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Luna Fri 08:01

First things first, results from those 4 yesterday. Go.
George Fri 08:01

billage
Fri 08:01

*village
Slughorn Fri 08:02

What
Fri 08:02

Didn't I say 12
Luna Fri 08:02

Slughorn - what was your result?
Fri 08:03

Don't think about it, say it.
Slughorn Fri 08:03

Why are you saying it now?
Luna Fri 08:03

Why not say it straight away?
Slughorn Fri 08:03

Ofc i got village
George Fri 08:03

^^
Luna Fri 08:03

ok
George Fri 08:04

GD should come out if Trel was not a wolf
Slughorn Fri 08:04

Because someone can lie?
Luna Fri 08:04

Yeah
Fri 08:04

let's deal with the claims we have already first maybe
Slughorn Fri 08:05

Luna is feeding the fake one with info
Fri 08:05

By forcing the real one saying it first
Lucius Fri 08:06

Why didn't you wait for all Seer claims to be online?! (As well as potentially at least one more..)
Slughorn Fri 08:07

Ask Luna, she asked for it
Hermione Fri 08:07

Trel was Protector. We either got a fake Seer or BL.
Lucius Fri 08:07

Not much of a test now, is it? Also, interesting to see you exact three together right away.
Hermione Fri 08:07

I dug her.
Luna Fri 08:07

Ok, this makes me happy. Hold up Lucius.
Lucius Fri 08:07

Ah, shit. What on earth was that defense then..
Luna Fri 08:07

I'm happy (and I forced it) because I know one of them is lying anyway.
Fri 08:08

I know one of the claimed seers didn't visit Neville last night.
Fri 08:08

I now don't even need to wait to reveal it, because guess what - it was Harry.
Hermione Fri 08:08

We got swap claim, right?
Moderator Fri 08:08

Lucius votes to lynch Harry
Luna Fri 08:09

Remember when I said I would say "I told you so"?
Fri 08:09

I told you so.
Lucius Fri 08:09

Yeah, George claimed swapped with Fred.
Hermione Fri 08:09

What would have happened if they swapped Trel in grave?
Fri 08:09

To my check, I mean.
Luna Fri 08:10

Hermione - even if that did happen, that's coven using their powers to swap a wolf into a unknown role, which just happens to match the ones she claimed? Impossible.
Lucius Fri 08:10

Hmm.. They may have, but that still means she is Protector, but would be in Fred's body AFTER your check.
Fri 08:10

(So now)
Moderator Fri 08:10

Luna votes to lynch Harry
Hermione Fri 08:10

That's a nice detail to consider.
Luna Fri 08:10

Harry is the fraudiest of frauds.
Fri 08:10

Less trustworthy than my dad's newspaper.
Lucius Fri 08:11

Haha
Hermione Fri 08:11

Let's lynch one of the four Seer and let me dig them up for further information.
Luna Fri 08:11

It has to be Harry.
Moderator Fri 08:11

Hermione votes to lynch Harry
Luna Fri 08:11

You found data showing he probably lied. I know he didn't visit Neville last night.
Fri 08:11

Now he'll claim to NOT be Harry and that he was swapped.
Hermione Fri 08:11

Back to my original president <3
Fri 08:11

I dig that.
Luna Fri 08:11

But I'll push and he'll call me "harsh" again and that will reveal he is still him.
Lucius Fri 08:12

I think someone should check Dobby, he was very pro-crazy seers setup.
Moderator Fri 08:13

Hagrid votes to lynch Harry
Lucius Fri 08:13

(I still thought he was the plan. Still need to read the end few hours of yesterday bah)
Hagrid Fri 08:13

Fred. Who did you visit night 1
Hermione Fri 08:13

When should I check some night kills over lynches?
Fri 08:14

Now that prot is down, I might be dying next.
Lucius Fri 08:15

And they may have already swapped her with Fred.
MadEye Fri 08:15

Feels like Harry was a throwaway puppet
Luna Fri 08:17

Maybe MadEye, but we have to lynch with the info we have, no?
Lucius Fri 08:17

There's a good point. We have Severus too?
MadEye Fri 08:17

The 4 seers could be accounted for by 2 puppets, a bh, and a true seer
Luna Fri 08:17

Nope MadEye
Hermione Fri 08:17

Well, in that case, if Harry ends up as our lynch, should I check Fred anyway as that'd confirm him if he showed up as wolf OR coven?
Luna Fri 08:17

because I saw the other 3 visit Neville
Fri 08:17

Puppets can't visit
Fri 08:18

so maybe seer/seer/BH
MadEye Fri 08:18

Ah
Fri 08:18

Ohh
Luna Fri 08:18

or seer/other role/BH
Fri 08:18

maybe it's a bold play by a DW
Fri 08:18

or other visiting wolf
Fri 08:18

in fact, it'd be good to hear from Neville on if he has a night action and if he was blocked
Moderator Fri 08:18

MadEye votes to lynch Harry
MadEye Fri 08:19

I don't have a better person to vote atm, that may change
Luna Fri 08:19

See now why I was pushing for them to all go on one person, btw?
Hermione Fri 08:19

Check lynch or check Fred? I might not get on later.
Luna Fri 08:19

Hermi - whatever you prefer at this point
Fri 08:19

there's one result wolves might like less
Fri 08:19

if we pick it, they might be more likely to kill you
Fri 08:19

so makea decision and don't tell us
Lucius Fri 08:20

BH also has good reason to lynch a coven, so we could go for Severus in hope that he is a more valuable member.
Neville Fri 08:20

I wasn't RB last night
Luna Fri 08:20

he's not guaranteed coven though Lucius
Fri 08:20

in the same way Trelawney wasn't a wolf
Lucius Fri 08:20

Hmm, but two of the same result?
Luna Fri 08:20

whilst those who got that result DID visit Neville, it doesn't mean they're seers
Fri 08:20

or sane seers
Fri 08:20

maybe we DO have a 4 seer setup and one got killed N1
Lucius Fri 08:21

I am still concerned about the delayed game start. I wonder if some sort of Coven BL was created.
Fri 08:21

But I find Severus' claim terrible. "Isn't it obvious?" Hah..
Luna Fri 08:21

I agree
Moderator Fri 08:22

Neville votes to lynch Harry
Lucius Fri 08:22

I suppose I ought to open my mind more to the possibility of the insane Seers
MadEye Fri 08:24

2nd night in a row with 1 kill is odd, I expected all 3 evils
Luna Fri 08:25

could be just 2 and coven biding their time
Fri 08:25

with a djinn they're somewhat safe if they need to swap
Fri 08:25

save kills until they need to coven-SS out
Fri 08:25

or to get a big impact on one night when we least expect it
MadEye Fri 08:27

If there's no vamp we can probably expect a fair few witches
Lucius Fri 08:27

It wont be too bad if Harry is a puppet as we are, at least, taking away their hidey holes.
Luna Fri 08:27

just waiting on wormtail's visit result, right?
Fri 08:27

since we don't care what Harry says
Lucius Fri 08:28

Might have been amusing to hear it either way.
Luna Fri 08:28

I mean, I'm sure he'll try
Fri 08:29

here I am, being harsh
Fri 08:29

(I'm putting zero weight in yesterday now, btw, now I know he's not village. I might have apologised if he was being genuine.)
Fri 08:31

Thinking on it, I do kinda get Severus' point
Fri 08:31

about two seers targetting him at once
Fri 08:31

and if we DO have a BH in the mix of the remaining 3
Fri 08:31

you'd say it probably was one of those 2
Fri 08:31

and probably more likely the last one to claim
Fri 08:32

because they might have even checked someone else then just jumped on the train, knowing they could pass my test the next night
Harry Fri 08:35

Thanks.
Fri 08:35

Uhm this whole reveal thing makes a lot of sense if you guys don't wait for all the seers.
Luna Fri 08:35

Uhm, it makes a lot of sense when I know you're lying
Harry Fri 08:35

I got roleblocked.
Luna Fri 08:36

ok
Fri 08:36

so the person you saw as a wolf
Fri 08:36

has been seen in the graveyard as a protector
Harry Fri 08:36

O.O
Luna Fri 08:37

coven wouldn't switch a wolf into a random role, which happens to (unknown to anyone) match the role of the lynched person claimed
Harry Fri 08:37

Well nothing of value was lost with that defense
Luna Fri 08:37

I'm not saying I don't believe you.
Fri 08:37

But will you accept that there is a good chance Trelawney is NOT a wolf?
Harry Fri 08:41

got no time at the moment. will check back later.
Luna Fri 08:42

lol
Moderator Fri 08:42

Luna votes to lynch Severus
Luna Fri 08:42

that's not a real vote
Fri 08:43

it's a "taking my vote off Harry" vote
Fri 08:43

because he being blocked is feasible, I jumped the gun
Fri 08:43

maybe we're back to the 4 seer concept
Fri 08:43

making Harry naive/insane
Fri 08:49

maybe I didn't told you so
Fri 08:49

but that also means Harry thought I was being harsh yesterday for real, which makes me sad.
Fri 08:50

and he's still not willing to see that his result might not be real
Harry Fri 08:50

Ok got some more minutes. Don't worry about the harsh part, wasn't meant to indicate I'm actually insulted. More like you were very very strict with what you wanted us to do. I found your reaction a bit too agressive for two seer claims.
Hagrid Fri 08:53

Ok more fun for the pot?
Harry Fri 08:54

Apparently the prot is dead ;-;
Fri 08:54

According to Hermie
Hagrid Fri 08:55

pot
Harry Fri 08:55

oh
Fri 08:55

I don't smoke, thx
Hagrid Fri 08:55

as it more fun into the mix
Fri 08:55

more controversey
Fri 08:56

Sluggles is LIT or a DW
Fri 08:56

George is a liar
Fri 08:56

Severus was a coven or a victim
Harry Fri 08:57

that's a lot of stuff, can you elaborate?
Fri 08:57

or is this just some random controversy?
Hagrid Fri 09:11

It is odd
Fri 09:11

But I need to hear from Fred/George to confirm
Fri 09:12

Before I spill the beans
Fri 09:12

Because I need to know about George-was-Fred. Otherwise that swap may be a lie
Fri 09:13

I will say that I visited Fred on N1
Harry Fri 09:13

Interesting
Hagrid Fri 09:13

Wanna get high?
Luna Fri 09:17

Harry please
Fri 09:17

you know I pushed you to say the words "I am seer"?
Fri 09:17

please tell me that you see how you could get an insane/naive result?
Harry Fri 09:18

Well I'd probably have to eat a shoe on that one :/ or BL?
Luna Fri 09:18

I just need you to understand that it's possible
Fri 09:19

so you're 100% certain that you're a sane seer?
Fri 09:19

and Hermione is lying
Fri 09:19

or Trelawney was swapped in the graveyard?
Fri 09:19

which of these feels most likely to you?
Harry Fri 09:19

No, not 100% but I still find it odd to include insane seers. What bothers me the most is the double check on sever.
Luna Fri 09:19

because really, if you believe what you're saying, you should be voting for Hermione right now
Harry Fri 09:21

