually confirm me now
Wed 17:25

Like, *really* confirm me
Lux Wed 17:25

Damn, I missed a lot, right?
Sona Wed 17:25

Mainly this:
Vi Wed 17:25

Luxxx
Sona Wed 17:25

You owe us stalker checks
Lux Wed 17:25

I left my phone on the bus
Ahri Wed 17:25

Lux, what's your results?
Twistedfate Wed 17:25

So each of you needs to decide, I guess, if you think I'm worth the risk
Sona Wed 17:25

Welcome back
Ahri Wed 17:26

your results first, read back later
Lux Wed 17:26

ok
Wed 17:26

Last night Poppy visited Veigar
Twistedfate Wed 17:26

If I'm not worth the risk, vote me today
Vi Wed 17:26

Go Lux, night 2 and night 3 checks
Twistedfate Wed 17:26

WHAT?
Ahri Wed 17:27

hmm
Lux Wed 17:27

I can not read back by that stupid phone
Twistedfate Wed 17:27

You didn't write them down?
Sona Wed 17:27

You don't remember them?
Twistedfate Wed 17:27

*sigh*
Lux Wed 17:27

what am i supposed to know?
Wed 17:27

No
Twistedfate Wed 17:28

Who did you stalk n1 ans n2, and what did they do?
Wed 17:28

You should remember who you stalked
Ahri Wed 17:28

pls be a bit patient, scroll up to see your n2 result and tell us
Lux Wed 17:28

I already said last night Poppy visited Veigar
Vi Wed 17:28

http://werewolv.es/game/Index/ext-175?day=2
Wed 17:28

this may help?
Lux Wed 17:28

I missed N2
Vi Wed 17:28

Damn
Twistedfate Wed 17:28

Good god
Ahri Wed 17:28

omg
Sona Wed 17:28

baad bad
Lux Wed 17:28

I planned to get back later to check, but I lost my phone on the bus
Vi Wed 17:29

Anyway, still sad to hear it from you
Lux Wed 17:29

I'm using my friend's phone
Wed 17:29

Youve got my N1, right?
Ahri Wed 17:29

sorry for you
Vi Wed 17:30

Can't remember
Ahri Wed 17:30

can you restate your n1 result?
Vi Wed 17:30

Can you tell me again @Lux
Lux Wed 17:30

Thanks Ahri <3
Wed 17:30

Maokai didnt visit anyone
Sona Wed 17:30

wait wut, really?
Vi Wed 17:30

I thought it was from Kassadin...
Ahri Wed 17:31

hmm did both Kass and Corki also claimed visiting maokai n1?
Lux Wed 17:31

Oh sorry
Wed 17:31

messed up with the name
Wed 17:31

Warwick didn't visit anyone
Sona Wed 17:31

Lux Mon 18:11 Warwick stayed home
Lux Wed 17:31

I remember to check the first one
Ahri Wed 17:31

ah ok, that was the reason i shot warwick
Moderator Wed 17:32

Sona votes to lynch Lux
Lux Wed 17:32

on the list, but now list is not the list anymore
Sona Wed 17:32

But Maokai?
Lux Wed 17:33

What, Sona?
Wed 17:33

I need a vote
Vi Wed 17:33

vote Kass
Lux Wed 17:33

Should I vote Kassadin? Who is he?
Moderator Wed 17:34

Lux votes to lynch Kassadin
Twistedfate Wed 17:34

I really don't think we should lynch kass, guys
Wed 17:34

Or anyone who hasn't talked today
Vi Wed 17:34

Wait, why
Twistedfate Wed 17:34

If puppets die, we'll know PM is dead for sure
Lux Wed 17:34

Ok I have to give my friend's phone back.
Wed 17:34

Who should I stalk today?
Twistedfate Wed 17:34

If we lynch a puppet, we won't know
Wed 17:34

for sure
Lux Wed 17:34

I cant think since I cant read
Vi Wed 17:35

You should stalk TF
Wed 17:35

TwistedFate
Twistedfate Wed 17:35

ANYONE PLEASE STALK ME
Lux Wed 17:35

I know
Twistedfate Wed 17:35

That's me
Lux Wed 17:35

ok
Vi Wed 17:35

With a fancy hat
Twistedfate Wed 17:35

Howdy
Wed 17:35

Not a beak
Vi Wed 17:36

Totally not a beak
Ahri Wed 17:36

I'm suspecting of corki the most, kass is absent today but not only kass, so i would like to wait a bit to confirm him
Sona Wed 17:36

Who should we lynch?
Twistedfate Wed 17:36

I could lynch Corki happily
Sona Wed 17:36

@Twistedfate
Twistedfate Wed 17:36

I', pretty sure he's coven
Wed 17:36

I'm*
Ahri Wed 17:37

@Lux if you're not sure you can place an asv on someone else
Vi Wed 17:37

Kass has a high chance to be Ezreal right now, but if he talks and still sound like himself, then Corki is on the trial
Sona Wed 17:37

^^
Twistedfate Wed 17:37

I understand that, too
Sona Wed 17:37

I'd honestly put Graves over Corki on trial
Vi Wed 17:38

Yeah, Graves is one other option
Wed 17:38

But if Graves is evil then Brand is too
Twistedfate Wed 17:38

Yeah, Graves might be good, I can see the merit of giving him one night
Ahri Wed 17:38

not really, graves could be swapped at GY
Twistedfate Wed 17:38

Right
Wed 17:39

Brand isn't really tied to graves anymore
Sona Wed 17:39

But we haven't seen swaps ...
Twistedfate Wed 17:39

You wouldn't see swaps in the GY, Sona
Ahri Wed 17:40

ok guys i guess I'm out now, need to rest soon for traveling tmr
Twistedfate Wed 17:40

All right, Ahri, rest well
Sona Wed 17:40

good night
Vi Wed 17:40

Remember to talk in the Mason Ahri! I don't want to lynch you huney
Twistedfate Wed 17:41

Djinn can only swap GY to fuck with us if they choose
Wed 17:41

Also, have the masons used all of their recruits?
Vi Wed 17:41

Yeah :<
Twistedfate Wed 17:41

Ah
Wed 17:42

I find it interesting that nobody tried to recruit any of the GDs for confirmation
Vi Wed 17:42

We only have 4, and we wasted one
Twistedfate Wed 17:42

Bummer
Vi Wed 17:43

Ori was a yolo so that's 2
Wed 17:43

We need to keep Sona with us so that's 3
Twistedfate Wed 17:43

Well, it just didn't work out to be as helpful, I guess
Wed 17:43

No big deal, it just could have relieved some of the game stess
Vi Wed 17:43

At least we got the militias thing sorted out
Twistedfate Wed 17:43

Yeah
Vi Wed 17:45

Also, we did not take Varus into account yet
Wed 17:45

If he's telling the truth, then Poppy was killed by fam militia or Witch potion
Twistedfate Wed 17:45

Just letting everyone know, i have an appointment today, so I have to leave about 1.5 hours before nightfall
Vi Wed 17:45

Not a normal vamp kill
Twistedfate Wed 17:46

Lux saw poppy visit Veig, which is concerning in that respect
Wed 17:46

Poppy could have been VM
Vi Wed 17:46

Poppy still can be stalker who wanted to clear Veigar
Sona Wed 17:46

no
Twistedfate Wed 17:46

Wait, could she?
Wed 17:46

Yeah
Sona Wed 17:46

Vamps can't die at night
Twistedfate Wed 17:46

Right
Wed 17:46

That's why I rethought it
Wed 17:47

So she couldn't be a killing role, right?
Vi Wed 17:47

The vamp kill was on Veigar
Twistedfate Wed 17:47

Nevermind
Wed 17:47

Right
Vi Wed 17:47

Someone wanted the GD(assuming legit) to die
Sona Wed 17:47

Why would Vamp kill Veigar?
Vi Wed 17:47

I think it must be someone came back from the dead
Twistedfate Wed 17:48

Either they believed Veig was lit, or they wanted to make me look worse
Sona Wed 17:48

Both don't really make sense, given the options
Twistedfate Wed 17:48

Why?
Vi Wed 17:48

Vamp did not know how's the coven, so did village, so he might take a bet (No one knows if TF and Jhin were legit or not back then)
Twistedfate Wed 17:49

https://media.giphy.com/media/SasDDqOSRclNu/giphy.gifeig was coven
Wed 17:49

one handed typing is sloooow
Wed 17:49

what?
Wed 17:49

a0ccidentally pasted
Wed 17:49

.
Vi Wed 17:50

Mr.Bean nawwwww
Wed 17:50

I thought he was a good guy
Sona Wed 17:50

@Vi why resolve it for the village?
Twistedfate Wed 17:50

It doesn't resolve anything, Sona
Wed 17:51

In fact, it makes me lok worse because the other GD, died
Vi Wed 17:51

Yeah, vamp just wanted all GDs dead I think
Wed 17:51

If we don't kill the Vamp then TF is the next to die
Wed 17:51

Something like that
Twistedfate Wed 17:51

maybe
Wed 18:00

I do have to go soon, but I'll either check Liss it Veig as you guys decide.
Wed 18:00

I will read back before clicking, no worries
Wed 18:03

or anyone ill dig anyone else, too!
Wed 18:03

didn't mean to make it sound like I'd only check those 2
Wed 18:10

Did everyone leave together?
Teemo Wed 18:12

Should I revive anyone?
Twistedfate Wed 18:12

I think not
Wed 18:12

We have no idea of who is who in GY
Wed 18:12

Read back, though
Wed 18:12

I'm pretty sure the final thought was no
Teemo Wed 18:14

Okay I thought so. Just confirming
Brand Wed 18:17

Did I miss anything?
Twistedfate Wed 18:17

Some
Wed 18:17

*sigh* I'm still not convinced that Kass is Ez
Wed 18:17

That sucks
Wed 18:17

I think we're being played by someone
Wed 18:17

Just don't know who
Wed 18:18

There's a chance, though, so we have to take it
Wed 18:18

I hope it's right
Teemo Wed 18:19

He's just waaay quiet today like Ez was yesterday
Twistedfate Wed 18:19

No, I know
Wed 18:19

Like I said, it has to be done
Wed 18:19

I just really hope my doubts are unfounded
Teemo Wed 18:19

Kinda just convincing myself as well
Moderator Wed 18:19

Teemo votes to lynch Kassadin
Twistedfate Wed 18:20

Why is Sona voting Lux?
Wed 18:20

I think I missed that
Brand Wed 18:20

'cause Lux hasn't spoken maybe?
Twistedfate Wed 18:20

Lux did speak
Brand Wed 18:20

That seems to be a popular reason these days
Wed 18:20

Oh, what
Twistedfate Wed 18:20

And sona was here at the time
Teemo Wed 18:20

She didn't say but from what i read, Sona voted her right after Lux messed up her n1 check
Brand Wed 18:21

Ignore me, probably should read back before being a smartass
Twistedfate Wed 18:21

Graves did the same thing, so why not vote him?
Wed 18:21

Sona is like. . . I have no idea what she's doing 99% of the time
Wed 18:21

And people seem to just follow her ideas
Wed 18:22

Even if she's lit doesn't make her ideas good
Teemo Wed 18:22

It seems they were voting grave at first but re-thought everything about kass
Twistedfate Wed 18:22

Ugh, sorry
Wed 18:22

She's just frustrating to me
Teemo Wed 18:23

Yea a kinda agree
Wed 18:23

Just gotta stay calm.
Brand Wed 18:23

I just read back, I don't think Lux's mistake is as bad as Graves', tbh
Twistedfate Wed 18:23

Agreed, Brand
Brand Wed 18:24

I mix names up, especially if I'm not familiar with the theme
Teemo Wed 18:24

^^
Twistedfate Wed 18:24

And Teemo, this game has me so uppity
Teemo Wed 18:24

She's the only one voting lux
Brand Wed 18:24

I did it earlier, isn't that right, Windrider
Teemo Wed 18:24

I can tell. I feel for you lol
Brand Wed 18:24

*Twisted
Twistedfate Wed 18:24

Yeah, it just seems weird that she didn't vote Kass, since she was a large part of the conversation
Wed 18:24

Haha
Wed 18:24

*rides the wond
Wed 18:25

wind, too
Wed 18:25

Christ
Wed 18:25

Teemo, thoughts on Varus?
Teemo Wed 18:25

��
Brand Wed 18:25

Maybe you need a lie down too, Twisted
Twistedfate Wed 18:25

I wish!
Wed 18:25

I have 2 appointments today, and i have to go to the pharmacy
Teemo Wed 18:26

Varus claimed prot?
Twistedfate Wed 18:26

Also, thoughts on Corki?
Wed 18:26

Yes
Wed 18:27

But apparently Sona tried to rob Vik and got denied
Teemo Wed 18:28

Corki seems a liiiittle sketch to me. Varus...im not sure...
Wed 18:28

What Roles CANT be robbed?
Twistedfate Wed 18:29

I'm not 100% on that
Wed 18:29

Some coven roles, but also vamp?
Brand Wed 18:29

She needs to get better at last hitting
Twistedfate Wed 18:30

the Villager, the Lycan, the Insomniac, the Sleepwalker; the Puppet Master, the Djinn, the Succubus; the Vampire, the Familiar
Wed 18:30

cannot be robbed
Wed 18:30

XD Brand
Brand Wed 18:31

I know my MOBA tend \m/
Wed 18:31

Terms
Teemo Wed 18:32

So they're basically saying Vik was an evil
Twistedfate Wed 18:33

Yes
Teemo Wed 18:33

Maybe Varus is lit. I don't see why a fake prot would say they protected poppy the same night she died
Twistedfate Wed 18:34

I don't understand prot in this game at all, frankly
Teemo Wed 18:34

Unless he is evil and was concerned someone stalked him and saw the visit
Twistedfate Wed 18:35

Yeah, who knows
Wed 18:35

Nothing about this game is sensible, so there's no telling right now
Wed 18:35

Maybe both are evil
Wed 18:36

Magically evil
Wed 18:36

Erryone is evil
Teemo Wed 18:36

Yea I'm lost. Everyone is evil at this point lol
Twistedfate Wed 18:36

Are you evil, Teemo?
Wed 18:36

Don't say no or you're evil!
Wed 18:36

Ack, I have to leave
Teemo Wed 18:36

Only when i get angry
Twistedfate Wed 18:37

Haha
Teemo Wed 18:37

Ojeyy
Wed 18:37

Okay
Twistedfate Wed 18:37

If I'm alive tomorrow, I'll give my dig and maybe be considered lit
Wed 18:37

bye bye
Teemo Wed 18:37

Cya
Wed 18:53

Yea, Kass's silence is TOO weird. If he saw he was getting lynched in an hr he'd deff would be having a conniption right now
Moderator Wed 19:34

Sona votes to lynch Kassadin
Sona Wed 19:34

So the plans for the night are:
Wed 19:35

REVIVERS: do not revive
Wed 19:36

STALKERS: stalk Varus
Wed 19:37

TF: check Veigar
Teemo Wed 19:53

Why would he dig veigar instead of the lynch (kass)
Lynched Wed 20:00

Kassadin was lynched by the village
Poppy Thu 08:01

Ah, cheers
Thu 08:01

Yesterday I was singing along with you Vi on the Coldplay song, before I realised I was the one who was killed
Thu 08:01

ugh
Thu 08:01

I think I stalked my killer yesterday
Thu 08:02

Veigar visited me and Graves last night
Thu 08:02

so it's pretty much confirmed to me that he was a Witch
Thu 08:02

I feel Coven is pretty deep in this game by now, probably we have 1 VM left who did a recruit?
Moderator Thu 08:02

Poppy votes to lynch Graves
Twistedfate Thu 08:03

Interesting
Corki Thu 08:03

FUCk
Twistedfate Thu 08:03

Veigar showed as puppet
Poppy Thu 08:03

oh, when I say Veigar visited me and Graves last night
Thu 08:03

I meant the night before, ofc
Corki Thu 08:03

I'm vanilla now
Poppy Thu 08:03

(couldn't do jack shit last night)
Thu 08:03

And the people were silent like the... dead, I suppose
Thu 08:04

so no help there
Thu 08:04

in making sense of this mayhem
Twistedfate Thu 08:04

If veig visited you, then I'm proven lit, so that's at least something
Poppy Thu 08:05

indeed
Thu 08:05

(barring for recruits in the meantime, of course)
Twistedfate Thu 08:05

I'm off to bed, but wanted to check in to see if I was dead yet
Poppy Thu 08:06

alright, good night
Thu 08:07

If Veigar showed up as puppet the Coven probably were aware of the risk Veigar was running, and swapped them with a Puppet. So actually, Veigar wasn't killed the night I was killed as well, but the puppet was that was Djinn-swapped with Veigar that nighjt
Twistedfate Thu 08:07

Corki, I do not believe you at all. This is far too convenient.
Poppy Thu 08:07

Anyone knows who was the intended target? Please feel free to speak up ^^
Moderator Thu 08:07

Twistedfate votes to lynch Corki
Corki Thu 08:07

I tried to stalk Varus last9
Thu 08:07

as Sona said
Thu 08:08

and now I've been purge
Thu 08:08

purged
Poppy Thu 08:08

so you don't have your check anymore, right?
Corki Thu 08:08

no
Poppy Thu 08:08

That's strange
Corki Thu 08:08

vanilla from now on
Twistedfate Thu 08:08

you should have gotten a result
Poppy Thu 08:08

I believe someone else claimed they did have their last check still
Thu 08:08

Kassadin, I believe it was
Twistedfate Thu 08:08

what was Varus?
Poppy Thu 08:09

OK, lynch/interrogation lsit: Corki + Graves
Corki Thu 08:09

I dont know
Poppy Thu 08:09

list*
Twistedfate Thu 08:09

pretty sure purge is after check
Poppy Thu 08:09

Same
Corki Thu 08:09

all I get in the morning is I'm vanilla
Thu 08:09

also no result of stalking
Poppy Thu 08:09

Mmz, I know what might be the issue here
Corki Thu 08:10

this is the 1st time I've been purged
Poppy Thu 08:10

If you go back in the previous night
Thu 08:10

Do you see Vampires/Coven chat by any chance?
Thu 08:10

This may explain this
Thu 08:10

;)
Twistedfate Thu 08:10

haha
Corki Thu 08:10

nope :D
Thu 08:10

should I ask mod
Thu 08:10

xD
Twistedfate Thu 08:10

no
Corki Thu 08:10

btw, up to you guys, seems I'm useless now
Twistedfate Thu 08:10

mmmhmm
Corki Thu 08:11

if you think i'm the good lynch
Twistedfate Thu 08:11

useless, like kass was "useless"
Corki Thu 08:11

then go for it, I just have no strength to fight back
Thu 08:11

hahaa......as I said
Twistedfate Thu 08:11

up to my eyeballs in bs here
Thu 08:11

okay, really going to bed
Poppy Thu 08:11

yes, you should rest
Corki Thu 08:12

I dont want to give up
Twistedfate Thu 08:12

corki deserves a razzy for that performance
Poppy Thu 08:12

thanks for checking in, ttyl ;)
Corki Thu 08:12

xD
Moderator Thu 08:14

Corki votes to lynch Graves
Poppy Thu 08:15

Corki, so talk to me
Thu 08:15

Who do you trust, and who do you distrust?
Thu 08:18

Another burning question on my mind: which kind-spirited person brought me back from the Graveyard?
Thu 08:18

Very good move, If I can say so! ;)
Corki Thu 08:18

I dont trust Lux
Thu 08:19

well, I'm still confusing about 3 stalker including you
Thu 08:19

Kass had all check seems fit mine
Thu 08:19

but the night he got purged, he knew i visited him
Thu 08:20

but last9, I got nothing
Poppy Thu 08:21

I've seen relatively little of Lux so far as well, so not sure what to make of her
Thu 08:21

Frankly, I think the conclusion from your statements is that you're previously lying - but let's move beyond that
Thu 08:21

Why was Kass lynched?
Corki Thu 08:22

no idea, i haven't join too much chat
Poppy Thu 08:22

but do you agree or disagree with the lynch?
Corki Thu 08:22

if I was there, I might say yes
Poppy Thu 08:23

But Kass produced checks before you did, he knew you were there
Thu 08:23

So his validity exceeds yours in every way
Corki Thu 08:23

becos I got nothing from purging, but he get it =.=
Poppy Thu 08:23

I don't see your line of reasoning here
Corki Thu 08:23

*got
Poppy Thu 08:23

Okay, that may have to do with which ability was activated first (though I highly doubt it)
Thu 08:24

still, how do you explain his knowledge about checks?
Thu 08:24

He would only know these things if you conspired, which per definition puts you both on the chopping block
Thu 08:26

Failure to give a satisfactory answer here will make it very clear to me that you are not a member of the village...
Moderator Thu 08:28

Poppy votes to lynch Corki
Poppy Thu 08:28

okay, moving on - if anyone wants to chat, I'm probably here
Corki Thu 08:35

alright
Thu 08:36

I just asked Mod
Thu 08:36

there's a mesage which was hidden
Thu 08:37

Varus visited ......last9
Thu 08:37

he claimed Prot isnt he?
Poppy Thu 08:37

He did
Corki Thu 08:38

I stalked Varus as Sona requested
Thu 08:38

so, I think Kass seems lit o.O
Poppy Thu 08:38

so did you get a result?
Corki Thu 08:38

ofc
Poppy Thu 08:38

It just wasn't there
Thu 08:38

alright
Corki Thu 08:39

mod just told me
Thu 08:39

xD
Poppy Thu 08:39

So VM either visited that person (as well) as kill/recruit, or they recruited another person
Moderator Thu 08:39

Poppy votes to lynch Graves
Poppy Thu 08:40

@Corki: I believe you now, although I don't agree with how this has been handled
Corki Thu 08:40

alright, thanks Poppy xD
Poppy Thu 08:40

(Moderator basically verified you now, at least in the way that you phrase it)
Corki Thu 08:41

lol, first time purging, really hard to handle
Poppy Thu 08:41

(Moderator, in my opinion, should give general statements rather than confirming specifics - I think mod didn't do it like this, so it's just the way that you phrase it probably)
Thu 08:41

Anyway, moving on
Thu 08:42

I think we may conclude now that Lux is not legit as well?
Corki Thu 08:43

I guess so, I need to read back her check
Varus Thu 08:47

welcome back, poppy, my guard on you wasn't successful
Thu 08:48

no stalkers have spilt my last visit, right?
Poppy Thu 08:48

Corki claimed he has stalked you, but didn't say whom you protected
Thu 08:48

And thanks
Thu 08:48

for welcoming me back
Thu 08:48

and, yes, the unsuccesful protection corresponds with the Witch kill profile
Varus Thu 08:49

since we let grave live a night, there's a chance he's swapped out with djinn by now
Poppy Thu 08:49

indeed
Varus Thu 08:49

maybe we should consider letting him talk?
Poppy Thu 08:49

So there might be better lynch targets to come, but for now he's best we got
Thu 08:50

Sure - with a gun to his head
Thu 08:50

Graves, you're being interrogated
Thu 08:50

=)
Varus Thu 08:50

I'll leave a pressure, then
Moderator Thu 08:50

Varus votes to lynch Graves
Varus Thu 08:50

I hope my last night visit was on point rather than vamp recruits
Poppy Thu 08:51

Same
Thu 09:20

Checking on Lux.... claimed Stalker D2, under pressure of votes, and produced the 'Warwick - no visit' result, which was unique and uncontested by Warwick. A remark here is that Warwick didn't speak before they got killed, so in a unlikely(?) scenario Lux is coven who used Warwick as Puppet sacrifice. Lux didn't even show up D3. D4 she shows up and does confirm me visiting Veigar, but states she missed her N2 check. Her reasoning for not showing up is a personal problem with her phone getting lost.
Thu 09:20

Lux is not very helpful to the village and this may be a cover for her being evil. Not sure, but I think she is a worthwhile lynch option for today
Moderator Thu 09:30

Poppy votes to lynch Lux
Poppy Thu 09:44

We're either pretty sure about lynching a Puppet, or may take out a very valuable target in Lux
Brand Thu 09:54

Okay, so I don't trust Poppy
Thu 09:54

Reasoning:
Thu 09:54

(1) The village pretty much unanimously agreed Kass was evil yesterday, but Poppy doesn't?
Thu 09:55

(2) I know I revived Graves - if Veigar did as well, I'm 99% sure we'd see him revived twice
Thu 09:56

(3) We have too many stalkers... She seems to trust both Kass and Corki, but they can't all be stalkers o.O
Thu 09:57

(4) We don't know her role because Twisted didn't check her and there's now no way to confirm her, as far as I can tell
Thu 09:58

I also don't trust Corki's "I didn't get a role but mod told me"
Thu 09:58

Sounds like a cop out that can't be confirmed without #meta involvement
Thu 09:59

Doubly convenient he stalked the protector so doesn't even need to reveal the result
Thu 10:00

Also, there's still the outstanding question of whether Viktor visited as Poppy claimed
Moderator Thu 10:00

Brand votes to lynch Poppy
Poppy Thu 10:31

Ah, there is an enemy, trying to discredit me. Very well.
Thu 10:32

@(1): I didn't follow yesterday's chat as closely as other days because I was dead, so if you can spell out the arguments why Kass is evil that would be nice. He seemed to be OK the days I was alive at least.
Thu 10:33

@(2): I'm not so sure about the double revive notification. And I'm very sure I saw Veigar visit Graves the day he left the.. grave. So even if you genuinely tried to revive him, the fact he was also revived by a Witch confirms that Graves is evil, and you probably as well.
Thu 10:34

(3) We can have 3 stalkers. I did address the question of maximum amount of stalkers, which means that out of Lux, Corki, and Kassadin, at least 2 were (initially) genuine stalkers. So yes, you're correct they can't all be stalkers, but you're wrong in that I was implying they all were.
Brand Thu 10:35

Poppy, we know Ez was evil because he claimed Militia and both real militia are masons: Ez was lynched but Twisted dug him as Familiar and there was no possibility he was Djinn swapped
Poppy Thu 10:35

@(4): You have little info about my role at this moment, but this is a common problem at the moment, we know very little about most people. My N1 check on Vi at least confirms I started as village. It's up to you to make a convincing case something has changed in the meantime
Brand Thu 10:35

If the VM dies (i.e. is lynched) he instantly revives in the first familiar's body
Poppy Thu 10:36

Now you're talking about Ez
Brand Thu 10:36

Kass went from super active to not active after Ez was lynched
Poppy Thu 10:36

Ah, like that
Thu 10:36

Yes, okay, that is a fair point. I didn't read yesterday close enough to see that.
Brand Thu 10:36

Therefore village as a group concluded it's likely Ez became Kasd
Thu 10:36

Kass*
Poppy Thu 10:36

That makes total sense
Thu 10:37

So Kass was initially Stalker, probably, the purge claim was actually a recruit in disguise, and Ez became Kassadin.
Thu 10:37

That is my take on it now, at least
Brand Thu 10:37

There was more evidence (no proof, of course) but that's not really relevant imho
Thu 10:37

You can read back if you want to see it
Poppy Thu 10:37

Okay, you've convinced me on point (1)
Brand Thu 10:37

Yes, exactly
Poppy Thu 10:37

Now proceed with the other points, perhaps
Brand Thu 10:38

Okay, so let's skip (2) for now because maybe it's a bit #meta
Thu 10:38

There are only two stalkers, so no way you, Corki and Kass are all telling the truth
Thu 10:38

(That's point (3))
Poppy Thu 10:39

There are: 1 Seer, 1 Protector, 2 Gravediggers, 1 Graverobber, 2 Revivers, 3 Stalkers, 2 Militia, 2 MasonLeaders, 1 Djinn, 3 Alchemists, 1 Puppetmaster and 2 VampireMasters.
Thu 10:39

I read '3 stalkers'
Brand Thu 10:39

Oh fuck
Poppy Thu 10:39

Do you as well?
Brand Thu 10:39

Sorry!
Poppy Thu 10:39

np
Brand Thu 10:39

Yes okay, I conceed point (3), that's my mistake
Thu 10:39

I thought it was two of each
Poppy Thu 10:40

Why did you revive Graves, by the way?
Brand Thu 10:40

He was dug as seer
Poppy Thu 10:40

by whom, again?
Thu 10:40

Jhin and TF?
Brand Thu 10:40

There was always a risk of Djinn swaps, but that risk will never go away unless we can prove Djinn is dead
Thu 10:41

