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Moderator Wed 08:01

Mahou votes to lynch Peroni
Mahou Wed 08:01

Like WTF DUDE!
Wed 08:01

Thank god the others balance!
Beck Wed 08:01

Singha visited Guiness.
Budweiser Wed 08:01

explaination pls, Mahou?
Wed 08:01

Hello Beck
Mahou Wed 08:02

If I was there, I would have lynched that Peroni fucker!
Wed 08:02

Read his last statement from yesterday
Budweiser Wed 08:02

About yesterday, whoever the Miller is, he's so rude
Mahou Wed 08:03

I am furious now
Budweiser Wed 08:03

I hope he can work out with his manner
Mahou Wed 08:03

The thing is, I actually believed that fool!
Wed 08:03

So now, Guinness, I owe you an apology!
Carlton Wed 08:03

G'day brewskis, sure was goin off at the end there
Budweiser Wed 08:03

Calling everyone fool or idiot isnt a smart play
Wed 08:04

@mahou: Was it all about Peroni's balance
Wed 08:04

or you have more info about him?
Mahou Wed 08:04

Beck's, so you are confirming Singha?
Budweiser Wed 08:05

He's confirming Singha's visit
Wed 08:05

only the visit
Wed 08:05

anyone need a TL;DR?
Mahou Wed 08:05

Unfortunately, no, I have no info what so ever!... I tried to bait for the wolves to go against me or a seer check... but that didn't happen since I am still alive
Wed 08:05

Just a vanilla here
Budweiser Wed 08:06

you mean vanilla vanilla?
Mahou Wed 08:06

Nope, I am all caught up
Budweiser Wed 08:06

I will add it in the note
Mahou Wed 08:06

Vanilla with vanilla topping
Budweiser Wed 08:06

Sounds sweet
Mahou Wed 08:07

Now, untill intel comes up, I am so up for lynching Peroni for his last minute action!
Wed 08:07

Even if he is a village
Budweiser Wed 08:07

After reading back yesterday, I agreed with lynching Guinness if I was there yesterday because: 1. He was the 2nd claim seer. 2. He claimed after seer claimed to see him wolf.
Wed 08:07

I dont see any issue in their reactions
Peroni Wed 08:07

Haha turns out I'm a sleepwalker, I saw Budweiser visiting me last night
Wed 08:08

How's it going guys?
Budweiser Wed 08:08

But I dont like last minute action too
Wed 08:08

what?
Mahou Wed 08:08

Sleepwalker my ass!
Budweiser Wed 08:08

I'm vanilla
Mahou Wed 08:08

Sleepwalker is the one that visits...
Wed 08:08

Insomniac sees visits
Wed 08:08

On self
Carlton Wed 08:08

So who's claimed what so far mate?
Peroni Wed 08:08

Wait what's the one that sees
Mahou Wed 08:08

So you are doing more bullshit at the moment!
Peroni Wed 08:08

no
Wed 08:08

seriously
Mahou Wed 08:08

Just please lynch the fucker
Budweiser Wed 08:08

Did I misread, or Peroni was the one who claimed seer yesterday?
Peroni Wed 08:09

I did
Budweiser Wed 08:09

how come you turned into insomina?
Mahou Wed 08:09

He said it last minute yesterday...
Carlton Wed 08:09

Peroni you drongo, you're headin for a lynchin mate
Mahou Wed 08:09

That he was only trolling
Moderator Wed 08:09

Carlton votes to lynch Peroni
Peroni Wed 08:09

Well if no one visited me night 1 then I wouldn't see anything right?
Budweiser Wed 08:10

i really missed that part
Mahou Wed 08:10

Yes, that is right, but I am not believing anything you say anymore
Budweiser Wed 08:10

how the hell a vanilla troll like this?
Carlton Wed 08:10

Bud, did you go walkies?
Budweiser Wed 08:10

I dont know
Wed 08:10

I'm a vanilla
Peroni Wed 08:10

it's fair not to believe me anymore, just know that everything I said at the end of the day was true
Budweiser Wed 08:10

If the fake seer is lit inso, then I am
Mahou Wed 08:11

You COULD be a sleepwalker, but I just doubt it...
Wed 08:11

Peroni is here to troll I guess
Budweiser Wed 08:11

stalker can stalk me?
Wed 08:11

If he troll again, lynch him
Carlton Wed 08:11

'walkers and wakers would explain the funky numbers...
Mahou Wed 08:11

I say lynch him anyways and stalker follows you
Budweiser Wed 08:11

exciting, I've never been a sw before
Wed 08:12

should we?
Peroni Wed 08:12

I'm not allowed to copy/paste mod messages right?
Budweiser Wed 08:12

let's see if we have any lead
Wed 08:12

yeb
Mahou Wed 08:12

BUT if you are both wolf buddies, this could all be a big act... to get a stalker to follow you and clear you
Budweiser Wed 08:12

you are not allowed to
Peroni Wed 08:12

ok
Wed 08:12

yes bud you visited me
Budweiser Wed 08:12

I kinda guess guiness will check Peroni
Wed 08:13

if he was lit, then I am lit too.
Wed 08:13

unless I am BL or BH
Wed 08:13

It's good to hear that I'm not an useless vanilla
Mahou Wed 08:14

He is probably making some more bs claims
Carlton Wed 08:14

no vanilla is useless, you all serve a point
Budweiser Wed 08:14

that's what I'm afraid of
Peroni Wed 08:15

meaning carlton isn't vanilla
Carlton Wed 08:15

it does seem to require a waste of resources to prove one way or another
Wed 08:16

sunnies blocking your vision Peroni? I said that y'day mate
Peroni Wed 08:17

I'll wait for guiness (hopefully he checked me otherwise I'm probably screwed) I'll get back on later folks
Beck Wed 08:19

peroni if you are insomiac you would know if he checked you
Budweiser Wed 08:20

Beck is so smart
Wed 08:20

^^
Carlton Wed 08:24

Beck you beauty! at least someone's on the ball
Peroni Wed 08:26

dang it, you're right only bud paid a visit which means no one can vet what I say
Wed 08:26

In either case I need to get off cause I'm on American time and I need some sleep
Chang Wed 08:27

Did anyone ask why the seer checked Guinness yesterday? I missed it if they did?
Moderator Wed 08:27

Chang votes to lynch Guiness
Budweiser Wed 08:30

I remember seer was asked to check one of the stalker
Wed 08:30

and the "seer" checked guinness yesterday admitted his-self trolled
Wed 08:30

he lied, Chang
Wed 08:31

so far Guiness is the only seer claim
Chang Wed 08:36

Oh, hjm
Wed 08:37

Interesting
Harbin Wed 08:37

Peroni, you still there?
Chang Wed 08:38

I was getting bad feelings from Guinness whilst reading the early parts of the day, so I wasn't totally surpised when I read the "seer" check
Harbin Wed 08:39

I want to ask, if you meant to confess, why didnt you a little earlier, even 10 mins earlier? You did it literally last minute. You didn’t care that you might be killing a seer?
Chang Wed 08:39

"bad feelings" => it seemed like Guinness was constantly directing the conversion rather than letting it flow between people naturally
Wed 08:39

So hmm
Harbin Wed 08:39

(Sorry for interweaving between your dialogues Chang, will stay out now)
Chang Wed 08:40

I might leave my vote where it is for now, but clearly I need to finish reading the end of the day
Harbin Wed 08:42

Btw Chang, I asked Peroni why he chose Guiness
Wed 08:42

He said: It is the only beer he recognized?
Chang Wed 08:43

Hmm, okay
Wed 08:45

Well my question is a bit irrelevant if he reneged his claim
Moderator Wed 08:57

Mythos votes to lynch Peroni
Mythos Wed 08:58

Reading back
Moderator Wed 09:04

Budweiser votes to lynch Miller
Budweiser Wed 09:04

asv because of his manner 1st
Mahou Wed 09:10

Anyways. This is a total waste of time. Peroni if you really are a village member, I swear that was the most toxic behaviour I've ever seen
Wed 09:11

If I were a mod I'd smite for such a behaviour...
Wed 09:12

But, since there was no smite on you, I'd say it's possible that you are pulling of a play... in which case you are a wolf mate
Wed 09:12

And in that case it was a good play
Wed 09:13

Until further intel comes up, for me you are a prime lynch target
Harbin Wed 09:16

Mod-Smites are for intentional toxicity. He thought he was helping the village with his stunt. The only thing that bothers me is that he left it to the last minute.
Mahou Wed 09:20

