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BumblebeeMan Tue 09:12

AYAYAYAYAYAAAAY so much dead
Jeremy Tue 09:18

I think at least one out of Ralph/Nelson is a puppet
BumblebeeMan Tue 09:19

HA HA
Tue 09:19

sry....
Tue 09:20

Well ralph talked yesterday so the chances are good that the PM is still somewhere :/
Tue 09:20

I thought for a moment it could be a dead PM
Jeremy Tue 09:20

what happens to puppets when their masters die?
Tue 09:20

*master
BumblebeeMan Tue 09:21

if the master gets lynched they die in the morning, if they die during the night they stay silent for a day
Willie Tue 09:38

Man, this is a sorry sight to behold :( It's like a massacre, with the killer being a weird mixture of idleness and pointy teeth o.o
Database Tue 09:41

morning
Tue 09:42

if PM died, 2 pet gonna die today
Tue 09:42

I wonder why 1
Tue 09:43

or 1 death already?
Apu Tue 12:06

Hello everybody! I have a clue for one death
Tue 12:07

I know that Jacqueline was the ML (she recruited me N2). We discussed who she'd recruit tonight. The fact that she's dead now may be a possible lead to the vamp, although we can't be sure of course. Perhaps a GD can confirm Jacqueline's role in order to verify my story. And also, I can see if I can talk to this person still (if Jacqueline recruited a villager but died for other reasons, I would talk to this person tonight, right? (if no vamp/coven))
BumblebeeMan Tue 12:07

yes you would
Apu Tue 12:08

It could be that she was redirected and/or killed anyway, so I don't want to necessarily incriminate the recruited-elect today. I'm also not sure if I should expose their identity.
Tue 12:08

In case this person has valuable intel that I could bring forward for them.
Tue 12:08

Although I may also be at risk of being killed
Tue 12:09

Let me know what you think about what we can do best in this situation
Tue 12:11

In the meantime, let me respond to chat so far. Jeremy, I agree that one of both is probably a puppet. We'll see if PM died, but I think it's unlikely.
Tue 12:16

So far, it seems that vamp has made a kill every night, which seems a strange move (it seems safe that they should have recruited by now) - so if somebody has an alternative explanation for one of the deaths, I urge you to consider coming forward with it
Willie Tue 12:50

Apu, you definitely should tell us who she wanted to recruit
Tue 12:51

because if you die tonight we lose that information forever
Tue 13:11

I'd also like to know *why* she chose said person to recruit
Hibbert Tue 13:19

Hey guys, Hibb's here
Tue 13:19

hmm, 2 deaths and 2 smites, what a night
Tue 13:21

certainly our vamp can't do the alpha kill, it must be vamp kill plus either witch-poison/militia-shot or puppet dies with his master
Tue 13:22

could also be a failed ML recruit, but the chance of ML recruiting the 1 vamp out of 12 ppl alive is quite small IMO
Tue 13:25

Apu and Jacqueline could be team coven
Tue 13:29

We are entering a dangerous zone here ppl, 11 ppl alive, 4 coven + 1 vamp + 1 possibly fam vs only 5 of us
Tue 13:29

we lost the majority
Tue 13:30

@Apu assuming you're telling the truth, you are at alot of risk tonight, should as well reveal your role mate
Tue 13:37

and I think I agree with Willie
Krusty Tue 13:52

Apu, you should say your role and who Jacqueline tried to recruit
BumblebeeMan Tue 14:37

I agree
Tue 14:37

but I guess I shouldn't because I'm shady af right?
Apu Tue 15:06

Alright, there are enough votes for coming out with revealing ML recruit attempt. The target was Hibbert. He seemed (and still seems) to be on point when it comes to village strategy, so it seemed a good choice. Jacqueline being dead now doesn't vouch for Hibbert, although the evidence is not conclusive yet.
Tue 15:06

About me and Jaqueline being coven: I hope that a GD reveal will help free me of suspicion tomorrow.
Tue 15:08

I'm not necessarily opposed to revealing my role today, although I'd like to hear a bit more arguments before I will do so - I feel that the statement 'Apu should reveal role' has been made too lightly right now.
Tue 15:08

@BBM: I'm not sure what you're on about, which your agreement/disagreement/calling yourself shady...
Tue 15:08

with* your agreement/...
Krusty Tue 15:33

Okay, so here's the deal. I was recruited by Jaqueline night 1 (because of the mayor thing). We agreed to try and recruit Apu night 2. Jaqueline got the confirmation message that Apu was recruited, but Apu didn't speak to us last night. My theory is that Apu was recruited by Vamp and ML at the same time. He would get the message saying that Jaqueline recruited him, as well as the vamp recruit message (this is how he knows that Jaqueline is ML).
Moderator Tue 15:33