Yeah, both
Poppy Thu 10:41

okay
Thu 10:41

Well, I have to go for a few hours
Thu 10:41

We cleared up some stuff between us, at least
Brand Thu 10:42

So for Graves to be not seer, he'd have needed to have been swapped N2, before the village (and coven) found out he was seer
Thu 10:42

Risk was low, imho
Poppy Thu 10:42

N2 GY swap is not strange to do, right?
Brand Thu 10:42

(if he was swapped N3, seer is still revived just in the new body so no risk there)
Thu 10:43

And after Graves's less than convincing re-entrance I'm willing to accept that it's possible
Thu 10:44

But I considered it worth the risk
Poppy Thu 10:45

anyway, really off now
Brand Thu 10:46

*goes back to work too*
Vi Thu 10:55

I'm pretty worried that Lucian didn't talk in the mason chat for 2 nights straight now
Thu 10:58

Ahri made an excuse of travelling and now no where to be found
Thu 10:58

/o\
Brand Thu 11:02

Uh oh
Thu 11:03

Vi, details please
Thu 11:04

Did Lucian give any indication of having been able to access the night conversation despite not speaking?
Thu 11:04

Like, did you discuss safe words and he got his right?
Lucian Thu 11:04

Banana tree exist in Vietnam ._.
Thu 11:05

That prove me lit
Brand Thu 11:05

Vi?
Vi Thu 11:05

Yeah...
Lucian Thu 11:05

I am trust creeply watching
Thu 11:05

dont mind me
Vi Thu 11:05

I don't understand how youdidn't talk in the mason but still got it right
Thu 11:06

Right
Lucian Thu 11:06

lol i cant go back and check :P
Thu 11:06

can*
Thu 11:06

Still *CLASSES*
Vi Thu 11:07

What's my mason code
Lucian Thu 11:07

Robocop :>
Vi Thu 11:07

Okay nice
Zilean Thu 11:08

Hello
Thu 11:08

Can I ask?
Vi Thu 11:08

Zilean, how are you doing
Zilean Thu 11:08

When did you guys talk about the code?
Vi Thu 11:08

Yes you can
Brand Thu 11:08

I had this crazy idea yesterday that maybe both MLs got recruited the same night by different vamps and then both had to go on pretending everything was fine so that both sides didn't get lynched
Thu 11:08

Crazy right?
Thu 11:08

;>
Vi Thu 11:08

We talked about it at night
Zilean Thu 11:08

I mean, which night?
Orianna Thu 11:08

Ducksling :v
Vi Thu 11:09

We have different mason codes for each nights
Brand Thu 11:09

Zi, I assume (I hope) they change it every night
Orianna Thu 11:09

Or duckling?
Thu 11:09

Meh... who care
Brand Thu 11:09

A slingshot that fires Ducks, Ori?
Vi Thu 11:10

I thought yours was direwolf @Ori
Brand Thu 11:10

Is that what you used to kill Karth
Orianna Thu 11:10

I think it means little ducks
Thu 11:10

You guys forgot my code :v
Thu 11:11

I will asv because i forgot yesterday
Moderator Thu 11:11

Lucian votes to lynch Brand
Vi Thu 11:12

Oops
Lucian Thu 11:12

so... i read the converstation and still dont know why we are lynching Graves (or pressure)
Brand Thu 11:12

Uh
Lucian Thu 11:12

oh yeh... you forgot about Ori :D
Brand Thu 11:13

Orianna [Thu 11:10] I think it means little ducks [Thu 11:10] You guys forgot my code :v [Thu 11:11] I will asv because i forgot yesterday <Moderator> Lucian votes to put Brand on trial
Thu 11:14

Puppets?? XD
Thu 11:15

(I'm joking... Kinda)
Vi Thu 11:16

Mistaken with Sona's :v
Brand Thu 11:16

X_x
Vi Thu 11:16

Guess who's the PM :P
Brand Thu 11:16

Is it you, Vi??
Thu 11:16

It's me
Thu 11:16

Actually, wait
Thu 11:16

Oh shit
Vi Thu 11:16

*ding ding*
Brand Thu 11:17

Noooooooo
Vi Thu 11:17

My puppets, now talk
Brand Thu 11:17

I'm not a puppet
Thu 11:17

I'm a real boy
Lucian Thu 11:17

you are pinociho?
Moderator Thu 11:18

Orianna votes to lynch Jhin
Orianna Thu 11:18

Lol that was wierd
Thu 11:18

My phone slipped out of my hand and fell down the stairs...
Moderator Thu 11:19

Vi votes to lynch Corki
Moderator Thu 11:19

Zilean votes to lynch Graves
Lucian Thu 11:19

why Corki PM?
Vi Thu 11:22

I think we have no VM left so he should tell us his check on Varua
Ahri Thu 11:28

Vi, i will be there tonight, on the way now
Moderator Thu 11:28

Ahri votes to lynch Corki
Brand Thu 11:32

Is it possible there are no VMs left?
Poppy Thu 12:05

Checking in quickly: Masons, please confirm that the codes are determined per night, so people can't rely on old info...
Thu 12:08

Also: I see signs of Coven and Vamp recruits (absent Masons). The question is which faction to reduce in strength today. Coven will pressure for lynching VM/Fam and vice versa,.probably
Thu 12:09

@Lucian: Graves was revived by then-Veigar, who had to be witch. So probably they are Coven, perhaps Puppet now.
Graves Thu 12:42

hi
Vi Thu 12:43

Greaves, your result?
Graves Thu 12:43

i dont have long today so i will tell you what i know i checked twistedfate and he is vampire familiar also i am a villager now
Moderator Thu 12:45

Graves votes to lynch Twistedfate
Lucian Thu 12:45

Well...
Thu 12:45

atleast we know that Vi, Luician and Ori is lit
Thu 12:46

3 comfirmed 3
Graves Thu 12:47

yes unless you are all vampire familiars that seems to be true we need to work out teh rest and i think you are masons
Lucian Thu 12:48

but...
Thu 12:49

yesterday Ahiri and Sona comfirmed too
Thu 12:49

so...
Graves Thu 12:49

did you see ahri or sona in chat last night
Lucian Thu 12:49

there can only be best 2 recuited
Graves Thu 12:50

yes though you wont know until tonight if any were recruited correct because i think it happens at end of night
Lucian Thu 12:50

Ahiri and Sona was not active yesterday
Graves Thu 12:50

no dead does mean probably recruit or vamps are dead
Thu 12:50

but since twistedfate is a familiar they cant be
Thu 12:51

so they must recruit last night all masons need to talk tonight
Vi Thu 12:52

Ah uhm...
Thu 12:52

Suddenly everyone is purged
Graves Thu 12:53

i read that corki said it too how many does that make i remember kass purged too right that would be 3
Thu 12:54

maybe coven need other roles so they use now instead of not use or maybe one of us lies
Thu 12:55

i dont have antyhing to say about poppy claim either as i cant confirm who revived me or why
Lucian Thu 12:56

can you lie?
Graves Thu 12:56

if i had known yesterday i would have checked one of them but since nobody else said they revive me i assumed brand did it
Vi Thu 12:56

Can you vote Corki
Thu 12:58

TF did not give us his check too, hmmm
Graves Thu 12:58

i can but i do not know if i can be back to change it tonight and i know twistedfate is bad
Vi Thu 12:58

/o\
Graves Thu 12:59

i do doubt corki too though reading the day so far so i will change it and do my best to come back in case it needs moved
Moderator Thu 12:59

Graves votes to lynch Corki
Vi Thu 12:59

Okay thank you Graves
Graves Thu 13:01

we have many quiet players last few days who were talking before have any said why they are quiet i did not see reasons when i was reading
Thu 13:02

it may be early for some i think but others seem quiet than before
Thu 13:06

i have to go to work now but i will try to take my break earlier so i do not miss end of day
Moderator Thu 13:07

Lucian votes to lynch Corki
Lucian Thu 13:08

2 hours later to judge the change or keep
Moderator Thu 13:21

Zilean votes to lynch Corki
Poppy Thu 14:49

@Graves: so you got purged last night?
Teemo Thu 14:56

Idk who to vote for
Thu 14:57

If twisted is fam, there's still a vm out there.. gotta find out who
Thu 14:57

Do we think is corki?
Brand Thu 15:23

Um, is it just me or was Twisted on kinda early today?
Thu 15:24

I'd rather not revisit the unfortunate events of t'other day, but Twisted's activity seems different today?
Thu 15:25

(actually, scratch all that - he said he was going to bed so I guess up late rather than up early?)
Thu 15:29

Poppy, any grave info for us, btw?
Varus Thu 15:38

so I am just checking back
Thu 15:38

both poppy and grave could be djinn swapped, if we truly believe that no witches would revive a seer, they conflict each other right now and one must be lying
Thu 15:38

though it seems like everyone's agreed upon lynching corki today
Moderator Thu 15:39

Varus votes to lynch Corki
Poppy Thu 15:42

@Brand: I think Twisted's been online at the start of the day before
Thu 15:42

Also, I have no info from the GY - all were silent. Only Ez spoke, who claimed they were innocent..
Thu 15:43

@Varus: I agree that Graves and I are in contradiction, one of us is definitely evil...
Varus Thu 15:47

so either poppy got swapped out exactly on the night he was revived or grave was either swapped in on the night he was revived or out the night after he was revived
Thu 15:48

because I don't think coven pretending to be either stalker or seer would end well
Thu 15:48

nor coven reviving the actual lit seer
Thu 15:49

I think it's great chance that the djinn is very well alive and nothing is still trustable
Thu 15:49

but we got no swap claims so far, so the alive swaps must've been always between evils
Thu 15:51

and we don't even have that many stalkers left to catch any name-changing
Thu 15:52

we'll need to be careful
Thu 15:52

I may or may not come back again later, running errand
Twistedfate Thu 15:58

Well, that makes things easy.
Thu 15:59

Graves is definitely swapped coven, which is less helpful than other possible info
Thu 16:00

Who has revived Poppy?
Poppy Thu 16:04

That is a good question indeed, and no one has spoken up so far
Sona Thu 16:05

#Coven confirmed
Thu 16:05

Hi guys
Poppy Thu 16:05

It's definitely not Brand, could be Teemo or Zilean - they did speak already, and didn't mention it
Thu 16:05

Hi Sona
Thu 16:06

Funny you say that - how would I be coven exactly? I'd have to be someone other than the original Poppy, surely
Twistedfate Thu 16:07

Uh oh. . . "surely"
Corki Thu 16:07

erh
Thu 16:07

so why im on the lynch
Sona Thu 16:08

Why are we lynching Corki?
Corki Thu 16:08

:(
Poppy Thu 16:08

@TF: I meant to emphasize that there is no other valid explanation for me being coven
Sona Thu 16:08

Corki seems pretty villagey to me
Twistedfate Thu 16:08

Because Corki has been sus af all game
Corki Thu 16:08

Varus
Twistedfate Thu 16:08

I don't buy purged, too convenient
Corki Thu 16:08

and then i've been purged
Thu 16:09

i stalked you last night
Twistedfate Thu 16:09

however, Graves is 100% coven
Corki Thu 16:09

it's not about convenience
Thu 16:09

if Grave confirm 100% coven
Thu 16:09

we'd better lynch h
Sona Thu 16:09

Who did you stalk, Corki?
Poppy Thu 16:09

Although I agree that 'being purged' is an excuse for vamp/fams and coven alike in this game, I'm not sure we can use it as strong argument against Corki
Corki Thu 16:09

Varus, as you asked
Sona Thu 16:10

And your result was?
Corki Thu 16:10

we'd better lynch Grave
Thu 16:10

instead of me then
Twistedfate Thu 16:10

Sona, read back and it's there
Corki Thu 16:10

varus cisited twisted
Thu 16:11

i did get the result when i've been purged
Twistedfate Thu 16:11

He claimed he didn't get a result due to purge, then said he asked mod and the message was "hidden" and then gave a result
Thu 16:11

total bs
Corki Thu 16:11

have to asked mod, it was a bug
Twistedfate Thu 16:11

also convenient
Poppy Thu 16:11

I'm not sure one can/should lie about moderator messages, that's the thing
Corki Thu 16:12

that's exactly what happen
Sona Thu 16:12

He can't lie about Moderator interactions
Corki Thu 16:12

this is the first time i got purged
Poppy Thu 16:12

I think therefore, meta as it is, it's a good argument that Corki is indeed telling the truth
Moderator Thu 16:12

Poppy votes to lynch Graves
Sona Thu 16:12

And there're 7 votes on him?!
Poppy Thu 16:12

I definitely think Graves is the better lynch now, at least
Thu 16:13

Yeah, evils want to get rid of him, I guess
Corki Thu 16:13

btw, if we 100% confirm Grave is coven
Sona Thu 16:13

So Graves claims that Twisted is Fam-GD?
Corki Thu 16:13

why we let him al
Thu 16:13

ive
Thu 16:13

alive
Poppy Thu 16:13

Well, it's not 100% since neither TF or I are 100%, but I think our combined testimonies make it more worthwhile to consider than the case against Corki
Twistedfate Thu 16:14

why can't he lie?
Corki Thu 16:14

even im useless now but let me live much better for village
Twistedfate Thu 16:14

he didn't quote anything
Corki Thu 16:14

what are you Twist
Thu 16:14

seer?
Poppy Thu 16:14

Yeah, but 'talking to mod' is holy
Thu 16:14

in my book
Twistedfate Thu 16:14

mod didn't give any indication that it was a bug in game
Corki Thu 16:15

i feel the same thing
Twistedfate Thu 16:15

wow. . .
Corki Thu 16:15

however.... i dont think im a good lynch today
Twistedfate Thu 16:15

Then we need to ask @mod for a bug confirmation
Thu 16:15

that should be public knowledge
Orianna Thu 16:16

Sona
Sona Thu 16:16

I thought abt that
Corki Thu 16:16

lol, do whatever you want
Orianna Thu 16:16

Your code
Sona Thu 16:16

It would confirm him
Thu 16:16

Unnecessary
Orianna Thu 16:16

Please
Sona Thu 16:16

No deaths
Poppy Thu 16:16

Although, as I've also said before, I don't think moderator should necessarily confirm specifics, perhaps speak about Alch bugs in general?
Twistedfate Thu 16:16

Corki Thu 16:14 what are you Twist
Thu 16:16

Really?
Moderator Thu 16:16

Sona votes to lynch Graves
Orianna Thu 16:16

Sona what is your code?
Sona Thu 16:16

Also I've got to jump ..... /
Corki Thu 16:17

i didnt keep up on chat ok
Orianna Thu 16:17

Sona!
Corki Thu 16:17

i said it, but i think you dont mind repeat it
Thu 16:17

:x
Sona Thu 16:17

@Orianna wont read back now, see you at night
Twistedfate Thu 16:17

If there is a game error which might influence an outcome beyond player control, it should be made know to avoid unfair play
Orianna Thu 16:17

Damn
Twistedfate Thu 16:18

Corki, this has been a HUGE part of the game
Corki Thu 16:18

and one thing is, you might go to GY tonight, Twist
Orianna Thu 16:18

Sona changed side
Twistedfate Thu 16:18

you are ridiculous if you claim to have not kept up
Corki Thu 16:18

wat?
Orianna Thu 16:19

If she cant read back then she is evil
Thu 16:19

She dont have the code
Twistedfate Thu 16:19

My role has been a huge topic of conversation since D2
Moderator Thu 16:19

Orianna votes to lynch Sona
Twistedfate Thu 16:19

It's D5
Corki Thu 16:19

whatever, twist.... i told you what i got
Orianna Thu 16:19

Sona is more unlit
Corki Thu 16:19

your choice
Orianna Thu 16:19

Please vote her
Thu 16:20

Guys :<
Corki Thu 16:20

well.... so we have coven and a new familiar?
Orianna Thu 16:20

Vote Sona please when i ask her about the code she fleed
Thu 16:20

Lynch her :(
Thu 16:21

I guess she robbed a coven
Twistedfate Thu 16:21

or got recruited?
Moderator Thu 16:22

Poppy votes to lynch Sona
Moderator Thu 16:22

Lucian votes to lynch Sona
Poppy Thu 16:22

I think we put all eyes on Sona until she can confirm mason code
Lucian Thu 16:22

let pressure her until she say the code
Twistedfate Thu 16:22

No kill would mean she *has* to verify since it's recruitment
Moderator Thu 16:22

Twistedfate votes to lynch Sona
Lucian Thu 16:23

Twist please change vote
Thu 16:23

thx
Twistedfate Thu 16:23

uh. . .
Thu 16:23

on mobile, sorry
Lucian Thu 16:23

we need more
Twistedfate Thu 16:23

shower now, appointment in an hour
Thu 16:23

will talk as much as I can
Corki Thu 16:24

even if she robbed coven, she still on mason chat last9
Twistedfate Thu 16:24

we need to ignore coven and focus on fam
Corki Thu 16:24

so she might get the code untik tmr
Thu 16:24

??
Twistedfate Thu 16:24

it's recruit fam, not Rob coven
Poppy Thu 16:25

So that means she had to be recruited not last night, but the previous one, right?
Thu 16:25

Because last night's mason chat would be in her log?
Lucian Thu 16:26

IF ANYONE IS ONLINE PLEASE VOTE SONA TILL HER SAY YHE CODE
Brand Thu 16:26

Did Sona speak last night?
Thu 16:27

(in Mason chat)
Orianna Thu 16:27

No
Brand Thu 16:27

Uh oh
Orianna Thu 16:27

Vote for her fire guy
Brand Thu 16:28

What if she stole a coven role yesterday from Viktor?
Moderator Thu 16:28

Brand votes to lynch Sona
Orianna Thu 16:28

Damn balanced
Thu 16:29

We need 1 more
Brand Thu 16:29

I think that's fine for now
Thu 16:29

Let's leave it balanced, it's pressure only for now, right
Thu 16:29

?
Orianna Thu 16:29

You are right
Thu 16:29

We will see
Poppy Thu 16:30

Altough the lynch is default now
Thu 16:30

she has to speak
Thu 16:30

we're also concerned with Puppets, so we need a good majority when we are really lynching
Thu 16:30

but Sona has a few hours still
Brand Thu 16:30

Oh crap - she steals coven then they swap her into a puppet?
Thu 16:31

Hmm, but idk, I think she sounded the same?
Thu 16:31

Less active though
Thu 16:31

#paranoia
Thu 16:33

The only way she's vamp team is if she was recruited N3 right?
Poppy Thu 16:33

No, also N4, but we can only confirm a N3-recruit probably
Twistedfate Thu 16:34

You lose Mason the night you're recruited, I think, but not sure 100%
Poppy Thu 16:35

yes, but the night of your recruit is still there - at least, the recruit is only really computed at dawn, so any chat up until then is already there
Twistedfate Thu 16:35

it's not coven, I'm almost positive
Thu 16:35

hhmhmm
Brand Thu 16:35

Though *
Thu 16:35

You can still see the previous nights thougj
Twistedfate Thu 16:36

we may want clarification
Brand Thu 16:36

So if she's was recruited last night (N4) she should still be able to read N4 chat
Poppy Thu 16:36

indeed
Thu 16:37

not sure if mason chat is erased after, so you can't look back once you refresh the page (I've had something like that, but that was a while ago)
Brand Thu 16:38

I was able to reread it after being recruited in `ext-170`
Poppy Thu 16:39

okay, so I guess that's out of the question
Lux Thu 16:39

Hi
Brand Thu 16:39

So I'm pretty certain if she was vamp'd it was N3
Lux Thu 16:39

I will tell my result first
Thu 16:39

Didn't have time to read back
Brand Thu 16:39

Is it "Lucian, mason leader"?
Lux Thu 16:39

I will be back after a few minutes
Twistedfate Thu 16:40

Ah, so she should know the code regardless
Lux Thu 16:40

TF visited Veigar
Twistedfate Thu 16:40

unless djinn
Thu 16:40

Lux, my hero!
Lux Thu 16:40

seeya
Brand Thu 16:40

So
Twistedfate Thu 16:40

Thank you for stalking me!
Brand Thu 16:40

IF Twisted is familiar, he's Familiar GD
Poppy Thu 16:41

Yes
Thu 16:41

It just became more likely, though, that Graves is coven ;)
Lux Thu 16:41

I think he is lit
Thu 16:41

Will be back to read
Poppy Thu 16:42

TF, you did already state your result, right?
Twistedfate Thu 16:42

So, odds of me being GD, recruited and still being GD?
Thu 16:42

C'mon, guys
Poppy Thu 16:42

33%, I guess?
Thu 16:43

the chance
Brand Thu 16:43

Twisted, maybe you got lucky xD
Poppy Thu 16:43

but I believe you, TF
Brand Thu 16:43

Yeah, odds are low
Poppy Thu 16:43

Brand & Graves coven buddies, I guess :)
Brand Thu 16:44

Lux, Familiar stalker; Twisted, familiar other?
Thu 16:44

Poppy, you think Lux is telling the truth now
Thu 16:44

?
Poppy Thu 16:44

Not necessarily
Brand Thu 16:44

Poppy, just want to examine all the options especially since you were distrustful of Lux earlier iirc
Poppy Thu 16:45

Yes indeed
Thu 16:45

Very good
Twistedfate Thu 16:45

Lux def could be fam stalker, like I could be fam gd
Brand Thu 16:45

The thing that is bugging me is: if Graves is coven, which coven is he?
Poppy Thu 16:46

with 3 alchemists to start with, we don't know
Twistedfate Thu 16:46

The little bit of distrust is sensible, I guess, just bothersome when you know the truth
Brand Thu 16:46

We've had three claims of being purged I think (Jhin, Corki,... Wait nevermind
Thu 16:46

Kass doesn't count
Moderator Thu 16:47

Teemo votes to lynch Sona
Brand Thu 16:48

Basically, what I was going to get at is: can't be Djinn (because sometimes would have to have swapped him), unlikely to be PM, and I was thinking we had three purge claims whilst he was dead
Thu 16:48

But now I think I'm mistaken on the last point
Thu 16:48

Sometimes -> sometimes
Thu 16:48

....
Thu 16:48

Someone*
Thu 16:49

Fuck this keyboard
Teemo Thu 16:52

@Poppy, Sona told Zilean to revive you so thats probably who did it, bc I did not
Brand Thu 16:52

But she said don't in the end, I thought?
Thu 16:53

But it would be good to get a formal answer on it
Twistedfate Thu 16:53

Yeah, revivers were to do nothing last night
Thu 16:53

End of day chat
Teemo Thu 16:54

Oh crap yea you're right
Thu 16:54

I just checked
Twistedfate Thu 16:54

Sona Wed 19:34 So the plans for the night are: Wed 19:35 REVIVERS: do not revive Wed 19:36 STALKERS: stalk Varus Wed 19:37 TF: check Veiga
Teemo Thu 16:54

maybe he didn't read it?
Thu 16:54

or a witch revive which would make poppy evil
Thu 16:55

who is she in conflict with? corki?
Twistedfate Thu 16:55

Well, it was mentioned several times that we didn't know who was who in GY, so revive was a bad idea
Brand Thu 16:55

Graves and to a lesser extent me
Thu 16:56

Teemo, she claims Veigar (checked last night as puppet) visited Graves and Poppy in the night Graves was revived
Thu 16:58

I *think* that if both me and Veigar did revive Graves we'd have seen two revives
Thu 16:58

But I'm not 100% on that
Teemo Thu 17:01

So we think Veigar was witch, revived Graves (along w/ you), and the was swapped in GY w a Puppet
Brand Thu 17:01

Wait wait wait
Thu 17:01

Could Viktor actually have been VM and got smited?
Thu 17:01

Poppy said he visited Sona N3 right?
Thu 17:02

Or was it N2?
Teemo Thu 17:02

i dont remember
Brand Thu 17:02

Ugh
Teemo Thu 17:02

ik...
Brand Thu 17:02

Need my PC
Teemo Thu 17:04

Gotta brb for a moment. Ill be back soon
Thu 17:04

i think
Lux Thu 17:05

Finished reading, but still have some questions
Thu 17:05

anyone's here?
Brand Thu 17:05

Yes
Lux Thu 17:05

Only one?
Thu 17:05

ok
Thu 17:06

1. Who revived Poppy?
Brand Thu 17:06

Idk, next
Lux Thu 17:06

2. I stated my result on N3 that she visited Vei, she confirmed, but didn't trust me. Why?
Brand Thu 17:07

#paranoia, next
Twistedfate Thu 17:07

No, i trust you, Lux!
Thu 17:07

I mean, as much as is possible for this game
Lux Thu 17:07

3. Are masons sure that Sona changed side?
Thu 17:08

@Thanks Twis
Twistedfate Thu 17:08

I was stating that, from any outside perspective, you and I could both be seen as possible fam because I'm GD and you're stalker, both Fam roles
Brand Thu 17:08

No, but it's looking possible
Thu 17:08

Twisted, I think Lux is referring to Poppy?
Twistedfate Thu 17:08

But why didn't sona speak in mason chat?
Thu 17:08

She was defi turned to either coven or fam
Lux Thu 17:08

Anw, I think you're lit, but I experienced a Stalker turned into Fam-stalker before
Twistedfate Thu 17:09

Yeah, I know it's possible, but thanks for the trust
Thu 17:09

But why didn't she just say the word?
Thu 17:09

She can only not know it if she was djinned
Lux Thu 17:09

Yes, I was talking about Poppy.
Twistedfate Thu 17:09

Otherwise, she'd still have the chat
Thu 17:09

Oh, sorry
Lux Thu 17:10

And as I read yesterday the village didn't really trust Poppy, if Zi really revivied her? Why? He was asked not to
Brand Thu 17:10

So last night I played SHitler and we elected Hitler-Shane as Chancellor and so now I trust no-one
Twistedfate Thu 17:10

I was talking about " Are masons sure that Sona changed side?"
Brand Thu 17:10

I hope you guys understand
Lux Thu 17:10

Sound like witch revive to me
Twistedfate Thu 17:10

Ahaha
Moderator Thu 17:11

Lux votes to lynch Sona
Twistedfate Thu 17:11

Well, we have a couple of clear paths to choose today, at least
Thu 17:11

then tomorrow we start all over figuring out what's what
Lux Thu 17:12

If masons agreed that Sona changed side, I think she is a good lynch either fam or coven
Twistedfate Thu 17:12

Yeah
Thu 17:12

But even if she has the code, she didn't speak in chat
Thu 17:12

So do we proceed with the lynch?
Brand Thu 17:12

Neither did Lucian though
Thu 17:13

But seems like he's still trusted
Twistedfate Thu 17:13

Not gonna lie, lynching Sona would make me happy on a personal level, but even i have to wonder if that's the right move
Thu 17:13

Huh
Thu 17:13

Did he have a code?
Thu 17:13

I think I missed a portion of today
Brand Thu 17:13

I think so
Lux Thu 17:13

Twist, what do you think about Graves
Thu 17:13

?
Brand Thu 17:13

Yeah, you might wanna go read back a bit if you have time
Twistedfate Thu 17:13

Oh, Graves is 100% evil
Brand Thu 17:13

Around 1100 GMT
Lux Thu 17:13

you digged him, didn't you?
Thu 17:13

so... swap?
Twistedfate Thu 17:13

I will, yeah, I've been a little harried this morning
Thu 17:14

Yes, swapped and revived, likely witch
Lux Thu 17:14

Another question on Poppy: If she's lit, then veigar is a witch, right?
Twistedfate Thu 17:14

That was the idea yesterday, and he confirmed it today by saying I was vamp fam
Lux Thu 17:14

you checked vei as a puppet
Twistedfate Thu 17:14

yes, I think so
Thu 17:15

Veig was def swapped
Thu 17:15

in GY
Lux Thu 17:15

Even it was a swap
Thu 17:15

how coven knows vamp will kill Vei to swap her to somebody else?
Twistedfate Thu 17:16

Okay, I am entirely order of op impaired
Thu 17:16

so swap happens after dig?
Brand Thu 17:16

Yes
Twistedfate Thu 17:16

So she was swapped the same night she was killed?
Lux Thu 17:16

Until now, Poppy has 3 conflicts: 1. I confirmed her, but she sus me. 2. Vei. 3. Viktor visited Sona
Twistedfate Thu 17:17

They may have intended to swap veig anyway after the GD mess
Thu 17:17

Yeah, it's pretty messy
Lux Thu 17:17

Possibly
Thu 17:17

Did you dig Viktor?
Brand Thu 17:17

This is a stupid question - could they have intended to swap Veigar into Poppy?
Twistedfate Thu 17:18