I want hagrid story first before I vote anyone
Luna Fri 09:22

Wait, slughorn voted Trelawney yesterday, despite also claiming seer
Fri 09:22

that makes NO sense
Harry Fri 09:23

Oh sh... true... how??'
Luna Fri 09:24

Unless you believe there's 2 sane seers
Fri 09:24

there's no other way to justify that
Fri 09:29

Also - people who voted for Trelawney AND Harry (already): Lucius, Hermione, MadEye, Neville
Fri 09:29

now.. I fucked up and I jumped early
Fri 09:30

but none of the above caught me on my mistake either
Fri 09:30

and considering my view on those who voted for Trelawney... that makes me suspicious
MadEye Fri 09:31

There's no way the gd check could be effected by a swap
Moderator Fri 09:31

MadEye votes to lynch George
MadEye Fri 09:32

I'm willing to maybe accept the prospect of insane seers
Fri 09:34

Hagrid visited George/Fred and slugmaster?
Hagrid Fri 10:24

I dont think trelawney was swapped in the GY
Fri 10:24

Whats that Madeye?
Ron Fri 10:26

Can we just get something out of the way...
Fri 10:27

Late game start is probably because we were waiting for someone to show up
Fri 10:27

I think it's *very unlikely* that it's because mod was implementing a new role
Fri 10:28

Plus that's #meta anyway
Hagrid Fri 10:28

:S
Fri 10:29

Whats the scary bit
Fri 10:29

Insane seer omplementations
Fri 10:31

Ok
Lily Fri 11:30

lynching protector is not good :( I'll vote severus since we got 2 checks on him. his gr claim is naught until he can prove it in some way. I hope not miss nightfall today, forgot to check again yest.
Moderator Fri 11:30

Lily votes to lynch Severus
Hagrid Fri 11:37

Ok
Luna Fri 12:00

Lily...
Harry Fri 12:00

Hagrid, can you give us some more detail? maybe the people you're waiting for don't show up because you haven't pressured them yet.
Luna Fri 12:00

"lynching prot is not good" then you go and vote for someone who's guilty by the same logic as the protector was yesterday?
Severus Fri 12:05

With Herms givin me clues about the GY N can steal Proto tonight and proof myself. I'm still not coven and will never be. I still think Slugs is lying through his teeth. But Hagrid already has evidence about George.
Moderator Fri 12:05

Severus votes to lynch George
Hagrid Fri 12:10

I visited Fred night one.
Fri 12:10

I know who he visited
Fri 12:10

I want to prove if he really was swapped or not
Fri 12:10

His findings have implications. On two of the other people who have revealed
Lucius Fri 12:17

Is it not Severus he visited?
Luna Fri 12:20

Not if there was no swap, I guess?
Fri 12:20

but yeah, he's already claimed Hagrid
Hagrid Fri 12:24

It is not serverus he visited
Fri 12:24

He visited slughorn
Fri 12:25

Hence why I asked if he was in the slug club
Fri 12:25

Did he state that he visited serverus?
Fri 12:26

Because I didn't read that
Luna Fri 12:26

He's one of our seer claims
Hagrid Fri 12:26

He didn't say mich
Luna Fri 12:26

Harry => Werewolf = Trelawney (Protector) Thu 17:49 Slughorn => Coven = Severus (Graverobber) Thu 17:49 George => Coven = Severus (Graverobber) Thu 17:49 Wormtail => Village = Ginny (?)
Hagrid Fri 12:43

Nobody here
Luna Fri 12:47

Nobody else anyway
Fri 12:47

I'm always here
Fri 12:47

I never leave
Harry Fri 12:48

I wonder if I should actually get annoyed by 4 votes till on me
Fri 12:49

-_-
Luna Fri 12:50

lol
Fri 12:50

after so many people piled on Trelawney?
Fri 12:50

you don't get to be annoyed about this
Moderator Fri 12:50

Luna votes to lynch Nymphadora
Harry Fri 12:51

Still think nothing of value was lost.
Luna Fri 12:51

moving my vote off Severus, since someone voted them legitimately
Harry Fri 12:51

Her defense was so unmotivated
Luna Fri 12:51

you don't think losing a protector is important?
Fri 12:51

she had NINE votes on her
Fri 12:51

lots of people wouldn't have bothered arguing
Harry Fri 12:51

as prot you need to read the game
Luna Fri 12:51

also a prot claim should be enough to discredit a lynch if it's not certain
Harry Fri 12:51

if you don't care, you don't prot well
Luna Fri 12:51

or enough to make us question it (like I did)
Harry Fri 12:52

No it should not, since every second wolf claims Prot
Luna Fri 12:52

did nine people not beleive the claim?
Lucius Fri 12:52

How sure are we of Hermione? Severus' last message sounds almost as if she's in cahoots with him. Another GD coming out may be worth the cost.
Harry Fri 12:53

I was convinced by my check, and I voted with conviction. I'd lynch her again. Every game, every day.
Luna Fri 12:53

"in cahoots"?
Lucius Fri 12:53

Hmmm.
Luna Fri 12:53

I mean, that seems to be thrown at anyone playing devil's advocate right now
Slughorn Fri 12:54

I need your day 1 check @Luna
Luna Fri 12:54

I got shit for "defending Trelawney"
Fri 12:54

no you don't Slughorn, it's irrelevant
Fri 12:54

I'd have shared it already if it was useful
Slughorn Fri 12:54

? why is it
Fri 12:54

Share, we might come up with something
Luna Fri 12:54

no-one visited the person I visited on N1
Lucius Fri 12:54

It may help prove you. You could still be part of the wolves who know if Harry were truly blocked
Slughorn Fri 12:55

Who
Luna Fri 12:55

I don't need to be proven
Fri 12:55

this claim won't prove me
Moderator Fri 12:55

Lucius votes to lynch Dobby
Slughorn Fri 12:55

....?
Lucius Fri 12:55

Moving to my own suspect until we have clearer vision
Slughorn Fri 12:56

What if you\re lying
Luna Fri 12:56

well that's what you've gotta work out
Fri 12:56

I'm not gonna give info to the non-villagers for no reason
Slughorn Fri 12:56

Then tell me
Fri 12:56

\give me a reason to believe you
Fri 12:56

?
Luna Fri 12:57

I'd rather wait for a non-villager to say "I visted X on N1" and I can say that's incorrect
Slughorn Fri 12:57

That\s what wolves do
Luna Fri 12:57

giving you a 50/50 at least
Slughorn Fri 12:57

waiting for info to fake up stuff
Luna Fri 12:57

but if I tell you who I visited
Fri 12:57

wolves know to avoid that claim
Fri 12:57

I'd rather catch them in their lie
Fri 12:58

and have you trust ME in the 50/50 becuase of my other play in the game
Slughorn Fri 12:58

Or i catch you in your lies?
Luna Fri 12:58

how can you catch me?
Fri 12:58

You're seer
Slughorn Fri 12:58

Checking you...
Luna Fri 12:58

lol HARRY confirmed me
Slughorn Fri 12:58

And you\re lynching him
Fri 12:58

see the logic ?
Luna Fri 12:58

no I'm not
Fri 12:58

who am I voting for?
Fri 12:59

I knew Harry didn't visit Neville before he claimed being RB'd
Slughorn Fri 12:59

You\re indirectlz lznching him
Luna Fri 12:59

technically we could be different evil factions, but there's just no way we'd be doing this if we're both wolves
Fri 12:59

no I'm NOT
Fri 12:59

I don't think we should lynch him right now
Fri 12:59

I've said that
Neville Fri 12:59

I feel used
Luna Fri 12:59

let's discuss
Lucius Fri 13:00

What do you both think about the Hagrid/George's contradiction? (George(still as Fred) visiting Slug n1 but stating that he visited Severus)
Luna Fri 13:00

I don't see why Hagrid would bring it up if it wasn't true
Slughorn Fri 13:00

Hmmmmm
Luna Fri 13:00

Hagrid's claim is in line with my result last night in that George DOES have a visiting role.
Hagrid Fri 13:02

Fred visited slughorn
Harry Fri 13:04

Oh, but he claimed he visited Sever?
Luna Fri 13:04

well, also claimed he was swapped
Moderator Fri 13:04

Slughorn votes to lynch Severus
Luna Fri 13:04

so if the swap is true, he's lying about the visit
Fri 13:05

but if the visit is true, he's lying about the swap?
Harry Fri 13:05

Why is slug voting sever, whan hagrid says that George/Fred lied?
Slughorn Fri 13:05

...
Fri 13:05

I#m the one who checked Severus...
Fri 13:05

Urgh, not being home sucks
Harry Fri 13:06

But fredgeorge said the same right?
Slughorn Fri 13:06

I#m using German kezboard
Harry Fri 13:06

this was the second check on Sever
Fri 13:06

if I remember correctly
Slughorn Fri 13:06

Yes
Harry Fri 13:07

So what you make out of this? Why did George follow you?
Lucius Fri 13:07

Because of George we have assumed there are four Seer claims, if he is Beholder or such he is causing confusion amongst his own village
Harry Fri 13:07

You think he's lying or hagrid?
Slughorn Fri 13:07

How do I know? Ask him!
Harry Fri 13:07

I want your opinion sluggy
Slughorn Fri 13:08

Beholder_ or something
Hagrid Fri 13:09

I'm still talking about night one
Lucius Fri 13:09

Yes, night one
Hagrid Fri 13:10

I'm on phone so can't find what Fred George said
Fri 13:10

But he was vague
Dumbledore Fri 13:11

Ok, so Hermione claims GD and Trel was prot
Slughorn Fri 13:11

I#ll contribute more tmr
Dumbledore Fri 13:11

I don't buy ''lucky'' BL night 1 with 23 persons
Lucius Fri 13:11

George Thu 11:09 I am Fred George Thu 11:09 swapped
Slughorn Fri 13:11

Might not be mzself tonight
Lucius Fri 13:11

George Thu 12:44 Also, I really am swapped, this is not a rp thing
Fri 13:11

Thu 18:36 If the severus is coven, he's going to to long gone and swapped away by tomorrow George Thu 18:46 Which he is Thu 18:46 2 Seer claims saw it+
Dumbledore Fri 13:11

so either Hermione or Harry is evil
Fri 13:12

do we have any other intel on them?
Harry Fri 13:12

wait what?
Neville Fri 13:12

I can confirme Hermy
Dumbledore Fri 13:12

What claim you?
Lucius Fri 13:12

George leaves no ambiguity. "2 Seer claims saw it" - Not that he could be Seer who confirmed Slug, or Beholder who beheld Slug.
Moderator Fri 13:13