Krusty votes to lynch Apu
Krusty Tue 15:34

He saw that J had recruited him and assumed that there wasn't another mason to catch him out
BumblebeeMan Tue 15:34

*grabs popcorn*
Tue 15:35

that's some fun stuff
Tue 15:36

I suggest we let them both live for the moment and Apu gets checked?
Hibbert Tue 15:36

Hey guys
Tue 15:36

I'm on the run, only have 15 mins
Tue 15:36

interesting
Moderator Tue 15:37

BumblebeeMan votes to lynch Krusty
BumblebeeMan Tue 15:37

b for balance
Hibbert Tue 15:37

First thing, I'm not a vamp, if Apu is telling the truth, then either Jac get killed last night by vamp, or got redirected to a vamp
Krusty Tue 15:39

She had already recruited me and (attempted to recruit) Apu. She didn't try to recruit anyone last night and couldn't have been redirected
Hibbert Tue 15:39

Krusty, if vamp recruited Apu N2, how come he still make the kill?
Tue 15:40

did you guy discuss about that? what's your conclusion?
Tue 15:40

and APU, we need a role reveal from you, NOW
BumblebeeMan Tue 15:41

You wanna imply that APu is the vamp?
Krusty Tue 15:41

We didn't discuss Apu being recruited by vamp last night, Jaqueline assured me she got the confirmation that Apu was recruited so we assumed he just hadn't spoken yet
Tue 15:42

There are coven in the game, probably a witch
Tue 15:42

or a witch hunter
Hibbert Tue 15:43

I dont think either WH or witch would want to kill N2
Tue 15:43

did she got the confirmation in the morning, or when she pushed the button?
Krusty Tue 15:44

In the morning
BumblebeeMan Tue 15:44

you get the message in the morning
Tue 15:44

at dusk
Krusty Tue 15:44

Dawn*
BumblebeeMan Tue 15:45

Almost
Tue 15:45

I'm mexican
Tue 15:45

AYAYAYAAAAAAYYAAAAAY
Hibbert Tue 15:45

hmm, assuming Krusty telling the truth, if Apu did get recruited, then he can't be vamp/fam/coven at that moment
BumblebeeMan Tue 15:46

someone here tried to recruit a coven?
Tue 15:46

Does the msg still appear?
Hibbert Tue 15:46

then why didn't he show up last night in mason chat and make things up today to partially frame me?
BumblebeeMan Tue 15:46

I tihnk it doesn't
Tue 15:46

like in ext-100
Hibbert Tue 15:46

I think it doesn't, gonna ask discord
BumblebeeMan Tue 15:46

StormMod recruited a djin
Tue 15:46

yeah ask in #roles plz
Tue 15:46

so everyone can read :P
Krusty Tue 15:47

I was that Djinn, I didn't get the message
BumblebeeMan Tue 15:48

yes but what did ML get
Tue 15:48

I fKrusty is prot, RIP
Krusty Tue 15:49

I have another card to play
Hibbert Tue 15:50

hmm, thennn, if we believe you Krusty, the only possibility is Apu indeed got converted into a Fam after successfully joined the mason
BumblebeeMan Tue 15:50

hmmm
Tue 15:50

it happened twice
Tue 15:50

I think
Tue 15:50

also spd-024
Hibbert Tue 15:51

it means N2, but Duff was killed N2
BumblebeeMan Tue 15:51

but I'm not sure if it was the same night :S
Tue 15:51

So APU says he got the msg today right?
Krusty Tue 15:52

I started the game as a Graverobber. I robbed SLH. SLH was a Tarot reader. I used this ability last night and I know there is 1 GD alive rn. It showed that the puppetmaster was dead but there was 1 puppet alive. So Jaqueline was ML and Murdoch has to be a puppet. If I take those away from my list, I have an up to date TR list
Tue 15:52

The GD can confirm that SLH was a Tarot reader
Tue 15:52

and that I'm telling the truth
BumblebeeMan Tue 15:52

holy shitz
Krusty Tue 15:53

ikr
Hibbert Tue 15:53

holy moly
BumblebeeMan Tue 15:53

can you give us the whole list without protection roles?
Tue 15:54

w8 if one puppet alive
Tue 15:54

this means Duffman was PM
Tue 15:54

did nelson say a word?
Tue 15:54

or murdoch?
Hibbert Tue 15:55

Krusty, I think you should give us the full list of role, without any number
Tue 15:55

go mate
BumblebeeMan Tue 15:55

I mean if a PM dies at night
Tue 15:55

the puppet stays siilent for a die
Tue 15:55

WHO didin't talk yesterday
Krusty Tue 15:55

Nelson didn't say anything yesterday
Tue 15:56

Okay I have this list. You want it without protection roles and without numbers?
Hibbert Tue 15:56