Oh, but they couldn't haveswapped her with someone in GY
Brand Thu 17:18

and then both died?
Twistedfate Thu 17:18

This is a great point!
Thu 17:18

Hmm
Lux Thu 17:18

so now Poppy is Veigar?
Thu 17:18

That explains a lot
Twistedfate Thu 17:19

The other option, to me, is that Veig was puppet from the start, and the Alch claim on Graves was meant as a puppet throw away
Thu 17:19

Get away with it if you can, if not, just a puppet
Thu 17:20

Not sure which would be more likely
Lux Thu 17:20

how can puppet visit Poppy if Poppy's lit?
Twistedfate Thu 17:20

Yeah, they can't
Lux Thu 17:20

If Veig is a puppet from the beginning, Poppy lied
Twistedfate Thu 17:20

I'm not saying poppy is lit in that scenario
Thu 17:20

Just that she may not be Veig
Lux Thu 17:20

I think Poppy tried to point out that Viktor is a protector
Thu 17:21

Did any GDs dig Viktor?
Thu 17:22

Argh this game was a mess.
Thu 17:22

im really sleepy
Thu 17:22

I have a feeling that I will be killed tonight
Twistedfate Thu 17:23

It was a mess, and still is
Thu 17:23

I have to go to the doctor
Thu 17:23

Should be back before nightfall
Lux Thu 17:23

Bye TF <3
Poppy Thu 18:13

Lux, glad to see you more active! I guess you're right that I shouldn't distrust you too much right now, your stalks check out at least.
Teemo Thu 18:37

I lied, I wont be back soon, have to take an exam. Leave me any instruction here Ill be sure to check
Thu 18:37

I can still revivie
Thu 18:37

revive*
Brand Thu 19:13

So looks like we're lynching Sona then?
Thu 19:13

She's not turned back up to give the safe word?
Poppy Thu 19:19

I guess so! Would be helpful/safe if we move at least 1 vote more on Sona, although if we have indeed lynched a puppet a difference of 2 is enough..
Moderator Thu 19:21

Jhin votes to lynch Sona
Brand Thu 19:22

Hi Jhin
Thu 19:22

anything to say?
Twistedfate Thu 19:22

There's definitely at least 1 puppet in GY, so it's fine either way
Thu 19:23

Jhin, I know it's been a hell of a thing with you and me and this game, but can you be constructive and tell us anything
Thu 19:23

I'm not here to scream at you or anything
Brand Thu 19:23

Can we just lynch him tomorrow? :/
Jhin Thu 19:23

I have quite a few things to say... About what happened t'other day. After I went quiet following the Twisted outburst, I saw a few comments still suggesting I was acting suspicious, unreasonably angry, or made "0 sense". It didn't seem to occur to many people that I might have left the game, or at least taken some time to respond to being called a fucking moron and being told to eat a bag full of dicks.
Twistedfate Thu 19:24

Probably not
Brand Thu 19:24

Oh man, was that phrase actually used?
Twistedfate Thu 19:24

Look, what you did was absolutely fucking awful, so telling me your feelings got hurt isn't going to spur any sympathy
Thu 19:25

I said it, yea
Brand Thu 19:25

(Bahahahaha, sorry :D)
Thu 19:25

Jhin, okay, so let's put t'other day behind us - any thoughts on today?
Thu 19:25

have you had chance to read up?
Twistedfate Thu 19:26

All game talk aside, you agreed to this plan, and knew for a fact I was getting fucked over in order to help get things straight
Brand Thu 19:26

Do you know /why/ we're voting Sona?
Twistedfate Thu 19:26

You purposely let me do that for nothing
Thu 19:26

I lost sleep and made myself sick for that, in real life
Jhin Thu 19:27

I already felt uncomfortable at being told exactly who to dig, when to do it, at what precise second to report their identity and with what spelling and spacing - seriously. No suggestions were taken on board, weaknesses in the plan were ignored and my comments were generally met with typical bullying behaviour. When the countdown came, there was a confusion of people wanting to count to 3, count down to 0, having the reveal at exactly 15:30 and wanting to give the GDs 30 seconds, then 20, ten 10, then 5.
Twistedfate Thu 19:27

There wasn't confusion
Thu 19:27

You were refusing to do what we needed to do
Thu 19:27

ANYway
Jhin Thu 19:28

Sorry for the c word but I found that confusing.
Twistedfate Thu 19:28

What do you have for us?
Thu 19:28

Well, you really fucked up
Thu 19:28

Nobody bullied you
Brand Thu 19:28

Can we talk about today?
Twistedfate Thu 19:28

You could have not agreed and i would have not gotten up at that time
Thu 19:28

YES
Thu 19:28

Can we talk about anything else?
Thu 19:30

Jhin, did you use your ability at all, or did you just leave?
Thu 19:30

I'm not trying to argue anymore
Brand Thu 19:30

Jhin got purged, didn't he?
Thu 19:30

iirc?
Twistedfate Thu 19:30

Oh, right. . .
Thu 19:30

Fuck
Thu 19:33

So, for future reference, VM + Coven games are basically quiet, infuriating, and exhausting
Thu 19:33

Jhin, why did you come back to vote? (Not snarky or rude, genuinely curious)
Thu 19:36

I'd really love to just say we call this game a dud and walk away
Jhin Thu 19:36

I have been making up my mind whether to just get smitten out of the game or say something first.
Brand Thu 19:37

Jhin, I think you made the right choice coming back
Twistedfate Thu 19:37

Agreed
Brand Thu 19:37

after all, it's *possible* that the people you disagreed with are evil - and if they behave in such a way to get you smited, then they win
Thu 19:37

D:
Jhin Thu 19:38

Then I wondered what kind of an impression just leaving without a word would make.
Twistedfate Thu 19:40

Well, you're here and talking, so are you able to finish the game as a participant?
Thu 19:40

Or, I guess, do you want to?
Jhin Thu 19:40

I have no real wish to continue this game after the group dynamic derailed like it did.
Twistedfate Thu 19:40

. . .
Thu 19:40

I don't think I can do this
Thu 19:40

I'm going to disengage
Thu 19:40

Good luck, Jhin
Brand Thu 19:41

Jhin, maybe you could share your thoughts on who the evils are?
Jhin Thu 19:43

For those that do wish to continue, I just don't want to throw them a red herring by creating suspicion about my motives. I'm just a purged GD who doesn't like this business anymore.
Brand Thu 19:43

Jhin, what was your last dig?
Thu 19:43

i.e. the dig on the night you were purged?
Thu 19:43

was it Graves => Seer?
Thu 19:44

or did you have one more after that?
Jhin Thu 19:45

I dug Graves last and now @mod pls get me out of here.
Sona Thu 19:48

wtf
Moderator Thu 19:48

Sona votes to lynch Corki
Twistedfate Thu 19:48

Sona so freaked out she voted twice
Sona Thu 19:49

Can someone explain who I'm evil?!
Twistedfate Thu 19:49

No code
Thu 19:49

Refused to give it, didn't talk last night
Brand Thu 19:49

Sona, you didn't talk in mason chat and refused to provide the code
Thu 19:49

they believe you've been recruited
Thu 19:49

(not last night but the night before)
Thu 19:49

(recruited or coven'd)
Twistedfate Thu 19:49

Did you rob someone?
Thu 19:50

Where did they coven you?
Thu 19:50

Show me on the doll
Brand Thu 19:51

the problem is now
Thu 19:51

what if Sona tells us a safe word
Thu 19:51

how do we even know it's the right one?
Thu 19:52

there are no masons around to confirm it o_0
Twistedfate Thu 19:52

We can't
Thu 19:52

It's too late no matter what
Thu 19:52

Refusing to give the code + stating I won't read back pretty much did her in
Brand Thu 19:54

There's a sad irony in that
Thu 19:54

:'(
Twistedfate Thu 19:55

Showing up at 10 minutes till night didn't help either
Thu 19:57

I'm not going to say anything about whom I'll be digging tonight
Thu 19:57

Any stalkers who might still be village stalkers, good luck
Thu 19:57

Revivers DO NOT REVIVE
Thu 19:57

Witches either. . .
Brand Thu 19:58

:P
Thu 19:58

nice addendum
Twistedfate Thu 19:58

Seemed necessary
Brand Thu 19:58

sadly
Thu 19:59

also, can we take a moment to acknowledge that no-one has actually claimed to have revived Poppy o_0
Twistedfate Thu 19:59

IF I die in th night, consider my revival!
Thu 19:59

Yep, thinking the same
Lynched Thu 20:00

Sona was lynched by the village
Brand Fri 08:11

Masons, before we do anything else today, I need to know something...
Fri 08:12

Was Sona's safe word yesterday really "Direwolf"?
Corki Fri 08:16

there's no kill?
Fri 08:17

is this weird?
Brand Fri 08:18

Depends:
Fri 08:18

N2 = two militia kills :. We assume two recruits
Fri 08:19

N5 = no kills :. we assume two recruits
Fri 08:20

We also assume that Sona was recruited N3, meaning one of the N3 deaths could have been Witch (if we believe Poppy) or maybe a Fam Militia
Fri 08:21

So that would leave one vampire recruit unaccounted for
Fri 08:22

So, I'd need to timeline this, but if Sona was the last of one VM line then maybe last night was the final recruit of the other?
Fri 08:22

Alternatively, one vampire might have attacked the other, or hit protector save (but I'll come on to that one in a little while)
Fri 08:29

Corki, do you have any thoughts?
Fri 08:29

Do YOU think it is weird?
Corki Fri 08:36

I I agree vamp recruited last night
Fri 08:36

Varus claimed prot ( as I remember) ..and he protected Twist
Fri 08:37

so last night, either Vamp hit the prot or .... recruiting
Varus Fri 08:50

I protected twistedfate the night before indeed
Fri 08:50

but last night, however, still got no kills.......
Fri 08:50

should I say whom I protected last night?
Fri 08:51

I think missing kills a few days straight seem weird
Fri 08:51

maybe I'll wait a lil' bit though
Brand Fri 09:06

Yeah, about Varus's claim
Fri 09:06

Let's talk about that
Fri 09:07

I never really trusted it, but Vi made a convincing argument about why Viktor couldn't be protector (because Sona failed to steal from him)
Fri 09:07

But, that was the same night we now think Sona was familiarized...
Fri 09:08

So what if Sona stole protector from Viktor but was recruited (maybe by Varus himself??) and so lied about not having been able to steal from Viktor
Fri 09:08

Possible?
Varus Fri 09:19

though I claimed to guard poppy on that exact same night?
Brand Fri 09:20

Yeah, so?
Fri 09:20

We only have your word for that?
Varus Fri 09:21

then, how about grave saying that twistedfate was a familiar, yet I was confirmed visiting him on the same night by corki?
Fri 09:21

the seer sees the old faction if they visit at the same night of the recruitment
Fri 09:22

so, if twistedfate was already a familiar before, he would've died with my visit if I were the vamp
Brand Fri 09:22

Graves could be lying, Corki could be lying
Fri 09:22

Neither are particularly trustworthy
Varus Fri 09:22

everyone is lying when brand is speaking
Brand Fri 09:23

The thing about this game is that we have three evil factions to fight against
Fri 09:24

And I don't trust any of you
Fri 09:24

Varus, I'm not saying you *are* lying, I'm saying you might be
Fri 09:25

And I'd like to keep those possibilities open for people to discuss
Varus Fri 09:25

you seem a little bit too focused to it when you said that you were just implying to keep it open
Brand Fri 09:25

Because there are too many perceived coincidences for my liking
Varus Fri 09:26

I still wonder if I should reveal my last night's protection since we're missing kills for two nights straight now
Brand Fri 09:26

Varus, well if you succeed yesterday then wouldn't the vampire have just gone for the same target again?
Fri 09:27

Although.
Fri 09:27

Protector can protect against a recruitment
Varus Fri 09:27

that could very well happen today, you know
Brand Fri 09:27

So that also changes things
Varus Fri 09:27

I mean, last night
Poppy Fri 09:27

At the dentist. Good talking, I'll join in in an hour or so. Just dropping off my check: Brand didn't visit anyone. I checked him since, while we didn't necessarily contradict each other, appeared to be rivals. So this vouches for him, at least confirms he's not a visiting role atm..
Brand Fri 09:28

(Eeek, Dentist D:)
Fri 09:28

(Good luck, Poppy!)
Fri 09:29

Right now, I think we need to hear from Twisted
Fri 09:29

I hope he checked Sona, although his talk last night suggested otherwise!
Fri 09:31

So
Fri 09:31

So far this game we've lynched: Liss, Ez, Kass, Sona
Fri 09:32

Liss was lynched D2, and there was no recruit N1, so maybe we got lucky there and caught a VM instantly
Fri 09:32

But
Fri 09:32

Wait, no But
Fri 09:33

Then N2 was both militia kills, maybe the remaining vampire recruits Kass
Fri 09:35

D3, we lynch Ez, Ez becomes Kass, N3 Ezzadin recruits Sona - but the are two kills, maybe we attribute Poppy to Veigar (as she claimed) but then who killed Veigar?
Fri 09:36

Then D4 we lynch Ezzadin, Ezzadin becomes Sona and what then?
Fri 09:36

Ezzadina recruits again? Or Ezzadina fails to kill?
Fri 09:37

Otherwise, I don't see any way we don't have two VMs still alive??
Fri 09:37

Maybe I overlooked something
Fri 09:55

*does some work whilst he waits for more people to turn up*
Poppy Fri 10:03

This is a good moment to start tying things together, try to build a timeline so far - so good work, Brand...
Fri 10:03

I'll join in in a bit, just taking a rest
Orianna Fri 10:43

This is really hot i think i need a fan
Fri 10:46

Look likes we are on quiet a stale mate :|
Brand Fri 10:52

Stalemate, Ori?
Varus Fri 11:08

we still got fourteen alive people and you're talking about a stalemate
Brand Fri 11:37

Strange, isn't it
Poppy Fri 11:40

That's a bit premature indeed
Fri 11:40

I guess we are coming into calmer waters now, looking at the quiet nights
Fri 11:41

Okay, timeline talk
Fri 11:42

So double death N1/N2/N3, and then 0 deaths N4/N5.
Fri 11:44

It seems reasonable to assume at least one VM is dead. Not sure about the second one, but if there is still a VM, it's probably 1-2 people left (so VM with 0/1 Fams left).
Fri 11:47

Right now, I think the only two players who are absolutely in conflict are Graves versus Twistedfate. There are some more suspicions around and about, some questions still unanswered.
Fri 11:47

On Graves/TF: as I said, I saw Veigar visiting Graves the night of their revive, so I'm inclined to think Graves is coven.
Fri 11:48

On my revive: I think we still need to hear from Zilean, he's the only claimed reviver who still hasn't spoken up about it. If nobody claims my revive, it's clear that one of both parties is non-village, so you'll have to investigate me/the reviver(s).
Fri 11:50

I'm interested to hear checks from Lux/Twisted/Graves
Fri 11:59

I also took a look at Twisted's activity times, I remember someone made a remark about that.... There's nothing obviously wrong there, so I think it checks out.
Moderator Fri 12:02

Poppy votes to lynch Graves
Graves Fri 12:13

hi its very quiet today
Fri 12:16

i expected our masons to have spoken today they have been very talking most days
Poppy Fri 12:20

Your check, please
Graves Fri 12:20

that is a bad sign i think normally they are talking codes and asking things i hope they are just busy but some have been quiet for a couple of days now and the rest are quiet now
Fri 12:20

i was purged i have no check i said that yesterday
Poppy Fri 12:24

ah yes, I forgot
Graves Fri 12:24

its ok this game had a lot happen
Fri 12:26

i think most of what you say above sound right except i know i am not coven but i know why you would think that if veigar did revive me
Fri 12:27

i am worried that zeilan was around yesterday but did not say if they revived you or not but hope they tell us today
Fri 12:28

i will vote for twistedfate right now because i know they are evil but i will move the vote if we decide there is a more important bad to lynch
Moderator Fri 12:28

Graves votes to lynch Twistedfate
Graves Fri 12:29

the masons being quiet is a concern though
Zilean Fri 12:30

I revived Poppy
Moderator Fri 12:30

Zilean votes to lynch Corki
Graves Fri 12:31

ah ok thanks zilean
Zilean Fri 12:31

I thought you guys knew it already :<
Graves Fri 12:32

we guessed it but wanted to confirm
Fri 12:34

if you had not done it that would confirm a witch or an unclaimed reviver
Zilean Fri 12:36

Yeah
Graves Fri 12:41

just reread that orianna is here so at least one mason is here
Fri 12:45

ok i have to go but i should be able to come back before night i am hoping finish earlier today
Poppy Fri 12:58

Zilean, thanks for the confirmation. It seemed the reasonable thing to assume, but we'd still want to hear it from you ;)
Lucian Fri 13:02

My light bulb is broken some how :<
Fri 13:02

anyway
Fri 13:02

Ahiri didnt gave the code i noicted
Fri 13:02

only me and Ori spoke last night
Fri 13:03

Vi usually be the first one
Fri 13:03

but she didnt talk so let pressure (or lynch) her first
Zilean Fri 13:03

Did you give Vi a new code last night?
Moderator Fri 13:03

Lucian votes to lynch Vi
Lucian Fri 13:03

No
Fri 13:03

last night were Ori
Fri 13:04

yes i did gave to Vi
Zilean Fri 13:04

Nice
Lucian Fri 13:04

this is really confusing
Fri 13:04

Any who
Fri 13:05

Vi is usualy the first one to give codes but she didnt talked yesterday so Ori must give the code and she included all of the mebers
Fri 13:05

can you vote for Vi Zilean?
Moderator Fri 13:05

Zilean votes to lynch Vi
Zilean Fri 13:05

Let's wait for Vi
Brand Fri 13:16

Zi, cool, one mystery solved ;)
Fri 13:16

Lucian, was Sona's code yesterday "Direwolf"?
Fri 13:20

Lucian, Zi, either of you still around?
Zilean Fri 13:21

Im here
Lucian Fri 13:21

Me here
Zilean Fri 13:21

We are here!
Lucian Fri 13:21

Why do you ask? Because yes Sona code was Direwolf
Zilean Fri 13:22

Noooo it's Bloodhound
Lucian Fri 13:22

what?
Fri 13:23

xD
Brand Fri 13:30

Lucian, Vi said it yesterday
Fri 13:30

And then Sona turned up and refused to give the code word and refused to read back
Fri 13:30

And I thought it was hilarious, because if she'd bothered to read the backlog she'd have been able to prove herself
Fri 13:31

So, anyway, now I've satisfied my curiosity on that point, let's do some brain storming
Lucian Fri 13:32

xD
Brand Fri 13:32

Let's cast our minds back to D1 => given everything we know now, can we draw a possible list of VMs?
Lucian Fri 13:33

My best sus are
Fri 13:33

Ahri, Vi
Brand Fri 13:33

That's today, right?
Fri 13:34

So if they're VM today, who were the VMs in D1?
Zilean Fri 13:37

I guess it's Viktor and Liss or even Varus but it's unlikely
Brand Fri 13:39

What about Ez?
Zilean Fri 13:40

Ah sorry, I mean Ezreal not Liss
Fri 13:41

I think I forgot something
Fri 13:41

Will reread
Moderator Fri 14:38

Twistedfate votes to lynch Graves
Twistedfate Fri 14:39

Hey, g'mornin
Fri 14:40

Sona = Fam
Fri 14:42

So we have 2 non-speakng masons, Graves, who is 100% evil, and a whole lot of not *really* knowing much else
Fri 14:42

The mason thing is a problem, but for more than one reason
Fri 14:42

I'd like to hear from all of them before voting for any
Fri 14:43

Graves, I know, is evil, so for now, that's where my vote goes
Lucian Fri 14:50

no no no
Fri 14:50

i think it is more easier to prove the mason
Fri 14:50

please vote Vi
Moderator Fri 15:03

Twistedfate votes to lynch Vi
Twistedfate Fri 15:04

All right, I'm on board with pressure
Fri 15:06

About Zil, why revive Poppy when there was an explicit and pretty universally agreed lack of information for reviving?
Fri 15:08

@Brand, I noticed that, too, but there was no way I was going to point it out to Sona! Haha
Fri 15:08

Also, I think this is the only game I've played in which I've wishes upon wish for a TR
Fri 15:08

wished*
Fri 15:10

I do not believe Corki's claim about the bug in his message, either
Fri 15:10

So Corki is up there on my list
Brand Fri 15:11

The Corki thing is so difficult
Fri 15:12

If there's a bug I think that the village deserves to know
Twistedfate Fri 15:12

Yeah, definitely
Brand Fri 15:12

But by getting official confirmation we effectively prove or disprove Corki
Twistedfate Fri 15:12

And I think Mod *would* tell us if a bug was going to influence the game
Brand Fri 15:12

So bah
Twistedfate Fri 15:13

I can ask mod to post in game *if* there was a message bug yesterday
Fri 15:13

Not sure how it'll shake out, but it's worth a shot
Brand Fri 15:13

No
Fri 15:13

Because if he pays
Fri 15:13

Ugh
Fri 15:14

If he posts, Corki is undeniably real
Fri 15:14

And if he's silent, Corki is undeniably not real
Twistedfate Fri 15:15

Sure, but bugs should not be hidden
Brand Fri 15:15

Mmmh
Fri 15:16

Twisted, I'm glad you checked Sona btw
Fri 15:16

Your talk last night made me think you were being to pick randomly or something xD
Twistedfate Fri 15:17

Anyway, I requested a message only if there was a bug, so it's entirely up to mod to decide
Fri 15:17

Yeah, that was the idea
Fri 15:17

Possibly lessen the Djinn fuckery if there is any
Brand Fri 15:17

Might have been better to wait for a Lux to reveal her stalk first though
Fri 15:18

Just in case she's been lying all along x_x
Fri 15:19

So, if Sona is Fam then there's at least one VM left in play
Twistedfate Fri 15:20

Right
Fri 15:21

I would think it likely to be one of the other masons
Brand Fri 15:21

It's... It's strange though
Fri 15:22

*looks at Twisted suspiciously*
Fri 15:22

Oh wait, no
Fri 15:22

*withdraws suspicious look*
Twistedfate Fri 15:23

Haha, thanks, my heart can't take any more of this sus stuff
Brand Fri 15:23

I was thinking that Sona should have been VM because that would explain why she couldn't see the previous night's chat
Fri 15:23

But I'm dumb
Fri 15:23

She was recruited the day before
Fri 15:24

So ignore me
Fri 15:24

It's the weekend, I need sleep
Twistedfate Fri 15:24

Yeah, I can see the moment of suspicion
Fri 15:24

XD
Fri 15:24

I always need sleep
Brand Fri 15:25

You shouldn't get up at 0600 then
Fri 15:25

/me runs
Twistedfate Fri 15:25

*glares*
Brand Fri 15:25

_/oo\_
Twistedfate Fri 15:25

After this game, it's safe to say i probably won't agree to that anymore
Fri 15:25

That looks like arms and boobs
Brand Fri 15:26

(if it helps [it probably doesn't] I have to get up at 0600 every weekday)
Fri 15:26

It's someone hiding under covers or similar
Fri 15:27

I could try and draw some ASCII boobs but I'm not sure that's appropriate
Twistedfate Fri 15:27

Sorry you have to get up so early :(
Fri 15:28

Noooooo
Brand Fri 15:28

Ah, it's fine, I got used to it (by getting used to always feeling tired probably xD)
Fri 15:28

So, VM
Fri 15:29

Lucian, Vi, Ori or Ahri?
Fri 15:29

Lucian has thrown a lot of shade on Vi today, but Vi was the one who pushed Sona yesterday iirc
Twistedfate Fri 15:30

Really hard to say without hearing from all
Brand Fri 15:30

Plus, wait
Fri 15:30

I'm not sure it can be Vi
Twistedfate Fri 15:30

Lucian *could* be trying to screw over lit masons
Brand Fri 15:30

Ugh this instant swap stuff fucks with my head
Twistedfate Fri 15:30

yeah
Brand Fri 15:31

But Vi wouldn't have known the code words if Vi was VM and recruited Sona
Fri 15:31

But
Fri 15:31

If Sona was recruited by Kass, became VM when Kass was lynched and then recruited Vi...
Fri 15:32

Maybe Vi deliberately messed up the code so that Sona would be able to claim?
Twistedfate Fri 15:32

Yeah, we have to assume whoever is VM nor was recruited after Sona
Brand Fri 15:32

So then we lynched Sona and she reverted into Vi?
Twistedfate Fri 15:32

Possible
Fri 15:32

Recruit last night
Fri 15:33

plus night before
Brand Fri 15:33

Can it have been last night?
Fri 15:33

Depends what the chain was
Twistedfate Fri 15:33

(on mobile, cave speak)
Brand Fri 15:33

I think Ez - Kass - Sona - Vi
Twistedfate Fri 15:34

No kill last night means recruit, but no way to know which
Brand Fri 15:34

Which would need to be recruits N2, N3 and N4
Fri 15:34

Doesn't explain no deaths N5
Fri 15:35

And I come back again to: maybe there are two vampires and they both tried to kill each other...
Fri 15:42

Who did Varus protect N4?
Fri 15:42

Did he say?
Fri 15:42

Oh that was Poppy
Fri 15:42

Hmm
Fri 15:43

Then Vi N5, then U. N. Known last night
Fri 15:45

I hope he comes back today
Fri 15:45

But I don't think he will ;-;
Lux Fri 16:30

Hi guys
Fri 16:30

Corki didn't visit anyone last night
Fri 16:31

I stalked him because none of his check makes sense
Fri 16:34

N1: (After Kass's claim) Maokai didn't visit anyone. N2: (After Kass' claim) Kass visited him N3: Sona didn't visit anyone N4 Varus visited TF and claim to get purged
Fri 16:34

So, either Corki is lit or Corki and Varus are on the same team
Fri 16:35

But I'm quite sure that me, poppy and kass were stalkers from the beginning
Fri 16:36

So Corki lied + Varus wasn't lit (or Corki just had a good guess)
Moderator Fri 16:36

Lux votes to lynch Vi
Lux Fri 16:36

I can change vote if Vi came back and say her masons' code
Fri 16:39

I hope Varus is lit. A protector is who we really need. But Vamps want him too, so....
Corki Fri 16:54

lol, i was purged then im vanilla now
Fri 16:54

ofc i couldn't visit anyone after yesterday
Poppy Fri 16:58

I agree that the whole Corki situation is nasty and uncertain, not sure what to do with that. I agree with the possibility of Varus being evil as well. What's exactly happening in the masons is also puzzling...
Fri 16:58

I'll join now for pressure
Moderator Fri 16:58

Poppy votes to lynch Vi
Corki Fri 17:01

alright, Im up for it
Moderator Fri 17:01

Corki votes to lynch Vi
Moderator Fri 17:02

Brand votes to lynch Lucian
Brand Fri 17:02

Just to be different
Fri 17:02

^_^
Lux Fri 17:05

When was the last time ahri show up in masons chat and state her code at day?
Fri 17:07

I have a crazy explaination of no death at night: Vamps want the village to think that all vamps (or at least 1 vamp) was killed
Poppy Fri 17:15

That sounds reasonable
Teemo Fri 17:16

Hey teemo here. Kinda
Fri 17:16

No purge im still powerful lol
Poppy Fri 17:16

Kinda? As in: actually you're somebody else, but they got moved into Teemo? ;P
Teemo Fri 17:26

And have nothing meaningful to aff tue the convo
Fri 17:27

There's just too many possibilities and im confused
Fri 17:27

As in**
Poppy Fri 17:27

Sssh, don't use the c-word, it draws attention to you! ;)
Teemo Fri 17:27

How so?
Poppy Fri 17:29

People who say they're confused are sometimes found suspicious
Fri 17:30

I guess it's because it's possibly a cover for evils to hide behind
Fri 17:30

You can say you're confused and then make strange decisions, you can say you're confused and then you don't have to formulate your opinion on people/events and thereby don't progress the village discussion
Fri 17:31

I'm not saying it applies to your situation here, though - I was making a joke
Fri 17:31

But 'the c-word' is apparently a thing, just wanted to say that ;p
Fri 17:31

The graveyard seems a mine field
Fri 17:31

not sure if we will ever use that revive of yours, Teemo
Teemo Fri 17:32

Gotcha
Moderator Fri 17:35

Teemo votes to lynch Vi
Teemo Fri 17:35

Assisting the pressure
Twistedfate Fri 17:57

So. . . this is today, huh?
Fri 17:58

We have 12-13 actual people in this game. . .
Fri 17:58

Pretty pathetic turnout
Moderator Fri 17:58

Vi votes to lynch Ahri
Vi Fri 17:59

Chandelier
Fri 17:59

Family stuff ....
Fri 17:59

Ahri didn't show up again
Moderator Fri 18:00

Poppy votes to lynch Ahri
Twistedfate Fri 18:00

Oh, huh
Poppy Fri 18:00

I'll just assume that it the correct code
Twistedfate Fri 18:00

Never assume
Poppy Fri 18:00

Fair enough
Fri 18:01

But this close to nightfall we can do with a little flexibility if we want to change the lynch around
Fri 18:01