Dumbledore votes to lynch Harry
Harry Fri 13:13

Has a beholder ever claimed seer?
Fri 13:13

Dumbledore wtf are you doing?
Dumbledore Fri 13:13

wtf am I doing?
Lucius Fri 13:13

Lying to the village rarely ends well, and this is a game of experienced players.
Dumbledore Fri 13:13

Hermione claims that Trel isn't wolf
Fri 13:13

so you lied?
Harry Fri 13:14

I didn't. If I wanted to lie, I could have "prepared" my defense yesterday with jumping on the insane seer theroy.
Dumbledore Fri 13:14

So what's your explanation for Trel being prot, not wolf?
Harry Fri 13:14

we discussed that today already
Lucius Fri 13:15

Dumbledore, can you confirm Hermione?
Dumbledore Fri 13:15

I skimmed, nothing convinces me yet
Fri 13:15

No, I don't, Neville said he confirms her
Lucius Fri 13:15

Neville was also the "test subject" of the other Seers. We need a second test.
Dumbledore Fri 13:16

test subject?
Fri 13:16

Are we agree that Hermione and Harry have a conflict, and 1 must be evil?
Luna Fri 13:16

no
Dumbledore Fri 13:17

why not?
Luna Fri 13:17

Harry claims to have been blocked
Dumbledore Fri 13:17

so what?
Luna Fri 13:17

so he could be insane/paranoid seer
Neville Fri 13:17

he could be lying tho
Dumbledore Fri 13:17

everyone can claim to have beend blocked, last time I check
Luna Fri 13:17

true
Dumbledore Fri 13:18

I don't think insane/paranoid seer works in multi factions game with coven ++
Fri 13:18

it's a possibility, but a tiny one
Harry Fri 13:18

Didn't someone state yesterday that it actually does?
Dumbledore Fri 13:19

I rather think there's a hard conflict between Hermione and Harry, 1 must be evil
Harry Fri 13:19

Ok let me ask some questions
Fri 13:19

we got 4 seer claims yesterday. How many you think are legit?
Dumbledore Fri 13:19

2 maybe
Harry Fri 13:19

which ones?
Dumbledore Fri 13:20

not sure
Fri 13:20

so?
Harry Fri 13:20

So you've decided to not know who to trust, but definitely not trust me?
Fri 13:21

That seems pretty selective
Dumbledore Fri 13:21

You haven't done anything to earn my trust yet, Mr Potter
Fri 13:21

and right now
Fri 13:21

you have a conflict with Hermione
Fri 13:21

that's all I know
Fri 13:21

I doubt the other seers are lit, maybe 1 BH 1 puppet
Fri 13:21

but we haven't found conflict with them yet
Fri 13:21

so we work with what we have here
Harry Fri 13:22

wait you think the others are BH and puppets??
Dumbledore Fri 13:22

I guess
Harry Fri 13:22

what am I then? Vamp?
Fri 13:23

Demonlord? hellhound?
Dumbledore Fri 13:23

2 in 4 should be fake
Luna Fri 13:23

Dumbledore, you're assuming so much
Dumbledore Fri 13:23

You could be 1 of the fakes
Fri 13:23

I don't assume anything
Luna Fri 13:23

and you're locked in on Harry for some reason
Dumbledore Fri 13:23

FACT IS: Conflict between Harry AND Hermione
Luna Fri 13:23

not a fact
Dumbledore Fri 13:24

not a fact?
Lucius Fri 13:24

Also conflict between Hagrid and George.
Luna Fri 13:24

you're assuming that there is no insane/paranoid seer
Fri 13:24

this is NOT a regular game
Dumbledore Fri 13:24

I already said
Lucius Fri 13:24

(a bit more concrete, also)
Dumbledore Fri 13:24

I don't buy insane/paranoid seer in a 3+ factions game
Fri 13:24

someone stated that yesterday already
Fri 13:25

those roles aint design for 3+ faction game, yet
Luna Fri 13:25

Lucius - I'd need someone who plays more regularly than me to confirm the swap/night visit process to ensure that the Hagrid/George disagreement is solid
Fri 13:25

but I agree there's possibly something there
Dumbledore Fri 13:25

@LUna so what do you suggest? we let both Harry and Hermione live today?
Luna Fri 13:26

I think it's feasible
Lucius Fri 13:26

The trick to making sense of swaps is to assume a person behind the avatar, the check goes to the person and not to the avatar, so if the person inside is stalked, the stalk/shot/check will follow them, even if they end up in a new avatar by the end. So it's definitely George he will have followed.
Fri 13:27

(stalked/shot/checked* etc)
Dumbledore Fri 13:27

ok, so who should I vote, for now?
Fri 13:27

we ain't gonna ASV today, are we?
Lucius Fri 13:28

I want to go for Severus but I'd like this George mess cleared up before I need to leave.
Fri 13:28

But as I've been saying, even if he is Bloodhound, the Severus result would be true.
Luna Fri 13:28

Dumbledore- I'm not gonna tell you who to vote for
Fri 13:29

but I will point out if I think you're voting for someone for bad reasons
Dumbledore Fri 13:29

I don't think voting for Harry is a bad reason
Luna Fri 13:29

I'm not ruling out that Harry could be DW
Fri 13:29

or rather, just a wolf
Dumbledore Fri 13:29

what good an insane seer do for the village? besides being a villager?
Luna Fri 13:29

lying
Fri 13:29

but we can't prove it by any means, yet
Harry Fri 13:29

It's a balancing factor
Dumbledore Fri 13:30

best case scenario, we get a wolf/evil
Luna Fri 13:30

fuck it
Fri 13:30

let's lynch all those who claimed seer
Dumbledore Fri 13:30

worst case scenario, we lynch him, GD digs him, we know that insane seer exists
Lucius Fri 13:30

That's tempting.
Fri 13:30

Would it just say "Seer" though?
Dumbledore Fri 13:30

I don't really trust Hermione either, but Neville said he confirms her
Luna Fri 13:30

or just choose to ignore all of them
Fri 13:31

I would HOPE that GD sees their sanity too
Lucius Fri 13:31

Neville hasn't specified how...
Dumbledore Fri 13:31

now you assume to much Luna
Luna Fri 13:31

and Neville isnt' cleared himself
Fri 13:31

what? I said I hope
Harry Fri 13:31

what is neville anyway?
Luna Fri 13:31

no claim
Dumbledore Fri 13:31

that's why I'm asking Neville what is his claim
Luna Fri 13:31

but he claims a power, since he claimed to NOT be blocked
Neville Fri 13:35

Oh, now Y'all interested in what is inside me... what I really am...
Luna Fri 13:35

guys
Fri 13:35

I found it
Neville Fri 13:35

now you don't just pick and see me as an object
Luna Fri 13:35

"insane seers village as wolf and non-village as village."
Neville Fri 13:35

bc i'm hot and aged well..
Luna Fri 13:35

anyone got all the seer claims to hand?
Neville Fri 13:36

I'm with Dumby
Fri 13:36

Lets lynch Harry
Luna Fri 13:36

Neville, a claim would be great
Neville Fri 13:36

Let Hermione dig him
Harry Fri 13:36

I just find it odd that Dumbledore ignores Hagrid's check on George
Luna Fri 13:36

if you're saying you can clear hermione
Hagrid Fri 13:37

Ok. Since it's been said. I beheld Fred. He did not see what slug saw
Harry Fri 13:37

WAIT WHAT
Fri 13:37

This is huge.
Hagrid Fri 13:37

I a man a beholder. N1 visit Fred- saw his message on target slughorn
Harry Fri 13:38

what is slug?
Luna Fri 13:38

claimed seer
Harry Fri 13:38

No, I wanna know what hagrid saw
Fri 13:38

I know what he claimed
Luna Fri 13:38

oh
Hagrid Fri 13:38

N2 - beheld Sirius
Fri 13:38

I can't reveal- otherwise Fred's can clear himself.
Harry Fri 13:39

But fred is not showing up, wasn't he on much earlier yesterday?
Hagrid Fri 13:39

But Fred did not check Severus. Nor behold what slug saw
Fri 13:39

So he's on my list
Fri 13:39

Slug is on my good list
Harry Fri 13:40

Dumbledore, neville any comments on this? Or still fixed on lynching me?
Lucius Fri 13:41

Slug and Harry don't actually contradict one another - both could be true and each found coven/wolf respectively. The ones to jump on Slug's find could be wolves on Trelawney's team, including Hermione
Neville Fri 13:41

The safest choice is to lynch you, sorry
Fri 13:41

What Hagrids says is not conclusive
Lucius Fri 13:41

The George result can't imply ML can it?
Fri 13:42

The only case in which lying to one's own village has been forgiven was through Masonry.
Luna Fri 13:42

right
Fri 13:42

because that is kinda a seer role
Fri 13:42

in a way
Neville Fri 13:42

You're missing the point Lucius
Lucius Fri 13:43

That is because there is a chance Harry is truly Seer. There's less chance Severus is village.
Neville Fri 13:44

Again, you;re missing the point
Fri 13:44

Harry can't be seer
Harry Fri 13:44

for you two everying which doesn't revolve around lynching me is beside the point
Luna Fri 13:44

yes he can
Harry Fri 13:44

because you guys only point is lynching me -_-
Neville Fri 13:45

Luna you said he didnt't visit me
Luna Fri 13:45

right
Fri 13:45

he claimed to have been blocked
Fri 13:45

that may or may not be true
Fri 13:45

he CAN or CANNOT be seer
Fri 13:45

we just don't know
Neville Fri 13:45

Who was RB'd n?
Lucius Fri 13:45

Neville, I forgot you hinted at a role earlier. What is it?
Luna Fri 13:45

maybe no-one was blocked N1
Fri 13:45

that's a standard DW strat
Neville Fri 13:46

Why would that be hmmmmm
Luna Fri 13:46

don't reveal yourself until you have to
Fri 13:46

then do when you can disrupt village's plans
Lucius Fri 13:46

No. He claims he can confirm Hermione. We need that.
Luna Fri 13:46

it's not a complex idea
Fri 13:46

Lucius, I agree
Neville Fri 13:47

Harry made us lynch Prot, why would I as a DW Block Harry?
Lucius Fri 13:47

You're claiming DW?
Luna Fri 13:47

no-one said you're DW
Fri 13:47

what?
Neville Fri 13:47

When I could just let him keep pointing out village to be wolves
Luna Fri 13:47

Neville, you need to claim
Fri 13:48

although I think I know what the claim is gonna be
Lucius Fri 13:48

(Then again, if he confirms Hermione and both are evil, we will never know the truth about Harry. A living test could be better)
Luna Fri 13:48

at this point, shit maybe a mass claim isn't the worst idea
Fri 13:48

Lucius - I'd rather have the claim and weigh it out
Neville Fri 13:48

We are all evil than
Fri 13:49

Then
George Fri 13:49

Quickly jumping in
Fri 13:49

Sorry for not being online earlier, I was asleep
Neville Fri 13:49

Check voting patron
George Fri 13:49

I read till Hagrids check on me
Neville Fri 13:49

I think I was one of the first to vote trelwney
Luna Fri 13:49

Neville, you voted Trelawney
Neville Fri 13:49

yes
Luna Fri 13:49

you're as to blame for that lynch as anyone else on it
Fri 13:50

you were FIFTH
Fri 13:50

of nine
Fri 13:50

"one of the first"
Neville Fri 13:50

So why would I lynch my teamate?
Lucius Fri 13:50

You're saying Trelawney is a wolf now?
Neville Fri 13:50

No, you are
Lucius Fri 13:50

How did you confirm Hermione?
Neville Fri 13:50

You are saying me and Hermy are conspiring against harry
George Fri 13:50

I did visit Slug, I was hoping to get called out, forgot to reveal it yesterday
Moderator Fri 13:51