Krusty, full list of role pls
BumblebeeMan Tue 15:56

OK so
Tue 15:56

like both smithes could be Puppets too
Hibbert Tue 15:56

what roles do we have?
BumblebeeMan Tue 15:56

I mean if the PM didn't vote with the puppet and then the pm dies the puppets get smited before the morning death kicks in
Krusty Tue 15:57

How do you want the list? Without numbers or protection roles?
BumblebeeMan Tue 15:57

yes
Hibbert Tue 15:57

yeah
Krusty Tue 15:58

Vampire, GD, PM, WitchHunter, Succubus, Stalker, Familiar, Puppet, Beholder, Djinn, ML, TR, Reviver, Witch
Tue 15:58

^including dead
Hibbert Tue 15:59

is that all? are you sure?
BumblebeeMan Tue 15:59

we have 11 peeps
Tue 15:59

there are 13 roles
Krusty Tue 15:59

Not including protection
BumblebeeMan Tue 15:59

no 14..
Tue 15:59

kk
Tue 16:00

I think the list has some stuff in it and is missing some stuff
Tue 16:00

which makes it hard to fake
Tue 16:00

if tr misses a role of an active player hell breaks lose
Hibbert Tue 16:00

oh, so where are you Krusty?
Krusty Tue 16:01

I'm the TR
Hibbert Tue 16:01

you said you are GR
BumblebeeMan Tue 16:01

Ok barney spoke last on Saturday 20:08
Krusty Tue 16:01

Then I robbed SLH
Tue 16:01

I became the TR
Hibbert Tue 16:01

except there's no GR in your list
Krusty Tue 16:02

Because there was none when I used the power
BumblebeeMan Tue 16:02

gr stops to exist
Tue 16:02

you become a full grown TR
Tue 16:03

well
Tue 16:03

hmm
Tue 16:03

I'm way to villager here -_-
Tue 16:03

gonna die tonight -_-
Tue 16:03

so if we assume the puppet already died
Tue 16:04

from the dead:
Tue 16:04

Nelson didn't talk at all
Tue 16:04

Duffman talked on sunday
Hibbert Tue 16:04

I dont give a damn fuck about the PM and his pets
Tue 16:04

I just wanna know Krusty and Apu, who is lit
BumblebeeMan Tue 16:04

too bad for you, I do.
Hibbert Tue 16:05

so Krusty said that there's a Fam in his list
Krusty Tue 16:05

Yes
Hibbert Tue 16:05

it meant Vamp recruited someone N1 or N2
Tue 16:05

but we had deaths N1 and N2
BumblebeeMan Tue 16:06

but n1 and two there can't be puppet deaths to cover it
Hibbert Tue 16:06

the only possible explanation for that to happen, is Witch use his poison
Krusty Tue 16:06

There is a witch and a witchhunter
Hibbert Tue 16:07

for a WH to kill, he has to check first, then kill the next night, and he doesnt know if his masic-user target is village or coven
Tue 16:07

unless he's insane, I dont think he kills N2
Tue 16:07

so only witch kill
Tue 16:07

why witch wanna kill some1 this early?
Krusty Tue 16:08

How often do we get trigger happy militia? If the WH got the check and saw that that person was suspicious the next day, I think there's a good chance that they'd shoot
BumblebeeMan Tue 16:09

it could be beneficial for a GD to tell us some things
Hibbert Tue 16:09

Duff didnt say anything to be sus
Krusty Tue 16:09

That's a matter of opinion
Hibbert Tue 16:15

speaking of that, we do need more opinions
Tue 16:15

it's not easy to fake a TR read in a blind game
BumblebeeMan Tue 16:15

You can just assume I'm lying through my teeth, and count the EvilBumbleBee as another
Hibbert Tue 16:15

so I'm more inclined to believe Krusty atm
Tue 16:16

I still find it hard to believe we have no seer, how can we find the vamp then?
Krusty Tue 16:16

Stalker?
Hibbert Tue 16:16

multiple?
Krusty Tue 16:17

1
Tue 16:17

Or we could catch them out with a rolecall?
Hibbert Tue 16:17

lol, find vamp with only 1 stalker, good luck
Tue 16:18

is he dead or alive anyway?
Krusty Tue 16:18

Do you want the list with numbers?
Hibbert Tue 16:18

Not sure
Tue 16:19

ok, give us the bad guys status, all alive?
Krusty Tue 16:19

Dead Pm and dead puppets
Tue 16:19

Puppets don't count towards parity
Hibbert Tue 16:20

huh, so Murdoc cant be puppet
Tue 16:20

why do we have 2 deaths
Krusty Tue 16:20

No that's including Murdoch
Tue 16:20

I'm sure that Murdoch is a puppet
Hibbert Tue 16:21

so it's 1 puppet alive in your list?
Krusty Tue 16:21

Yes but a dead PM so Murdoch must be that puppet
Tue 16:22

I know that Murdoch was a puppet and J was a ML, so I can take those off the list and have a fully up to date list of every role alive right now
BumblebeeMan Tue 16:22