It will be quite annoying if no one is here to verify Vi and/or change the lynch to another person
Twistedfate Fri 18:01

Yeah
Fri 18:01

I'll likely be here for a while
Fri 18:02

If Luc can confirm, even better
Poppy Fri 18:02

So we'd have to get the difference down to 2 votes, it's single-puppet-proof and we get change it rather quickly
Fri 18:02

Snipe votes at this stage seem suicide for the evil in question anyway
Twistedfate Fri 18:03

Vi said "Family stuff"
Fri 18:03

Scary
Fri 18:03

Was that a hint that she was turned?
Fri 18:03

So she was "technically" not lying?
Fri 18:03

PHRASING
Fri 18:05

If she was turned last night into Fam, she'd still know the code, right?
Poppy Fri 18:05

Interesting thought
Fri 18:05

It could be
Twistedfate Fri 18:06

I feel like I sound like Sona now, though
Fri 18:07

I'm going to get into wacky tinfoil land, I can feel it
Poppy Fri 18:10

Haha
Fri 18:11

Yeah, I think that's the intended effect of the evils' actions - get us to distrust the Masons. Paranoia ensues! ;d
Fri 18:28

Anyway, Friday night is calling and I have to answer it. I won't be back, so I'll keep my vote on Ahri, which seems best in this case (so people can change if necessary). Good night :)
Twistedfate Fri 18:52

Oop, I missed it. Have fun!
Fri 18:52

*igh
Fri 18:52

*sigh**
Fri 18:52

Is anyone else here?
Moderator Fri 18:56

Teemo votes to lynch Ahri
Teemo Fri 18:56

Ahri...'splain yourself
Twistedfate Fri 19:00

I don't want it balanced
Fri 19:00

If one more person shows up to vote Ahri, I'll change to her
Fri 19:05

@Brand, we could use your help
Teemo Fri 19:09

Understandable
Brand Fri 19:09

Hmm
Fri 19:09

What are we thinking?
Twistedfate Fri 19:09

I guess we *should* have 2 more + me in case of puppetry
Brand Fri 19:10

Vi could have just thrown out a random word
Twistedfate Fri 19:10

Ahri is the only one who didn't show in mason chat OR give a word today
Fri 19:10

But Vi at least showed up
Brand Fri 19:10

Yeah, but none of the masons have been active
Fri 19:10

Ugh
Twistedfate Fri 19:10

I don't know, on one hand lynching someone who didnt show at all to defend themselves feels wrong
Brand Fri 19:11

Masons are our backbone and they have basically abandoned us
Twistedfate Fri 19:11

on the other, lynching someone who gave a word and nobody was around to confirm or deny feels wrong
Fri 19:11

Lucian was here earlier, and did talk, though
Fri 19:12

Or HE could be the one throwing others under the bus
Fri 19:12

Masons are supposed to be a huge help for village
Fri 19:12

Not in this game
Teemo Fri 19:12

Wait, who didn't give their code? Ahri or vi
Twistedfate Fri 19:12

Ahri
Fri 19:13

Vi have *a* code, maybe not *the* code
Fri 19:13

Anyone in this game, at this point, knows they need to show up in order to verify
Fri 19:13

Ahri didn't
Fri 19:13

I'd rather lynch Ahri
Teemo Fri 19:14

Cant argue w that
Fri 19:14

I agree. We need to lynch ahri instead
Fri 19:14

This game is kinda draining
Fri 19:15

D6 with 14 ppl still alive
Twistedfate Fri 19:16

Mod called it before when it was suggested that VM +Coven would be a good setup
Fri 19:16

He said it would be the longest game
Fri 19:16

Brand, we need to vote Ahri to move forward in this game
Fri 19:16

I can check her
Teemo Fri 19:17

I agree w u about the TR..id love to have one at this point. Figure out what all we're still dealing w
Twistedfate Fri 19:17

Even if it's a mislynch, at this point, it's the better lynch
Fri 19:17

I wonder if GY is even watching
Fri 19:18

@Brand, we have to do this
Fri 19:18

If you're with the village, there's no good reason not to lynch ahri
Fri 19:19

Otherwise I'm going to have to start suspecting you
Fri 19:19

And that'll suck
Moderator Fri 19:19

Brand votes to lynch Vi
Moderator Fri 19:19

Brand votes to lynch Ahri
Twistedfate Fri 19:19

Thanks, homie
Brand Fri 19:20

Ugh, I broke something I think
Twistedfate Fri 19:20

Oh, hell
Fri 19:20

PUPPETS!
Brand Fri 19:20

Lucian now has -1 for me
Moderator Fri 19:20

Twistedfate votes to lynch Ahri
Brand Fri 19:20

Twisted, there's at most one piglet, right?
Fri 19:20

Piglet, wtf
Fri 19:20

Puppet
Twistedfate Fri 19:20

. . . piglet
Fri 19:20

Hahaha
Fri 19:21

Right, I found one in GY
Teemo Fri 19:21

XD
Twistedfate Fri 19:21

I'm going to call puppets piglets from now on
Brand Fri 19:21

XD
Teemo Fri 19:21

Yea why does Lucian have -1?
Fri 19:21

I see it too
Twistedfate Fri 19:22

And Brand has a vote on both vi and Ahri
Fri 19:22

I tink, though, that the official has Ahri with 5, and vi with 4
Moderator Fri 19:23

Brand votes to lynch Lux
Moderator Fri 19:23

Brand votes to lynch Ahri
Twistedfate Fri 19:23

If there's a No!
Fri 19:23

Don't move anything
Brand Fri 19:23

Okay, my vote is definitely on Ahri
Twistedfate Fri 19:23

It won't fix it
Fri 19:23

we need mod intervention, I think
Brand Fri 19:24

It's probably just a UI bug
Twistedfate Fri 19:24

Haha, I literally yelled mid sentence
Brand Fri 19:24

*hopes*
Twistedfate Fri 19:24

It is
Fri 19:24

Or you're a weird puppet
Brand Fri 19:24

I'm a double piglet
Fri 19:24

I get two votes and neither counts
Twistedfate Fri 19:24

So if there's no lynch, someone on Ahri is a puppet
Fri 19:24

haha
Fri 19:24

piglet, sorry
Fri 19:25

We'll have to have mod confirm all votes were where we think they are, though
Fri 19:26

Tomorrow I'd really like to see Graves be lynched, but I know VM takes precedence
Fri 19:28

I still don't understand why, if Jhin wanted out of the game, he didn't just let himself get smited
Fri 19:28

He could have talked without voting
Fri 19:28

Something fushy there
Fri 19:29

fishy, too
Fri 19:29

Maybe he or someone else djinny is taking advantage of the earlier issues
Fri 19:29

We're all ignoring his existence, when he might actually still be in play
Fri 19:30

If that's the case, it's a hell of a strategy
Brand Fri 19:44

Plan for tomorrow: if there is another night with no kills, start lynching the quiet ones?
Twistedfate Fri 19:49

Depends on mason confirmations, I guess
Lynched Fri 20:00

Ahri was lynched by the village
Killed Sat 08:00

Lucian was killed during the night
Orianna Sat 08:02

Noooo Lucian
Poppy Sat 08:02

That's funny
Sat 08:03

Vi, why did you visit Lucian?
Moderator Sat 08:03

Poppy votes to lynch Vi
Orianna Sat 08:03

Oh no
Sat 08:03

I guess it was Vi after all
Poppy Sat 08:04

Yes, definitely
Orianna Sat 08:04

Last night was so lonely only me Lucian
Poppy Sat 08:05

Yeah, masons have been decimated. You're the last one standing
Sat 08:06

And first recruit, ha
Orianna Sat 08:06

What do yu mean by that?
Sat 08:06

Oh yeh lol
Poppy Sat 08:06

I do wonder why Vi went for a kill. Probably she had no recruit left...
Orianna Sat 08:07

Yeh it would be more ideal if she recuit Lucian
Poppy Sat 08:07

Still, she would've been seen visiting `illegally`
Orianna Sat 08:07

Cause she is a mason
Sat 08:07

She cant recuite
Poppy Sat 08:08

But then it would be at least 2 masons vouching for each other
Orianna Sat 08:10

True if she recuited someone in the mason the masons would vouch each orther
Sat 08:11

Anyway her yesterday code was wrong
Vi Sat 08:11

Still busy
Sat 08:11

Orianna, what tze code
Orianna Sat 08:11

Hey look like i am the last lit here ;)
Sat 08:12

Right guys?
Moderator Sat 08:13

Vi votes to lynch Orianna
Vi Sat 08:13

Please verify
Orianna Sat 08:14

Hey i am the only one lit here not you
Sat 08:14

The code was snake for me
Sat 08:14

Yesterday your code was leaves not chanderliers
Sat 08:15

Looks like you have to go to anorther game and start over ;)
Vi Sat 08:15

ok Oriannas Not lit
Moderator Sat 08:15

Orianna votes to lynch Vi
Orianna Sat 08:15

Hey hey sush... sush...
Poppy Sat 08:15

Hi there, Vi
Vi Sat 08:15

Abd
Poppy Sat 08:15

You got anything to say about my accusation?
Orianna Sat 08:16

I am the ONLY ONE who is lit here in this game ;)
Vi Sat 08:16

And obviously Poppy isn't either
Sat 08:17

One day of and suddenly your most trusted players turn evil
Orianna Sat 08:17

No no no Vi body is not lit mine is lit
Vi Sat 08:20

I think Orianna is Sona
Sat 08:21

I'll go back catch up on yesterday
Poppy Sat 08:23

Okay!
Sat 08:23

(I hope Lux joins in to confirm my stalk, that will be helpful)
Sat 08:24

By the way, I had a cheeky peek at the vote count yesterday right before nightfall, and it seemed to be a draw between Vi and Ahri. But I guess this was already recognized by you, right?
Sat 08:32

OK I went through the vote counts, and I confirm: 1 vote for TwistedFate, 4 for Vi, 5 for Ahri. So no puppets on Ahri indeed...
Sat 08:32

(and there was no draw)
Orianna Sat 08:37

But that was a fake code :/ wish Lucian is here to comfirmed
Moderator Sat 09:12

Zilean votes to lynch Vi
Zilean Sat 09:12

Vi tried to be late yesterday so Lucian and Orianna couldn't confirm the code
Sat 10:39

I think it's time to solve the 3 revivers thing
Moderator Sat 11:08

Varus votes to lynch Vi
Varus Sat 11:09

I'm outside, be here later
Brand Sat 13:22

Ah man, weekends are always quiet but I was expecting a bit more from folks today
Sat 13:23

Varus, when you get back you need to tell us if you protected Lucian yesterday
Moderator Sat 13:43

Teemo votes to lynch Vi
Teemo Sat 13:44

What's up
Varus Sat 15:20

I didn't protect lucian last night
Sat 15:20

there is a flood at my place, excuse my inactivity
Lux Sat 16:16

Poppy, you are my soulmate <3
Moderator Sat 16:16

Lux votes to lynch Vi
Lux Sat 16:18

Just in case you guys don't understand. I checked Vi, she visited Lucian.
Sat 16:19

I thought Poppy would check Vi too. But just in case one of us could got killed at night. Better safe
Sat 16:20

Tomorrow pls wait for me, I think it's fair for me to state my check first, Poppy.
Sat 16:21

Where is TF? Did he say his check?
Sat 16:23

Varus, can you list your targets from N1? You can keep last night as secret if you want.
Brand Sat 16:36

Varus, what about N5?
Corki Sat 16:52

erhhh
Sat 16:53

well I was unable to sleep last night
Sat 16:53

:(
Moderator Sat 16:54

Corki votes to lynch Vi
Brand Sat 16:59

Corki?
Sat 16:59

Please clarify, because that sounds like you're claiming insomniac
Corki Sat 17:15

erh... im so confusing now
Sat 17:16

i got a message
Sat 17:16

someone visited me last9
Sat 17:16

p.O
Varus Sat 17:21

n1 lucian, n2 myself, n3 poppy, n4 twistedfate, n5 myself
Sat 17:22

you could turn insomniac when you're purged, corki
Sat 17:22

maybe you could just say who it was
Sat 17:23

@brand, I guarded poppy the night he died, not the night after, I saw your old message seeing that you got my list wrong
Sat 17:23

how do I exactly guard someone who's dead at that current night anyway
Sat 17:24

anyway, this is my last check, see you all
Sat 17:24

not coming back today
Corki Sat 17:33

it was jhin
Sat 17:33

but i only got messages last9
Sat 17:33

the night before there's nothing
Sat 17:34

but ... somebody said that they visited me... i cant remember
Sat 17:34

erhhhh
Sat 17:35

if i turned into insomniac, i think i might get the message right after i get purged
Twistedfate Sat 18:01

Guys! Ahri was VM!
Lux Sat 18:04

Wow. Well done TF <3
Sat 18:05

Corki. What was the message you recived?
Sat 18:06

Was that Jihn visited you? Or You were visitef by Jhin?
Sat 18:07

Varus, did you protect Corki last night?
Poppy Sat 18:11

@Lux: sounds good, you go first tmw. Insomniac Corki and Jhin sleepwalker could be an explanation for this event...
Brand Sat 18:14

Well, hopefully we're lynching the last VM so it probably doesn't matter now
Sat 18:14

Oh wait
Sat 18:14

I missed some chat
Sat 18:15

Ugh, I'm worried now
Sat 18:15

Why would VM(s) not have killed N5?
Sat 18:16

We could assume he/she/it/they hit protection, but that would mean Varus and yet he/she/it/they killed Lucian the next night
Sat 18:17

Why would they target Varus, fail to kill and then decide to change to someone else the following night...
Sat 18:24

Also, Ahri VM really doesn't make sense to me
Sat 18:24

Familiar would make sense, VM really doesn't
Sat 18:28

I'm just gonna say this explicitly because I cba with anyone suggesting that I'm only implying it: right now, I DO NOT want to lynch Vi
Sat 18:29

I'm just on my way home from a workshop, hopefully people will be around before nightfall to discuss this
Poppy Sat 18:48

Brand, I'm a bit busy, so I'll be brief. I think there are two separate issues here. Lux and I both visited Vi.and saw.her go to Lucian. So that's clear sign for evil. Then we have TFs claim, which is another thing...
Twistedfate Sat 18:56

Why doesn't VM make sense, Brand?
Sat 18:58

If Ahri was the last recruit, then Ahri wasn't Ahri anymore, she was Sona, who was whomever jumped into Sona (Pretty sure that's Kass, so Ez. . .) So what's the issue?
Sat 19:01

Starting to think Brand is an enemy here, with his reluctance yesterday to vote for Vi,and again today. Brand could be fam, which means if w lynch Vi, he'll be the new VM
Sat 19:03

So now the question is, do we try to lynch a fam first, or go for the vm and let them hop?
Sat 19:04

Of course, there's no difinitive proof that Brand is fam, either
Sat 19:04

Might just be overly cautious
Brand Sat 19:06

Let me log in to my PC and I'll try to explain
Sat 19:06

Okay, so
Sat 19:07

I'm probably overthinking this, but Twisted, Poppy, Lux, etc - please remember I haven't seen the things you have with my own eyes, so I weight all of those things lower than the "facts" that I've seen
Sat 19:08

And by "facts", I mean things that have happened publicly (although, I'll conceed that they're possibly open to interpretation)
Sat 19:08

So, let's start with Fact #1: Sona was unable to give the mason code on D5
Sat 19:09

Vi /was/ able to give the code on D5, as was Ahri (iirc)
Sat 19:09

(might be wrong about Ahri, need to double check - it's not fully relevant for my point)
Sat 19:10

So, Fact #2: Vi publicly announced Sona's codeword the same day that Sona was unable to provide it
Sat 19:10

this could be coincidence, but honestly, looking back I don't think so... In hindsight the whole situation to me appears staged by Vi to give her an excuse to help Sona out
Twistedfate Sat 19:11

We know that sona and Vi would be on opposing vamp teams, though
Brand Sat 19:11

Fact #3: (okay, this is less "fact", more "strong suspicion") If Sona and Vi were on different Fam teams, Vi couldn't know Sona was a Fam
Twistedfate Sat 19:11

They don't all work together, I believe
Brand Sat 19:12

well, sorry, if Sona was VM at that point
Sat 19:12

because we assume that Sona was the reborn vampire (of Kass, I think?)
Twistedfate Sat 19:12

Yes, that's right
Brand Sat 19:12

so the only was Vi would know Sona was VM was if Sona recruited her
Twistedfate Sat 19:13

But who said Sona didn't speak first, Lucian or Vi?
Brand Sat 19:13

uh, not sure - might need to check back
Twistedfate Sat 19:13

Vi could have simply taken the lead from Lucian if he said it first, and assumed that Sona was some sort of vamp
Brand Sat 19:13

but the point I'm trying to get at is - in this whole chain of events, where does Ahri being VM come in?
Twistedfate Sat 19:13

Ahri was recruited by Sona
Sat 19:14

The last recruit of that VM line
Brand Sat 19:14

Can't be, Sona had to recruit Vi
Twistedfate Sat 19:14

No
Brand Sat 19:14

for reasons I just explained above
Twistedfate Sat 19:14

There are 2 VMs
Brand Sat 19:14

otherwise Vi couldn't know Sona was VM, and even if she did why would VI try to save /the other VM/?
Twistedfate Sat 19:14

I just told you that Vi, like the rest of us, could easily assume based on Lucian saying Sona didn't speak
Sat 19:15

I don't think she tried to save her
Brand Sat 19:15

You think it was coincidence that she blurted out the codeword in chat?
Twistedfate Sat 19:15

Possibly
Sat 19:15

People have been blurting all kinds of craziness in this game
Sat 19:15

Look, Ahri is VM
Sat 19:16

100%
Brand Sat 19:16

okay, so next step then, if Ahri was one VM and Vi is the second... where have all the kills been the last two nights?
Twistedfate Sat 19:16

Pretty sure you were 1 recruit
Sat 19:16

Not sure about the other
Sat 19:16

No kill should = recruit
Brand Sat 19:17

yes, I agree
Twistedfate Sat 19:17

or maybe strategy to make us think there's an extra recruit
Sat 19:17

or VM missed a night
Sat 19:17

We could have a fairly inactive VM, but 2 people saw Vi visit lucian
Sat 19:17

NOW, it's possible that poppy and lux are both vm/fam
Brand Sat 19:18

but we had: N2 -> two recruits, N3 -> at least one recruit?, N4 -> two recruits, N5 -> ???
Sat 19:18

there should only have been at most one recruit left, N5, but two VMs still alive
Sat 19:18

(ugh, I need to brb!)
Twistedfate Sat 19:19

I'm going to guess that ahri was not happy with being recruited/turning vm, and just gave up, honestly
Sat 19:20

Is there a limit on recruits? Is it 3?
Vi Sat 19:21

Coven's making a move
Twistedfate Sat 19:22

Can you elaborate, Vi?
Brand Sat 19:25

Back
Sat 19:25

Yes, pretty sure the limit is three
Vi Sat 19:26

The stalkers banding together to make me look suspicious
Brand Sat 19:26

Vi, why did you try and save Sona t'other day?
Sat 19:27

VM1: Ez -> Kass -> Sona -> Ahri ?
Sat 19:28

VM2: Liss -> ? -> ? -> Vi ?
Vi Sat 19:28

I didn't try to save Sona
Brand Sat 19:28

so you just figured blurting out another mason's codeword in chat was a sensible thing to do?
Sat 19:29

Like, even if I believe you mixed up Ori and Sona's codewords, you didn't need to then point out that "direwolf" was Sona's
Sat 19:29

you could have just said "oh, yeah, I'm wrong my mistake" or something
Vi Sat 19:29

I thought that Orianna wasn't herself
Twistedfate Sat 19:30

But why say the specific word for Sona?
Sat 19:30

Vi, this looks bad for you
Vi Sat 19:30

In hindsight, it was stupid - but it's just what I thought
Brand Sat 19:31

Twisted, my list above is wrong - Liss *can't* be VM2 because she'd have had no chance to recruit before we lynched her
Sat 19:31

so, I'll conceed you might be right if you can give me any possible chain of people that gets VM1 into Ahri and VM2 into Vi
Sat 19:32

that's all I need to trust you D:
Twistedfate Sat 19:40

Sorry, i was looking back at stuff, and I'm afraid I have some issues I need to work through on all of this, and I need everyone to pitch in
Sat 19:41

There couldn't have been any recruiting until N4
Sat 19:41

There were 2 night kills all other days
Sat 19:41

Is there any way that's untrue?
Sat 19:42

all other days prior*
Sat 19:42

VM is only killing role, yes?
Sat 19:43

So how was Ez VM and recruited Kass?
Sat 19:44

Kass was lynched the day before the first recruit was possible
Sat 19:44

(day of)
Brand Sat 19:44

Twisted
Twistedfate Sat 19:44

Yes
Brand Sat 19:44

N2 -> two miltia shots (Ahri and Ori)
Twistedfate Sat 19:45

Please tell me I messed it up
Sat 19:45

FUCK, thank you
Sat 19:45

I didn't account for militia at all
Brand Sat 19:45

N3 -> Poppy *claims* Veigar visited Poppy and Graves, :. implying Poppy is a witch kill
Twistedfate Sat 19:45

My god
Sat 19:45

Yeah, I totally blocked out militia, I'm so glad
Sat 19:46

And alchemist to witch
Sat 19:46

God damn it, I am so ready for this game to be over
Brand Sat 19:47

My biggest problem is that VM cannot die at night
Twistedfate Sat 19:47

Yeah, that's not really a problem, though
Brand Sat 19:47

so the only people who could have been VMs are: Liss, Ez, Kass, Sona, Ahri
Sat 19:47

because those are the only people we've lynched
Twistedfate Sat 19:48

Viktor was smited
Brand Sat 19:48

and we've had hardly any night deaths, so it's really unlikely any "in between" familiars have died
Twistedfate Sat 19:49

So let's put Viktor in VM ->??->??->Vi
Brand Sat 19:49

oh, true
Sat 19:49

but, no
Sat 19:49

can Viktor have been VM, he was seen visiting Sona?
Sat 19:49

OH, wait
Sat 19:50

do we have the chain wrong?
Sat 19:50

Viktor -> ?? -> Sona -> Vi / Ahri
Twistedfate Sat 19:50

Yeah
Brand Sat 19:50

Ez -> Kass -> ?? -> Vi / Ahri
Sat 19:50

?
Twistedfate Sat 19:51

If Viktor visited Sona, then she was the 1st recruit
Brand Sat 19:51

Poppy saw that... N2?
Sat 19:51

or N3?
Twistedfate Sat 19:51

I guess she could have been second
Brand Sat 19:51

it's so difficult to keep track of the days
Twistedfate Sat 19:51

Viktor was smited N3
Brand Sat 19:51

Poppy died N3 too
Twistedfate Sat 19:51

So had to be N2
Brand Sat 19:51

so, timeline doesn't fit, imho
Sat 19:52

we're pretty certain Sona wasn't recruited N2
Twistedfate Sat 19:52

This fucking game. . .
Brand Sat 19:52

so it'd need to be: Viktor -> ?? -> Sona -> X
Sat 19:52

but the only person who was lynched in between those was Kass
Sat 19:52

so that makes it:
Sat 19:53

Ez -> ?? -> ?? -> X
Sat 19:53

Viktor -> Kass -> Sona -> X
Twistedfate Sat 19:53

What if we put poppy and lux in the top slot
Sat 19:53

It's possible all 3 of them are vamp/fam
Brand Sat 19:54

What'ya mean?
Twistedfate Sat 19:55

Ex - Poppy - Lux (end of line since the one night there was only 1 recruit, also you can switch poppy and lux)
Sat 19:55

Ez*
Brand Sat 19:55

mmh, let me check
Sat 19:55

it'd have to have been: Ez -> Lux -> Poppy
Twistedfate Sat 19:55

And Ahri would be end of the line for slot 2
Brand Sat 19:56

because we lynched Ez the night Poppy died, she couldn't die if she was VM
Twistedfate Sat 19:56

Hmm, okay
Brand Sat 19:56

but, also, then, both Poppy and Lux are still alive
Sat 19:56

oh, hmm, but
Twistedfate Sat 19:56

Right, one is fam, the other is VM
Brand Sat 19:56

yeah, hmm, possible
Twistedfate Sat 19:56

Possible, yes
Sat 19:56

I have no idea how probable
Brand Sat 19:56

Poppy was initially suspicious of Lux, but later Lux "confirmed" her?
Twistedfate Sat 19:57

Now they're buddies
Sat 19:57

But we could also put you and Vi in those top slots
Sat 19:57

still that one missing recruit
Brand Sat 19:58

yeah, that one recruit is bugging me
Twistedfate Sat 19:58

You were really kind of adamant about not voting Vi yesterday
Sat 19:58

That does make me distrust you some
Sat 19:58

I really want you to be lit
Sat 19:58

it sucks that you might not be
Brand Sat 19:59

Such is life :<
Twistedfate Sat 19:59

I wanted Kass to be lit, too, though
Sat 19:59

We see how that went
Sat 19:59

Then we have to account for the fucking coven, too
Lynched Sat 20:00

Vi was lynched by the village
Twistedfate Sun 08:01

Morning, all
Sun 08:01

As suspected, Vi was Fam
Sun 08:02

I think we need to look at Brand, as sad as that makes me
Sun 08:03

His defense/unwillingness to vote her makes him my top suspect right now
Brand Sun 08:03

Hmmmmm
Sun 08:03

I mean, totally get where you're coming from but if Vi was VM / Fam, why was there no kill last night?
Twistedfate Sun 08:04

So you could ask that question, presumably
Sun 08:05

I don't relish it, believe me
Sun 08:05

But what are the other options?
Brand Sun 08:05

mmh, why both?
Sun 08:05

bother*
Twistedfate Sun 08:05

Vi was fam, so who is VM now?
Brand Sun 08:05

ugh, that's the question: Corki / Varus / Ori?
Sun 08:05

Lux / Poppy?
Sun 08:06

Why the hell didn't Teemo revive Lucian?
Sun 08:06

(Spoilers: he's probably not really a reviver)
Moderator Sun 08:06

Brand votes to lynch Teemo
Twistedfate Sun 08:06

You think Lux or Poppy is VM after yesterday, with Vi showing as fam?
Brand Sun 08:06

Lux *could* be
Sun 08:06

Poppy, maybe not
Twistedfate Sun 08:07

If Teemo is evil, I'd peg him for coven
Brand Sun 08:07

after all, Lux just turned up and basically said "what Poppy said"
Sun 08:07

and yeah, true
Poppy Sun 08:08

Hiya. I've got info to share, but I'll give Lux the chance to go first.
Brand Sun 08:08

Teemo could have been coven hoping to re-roll Witch and just got a bad role
Sun 08:08

Poppy, is it juicy info? :3
Twistedfate Sun 08:08

Hi, Poppy, sounds good
Sun 08:08

I'm going to be going to sleep in a few, but I'll have time to read back once i wake up
Brand Sun 08:09

G'night Twisted, sleep well!
Sun 08:09

Make sure to put some garlic around your bed ;)
Twistedfate Sun 08:10

Will do, and I'll eat a clove, too, just in case XD
Sun 08:10

G'night
Moderator Sun 08:11

Twistedfate votes to lynch Brand
Poppy Sun 08:36

It's not too juicy today; I didn't see an illegal visit, but I did see a visit that confirms somebody.
Sun 08:36

So that's something...
Varus Sun 09:50

no kill last night concerns me
Sun 09:50

because I know whom I protected
Brand Sun 10:26

Hmmm
Corki Sun 12:00

no one visited me last9
Graves Sun 13:02

sorry ill yesterday and still dont feel well today so i will place what i think is safe vote and hope be back tomorrow
Moderator Sun 13:02

Graves votes to lynch Twistedfate
Brand Sun 13:02

Corki, Teemo, Varus, I'd like your thoughts on the other players
Sun 13:02

Oh Graves too
Sun 13:03

Twisted and I have both been very vocal in our suspicions, Poppy too but maybe more controlled in her accusations
Sun 13:04