George votes to lynch Harry
Luna Fri 13:51

Neville
Lucius Fri 13:51

Hoping to get called out? That's new.
George Fri 13:51

Confirm more roles etc.
Luna Fri 13:51

you brought this on yourself by claiming Hermione was cleared by you
Fri 13:51

tell. us. why
Fri 13:52

I knew I should have started writing a list
Fri 13:52

I need notes to keep track of all this
George Fri 13:52

So Hagrid is really a Stalker
Luna Fri 13:53

no
Fri 13:53

he claimed beholder, didn't he/
Fri 13:53

?
George Fri 13:54

Oh
Fri 13:54

Sounded like a stalker to me. need to catch up
Fri 14:01

ok, skimmed over most of it
Fri 14:01

so we don't have 9 votes on Harry because he could be insane Seer?
Hagrid Fri 14:02

George
Harry Fri 14:02

Nice distraction George bro
Hagrid Fri 14:02

Night 1 visit please
George Fri 14:02

Slughorn
Hagrid Fri 14:02

And you're role
George Fri 14:03

Seer
Fri 14:03

@Harry who is the one distracting here?
Harry Fri 14:03

You
Fri 14:03

I think you're BH
George Fri 14:03

You didn't think abt being insane when you lynched a Protector claim
Harry Fri 14:04

You checked slug, and when slug claimed you knew what he was and just went with it.
Fri 14:04

Why would you say the wrong check'
George Fri 14:04

And why would I do that???????????
Hagrid Fri 14:04

George result
Harry Fri 14:06

*jeopardy music*
George Fri 14:06

n1: Slughorn village
Fri 14:07

n2: Neville village
Hagrid Fri 14:07

Ok. I think George's Good
Fri 14:07

Agree
George Fri 14:08

ok
Hagrid Fri 14:08

With N2
Fri 14:08

N1
Luna Fri 14:08

wait
Fri 14:08

Geoge, yesterday you said Severus was coven
Harry Fri 14:09

That's why I think he's BH
Fri 14:09

he obviously knew what Slug is
Luna Fri 14:09

according to Sirius's list here:
Harry Fri 14:09

but checking Slug as seer doesn't give him a lynch
Luna Fri 14:09

Harry => Werewolf = Trelawney (Protector) Thu 17:49 Slughorn => Coven = Severus (Graverobber) Thu 17:49 George => Coven = Severus (Graverobber) Thu 17:49 Wormtail => Village = Ginny (?)
George Fri 14:09

Harry, can you please stop spamming the chat?
Harry Fri 14:09

Spamming the chat?
Luna Fri 14:09

so Hagrid - I think he's changed his mind on what he's claiming to match up with your results today
George Fri 14:10

No!
Harry Fri 14:10

WHY did you say you checked Sever?
George Fri 14:10

BC I knew that Slug was right
Fri 14:10

And I was hoping to confirm others
Luna Fri 14:10

why?
Fri 14:11

or how did you know Slug was right?
George Fri 14:11

Because he turned up as village
Luna Fri 14:11

so you think we had 2 sane seers in one game?
Fri 14:11

and the others were lying?
Fri 14:11

becuase insane seer is still village, paranoid seer is still village
Fri 14:11

maybe you're insane
Fri 14:11

and he's lying
Harry Fri 14:11

Or he's DW
Luna Fri 14:12

Rubin, I hate you
Harry Fri 14:12

never lie to the village they said
Moderator Fri 14:12

Harry votes to lynch George
George Fri 14:13

How am I DW?
Harry Fri 14:13

No you
Luna Fri 14:14

I hate you all
Harry Fri 14:14

But after N1 check Slug could have been DW, and you trusted him without second doubt and decided to lie
George Fri 14:15

Harry, you talk too much
Luna Fri 14:15

nah that's a fair cop
Fri 14:15

seer sees DW as village, right?
Harry Fri 14:15

yes
Fri 14:16

George, can you stop the personal attacks? I have the same right to talk here as you do. Plz respect that.
George Fri 14:16

Didn't think about that
Fri 14:16

ok
Fri 14:16

Harry, you should accept that your credibility is super low
Fri 14:17

So I think you are just trying to blame everything that is possible to blame on me
Fri 14:17

While ignoring what you did
Fri 14:17

Did you apologize for lynching Trel?
Harry Fri 14:18

No, would do it again.
Luna Fri 14:18

Harry
Fri 14:18

that's exactly why George lied
Harry Fri 14:18

If I find a wolf I lynch him.
Luna Fri 14:18

because he trusted his own result
George Fri 14:18

WTF
Luna Fri 14:18

blindly
Fri 14:18

you're being hypocritical to the max
Harry Fri 14:18

his result is not "Slughorn is seer"
Fri 14:19

except he's BH
Fri 14:19

his result is "Slughorn is village"
Fri 14:19

What if someone does a yolo and does a fake claiM'
Fri 14:19

to revert it later?
George Fri 14:19

Your result could be changed by BL, crazy Seers, etc.
Harry Fri 14:19

Yes, but it's still more useful to lynch
George Fri 14:20

Even after the Protector claim?
Harry Fri 14:20

Every wolf claims prot or reviver
Fri 14:20

it's almost a meme
Fri 14:20

together with HM
George Fri 14:20

reviver????
Luna Fri 14:20

Neville, it's your turn to claim
Fri 14:20

Harry, George, can we leave this for a while?
Harry Fri 14:20

yeah gives you one more night and you just shft
Fri 14:21

Early seer results often catch important wolf roles, getting shapeshifters, alphas etc.
Luna Fri 14:22

I want Neville's claim
Fri 14:23

I would also love another summary of today's seer result claims
George Fri 14:23

Hearing from Neville would be good
Neville Fri 14:23

hi
Luna Fri 14:23

please just claim
Fri 14:24

if you can clear Hermione, the chain reaction is useful
Neville Fri 14:24

Trelawney was our Prot
Luna Fri 14:25

did you find this out
Fri 14:25

or did you confirm that Hermione visited Trelawney?
Neville Fri 14:26

I found out when I dug her salty dead arse
Fri 14:28

you see.. I'm also a GD
Fri 14:28

And my results match with Hermys
Fri 14:29

hence why I can confirme her
Luna Fri 14:29

butyou're not confirmed
Fri 14:29

awesome
Neville Fri 14:29

Am i?
Fri 14:29

Am I.... AM I NOT?
Fri 14:30

After y'll messed up with me last night?
Harry Fri 14:30

?
Neville Fri 14:30

Gergy already said I'm clear
Harry Fri 14:31

Being clear doesn't mean you being right
Fri 14:31

it doesn't even mean you're clear
Neville Fri 14:31

You're right
George Fri 14:31

Luna, why do you trust Harry that much?
Neville Fri 14:31

but that doens't mean you are even right
Luna Fri 14:31

I don't
Fri 14:32

I'm saying we can't explicitly distrust him
Neville Fri 14:32

you don't but,,, don't you really?
Fri 14:32

I me ofc we can't.... but that doesn't mean we really can't, right?
Fri 14:33

The fact that we don't trust him doesn't really mean that we trust him
George Fri 14:33

The way I see it he is either evil or uselesss
Harry Fri 14:33

why the personal attacks?
Fri 14:33

It really starts to annoy me george
George Fri 14:33

Not personal
Fri 14:33

I mean your role
Harry Fri 14:34

I don't call you useless.
Fri 14:34

I call you out for making sketchy decisions
George Fri 14:34

Oh god, sorry for that
Fri 14:35

I mean that losing insane / paranoid is not the end of things
Neville Fri 14:35

so
Fri 14:35

Luna.. You claim harlot right?
Luna Fri 14:35

yes
Neville Fri 14:37

I believe you
Luna Fri 14:38

I don't blame oyu
Neville Fri 14:38

ok
Fri 14:38

So you don't think we should lynch Hary?
Luna Fri 14:38

I'm villagery as fuck right now
Fri 14:38

I don't think we can lynch him based on information we have
Fri 14:38

I think there's better people to vote for
Fri 14:39

Ifyou wanna vote him on gut feeling
Fri 14:39

I'll disagree
Fri 14:39

but if enough of you wanna do it
Fri 14:39

that's the will of the village
Harry Fri 14:39

I stand by my play. It's what I do, and what I think was and is right to do if you find a wolf.
Fri 14:40

I've saved so many games by not letting wolves slip.
Fri 14:40

It's a bad move to not lynch a seer hit
Neville Fri 14:40

But George has point... as rude as it sounds if you are insane you are useless
Harry Fri 14:41

I could be paranoid -_-
Moderator Fri 14:42

Lucius votes to lynch Harry
Neville Fri 14:42

The fact is based on my results you can't be true seer
Lucius Fri 14:42

Neville being real is probably the more obvious answer given last night's test.
Harry Fri 14:42

The "insane seer" thing is not just insane seer. I hope everyone is aware of the basics?
Lucius Fri 14:42

I still think Severus could be a more beneficial lynch, however.
Harry Fri 14:42

or do I have to explain the seers?
Fri 14:42

Naive, paranoid, chaotic?
Fri 14:43

insane has the opposite result. If we can verify I'm insane, I'm as good as a normal seer.
Neville Fri 14:44

oh :0
Harry Fri 14:44

Also giving me a chance to check neville would give us information what we're dealing with
Fri 14:44

with the amout of claims at the moment, I more and more see rob seers as a valid option. 4 is too much
Fri 14:44

there can't be so many "true" seers
Fri 14:45

*sure
Fri 14:45

also it's a lot for fake claimed seers
Fri 14:45

no faction is gonna claim more than 1 I think
Fri 14:45

so 4 seers is kinda insane
Fri 14:45

Ok I'll explain the basics of the seers just for everyone who isn't into speed games
Fri 14:45

Naive seer: sees everyone as village, no matter what
Fri 14:46

Paranoid seer: sees everyone as wolf
Fri 14:46

Insane seer: sees everyone as the opposite
Fri 14:46

Chaotic seer: totally random
Fri 14:47

You can actually use those seers to balance a game. It's like a handicap for village, similar to sleepwalker/lycan
Fri 14:47

When we talk about insane seers/rob seers, we kinda have to consider all those types.
Fri 14:48