Murdoch voted yesterday
Hibbert Tue 16:23

he even spoke
Krusty Tue 16:23

A djinn swap then?
BumblebeeMan Tue 16:23

17:02
Krusty Tue 16:23

No one claims to have been swapped today
Tue 16:24

if you find someone that sounds like Murdoch yesterday, you've found a coven member probably
Hibbert Tue 16:24

I'm interested in the full list with numbers (except protection role), not sure what could be the consequence tho
Krusty Tue 16:25

It'll tell everyone exactly how many protection roles there are
Tue 16:26

:( Murdoch barely spoke yesterday
Willie Tue 16:26

Krusty, so you're saying that your TR read last night showed that there was a puppet alive but did not show a PM?
Tue 16:26

have I got that right?
Krusty Tue 16:26

Yes
Willie Tue 16:27

so either Duff was PM or one of the smitees was?
BumblebeeMan Tue 16:27

the smites would happen before the TR check
Krusty Tue 16:27

Yup
Hibbert Tue 16:27

Ok, so either Krusty is TR, Jac is ML, Murdoc is puppet and Apu is Fam
Krusty Tue 16:28

and SLH was a TR
Tue 16:28

GD can verify that
Hibbert Tue 16:28

or Krusty is coven/puppet who's trying to wreck chaos
Willie Tue 16:28

So, if we assume Apu is familiar, he must have been taken N2 right?
Krusty Tue 16:28

Yeah
Tue 16:29

With a plan this elaborate? :P
Willie Tue 16:29

which means Duff was killed by Coven / Village, not by Vampire?
Hibbert Tue 16:29

I've seen better plan and act from PM xD
Tue 16:29

I'm more inclined to believe you tho
Krusty Tue 16:30

Yes, if Apu was recruited N2, duffman was killed by coven/village
Willie Tue 16:30

I find it weird that vampire took Apu as familiar and there was still a death
Hibbert Tue 16:31

actually willie, you claimed that you got swap with duff right?
Krusty Tue 16:31

So Willie was the target for the kill
Willie Tue 16:31

yes
Hibbert Tue 16:32

why speaking like you wasnt duff?
Tue 16:32

*weren't
Willie Tue 16:33

because using old madness gets confusing
Tue 16:33

names*
Moderator Tue 16:33

Hibbert votes to lynch Apu
Willie Tue 16:33

stupid rain, messing up my touchscreen
Hibbert Tue 16:34

I find the way Apu withhold his role reveal a bit sus, also I'm more inclined to believe Krusty atm
Willie Tue 16:37

Krusty, can you give the "full" list again please?
Tue 16:38

I can't scroll up -_-
Tue 16:39

also please don't include dead people
Tue 16:39

I think you had PM in there last time right?
Hibbert Tue 16:40

If we believe Krusty (GR), then SLH = TR, Willie/Duff = PM, Nelson/Murdoc/Ralph = Puppets, Jacqueline = ML, Apu = Fam
Apu Tue 16:40

Alright, the game is on! Give me 5-10 minutes to cycle back home, and I'll answer the acquisation
Hibbert Tue 16:40

just give you role now Apu
Tue 16:41

then you can elaborate later
Tue 16:42

annnd he's gone
Tue 16:42

Krusty, 1 thing doesn't add up mate
Willie Tue 16:42

I don't like any of this
Hibbert Tue 16:43

If Willie-now-Duff was PM, got killed then get swapped with Duff-now-Willie
Tue 16:44

then both puppets shouldn't speak D3
Tue 16:44

however, Ralph and Murdoc did
Krusty Tue 16:45

So the djinn must have swapped the puppet last night with Murdoch
Willie Tue 16:45

yes, which means one of the smited must be PM
Tue 16:45

hmm, out that
Tue 16:46

did anyone else not speak?
Tue 16:47

Krusty, full list without dead please
Krusty Tue 16:47

I don't see why I shouldn't include protection roles
Apu Tue 16:48

Back
Willie Tue 16:48

I'd be fine with that, tbh, since witch negates them all anyway
Database Tue 16:48

wait, if NelSon or ralp is Pm and Murdoch is pet , so why Murdoch-the-pet active yesterday but the PM did not O_o
Apu Tue 16:48

Me being accused of Familiar makes this kinda awkward, but here we go: I'm stalker.
Tue 16:48

I got a N1 stalk visit to vouch for me though
Willie Tue 16:48

too convenient
Tue 16:48

u
Krusty Tue 16:48

Vampire, GD, Witchhunter, Succubus, Stalker, Familiar, Djinn, TR, Reviver, Witch, Protector
Tue 16:48