The rest of you have been kind of restrained in making accusations
Sun 13:04

I'd like to know who you all suspect
Poppy Sun 13:21

@Varus: I also know who you protected, I understand your concern.
Moderator Sun 13:21

Poppy votes to lynch Graves
Poppy Sun 13:22

Lynching Graves and verifying TF is my suggestion for today/tonight.
Orianna Sun 13:26

Lonely Night :'(
Brand Sun 13:31

:(
Varus Sun 13:45

though we're chasing for one last vamp, how many covens do we think we still got to handle?
Poppy Sun 13:49

Disturbing question in the meantime: N10 limited-use abilities are reset. Does this count for VM as well? *looks up in terror at the divine sky, trying to find a clue from the modgod*
Sun 13:49

Anyone knows how it works for regular Vamp?
Varus Sun 14:03

lux needs to talk
Sun 14:03

though he usually comes late
Lux Sun 14:19

I am a "she", Varus
Sun 14:19

I have a very interesting news lol
Moderator Sun 14:19

Lux votes to lynch Teemo
Lux Sun 14:21

Guys? Anyone?
Brand Sun 14:27

Hi Lux
Lux Sun 14:27

hello brand
Sun 14:27

where's everyone?
Brand Sun 14:28

What's your inreresting news?
Sun 14:28

and it's a weekend, everyone is busy
Lux Sun 14:28

I stalked Teemo, wanted to see him revive Lucian
Brand Sun 14:29

But he didn't revive Lucian
Lux Sun 14:29

but no, he didn't. He visited Corki
Brand Sun 14:29

wut
Sun 14:29

that makes no sense
Lux Sun 14:30

Im trying to explain too
Sun 14:30

Corki said nobody visited him last night
Sun 14:31

So, either Teemo VM tried to recruit Corki
Sun 14:32

or a coven tried to visit Corki
Brand Sun 14:32

but what does that make Corki?
Lux Sun 14:32

but if Corki's lit, he should have seen Teemo visited him
Sun 14:32

Im thinking if Teemo Vamp -> Corki Fam
Sun 14:33

If Teemo witch -> Corki couldnt be killed (vamp or recruited fam)
Sun 14:33

I don't think an other coven role would visit Corki
Sun 14:37

Lucian was killed last night, so if a reviver revived him, Djinn's swapped wouldnt take affect.
Poppy Sun 14:45

That's some good stuff you got there! Juicier than I have for today
Sun 14:45

Let's start with Teemo then
Moderator Sun 14:45

Poppy votes to lynch Teemo
Lux Sun 14:46

What about your result Poppy?
Poppy Sun 14:46

Now I can state my result a bit clearer; as said, I stalked Varus. His visit pretty much confirms that he's (still) a Protector!
Lux Sun 14:46

Did you visit Varus?
Sun 14:47

Are you sure that's not a Stalker-fam or something alike?
Sun 14:48

I still couldn't explain why no kill for many nights, Poppy
Sun 14:48

any idea?
Poppy Sun 14:49

No, I'm pretty sure
Lux Sun 14:49

I guess protector's protect is fit. But if vamps hit protection once, they just need to go on the same target
Sun 14:49

or just recruit the protector
Poppy Sun 14:50

I guess if there was a killing attempt last night, they know whom they hit anyway. So I might as well speak up about the visit?
Lux Sun 14:50

I think you should
Poppy Sun 14:50

Ok, Varus visited themselves. So that's pretty clear a sign of Protectorness to me
Lux Sun 14:51

and just in case, Varus can verify you too, but I think it wasn't necessary
Poppy Sun 14:51

Indeed
Lux Sun 14:51

obv
Poppy Sun 14:51

Although he already hinted at what kind of visit we would have to expect
Lux Sun 14:52

never doubt him
Sun 14:52

but it was strange that they left a protector and 2 stalkers alive
Sun 14:52

really strange
Poppy Sun 14:52

Definitely
Sun 14:53

I didn't expect to live this long (after having been killed once already)
Lux Sun 14:53

and a GD too
Sun 14:53

unless they are in a very safe position
Poppy Sun 14:54

I just can't imagine there's a big evil group hiding all this time :o
Lux Sun 14:55

it's D8. Is it true that in N10 all limited used power will have a lovely f5?
Sun 14:57

Ok, sunday night's calling. I won't be back. Pls make sure we lynch Tee. I think you and me should stalk people in"safe-zone"
Sun 14:58

Bye <3
Twistedfate Sun 14:58

Seriously, is everyone just ignoring Brand's behavior last 2 days with outright REFUSING to vote for Vi?
Sun 14:58

Teemo and Corki are coven
Sun 14:58

We're not chasing coven yet
Sun 14:58

VM is waaaay more important
Lux Sun 14:59

Poppy and I will think about stalking him tmr, TF
Twistedfate Sun 14:59

That's ridiculous
Brand Sun 14:59

Can I just point out something?
Twistedfate Sun 14:59

Why would you lynch coven before a very probable VM?
Brand Sun 14:59

When we lynch a VM, they come back instantly in the familiar's body
Sun 15:00

meaning if I was Famliar, and Vi was VM, "Brand" would actually now be whoever was originally Vi (well, presumably whoever was originally Ez or Viktor or whatever)
Lux Sun 15:00

Teemo can be a Vamp who tried to recruit Corki too, TF
Twistedfate Sun 15:00

Unless there hasn't been another recruit, like maybe someone protecting themselves ladt night
Sun 15:01

last*
Lux Sun 15:01

Hum... agreed
Moderator Sun 15:01

Lux votes to lynch Brand
Brand Sun 15:01

>.<
Twistedfate Sun 15:01

Yes, Brand, you would not be Brand right now
Lux Sun 15:02

can we stand a mislynch?
Twistedfate Sun 15:02

Yes, there's still 10 (or 9?) people
Lux Sun 15:03

I don't think so, we don't know how many covens left
Moderator Sun 15:03

Lux votes to lynch Teemo
Lux Sun 15:03

I'll go with Teemo
Twistedfate Sun 15:03

JFC
Lux Sun 15:03

Brand can be an evil or just confused, but I'm sure Teemo's a evil
Sun 15:03

Poppy and I will take care of him tonight
Brand Sun 15:03

*gasp*
Twistedfate Sun 15:03

"Just confused"
Sun 15:03

Really?
Brand Sun 15:04

Not the C-word!
Lux Sun 15:04

If he was fam/vamp, he can only kill one of us
Sun 15:04

not both
Brand Sun 15:04

I'd take #paranoid over "confused", if it's all the same with you
Twistedfate Sun 15:04

Cool, give him one more night to defninitely recruit. . .
Brand Sun 15:05

Again, though, I could only recruit one stalker
Sun 15:05

so worst case, the other would know who I recruited
Twistedfate Sun 15:05

And?
Sun 15:05

So we waste a day
Brand Sun 15:05

(but you won't ever see me visiting, 'cause I can't visit)
Sun 15:06

But I'm just gonna keep coming back to the point I made before - I think we can all agree that I sound like the Brand from the start of the game because I'm still the same person I've always been
Sun 15:06

My body, if you will, is still mine
Sun 15:06

I definitely don't have Vi inside me
Twistedfate Sun 15:07

Then explain yesterday, Brand
Lux Sun 15:07

you found a vamp, which means Vamp/fam can only kill one of the 2 stalkers. Plus we have protector, he can protect one of us
Twistedfate Sun 15:07

Yoiu were pretty adamant about not lynching Vi
Sun 15:07

*sigh*
Sun 15:08

It's not like any of you are going to listen to me regardless
Brand Sun 15:08

Twisted, as I said before #paranoid
Sun 15:08

If I was evil, I don't think I'd have been quite so overt about it
Lux Sun 15:08

@Poppy: please stalk Brand
Sun 15:08

Gotta go, bye guys
Twistedfate Sun 15:09

Also, IF I get recruited at this point, I'll likely let myself get smited
Brand Sun 15:09

and ultimately, my opinion didn't matter so all I did was make myself look worse - think I would have risked that if I was the Familiar?
Twistedfate Sun 15:09

Fuck that
Sun 15:10

I can't presume to know what you'd do, Brand
Brand Sun 15:10

Well, would *you* have done it?
Twistedfate Sun 15:10

I don't trust anyone in this game at all
Brand Sun 15:10

my paranoia is infectious :3
Twistedfate Sun 15:10

No idea what I would have done
Sun 15:11

I do, however, keep laughing every time I see Graves vote for me
Sun 15:11

every day it's just *boop*
Sun 15:11

Thanks for contributing to the game, buddy
Brand Sun 15:12

Oh yeah, I completely forgot he accused you of being familiar o_0
Twistedfate Sun 15:13

Good ol' Graves
Brand Sun 15:13

Twisted, can I make a suggestion (but, I'm fully aware you probably won't trust it :D) - whoever we lynch tonight, I think you should consider checking Viktor or Jhin
Sun 15:13

probably Viktor
Twistedfate Sun 15:14

I appreciate the suggestion, it's not a bad one, but I don't know if leaving the fresh lynch unchecked with much coven around is wise
Sun 15:15

But yeah, Viktor is still a prime original vm candidate
Corki Sun 17:13

ohm, I just remembered something
Sun 17:15

If after purging, I turned into an Insomniac, it mean that I would know if somebody visited me a night
Sun 17:15

but I didn't receive the message that Poppy visited me
Sun 17:16

(*at night)
Sun 17:16

hmhmmm
Sun 17:17

well Poppy or Lux...( damn, i need to read back who said visited me o.O)
Poppy Sun 17:21

@Corki: I've never visited you. So maybe Lux?
Sun 17:23

(I guess it's also convenient that, if you are turned evil, you're now trying to cast shade on one of us - so I take your statement with a grain of salt)
Twistedfate Sun 17:30

Corki, what are you talking about?'
Teemo Sun 18:08

Alright lux is completely not lit
Sun 18:08

I only read up to where she said i visited
Sun 18:08

I'm still reviver and i can still revive
Sun 18:08

I can prove it tonight
Moderator Sun 18:08

Teemo votes to lynch Lux
Teemo Sun 18:09

I couldn't have visited bc i don't have a visiting role
Sun 18:09

Now going back to read more
Sun 18:16

Hope you guys come back to fix the vote or hear me out...
Sun 18:23

Let's not forget Brand revived his buddy graves even though revivers were told not to revive
Sun 18:26

My guess is that horrible gd reveal happened. TF and jhin accurately saw graves as seer, and the next night he was djinn swapped and brand revives bc he knows he's been swapped
Brand Sun 18:35

Teemo, I wasn't told not to revive
Sun 18:35

It was Zi who revived Poppy despite being told not to
Teemo Sun 18:46

Honestly, you both revived without instruction
Sun 18:46

And so why aren't u voting Zi then?
Sun 18:47

I can still revive. And if i was coven i would've used my power on a team mate already.
Sun 18:48

I know for sure Lux is lying tho so that's where my vote goes
Sun 18:48

Next its between you or Zi bc one of you aren't a real reviver
Sun 18:49

If its Zi then that also means Poppy is no good, which could be possible
Brand Sun 19:15

Teemo, well, originally I just stuck a vote on you because I figured if I was in your position I'd have revived Lucian without question
Teemo Sun 19:18

Considering there's still coven alive, there's still a risk of djinn swap
Poppy Sun 19:18

Not if you revive first night after death
Sun 19:18

I mean, someone else might come online, but definitely a mason can be checked in the night
Sun 19:18

I mean to say: the Djinn-swap may happen
Sun 19:19

you revive the right person, with different name
Teemo Sun 19:19

Esp. Since lux said she was hoping id revive lucian. Id bet she hoped that bc they prob swapped him w another coven
Sun 19:19

And then she lied about my visit so something is up w that
Poppy Sun 19:19

Lux has confirmed one of my visits that she couldn't have guessed, so that's why I trust her now
Teemo Sun 19:19

Or you trust her bc you're working together
Poppy Sun 19:20

yes, that's another explanation :)
Teemo Sun 19:20

Idk what else to say. I don't have visiting power. period
Sun 19:20

And I'm telling you i CAN still revive
Sun 19:22

Welp I have no other argument. If y'all can afford a mislynch than so be it. I'm ready to be out of this game
Sun 19:23

Good luck village. And keep an eye on zi and brand bc one is the false reviver
Sun 19:23

Idk which one but we'll find out soon enough
Poppy Sun 19:30

Thanks, Teemo. I'll take your testimony into account!
Lynched Sun 20:00

Teemo was lynched by the village
Killed Mon 08:00

Twistedfate was killed during the night
Brand Mon 08:05

Well, that's certainly interesting
Mon 08:06

(1) Varus, why didn't you protect Twisted last night (2) Corki, did anyone visit you (3) Poppy, Lux, did either / both of you stalk me?
Moderator Mon 08:09

Brand votes to lynch Graves
Brand Mon 08:09

(4) If Twisted was Familiar, who the fuck killed him, Graves?
Poppy Mon 08:25

@(3): Brand, worried that we caught you in the act?
Brand Mon 08:28

Poppy, not at all, I know if you did then you saw me not visit
Poppy Mon 08:28

Just teasing you
Mon 08:28

Frankly, suddenly having a kill again N8 makes me paranoid as shit
Brand Mon 08:28

But I'm aware Twisted was very much against me yesterday and so him dying instantly makes me look worse
Mon 08:29

And yeah, it's weird
Poppy Mon 08:29

There are a few people that I can rule out because of recent checks. The problem is that every person's validity decays so quickly because of VM ;o
Brand Mon 08:30

I wonder if the vampire intended to lay low, make us think they were all gone, but then realised with Twisted around that won't work
Mon 08:30

So they had to kill him?
Poppy Mon 08:30

Indeed
Mon 08:30

Okay, so here's my thoughts on people
Mon 08:30

oh wait, brb
Mon 08:30

come back ot that
Brand Mon 08:31

You've 100% confirmed Varus, right Poppy?
Mon 08:31

Like, there's no way he's evil if you're not?
Poppy Mon 08:31

I cannot explain a self-protect any other way at the moment
Mon 08:32

It's at least not Vamp/Fam
Brand Mon 08:32

Yeah, okay, so he's protected himself t'other night, so he was a safe kill last night
Poppy Mon 08:32

Could be Coven, alchemified to, mmzz.. Shaman?
Brand Mon 08:32

But vampire went for Twisted instead
Mon 08:32

Hmm
Mon 08:32

Ooooooooh
Mon 08:33

Teemo coven, Varus shaman, and then what?
Mon 08:33

How was there a kill?
Mon 08:33

A witch?
Mon 08:33

Or phantom wolf from the lure totem?
Poppy Mon 08:34

Graves is likely to be coven but very unlikely to be related to VM. Orianna and Zilean, for example, have been in the shadows for a while now - could they be recruited in the meantime?
Brand Mon 08:35

Hmm, could Ori have been recruited without the other masons knowing?
Mon 08:35

Vi suggested she was evil, but I don't think we can trust anything she said?
Mon 08:36

Lucian seemed to trust Ori the day before he died, so I don't think she could have been turned before then?
Poppy Mon 08:36

indeed
Mon 08:36

Okay, we should rethink recruit amounts perhaps to consider what is even possible Fam-wise :o
Brand Mon 08:37

We assume Zi can't have been recruited before he revived you, maybe he could have been recruited that same night?
Poppy Mon 08:37

But it's so hard to come with anything concrete/certain in that regard
Mon 08:37

Indeed
Mon 08:37

or some time after
Brand Mon 08:37

He left it quite late (like, an entire day) before taking ownership of your revive
Poppy Mon 08:38

Indeed
Brand Mon 08:38

What if he revived you and was turned, then hoped by not claiming you'd look suspicious and get lynched?
Mon 08:38

Then when that didn't work, thought it was better to have the "confirmed reviver" badge?
Poppy Mon 08:38

It's an option
Brand Mon 08:39

I'm literally just throwing out ideas here :/
Poppy Mon 08:39

I'm thinking now that we may see kills every night from now on, and intel is being targeted, we need to lynch fast
Mon 08:39

Perhaps Graves is not the best option, but we go for somebody who's less likely to be evil, but if they're evil it's worse - if you know what I mean
Mon 08:40

So Zilean/Orianna would be my 2 suggestion for today
Mon 08:40

Perhaps Zilean first
Mon 08:42

N10 we should get some abilities back: Orianna's militia, Brand/Zilean's revives. Both are rather risky abilities at this moment (revives + Djinn, and militia is also a cover for evil killing ability)
Lux Mon 08:51

I have no reasons to be coven
Mon 08:52

because I am claiming swap, right now, at this second
Mon 08:52

varus speaking
Mon 08:52

a coven wouldn't claim swap
Mon 08:54

I want to hear from corki if anyone visited him last night
Moderator Mon 08:55

Lux votes to lynch Graves
Lux Mon 08:56

so I can confirm you guys that a djinn is alive
Mon 08:58

I think orianna and zilean could be good options too, the djinn might've just swapped two lit intels for confusion rather than for finding a shelter
Mon 08:58

I mean, two lit power roles
Mon 08:58

protector isn't an intel, what am I saying
Mon 08:59

but even with what I just said, still consider the now varus-previous lux
Mon 09:00

maybe I'll move my vote so it's unpiled for now, let's decide this more carefully
Moderator Mon 09:00

Lux votes to lynch Orianna
Poppy Mon 09:04

One way or another, here are the signs of the evils` final stand, I guess.
Mon 09:11

Not sure what to think about this. The whole game we've seen little Djinn-swaps amongst the living (I think Veigar had to be swapped if both my account of their double visit and the GDs account of them being Puppet being true, but other than that I cannot think of anything).
Mon 09:11

Also: @Lux - if you're not coven because 'a coven wouldn't claim swap', it's a reason why coven would claim swap. See why point?
Mon 09:12

Now I checked Varus the other day and his self-visit can only be explained by 2 coven roles (Alch/Shaman), so it's not necessary likely, but I can't rule it out at this point.
Zilean Mon 09:12

Why am I evil now?
Moderator Mon 09:13

Zilean votes to lynch Graves
Zilean Mon 09:14

TF could be a witch kill
Poppy Mon 09:14

You haven't done anything that proves you're good, and with VMs in the game that means your validity automatically decays - there are a lot of nights between your revive (which you claimed strangely late) and now, in which you could've been recruited.
Mon 09:14

So not saying you're evil, but we have little knowledge about you now. That's all
Mon 09:14

And I agree with TF possibly being a witch kill.
Mon 09:16

With Lux hinting about Corki's night report, I'm also curious to hear from him by the way!
Mon 09:21

We have a minimum of two evils at the moment. A killing evil (VM/Witch) + a Djinn (Varus/Lux) OR two people lying about a Djinn-swap (Varus/Lux), whereby one of them has the ability to kill (TF).
Mon 09:22

A killing evil (VM/Witch) because TF was killed, and a Djinn because Varus and Lux were swapped. The way I used the parantheses for different purposes in my previous sentence is perhaps misleading... ;)
Orianna Mon 10:31

Me is stil me :v
Moderator Mon 10:32

Orianna votes to lynch Graves
Orianna Mon 10:33

I hope I get my power back
Lux Mon 10:38

other than to cast suspicion on me, I can't figure out why I was a good swap for the djinn to even consider
Mon 10:39

lux and varus' get online at completely different time of the day
Mon 10:39

wait, is that meta?
Orianna Mon 10:39

No
Brand Mon 11:45

Hmmmm, a Djinn swap this late in the game is quite weird... Why bother unless coven expected either Lux or Varus to die?
Mon 11:46

And that would imply that one of those two (which ever was expected to not die, I guess?) is coven too?
Poppy Mon 11:54

Interesting. Let me check some stuff
Mon 12:09

Okay, I have done some research and I am eager to share some of my findings with you. But first, I will leave it to Lux-now-Varus(?) to speak up, and also I want to hear Corki out. Corki, please confirm whether you were visited last night, and for the record please give an overview of all visits since you were purged to insomnia.
Brand Mon 13:07

So, I don't think last night can be a coven kill
Poppy Mon 13:08

Why not?
Brand Mon 13:08

I think we have only two options: (a) Twisted was GD; (b) Twisted was Familiar
Poppy Mon 13:08

Yes
Brand Mon 13:09

If Twisted was Familiar, I think at this point in the hands he'd have to have been the VM (we've got too many familiars in the GY?) so that makes him night immune
Mon 13:09

The game *
Poppy Mon 13:10

Yeah - it's not a waterproof argument, but it seems reasonable.
Mon 13:10

I have to leave for now, we'll get back to this point
Brand Mon 13:11

If he's GD, that makes Vi a Familiar as claimed - so either VM is still out there (where's their kill?) or it was Teemo (why would coven kill the GD)
Corki Mon 13:18

hey guys
Mon 13:18

funny, seems somebody wanna check me xD
Mon 13:19

ok, im unable to sleep last9, again, Poppy
Mon 13:19

poppy visited me last9
Mon 13:20

and let me guess, Poppy, I stayed at home all night long
Mon 13:20

;)
Mon 13:22

alright....After purging at N4, I only have 2 visitors: N6 was Jhin and N8 was Poppy
Mon 13:23

no one visited me N5 and N7
Mon 13:23

so if Lux said she visited me N5 =>>> she lied
Poppy Mon 14:00

@Corki: thanks for the confirmation of my visit. I confirm you were in your bed, awake, all night
Mon 14:00

I am building a case against Lux atm :)
Moderator Mon 14:12

Corki votes to lynch Graves
Poppy Mon 14:14

Alright, here we go.
Mon 14:14

Anyone here to talk with me?
Lux Mon 14:21

corki
Mon 14:21

was poppy the only visitor last night?
Mon 14:22

confirm this
Mon 14:23

it'll help me think who are the evils
Poppy Mon 14:23

In case Corki's not showing up... LuxVarus, are you going to contest this?
Lux Mon 14:24

I can't stay for long, so in fact, I'm not even going to wait for his confirmation
Mon 14:25

I'm gonna give him like, some more minutes
Poppy Mon 14:25

Okay
Lux Mon 14:30

time's up
Mon 14:31

I protected corki last night, he is either fam, vamp or coven if he didn't see my visit
Brand Mon 14:31

*bzzzzzz*
Lux Mon 14:32

his list is unreliable now
Mon 14:32

to me at least
Brand Mon 14:32

Because?
Mon 14:32

You protected him last night?
Lux Mon 14:32

.......read up
Brand Mon 14:32

I scanned, I think I got the general idea
Lux Mon 14:33

don't be this ignorant, it's literally above your head
Brand Mon 14:33

Oh, sorry, my page didn't refresh
Poppy Mon 14:33

And it makes total sense to protect Corki, of course
Mon 14:33

(you should activate your sarcasm sensors for this last sentence)
Brand Mon 14:33

I had nothing between "times up" and my *bzzzzz*
Poppy Mon 14:34

Okay, I've made up my mind.
Mon 14:34

Lux and Varus are our enemies.
Brand Mon 14:34

I was wondering if Corki was just bluffing based on what Poppy said
Poppy Mon 14:35

I didn't make strong hints, I believe
Brand Mon 14:35

Poppy, both of them?
Poppy Mon 14:35

I think so.
Brand Mon 14:35

Oh, right I think I see
Mon 14:35

But, um
Lux Mon 14:35

I didn't see twistedfate requesting for protection, also, what is wrong with protecting a village and also confirming one?
Brand Mon 14:35

Doesn't stalker see insomniac visit themselves?
Poppy Mon 14:35

Nope
Mon 14:35

It's an exception
Mon 14:35

I know this 100% sure :)
Brand Mon 14:35

Okay, cool
Mon 14:36

So, question is, Lux vs Varus.. Both evil? Both coven?
Poppy Mon 14:36

There are several questions we need to address.
Brand Mon 14:36

Mmmh, wait
Poppy Mon 14:36

First of all: what would Teemo be if they really visited Corki?
Lux Mon 14:36

a village, probably
Poppy Mon 14:37

Coven: Alch/Shaman/Succ (doesn't make sense) or Witch/Djinn (is impossible).
Lux Mon 14:37

an alchemist transmuting friend has no reason to come out about the visit
Brand Mon 14:37

Could be witch
Poppy Mon 14:37

Vamp: recruit (possible, unlikely), kill (impossible)
Brand Mon 14:37

Maybe they tried to kill Corki and failed?
Mon 14:37

Oh, wait
Lux Mon 14:37

you cannot recruit a coven
Brand Mon 14:37

Ignore me
Mon 14:37

I'm getting this all backwards
Mon 14:38

I'm gonna finish my work and then leave and actually concentrate on all this x_x
Lux Mon 14:38

corki has reasons to lie, so he is marked evil to me, and if he is evil, he can't be recruited, but he didn't die, so, teemo should have been a village
Poppy Mon 14:38

So then we shoudl kill Varus, right?
Mon 14:38

Because Lux-now-Varus was lying?
Mon 14:38

Because Teemo claimed reviver, so couldn't have been seen visiting...
Lux Mon 14:39

yeah, a reviver can only visit the dead ones
Poppy Mon 14:39

Indeed
Moderator Mon 14:39

Poppy votes to lynch Varus
Lux Mon 14:39

was teemo purged?
Moderator Mon 14:39

Lux votes to lynch Varus
Poppy Mon 14:39

Nope
Lux Mon 14:39

we need.... at least two more votes, assuming we can get someone to move from grave
Mon 14:40

if a swap was needed, he's probably more important to be alive than grave, more reasons we should kill him
Moderator Mon 14:40

Zilean votes to lynch Varus
Lux Mon 14:41

brand, we need you
Mon 14:41

or this is a balance
Poppy Mon 14:41

Okay, so it may be possible that Lux is really Varus and is really lit. It may also be possible they're both evil. Let me at least present more on what I have on Lux(-now-Varus?)
Mon 14:42

N1: Warwick - no visit. Uncontested because Warwick wasn't active at all. Worst case: a Puppet scenario/good luck that Warwick didn't speak up.
Mon 14:42

N2: missed check. Worst case: evil.
Mon 14:43

N3: Poppy - Veigar. Worst case: good guess, and/or a way to frame me as Veigar's killer. It's convenient that I was dead anyway and couldn't contest. Note: this is the hardest to explain in another way than Lux being a real Stalker, but it could be so.
Mon 14:43

N4: TF visited Veigar. This was simply already stated by TF, so no new info.
Mon 14:44

N5: Corki - no visit. If Corki was purged, this was to be expected (even more if you're part of the coven, because you know for sure Corki was pruged). Note: this visit wasn't seen by Corki, as Insomniac.
Mon 14:44

N6: Vi - Lucian. This was simply already stated by me, so no new info.
Mon 14:44

N7: Teemo - Corki. Contested by Teemo.
Mon 14:44

N8: yet to come.
Mon 14:45

The problem I have with this list is that, other than N3, nothing is confirmed/new/really confirming Lux.
Mon 14:45

It's also convenient that our Gravedigger dies after Teemo dies. Perhaps Lux's false accusation on Teemo wasn't to be exposed by TF?
Lux Mon 14:45

to me, teemo can't be anything but village now, and if it is true, I feel sorry for him
Mon 14:46

because of that lynch
Poppy Mon 14:46

It's also convenient that we have a Djinn-swap claim with the Revivers almost having their ability again. It's because of a Djinn-swap-claim we wouldn't want to revive again, which is convenient for those who don't want, for example, TwistedFate to expose Lux.
Mon 14:47

I was also asking myself: what evidence of Djinn have we seen? The only evidence of Djinn I see is N3, me seeing Veigar as a witch (based on visits) and TwistedFate seeing them the night after as Puppet. So it's a Djinn then and there, or TwistedFate was lying.
Mon 14:47

Do we have any other evidence or Djinn-swaps occurring?
Lux Mon 14:48

I don't think so? what happened to the three GDs incident?
Mon 14:48

what concerns me now though, it's that what if a vamp is still alive? we're catching only covens here and there and everywhere
Poppy Mon 14:48

About Stalker claims: we shouldn't forget we had 3 Stalkers to start with. I am one, naturally. There are 2 others, which means that out of Kassadin, Corki, and Lux one is lying.
Mon 14:49