Yes, that is what bothers me
Guiness Wed 09:20

sup yall! Peroni, idk where to begin with you. -_-
Mahou Wed 09:20

He left almost no time for a balance m...
Wed 09:21

Good thing that some people were there
Wed 09:21

Guinness, begin woth your check
Wed 09:21

Pleade
Wed 09:21

Please *
Guiness Wed 09:21

i checked Erbinger as village.
Budweiser Wed 09:21

noted
Wed 09:22

any special reason for your check?
Mahou Wed 09:22

Why did he not say it after he outed a seer?
Wed 09:22

That it was all a lie
Wed 09:22

Singha should be able to confirm your visit
Wed 09:23

And if he does, then we have 3 persons confirmed
Wed 09:23

No, 4
Budweiser Wed 09:23

I'm a little bit suprised about guiness's check
Mahou Wed 09:23

Guinness, Singha, Beck's and Erdinger
Budweiser Wed 09:23

may I know why?
Mahou Wed 09:23

But Erdinger could still be DW
Budweiser Wed 09:23

Bintang villager -> his N1 check
Wed 09:23

Mahou you missed that part
Guiness Wed 09:24

well, i thought Erdinger was quite lurky
Mahou Wed 09:24

That is true
Budweiser Wed 09:24

I was nearly sure that you would check the fake seer after what happened last night
Wed 09:25

so the fake seer could be a real inso, since he didnt claim to see seer visited, and seer really didnt visited
Wed 09:25

no one claim rb'ed
Wed 09:25

at least until now
Guiness Wed 09:25

what was bud?
Wed 09:26

he visited peroni right?
Budweiser Wed 09:26

yes
Wed 09:26

I'm vanilla. Peroni said he saw I visited him
Guiness Wed 09:27

ok?
Harbin Wed 09:29

Hey Guiness. Pick a number between 1 or 2 or 3
Wed 09:29

Dont ask why
Budweiser Wed 09:30

(I wanna join a game too, excited ^^)
Harbin Wed 09:31

Bud, choose between Orange, or Red, or Pink
Budweiser Wed 09:31

Pink
Harbin Wed 09:31

I just need my number now
Guiness Wed 09:31

ill pick 3 then.
Budweiser Wed 09:31

Pink 3
Wed 09:31

<3
Harbin Wed 09:31

Pink 3. Thanks guys! Wish me luck
Budweiser Wed 09:31

what'ya doing?
Harbin Wed 09:32

Game with friends
Budweiser Wed 09:32

I thought you were doing homework or a test
Wed 09:32

lol
Guiness Wed 09:32

i wish i had friends. lol
Budweiser Wed 09:32

oh..... you have, guiness
Wed 09:33

we are all your friends
Wed 09:33

only 5 enemies, the rest is ur friends
Harbin Wed 09:33

^
Guiness Wed 09:33

lol
Budweiser Wed 09:33

or only 4 other friends, the rest is your enemies
Wed 09:33

^^
Harbin Wed 09:33

Best part, those enemies will turn to friends after game-end!
Wed 09:34

Bad news, 5 of your friends will turn to murdering enemies :(
Budweiser Wed 09:34

Best part, after game-end everyone is friend, except mod ^^
Guiness Wed 09:34

mod not included.
Harbin Wed 09:34

Mod is not a friend!
Wed 09:34

He is our father!
Guiness Wed 09:35

but he wants to be your friend
Harbin Wed 09:35

Pink 3 was a success btw
Wed 09:35

Catch ya guys later
Guiness Wed 09:35

so were waiting for the stalker check from singha, to confirm me?
Budweiser Wed 09:36

yeahhh
Wed 09:36

yeb
Wed 09:36

you could still be BH or BL, but since no CC so far
Wed 09:36

you know
Guiness Wed 09:36

ryt you are
Wed 09:40

i may or may not be back in time. wifi is throwing tantrums. -_-
Budweiser Wed 09:40

what is ryt?
Guiness Wed 09:41

right
Tuborg Wed 09:41

I wouldnt call Peroni toxic, that's a different thing. But it might not be good play. Still, not so interested in a lynch out of anger, to set an example or sth... So will not vote there. Let's move on and actually focus on hunting wolfies! :)
Moderator Wed 09:42

Guiness votes to lynch Chang
Guiness Wed 09:43

returning the flavour
Tuborg Wed 09:43

Peroni is hard to kill for wolves if there's a chance of revive. So I like to keep them around, Insom is a useful addition, and quite a good role to verify/to be verified by others.
Mahou Wed 09:44

That is if he is one
Wed 09:44

But I don't trust him
Tuborg Wed 09:45

I'm on phone, so can't check back. I don't have any memory of Sol. I think a fresh vote to stir things up seems nice.
Moderator Wed 09:45

Tuborg votes to lynch Sol
Tuborg Wed 09:46

The current claims don't conflict for now and I'm not too keen on lynching m, hence my suggestion to try somewhere else for new input.
Carlton Wed 09:49

Turning the heat up on ol' Sol eh? Right you are mate
Moderator Wed 09:49

Carlton votes to lynch Sol
Moderator Wed 09:51

Harbin votes to lynch Sol
Harbin Wed 09:52

Just to catch his attention. Ill be available to remove my vote
Carlton Wed 09:52

Same here Harbin
Budweiser Wed 09:53

want me to join?
Harbin Wed 09:53

I don’t necessarily feel right to lynch Perino. But if there is any way we can put him on probation that would be great
LabattBlue Wed 09:53

Good morning
Budweiser Wed 09:53

seer chose to check him or not I think
Wed 09:54

and he must tell who visited him everyday early in the morning
Wed 09:54

he's an early person
LabattBlue Wed 09:54

How guiness is still alove? Wasn’t he check by seer as a wolf?
Budweiser Wed 09:54

hello blue
Wed 09:54

Not only me missed the part
Tuborg Wed 09:54

Blue, read up last parts of last night.
Budweiser Wed 09:54

No, blue
LabattBlue Wed 09:54

Ah please i have headache
Budweiser Wed 09:54

Perini claimed that he trolled. He wasnt a seer.
Wed 09:55

He was just trolling
LabattBlue Wed 09:55

Can you tell me what happened today?
Wed 09:55

:/ really?
Wed 09:55

Hmmm
Tuborg Wed 09:55

Today? Not so much, read up yourself..
Budweiser Wed 09:55

Perini claimed vanilla yesterday, and said he saw me visited him last night, which make him inso and I sw
Guiness Wed 09:55

24 hour games for exts right. thats why they call it extensions? coz its long?
Tuborg Wed 09:55

Trolling doesn't seem the right word.
LabattBlue Wed 09:55

Budwiser did you claim?
Budweiser Wed 09:55

Vanilla
LabattBlue Wed 09:56

So you are sleepwalker?
Budweiser Wed 09:56

I claim after Peri said his record
Wed 09:56

I dunno
Wed 09:56

I'm just vanilla
LabattBlue Wed 09:56

And the other vanilla claim is insomniac
Tuborg Wed 09:56

At least I feel there was no malintent in Peroni, hence not a troll. Just a new player who likes to try some unusual things.
LabattBlue Wed 09:56

If you are vanilla then yea! You are sleep walker
Budweiser Wed 09:56

vanillas dont know themselves inso or sw or lycan
Wed 09:56

that's only if Peri is lit
LabattBlue Wed 09:57

They can know if someone see you visit them
Wed 09:57

...
Tuborg Wed 09:57

Of course, and it's not that I say that I trust them, it's that I think we have the means to verify them.
Budweiser Wed 09:57

The only seer left - guiness - checked Bin N1, and Erdinger n2
Wed 09:58

yes I agree. Verifying things is good
LabattBlue Wed 09:58

Guiness claimed seer?
Wed 09:59

weird?
Budweiser Wed 09:59

what is weird
Wed 09:59

?
Tuborg Wed 09:59

Blue, please read up before trying to participate in this conversation. ^^
LabattBlue Wed 09:59

No maybe he didn’t claim yesterday cuz he thought that fake seer claim is wolf to out the real one?
Tuborg Wed 09:59

You should be aware of basic important facts, IMO.
LabattBlue Wed 10:00

The odd thing is ppl wanted to lynch him but he didn’t claim yesterday right?
Budweiser Wed 10:00

He did claim seer right after Per blame him wolf
Wed 10:00

Yes Blue, I suggest you should read up
LabattBlue Wed 10:00

Sorry tuborg maybe i read back later
Wed 10:01

Oh i’m sorry�� well i really need to read back even yesterday’s chat
Tuborg Wed 10:01

I suggest to boycot you until then :)
Wed 10:01

Yes, you really need to. :)
Guiness Wed 10:01

like what i said, Blue. extensions are loooong.
LabattBlue Wed 10:02

Ok don’t talk me like this, i’m not new here
Guiness Wed 10:02

you might wanna go for shorter games.
Skol Wed 10:02

Skol here can't sleep... ASV. Also not happy about what Peroni did with last min reveal could have screwed me and village over badly.
Wed 10:03

I was the one who last sec balanced btw tho I was the one voting for Guiness too.
Moderator Wed 10:03

Skol votes to lynch Mythos
Skol Wed 10:03

Voting Mythos cuz he put 5th vote on Guiness without much explanation at all.
Wed 10:04

See u 1.5 hour before nightfall sleepy zZz
Carlton Wed 10:04

Who voted for guiness yesterday?
Tuborg Wed 10:04

Blue, it's not about being new or veteran here. I'd say the same in any case. I'm not impolite, just strict about my ethos here.
Wed 10:05

I did, I wasn't there to retract the vote. I was on the pro-lynch squad. Miller and I had a nice talk which led to that.
Wed 10:06

Again, on phone so can't check back all votes etc
Erdinger Wed 10:07

Hmm. Wolfy vibes from Bud. Mahou seems genuinely pissed.
Chang Wed 10:09

Guinness, fwiw, I think it's "extended", rather than "extensions"
Erdinger Wed 10:09

Although I still don't know how Peroni's shit-stirring yesterday would be considered toxic by any stretch.
Wed 10:09

Anyways, hi Chang/
Chang Wed 10:09

Hello
Erdinger Wed 10:09

I see you were not... around yesterday?
Chang Wed 10:10

(also agree, not toxic - maybe stupid, probably dangerous, but not toxic)
Wed 10:10