I can't be naive though.
Fri 14:48

There are two ways to verify this 1) lynch me which makes me sad or 2) let me also check neville, if I get a wolf check I could be praranoid
Fri 14:49

Obviously I'd prefer 2), since 1) is sad and I have to watch from the graveyard. And this setup from Rubin seems rly rly interesting.
George Fri 14:49

The only way to verify you is to have Seer checks on you
Harry Fri 14:50

I'm open to that too
Fri 14:50

feel free to check me. But you can't seer check me when I'm dead ---
Fri 14:50

I check Neville, Slug and you and... who was the 4th? check me.
Luna Fri 14:50

Wolves could just block you again if we go for 2
Fri 14:50

Wormtail
Harry Fri 14:50

I thought we got a harlot
Fri 14:51

:)
George Fri 14:51

If you check Neville, we can't differentiate between insane and paranoid
Luna Fri 14:51

We need Wormtail's result for today still, right?
Harry Fri 14:52

I think yes
George Fri 14:52

too resource intensive imo, and you might just be evil :/
Luna Fri 14:52

look, we either need to keep having all claimed seers investigate the same person to try and work out who is who
Fri 14:52

or we need to ignore all of you and get over it
Harry Fri 14:52

But Rubin loves spuds
Fri 14:53

he has played so many robs seers
George Fri 14:54

I'd have expected Rob's Seers from Rob
Fri 14:54

xD
Luna Fri 14:54

Rob introduce the seers to us, but I don't think he's that bothered about playing with them
Harry Fri 14:55

well I wouldn't be offended if a whole concept is based around your name :)
Fri 14:55

"harry's Seers"
Fri 14:55

cool
Fri 14:58

Sere was seen as coven by Slugs, but seems everybody lost interest.
Luna Fri 14:58

Yeah I wanna talk about that coven result
Fri 14:58

but I want to hear from Wormtail first
Fri 14:58

I just want a result claim, damint
Harry Fri 14:58

I get why you wanna lynch me, but honestly there are 1) better lynch targets at the moment and b) I don't wanna get lynched early in a player round :(
Luna Fri 14:59

someone's gotta get lynched Harry
Harry Fri 14:59

3) pretty plz
Luna Fri 14:59

don't ask for sympathy
Fri 14:59

oh, you literally just asked
Fri 14:59

ha
George Fri 14:59

lmao
Harry Fri 14:59

we got a coven -_-
George Fri 15:00

Hearing that from Luna with that Avatar xD
Harry Fri 15:00

but not even the ppl. who found him seem to care
Luna Fri 15:00

I'm leaving soon
Fri 15:00

and won't be back before the end
Harry Fri 15:00

The end is nigh
Luna Fri 15:00

I feel like there's a puzzle piece that only I see
Fri 15:00

but I can't share it until we hear from Wormtail
George Fri 15:01

Wormtail usually comes on late ...
Luna Fri 15:01

shit
Fri 15:01

okay, then I'll share it anyway
Fri 15:01

but it means we can trust Wormtail's claim less
George Fri 15:01

You could well wait for another hour
Fri 15:01

How much time do you have?
Fri 15:02

@Harry I think I am salty because Trel
Luna Fri 15:02

I have an hour
Harry Fri 15:02

Lets wait an hour
Fri 15:03

@George, :( maybe we can revive her or something? :/
George Fri 15:03

good
Harry Fri 15:03

I get why you're salty, but if Slug was a wolf, how would you have reacted?
Lucius Fri 15:03

George still has votes?
Moderator Fri 15:03

Harry votes to lynch Severus
Harry Fri 15:11

I moved mine
Hermione Fri 15:17

Nev claimed GD, huh.
Luna Fri 15:17

I was expecting a stalker claim, for the record
Hermione Fri 15:18

Should we dig the same person (if so, who?) to prove both of ourselves OR should we split our digs (if so, who digs who?) to get more information?
Fri 15:18

Or let's do it blindly random and share tomorrow?
Fri 15:19

This is just a quick pop-in. I'm leaving now. Won't be back on again. I'll read the rest of today's message when it's night before I pick my dig.
Luna Fri 15:19

if you go for the same person.. Neville has to claim first tomorrow
Hermione Fri 15:19

So, leave your suggestions, I'll decide whether to follow.
Lucius Fri 15:29

I would say definitely go for the lynched target
Harry Fri 15:29

I know nobody likes beggars, but is anyone even slightly considering to balance this vote? :/
Moderator Fri 15:30

Luna votes to lynch Severus
Luna Fri 15:31

that's all I can to to make it closer
Harry Fri 15:31

Hmm, lets wait if Worm shows up
Fri 15:31

rly wanna hear your twist :/
Moderator Fri 15:38

Ron votes to lynch Severus
Ron Fri 15:38

That was a whole lot of nothing to read
Harry Fri 15:39

Thanks, I appreciate it.
Ron Fri 15:39

Anyway, we should hear from Nympho today too
Fri 15:39

I don't think she spoke yesterday, did she?
Fri 15:41

Harry, BL or Rob seer
Fri 15:41

What's your preference?
Harry Fri 15:42

Chocolate
Ron Fri 15:43

Not an answer
Fri 15:43

I'd like to have a serious conversation
Harry Fri 15:44

As I said above the amount of seer claims is kinda bonkers and we got probably more seers than factions. Which leads me to a slight bias towards Robs-seers.
Ron Fri 15:44

Okay
Fri 15:45

What made you check Tree?
Harry Fri 15:47

the comment day 1
Fri 15:47

"that's mad"
Fri 15:48

Seemed like something useless to say, It's a comment I'd make to appear active but still not too obvious for day 1.
George Fri 15:48

mad
Fri 15:48

eye
Harry Fri 15:49

HA HA
Fri 15:49

yes exactly
Ron Fri 15:49

Hmm
Fri 15:49

I still think Draco was sketchy yesterday
Fri 15:50

Anyway
Harry Fri 15:50

where is he today anyway
Luna Fri 15:50

There's too many people it's far too easy to hide/blend in
Fri 15:50

shame on you for doing that if you're anti-village, in this game
George Fri 15:50

^^
Ron Fri 15:50

Well, Nympho might be smited at this rate
Harry Fri 15:51

let's hope for the best.
Ron Fri 15:51

Greyback too actually
Harry Fri 15:51

So ron what you think actually about me?
Ron Fri 15:52

I think I don't particularly trust you, but you're still here and that makes me less worried about you
Fri 15:52

If you really are a wolf, I think you'd have shifted / alpha'd / something last night
Fri 15:52

But we don't have any evidence of that happening
Fri 15:53

So I guess if you're evil then either you just decided to go full YOLO or you have some long game planned
Fri 15:54

Maybe you're a Dire and you're hoping an Alchemist rerolls you into an SS
Harry Fri 15:54

would be a bad long game plan if I look at the votes on me -_-
Ron Fri 15:54

But I have no way of knowing
Harry Fri 15:54

"Long game plan failed day 3"
Ron Fri 15:54

So I'll go with my gut, if you're evil then you're an expendable evil and so I'll leave you alone for now
Fri 15:55

Maybe you're a puppet
Harry Fri 15:55

I don't so portal sing-alongs sry
Fri 15:55

Can HP sing?
Ron Fri 15:55

It would be nice if a WH has checked / could check you
Fri 15:56

I don't think so
Fri 15:56

What I find odd is that Snape is still here and sounds the same
Fri 15:57

It doesn't seem as though he's been switched out, so either Djinn is dead or coven had bigger fish to swap
Fri 15:57

Or maybe Snape was PM and swapped with one of his puppets
Fri 15:57

That might be possible I suppose
Fri 15:57

Or he's really GR
Fri 15:57

But... He's not right?
Harry Fri 15:58

I gtg for an hour. Getting home and stuff. cya later.
Ron Fri 15:58

Bye
Fri 15:58

I best shut up too or I might be told off for spamming the chat
Harry Fri 15:58

Still watining for Luna's twist
Ron Fri 15:59

Phrasing ;)
Harry Fri 15:59

Salty george
Luna Fri 15:59

yeah the twist is coming now I'm afraid
Fri 15:59

sorry
Fri 15:59

and Wormtail could be out there watching, waiting for me to say it
Fri 15:59

but fuck it
George Fri 16:00

*drumroll*
Luna Fri 16:02

gimme a minute
Fri 16:02

got other shit going on, sorry
Fri 16:03

ok, so mod confirmed in Discord a while back, the following... "insane seers village as wolf and non-village as village." As I see it, there's no way for an insane or paranoid cop to see a coven result. Therefore a coven result must be real OR a lie.
Fri 16:03

so Slug is either a sane seer or lying
Fri 16:04

George claims to have seen Slug as village, but we have no way to know how accurate that could be
Fri 16:04

well no
Fri 16:04

Hagrid backs up George's claim of seeing Slug as village
Fri 16:04

so we know it's a legit RESULT
Fri 16:04

but we don't know if it's accurate
Fri 16:04

because of sanity issues with George
Fri 16:04

if Slug IS sane
Fri 16:05

then maybe George can't be
Fri 16:05

so if all 4 seers tell the truth, George must be naive
Fri 16:05

this matches with his 2 village results
Fri 16:05

Harry got wolf, then blocked - he COULD be insane or paranoid
Fri 16:05

Wormtail got Village, then unknown (yet)
Fri 16:06

Wormtail can't be paranoid
Fri 16:06

Wormtail would be insane
Fri 16:06

making Harry paranoid
Fri 16:06

stay with me
Fri 16:06

that means the person Wormtail checked yesterday is actually anti-village
George Fri 16:06

Ginny
Luna Fri 16:07

that's a massive fucking chain
Fri 16:07

and it falls apart very easily
Fri 16:07

but the flow is there
George Fri 16:08

How certain are we that we are dealing with Crazy Seers?
Luna Fri 16:08

not certain at all
Fri 16:08

BUT
Fri 16:08

if people were lying
Fri 16:08

that chain could fairly easily break
Fri 16:08

they'd have to be smart or lucky with their claims
Fri 16:08

because it's complex
Fri 16:08

when I started working through this, I expected to find someone lying
Fri 16:09

this is why I wanted wormtail's result first, you see?
George Fri 16:09

This chain should support lynching Harry to find out
Luna Fri 16:09

ah shit, you're right
Fri 16:09

or lynching Severus
Fri 16:09

I'd rather keep the seers around
George Fri 16:09

But Paranoid?
Luna Fri 16:10

some of them could still be lying
Fri 16:10

we could have just a sane/insane pair
Fri 16:10

and Harry is insane
Fri 16:10

I dunno
Fri 16:10

Rob-seers in a closed setup is mean
George Fri 16:11

I think I'm going to need pen and paper for this
Ron Fri 16:11

I think we should stick to facts and evidence rather than speculating like this
Luna Fri 16:12