We haven't addressed this issue lately, I feel.
Lux Mon 14:49

corki is definitely lying
Poppy Mon 14:49

I'm hesitant to believe that.
Lux Mon 14:49

but it could be that he's lying as a useless fam, or a djinn, since he didn't visit
Mon 14:51

but if we're dealing with a witch, as you mentioned about the convenient deaths, doesn't that mean they're about to get their potions refreshed too?
Mon 14:52

this..... could be very dangerous
Poppy Mon 14:52

Yes, a Witch would get potions as well
Lux Mon 14:53

you're here to unblance if it's required, right?
Mon 14:53

I'm about to leave soon
Poppy Mon 14:53

Go on then
Mon 14:54

I'm here
Corki Mon 15:03

sorry, my record was only Poppy
Mon 15:03

i dont trust you Lux
Mon 15:05

if Temoo said he also visited me , so he lied too
Mon 15:05

all record I have are Jhin and Poppy
Mon 15:07

so now who is the potential lynch
Brand Mon 15:18

*reads back*
Mon 15:22

Still reading but I'm not sure we get our abilities back on D10 you know
Mon 15:22

I'm aware that it was discussed, but I don't think it's guaranteed?
Mon 15:25

Love how Zi slips in to drop a vote but doesn't add anything
Mon 15:28

This is a wonderful choice we've got going btw guys
Moderator Mon 15:29

Brand votes to lynch Lux
Zilean Mon 15:37

Brand, you want varus (lux) to balance the votes later?
Poppy Mon 15:37

@Corki: Teemo didn't say he visited you, he was accused of visitng you by Lux
Zilean Mon 15:37

I think its better if you put a vote on varus brand
Poppy Mon 15:38

@Brand: I think it happened before in very extensive games, abilities being reset
Mon 15:38

Zilean
Mon 15:38

Please tell us a bit more what you think about who's suspicious
Zilean Mon 15:39

I think evils are varus, graves and maybe brand
Mon 15:39

On my phone right now so Im lazy at typing
Brand Mon 15:40

Zi, I'll put my vote where I want it
Mon 15:40

And right now, I want it on Lux
Poppy Mon 15:41

Why?
Mon 15:42

Admittedly, we still need to hear from Varus
Brand Mon 15:42

Reasons ;)
Poppy Mon 15:42

(or Lux, maybe, if you know what I mean)
Brand Mon 15:42

Hehe
Mon 15:42

Fucking Djinns
Mon 15:43

Zi, only way we can get a balance is 4-4 or 2-2-2-2
Mon 15:44

So, no, I'm not putting it there for balance
Mon 15:45

I'm wondering if it's possible that Varus is dead
Poppy Mon 15:47

How would that work, then?
Brand Mon 15:49

Well tl:dr I have no idea (yet) but... coven's main power is causing trouble, and that is exactly what Lux is doing today, and to some extent in previous days too
Mon 15:50

Previously she claimed Teemo visited Corki, Corki and Teemo both contradict; today she claims to have been swapped *and* to have visited Corki last night and again he contradicts
Mon 15:52

Out of Corki and Varus, you've given me a strong reason to believe Varus was really the protector, and we knew he couldn't self protect last night
Poppy Mon 15:54

Good point
Mon 15:55

In that case, Varus will surely contradict Lux's assertion that there has been a Djinn-swap.
Mon 15:55

If so, we'll get to Lux, definitely.
Brand Mon 15:55

We definitely need to hear from a Varus
Mon 15:56

But either way, at least one (probably two) of Lux / Varus / Corki must be evil
Mon 15:56

If there was a swap, both now-Lux and now-Varus contradict Corki separability
Mon 15:56

Uh, separately
Mon 15:57

If there wasn't a swap, then only still-Lux contradicts
Poppy Mon 15:59

I agree that 1/2 are evil
Mon 16:00

And I'm not sure who to believe yet, let's hear from Varus
Brand Mon 16:00

However, right now what stood out most to me (and the reason I placed my vote, although I suspect I did it too late for the effect I wanted) was that despite Corki and Lux being at odds, Corki still voted Lux
Mon 16:00

Um
Mon 16:00

Still voted Varus
Poppy Mon 16:01

Yes, I noticed that as well
Brand Mon 16:01

Not sure if it's a case of bandwagonning, or just a generic apathy about who is killed.
Poppy Mon 16:07

Indeed
Brand Mon 16:08

Uh, next question... If we do have a D10 refresh, if there's a VM alive will they get more recruits :<
Poppy Mon 16:11

@MODERATOR: it would be fair if we got knowledge about VM recruits being replenished or not
Mon 16:28

Well, I'm not sure we'll get an answer, so we can't rely on that. We'll just have to figure out this stuff on our own
Varus Mon 16:30

Hey
Mon 16:30

I'm a dude
Mon 16:30

Brand stayed at home
Mon 16:30

Why am I having 3 votes?
Mon 16:31

Poppy, Lux and Zi?
Poppy Mon 16:31

Ah, Varus
Varus Mon 16:31

Isn't it obvious that Corki lied?
Poppy Mon 16:31

Who did you protect?
Varus Mon 16:31

I'm Lux, Poppy
Mon 16:31

I was swapped
Moderator Mon 16:32

Varus votes to lynch Corki
Poppy Mon 16:32

Of course
Varus Mon 16:33

Poppy, do you believe Corki?
Poppy Mon 16:33

I'm not sure.
Varus Mon 16:33

You can look back at his check, none of them makes sense
Mon 16:33

So here's the thing.
Poppy Mon 16:33

You're biased now, obviously, but please check if I was hinting (too obviously) today that I visited Corki
Mon 16:34

I need people not involved in this circle (Lux-Varus-Corki-me) to speak out on this as well, please
Mon 16:34

Did you think it was an easy guess for Corki to state I visited them?
Varus Mon 16:34

I confirmed your visit in N3, you confirmed Varus (now Lux)'s self-protection last night. Corki conflicts me. Corki conflicts Varus
Mon 16:34

And you think I am a problem?
Mon 16:35

If Corki's lit, all me, you and Varus (now Lux) are all evils
Poppy Mon 16:35

@Varus: if you see my overview of your checks you can also see that your confirmation of me N3 is the only thing that's really strong in your claim.
Mon 16:35

That's unfortunate in this scenario, and makes me possibly suspect you
Mon 16:36

@Varus: also
Varus Mon 16:36

there're 3 stalkers in this game
Poppy Mon 16:36

if you saw Teemo visit Corki
Varus Mon 16:36

Corki has none check
Poppy Mon 16:36

What was it?>
Mon 16:36

None of the possible visits from Teemo on Corki make sense, also given that Corki visited no one last night
Varus Mon 16:36

I don't know. It could be a recruitment, or a coven's one
Mon 16:37

What if Corki was recruited
Mon 16:37

and there's a VM out there
Poppy Mon 16:37

If Corki was recruited, I would almost certainly see a visit (be it militia, GD, or Stalker)
Mon 16:38

Perhaps FamMilitia not necessarily but I think Corki may have used a kill asap
Varus Mon 16:38

lay low, afraid of a check?
Brand Mon 16:38

Poppy, the randomness of you saying I need to hear from Corki to me suggested that you visited him
Mon 16:38

But actually, Poppy, you make a good point
Poppy Mon 16:38

Fair points, both of you
Mon 16:39

Still, it's unlikely
Brand Mon 16:39

Regardless of if we believe him or not, he can't be VM?
Poppy Mon 16:39

I mean, if Teemo was VM then Corki was now VM
Brand Mon 16:39

Because as you say, you'd have seen a visit
Poppy Mon 16:39

and VM didn't move but TF still ended up dead
Varus Mon 16:39

what if Teemo coven visited Corki a fam
Mon 16:40

or TF was killed by witch?
Brand Mon 16:40

What if Corki is an Alchemist at Kass suggested and he turned himself into something that doesn't visit?
Varus Mon 16:40

There're many possibilities, but most of them end up with Corki lied
Mon 16:41

Like I said, if Corki is lit, 2 stalkers and a protector are all evils
Mon 16:41

how could it be possible?
Poppy Mon 16:41

I have to agree that Corki lying is a good explanation of many options
Varus Mon 16:41

@Brand: i didnt get your point
Poppy Mon 16:42

But still...
Varus Mon 16:42

so by somehow Kass knew Corki was an alchemist?
Brand Mon 16:42

The only other reasonable explanation I can give is that Lux(-was-Varus) is Shaman and Varus(-was-Lux) is Familiar Stalker turned VM
Varus Mon 16:42

wasn't that too much?
Brand Mon 16:43

I don't see how else all these pieces fit together
Varus Mon 16:43

simple, Corki lied, me and varus (now lux) both lit
Mon 16:43

Poppy
Mon 16:44

I confirmed your check in N3, then you turned up to sus me before. Now you confirmed Varus (now Lux) last night, now you sus him
Mon 16:44

what's wrong with you?
Mon 16:44

*I stated your check
Poppy Mon 16:49

Okay, maybe I go looking for the difficult explanations where simpler suffice
Mon 16:49

I just don't like ending up being deceived and seeing that I was outplayed by a team of evils :P
Corki Mon 16:50

it not simple lol, seems complicated to me tho
Varus Mon 16:51

You're claiming 2 of the most powerful roles in this game liars.
Poppy Mon 16:51

Okay, I'm convinced. But I want to make a small play out of this
Corki Mon 16:51

most powerful?
Poppy Mon 16:51

Please bear with me
Varus Mon 16:51

waiting...
Corki Mon 16:52

im an useless if nobody come to me
Poppy Mon 16:52

I want Brand + Lux + Varus + one other on Corki as votes
Mon 16:52

We'll have 4 votes on Corki, 3 on Graves
Corki Mon 16:52

i think i will change vote from Grave to lux- now- varus
Varus Mon 16:52

we have 8
Corki Mon 16:53

my vote now on Grave
Mon 16:53

but Varus will be a better lynch for me
Poppy Mon 16:53

@Varus: I'm not sure everyone will vote.
Moderator Mon 16:53

Corki votes to lynch Varus
Poppy Mon 16:53

Buit yes, if we can do either 4-4 on Graves and Corki
Varus Mon 16:53

We can't make it even
Corki Mon 16:54

what do you wanna do Poppy?
Moderator Mon 16:54

Poppy votes to lynch Corki
Moderator Mon 16:54

Poppy votes to lynch Graves
Corki Mon 16:54

and 1 more thing
Mon 16:55

there's no reason if i confirm Poppy visiting but ignoring another
Poppy Mon 16:55

There is
Mon 16:55

It's always possible
Varus Mon 16:55

you didnt know Varus (lux) visited you
Mon 16:56

and you threw shades on me last night
Corki Mon 16:56

lol because she/he did not
Mon 16:56

and because you did not too
Varus Mon 16:56

actually the village wanted to lynch you for many previous night, but we didnt because there was a better lynch
Corki Mon 16:56

of i must ask MOd for your fucking visit
Mon 16:57

erhhhh maybe he forgot you
Mon 16:57

and you are always thow shade on me. all the time
Varus Mon 16:57

You mean that I visited you, but you didnt recieve the message?
Corki Mon 16:57

why i cant do that
Mon 16:57

oohhhh
Mon 16:58

i didn't mean that
Varus Mon 16:58

sounds like u did
Corki Mon 16:58

i mean should i ask mod if he forgot
Varus Mon 16:58

you can if you want
Corki Mon 16:58

erhhh.... but i dont think that's the gud idea
Mon 16:58

you lied xD
Varus Mon 16:58

you should ask if Varus visited you too
Corki Mon 16:59

he did not
Mon 16:59

well why you try to protect him?
Mon 16:59

are you two on the same side?
Varus Mon 16:59

because you are throwing shades on both of us. And we are sure that you're evils because we really visited you
Mon 17:00

I told you there was a circle
Corki Mon 17:00

well, you are Both Threw Shade On me first
Varus Mon 17:00

Me -> Poppy -> Varus
Corki Mon 17:00

and because i really did sleep well that night you said you came
Mon 17:01

btw
Poppy Mon 17:01

@Varus: what is that last circle?
Varus Mon 17:01

I don't think I need to explain about it anymore. It's too obvious
Mon 17:01

Poppy, I said above. I confirmed you, you confirmed Varus
Poppy Mon 17:01

Ah like that, I thought you meant we did it in the same night
Varus Mon 17:02

No, just too lazy to type those all
Mon 17:02

what's your plan anw? I didnt get it?
Corki Mon 17:02

what if varus was fam, and now become VM
Mon 17:02

Ez .... return
Mon 17:02

or sth like that
Varus Mon 17:02

how could a fam visited his-self, unless Poppy lied
Corki Mon 17:03

i did confirm the night varus visited TF
Mon 17:03

i stalked once
Varus Mon 17:03

did your fam told you so?
Mon 17:03

wait, that's right, Poppy
Mon 17:03

I've got it
Corki Mon 17:04

erh maybe but if so, i will kill you first
Mon 17:04

xD
Mon 17:04

fam stalker can visit himself
Varus Mon 17:04

Oh no, nothing, nvm
Corki Mon 17:04

i think so
Varus Mon 17:05

Nope, pretty sure they can't
Mon 17:05

pp asked about it before
Mon 17:05

Poppy?
Poppy Mon 17:06

What?
Varus Mon 17:06

what's your plan?
Poppy Mon 17:06

Not sure. Stack votes on Corki
Varus Mon 17:07

It's weird
Mon 17:07

I see two votes on me, but when I point at it, Lux, Zi and Corki voted on me
Mon 17:07

@MOD:? pls check
Moderator Mon 17:08

Varus votes to lynch Graves
Moderator Mon 17:08

Varus votes to lynch Corki
Corki Mon 17:09

i gotta sleep now
Varus Mon 17:09

Good night Corki
Corki Mon 17:09

make your own decision, Poppy
Mon 17:10

gud nite Varus/Lux
Mon 17:10

xD
Varus Mon 17:13

I'll get myself something to eat, brb
Poppy Mon 17:13

Ideally: Brand, Lux, Varus, Graves - vote for Corki. All others: vote for Graves.
Mon 17:13

and I can still decide to not vote for Graves if I want 4/3 on Corki
Mon 17:14

(I mean 4 on Corki, 3 on Graves)
Varus Mon 17:14

Some of them don't active this time, Poppy
Mon 17:14

I still have 3 votes on me (showing as 2)
Poppy Mon 17:15

Yeah, that's strange
Mon 17:15

Mmz, okay, whatever we do, I want only Corki and Grave to be at risk for lynching
Varus Mon 17:15

....because of puppets? I don;t think so. Gotta go, see you guys later
Moderator Mon 17:31

Brand votes to lynch Corki
Brand Mon 17:31

I'm cooking, so I'll read up in a little while
Mon 17:32

I hope you know what you're doing, Poppy ;)
Moderator Mon 18:01

Poppy votes to lynch Corki
Poppy Mon 18:02

My vote is counted double, but at least we're on 3 for Corki now
Mon 18:39

Hello? Anybody here?
Mon 18:40

I need somebody to step in here for the votes. It seems we're actually balanced right now
Mon 18:44

This way, we can at least test for puppetry among Corki or Lux(-Varus), which is informative to me as well. But worst-case we lose Lux-Varus, which is something we should avoid, I think.
Moderator Mon 18:57

3 votes on Varus, 2 on Corki, 2 on Graves
Brand Mon 19:03

Hmm
Mon 19:03

I don't think I can help
Poppy Mon 19:12

Nope, you can only make it worse now
Graves Mon 19:45

hi all i havent been well recently but i felt bad for not helping so i will quickly read the day but if someone can summary it that would be good
Poppy Mon 19:48

We were discussing who were evil, there was a theory presented by me Lux and Varus were evil (they are Djinn-swapped, they claim), while another theory was presented that Corki is evil.
Mon 19:48

Corki being evil corresponds with visits by Lux and Varus not being visible to Corki, who claims to be Insomniac.
Mon 19:49

We've made the decision to lynch Corki
Mon 19:49

Your vote on Corki is most welcome
Graves Mon 19:49

ok i havent believed corki for a while but is the only thing for lux and varus a djinn swap
Poppy Mon 19:49

No, it's also about the visits Corki didn't see, his weak claim back as a Stalker
Mon 19:50

and some general apperances, I guess
Mon 19:50

(Not sure if I understood your question correctly)
Graves Mon 19:50

i think you did i will vote corki for now but i will read day and see if i change my mind
Moderator Mon 19:50

Graves votes to lynch Corki
Graves Mon 19:58

i am happy with my vote today so i will leave it on corki
Lynched Mon 20:00

Corki was lynched by the village
Brand Tue 08:05

Hmm
Tue 08:07

So, was Corki the VM or have we had another awesome protector save.
Tue 08:07

?
Tue 08:13

Answers on a postcard please...
Lux Tue 08:19

we need to watch out for swaps
Tue 08:19

I'm still varus the og protector
Tue 08:20

hope poppy got some useful stalk
Brand Tue 08:29

I hope so too
Tue 08:53

*waits patiently for a stalker to turn up*
Poppy Tue 09:44

Busy atm, so only dropping off stalk. I checked Varus. They didn't visit last night. This confirms for me my suspicion I had on them. I'll be back later to talk more, but let me already vote..
Moderator Tue 09:44

Poppy votes to lynch Varus
Lux Tue 09:52

a stalker that doesn't visit
Moderator Tue 09:52

Lux votes to lynch Varus
Poppy Tue 09:59

Strange, eh? :o
Moderator Tue 10:08

Brand votes to lynch Varus
Brand Tue 10:08

Cool, let's hear from Varus
Poppy Tue 10:55

Another topic for today: what do we do in case abilities are replenished tonight? Revives are too risky, but Ori may shoot again, Graves for example... (still too busy to talk, but wanted to address the issue at least already)
Brand Tue 12:05

Good question, Poppy
Tue 12:05

I agree that right now revives are too risky
Tue 12:06

I doubt Coven have a succubus, so there's probably little risk in Ori shooting someone
Tue 12:12

Is it worth Lux telling us who she protected last night?
Tue 12:13

actually
Tue 12:14

Not right now, anyway
Tue 12:14

Maybe later?
Graves Tue 12:33

hi there not got much time right now but i have read up on what ive missed and should have time before night to talk more from what ive read varus seems a good choice so far
Moderator Tue 12:33

Graves votes to lynch Varus
Graves Tue 12:34

im sad that despite corki being proven to be lying people still doubt me but i know i cant do much about that
Tue 12:35

i think lux should save who they protected unless they think it will verify them in some way
Tue 12:36

i dont see anything in the how to play about roles being replenished and havent seen that in other games is that a thing does that mean bad team get stuff back too
Tue 12:38

ok i do have to go now but i will be back later
Poppy Tue 13:03

I'm not sure how Corki`s lying proves you, Graves.. I don't think you'll be able to redeem yourself either, you were revived by Coven...
Tue 13:04

The role replenishing is also for baddies. It's a rare thing, because most games don't take so long. So it's not documented well yet...
Orianna Tue 14:22

Hello
Lux Tue 14:28

I find both vamp having recruits available and me protecting on point for many nights straight equally unlikely, is it possible that we're only dealing against coven?
Tue 14:29

anyway, I don't think sharing my last night's protection would guide us to anywhere
Orianna Tue 14:30

I agree
Lux Tue 14:31

ori, can you shoot grave tonight if your ability comes back?
Orianna Tue 14:33

okay
Brand Tue 15:18

Ori, who will you shoot?
Tue 15:18

Should we agree ahead of time, or leave it for Ori to decide tonight?
Tue 15:23

Oh, stupid page didn't update
Tue 15:31

Poppy, you around?
Poppy Tue 15:32

Yarp
Brand Tue 15:33

Was Cork VM or Coven?
Tue 15:33

Corki
Poppy Tue 15:34

Coven seems more likely
Tue 15:35

But then again, Lux-now-Varus is probably coven as well
Tue 15:35

And they're not in the same time
Tue 15:35

team*
Brand Tue 15:35

So what's Varus?
Tue 15:35

mmh, yeah
Tue 15:35

that's what I'm thinking
Poppy Tue 15:37

I'll be gone for a bit, but it's a good point you're raising - we should think and later chat about that
Brand Tue 15:38

Hopefully I'll be more active tonight, dinner shouldn't take as long to cook
Tue 15:39

I want Twisted back... I never doubted him
Tue 15:39

Never
Tue 15:39

... well, maybe once
Tue 15:39

or twice
Tue 15:40

but that's not important
Tue 15:46

It doesn't look like there was a swap last night (although both Zi and Varus have yet to speak) which also seems weird...
Tue 15:46

Too much weirdness, too few facts
Tue 15:46

8/10 literally unplayable
Tue 15:53

Poppy, when you get back I have something else to discuss with you :<
Varus Tue 16:18

Are we voting Varus?
Tue 16:18

wait
Tue 16:18

hey
Tue 16:19

f*ck
Brand Tue 16:19

Hey?
Varus Tue 16:19

Damn
Moderator Tue 16:19

Varus votes to lynch Zilean
Brand Tue 16:19

What's up, Virus?
Varus Tue 16:19

You voted the wrong guy
Tue 16:20

I am Zilean
Brand Tue 16:20

haha, great
Varus Tue 16:20

On my phone right now, brb
Brand Tue 16:20

That's wonderful
Tue 16:20

Poppy, I need you here asap
Tue 16:21

(It's a quarter after one, and I'm a little drunk, and I need you now~~)
Varus Tue 16:25

Just finished reading. It's meta, but I think I know why they swapped me.
Brand Tue 16:25

Why?
Moderator Tue 16:26

Lux votes to lynch Zilean
Varus Tue 16:26

Normally I often drop by to check
Tue 16:27

But today I was traveling outside
Lux Tue 16:27

just so it's convenient to move later, poppy's call
Brand Tue 16:27

Thanks Lux
Tue 16:27

Quickly
Tue 16:27

Do you believe Varus?
Lux Tue 16:28

I literally doubt everyone at this point, since I experienced a djinn swap firsthand this game
Tue 16:29

or at least, first to claim
Brand Tue 16:29

Hmmmm
Varus Tue 16:29

Seems like original Lux is trying to hide by swapping around
Tue 16:30

But why me? Im nearly useless
Lux Tue 16:30

I am more believing it though, because of online time, og lux only shows up when I am not around, aka late
Brand Tue 16:30

Where is Poppy... I need Poppy to tell me what to think :(
Lux Tue 16:32

good thing I came to check I guess
Tue 16:32

well, leaving now
Brand Tue 16:33

o/
Tue 16:36

Varus, gonna be honest with you, I'm not really convinced
Varus Tue 16:36

Oh you're talking to me
Brand Tue 16:36

Yes
Varus Tue 16:37

Im nearly just watching the game
Tue 16:38

I've done my job and became nearly useless
Brand Tue 16:38

why not contribute more?
Tue 16:38

who are your suspects?
Varus Tue 16:38

Sorry to say, but most of my time, im in another game
Tue 16:39

after revived Poppy
Tue 16:39

Varus, of course
Tue 16:40

I mean Zilean, now
Poppy Tue 16:41

here
Tue 16:41

juicy stuff
Varus Tue 16:41

Need to go to bed. Have an important meeting tomorrow
Brand Tue 16:42

Poppy, hi!
Tue 16:42

I need to jump on a bus, give me about twenty minutes and then let's have a proper discussion about this!
Poppy Tue 16:43

sounds good
Brand Tue 16:43

Whilst I'm gone, will you do something for me?
Poppy Tue 16:44

Maybe
Tue 16:44

I'm actually eating dinner
Brand Tue 16:44

Reread D2 thru D5 and then the last two days, paying attention to the people who are still alive
Poppy Tue 16:44

so I'll be really active later
Brand Tue 16:44

I don't want to be too specific about what you should look for, since I don't want to bias your search
Poppy Tue 16:45

cheers, will do that
Tue 16:45

after dinner though :)
Brand Tue 16:45

Okay, well enjoy your dinner first!
Tue 16:45

Heh, I'm so laggy right now
Moderator Tue 16:46

Brand votes to lynch Orianna
Brand Tue 16:47

" balance "
Moderator Tue 16:51

Zilean votes to lynch Varus
Zilean Tue 16:52

Forgot to check today but wtf
Brand Tue 16:52

And here comes Tweedledee
Zilean Tue 16:52

Im Zileannnnnn
Brand Tue 16:52

Zilean, who were you originally?
Zilean Tue 16:53

Im still the old zilean
Brand Tue 16:53

So you haven't been swapped?
Zilean Tue 16:53

Yeah
Tue 16:54

Varus's typing is different from mine
Brand Tue 16:55

You gonna be around much longer?
Zilean Tue 16:56

No, its late and Im too tired
Brand Tue 16:57

Hmm, what if we have more questions for you?
Zilean Tue 16:58

Ok
Brand Tue 16:59

I have one question, who are your top suspicions right now?
Zilean Tue 17:00

Only Varus
Tue 17:00

Graves too
Brand Tue 17:00

Alright, ta
Poppy Tue 17:30

Ok, I'm here for about an hour
Tue 17:31

going to do the read-back Brand requested
Tue 17:52

Worked my through Varus and Lux D2-D5 and D9-now. Checking Zilean now.
Tue 17:59

Okay
Tue 17:59

Brand, you here?
Brand Tue 18:00

Kinda
Tue 18:00

just finishing off cooking dinner
Poppy Tue 18:00

Okay, I checked activity times of Varus-Lux-Zilean, superficially inspected typing style...
Tue 18:00

Let me write down what I have
Tue 18:01

Varus: D2-D5: online early (8-9) until afternoon (12-15). D9/D10: Now claims to be Lux, so looking at Lux -- online early (8-9) until afternoon (14-16).
Tue 18:02

Mostly talks without capitals, uses an informal manner of speech, names are not in capitals most of the time
Tue 18:02

--
Tue 18:03

Lux: D2-D5: online later in the day (16-20). Uses capitals most of the time, but in ongoing conversation this is sometimes missing out. Uses a '<3' symbol on multiple occasions. D9/D10: Now claims to be Varus, so looking at Varus -- online on similar times (16 - 18)
Tue 18:04

--
Tue 18:04

Zilean: D2-D5: online late morning (11-13), D9/D10: varying activity times (9-15 on D9, from 16 onwards today)
Tue 18:06

Zilean uses capitals most of the time, definitely for names. Day 9 this is totally missing, however.
Tue 18:06

--
Tue 18:06

Remarkable similarity: Lux and Zilean are both totally inactive D2.
Tue 18:06

--------------------
Tue 18:06

Grand conclusion: Lux Varus and Zilean are all 3 part of the same PM :o
Brand Tue 18:07

haha
Poppy Tue 18:07

It's hard to analyse this, I think I see similarities, but then again I filtered out so much ifnromation, I'm biased because I'm suspicious of these people...
Brand Tue 18:07

well, I didn't quite draw that conclusion but I'm glad you picked up on how different D9 was for Zi
Poppy Tue 18:07

What is your conclusion then?
Tue 18:08

He does say he's on phone, but that may be a cover
Brand Tue 18:09

I don't really have one yet, it was kinda going okay until current-Zi showed up
Tue 18:09

but I was wondering if Zi was the last step in a VM chain
Tue 18:09

and maybe we made a mistake somewhere else :/
Poppy Tue 18:10

Okay
Tue 18:11

Let's assess what's the least bad mistake we can make
Tue 18:12

The Varus of N9 didn't visit. So is probably related to Coven. Coven's less of a threat kill-wise, unless we have N10 witch kills coming in...
Tue 18:12

Ugh
Tue 18:12

It also feels that we're the only 2 left trying to solve this, Brand :\
Tue 18:13

Or, what I mean to say: we're the only 2 ones that are so active and are relatively exempt from suspicion atm
Tue 18:14

I'm 60/40 at lynching Varus over Zilean today. What about you?
Tue 18:15

Orianna, if abilities are replenished, shoots Zilean tonight
Brand Tue 18:15

I'm probably 60/40 the other way, but I never really considered (original-)Varus in my previous thoughts about wtf is going on
Tue 18:16

My whole thought process is currently: "if there's a VM left and we get a skill refresh, we're fucked"
Poppy Tue 18:16

I'm not sure they'd get 3 recruits back, though
Tue 18:16

That would be overkill
Brand Tue 18:16

even one though, at this point
Poppy Tue 18:16

True
Brand Tue 18:16

You, me, Ori... we'd have no way of knowing
Poppy Tue 18:16

Exactly
Brand Tue 18:17

and a revive would be risky, since we have no idea if Djinn has been playing with the GY :\
Poppy Tue 18:17

I'm like the only one left who can bring info into town, unless you want to play the revival game at this stage
Tue 18:17

So I'm either dead, recruited, or lynched if I'm not either of those because I'm too suspicious
Tue 18:17

x)
Brand Tue 18:17

But, what tips me towards Zilean is Graves
Tue 18:18

he went straight to Varus, earlier
Poppy Tue 18:18

brb in a few, I'll check on that
Tue 18:22

Yeah, Graves goes for Varus no doubt. Graves is hard to read either way, but being revived by Veigar tips him over as probably Coven to me. So I agree
Moderator Tue 18:22