Correct, why would I have been?
Erdinger Wed 10:11

Just asking. I have a fresh new perspective to discuss with, since I was largely absent from the foray myself.
Wed 10:12

Question: What do you do think of Peroni right now?
Wed 10:12

Villager or wolf?
Chang Wed 10:12

Probably villager, insomniac seems like a really weird claim for a wolf
Erdinger Wed 10:14

So if you think of Peroni as a villager, Iassume you'll have a name or 2 to investigate, yes?
Wed 10:14

Considering some of the reactions seem to be directed to getting a villager killed.
Chang Wed 10:15

Two, specifically; hopefully we can add a third by the end of the day
Erdinger Wed 10:15

Good man, looks like we might be thinking similarly.
Wed 10:15

Or rather, good... beer?
Chang Wed 10:16

I should reread the conversations involving Guinness from yesterday, maybe he'll come across in a new light from claiming seer
Erdinger Wed 10:17

Well then, off we go back to reading.
Mahou Wed 10:17

Erdinger, he said he checked you as village if you missed that part
Wed 10:17

Anyways I was on Guinness yesterday too...
Wed 10:17

And that is why I am so furious now
Wed 10:18

Because I believed Peroni's claim at that moment, because you know, wolf find and all that...
Wed 10:18

And I am furious that we could have lost a seer that way
Wed 10:18

Because of someone's stupidity
Wed 10:19

And of course, I would have been seen in a bad light if that happened
Wed 10:19

Since I was one of the voters
Wed 10:19

And I was not around to change the vote once he admitted to have trolled around
Tuborg Wed 10:26

Mahou, please calm down, and filter out the anger when you're answering the following question: "Is Peroni probably a member of the wolfpack or not?" If you think they are, please give arguments about how that reflects their play. If you think they are not, please explain why your vote is lingering on them.
Wed 10:27

Also, @Wed 10:19 'I would have been seen in a bad light if that happened'... This seems like the statement of somebody who is too self-concerned, or a wolf, or both =)
Wed 10:30

how their play reflects that* (better phrasing in first statement)
Erdinger Wed 10:30

Came back from reading. So in short, Mahou, you're pissed off because you were played for a fool.
Wed 10:31

Understandable, but it makes no sense to lynch Peroni. What kind of gutsy wolf does it make him to attempt something like that?
Wed 10:32

The fact that Peroni used that move to create 2 teams out of his seer claim is probably a good move imo (would have been better if he hadn't outed the seer claim), as he created 2 teams quickly.
Wed 10:33

Doesn't mean I encourage it. It's a move that only works with ideal humans and we're a bunch of people who get pissed off at the slightest change in some bloody meta.
Wed 10:33

:p
Mahou Wed 10:34

well, he probably ain't a wolf, and there is a way to confirm him
Erdinger Wed 10:34

Chang, if you read back yesterday, I think you might find a 3rd name afterall.
Wed 10:35

Yes Mahou, I see the salt rescinding. Good beer.
Mahou Wed 10:35

One of stalkers/seer should check him tonight, without saying they will beforehand
Wed 10:35

And tomorrow, peroni is to tell us who visited him
Wed 10:35

And those confirmed roles can then verify him
Wed 10:36

My vote is on him out of anger yes, and I will change it once I sort out all the data I am digging trough, but I have 2-3 persons I am interested in
Erdinger Wed 10:36

Hmm. I feel like I could make a team with you and Chang.
Tuborg Wed 10:36

I think there's probably more to say/consider when giving who visited them, since most visits will be power roles.
Wed 10:37

Could be more like: I had no visitors (which can be contested), or I had # visitors (which is harder to verify because PRs dont know who else visited)
Erdinger Wed 10:37

Just wondering though, is it more appropriate for a harlot on Peroni as a measure to check the legitimacy of his insom claim?
Mahou Wed 10:37

^
Wed 10:37

‰
Wed 10:37

^
Tuborg Wed 10:37

To me it's a waste of a very precious resource
Mahou Wed 10:37

Damn the keyboard!
Wed 10:37

I agree with both
Wed 10:38

But yeah, I agree with tuborg too
Wed 10:38

So Peroni could just say the number of visitors
Erdinger Wed 10:38

Hmm. A stalker on Peroni doesn't seem to do much either though.
Wed 10:38

Seer will probably check him as village, which is rather predictable.
Mahou Wed 10:39

Naaah, we need to have him name the visitors, otherwise, if he is faking it ans says for example 1 visitor, when 2 people visited him, those 2 people will be satisfied with his answer
Wed 10:39

Because they will think they are the one
Erdinger Wed 10:39

True.
Mahou Wed 10:40

So the only way for him to be confirmed is either by seer, or a stalker... but both of those will not give us any important info other than confirming Peroni
Wed 10:41

And asking for a third visiting role that is not outed yet to visit him just leaves that person outed...
Wed 10:41

Which is not a good idea
Erdinger Wed 10:41

On a simpler note, we could just take his word.
Wed 10:42

HERETIC, I know.
Wed 10:42

But the play doesn't seem like what a wolf would do. Too brazen.
Wed 10:42

Too divisive.
Tuborg Wed 10:42

I agree with you there
Mahou Wed 10:43

Since we have 2 stalkers, we could have one check him and the other hunt for other troublemakers.
Wed 10:43

But how do we decide which one without Peroni also knowing which one
Erdinger Wed 10:44

Well, if we can't get a solution out of this, maybe we should wait for a few more heads to come into the chat?
Wed 10:44

=)
LabattBlue Wed 10:44

Hmmm,do we need more vote on sol for pressure?
Carlton Wed 10:44

Mahou,care to share with the rest of the slab who you have your eye on mate?
Mahou Wed 10:44

Aye, more people, more brains, we can figure something out
Erdinger Wed 10:45

On the note of what Blue just said, are people back to believing that pressuring a silent person will help magically summon them?
Wed 10:45

I believe Sol didn't speak a word yesterday, yes?
Mahou Wed 10:46

Sol will be smited anyways, so I see no point in voting there
Erdinger Wed 10:46

Hence I'm curious at those who voted there.
Mahou Wed 10:46

^
Wed 10:47

Just didn't want to mention it
Erdinger Wed 10:47

Tuborg, Carlton and Harbin. Hmm.
Mahou Wed 10:47

See I conduct my investigations in private :D
Erdinger Wed 10:47

Well, we can't be waiting silently all day now can we?
Tuborg Wed 10:47

Well, we can verify if the double-death lynch+smite bug has really been solved or not! ;D
Erdinger Wed 10:47

:p
Tuborg Wed 10:48

Erdinger, sounds like an interesting discussion. I only now notice, back on desktop, that Sol didn't say anything. I agree that somebody who's about to be smited is a waste of a lynch.
Wed 10:48

I had them as a 'silent/unremarkable' player, which seemed worthy of a vote, just to shake things up. i wanted piles other than Peroni/current claims.
Wed 10:48

What ya wanna do, Erdinger?
Erdinger Wed 10:48

Hmm.
Tuborg Wed 10:48

How can we turn the vote and make it more productive?
Erdinger Wed 10:49

I have 2 other names I'll bring out, "to shake things up".
Wed 10:49

Mythos and Budweisser.
Wed 10:49

Have they been checked on, by any form of intel that has been outed?
Tuborg Wed 10:49

Not that I know of.
Erdinger Wed 10:50

Well then, stacks on them, if you would please.
Moderator Wed 10:50

Erdinger votes to lynch Budweiser
Tuborg Wed 10:50

I like Mythos as somebody to poke. I have to read on Bud, no memory of them.
Wed 10:50

BRB
Carlton Wed 10:50

On phone RN, I went with Tuborg to stop votes on peroni and to encourage a silent to speak. I am happy to move the vote if Sol isn't going to be productive
Erdinger Wed 10:50

Hmm.
Wed 10:51

I'll start with Bud then. I remember a certain M.O. as a wolf. Raging villager,
Wed 10:51

Obvious lynch target because of weird caim.
Wed 10:51

A bit of support and voila!
Wed 10:51

Atr least that's what I feel from his dialogue with Mahou today.
Wed 10:53

*pokes Tuborg and Mahou*
Wed 10:53

*clink clink*
Wed 10:53

*pokes Carlton*
Mahou Wed 10:53

Erdinger, I agree woth you about Bud... Mythos, I have to reread his statements
Wed 10:53

Yet I have 2 more people
Erdinger Wed 10:54

Aaaaand no revelations on the names I guess?
Tuborg Wed 10:55

Was reading up on Bud.
Wed 10:55

Seems worthy of a vote. Hell, we can just lynch them, unless we got a strong lead. Worst loss is a Sleepwalker.
Moderator Wed 10:55

Tuborg votes to lynch Budweiser
Moderator Wed 10:55

LabattBlue votes to lynch Chang
Tuborg Wed 10:55

Best case: Bloodhound trying to verify what the hell Peroni's real role was after all that hassle.
LabattBlue Wed 10:56