All alive right now
Apu Tue 16:49

I stalked Freddie N1. He visited (then-)Willie.
Tue 16:49

Unless Freddie's coven, I'm sure he's going to confirm this.
Krusty Tue 16:49

Even if he does, that doesn't mean you're not a familiar
Willie Tue 16:50

Krusty, so both puppets died last night?
Tue 16:50

so there was no vampire kill last night?
Krusty Tue 16:50

I think J was the Vamp kill
Tue 16:50

She was ML
Apu Tue 16:50

A secondary point (weaker than this N1 visit, granted): I did ask about stalker strategy D2.
Willie Tue 16:50

oh yeah, I see
Hibbert Tue 16:51

Just read back, only Barny and Nelson didn't speak yesterday
Krusty Tue 16:51

and Willie asked about TR strategy, I thought he was hinting at it but he wasn't
Hibbert Tue 16:51

If we believe Krusty, then Barny must be coven now
Tue 16:51

Apu
Tue 16:51

full check pls
Krusty Tue 16:52

Barny? I don't follow
Apu Tue 16:52

N1: Freddie visited Willie. N2: Jacqueline visited me. N3: Krusty didn't visit.
Krusty Tue 16:53

Well you would know that J visited you from the recruit message but TR is seen visiting themselves
Hibbert Tue 16:53

If we believe you and Duff the PM got killed, whoever didnt speak yesterday was coven, Barney didn't
Apu Tue 16:53

@Krusty: granted on the ML recruit. About the TR visiting themselves: this confirms for me that you're lying
Tue 16:53

but we're telling conflicting stories anyway, so that's nothing new
Krusty Tue 16:53

Same to me for you
Willie Tue 16:54

Krusty, quick question... didn't you just beholder in your check earlier?
Tue 16:55

I thought I saw it but maybe I misread
Apu Tue 16:55

Just wanted to have put this out there: claiming GR who has become TR, impressive! It seems so outrageous that you would believe it, but I can't for obviosu reasons.
Willie Tue 16:55

list, not just
Apu Tue 16:55

So I hope Freddie can confirm that I did stalk him correctly. Granted, Freddie could be the vamp clearing my name, so an outside party still has to confirm either me or Freddie to clear us both.
Krusty Tue 16:56

There is a dead Beholder
Apu Tue 16:56

I'm also hoping that Krusty is busted because of somebody having a role that's not on the list.
Tue 16:56

It seems an incredible gamble to fake claim TR, so lets see if it works out for you, Krusty
Willie Tue 16:56

wait, TR tells you dead people? o.o
Krusty Tue 16:56

It not supposed to :P
Apu Tue 16:56

Indeed
Krusty Tue 16:57

But it shows the role with a zero next to it
Moderator Tue 16:57

Apu votes to lynch Krusty
Willie Tue 16:57

so what, it said "Beholder 1 dead"?
Tue 16:57

oh, okay
Krusty Tue 16:57

Beholder 0
Willie Tue 16:57

Duff was Beholder
Hibbert Tue 16:57

hmm
Willie Tue 16:57

SLH was TR
Hibbert Tue 16:57

Ralph could be Beholder
Krusty Tue 16:57

Woo!
Willie Tue 16:57

GD is still alive
Hibbert Tue 16:58

at this point, I think we need a full list form you Krusty
Willie Tue 16:58

go look at my first line today if you don't believe me ;-
Tue 16:58

;-)
Krusty Tue 16:58

Vampire 1, GD 1, PM 0, WitchHunter 1, Succubus 1, Stalker 1, Familiar 1, Puppet 1, Protector 1, Beholder 0, Djinn 1, ML 1, TR 1, Reviver 1, Witch 1
Tue 16:59

The check as I received it
Willie Tue 17:01

so the next question, did WH kill our beholder?
Tue 17:01

I kinda hope it was a witch kill but :/
Hibbert Tue 17:01

no vanilla?
Tue 17:02

what a game lol
Moderator Tue 17:03

Willie votes to lynch Apu
Willie Tue 17:04

it's a long time since we had a GR in a game
Hibbert Tue 17:05

Unless there's a counterclaim or some role who isn't on this list reveal themselves
Tue 17:05

I think Krusty is lit
Willie Tue 17:05

next question, if WH killed Duff should they come out so we can publicly shame them?
Hibbert Tue 17:06

no, WH shouldn't
Willie Tue 17:06

oh well
Krusty Tue 17:06

We have a full list of all alive roles rn, we could do a rolecall
Tue 17:07

Then we would get to shame the WH :)
Hibbert Tue 17:07

I don't think it's wise, prot will get kill first hand, next up is WH and stalker since they can find vamp and coven
Willie Tue 17:08