Poppy votes to lynch Zilean
Poppy Tue 18:23

I have to leave in a bit, and I'm not sure I'm back before nightfall - most probably not
Brand Tue 18:23

Also, I'm massively impressed with Ori's contributions these last few days
Poppy Tue 18:23

So let's make a decision now and stick with it (at least I'll have stick with it)
Tue 18:23

I'll have to stick with it*
Tue 18:24

Yes, agreed
Brand Tue 18:24

I'll be here until dusk, I think
Moderator Tue 18:24

Brand votes to lynch Zilean
Poppy Tue 18:32

Okay
Tue 18:33

Well, as long as the people I'm having an appointment with don't show up yet, I have some more time to chat
Tue 18:33

So the plans are
Tue 18:33

We lynch Zilean
Brand Tue 18:33

an "appointment"? :D
Poppy Tue 18:33

Skype chat with friends :)
Tue 18:33

Anyway
Brand Tue 18:34

ah :D
Poppy Tue 18:34

If we get abilities replenished, Orianna shoots Varus.
Tue 18:34

I could probably use some protection by Lux tonight, in case there is an evil killing power.
Tue 18:34

I will check somebody who deserves a check, not saying that right now
Tue 18:37

If there's still a VM, we're doomed, I guess. If there's no VM but 3 coven, it'll also be hard, especially if abilities are replenished. If there's only 1-2 coven left, we have a good chance, I guess.
Brand Tue 18:38

and if it's one PM then... :D
Poppy Tue 18:38

:D
Tue 18:38

Anyway, got to go now
Tue 18:38

Good luck, and talk to you tomorrow, I hope ;d
Brand Tue 18:39

Have fun!
Graves Tue 19:24

ok on a bit later than i hoped but im back disappointed you dont trust me and i think varus is lying but i will move my vote to prevent a snkeay last minute vote change by bad team
Moderator Tue 19:24

Graves votes to lynch Zilean
Graves Tue 19:25

i think we need to get orianna to talk more tomorrow to avoid something like this and i also dont like how quiet they have been even though i have been busy i have spoken much more
Tue 19:26

it looks like varus saw votes on them and came up with excuse to me but it is hard to tell which is which from text they are very similar and both quiet
Brand Tue 19:27

Hmm, do you think they've been swapped, Graves?
Graves Tue 19:28

it could be a real swap but with this in mind or they are lying to cover themselves after votes i am not sure but i dont know if i can really trust either of them
Tue 19:29

my gut says varus is the one to go for but i am also ok with zilean since they are quiet and claim to have no ability anymore and both could be lying
Tue 19:30

might have saw what lux said about djinn swap meaning they cant be coven and decided to do it to try look legit as poppy says they talk similar so easy swap for them both
Tue 19:34

i am always suspicious of thw quiet ones though so maybe i am unfair to them both but since they dont agree one has to be bad
Tue 19:40

looks like zilean has just given up to me too what do you think brand you were split earlier
Tue 19:41

though you could maybe say the same about varus now i reread what they said again
Brand Tue 19:41

Well, they both said they were going to bed, but I don't see any reason why coven would have swapped Varus and Zi, do you?
Tue 19:42

then again, I don't see any reason why they'd have swapped Lux and Varus, really
Tue 19:42

Bah
Graves Tue 19:46

well it makes us doubt things and maybe over think it could be random for that reason or it could be they did it to set up a future swap but im more worried that we have only started seeings swaps last 2 days
Tue 19:47

now i may be over thinking it to
Brand Tue 19:52

ye
Tue 19:52

woops, wrong window :D
Lynched Tue 20:00

Zilean was lynched by the village
Killed Wed 08:00

Graves was killed during the night
Varus Wed 08:01

Good morning
Wed 08:01

Poppy here
Wed 08:01

Djinn has still been active
Wed 08:02

Okay, I'll drop my stalk off at a convenient moment. First I'd like to confirm: Orianna, it was you that shot Graves, right?
Brand Wed 08:02

Hmm
Wed 08:02

Poppy, who did you stalk?
Varus Wed 08:02

Mmz, not much use in holding out the information
Brand Wed 08:02

Ah, okay
Varus Wed 08:02

I stalked Graves, just to confirm they didn't use abilities last night (visible abilities, that is)
Wed 08:03

and they were still a non-visitor
Brand Wed 08:03

(Why am I so laggy?)
Varus Wed 08:03

Yeah, I got the same
Wed 08:03

Probably the file is pretty big by now
Brand Wed 08:03

Okay, I want to hear from everyone and confirm the swap
Varus Wed 08:03

Yeah, sounds good
Brand Wed 08:04

Especially from Ori
Varus Wed 08:04

Ugh, I hate having to confirm my identity :o
Wed 08:04

Now I'm thinking that I should really type like myself but then I start thinking about my own typing, which I didn't do before
Wed 08:05

Brand, there's no way in knowing you got your revive back without actually using one, right?
Wed 08:05

(there's no cancel ability button (yet), unfortunately)
Wed 08:07

Okay, so we have at least one evil left.
Brand Wed 08:07

I'm gonna be a bit busy today, I'll try and check back in at lunch
Varus Wed 08:07

Alright
Wed 08:07

I'll spew some theories and you'll read it back later
Brand Wed 08:07

Sure
Wed 08:07

glhfdd
Orianna Wed 08:07

Me is stil me. I didn't shot
Varus Wed 08:07

dd? don't die? :d
Wed 08:08

You didn't shoot?
Wed 08:08

Oh, this is bad. I guess. Confusing at least
Orianna Wed 08:08

I didn't check last night, not sure if I have my power back or not.
Varus Wed 08:08

Why didn't you?
Wed 08:09

Didn't we ask you to shoot Graves?
Wed 08:09

You're not really active these days, but your bullet is something we could at least use from you
Orianna Wed 08:09

Didnt read either
Varus Wed 08:10

Cheers, Ori. You're a great help
Wed 08:10

(activate sarcasm detector there)
Orianna Wed 08:10

will try tonight
Wed 08:10

:v
Varus Wed 08:10

Well, not sure we want you to tonight
Wed 08:10

But somebody will probably post an instruction before nightfall
Wed 08:10

At least take the time to read that
Orianna Wed 08:11

okay
Wed 08:13

Need an asv first
Moderator Wed 08:13

Orianna votes to lynch Poppy
Varus Wed 08:13

Go for it
Wed 08:26

This is one puzzle!
Wed 08:26

one hell of a puzzle, you should read from that sentence
Wed 08:26

Alright
Wed 08:28

So yesterday night we had 6 people alive: Brand, Lux (originally Varus), Varus (originally Lux), Orianna, Graves, Poppy (me). I'll talk in yesterday's perspective so I'll talk about myself as Poppy and Varus (originally Lux) as Varus.
Wed 08:29

Among these 6 people, there is definitely a Djinn. There is also an evil killing role, who decided to kill Graves.
Wed 08:30

If Graves was a member of the Coven, it is likely that a member of vamp squad killed them. If Graves was not a member of the Coven, it could both be vamp squad and Coven.
Wed 08:30

Graves was, however, not the obvious target for an anti-village kill. They had, reportedly, no ability, no real standing in the village. In other words, an evil killing Graves would not kill Graves because to strike a blow to the village.
Wed 08:31

Graves not having visited anyone last night makes me believe it is most likely they are a member of the Coven. Graves could not be the VM, and I don't think Graves was a Familiar.
Wed 08:33

If Graves was FamMilitia, it would mean Graves + VM could reach parity with a double kill, and Graves would probably have shot somebody. If Graves was another type of Fam, they probably would've used their ability.
Wed 08:34

Even if I can't entirely exclude the possibility of Graves being part of vamp squad, I think it's too unlikely.
Wed 08:34

Graves was also revived by Coven (about a week ago by now), so that corresponds with this idea.
Wed 08:37

The Djinn has been making swaps to keep once-Lux-then-Varus-now-Poppy alive. It seems we've lynched the wrong person last night, in that regard. This, in combination with the fact that Varus (original Lux) didn't visit anyone N9, makes me believe that this is the other Coven member - now-Poppy.
Wed 08:38

So we have, in last night's setup, Graves and Varus as two non-visiting Coven members, out of which one of both is the Djinn. Depending on whether there will be a swap tonight we may find out which of both is whom.
Wed 08:40

Then I'm afraid I have to come to the conclusion there is a VM among us. The VM is probably alone, and is right now in the phase that they start killing Coven members, because Coven are more dangerous to the VM at this stage. The VM is therefore not suspected at this moment.
Wed 08:40

It may be Orianna, Varus-now-Lux, or Brand.
Wed 08:42

None of those 3 could originally be a VM, obviously. So let me check who could be recruited from which moment onward.
Wed 08:45

Brand: has revived N3, didn't visit anyone N5 (there was some Stalk claim by now-Poppy that Brand didn't visit later, but that seems a fraudulent check anyway). Could be recruited since then. If so: well done! I consider you my buddy in terms of figuring out this game together and constructing village strategy.
Wed 08:47

Varus-now-Lux: Varus did a self-visit N7. Could have been recruited since then. I'm not sure about this one, but I'm inclined to trust them.
Wed 08:49

Orianna: shot N2 - moreover, has been a Mason member of the first hour. Could be recruited since Masons have fallen apart. That could have been from N6 onwards, I guess.
Lux Wed 08:49

I'm still the protector
Wed 08:50

btw
Varus Wed 08:50

Orianna has been annoyingly inactive in this game. An observation for today: first Orianna hears my stalk, confirms that I didn't visit them, then claims they didn't kill anybody. This means that they now have one legal killing visit left.
Wed 08:50

Conclusion: Graves + now-Poppy coven, Orianna VM, Lux + Brand + now-Varus village.
Wed 08:50

Hi, Lux!
Wed 08:50

Please talk to me :)
Lux Wed 08:51

I guarded varus last night to prove ori's militia shoot, though I had no idea if they would shoot varus or grave since we suggested two names while they were not online
Wed 08:52

but since they claimed that they didn't shoot, hmmm
Varus Wed 08:52

Orianna also put the ASV on the person that would, from a superficial inspection of the game, be the best lynch target. The elusive non-visiting Stalker
Wed 08:53

(at least, if people believe I am the original Poppy)
Wed 08:53

What do you think, Lux?
Lux Wed 08:54

I want to confirm one thing though, long as it is not considered meta
Varus Wed 08:54

Sure, do ask - and we'll decide on its metaness or not
Lux Wed 08:55

since my last night's protection target was involved in a djinn swap, who will be the person that I cannot protect tonight? does it track the disguise name or the player behind the screen? intel roles track the players, but I am not sure about a protector
Varus Wed 08:55

I had that question as well just now, but then I forgot
Wed 08:55

Very good question
Wed 08:55

And I think we should definitely put it to use, if we can ;d
Lux Wed 08:56

if it is not meta, and if I can know the answer, I can confirm tonight whether you were really swapped
Varus Wed 08:56

(I also hope you can protect tonight's Varus, me, even though you protected yesterday night's Varus)
Lux Wed 08:56

at least, to myself
Wed 08:56

should I ask mod about this?
Varus Wed 08:56

I think you should.
Lux Wed 09:00

I asked, hope we get answer
Varus Wed 09:03

I hope so too
Lux Wed 09:04

he answered with a 'probably' in the sentence
Wed 09:04

that the protection does tract the correct user, like intels do
Wed 09:04

track*
Varus Wed 09:04

okay
Wed 09:04

good point to add to the H2P, by the way
Wed 09:04

But then here's my suggestion
Lux Wed 09:05

so if all of these are true, I can't protect the now-poppy
Wed 09:05

which shouldn't affect you
Varus Wed 09:05

We lynch Orianna (if people agree with my long theory on who is what) today, you check tonight whether the swap is correct while protecting yourself (your info is necessary). Tomorrow you come back with the result, and depending on the outcome we lynch either one of us two.
Lux Wed 09:06

that plan has one weakness thoug
Wed 09:06

though*
Varus Wed 09:06

The only remark I want to make is that, in case the protection doesn't track Djinn-swaps, I don't want to get lynched for it. So a little more confirmation, at least by tomorrow, is a requirement for me in order to proceed with a lynch.
Lux Wed 09:06

why can't I type today
Wed 09:07

one hole in that plan that could cost the village is that if brand is the vamp, he'll win at 1-1
Wed 09:07

but at this rate, I don't think we can afford any perfect plan
Varus Wed 09:08

Yes, Brand being Vamp is an issue. But then again, it also holds for you, I guess. There are some things we cant prevent indeed
Wed 09:08

I mean, I can stalk Brand tonight, but if he simply kills me, that info is lost.
Wed 09:08

Best we could do is 50/50 on protecting yourself/me, but that is then biased towards me perhaps
Lux Wed 09:11

how about this, we leave the 50-50 chance open for tonight, if I live, I can tell whom to lynch, if I die, you can tell whether to lynch brand or poppy, all both depend on our night information, and if the evils kill each other, good for us
Wed 09:12

but wait..... never mind
Wed 09:12

now this just means if poppy was evil, and we lynched brand, he would also win at 1-1
Wed 09:15

okay, so, no perfect plan
Varus Wed 09:15

I think I'd rather trust Brand now, they're 10x more likely to be village in my opinion
Lux Wed 09:15

I agree on either lynching ori or pop
Varus Wed 09:15

(I know for certain that now-Poppy didn't visit one night, while they're claiming Stalker, so for me it's easy to reason this)
Lux Wed 09:16

also, yeah, a stalker without visit, discussed yesterday
Wed 09:18

ori being unable to confirm the replenishment of ability also doesn't help
Wed 09:20

I'll be off for a moment
Wed 09:20

do you want me to drop a vote on ori or pop?
Wed 09:20

could move later, if it's not too late into the day
Moderator Wed 09:20

Varus votes to lynch Orianna
Varus Wed 09:20

I'm going for Ori.
Wed 09:20

Poppy is definitely evil in my book, but less of a threat, I guess.
Lux Wed 09:21

yeah, can only be djinn
Wed 09:21

or a useless witch or shaman
Varus Wed 09:21

Well, Graves could've been Djinn
Wed 09:21

Also PM without kids
Lux Wed 09:21

or alchemist that transmuted everyone but himself
Varus Wed 09:21

Yes
Lux Wed 09:21

all the coven
Varus Wed 09:22

=)
Moderator Wed 09:22

Lux votes to lynch Orianna
Lux Wed 09:22

be back later
Varus Wed 09:22

Alright, see ya
Wed 09:23

So Orianna's plan was, if I'm correct in my theory, to lynch Poppy today. If she'd have a recruit left it would be 2v2 by dawn, Vamp win. If not, she would kill one of Brand/Lux/Varus, and then she'd just have to survive the final lynch...
Wed 09:26

If Ori did recruit last night, it would probably be Brand (Poppy the Coven is impossible to recruit, and it can't be Lux, unless Lux is playing a cunning game beyond comparison)
Wed 09:27

But another VM recruit would probably not be possible, unless at least one recruit is replenished N10.
Brand Wed 10:02

Back for five minutes or so
Wed 10:02

So since Ori turned up, I think I'll answer what Varus asked earlier...
Wed 10:03

I didn't get my ability refreshed, so I assume Ori didn't either
Varus Wed 10:04

How did you find out?
Wed 10:04

There's no other way to find out than trying, right?
Brand Wed 10:04

no buttons
Wed 10:04

the button disappears when it's used up
Wed 10:07

So, hmm, Lux, who did you protect yesterday?
Moderator Wed 10:07

Brand votes to lynch Poppy
Brand Wed 10:07

Bah, my meeting had started back up, bbs
Varus Wed 10:10

@Brand: Lux already said they protected Varus (now Poppy).
Wed 10:11

I'm also not sure I agree with buttons disappearing
Wed 10:11

I don't have a solid memory of it
Wed 10:11

but I know at least that buttons remain visible even when you can't use them anymore, for example when you're dead
Wed 10:22

Mmz, I was thinking Brand may be recruited, but that's unlikely given that VM probably killed last night (see my story above). Never mind :)
Brand Wed 10:32

No, not recruited :p
Varus Wed 10:32

Alright
Wed 10:33

I think Graves is just such a weird kill
Wed 10:33

As a Coven kill, it just can't be explained, at least I can't
Brand Wed 10:33

Yeah, I wondered if it was an attempt to frame Ori?
Varus Wed 10:33

And it's really Graves, unless we have double Djinn suddenly appearing (one Djinn-swap last night was Varus-Poppy, ofc)...
Wed 10:34

Either way, given the possible roles Orianna and Poppy can have, I think it's more safe to lynch Orianna.
Brand Wed 10:35

Vampire would know that our abilities didn't get refreshed because they didn't get more recruits, so kill Graves so Ori looks worse? Really don't think it can be a witch kill, right?
Varus Wed 10:35

It's only really troublesome if there are 2 Coven in Brand/Lux/Varus/Poppy, but if that's the case, I've trusted the wrong people anyway, and I congratulate the Coven
Wed 10:36

If it's 1 Coven with killing ability, it will be 3 in village but we know who to lynch. If it's 1 Djinn, it will be 4 in village and we have a doubt between 2 people as lynch targets
Wed 10:36

@Brand: who would kill Graves, as VM then?
Wed 10:37

Lux and Poppy both have had visits that excluded them as VM at least at that stage - so for them to be VM you'd have to consider a recruit from somebody who is now dead, who was the VM back then
Brand Wed 10:41

Honestly, right now I'm not sure about anything
Wed 10:41

This entire game is just one big mess
Varus Wed 10:43

Yeah, it's just impossible to account for all possible ways evils have maneouvred their way into the end-game
Wed 10:43

Too many uncertainties
Orianna Wed 10:50

I am THE ONLY ONE who is lit here in this game ;)
Brand Wed 10:50

Let me think about it over lunch, hopefully the others will be more talkative today
Orianna Wed 10:50

If I was evil, I just need to say I shot
Varus Wed 10:51

Orianna, please help me understand last night's events then
Orianna Wed 10:55

What's hard to understand?
Varus Wed 10:56

Why did Graves die?
Wed 10:57

(An option I haven't mentioned before: Zilean could've been PM, technically speaking - but this seems strange)
Orianna Wed 11:00

VM killed, or witch killed. I just didn't. I'm not sure about your N10 stuff. Never seen before
Brand Wed 11:09

Varus, that's an interesting suggestion and in some ways could make sense
Wed 11:09

If the Graves who was revived was swapped out, it would make sense to swap them with a puppet
Wed 11:10

but the question then would be, where's the Graves who was revived?
Varus Wed 11:12

@Orianna: but given the fact that I saw a Coven member revive Graves, Graves should be part of the Coven. So Witch kill is highly unlikely. So if it's VM, who would be VM then? Can you put in a little more effort in formulating an answer to that question? :o
Wed 11:13

@Brand: the PM would be Zilean, or still alive. But we'd also have a Djinn still living in that situation, meaning that we have 2 Coven. Poppy + ...?
Wed 11:14

If we can assume VM has no recruits anymore
Brand Wed 11:14

If there are two coven remaining and we lynch the VM then we lose
Wed 11:14

:/
Varus Wed 11:14

Yarp
Wed 11:16

I think it would be hard to win if there are 2 village left, if every faction would operate optimally.
Wed 11:16

We can't lynch VM, so we lynch Coven. 2Vi, 1VM, 1C left. VM kills a village. 1 village, 1 VM, 1 Coven. Village cannot win in that scenario.
Brand Wed 11:16

I wish Graves was here so I could vote on whoever he didn't
Wed 11:17

>_<
Varus Wed 11:18

I might have a plan that would work, in case we don't have VM recruit ability replenished, and out of Brand,Lux,Orianna and me there is only one liar, namely the VM.
Brand Wed 11:18

The question I have is that if there really is still a VM hanging around, where did all the missing kills go?
Varus Wed 11:18

We lynch Poppy.
Wed 11:19

Lux protects me, I stalk Orianna.
Wed 11:19

If Lux dies, Brand is VM.
Wed 11:19

If Brand dies, it's Lux.
Wed 11:19

(Assuming Orianna didn't move, of course)
Brand Wed 11:19

Lux protects you, if you die we lynch Lux
Varus Wed 11:19

If Orianna moves that night, it's Orianna.
Brand Wed 11:20

if Ori kills anyone, you'll see it
Varus Wed 11:20

The thing is: Lux protected last night's Varus (now Poppy).
Wed 11:20

We were wondering if protect tracks Djinn-swaps, mod said 'probably'...
Wed 11:21

So if prot does track Djinn, the plan is possible. If not, it will be a problem :o
Brand Wed 11:21

Well, Lux should be able to tell us today
Varus Wed 11:21

They already asked Mod, and no conclusive answer was given.
Wed 11:22

To which I, frankly, object...
Brand Wed 11:22

oh, right, sorry I misunderstood
Wed 11:22

yeah, hmm
Varus Wed 11:23

The plan also doesn't account for me being evil, by the way. Now I think, as an intel role, I've proven myself - but objectively speaking it's a weakness
Wed 11:23

So these are two weaknesses of the plan
Poppy Wed 11:23

This is madness
Varus Wed 11:23

THIS
Wed 11:23

IS
Brand Wed 11:23

Right now, I can think of a few problems with that plan, but I can't think of anything better
Varus Wed 11:23

SPARTA
Wed 11:23

*kicks Poppy into pit*
Poppy Wed 11:23

Hello again, Orianna here
Wed 11:23

xD
Brand Wed 11:23

No, this is Patrick
Varus Wed 11:23

Haha
Wed 11:24

Poppy, genius move, I must say
Poppy Wed 11:24

I was first swapped with Varus and then with Poppy last night
Brand Wed 11:24

（╯°□°）╯︵(\ .o.)\
Poppy Wed 11:24

I shot Graves
Varus Wed 11:24

You were first swapped with Varus?
Wed 11:24

You were never swapped with Varus, darling
Wed 11:25

Lux was swapped with Varus, then with Poppy.
Wed 11:25

At least, that's how I see it :)
Poppy Wed 11:25

It says that my identity has been swapped two times
Moderator Wed 11:25

Varus votes to lynch Poppy
Varus Wed 11:25

I say we go with my plan :P
Wed 11:26

And cut Poppy to pieces with Ockam's razor
Brand Wed 11:26

I can't deal with this any more
Varus Wed 11:26

double identity swap my ass
Poppy Wed 11:26

Who is now-Orianna?
Varus Wed 11:26

Orianna claims to be Orianna
Brand Wed 11:26

Poppy, how did you shoot Graves when there was no skill refresh?
Poppy Wed 11:27

I clicked the button and now he's dead
Brand Wed 11:27

▄︻̷̿┻̿═━一
Wed 11:27

Pew Pew Pew
Poppy Wed 11:28

lmao
Wed 11:28

Lol
Wed 11:28

Orianna Wed 08:08 I didn't check last night, not sure if I have my power back or not
Wed 11:28

That's not how Orianna talks
Wed 11:29

Orianna was excited to get her power back
Moderator Wed 11:29

Poppy votes to lynch Orianna
Varus Wed 11:30

Why did you choose Graves as target?
Poppy Wed 11:31

Because he is evil
Wed 11:32

He saw that Twisted was a Familiar, and I trust Twisted
Wed 11:33

And Twisted died
Wed 11:34

Poppy is Varus now?
Varus Wed 11:36

Yes, I'm the person who originally was Varus
Wed 11:36

Poppy*
Wed 11:36

x)
Poppy Wed 11:36

Orianna copies my words, even my typos :v
Varus Wed 11:36

So we have 2 Djinn-swaps? Poppy-Varus and Orianna-Poppy/Varus?
Wed 11:37

These Djinn did have to think exactly in which order to carry out the swaps
Wed 11:37

if one person was swapped twice
Wed 11:37

So who are these 2 Djinns, pop?
Poppy Wed 11:37

First swap: Orianna and Varus
Wed 11:37

Second swap: now-Varus and Poppy
Wed 11:38

Orianna is Varus of yesterday, Poppy is Orianna of yesterday, Varus is Poppy of yesterday
Wed 11:41

Please vote Orianna
Wed 11:41

She is evil now
Varus Wed 11:41

So who are the 2 Djinns?
Wed 11:41

(Let me repeat my question)
Poppy Wed 11:42

Orianna and someone
Wed 11:42

Lux or Brand
Varus Wed 11:43

Okay
Wed 11:43

And do you believe there is still a VM present in the game?
Poppy Wed 11:46

I think no
Varus Wed 11:47

Okay
Wed 11:48

But then Graves should be Coven, and we'd have 3/7 Coven yesterday. They would be one vote away from lynch, and they would reach parity before nightfall. Seems strange that didn't happen, right?
Wed 11:48

If what you say is true, of course
Lux Wed 11:48

.................uh
Wed 11:49

if there were two djinns last night
Wed 11:49

you see....
Poppy Wed 11:49

Graves was a Djinn then
Lux Wed 11:49

the number doesn't really make senses here
Wed 11:49

so, like, vamp must still be alive
Wed 11:50

as hard as it is to believe poppy, but since the og lux never makes it to the day before it's late, I'm very conflicted against my inner self right now
Varus Wed 11:53

Yeah, but that is not a very solid argument..
Wed 11:53

I think we should lynch Poppy and proceed with out 4-person plan.
Wed 11:53

with our*
Poppy Wed 11:53

What about Orianna confirming to shoot?
Wed 11:54

:P
Lux Wed 11:54

I don't think two djinn situation is possible tbh
Moderator Wed 11:55

Lux votes to lynch Poppy
Poppy Wed 11:55

Lux is sus
Varus Wed 11:55

Poppy is susser
Wed 11:55

maybe the sussest
Wed 11:55

;)
Poppy Wed 11:57

Lux Tue 14:31 ori, can you shoot grave tonight if your ability comes back? Orianna Tue 14:33 okay
Wed 11:57

Orianna Wed 08:07 Me is stil me. I didn't shot
Varus Wed 11:58

Why would fake Orianna not simply claim to have shot Graves, especially once I've stated (foolishly, in hindsight) my stalker check was on Graves already?
Poppy Wed 12:37

To make us believe that a Vampire Master is still alive
Varus Wed 13:16

Okay, quick message before I leave for some time: I think that most likely we'll lynch the last evil in Poppy now.
Wed 13:16

If not, Orianna may be Djinn or VM.
Wed 13:16

We carry out the VM-proof plan (it's almost VM-proof at least), it's the best we have.
Wed 13:18

If there's no kill but maybe a Djinn-swap, we can never lose - if the Djinn is either Orianna or Brand, we lynch them both eventually. If Djinn tries to become either Stalker or Protector, we wait until they guess the protection wrong (Stalker checks Prot's target, we reveal simultaneously, eventually the fraud should appear). At least eventually we'll lynch the right person, and in the meantime we don't lynch if it's too rsiky and we might lose otherwise.
Wed 13:19

So I think that, only against a Djinn, we have no chance to lose. Against a VM we can only lose if there's a recruit, and/or because of holes in our plan, and for a VM + Djinn the same applies whichever we don't lynch today.
Wed 13:19

Anyway, I'll be gone for a while
Poppy Wed 13:30

But we're losing to two djinns
Wed 13:31

Do you doubt that I am Orianna? :/
Lux Wed 14:13

whom do I protect tonight again?
Varus Wed 14:23

@Poppy: I don't believe that
Wed 14:23

@Lux: protect me! :)
Brand Wed 15:21

I agree with Poppy
Wed 15:22

I don't think the plan is perfect (what is?) but it's the best we have
Wed 15:26

ugh, I agree with Varus
Poppy Wed 16:37

I confirmed to shoot yesterday
Wed 16:37

Orianna now claims to not have shot
Wed 16:38

Why would the Vampire kill my target?
Wed 16:40

And the Vampire came back after 2 nights without death
Wed 16:40

"Orianna" was up pretty early today
Brand Wed 16:48

Poppy, the problem I have is that there wasn't a skill refresh
Wed 16:48

So whenever happened last night, you're still lying
Poppy Wed 16:53

I got my power back
Brand Wed 16:53

Well that's incredibly unfair because I didn't :|
Poppy Wed 16:56

So you're evil
Brand Wed 17:00

This is the way the accusations begin. Not with a bang, but with a whimper
Poppy Wed 17:26