Balance?
Tuborg Wed 10:56

You tell me.
Wed 10:56

You want to balance?
Erdinger Wed 10:56

Ahh, Blue. Why a balance?
LabattBlue Wed 10:56

Because there is balance already
Erdinger Wed 10:56

That's not how pressure works now does it?
LabattBlue Wed 10:56

If you wanna move i will move too
Erdinger Wed 10:56

:)
Wed 10:56

You tell us, do you wanna move?
LabattBlue Wed 10:56

I saw 3 person has 2 votes
Lasko Wed 10:56

what the hell happened after i left yesterday -.-
Erdinger Wed 10:57

Something.
Tuborg Wed 10:57

What would you want to do, Blue? What's your suggestion?
Lasko Wed 10:57

someone did a fake seer claim and outed seer????? -.-
Tuborg Wed 10:57

Yeah, yeah, we know.
LabattBlue Wed 10:57

Look, about peroni why should we lynch him?
Tuborg Wed 10:57

....
Erdinger Wed 10:57

Blue, I think you haven't read through properly.
Tuborg Wed 10:57

We're not the proponents of the Peroni lynch, wrong audience.
Lasko Wed 10:57

we are lynching peroni?
Tuborg Wed 10:57

UGH
Erdinger Wed 10:58

CAN YOU LOUTS GO AND BLOODY READ?
Mahou Wed 10:58

Damn it guys!
LabattBlue Wed 10:58

Sol?
Tuborg Wed 10:58

CAN YOU LOUTS GO AND BLOODY READ?
Mahou Wed 10:58

Read back before you talk!
Tuborg Wed 10:58

I second that
Mahou Wed 10:58

Anyways, Erding... no, sadly, names do not connect
Tuborg Wed 10:58

Mahou, how you feeling about Mythos or Bud?
Lasko Wed 10:58

Blue is asking that why should we lynch peroni so i just want to ask ;-;
Mahou Wed 10:59

Idk why, but one of the names on my list was Tuborg
Moderator Wed 10:59

LabattBlue votes to lynch Harbin
Erdinger Wed 10:59

JUST READ BACK AND STOP CRYING YOU LOUT.
Wed 10:59

:p
LabattBlue Wed 10:59

For now,
Lasko Wed 10:59

im not crying, i have read back
Tuborg Wed 10:59

If you don't know why, Mahou, you should find out why. Or find better filler parts for your sentences.
Mahou Wed 10:59

I hear ya
Tuborg Wed 11:00

Cheers, Lasko. So you know we're not for a Peroni lynch. We're looking into a few others.
Erdinger Wed 11:00

Surprisingly enough, I also found Tuborg in my notes... I wonder why.
LabattBlue Wed 11:00

Can you do sth?
Tuborg Wed 11:00

What do you want to do, Lasko?
Mahou Wed 11:00

It's just that I am at work now and all that and can't go back to yesterday's chat just now
Erdinger Wed 11:00

Ahh, that vote on the inactive. Yes. The jury isn't out on that one yet.
Mahou Wed 11:00

But I only noted the names that seamed wolfy to me
Wed 11:00

So after I reread, I will remember why
LabattBlue Wed 11:00

Can you tell us your sus list and your reason?@mahou @erdinger
Carlton Wed 11:00

Logic seems good for lynching Bud. At best BH at worst SW not that much of a loss
LabattBlue Wed 11:00

Also tuborg
Moderator Wed 11:00

Carlton votes to lynch Budweiser
Tuborg Wed 11:00

Blue, why would you want them right now?
Lasko Wed 11:01

i think i trust Bud
Tuborg Wed 11:01

If you're not aware of all things that have been said?
Erdinger Wed 11:01

Blue, how about you share your sus list first?
Lasko Wed 11:01

seer can check Bud
Tuborg Wed 11:01

Why you trust Bud, Lasko?
Erdinger Wed 11:01

^
Carlton Wed 11:01

^^
Lasko Wed 11:01

"gut feeling"
Erdinger Wed 11:01

Ahh, might need a transplant. Either one of us.
Tuborg Wed 11:02

Medical research has found strong correlations between gut feelings and advanced stages of lycanthropy =D
Erdinger Wed 11:02

Depending on Bud's litness.
Tuborg Wed 11:02

I mean, 'seer can check Bud' --> Yes. But 'seer can check anyone', and then we have a list of wolves, and we're ready. Evidently, we need to go about this in another way. Vote for people we find suspicious.
Singha Wed 11:03

Guiness visited Erdinger.
Tuborg Wed 11:03

Who would you vote for/start a lynch vote pile on, Lasko?
Erdinger Wed 11:03

Singha, thank you very much for the update.
Singha Wed 11:03

Sorry for being late today.
Erdinger Wed 11:03

It's cool.
LabattBlue Wed 11:03

Guys, what id bud is important role and do not want to claim?
Lasko Wed 11:03

Bud can't be lycan and sw at the same time so let seer check him is good plan, i think
Tuborg Wed 11:03

Blue, that arguments holds for almost anyone.
Erdinger Wed 11:04

Well, I think they should claim then, because I'm not trusting them without a satisfactory claim.
LabattBlue Wed 11:04

Lycan cant visit others lasko
Singha Wed 11:04

Let me go up and read a bit. Also that stunt peroni pulled off yesterday can cost us a lot.
Lasko Wed 11:04

<LabattBlue> Wed 11:04 Lycan cant visit others lasko
Wed 11:04

???????
LabattBlue Wed 11:04

Nvm
Wed 11:05

Got the meaning wrong
Wed 11:05

Don’t jump on me please
Erdinger Wed 11:05

Blue, I still want your sus list. Now more than ever.
Wed 11:05

*jumps anyways*
Tuborg Wed 11:05

maybe some people you have good feeling about so far as well, Blue! =)
Lasko Wed 11:06

do you have good feeling about me? :D
Erdinger Wed 11:06

No, you suck.
Wed 11:06

:p
Lasko Wed 11:06

nuuuuuuuuuuu :<
Erdinger Wed 11:06

I don't even know where you're from. What beer is that?
Singha Wed 11:06

Hm. Fun never stops with Peronnim
Erdinger Wed 11:07

Peroni is one hell of a beer, on the other side.
Singha Wed 11:07

I believe he saw a visit. And if he in fact did then he could be an insomniac.
Wed 11:07

But note this. I have never seen an insomniac in my life.
Wed 11:07

In these games.
Erdinger Wed 11:08

Hold on, I might have found something.
Wed 11:08

Just a sec.
Lasko Wed 11:08

im from Slovenia
LabattBlue Wed 11:08

Erdinger, 1yesterday i sused singha as he claimed with no intel,2:fake seer claim by peroni, and i don’t have good feelings about erdinger as he is so wolfy:D
Lasko Wed 11:08

i was named after a town :D
LabattBlue Wed 11:08

I only have good feeling about my self
Singha Wed 11:08

Laško pivo.
Wed 11:09

That is how your real name is
Erdinger Wed 11:09

Okay Blue. Fair enough. So Peroni, Singha and I are wolves for you yea?
LabattBlue Wed 11:09

Haaa you wanna me to make wolf team?:D hhah let me use my strong feelings
Singha Wed 11:10

Well Blue I am lit. I only claimed because I wanted to help out gain some info and what that did was to show thar we have tao stalkers
Wed 11:10

Two*
Erdinger Wed 11:10

LabattBlue Wed 11:08 Erdinger, 1yesterday i sused singha as he claimed with no intel,2:fake seer claim by peroni, and i don’t have good feelings about erdinger as he is so wolfy:D <---- This is pretty funny btw. You are addressing the person you sus as a wolf. I might spill some beer while laughing :'D
LabattBlue Wed 11:11

Erdinger i just tried to kidding as you jump on me all the time
Erdinger Wed 11:11

Okay, so Peroni claimed to have seen Bud visit him, and Bud seems to have claimed vanilla. How did no one notice that?
LabattBlue Wed 11:11

How can beers be wolf?
Wed 11:11

Also bud is sus
Erdinger Wed 11:11

You should ask mod, maybe he gets drunk and just makes beers wolf. :p
Tuborg Wed 11:12

Erdinger, I did put Peroni's insom report in my argument for a Bud-lynch.
Singha Wed 11:12

I noticted that erdinger
Wed 11:12

And i trust Peroni.
Wed 11:12

Want to hear my reasons?
LabattBlue Wed 11:12

Yeap
Erdinger Wed 11:12

Then all the more odd. We are generally assuming Peroni to being a villager, and his insom report makes no difference to voting for a lynch?
Carlton Wed 11:12

We all noted it mate...
Erdinger Wed 11:13

Then why was there no stack on Bud the whole time?
LabattBlue Wed 11:13

I don’t think that peroni is wolf i just called him sus, but he can be silly villager like me
Lasko Wed 11:13

idk, i think wolf would claim something better than that
Tuborg Wed 11:13

'I don’t think that peroni is wolf i just called him sus'
Wed 11:13

This seems contradictory, and confused/confusing
Erdinger Wed 11:13

Well, I do remember someone who used to do that. And now I'm entering meta territory. I'll stop.
Tuborg Wed 11:14

Surely, calling somebody suspicious and thinking that they're wolf should be causally related?
LabattBlue Wed 11:14

He is sus, his behavior i mean, like singha like beck like all that fucking persons who tried to lynch each other
Erdinger Wed 11:14

Carlton, odd that you were on mobile, noted that Bud contradicted on Peroni, AND YET decided to vote on a silent player.
Wed 11:15

Ok, remove silent since you were on mobile. Because people somehow don't remember the chat from previous days when on mobile.
Mahou Wed 11:15

So we have 4 persons confirmed now
Singha Wed 11:15

After a stunt he pulled off yesterday he kinda won't be trusted around here. So whatever he says to us we would deem as sus. But no he is no wolf. If he was he would let us lynch guiness and never talk about it again. So now.. Bud is a wolf who visits him. Either a dire or a bh. I guess a bh. And when he claims bud visited him bud got scared amd the only claim he can pull of is vanilla. So who do we trust. The one who pulled of a stunt?
Carlton Wed 11:15