GDs help us prove this
Ron Fri 16:12

Rob-seers is a possibility, but until there is no other explanation I would caution against trying to factor them in
Luna Fri 16:13

what we need to do
Fri 16:13

is confirm the naive/paranoid seers
Fri 16:13

ah shit
Fri 16:13

Harry
Fri 16:13

we've gotta lynch you dude
Ron Fri 16:13

Also since they're not on the HTP (yet) I would treat them the same as demons, which definitely do not exist and never have done
Luna Fri 16:13

because if we have either paranoid OR naive seers, SURELY the others are in?
Fri 16:13

Sane seers obviously could be in the game. Insane, I could see at a stretch. But if naive/paranoid are in, surely all 4 are.
Ron Fri 16:14

I don't think it's fair to make that assumption, Luna
Fri 16:14

There's five anyway
Luna Fri 16:14

Originally there was 4
Fri 16:14

it's widely agreed that the fifth is bullshit
Ron Fri 16:14

Yes, and now there's five
Luna Fri 16:14

I would be very hesitant to use it in a small, speed game
Fri 16:14

let alone a game like this
Fri 16:15

plus, no-one else has claimed seer
Ron Fri 16:15

So, if you're assuming four are in you should assume five are in
Luna Fri 16:15

we have to go on something
Ron Fri 16:15

But I think true/insane is enough
Luna Fri 16:15

the alternative is to ignore all the seers
Fri 16:15

and I agree
Ron Fri 16:15

I don't think you need naive or paranoid
Luna Fri 16:15

but do you think we might have true/insane/paranoid and that;s it?
Ron Fri 16:15

But it's still not likely imho
Luna Fri 16:15

if we have one out of paranoid/naive, I think we have both
Fri 16:15

and therefore, we lynch who we think is one of those
Fri 16:15

dig them
Fri 16:16

if they're paranoid/naive
Fri 16:16

them we know all 4 (or 5) are in the game
Fri 16:16

and my theory could stand
Ron Fri 16:16

Seer + bloodhound + puppet is more likely in my opinion
Fri 16:16

The fourth claim could be puppet 2 or maybe a YOLO wolf or even a real second seer
Luna Fri 16:17

even if there's only 2 seers
Fri 16:17

and one is insane
Draco Fri 16:17

Im a drunktard today. Friyay but I still read on and I lost it as sane insane senile seering as well as Hagrid chain reaction to georgie porgie to sluggy. hahaha!
Luna Fri 16:17

Harry is either insane or lying
Ron Fri 16:17

Can we lynch Draco?
Moderator Fri 16:17

Draco votes to lynch Severus
Draco Fri 16:18

What is your beef with me?
Fri 16:18

What did I ever do to your ginger hair?
Luna Fri 16:18

we should lynch Harry and see what he is
Fri 16:18

I don't think it hurts us
Fri 16:18

assuming Hermione and Neville aren't both liars on the same team
Fri 16:18

I need a fucking flow chart
Ron Fri 16:19

Draco, you interrupted a serious conversation with rubbish
Fri 16:19

That's what my "beef" is
Draco Fri 16:20

Oh, well. I shall make my way out then and let you roll on. Carry on. I'll shush.
Luna Fri 16:20

wait, did my message not send
Fri 16:20

oh no, I didn't send it because I ran myself into a corner
Ron Fri 16:21

Draco, you should contribute
Fri 16:21

You could give us your opinion on Harry or Fred-now-George
Draco Fri 16:22

You're having serious discussion in which I happened to accidentally be online at that point of time and Im a true high atm. Im not even kidding. You want me to be serious then at least me sort my sobering moment and see what I can contribute.
Ron Fri 16:23

I think just reading that sentence took me over the limit
Fri 16:23

X_x
Luna Fri 16:26

I gotta go guys
Fri 16:26

Harry I'm sorry, I think lynching you makes most sense
Moderator Fri 16:26

Luna votes to lynch Harry
Ginny Fri 16:28

Okay I'm gonna speed read the day so far, but if there's a summary that would be useful
Greyback Fri 16:28

hi guys
Luna Fri 16:28

GDs - if we lynch harry, you NEED to check him
Fri 16:29

if we don't, then let someone else suggest
Fri 16:29

also - someone suggest another target for all Seers
Fri 16:29

we need to maintain our structure if we're gonna work this out
Fri 16:29

work together
Fri 16:30

ok I'm out
Fri 16:30

laters
Greyback Fri 16:31

I had a 24hours flight and just back home now, still a bit jetlag and need a sleep soon
Ron Fri 16:33

Greyback, make sure to vote
Wormtail Fri 16:47

I haven't read yet, but I wanted to post results
Fri 16:47

Nevs is village
Fri 16:48

Be back when I can read errythang
Ginny Fri 16:51

Okay so it's a lot of speculation around seers
Fri 16:51

Re: Luna's train of thought
Fri 16:51

Obviously I'm gonna claim village role
Fri 16:52

So I'm more inclined to believe Wormtail is legit, although he could be bluffing to appear more trustworthy
Fri 16:52

But I have no reason to doubt him
Ron Fri 16:52

'sup Ginny
Fri 16:52

Anything to contribute today?
Ginny Fri 16:52

Sup my fellow ginge
Fri 16:52

Nah got a big ol' zero
Fri 16:53

I don't know who to vote for either, after the disaster last night
Ron Fri 16:54

You think Harry is evils?
Fri 16:54

Aren't you banging him?
Ginny Fri 16:54

Shut UP you're banging him
Fri 16:55

He could be but it seems like a poor play if he is evil
Ron Fri 16:55

What about Snip?
Fri 16:55

Um, Snap
Fri 16:55

SNAPE
Fri 16:56

GR or coven?
Ginny Fri 16:56

I think I understand the lynch against Harry as a check, but what is the reasoning for Sovereign Snep? I have forgotten a lot, I just remember a kind of GR claim
Ron Fri 16:56

Maybe that should be GR or COVEN?
Fri 16:56

A Seer saw him as coven
Ginny Fri 16:56

Which seer?
Ron Fri 16:57

Are you sure you're the same Ginny as yesterday? You seem a lot less with it today
Fri 16:57

Maybe I'm misremembering
Fri 16:58

Anyway, I think it was Slughorn
Ginny Fri 16:58

I'm with your mom more *drops microphone*
Fri 16:58

How about you, strawbs
Ron Fri 16:58

How about me what?
Ginny Fri 16:59

Would be useful to see what the seers get for Snep then, but if he is GR then it's a sad loss
Fri 16:59

How do we know you're the REAL Ron
Fri 16:59

Huh
Ron Fri 17:00

Get me drunk and maybe we can find out
Ginny Fri 17:00

What would we find out, where would we find it
Luna Fri 17:00

ugh the chain continues
Fri 17:00

if my chain is right
Ron Fri 17:01

I thought you were going, Luna
Luna Fri 17:01

Wormtail saw Neville as village, so he's actually anti-village
Fri 17:01

meaning he's probably lying about clearing Hermione
Ron Fri 17:01

I don't think Worm is inane
Fri 17:01

Insane
Luna Fri 17:01

to what end? To get Harry lynched. Which is what I want anyway
Fri 17:01

fuck it, I have no idea
Fri 17:01

I was going. I came back because I hate myself. And my gf hates the game because it's stopping us leaving
Lucius Fri 17:01

Harry and Ginny may be the same player.
Ron Fri 17:02

Why?
Ginny Fri 17:02

I think I trust Wormtail slightly more than anyone else right now just because I have direct info linked to him (ie his check on me)
Fri 17:02

Well if I was Harry I would be spewing vitriol at you right now
Ron Fri 17:02

Would that be consensual sex or masterbation?
Ginny Fri 17:02

Also I use the word "vitriol"
Luna Fri 17:02

actually gone now
Ginny Fri 17:03

Maybe Ron should curb the perviness, won't someone please think of the children
Fri 17:03

And maybe chat spam
Ron Fri 17:15

Hey, my behaviour has no detrimental effect on anyone, especially children!
Fri 17:15

I know that for a fact because they did a scientific study all about it
Fri 17:15

I read it in the newspaper this morning, so it must be true
Fri 17:16

the press never lies to us, right?!
Neville Fri 17:17

the press is all about lies
George Fri 17:17

/Luna where are you?/
Ginny Fri 17:17

That's true but I'll give him a pass this ONE TIME
Fri 17:17

Luna needs to guide us like moonlight
Neville Fri 17:17

she is actually gone
Ginny Fri 17:17

Do people use the moon for navigation, I dunno
George Fri 17:18

I wouldn't even consider that a pun
Fri 17:19

But for seering!
Wormtail Fri 17:28

Okay, I've read
Fri 17:28

I'm half here
Fri 17:29

Ginny, if you're being guided by Luna, she's of the opinion you're antivillage
Fri 17:29

If I'm insane
Fri 17:30

I can't say if I'm lit or insane
Fri 17:30

I want to check George tonight
Fri 17:31

Can seer agree on George, pls?
Ginny Fri 17:31

It wasn't a genuine desire to be led, but at least she's putting some work into this
Wormtail Fri 17:32

she is
Ginny Fri 17:32

I think people wanted seers to check Snape because of the coven thing? But maybe another person to check would be good, I dunno
Wormtail Fri 17:32

The other option is that I check Snape
Fri 17:33

I'm okay with either
Fri 17:33

George gives off coveney vibes imo
Fri 17:34

But Sev was seen as coven by. . . we'll, only Slug as it turns out?
Fri 17:34

Sorry, on mobile
Ginny Fri 17:35

Yeah think so
Fri 17:35

Assuming he isn't lying, the seer checks on Snape would give some kind of info to work with
Fri 17:35

Assuming the others aren't lying too... Lots of assumptions
George Fri 17:38

Severus
Fri 17:39

*Where is Severus?
Fri 17:39

He should be able to tell us something about Fred
Ron Fri 17:41

I think it's unlikely Snape is GR :/
Wormtail Fri 17:42

Player game, who knows
Fri 17:42

I don't want to suppose roles
Fri 17:42

it gets me into trouble
Fri 17:42

I can check Snape, though
Fri 17:43

I hate calling him Severus
Ron Fri 17:43

You think we should lynch Harry today?
Wormtail Fri 17:43

That needs fixing
Fri 17:43

Not really, no
Fri 17:44

But it would give GDs a good target
Fri 17:45

alternatively we lynch Snape and all check Georgelet GDs confirm Snape
Ron Fri 17:45

I would rather lynch Snape, if Harry is evil it seems more likely that's he's a "disposable" evil
Fri 17:45

so either puppet or basic werewolf
Wormtail Fri 17:46

agreed
Moderator Fri 17:46

Wormtail votes to lynch Severus
Wormtail Fri 17:46

Need 2 votes
George Fri 17:46

And Severus is not? (by now)
Fri 17:46

or one vote, by the right person
Wormtail Fri 17:46

if there's puppet votes on Snape, though. . .
Moderator Fri 17:47

Ginny votes to lynch Severus
Ginny Fri 17:47

Well now it's an apparent tie
Wormtail Fri 17:47

So we lynch Snape, check George?
Ron Fri 17:47

so we either make sure the majority is > 3 or we take the risk
Fri 17:47

Wormtail, sounds like an alright plan to me
Wormtail Fri 17:47

right
Ginny Fri 17:48

Ugh I feel so uneasy over this, I wanna hear what others think too
Wormtail Fri 17:48