I think both Hib and Freddie are coven
Tue 17:08

I'm instantly suspicious of anyone who proposes a 3 way vote split to prevent puppets
Tue 17:08

and Freddie went after me way too hard yesterday
Hibbert Tue 17:08

funny, I think you are coven Willie
Apu Tue 17:08

Krusty's probably coven, if anything, so a full role reveal will expose roles to the vampire
Willie Tue 17:08

Hibbert wtf
Tue 17:08

I just revealed as GD
Hibbert Tue 17:09

huh you did, when?
Willie Tue 17:09

go look at my first line this morning and tell me I didn't chance that
Tue 17:09

like 10 minutes ago
Hibbert Tue 17:09

nice, your checks pls
Willie Tue 17:10

*headdesk*
Tue 17:10

N2 SLH TR N3 DUFF BEHOLDER
Hibbert Tue 17:11

whattt
Willie Tue 17:11

fyi you can't check the role of smited people
Krusty Tue 17:11

Really? That's wierd
Hibbert Tue 17:11

so who's the PM?
Willie Tue 17:11

TBH I didn't try refreshing the page, i'lll check again tonight
Hibbert Tue 17:11

Ralph?
Willie Tue 17:12

I assume Ralph or Nelson
Hibbert Tue 17:12

could be Ralph, when I was PM before I did forget to vote on my main char
Tue 17:12

but voted on pet
Willie Tue 17:13

*shrugs* it's kinda irrelevant
Hibbert Tue 17:13

so, Willie confirmed Krusty
Tue 17:13

I hope you aint both coven
Tue 17:14

Apu you don't look too good now mate
Willie Tue 17:14

well given there's a WH around that'd be hella risky
Hibbert Tue 17:14

indeed
Tue 17:15

question is, what was Apu before he turned fam
Willie Tue 17:15

dun dun duhhhhhhhh
Hibbert Tue 17:15

Krusty, give us some light mate
Krusty Tue 17:15

I don't know, I used it after he turned
Willie Tue 17:15

some light?
Hibbert Tue 17:17

ok, just realize that Jacqueline never had a chance to speak with Apu
Tue 17:17

I think I believe you both Krusty Willie
Apu Tue 17:18

So it appears it's going to be either Krusty and Willie being conspiring evils, or me and Freddie (once he confirms me, still waiting for that, ugh) being conspiring evils. They are on equal footing, given that there are no other people presenting information that discredit either one of both parties.
Hibbert Tue 17:18

it means we have Apu the Fam, and Barney the coven
Apu Tue 17:18

@Hibbert: of course I had a chance.
Tue 17:18

I was recruited N2, and so I could speak to Jac N3 (last night).
Krusty Tue 17:18

Yeah, Apu should have spoken last night if he was recruited N2
Tue 17:18

But he's evil!
Apu Tue 17:18

I did, Krusty.
Tue 17:19

But you certainly weren't there
Tue 17:19

YOU EVIL CLOWN
Tue 17:19

the clowns are always evil
Tue 17:19

I think this is the strongest argument so far ;)
Database Tue 17:24

TR check including beholder
Tue 17:24

but Willie checked duff is beholder too
Tue 17:24

o_O
Krusty Tue 17:25

My check said there was no Beholders alive
Tue 17:25

but that at least 1 behodler had been put in the game
Tue 17:25

beholder*
Tue 17:26

Willie checked that beholder
Hibbert Tue 17:30

is there any chance Apu was a stalker, before got converted into a Fam?
Krusty Tue 17:31

Yes
Apu Tue 17:32

@Hibbert: it is possible, but I do hope that you realize you're getting into more conjecture here. I'd also like you to confirm that you realize I could've spoken to Jac last night
Krusty Tue 17:33

My TR check only shows roles that are currently in the game. This is why it did not show any Graverobbers. Apu could have been any village role
Hibbert Tue 17:34

@Apu clearly you are outnumbered here, I have no choice but to believe ''our TR and GD''
Tue 17:34

cant think of any way to prove you are lit, even if Freddie confirms he did the visit, you could still be a stalker who got converted into Fam
Apu Tue 17:35

Until Freddie shows up and/or people discredit the 'TR', I can see the sense in that
Tue 17:39

Although I can see the work of at least 1 evil group here, and perhaps coven and vamp (squad) are working together
Database Tue 17:59

i'll go for Apu now
Tue 18:00

krusty seems legit for me
Moderator Tue 18:00

Database votes to lynch Apu
Willie Tue 18:03

if we still have a stalker (hopefully we should) then it seems to me that they should follow Freddie tonight?
Freddie Tue 18:30

hi
Tue 18:30

what do you need from me'
Hibbert Tue 18:36

got to go, wont be back before 9
Tue 18:36

I think I offense both coven and vamp today, could use some protection
Tue 18:37

Not sure about Willie GD claim, but he's a big target too, if lit
Tue 18:38

Prot, pls protect either me or Willie, your choice, give the vamp a nice surprise
Tue 18:39