Eh, it's all down to the flow of info
Mahou Wed 11:15

Guinness, Singha, Beck's and Erdinger
Harbin Wed 11:15

Erdinger, a visit that didnt kill or block, why would we want to lynch Bud. (Unless BH). I find it weird that people are susing Bud so highly.
Mahou Wed 11:15

With Peroni (unsure yet, but probably lit) that is 5
Erdinger Wed 11:15

Really now? And what about retaining some bits of that flow?
Wed 11:16

@Carlton
Wed 11:16

HArbin, I suggest you read back.
Wed 11:16

I'll be back in a minute.
Singha Wed 11:16

Bud visited Peroni but claims a vanilla.
Mythos Wed 11:16

Back and read back.
Wed 11:17

Don't get the votes on Bud.
Singha Wed 11:17

So he can only be a sleepwalker?
Harbin Wed 11:17

@Erdinger As I said before, I only voted Sol to help with pressuring and mentioned ill be available to chnage if required. I see game plan has changed. So I shall change my vote.
Mythos Wed 11:17

I don't have a positive read on him, still don''t get the votes on him.
Carlton Wed 11:17

Bud is either a
Tuborg Wed 11:17

Sleepwalker or Bloodhound to me --> Bud, that is.
Carlton Wed 11:17

SW or unrevealed role or a BH
Mythos Wed 11:17

Don't get it carlton.
Moderator Wed 11:18

Singha votes to lynch Budweiser
Mythos Wed 11:18

Either , peroni is a village or a wolf.
Singha Wed 11:18

For now my sus vot is here.
Carlton Wed 11:18

excuse the misclick
Mythos Wed 11:18

See , we can do loads of either or.
Singha Wed 11:18

Mythos you defending Bud so much only makes you a sus in my head.
Harbin Wed 11:18

FYi, I didnt mention this so wolves dont get any ideas, but if I was Bud and a harlot or prot, id claim vanilla. I mean it was wrong of Peroni to say their visit. He could have said, A nameless person visited me.
Mythos Wed 11:18

Make it so, i don't care.
Tuborg Wed 11:18

GD intel on Bud could tell us a lot about Peroni as well. The only situation we can't account for is that wolfpack-Peroni knew about Bud being Sleepwalker and decided to frame them this way. Seems unlikely.
Mythos Wed 11:19

But i don't get how he is more trusted than Peroni.
Moderator Wed 11:19

Harbin votes to lynch Bintang
Singha Wed 11:19

Peroni pulled of a stunt . He didnt have to tell us but he did.
Tuborg Wed 11:19

Harbin, that's a good point. I still feel we're gaining in this situation, with a lynch pile that is significantly higher but not too high.
Singha Wed 11:19

Wolves want him to be an ultimate sus and want us to lynch him
Mythos Wed 11:19

Yes, that gives him some credence, but why will a BH check him.
Wed 11:20

What benifits does that give them?
Tuborg Wed 11:20

Either we lynch the SW/BH, we get a wolf to lock themselves in a claim, or we out a valuable role.
Singha Wed 11:20

Because the wolves want to know who he is. Is he really a vanilla
Mythos Wed 11:20

A stunt like that is always pulled by vanilla.
Wed 11:20

Not by a power role, that does not answer why a BH will check Peroni.
Tuborg Wed 11:20

Confirming Peroni's role seems worthwhile for wolfpack?
Erdinger Wed 11:20

Mythos, what is your stance? I'm not getting anything clear from you?
Singha Wed 11:20

How do you explain that he saw a visit?
Mythos Wed 11:21

I just don't think Peroni makes a BH check in any universe.
Erdinger Wed 11:21

Mythos Wed 11:19 But i don't get how he is more trusted than Peroni. <---- Who is "he"?
Mythos Wed 11:21

I think StellaArtois kill is weird.
Erdinger Wed 11:21

Hmm.
Wed 11:21

True.
LabattBlue Wed 11:22

Singha why do you try hard to save peroni?
Erdinger Wed 11:22

But you haven't answered my question MYthos?
Mythos Wed 11:22

mixed up my names , was referring to Peroni and Bud.
Singha Wed 11:22

I am not trying hard
Erdinger Wed 11:22

Okay, so who is the "he"?
Carlton Wed 11:22

Stella kill is an odd one, but who would you pick as "likely to be eaten"?
Singha Wed 11:22

I am just happy for a possibility that he is an insomniac haha
Wed 11:22

Haven't seen one
Mythos Wed 11:22

Mythos Wed 11:22 mixed up my names , was referring to Peroni and Bud ==> Answered
Carlton Wed 11:22

Possible shift?
Erdinger Wed 11:23

Not really. I want thew answer more plainly given.
Mythos Wed 11:23

Erdinger, why do you think a BH will visit Peroni.
Wed 11:23

Also carlton?
Erdinger Wed 11:23

Frankly, it's only a possibility looking at the confusion Peroni generated.
Wed 11:23

Now, this "he" is referring to Peroni?
Mythos Wed 11:24

When you knew yesterday night , peroni fake claimed, did you think Gee, he is a village role , or hey its a yolo vanilla play.
Wed 11:24

Yes, to the peroni bit.
Erdinger Wed 11:24

I'd want some clarity.
Mythos Wed 11:24

WHAT CLARITY?
Erdinger Wed 11:24

Clarity.
Mythos Wed 11:25

You are kinda pissing me off here.
Erdinger Wed 11:25

Gee, ya think?
Singha Wed 11:25

Mythos.
Mythos Wed 11:25

Anyone else here.
Erdinger Wed 11:25

Nope, you;re in Limbo.
Wed 11:25

:p
Singha Wed 11:25

Geting overly defensive for no reason.
Mahou Wed 11:25

@Harbin Wed 11:17 @Erdinger As I said before, I only voted Sol to help with pressuring and mentioned ill be available to chnage if required. I see game plan has changed. So I shall change my vote.
Mythos Wed 11:25

He is asking clarity like for 5 sentences.
Wed 11:25

I don;t get his question.
Mahou Wed 11:26

Well mate if you were paying attention you would have noticed that Sol was up for a smite
Harbin Wed 11:26

Im here. But REALLy difficult to follow conversation
Mahou Wed 11:26

And that voting him would not help whatsoever
Singha Wed 11:26

You are not even thinking about a possibility that wathever the wolves do with peroni. Block him or have a bh check him, the village wont trust it. Bur I believe that he saw a visit. Explain it?
Erdinger Wed 11:26

I'm still onto voting for Bud, based on his vanilla claim after Peroni mentioned Bud visiting him.
Mythos Wed 11:27

I get the block, my only contention is that , a BH will never check peroni after the play he made yesterday.
Moderator Wed 11:27

Mahou votes to lynch Harbin
Singha Wed 11:27

I believe he would.
Mythos Wed 11:27

Unless he thought peroni was a wolf baiting a kill.
Erdinger Wed 11:27

You're telling me that Bud is an SW who JUST HAPPENED TO VISIT Peroni after that play? No way.
Singha Wed 11:27

Because of what i mentioned
Mythos Wed 11:27

That is the only case.
Singha Wed 11:28

No one would trust peroni. But strangley. I do.
Harbin Wed 11:28

@Mahou, ive seen MANY cases of near-smited who last minute vote and stay alive. And are just major wolf-lukers. So I didnt care abt that part. And Im available so I dont see why my action should be taken under the microscope. Its not like Im killing and leaving. Im here.
Singha Wed 11:28

I got mad yesterday but i am ok now.
Lasko Wed 11:28

im here, still don't know why people susing Bud so much
Tuborg Wed 11:28

I think we can disagree on whether the BH would check them, and we could translate that uncertainty to some chance of Bud being evil or good. Now, the loss of the SW versus the gain of the BH lynch seems worthwhile.
Lasko Wed 11:28

sw's visit is random
Wed 11:28

it's a coincident
Mythos Wed 11:28

Tubord, fair point.
Erdinger Wed 11:29

Well gents, I think I should mention a visit thanks to a keyword from Lasko.
Singha Wed 11:29

But peroni cant see him visit if he is not an insomniac. And him being a sw
Wed 11:29

No way
Erdinger Wed 11:29

"Coincident"
Lasko Wed 11:29

why did bh check peroni when he have other good target than peroni?
Singha Wed 11:29

Drumroll
Tuborg Wed 11:29

Mythos, can you really ascertain that the BH check is something the wolves would not do? How could you vouch for them/assume too much about their decision-making process? Of course, we have to think about how wolfpack would strategize, but I say that in this situation it's unclear.
Erdinger Wed 11:29

*drumroll*
Singha Wed 11:29

I believe Lasko and Bud are buddies.
Erdinger Wed 11:29

.
Singha Wed 11:29

Wolf buddies.
Mythos Wed 11:30

Cos, really the wolves are the dumbest fucks on planets if they checked Peroni.
Erdinger Wed 11:30

Hmm.
Wed 11:30

Good point there.
Mythos Wed 11:30

It can happen, but that is a dumb move.
Erdinger Wed 11:30

Nobody could be that dumb.
Singha Wed 11:30

It is dumb from your perspectivw
Mythos Wed 11:30

But Tuborg point is stronger than mine so i concede.
Erdinger Wed 11:30

In that case, might I shed some light on a certain visit I saw on the first night?
Singha Wed 11:31