It'll really be garbage if he's actually GR
Fri 17:48

Me too, Ginny
Fri 17:48

My tz, my curse
Fri 17:49

I'm sure I'll catch some kind of flak for changing the plan
Fri 17:50

Harry being blocked is entirely possible, though
Fri 17:51

If it's a tie, and someone is lynched, we have a puppet pool of candidates, I guess
George Fri 17:52

the question is which lynch gives us more info
Wormtail Fri 17:52

I think Snape's lynch gives us additional Seer claim info
George Fri 17:53

not more than Lynching Harry
Wormtail Fri 17:53

Comparing to come to a conclusion is important
George Fri 17:53

I think Harry is more important
Wormtail Fri 17:53

If I'm insane, it'll be great info
George Fri 17:54

the way the votes shifted to Severus + Harry's defense compared to Severus' defense ...
Wormtail Fri 17:54

I can't say I agree
Fri 17:54

Are you worried about being checked, George?
Fri 17:55

GR is a good defense?
George Fri 17:55

Why?
Fri 17:55

What makes you think so?
Wormtail Fri 17:55

Why. . . what?
Lucius Fri 17:55

I like this plan. Since George can't check himself, he may as well check Harry? And if George does come out positive, we also gain Harry's alignment.
Moderator Fri 17:55

Lucius votes to lynch Severus
George Fri 17:56

what plan?
Wormtail Fri 17:56

I'm asking if you think GR is a good defense
Fri 17:56

The plan to lynch Snape, check you
Lucius Fri 17:58

If only we'd just lynched him yesterday in the first place.
George Fri 17:58

Why me?
Fri 17:58

No, GR is just a claim
Fri 17:58

not really a defense
Fri 17:58

It says alot that he didn't rob tonight
Wormtail Fri 18:00

Swap claim + misleading village
Fri 18:00

Coven tactics
George Fri 18:00

Why would I invent a swap claim?
Fri 18:00

completely unnecessary
Fri 18:01

A single messiah would disprove me
Wormtail Fri 18:04

We'll, checking you will lend you credibility, then
George Fri 18:04

Yes
Fri 18:04

Wormtail, quick question: do you think that Harry is lit?
Wormtail Fri 18:05

I don't know
Fri 18:05

But he could be a seer in this game
George Fri 18:05

tendency?
Wormtail Fri 18:06

With this many people, tooany people can "verify" each other
Fri 18:06

I'm leaning toward him being seer
George Fri 18:07

Huh?
Wormtail Fri 18:07

Rube is probably having such a good time watching this already
Fri 18:07

Huh what?
George Fri 18:08

After what happened yesterday?
Wormtail Fri 18:08

The Hermione Neville confirmation, I can confirm so and so
Fri 18:08

too easy with 3+ factions and 20+ people
Fri 18:09

With Trel?
George Fri 18:09

Yes
Wormtail Fri 18:09

Still not 100% convinced
Fri 18:10

With no counters, it's highly likely that they are GD, but too many unknowns
George Fri 18:10

That would mean that there is no other GD alive
Fri 18:10

-other
Wormtail Fri 18:11

I'm accounting for that
George Fri 18:11

And that Neville is a direwolf
Wormtail Fri 18:11

I'm leaning, slightly
Fri 18:11

And both could be baddies
George Fri 18:11

Or just Harry is bad
Wormtail Fri 18:12

Neville's reluctance to claim paired with a block claim gives it some credence
George Fri 18:13

But not that much imo
Wormtail Fri 18:13

We should have enough Intel roles to crack this Harry thing open
George Fri 18:13

I think that if we don't lynch Harry, we need to check him
Wormtail Fri 18:14

Seers should check you, tonight
Fri 18:14

Other intel can handle harry tonight
Fri 18:15

If nothing else, he shouldn't be able to act with confidence if he knows he's being targeted
Fri 18:15

A lot of attention on Harry, not enough on Snape gives me reason to suspect it's on purpose
Fri 18:16

Plenty of misdirection
George Fri 18:16

I think the misdirection is happening right now
Wormtail Fri 18:16

You being so reluctant, and seeming to not want to be checked is pretty big, too
Fri 18:16

Good one
George Fri 18:16

no!
Fri 18:17

You'll find out that I am village and we wasted a night
Fri 18:17

's check
Wormtail Fri 18:17

No, we put some fears to rest, and you're then confirmed village
Fri 18:17

Confirming village is not a waste
Fri 18:17

Then you have credibility
Fri 18:17

Whatever you do from here on out is trusted
George Fri 18:17

Wormtail. you are putting it worse than it actually is
Wormtail Fri 18:18

Not sure i follow
George Fri 18:18

You are legit trusting Harry as Seer here, although it is extremely unlikely
Wormtail Fri 18:18

No, I'm not
Fri 18:18

I'm leaning closer to him than snape
Fri 18:18

That's all
Fri 18:19

If I had to choose one, I'd choose Harry atm as the more lit
George Fri 18:19

But you don't want to check him ?
Wormtail Fri 18:19

I want to check oyu first
George Fri 18:19

Why?
Wormtail Fri 18:19

Like i said, there is plenty of intel to go around
Fri 18:19

I already said why
Fri 18:19

And you fighting so hard about it is making me want it even more
George Fri 18:20

You are too locked on me
Wormtail Fri 18:20

If you're village, then you should be okay with being confirmed, not call it a wate imo
George Fri 18:20

I have no doubts that I am village
Wormtail Fri 18:20

And most of the village was too locked on Trel, and then Harry
George Fri 18:20

But I have doubts that you and Harry are
Wormtail Fri 18:20

I'm one damn person
George Fri 18:20

And this is looking like a team
Wormtail Fri 18:20

well, if he's village, we ARE a team
Fri 18:21

And oyu should be on the village team, too
Fri 18:21

and say, "Sure, check me, then I can work without roadblocks"
Fri 18:21

Who doesn't want to be confirmed except evil?
George Fri 18:21

Wormtail
Wormtail Fri 18:21

Uh oh
George Fri 18:22

There is something called opputunity cost
Wormtail Fri 18:22

What's the cost?
George Fri 18:22

By checking me, we are losing the chance to check an evil
Wormtail Fri 18:22

Do you think there are o intel roles looking to target Harry tonight?
Fri 18:22

no*
Fri 18:22

George
Fri 18:22

This is crazy
George Fri 18:22

No
Wormtail Fri 18:22

20 people left in this game
George Fri 18:23

Ah fuck it
Fri 18:23

Check me and get over with it
Wormtail Fri 18:23

Will do
George Fri 18:23

same @Slughorn
Wormtail Fri 18:24

Question about Seers that may have come up already, but I missed the answer
Fri 18:24

If GD digd an insane seer or whatever, do they only get "Seer" as the role, or do they get the insane part, too?
Fri 18:24

digs*
Ron Fri 18:24

I think they get the exact role
George Fri 18:24

insane too
Wormtail Fri 18:24

Nice, that's good
George Fri 18:24

Only the Seer himself doesn't know
Ron Fri 18:25

like, if they dig a sleepwalker they don't get villager, they get sleepwalker
Wormtail Fri 18:25

Gotcha, thanks
Fri 18:25

Yeah, I just didn't know if Rob Seers worked that way
Fri 18:25

I'm really wondering if I'm insane at this point
Fri 18:26

But Nev was village by everyone, right?
Ron Fri 18:26

yes
Wormtail Fri 18:26

Hmm
George Fri 18:26

everyone being not Harry
Wormtail Fri 18:26

Right, RB claim
Ron Fri 18:26

who got roleblocked
Fri 18:26

yes
Wormtail Fri 18:27

Good lord, Rubin
George Fri 18:27

For Luna:
Fri 18:27

Ron, who do you think should the Seers check?
Ron Fri 18:28

who are the seers: Slughorn, Wormtail, Harry and Fred-now-George?
George Fri 18:28

Just George is enough
Fri 18:28

Yes
Ron Fri 18:29

So, the other three of you could check George and George could check Harry
Wormtail Fri 18:29

Yes
Ron Fri 18:29

or all four of you could check Lily
Fri 18:29

those would be my suggestions
George Fri 18:29

Luna wanted the Seers not to decide
Wormtail Fri 18:29

Nah, I like checking George
Ron Fri 18:29

I think it works
Wormtail Fri 18:29

Oh, yeah okay
George Fri 18:29

That's the whole point
Moderator Fri 18:29

Dumbledore votes to lynch Severus
George Fri 18:30

wtf?
Wormtail Fri 18:30

There's that magical 9 again. . .
Fri 18:30

I don't like that
Lucius Fri 18:31

Remember the puppets may be on him in attempt to save him, now they can't.
Wormtail Fri 18:31

Dumbledore, why did you move your vote?
Lucius Fri 18:31

It's definitely 5-7.
Wormtail Fri 18:32

Yeah
Dumbledore Fri 18:32

Why not?
Wormtail Fri 18:32

I just don't like the 9 vote
Lucius Fri 18:32

Oh, unless pups on Harry, but that's irrelevant
Wormtail Fri 18:32

Just curious
George Fri 18:32

LoL
Fri 18:32

Dumbledore, you had good reasons why not
Dumbledore Fri 18:32

I don't think Harry is lit, but if you seers has a plan to check others out
Fri 18:32

then I think we could give him another night
Lucius Fri 18:33

Harry could be Puppet, whilst Severus was seen as Coven.
George Fri 18:33

????
Dumbledore Fri 18:33

never like GR anyway
George Fri 18:33

But look at Harrys defense
Fri 18:33

and at sevs defense
Fri 18:33

who is trying to survive?
Wormtail Fri 18:33

What is Sev's defense?
George Fri 18:33

Good point
Fri 18:33

not existant
Dumbledore Fri 18:33

Busy day and I'm too tired and can't look at shit
Fri 18:34

Just read the plan of seers checking each other
Wormtail Fri 18:34

He didn't really require a defense while he was here because the focus kept ketting swung back on Harry
George Fri 18:34

He was barely here ...
Wormtail Fri 18:34

Maybe, or lurking for a while but need to speak
Fri 18:35

or puppet whose master was otherwise occupied
George Fri 18:35

Compare that to Harry
Wormtail Fri 18:35

didn't*
Fri 18:35

Oh my god, what if harry and snape are same person
Fri 18:35

disposable puppets
Fri 18:35

hahahaha
George Fri 18:35

Doesn't change anything
Wormtail Fri 18:35

Just a funny thought
Fri 18:36

I thin kthe plan we have works right now, George
Fri 18:36

and Harry will get attention, so don't worry aboutthat
Fri 18:36

We're not clearing him by checking you
Fri 18:36

We're clearing you, then moving on to him
George Fri 18:36

Dumbledore Fri 18:32 I don't think Harry is lit, but if you seers has a plan to check others out Fri 18:32 then I think we could give him another night
Fri 18:37