Reviver, unless we know Djinn is dead, I think you should hold off your power, there's a big chance you could revive a coven member (Djinn swap) or a puppet
Freddie Tue 18:39

wait
Hibbert Tue 18:39

?
Freddie Tue 18:39

apu is telling truth
Hibbert Tue 18:40

you visited Willie N1?
Freddie Tue 18:40

Iwatched willie he was using magic
Tue 18:40

hence why I think he is a liar
Tue 18:40

night 2 I tried to kill him
Tue 18:40

he didn't die
Hibbert Tue 18:40

oh, plot twist
Freddie Tue 18:40

night three I watch bumblee
Tue 18:40

and he used magic
Tue 18:41

now dance my little Mexican bumble bee
Tue 18:41

;)
Hibbert Tue 18:41

hmm what do you mean you kill willie but he didnt die?
Freddie Tue 18:42

I tried to kill him
Tue 18:42

witch hunter
Tue 18:42

he didn't die
Tue 18:42

he is still here.
Tue 18:42

and why I voted fr him yesterday
Krusty Tue 18:42

You killed the beholder
Freddie Tue 18:43

I didn't kill anyone
Tue 18:43

willie is here
Krusty Tue 18:43

They swapped that night
Tue 18:43

You killed Duffman
Freddie Tue 18:43

well then I guess so if you say he is
Tue 18:43

I want willie
Hibbert Tue 18:44

wait, open your character tab, which name is red?
Tue 18:44

*whose
Krusty Tue 18:44

You haven't checked the player that is now willie
Freddie Tue 18:44

no it stopped being red
Hibbert Tue 18:45

currently whose name is red?
Krusty Tue 18:45

Freddie's actions check out, but it doesn't clear Apu or incriminate Willie
Freddie Tue 18:45

I didn't know what to do and when I went to discord kris warn on
Tue 18:45

no one
Tue 18:45

but I think its messed up
Hibbert Tue 18:45

huh, you said Bumblebee was wc user, he should be red, right?
Freddie Tue 18:46

is mod here?
Krusty Tue 18:46

You checked the player that is now Duffman. He was the beholder. You killed him the same night he was swapped into Duffman
Hibbert Tue 18:46

also, why did you trigger the kill on N2? you could have hit seer, or prot, or reviver....
Tue 18:47

any reason?
Freddie Tue 18:47

hold one guys
Tue 18:47

thought I was supposed to
Tue 18:48

I've not been WH before and why would I kill before swap
Tue 18:48

wouldn't that work before
Krusty Tue 18:48

That's just the order of the night actions
Tue 18:49

A witch hunter kill always happens before a swap
Freddie Tue 18:49

uh
Tue 18:49

I suck.
Hibbert Tue 18:49

ok, so Freddie confirm Apu's visit N1, he could still be fam tho
Freddie Tue 18:50

Yes
Hibbert Tue 18:50

I think you are in a weird spot Fred
Freddie Tue 18:50

I did Watch Willie, Night 2 I tried to kill willie, night three willie isn't red anymore
Tue 18:50

and now no one is red
Hibbert Tue 18:50

if I were the witch, I will poison you tonight for sure
Krusty Tue 18:50

not even bumblebeeman?
Freddie Tue 18:51

Nope but it said he used it
Tue 18:51

I know
Tue 18:51

Im going to die
Tue 18:51

But, y'all should know before I do.
Krusty Tue 18:51

Have you double checked? If so try refreshing the page
Freddie Tue 18:51

yes
Tue 18:51

I didn't check who I wanted to anyays
Tue 18:51

it checked bumble
Krusty Tue 18:52

You were redirected?
Freddie Tue 18:52

IS that what that is?
Tue 18:52

I told it to check someone else and it made me look at bumble
Krusty Tue 18:52

You press the button to check aomeone, but in the morning you've checked someone else
Freddie Tue 18:52

I Yes
Tue 18:53

I told it to check Jeremy and it looked at bumble instead.
Hibbert Tue 18:53

hmm
Freddie Tue 18:53

SO. if there is a protector... :D
Tue 18:53

Id like to live again...
Tue 18:53

So to make this clear:
Krusty Tue 18:54

Protector can't stop a witch
Tue 18:54

sorry
Hibbert Tue 18:54

in this case, I dont think you should kill Bumble
Tue 18:54

there's little chance a Succ would redirect you to another coven member
Freddie Tue 18:54