Maybe they thought if he lied about seer
Moderator Wed 11:31

Mythos votes to lynch Budweiser
Singha Wed 11:31

Then he lies aboit vanilla.
Wed 11:31

Erdinger please do.
Tuborg Wed 11:31

Erdinger, I'm on the edge of my seat! =)
Singha Wed 11:32

Drumroll again
Mythos Wed 11:32

Go on..
Erdinger Wed 11:32

Well, this village doesn't like drama. Cutting to the chase, I saw Carling visit Stella N1. Didn't check last night since internet was unavailable until 10 am (game time).
Mythos Wed 11:32

Now this i believe.
Singha Wed 11:32

Hm...
Wed 11:32

Carling a bh that saw something?
Erdinger Wed 11:32

In short, I got sidetracked by reading on Bud, but I had this nugget.
Singha Wed 11:33

Then they decided to kill her off?
Erdinger Wed 11:33

Possible.
Mythos Wed 11:33

That is a stalker or a harlot claim.
Erdinger Wed 11:33

Stalker.
Singha Wed 11:33

Wow.
Mythos Wed 11:33

hmm
Singha Wed 11:33

3 stalkers?
Tuborg Wed 11:33

That's an interesting idea, but unless wolfpack got 2 BHs this contradicts the Bud-is-BH theory.
Erdinger Wed 11:33

Hence I want a claim from Carling as well.
Singha Wed 11:33

Mod loves lurking and stalking.
LabattBlue Wed 11:33

Hmmm carling checked stella n1? What if he is the bh and he checked stella and she was imporstant role? So they killed her last night?
Erdinger Wed 11:33

Possible.
Singha Wed 11:33

I just mentioned thst blue
Tuborg Wed 11:33

x)
Singha Wed 11:33

That*
Erdinger Wed 11:34

Or not. I only stalked. IF I were the harlot this would be a larger sus point.
Wed 11:34

Provided that only Carling visited Stella as well.
LabattBlue Wed 11:34

I was typing when you mentioned singha, so I didn’t see it
Moderator Wed 11:34

Erdinger votes to lynch Carling
Singha Wed 11:34

It's fine.
LabattBlue Wed 11:35

Well we have 3 stalker claim?:/ game full of stalkers :D
Harbin Wed 11:35

Okay erdinger, I thought you are some wolf, you were getting really weird there, but now I understand your play. And I like how Tuborg summed it up - that we cant be sure Bud Is a wolf, but he is worth lynching to be safe.
Singha Wed 11:35

Yeah i want carling to claim so he could possibly confirm our 3rd stalkee
Erdinger Wed 11:35

I believe Guinness already checked me as village, unless you think I'm the dire.
Singha Wed 11:35

He did. I confirm he visited that you.
Mythos Wed 11:36

hmm honestly my worst reads form yesterday to today are : LabattBlue ,Guiness,Erdinger,Tuborg,harbinger
Singha Wed 11:36

For what he saw ... he only knows that.
Mythos Wed 11:36

Now all of them look like lit, hmm
Erdinger Wed 11:36

Mythos, like-wise.
Lasko Wed 11:36

hmm, another stalker claim
Erdinger Wed 11:36

Hmmmmmmmmms't.
Mythos Wed 11:36

Carlton can you claim?
Wed 11:37

Lets not rush for a lynh.
Erdinger Wed 11:37

What a fucking surprise. You read my mind.
Wed 11:37

:p
Carlton Wed 11:38

I have the ability to but choose not to
Erdinger Wed 11:38

"I can, but I won't"
Wed 11:38

Keep it short and simple.
Carlton Wed 11:41

^^ that
Mahou Wed 11:41

Oh what a twist!
Wed 11:42

So yeah, Now I get what you meant Erdinger
Wed 11:42

Earlier when you were giving your sus list but did not claim
Erdinger Wed 11:43

I'm not that big of a player, I was just dicking around. :p
Wed 11:43

But yes, my sus on Carling is genuine. Never can be too careful of someone who visited an N2 kill on N1.
Wed 11:44

If he's a villager, he'll confirm my visit. If he's a wolf, he can't do anything but confirm my visit, since denying it will just confirm me.
Wed 11:45

Unless he really wants a good banter and denies it anyway.
Wed 11:45

:p
Lasko Wed 11:45

maybe he will claim vanilla :P
Erdinger Wed 11:45

Then I'll get him lynched.
Harbin Wed 11:45

Erdinger, how about your last night’s check? Anything worth mentioning?
Erdinger Wed 11:45

I swear some of you don't read carefully enough.
Mahou Wed 11:46

I have a list of people who are teaming up and are on my naughty list
Wed 11:46

Wanna know who?
Erdinger Wed 11:46

I mentioned I was off the grid until 10 am game time today due to internet issues.
Wed 11:46

@Harbin
Wed 11:46

Mahou, up to you.
Harbin Wed 11:46

I swear I could have sworn that about you. Honest mistake. Get over it.
Erdinger Wed 11:47

I'm a dick about it. Get good at reading. :p
Harbin Wed 11:47

Also, I remember reading that. It just didnt make sense to me. Bcz I was reading fast and 10 am for me is before day break. But now I understand obviously
Mahou Wed 11:47

Lasko, Harbin, Blue, Bud, Mythos
Wed 11:47

They are all somehow connected
Erdinger Wed 11:48

Hmmm.
Wed 11:48

Feels like it.
Wed 11:48

Lucky I wasn't the only one thinking so.
Harbin Wed 11:48

I know why im on that list. And I would not back down even now. I stand by what is said.
Erdinger Wed 11:48

Thank you Mr. Knight.
Wed 11:49

Glad to know we have a moral compass around.
Wed 11:49

:p
Harbin Wed 11:49

It is coz I didnt think lynching Bud was wise. I still dont get it. Especially now that we have Carlton in a weird light.
Erdinger Wed 11:50

Carling* maybe?
Wed 11:50

I still want a claim from Carlton, but I think Carling is of a more pressing matter innit?
Harbin Wed 11:51

NYeah sorry Carling
Erdinger Wed 11:51

Mahou, I might have a name out of that list. Based on my check, one person is swapped with Carling.
LabattBlue Wed 11:52

Mahou Wed 11:47 Lasko, Harbin, Blue, Bud, Mythos Wed 11:47 They are all somehow connected
Wed 11:52

? What do you mean?
Wed 11:52

Harbin Wed 11:49 It is coz I didnt think lynching Bud was wise. I still dont get it. Especially now that we have Carlton in a weird light.
Wed 11:52

Is it true?
Erdinger Wed 11:53

He meant Carling.
LabattBlue Wed 11:53

Why did you put my name in that list? Mahou?
Wed 11:53

I want to know
Erdinger Wed 11:54

I'll be sipping popcorn then.
Harbin Wed 11:54

I just want to lay my case about view on Bud so people dont get any wrong ideas. Bud cant be a killing wolf or a direwolf. That leaves BH. Recent news might suggest Carling is BH. And besides checking Perino seems a great waste. And if I was wolf, id stay far away from the stalker and seers scene anyways. We all know what a huge crime scene that was. So pushing to lynch him seemed like wrong. When we could pressure people we know NOTHING about.
Erdinger Wed 11:55

Context: The time when we were on Bud I hadn't revealed my visit. And my read on Bud is posted up for everyone to see.
Wed 11:55

Correction: I know.
Wed 11:56

Correction: Avoid that bit.
Harbin Wed 11:57

But then Tuborg made it sound like because of lack of intel, it was worth lynching a sleepwalker. And that changed my mind. But Im still unsure.
Erdinger Wed 11:58

The only thing I'm sure about you, is that you're always unsure for some reason or another. :p
Guiness Wed 12:01

Bud is a good lynch, and probably a good person too. he claimed vanilla before the inso check, so hes stuck to a sw claim.
Erdinger Wed 12:02

Hmm.
Wed 12:02

Explain "probably a good person".
Guiness Wed 12:03

my lack of emoji's is off-putting, isnt it?
Wed 12:04

good person, deep down. not a good villagery role.
Erdinger Wed 12:04

Your explanation is more off-putting right now.
Wed 12:05

But this is a pointless exercise to discuss what I'm referring to. Better to discuss on Discord post-game.
Guiness Wed 12:05

mhm
Erdinger Wed 12:06

You checked me last night. What was your result?
Wed 12:06

I have this impulsive habit of wanting confirmation real-time.
Guiness Wed 12:07

im not that smart to catch that. village
Wed 12:07

ill play along for now
Erdinger Wed 12:07

Cool.
Wed 12:07

Thoughts on Carling?
Guiness Wed 12:08

small car
Erdinger Wed 12:08

*Genuine* thoughts on Carling?
Guiness Wed 12:08

...
Wed 12:08

tiny car?
Wed 12:08

ok u made me curious
Wed 12:09

lemme read back
Erdinger Wed 12:09

*Genuine* thoughts on Carling *that contribute to the game*?
Wed 12:09

Right, please do.
Mythos Wed 12:10

@ Carling : Please don't play the shitty game of i won't claim.
Wed 12:10

At-least confirm the visit.
Erdinger Wed 12:11

Don't worry, I have a feeling that he'll comply.
Wed 12:11

And he can't deny it, unless he has a death wish.
Mythos Wed 12:11

You mean to say if he claims anything other than a vanilla or confirms the visit , he has your trust.
Erdinger Wed 12:12