That's wrong priorities, because he is more likely not lit, but then you say I am fighting the check again WHICH I AM NOT
Wormtail Fri 18:37

Then you can probably justt relax
George Fri 18:38

Also, can the non-Seers voice their opinion?
Wormtail Fri 18:38

I am so sorry about my typing
Fri 18:38

If they're here
Fri 18:38

I would like to see who outright opposing the plan, too
George Fri 18:38

That line makes me want to check DD x.x
Wormtail Fri 18:38

It could help in the future
George Fri 18:39

We should also write down the votecount b4 nightfall
Fri 18:39

I think it's going to be reeeeeally important
Wormtail Fri 18:40

Severus - Lily, Slug, harry, Ron, Draco, Wormtail, Ginny, Lucius, DD
Fri 18:40

George - Madeye, Severus
Fri 18:40

Harry - Hermione, Neville, Hagrid, George, Luna
Fri 18:42

Who hasn't claimed yet?
Fri 18:42

Or maybe a list of who has is easier
George Fri 18:42

Severus - GR
Fri 18:42

George - Seer
Fri 18:42

Luna - Harlot
Fri 18:42

Slug - Seer
Fri 18:43

Hermione - GD
Fri 18:43

Wormtail - Seer
Fri 18:43

Hagrid - Beholder
Fri 18:43

Neville - GD
Fri 18:43

Harry - Seer
Fri 18:44

Btw
Fri 18:44

Can a second person check Harry too?
Fri 18:45

For more Rob's Seer info
Wormtail Fri 18:45

Hmm
Fri 18:45

That kind of messes up the reliability of the check, doesn't it?
Fri 18:45

The more people check one person, the better?
George Fri 18:45

Not your call, Wormtail
Wormtail Fri 18:46

No matter what, we'll have 3-1
Fri 18:46

or 2-2
Fri 18:46

Fishy
Fri 18:46

True
Fri 18:46

Just voicing my opinion
Fri 18:47

You have a track record of trying to silence people, yeah?
Fri 18:47

Didn't you say Harry talked too much, earlier?
George Fri 18:47

I get info whether I am naive
Fri 18:48

He kept repeating the same thing
Wormtail Fri 18:48

So do you
George Fri 18:48

And you
Wormtail Fri 18:48

Exactly
Fri 18:48

We're all making a case for what we think is right
George Fri 18:49

I want non-seers here
Wormtail Fri 18:49

Well, do some witchcraft and make them show up
Fri 18:50

There are 2 seers who, as far as I can tell, have not seen this development
Fri 18:50

if they choose to read up before taking action, they *might* follow the newly laid out plan
Fri 18:51

I'm checking George
Fri 18:51

That's all I can control
Fri 18:51

Maybe Harry will, too, and Slug and you will check Harry
Fri 18:52

My credibility goes down, because I'm paired with Harry, who is obviously sus
Fri 18:53

The only truly valid way is for 3 to check 1
George Fri 18:54

I think you are sus, therefore I think you shouldn't make the plans
Wormtail Fri 18:54

Nobody else is here
Fri 18:54

So it's either your plan or mine
George Fri 18:54

Then wait until someone comes around
Wormtail Fri 18:55

Ron agreed that the plan works
George Fri 18:55

No, I am not trying to impose a plan
Wormtail Fri 18:55

As did DD, Lucius, and Ginny
George Fri 18:55

Only you are
Moderator Fri 18:55

Greyback votes to lynch Ollivander
Ron Fri 18:55

Snape shouldn't be a puppet
George Fri 18:55

Phew
Wormtail Fri 18:55

Who are you waiting for, George?
Ron Fri 18:55

Slug would have seen puppet not coven
George Fri 18:55

Ron!
Wormtail Fri 18:55

Ollivander
Fri 18:55

Okay, that's good
Ron Fri 18:56

BRB!
Wormtail Fri 18:56

He *could* be PM, and Harry puppet, though, right?
George Fri 18:56

Could you please take care of your rat?
Wormtail Fri 18:56

Not liely, but funny and intriguing
Fri 18:56

likely
Fri 18:57

Why is Grayback always so lurky in every HP game I play?
George Fri 18:57

You care about whether something is likely? Yet you believe that Harry is seer?
Wormtail Fri 18:57

Either you're going to start paying attention, or I'm goin gto start ignoring you
George Fri 18:57

Role play
Wormtail Fri 18:58

How many times can I say that I don't *believe* Harry is seer
George Fri 18:58

oh right
Wormtail Fri 18:58

I think, given the evidence we have, it's slightly more likely than Snape being GR
George Fri 18:58

gotcha
Wormtail Fri 18:59

I am not a leader, and if anyone chooses to do as i say, they are certainly taking a risk
Fri 18:59

I think that's fact by now
George Fri 18:59

But the outcome of lynching Harry if he is evil is imo more than slightly better than lynching Sev if he is evil
Wormtail Fri 18:59

I am doing a thing
Fri 19:00

That's where we disagree, I think
Fri 19:00

I have to go, which is terrible timing, and won't be back before night
Fri 19:01

I think I've said all i can about my position
Fri 19:01

It's up to the rest of you to decide what you want to do and why
George Fri 19:02

As much as we disagree, good night
Fri 19:11

Ron?
Neville Fri 19:12

Vodka?
George Fri 19:15

yes
Fri 19:19

pls tell the Seers who to check
Ollivander Fri 19:23

Hello again!
Fri 19:24

It took a while to read through all of today and I had to skip some of it.
Moderator Fri 19:24

Ollivander votes to lynch Severus
George Fri 19:26

Can someone make an independent plan pls?
Ollivander Fri 19:26

I see Snape has not spoken a word all day. He had the perfect opportunity to do so today.
George Fri 19:26

He spoke a bit
Fri 19:27

Severus Fri 12:05 With Herms givin me clues about the GY N can steal Proto tonight and proof myself. I'm still not coven and will never be. I still think Slugs is lying through his teeth. But Hagrid already has evidence about George.
Fri 19:27

I think he might be swapped
Ollivander Fri 19:28

I must have skipped that bit.
Fri 19:29

But I agree, it would have been the perfect time to if you are telling the truth about your swap.
Moderator Fri 19:30

Lucius votes to lynch Harry
Ollivander Fri 19:30

He was lucky with Trelawney being lynched.
Lucius Fri 19:30

I didn't even think of that..
George Fri 19:31

Lucius, what's The plan for tonight
Lucius Fri 19:32

I still want someone to check you for that sneaky village lie
George Fri 19:33

ok
Lucius Fri 19:33

I also hope someone checks Dobby at some point.
George Fri 19:34

(is this role play?
Lucius Fri 19:34

He was my random pick for the test yesterday (before it somehow changed to Nev) and he was very pro-insane seers which sounded like defense prep.
Fri 19:34

Haha, nope
George Fri 19:34

ok
Fri 19:35

How should we deal with Harry?
Lucius Fri 19:35

I'd like to see his result, if he isn't lynched
Moderator Fri 19:35

Nymphadora votes to lynch Dobby
George Fri 19:35

Hi Mum
Fri 19:36

Nym lol
Fri 19:36

My phone thinks it's smart
Fri 19:37

@Lucius just say who should do what
Lucius Fri 19:39

I really want the GD's beheld or stalked, as I had a theory the setup could be pure witchcraft users (although that was before we heard from Luna, who feels quite lit)
George Fri 19:41

There is a really good reason to not lynch snape: WH
Fri 19:41

2 l8 now
Lucius Fri 19:41

I think it works if Slug and Thingy check you, and you check anyone you like, since if you're lit then you and your info is confirmed
George Fri 19:42

But crazy seers :/
Lucius Fri 19:42

WH can keep checking instead, it's fine.
Fri 19:43

Personally I'm still not buying crazy Seer theory... But I guess we'll see?
George Fri 19:43

ba dumm tss
Lucius Fri 19:43

I forgot Harry is likely surviving this! Perhaps you, he and Luna meet on Dobby?
Fri 19:44

Oh wait. Luna to Harry! He can't claim RBed then.
Fri 19:45

Then have him say the result before you?
Fri 19:45

(If Harry *is* RBed, we find DW)
George Fri 19:47

And Gds check
Lucius Fri 19:47

Yeah, with Neville giving the result before Hermione. His coming out was not smooth stuff.
George Fri 19:47

Severus?
Fri 19:48

Beholder on Neville is enough
Wormtail Fri 19:48

I am in a waiting room, so I may leave without warning
George Fri 19:49

Oh wait Beholder came out
Wormtail Fri 19:49

Beholder on Neville, Luna and George on Harry?
Fri 19:50

Hagrid, right?
Fri 19:50

Hmm
George Fri 19:50

yes
Fri 19:50

Harlot on Harry
Lucius Fri 19:50

Slug on George and, was it you, the other Seer?
Wormtail Fri 19:50

Yes
George Fri 19:50

Harry and I on Robby
Wormtail Fri 19:50

Thingy. . .
George Fri 19:51

That's how lucius said it I think
Wormtail Fri 19:51

What?
George Fri 19:51

Dobby
Wormtail Fri 19:51

Ugh, I still think 3 on 1 is a better verification method, but if village want 2-2, okay
George Fri 19:51

Worm and slug on me
Wormtail Fri 19:52

yes
George Fri 19:52

Good night! (And good luck wormtail? Waiting rooms are scary)
Wormtail Fri 19:53

Thanks, just dentist XD G'night!
Lucius Fri 19:53

Worm was the last to come out, but it didn't seem neccessary thus I doubt an evil would have bothered. I feel inclined to believe although confirmation would still be nice. If he chose between George and Dobby, it could serve as a test for Luna too..
George Fri 19:54

"just dentist" wow
Wormtail Fri 19:54

And if we have crazy seers, I could well be naive
Lucius Fri 19:55

I'll try and warm up to the idea
Wormtail Fri 19:55

haha, George
Fri 19:56

I know, it's one of those things that make the game harder
Fri 19:56

Knowing who the host is XD
Lucius Fri 19:56

It's that Coven result yesterday which is throwing me off it.
Wormtail Fri 19:57

Otherwise, Harry is on the block for sure
Fri 19:57

Yeah, would crazy see coven specific
Fri 19:57

this has been discussed, but I don't remember
Lucius Fri 19:58

I rarely read the Discord
Fri 19:58

If you see any confirmation, let us know, since what some know - all ought to know
Wormtail Fri 19:59

Someone will answer, I'm sure
Fri 19:59

it's important to the game
Lynched Fri 20:00

Severus was lynched by the village
Killed Sat 08:00

Ron was killed during the night

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