I looked at willie, then I killed willie. but he didn't die and wasn't red anymore (IDK), then I looked at Jeremy(since willie wasn't red anymore) but it made me look at bumble
Tue 18:55

and it said he used Witchcraft but he isn't red on my screen
Krusty Tue 18:55

Your checka make sense, Freddie
Tue 18:55

checks*
Freddie Tue 18:55

I am telling the truth but, I want village to have all my info if I die.
Tue 18:55

which is sound like it...
Hibbert Tue 18:56

Fred, thx for info, but do not kill Bumblebee
Tue 18:57

even if his name turns red tonight
Freddie Tue 18:57

y
Krusty Tue 18:57

Check Barney
Freddie Tue 18:57

willie was red all day yesterday then changed at night
Tue 18:57

Does it normally do that?
Hibbert Tue 18:58

not sure, I think it gets updated at night
Freddie Tue 18:58

he hasn't talked today
Hibbert Tue 18:59

you can either check Barney or Krusty tonight
Krusty Tue 18:59

Taroy reader is a magic user tho?
Hibbert Tue 19:00

err, yeah, sry
Krusty Tue 19:00

:P
Hibbert Tue 19:00

check Barney or Willie
Tue 19:01

I think Krusty is lit, but not sure about Willie
Freddie Tue 19:02

Thats how I feel
Krusty Tue 19:02

No one has counterclaimed him
Hibbert Tue 19:02

yet
Tue 19:03

Ok, got to go now
Tue 19:03

Prot, remember, either me or willie, your choice
Tue 19:04

good luck Fred
Freddie Tue 19:04

:X
Krusty Tue 19:06

If the reviver wants to revive someone tonight, Jaqueline would be a good option. She hasn't been swapped with someone else and it'd give someone to talk to at night :(
Apu Tue 19:06

Alright. So Freddie confirms my visit, but I'm still on the chopping block?
Tue 19:07

I feel there's a lot of bogus going around today.
Krusty Tue 19:07

He hasn't confirmed you
Apu Tue 19:07

And frankly, I don't have the oversight right now to see who is what exactly, and which forces are exactly at play here
Tue 19:07

I hate that
Tue 19:08

I may reconsider my opinion on the role call and demand people say what they are; this will draw out evils in the open
Tue 19:08

@Krusty: I understand that his confirmation necessarily say I'm not evil, but at least it makes your story that much more unlikely
Krusty Tue 19:09

Why?
Apu Tue 19:09

Because for the story to hold up now I must've been a Stalker before I was recruited.
Tue 19:09

Ockam's razor, and all that jazz
Krusty Tue 19:10

or a harlot
Apu Tue 19:10

Or a Harlot, fair enough - so that gives 2 possibilities
Freddie Tue 19:11

neither are witch
Apu Tue 19:12

Doesn't seem too likely, but hey - unlikely is Krusty's motto, mr. 'GR-turning-TR'
Krusty Tue 19:12

or even a beholder
Freddie Tue 19:14

so if I was redrected
Tue 19:14

does that make Jeremy did use witchcraft
Tue 19:14

or bumble did
Krusty Tue 19:15

Bumblebeeman
Freddie Tue 19:16

so he islying
Tue 19:16

he said village
Tue 19:16

?
Krusty Tue 19:16

He didn't claim Vanillager
Tue 19:16

just village aligned
Tue 19:17

There are village roles that use witchcraft like TR, Seer and Protector
Freddie Tue 19:19

ok
Moderator Tue 19:20

Freddie votes to lynch Willie
Freddie Tue 19:20

I'm voting willie again. idk understand the whole red not red thing
Tue 19:20

but I have to vote sorry man if you are truthful
Krusty Tue 19:21

Willie is the GD. You haven't checked this Willie, you checked Willie before the swap
Moderator Tue 19:25

Freddie votes to lynch Barney
Freddie Tue 19:25

ok
Tue 19:26

just random
Tue 19:38

going to sleep
Willie Tue 19:54

well o_0
Tue 19:54

I guess that explains Freddie's agression
Tue 19:54

aggression?
Tue 19:55

aggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrression?
Jeremy Tue 20:04

ok, I am back
Freddie Tue 20:05

I didn't end up in bed
Tue 20:05

but yes
Jeremy Tue 20:05

tbh, i am pretty sick, so I will just go again
Moderator Tue 20:05

Jeremy votes to lynch Monroe
Jeremy Tue 20:06

GL and bye for today
BumblebeeMan Tue 20:20

AYAAAARRRIBBAAAAAA AY AY AAAAAAY
Tue 20:20

I'm back
Tue 20:20

I missed something right?
Krusty Tue 20:31

Yeah some stuff has happened
Lynched Tue 21:02

Apu was lynched by the village
Killed Wed 09:02

Database was killed during the night
Killed Wed 09:02

BumblebeeMan was killed during the night

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