Not really, but him denying the visit does 2 things.
Wed 12:12

1) It confirms that he is a wolf
Wed 12:13

Actually...
Wed 12:13

Make it one.
Wed 12:13

:p
Guiness Wed 12:14

ok. so u claim stalker (thats neat) and you saw Carling visit Stella yesterday, and Stella died today.
Erdinger Wed 12:14

Correction: Carling visited Stella N1.
Wed 12:14

Please clean up the language, it is potentially misleading.
Wed 12:15

:p
Guiness Wed 12:15

oh N1, ok.
Mythos Wed 12:15

Let me put some paranoia : So many stalkers suggest we are either in dearth of seer/intel digging roles of other types, or we have a omega.
Lasko Wed 12:15

@Harbin, Harbin, Blue, Bud, Mythos, we are a team base on what Mahou think :D
Erdinger Wed 12:15

Stop generating senseless paranoia of an Omega. The kills would be a lot more otherwise.
Lasko Wed 12:15

team villagers :D
Guiness Wed 12:16

OMEGA
Wed 12:16

O M E G A
Mythos Wed 12:16

I gave two options
Wed 12:16

you latched on to the second.
Singha Wed 12:16

Lasko i am sorry dude
Wed 12:16

But you are such a wolf in my book
Lasko Wed 12:16

bunch of stalkers and sws :D
Singha Wed 12:17

And you will be untill you claim and someone confirms you
Erdinger Wed 12:17

Mythos, because your indication of paranoia will always hold more scare value with the keyword: Omega.
Singha Wed 12:17

But I am 95 percent sure you are a wolf
Lasko Wed 12:17

woffffffffff
Erdinger Wed 12:17

wofffffffffff
Wed 12:17

Just had to do it.
Guiness Wed 12:17

i dont think you can connect stella's death with carling's n1 visit. theres a whole day gap.
Erdinger Wed 12:18

...
Mythos Wed 12:18

Nope it had a different subtle underlying point also, that we maybe have no seers..
Erdinger Wed 12:18

@Guiness Let me present it like this then.
Mythos Wed 12:18

Guiness Wed 12:17 i dont think you can connect stella's death with carling's n1 visit. theres a whole day gap ?
Erdinger Wed 12:18

"BH checks seer"
Guiness Wed 12:18

sorry
Wed 12:18

haha
Erdinger Wed 12:18

Correction: BH checks Stella
Wed 12:19

Next night wolves kill Stella
Wed 12:19

See how it fits my paranoia?
Guiness Wed 12:19

my superior math skills arent working
Singha Wed 12:19

...
Erdinger Wed 12:19

And Mythos, your other underlying point throws shade on Guinness then.
Singha Wed 12:19

Do you want to hear me out?
Wed 12:19

This is some next level stuff but based on 3 stalkers stuff I believe it.
Erdinger Wed 12:19

Which is not what I think a villager would do without evidence to implicate.
Wed 12:19

Go on Singha.
Singha Wed 12:20

Carlton is a stalker
Wed 12:20

Who is afraod to claim
Wed 12:20

Because we already have 3 of them
Wed 12:20

Afrooood
Erdinger Wed 12:20

Carlton, you've been AFROOOOOOED.
Mythos Wed 12:21

Which is what exactly a villager would do, in areas of uncertainty with no multiple circles of trust being built, none should be trusted.
Wed 12:21

My read on you goes slightly negative.
Erdinger Wed 12:21

So you believe in no cornerstones then.
Mythos Wed 12:21

Not on D3.
Erdinger Wed 12:21

My read of you hasn't been positive anyways.
Mythos Wed 12:21

Singha, who are you suses?
Erdinger Wed 12:21

So no harm done.
Singha Wed 12:21

Laško is my biggest one
Mythos Wed 12:22

and
Singha Wed 12:22

You Mythos were a sus but now not so much
Guiness Wed 12:22

what about Calton?
Lasko Wed 12:22

BIGGEST ONE
Singha Wed 12:22

And bud and harbin
Lasko Wed 12:22

B I G G E S T O N E
Singha Wed 12:22

Yeah you just confirm yourself wolfy
Lasko Wed 12:22

sounds important
Erdinger Wed 12:23

Vewwy vewwy important.
Wed 12:23

Lasko, your susses?
Carlton Wed 12:25

I'm not a stalker FYI
Erdinger Wed 12:25

Cool.
Singha Wed 12:26

Then Carlton what are you?
Wed 12:26

Seer
Mythos Wed 12:26

He is a super -seer.
Singha Wed 12:26

Damn everyone except Lasko seem so lit :D
Erdinger Wed 12:27

A super -seer? How does a -seer work in the first place? :p
Lasko Wed 12:27

hmm, can't find anyone seems sus
Wed 12:27

can i sus myself?
Erdinger Wed 12:27

Sure, go on mate.
Singha Wed 12:27

Can you claim so I don't sus you anymore?
Erdinger Wed 12:27

((I was genuinely asking, if you were wondering.))
Singha Wed 12:27

Or I will sus you even more.
Lasko Wed 12:27

Lasko, you are the biggest sus here
Erdinger Wed 12:28

Is biggest sus a role? :p
Lasko Wed 12:28

maybeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Erdinger Wed 12:28

((Seriously man, no list at all?))
Guiness Wed 12:29

carlton, a car that weighs 1000 kg
Singha Wed 12:30

I just don;t see why Carlton doesn't want to claim.
Wed 12:30

Unless he is a seer and then he gets sused for being a second seer and then we might think he is a bh.
Wed 12:30

Paranoia is here.
Guiness Wed 12:30

i thought carling was the sus guy?
Erdinger Wed 12:31

Carling, yes.
Singha Wed 12:31

Sorry
Wed 12:31

We have a carlton and a carling
Wed 12:31

damn
Guiness Wed 12:31

so why carlton?
Wed 12:31

oh
Singha Wed 12:31

because he said something like
Wed 12:31

i can claim but i do not want to
Erdinger Wed 12:31

Streissand effect?
Guiness Wed 12:31

messiah 10/10
Carling Wed 12:32

You bagel-eating shnizbucket twuncemongs.
Singha Wed 12:32

Oh here we go :D
Erdinger Wed 12:32

Simple english, boogerman.
Carling Wed 12:32

I have been SUMMONED.
Singha Wed 12:32

You have been summoned.
Erdinger Wed 12:32

No, fuk off u cnt demun.
Carling Wed 12:32

Yes, indeed, I have been summoned.
Guiness Wed 12:33

we demand six packs
Erdinger Wed 12:33

Onto your claim. And a six-pack.
Carling Wed 12:33

I demand trial by combat.
Singha Wed 12:33

So are you the 4th stalker? 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse we are.
Guiness Wed 12:33

ooooh
Carling Wed 12:33

No, worse.
Singha Wed 12:33

Hm
Mythos Wed 12:34

I am ready for a combat you pussy, but can you claim.
Erdinger Wed 12:34

Good, that's our BH. GET' EM.
Wed 12:34

"Worse"
Carling Wed 12:34

Of course, I could claim Stalker and be accurate most of the time anyway.
Erdinger Wed 12:34

reeee
Carling Wed 12:34

I am a Harlot.
Singha Wed 12:34

Oh
Erdinger Wed 12:34

Ah, I see.
Carling Wed 12:34

Yep, you outed the Harlot, you dumb shnitzles.
Singha Wed 12:34

Did Stella Bella see anything?
Mythos Wed 12:34

whooie whooie
Erdinger Wed 12:34

Don't care. Checks?
Carling Wed 12:34

No one visited Stella N1.
Lasko Wed 12:34

*grabs popcorn*
Erdinger Wed 12:34

Well fuck-a-doodledo.
Singha Wed 12:34

Oh so she did not see any visitors :D
Guiness Wed 12:34

harlot is a code for im a harlot
Singha Wed 12:35

poor stella
Mythos Wed 12:35

second check fast
Carling Wed 12:35

I AM NOT A GOSH DARN BEHOLDER!
Mythos Wed 12:35

don't think.
Singha Wed 12:35

I KNOW
Mythos Wed 12:35

fast
Wed 12:35

faaaast
Carling Wed 12:35

Mythos you dumb dumb, that's called "giving last night's protection".
Erdinger Wed 12:35

Shut up Mythos.
Singha Wed 12:35

I just always mix up damn beholders checks
Carling Wed 12:35

Which I refuse to.
Erdinger Wed 12:35

Hmm.
Carling Wed 12:35

Whoever I visited, no one visited them. I will say that and nothing more today.
Guiness Wed 12:36

oh ok, so not me then
Wed 12:36

yay
Erdinger Wed 12:36

Well, back to Bud then.
Singha Wed 12:36

Strange that you would not be on stalkers or seer claims.
Carling Wed 12:36

I don't visit sub-par beer.
Wed 12:36

Who is to say I wasn't?
Singha Wed 12:36

Well Someone visited me
Wed 12:36

you were not on me
Guiness Wed 12:36

me too
Carling Wed 12:37

me three
Singha Wed 12:37

I v isited guiness
Carling Wed 12:37

Wait a minute.
Singha Wed 12:37

visited*
Erdinger Wed 12:37

Me to, ololololo
Wed 12:37

u faek fuk u sukk
Guiness Wed 12:37

mishu
Carling Wed 12:38

"Why weren't you on the Seer(s) or Stalkers?" Fuck that noise, is all I can really say.
Mythos Wed 12:38