Did you test your powers?
Varus Wed 19:28

So, to repeat the plan: tonight, Brand and Orianna should stay put, no ability is to be used. Lux protects me and I check Orianna. Depending on who dies, the right person is lynched. If nobody dies but a Djinn is (allegedly) active, we only lynch if we're sure. We can rely on Stalker checking Prot as a way for these roles confirming each other with this secret information, preventing one last Djinn from winning this game...
Wed 19:28

I hope that it's over in 30 though ^^
Lynched Wed 20:00

Poppy was lynched by the village
Brand Wed 20:28

OH FINALLY
ShaneMcC Wed 20:29

FINALLY
Kirschstein Wed 20:29

THE ROCK
Wed 20:29

HAS COME BACK
Wed 20:29

TO WERE
ShaneMcC Wed 20:29

lol
Kirschstein Wed 20:29

WOLV.ES
Brand Wed 20:30

Now, I just need to work all our Djinn swaps backwards to find out who was who
Wed 20:30

>.<
ShaneMcC Wed 20:30

Holy crap you guys that game was hard to follow. there was a lot of swapping.
Varus Wed 20:31

Noooooo
Brand Wed 20:32

So, now I want to know, how come the Insomniac didn't see the protector visit him?
Teemo Wed 20:32

who was original lucian?
Wed 20:32

<-- kass
Brand Wed 20:32

Must have been Greenbear, I think
Teemo Wed 20:32

I'm glad masons didn't win
Brand Wed 20:33

because the other ML got stolen
Teemo Wed 20:33

f masons this game. If you want to be an example of how to be a jerk. Those masons are the perfect example
Varus Wed 20:33

Why 3 VMs in GY?
ShaneMcC Wed 20:34

https://pastebin.com/3d8C5yyi << Some kind of attempt at following what happened swap wise
Wed 20:34

Varus: One of the VMs got smited, and it seemed to result in the leading-familiar becoming the VM rather than the smitee ending up in the fams body, or fams ending up without a master
Varus Wed 20:35

Ah, ok
Brand Wed 20:35

that's... kinda cool actually
Varus Wed 20:35

Lame to get smited as VM, though
Wed 20:36

So Viktor - Sona - ... was one recruit trail
ShaneMcC Wed 20:36

I can dig out the recruit trials if you want
Teemo Wed 20:37

ha ha village lost
Wed 20:37

get rekt masons
Wed 20:37

*happy*
Varus Wed 20:37

Masons \neq village, Town
Teemo Wed 20:37

?
Varus Wed 20:38

Don't like to be in the same box
Wed 20:38

Masons =/= village
Teemo Wed 20:38

well yeah, but masons would have won if village won
Wed 20:38

who were you originally Shabs?
Varus Wed 20:39

Poppy
Brand Wed 20:39

I honestly thought the coven were dead after D2
Varus Wed 20:40

How could you be Djinn, Brand? Help me out here :O
Brand Wed 20:40

we lost Maokai (Alchemist) N1, Lissandra (Alchemist) D2 and then Karthus (PM) N2
Wed 20:40

I was always Djinn, Shab ;)
Varus Wed 20:40

omg
Brand Wed 20:40

Veigar was Alchemist, purged Jhin and transmuted himself - we got lucky and he rolled Witch
ShaneMcC Wed 20:41

Xii: I also thought you were dead very quickly
Brand Wed 20:41

Shane, so did I
Teemo Wed 20:41

I was so right about Maokai
Wed 20:41

obviously I was right
Kirschstein Wed 20:41

I would not have bet on coven winning this game d3
Teemo Wed 20:41

good they did
Brand Wed 20:41

then we revived Lissandra (who we'd swapped into Graves N2 randomly) and he rerolled Djinn
Wed 20:41

FML
Teemo Wed 20:41

else Lucian would have won
Varus Wed 20:42

We heard you, Town x)
Poppy Wed 20:42

But you didn;t hear me
Teemo Wed 20:42

Nah, I waited days to taunt them
Wed 20:42

weeks
Wed 20:42

even
Varus Wed 20:43

How did Ori get into position?
Brand Wed 20:43

last night?
Poppy Wed 20:44

I got swapped with Varus and then with Poppy
Brand Wed 20:44

Graves swapped Poppy <-> Ori, and I swapped Ori <-> Varus
Poppy Wed 20:44

Did you even listen to me, Varus?
Varus Wed 20:44

Sorry, Poppy. Double Djinn was unbelievable...
Brand Wed 20:44

That's exactly what I counted on
Wed 20:44

:D
Varus Wed 20:45

It's not like you were village anyway x)
Poppy Wed 20:45

But confirming to shoot and then not coming back + different activity times?!
Wed 20:45

Orianna said that she was going to shoot and then she said that she didn't try at night
Brand Wed 20:45

<Brand (to the Coven)> [Wed 07:42] if someone dies, BTW, we panic <Graves (to the Coven)> [Wed 07:42] :D <Brand (to the Coven)> [Wed 07:42] because if Poppy sees Ori kill someone, this whole plan falls apart xD
Varus Wed 20:45

Didn't check activity times today, I was a bit busy. Too bad
Poppy Wed 20:46

I pointed them out for you
Wed 20:46

Lux did too
Wed 20:46

It''s not like I was Original Orianna ... xD
ShaneMcC Wed 20:47

Ok, so, vamp recruits (I think)
Wed 20:47

Chain 1: Ezreal (SoFasttt) recruited Kassadin (ImTownSRSLY) || Kassadin (SoFasttt) recruited Ahri (Quy)
Wed 20:47

Chain 2: Viktor (Lomoinc) recruited Sona (CTSK) || Sona (CTSK) Recruited Vi (Khang123) || Vi (CTSK) Recruited Orianna (Bloony)
Poppy Wed 20:47

That was the biggest fail
Wed 20:48

And I obviously blame it on the game
Varus Wed 20:48

What was?
Poppy Wed 20:48

I thought that my recruitment of Vi failed because there was no confirmation
Brand Wed 20:49

Interesting that there was never a Familiar (Militia)
Poppy Wed 20:49

And only found out at nightfall x.x
Brand Wed 20:49

I wonder how different things would have been if there was
Poppy Wed 20:50

I was again in a position where I had to shift khang :D
Wed 20:50

Always khang
Brand Wed 20:50

:D
Poppy Wed 20:51

If only I had not messed up with Vi
Wed 20:51

3/5 masons turned would have been fun
Brand Wed 20:51

Yeah
Wed 20:51

that's the only thing that kept the coven alive, I think
Poppy Wed 20:51

Especially with Ahri being recruited too
Brand Wed 20:52

The fact that the masons fell apart really helped us
Wed 20:52

it made everyone focus on the vampire(s) for a bit
Poppy Wed 20:53

Well played
ShaneMcC Wed 20:53

There was some weird mason fuckery one of the nights, where one of the VampMasons was literally that - and able to see both chats
Poppy Wed 20:53

*whistles*
Varus Wed 20:53

Village could've used some intel, ones that weren't recruited/purged/killed ;d
Poppy Wed 20:54

Mhm
Teemo Wed 20:55

can someone of the masons explain me all those hints about school?
Poppy Wed 20:56

Greenbear having to go to the washroom / wait for lunch to be able to play?
Lucian Wed 20:58

OMG IS TF LIT?!?!?!?
Wed 20:58

C'mon, guys, ffs
Brand Wed 20:59

*whistles*
Lucian Wed 20:59

Why do I always have to break my back to gain any trust?
Brand Wed 21:00

because some terrible people heaped massive amounts of shade on you unfairly :'(
Wed 21:00

those terrible, terrible people :(
Lucian Wed 21:02

Terrible
Poppy Wed 21:02

Because the who situation was sooo weird
Lucian Wed 21:02

I also would love a list of who was who, originally
Wed 21:02

It's every game I'm an actual village role, though
Wed 21:02

Facilier, nobody believed me then either
Brand Wed 21:03

>_>
Wed 21:03

<_<
Wed 21:03

no comment
Poppy Wed 21:03

Maybe you need to become more .... bellievable xD
Lucian Wed 21:03

Other people are like, "I'm demonlord!" and village is like "HE'S DEMONLORD!"
Wed 21:04

I give a ton of successful, calculated results, even a VM, and I'm sus until death
Poppy Wed 21:04

You're just too good to be true
Brand Wed 21:04

<Brand> [Tue 15:39] I want Twisted back... I never doubted him [Tue 15:39] Never
Lucian Wed 21:04

*squints*
Poppy Wed 21:05

I put you out of your misery, aren't you thankful?
ShaneMcC Wed 21:05

Jez: https://pastebin.com/3d8C5yyi will let you see who was who originally (the first name in brackets next to each person)
Brand Wed 21:05

I still wanna know how Lux convinced us to lynch Corki
Wed 21:05

like
Graves Wed 21:06

Phew, thought it hadn't ended...
Brand Wed 21:06

glitch?
Poppy Wed 21:07

So ... was Corki evil or did you just ake him evil?
ShaneMcC Wed 21:07

Although I think I messed up on the role changes near the end with the double djinn, so my file may not be accurate
Brand Wed 21:07

Corki was insomniac, afaik
ShaneMcC Wed 21:07

It should be right for the start of the game anyway!
Poppy Wed 21:08

Thought so
Wed 21:08

But from my PoV it was like
Wed 21:08

not me? ok
ShaneMcC Wed 21:08

lol
Brand Wed 21:08

I was like "wtf, is Lux the VM?"
Wed 21:08

"whatever, let's roll with it"
Poppy Wed 21:09

In the end I thought that there were 3 Covens and that varus was one of them, because he was so certain of a VM
Brand Wed 21:10

well, there would have been if you hadn't killed Graves >:|
Poppy Wed 21:11

Graves was obvious
Wed 21:11

You were Brand all the way through, right?
Brand Wed 21:12

yep
Poppy Wed 21:12

Maybe I should have kept Graves for the village to lynch
Brand Wed 21:12

mmh, but then it would have been hard to explain why someone died
Poppy Wed 21:12

Congrats for not getting lynched for claiming a revive on a coven xD
Wed 21:12

Right
Brand Wed 21:13

:D
Lucian Wed 21:14

Corki made himself look evil! Everything was so suspect!
Wed 21:15

Who was the original SW?
Varus Wed 21:15

That's ironic, you in that avatar, Jez :o
Poppy Wed 21:15

Not if you realize that Kassadin was evil
Lucian Wed 21:15

(Still having a hard time getting it straight, even with the file, Shane)
Wed 21:15

Yeah. . .
Poppy Wed 21:15

Surely not an accident, Shabas
Brand Wed 21:15

Lucian, you mean who was Karthus originally?
Wed 21:15

-> Jhin
ShaneMcC Wed 21:15

Jez: Yeah, it's not the best file, I kinda just copy the lines as I see them, then piece it together later if I need it
Varus Wed 21:16

So what was up with the Corki situation, anyway? There was no bug? There were no visits that didn't appear that should've appeared?
Lucian Wed 21:16

Yeah, I meant who was Jhin, thanks
ShaneMcC Wed 21:17

Jez: Jhin never changed
Wed 21:18

<Spy> Jhin (marcweide) Gravedigger role assigned => <Spy> Jhin (marcweide) Sleepwalker role assigned << He became a sleepwalker, but didn't change avatar
Poppy Wed 21:30

Someone wanted to discuss whether it's ok to be a dick to a dick?
Twistedfate Wed 21:32

We actually won!
Wed 21:32

Even though I died N1 :(
Wed 21:32

I was so sad I died so early
ShaneMcC Wed 21:32

Poor rubin.
Twistedfate Wed 21:32

I got all hyped for this game, especially when I saw I was in the coven
ShaneMcC Wed 21:33

You were so happy, you had a good coven team of active people.
Wed 21:33

<Maokai> Anyhow I'm glad we have an active coven team
Wed 21:34

<Maokai> Well this game was fun <Maokai> 10/10 would play again <Maokai> -_-
Wed 21:34

:(
Lissandra Wed 21:41

GG guys.
Wed 21:41

-original Teemo
Twistedfate Wed 22:22

@Shane, yeah I was pretty sad haha
Wed 22:22

Probably more on the salty side at that moment
Graves Wed 23:20

I was continually amazed every night that I was still alive and avoided the lynch, then the Vampire Master killed me. It was a smart move to make it look like a replenished Militia kill, you were unlucky XII came up with the double-Djinn swap. Breaking the Masons apart was smart too, though it definitely helped us as it's probably the main reason I was alive for so long
Wed 23:21

Not killing to make the village target Coven was smart too
Wed 23:23

Every night I was like "OK, who do I drag under the bus with me when I'm lynched?"
ShaneMcC Wed 23:43

heh
Sona Thu 00:37

Man, I did my best to keep things cool
Thu 00:41

...
Orianna Thu 00:50

wow
Thu 00:50

I have to say, it's the best coven team ever
Thu 00:56

I'm Vei - Alchemist, purged Jhin N2, transmuted myself into witch. Killed Poppy N3, revived Graves (original Liss), Brand swapped me with Lux (puppet, going to be smitted because PM was shot in N2). I lied about Teemo to make Brand lit, then I was swapped with Varus the protector again
Thu 01:00

faking to be Lux is really a misery, her active time is 2a.m in my place :( That's why I lied about losing my phone (sorry for that, my phone is safe with me). I don't want to fake too much checking results on the covens, was afraid that TF digged me as coven -> find out the others
Teemo Thu 01:00

gg Hannah :)
Orianna Thu 01:00

again, the double Djin, you guys have known so far
Thu 01:00

Hello Town
Teemo Thu 01:00

coven with the right team is amazing
Thu 01:00

#ext-100
Thu 01:01

#rub-001
Orianna Thu 01:01

we nearly like gave up many times
Teemo Thu 01:01

#someothergames I can't remember the number :D
Thu 01:01

that's a coven life
Thu 01:01

you should read ext-100 coven chat :D
Thu 01:01

it's every night "we're done man" "we're done this time"
Orianna Thu 01:01

We made a lot of confession or graves, so if he got lynch, he could point out the VM
Teemo Thu 01:02

read ext-100 :D
Thu 01:02

same tactics :D
Orianna Thu 01:02

I made mine too
Thu 01:02

Yeb Will try
Teemo Thu 01:02

https://wwarchive.herokuapp.com/
Thu 01:02

here you can read coven chat too
Thu 01:02

it's not in the official replays
Orianna Thu 01:02

Who are you original, Town? I read the record, but kinda hard to understand
Thu 01:02

oh really?
Teemo Thu 01:02

Kassadin
Thu 01:03

got recruited n3 -_-
Orianna Thu 01:03

original stalker, right?
Thu 01:03

I'm Teemo- an alchemist no.1, swapped myself to Lux - PM because I could have 1 night seeing visited a living people. Lux wanted to let herself lynch because she was uselss without her puppets, and she was going to travel abroad and couldnt be online to fake stalker. Also, Teemo couldnt revive, so Teemo will be lynched sooner or later. She believed that pointing her evil can make me more lit. Before that, I purged Graves, turned my self into Djin, very unluckily. Maokai is an original Djin, killed very soon in N1. We wished we could make some mess in GY, but couldn't. Viktor is an alchemist, showed up in coven chats, but forgot to vote. N2 Karthus- alchemist and Warrick- the puppet was killed. N2 viktor purged Jhin. Vei was a puppet from begining, that's why we knew Poppy lied, she lied about Viktor's visit too.. Poppy must be a fam recruited in N2, then killed in N3 by other VM. Kass claimed to be purged, but we didnt, so he was evil. And we didnt purge Corki, so we are sure that Corki was Vamp/fam. Sona's not a fam/vamp. She is a coven, she robbed Maokai, but she showed up to say hi in covens chat, then disappeared. Seems like she gave up on us. So we knew for sure that TF's evil. -> So far coven found: Kass + Corki + TF + Poppy lied. Viktor purged Jhin. I purged Graves because we knew who was revived. Things could be better if I could have a witch, and covens werent kill that early. Covens all agree to make the village win, rather than Vampires.
Teemo Thu 01:03

yeah
Orianna Thu 01:03

here's my confession on the last night as Lux
Teemo Thu 01:03

:D
Thu 01:03

A Good coven team is what gets you hooked to the site :D
Orianna Thu 01:04

we are lucky too
Thu 01:04

Corki claimed to be purged at the night we purged him, but still think he's vm and just fake it
Thu 01:05

Maokai in N1 was really ready for a game, we discussed alot about what role to claim, then he was killed :|
Thu 01:08

Did we know why Corki didnt see Varus visited him?
Thu 01:09

Anw its my 1st experience as a coven, I didnt even know how GD and stalker results become with a swap. That's why Vei claimed Graves alchemist (because we really swapped him)
Sona Thu 01:16

#noregret recruiting Ori, Ahri and Sona. Mason did it right strategic wise.
Teemo Thu 01:18

yeah well, you can't chose the roles, but you can chose the Recruits
Orianna Thu 01:19

About Ori claimed to shoot, I copied everything Ori said, included the mason code, but didn't read the whole paragraph, so I didnt know she agreed to shoot. If so, I would just say I dont have power back
Sona Thu 01:19

Clearing both Militias and GR was a right thing to do
Orianna Thu 01:20

Ori showed up early in D7 (8:02). Covens wanted me to show up at about 10, but I think the sooner is the better
Teemo Thu 01:20

next time, also try to be working for the village, and not separate to the village. But I know you were trying to hold some of them back
Thu 01:21

but the whole "stop talking to X he's not mason" is not nice. And wont make you any friends
Sona Thu 01:23

It was Ezreal who was lynched. Clear as sky. And you should look back what you wrote that day
Teemo Thu 01:23

I know what I wrote.
Thu 01:23

Sad SoFasst didn't pick up on it.
Thu 01:23

I needed a way to get myself out of the game.
Lucian Thu 01:23

D4 Graves is evil! D10 Graves finally dies.
Teemo Thu 01:23

Because if Ez gets swapped into me, he can't keep the activitiy up
Sona Thu 01:23

What's the point of talking when all I got was argument
Teemo Thu 01:24

So I tried to be mad, and distance myself from the game.
Sona Thu 01:24

And hated for something I didn't even say
Teemo Thu 01:24

So I SoFassst could play the satly town next day
Thu 01:24

he didn't
Thu 01:24

and got lynched again
Thu 01:24

I don't know why.
Thu 01:25

You guys pulled off the "don't talk to X" several times
Thu 01:27

not to mention the "revivers should revive mason"
Thu 01:27

yo nice move guys.
Thu 01:31

You did not much wrong, but your ML companion will be KOS for some time.
Orianna Thu 01:32

I can't stop laughing at jezebelthenun's comment :"D4 Graves is evil! D10 Graves finally dies", by a VM killed, not lynched =))
Thu 01:32

and Brand, who revived the most obv coven -> became lit
Thu 01:33

*not laughing at, just lol when I read Jeze's comment
Thu 01:33

*not laughing at him
Thu 01:34

anw, so here's the meta part =)) Ww.es can not only destroy friendship, it can destroy love too. I had to lie to Quy nearly everyday
Thu 01:35

Sneak to the toilet to show some actives or to read while hanging out with him =))
Thu 01:36

Lied that I'm tired and will go to bed soon, then stay up until 2 to be Lux
Thu 01:37

There's 1 night he was at my house, wait until I slept then went home. I really slept, but my alarm rang at 1:00 am. I couldnt go to work the day after that
Sona Thu 01:42

Where's the "revivers should revive mason"? I can't find it anywhere
Teemo Thu 01:42

Day 4 I think, by lucian
Thu 01:43

the day after ez got lynched
Sona Thu 01:45

I even fixed him jesus
Teemo Thu 01:45

I already said you tried to hold him back
Sona Thu 02:09

Poor Ori
Thu 02:09

I mean Hannah
Thu 02:14

Anyway, I think I might take a long break from ww.es
TheSilentOne Thu 02:14

Why?
Lux Thu 02:18

Oh boy.
Thu 02:18

I suspected the right people but wrong team. Of all things, I surely thought we lynched a coven, and that Brand was VM.
Thu 02:19

Welp.
Thu 02:19

Also, ugh, never catch the early end game talk. Timezone, come on.
Thu 02:20

I've only seen like a few games that end at dawn rather than at dusk. ;-;
Thu 02:21

Well, you Vampires, at least I wanna know, how many protection did I succeed? Please tell me I at least got one right and you weren't recruiting/waiting the whole time. ;-;
Thu 02:31

OG Varus, OG Protector.
Orianna Thu 03:13

Yes i wonder why vamps left protector live that long, even after some days he claimed self-protect too
Thu 03:15

Seems like evils werent afraid about hitting protector's protection
Kassadin Thu 03:57

there's many things I hate about this game
Thu 03:58

I tried so hard to push the village's train to victory, and when it was starting to move well, I was pulled out to an opposite, losing side
Thu 04:01

and btw why Sona became VM? Was it the game mechansm to be able to rob a VM or mod's decision? or game bug?
Warwick Thu 04:03

erh so it ended
Thu 04:04

I'm original Corki
Thu 04:04

I dont understand
Thu 04:05

when I got purged into Insomniac, why I didn't get the message when Lux visited me
Thu 04:07

@Hannah : are you sure coven didnt purge me - Corki?
Thu 04:07

I didnt get recruited and I'm a original Stalker from the beginning
Thu 04:08

there are so much crazy things in this game
Orianna Thu 04:21

Graves purged you, Zun
Thu 04:21

@Quy: Sorry babe :"> I thought Sona was recruited?
Ahri Thu 04:27

GG
Thu 04:27

weird, I thought Quy was enna
Thu 04:27

lol
Thu 04:28

@ctsk: we are definitely BFF, same ideas of fuck up the cocky, invincible mason xD
Thu 04:29

I tried to recruit Sona, then Vi, both bounced, what a pity
Thu 04:29

@Meth: I don't get it, what's your hint that I need to catch? that we ''are'' mason and they aint lit?
Thu 04:30

I got that but thought it's too long of a shot, there were 5 of them
Thu 04:31

I should have showed up and spoke some as you though, it would not be hard
Thu 04:32

out of all ppl, you are the one I think I can imitate, our rages are kinda same xD
Thu 04:32

but was busy, and morale was low and forgot to come up
Thu 04:36

it was hilarious seeing Quy's reaction when be turned from a ''very lit mason member'' to a ''soon to lose familiar'' lol
Thu 04:36

I could imagine his frustration that morning xD
Thu 04:38

VM should be fixed
Lux Thu 04:40

So, Corki was a legit Insom?
Thu 04:40

Then, how didn't they see my visit?
Thu 04:41

They should see all the people that visit them on the same night.
Thu 04:41

Also, still waiting for the Vampires to confirm that I at least protected right. :v There were so many no death nights.
Kassadin Thu 05:07

@SoFastt: I think Town meant that he has pretended to be salty and incooperative the previous day, so the next day you didn't need too much effort to fake him, just drop some salty comments and you should have not been lynched
Thu 05:09

both Town and I has paved the road for you to play fake the next days, and I don't think it would take too much effort for you to fake us, so that's why I was angry that you seemed not putting a decent effort into this
Thu 05:10

@Hannah my recruit chain was: Ez -> Kass -> Ahri
Thu 05:12

ironically Kass and I (Ahri) were the two who pushed for the agressive play on D2, and it seemed to start paying off
Thu 05:12

recruiting Kass and me was good for ruining village, but not good for the recruiting VM himself
Thu 05:13

suiciding move, lose-lose position definitely
Warwick Thu 05:14

@Lux : yes I am, I'm legit Stalker at first, then turned to be Insom @>@
Kassadin Thu 05:15

who was the original Jhin btw?
Poppy Thu 05:37

I think Jhin stayed Jhin
Kassadin Thu 05:42

no I remember "Jhin" in GY spoke up and said he was someone else
Thu 05:42

I didn't like the original Jhin's attitude
Thu 05:44

he fucked up the GD reveal, threw away many other people's effort, drove ppl mad, but then blame ppl for being mad at him without an appology
Thu 05:45

probably marcweide? purged into SW
Thu 05:49

I still didn't understand what happened with Sona and why he became VM
Thu 05:50

probably not normally recruited, because there're 3 VMs here in GY, and Sona seemed wasn't changed back then, still gave the correct mason code...
Thu 05:50

the normal recruit didn't fit what happened
Thu 05:51

ctsk you were original Sona right? what happened?
Brand Thu 05:56

Jhin was originally Kauthus
Thu 05:58

and re. Sona, from what Shane said she was recruited N2 or N3 but could still read Mason chat the following night or something like thatlike
Thu 05:59

There are three VMs because when Viktor was smiled, the first recruit was promoted to VM, rather than being swapped
Vi Thu 06:02

Lol
Thu 06:02

This game is so wierd xD
Thu 06:02

Wih all the swaping and such
Thu 06:05

I was sooo sure my master was going to win
Thu 06:06

Because Ori is like the litted body in the game xD
Brand Thu 06:11

Awwh
Orianna Thu 06:20

So Corki didnt see Varus visited is still a mystery
Brand Thu 06:27

yeah, I'm curious about that
Orianna Thu 06:32

Can I have Vampire's night activity list?
Kassadin Thu 06:54

so game bug was real :(
Varus Thu 07:02

Yeah, Corki is still a mystery
Thu 07:03

Also, Hannah, you said that I (Poppy) had to be lying about Veigar, but I really saw that! Genuine stalk check! Another bug!?
Orianna Thu 07:12

nope
Thu 07:12

Poppy, your results are all right
Thu 07:13

I just made it up to make you Fam in case I could be lynch, that will became the saddest coven's confession
Thu 07:13

I may nego to keep me alive, lynch the fam 1st, then I will have a chance to be swap to sb else
Thu 07:14

that's what we are doing. Throw sb under the bus, they got lynched, let myself swapped before some intel found out that we lied
Thu 07:15

I'm veigar who killed you and revived graves, Brand swapped me with Lux (a puppet will be killed because PM died the night before), so the village saw that Vei died
Varus Thu 07:15

Ok, like thatthe
Orianna Thu 07:15

My check as Lux that you visited Vei was a lie, a good luck
Thu 07:16

I couldnt know you would be revived. Pretty sure you are fam who tried to protect Viktor
Brand Thu 07:17

also, I'd like to mention the moment of panic I had the second to last night when I couldn't be sure if I'd just convinced the village to lynch Hannah because I lost track of the swaps we made xD
Orianna Thu 07:18

actually some how the village all found out about our coven's plan
Thu 07:18

started from Vei witch, swapped with Lux
Thu 07:19

=))
Thu 07:19

He's lit, he didnt lie to the village =))
Kassadin Thu 07:19

lol XII
Orianna Thu 07:20

It was a brillian move to swap me to Lux
Thu 07:22

from N7 or 8, if you notice, Brand told you guys about our plan as a possibility
Kassadin Thu 07:22

so by N2, coven lost 4 members (1 killed N1, 1 lynched D2, 2 shot N2) and 1 puppet was in a pending death
Orianna Thu 07:22

yeb
Thu 07:22

only me and brand left
Thu 07:22

until I revive Graves
Kassadin Thu 07:26

2 vampires taking mason drew too much attention on the masons in a few days in a row
Orianna Thu 07:33

mason should consider to recruit intel roles too
Thu 07:34

They are really uselss with 2 MLs, 2 militias and 1 GR
Warwick Thu 08:55

I still feel crazy for all info I have :))
Orianna Thu 09:12

=))
Thu 09:12

Your check was.... :|
Thu 09:13

I'm nearly like 100% sure that you were evil
Jhin Thu 10:55

Um so what happened to my puppet xD
Brand Thu 11:05

Which one?
Vi Thu 12:25

Lel
Thu 12:25

True i think the mason shouldnt recuit 1 time ability too
Thu 12:26

But atleast we prove 2 lit and killed 2 evil in 1 night :3
Thu 12:26

Awww thought we (the village) would win ;)
Thu 12:27

Gg on emliminate the mason evil
Thu 12:27

The mason got wiped xD
Jhin Thu 13:09

Lux was supposed to die with me but stayed alive long after that..
Orianna Thu 13:16

I (vei) was swapped to lux. its brand's idea
Thu 18:14

.
Brand Thu 19:09

Oh, someone with no name :o
Thu 19:09

hello
ShaneMcC Thu 21:50

That was me
Thu 21:50

I found a way to reproduce it somewhat
Thu 21:51

But not reproduce with perfect accuracy like random guy does who seems to get caught by it
Thu 21:51

That was "I reopened firefox on my phone"
Thu 21:52

it remembers the page content from the last time I looked at it, so doesn't ask the server for the page, then loads the game, but loads it as a null user as it has no actual session or so
Thu 22:03

Maybe
Thu 22:06

.
Thu 22:06

..that's the wrong window.
Thu 22:06

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