Heya, i may be dumb dumb, but a proud dumb dumb.
Guiness Wed 12:38

ICHAEL EWE
Carling Wed 12:38

I was tempted to visit Peroni.
Mythos Wed 12:38

I want the check anyways.
Carling Wed 12:38

No.
Wed 12:38

You can have it tomorrow.
Wed 12:38

Maybe.
Wed 12:38

If I feel generous.
Singha Wed 12:38

Oh damn why you did not visit peroni
Erdinger Wed 12:38

Maaaaaybe?
Wed 12:38

Okay.
Singha Wed 12:38

that would be awesome to know if bud really did visit him
Mythos Wed 12:38

The great lord has spoken.
Singha Wed 12:38

which I believe he did
Erdinger Wed 12:39

Frankly, I find a reason to go back to Bud now.
Moderator Wed 12:39

Erdinger votes to lynch Budweiser
Carling Wed 12:39

Suffice to say I adopted my patented "outskirts Harlot" strategem.
Wed 12:39

Protect the unexpected and see if they die.
Wed 12:39

Protect being metaphorical.
Mythos Wed 12:40

Care to say your suspect lists and reasons.
Carling Wed 12:40

You for being an arseface.
Mythos Wed 12:40

And
Carling Wed 12:40

Not Peroni, for surely obvious reasons.
Erdinger Wed 12:41

I'm liking Carling more and more, for no bloody reason.
Carling Wed 12:41

Beck did not rub me the right way yesterday.
Wed 12:41

I like me too.
Mythos Wed 12:41

I am on so many lists that i am lit by exclusion princinple.
Carling Wed 12:41

I am lit because you do not like me and are clearly evil. How the turns have tabled.
Mythos Wed 12:41

But i never said i did not like you poop face.
Carling Wed 12:42

You just did.
Erdinger Wed 12:42

*Sips popcorn*
Mythos Wed 12:42

*tables flipped*
Carling Wed 12:42

Care to give me the checks of the Stalkers and Seer?
Wed 12:42

I am updating my notes.
Wed 12:42

You all talk too much.
Guiness Wed 12:42

the night beckons... Peroni: guys im not really not an inso, i was just doing that to create activity. whoever wanted to lynch Bud is probably evil.
Carling Wed 12:42

Peroni was GENIUS with that move.
Guiness Wed 12:42

XD
Erdinger Wed 12:42

N1 - It's your movement. @Carling
Mythos Wed 12:42

Not really.
Erdinger Wed 12:43

N2 - Forgot because internet was down for me.
Wed 12:43

Forgot, pssht. Couldn't check. Correction.
Mythos Wed 12:43

*couldn;t check* *see the subtle shade that i throw on him, making me even more sus*
Carling Wed 12:43

It quite genuinely could have had the Wolves tipping their hand, knowing that they are inadvertently getting rid of a Seer.
Singha Wed 12:44

Mythos making other people claim
Wed 12:44

please be first to claim then :D
Mythos Wed 12:44

It also makes the village go with the first seer check like they do in 99.99999% of cases, how do you differentiate.
Erdinger Wed 12:45

Mythos, elaborate your stance on Peroni.
Carling Wed 12:45

I differentiate by this principle: "Do the Wolves give a shit?"
Erdinger Wed 12:45

Because you seem to be hopping at your convenience.
Mythos Wed 12:45

I have no fixed stand, i saw people pilling on Bud, so i gave some arguments there.
Erdinger Wed 12:45

Talk about a ghostly stance.
Mythos Wed 12:45

Peroni, is more village then wolf, if gun to my head.
Carling Wed 12:46

I will remove the gun, then.
Erdinger Wed 12:46

In which case you have no reason to present a differing argument.
Carling Wed 12:46

Why are we stacking on Budweiser?
Guiness Wed 12:46

wolves need to eat first before they can give a shit, Carling, its science
Singha Wed 12:46

Because Peroni said bud visited him
Wed 12:46

but bud claims vanilla
Mythos Wed 12:46

I had , because i wasn't sure, i can only get conviction by arguing otherwise.
Erdinger Wed 12:46

Something something Bud seen visiting Peroni something
Wed 12:46

Bud claiming vanilla something something
Singha Wed 12:47

Peroni claims insomniac . i mean not really claiming insomniac but only an insomniac would know who visited him
Mythos Wed 12:47

It was Tuborg argument that i accepted as superior.
Erdinger Wed 12:47

Cool.
Singha Wed 12:47

Also Peroni was willing to get smited so he proves he was visited :D
Erdinger Wed 12:47

Carling, anything else you need to ask?
Beck Wed 12:47

I think Bud is not bh, why would bh check Peroni?
Carling Wed 12:48

Do you like pretzels?
Erdinger Wed 12:48

Not at all.
Singha Wed 12:48

he might not be a bh
Erdinger Wed 12:48

Hate them to my gut.
Wed 12:48

:p
Carling Wed 12:48

IS IT SO HARD. TO UNDERSTAND. VANILLA VARIANTS.
Singha Wed 12:48

but a sleep walker is just really a coincidence
Carling Wed 12:48

It would be the WORST check of all time.
Wed 12:48

So Bud is surely a Vanilla.
Moderator Wed 12:48

Carling votes to lynch Mahou
Erdinger Wed 12:49

ext-278 - a story of coincidences
Beck Wed 12:49

Sw is random, can happen.
Moderator Wed 12:49

Singha votes to lynch Harbin
Singha Wed 12:49

I will move to my other sus
Guiness Wed 12:49

we sure hope we have a gd.
Mythos Wed 12:49

Wolves are idiots maybe,am i and beck a team, should a gd come out, is the seer fake,am i wolf, is carling dumdum, will erodinger get best wolf play award.All the answers after the break.
Carling Wed 12:49

And Harbin is sus due to...?
Carlton Wed 12:49

So Carling claims one of the few roles that gets them off the hook?
Erdinger Wed 12:49

I must COMPLETELY get that award. Should I be a wolf.
Carling Wed 12:50

Yes.
Moderator Wed 12:50

Erdinger votes to lynch Mythos
Carling Wed 12:50

Eat my shorts, Carlton.
Erdinger Wed 12:50

Back to this beer for now.
Singha Wed 12:50

Carlton not wanting to claim makes you a sus too
Guiness Wed 12:50

is d3 the new d2?
Mythos Wed 12:50

a bittersweet vote, fwiw, my read on you erdinger is more positive than negative.
Guiness Wed 12:50

:P
Erdinger Wed 12:50

Don't care. You're an absolute negative for me.
Carling Wed 12:51

I think we should lynch Tuborg today.
Erdinger Wed 12:51

Go eat a feta salad, uggo. :p
Mythos Wed 12:51

That you should care, cos my opinions will give my teammates away.
Carlton Wed 12:51

Why Carling?
Carling Wed 12:51

How am I supposed to know? Ask me later once we've discovered the reason for it.
Erdinger Wed 12:51

Still don't care. :p
Mythos Wed 12:52

no u
Wed 12:52

brb
Wed 12:52

unless someone also want to claim.
Erdinger Wed 12:52

no u
Wed 12:53

cliam bich ololo
Carling Wed 12:53

I think Erdinger is sus.
Erdinger Wed 12:53

I think I'm sus too.
Wed 12:53

:p
Guiness Wed 12:53

erd is sauce
Erdinger Wed 12:53

Chilli sauce.
Mythos Wed 12:54

Biatch get ready for a spanking :p
Carling Wed 12:54

kill me
Beck Wed 12:54

I got a good idea, let us lynch Carling.
Erdinger Wed 12:54

Your stalk last night fucker.
Wed 12:54

:p
Guiness Wed 12:54

dont ask why
Carling Wed 12:54

yes
Erdinger Wed 12:55

"i get bes ideas. we lych tiny car"
Wed 12:55

ree
Carling Wed 12:56

despacito
Erdinger Wed 12:56

https://mtgcardsmith.com/view/complete/full/2018/3/12/1520912981004925.png
Carling Wed 12:56

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/25/b5/17/25b51722291092d22e62b36724b4dfd0.jpg
Beck Wed 12:56

Stop this or I SHIFT you tonight.
Erdinger Wed 12:57

u sukk, card no show fcker
Guiness Wed 12:57

different card games lololol
Mythos Wed 12:57

Quick question : Why we balancing again?
Wed 12:57

And can we stop the shitposting.
Wed 12:57

i was also guilty of it.
Guiness Wed 12:57

yes, we can
Erdinger Wed 12:57

But I won't. :p
Guiness Wed 12:57

but should we?
Mythos Wed 12:58

i think we agreed to lynch Bud.
Beck Wed 12:58

But why?
Moderator Wed 12:58

Carling votes to lynch Harbin
Erdinger Wed 12:58

Hmm. Not a bad choice I guess.
Mythos Wed 12:59

Because of the insomniac theory.
Wed 12:59

Why Harbiing tho? I had bad reads of him but not so much that i would consider it lynch worthy, or maybe pressure.
Wed 12:59

*harding
Carling Wed 13:00

I'm supposed to know?
Mythos Wed 13:00

*damm phone
Carling Wed 13:00

I'm just here to cause crap until I get bored.
Tuborg Wed 13:00

Alright, I'm back.
Erdinger Wed 13:00

"Why we balancing" "Why we lynching someone" Make up your bloody mind.
Beck Wed 13:00

ok, I got an idea, I roll a d20 right now and we lynch whoever gets rolled.
Tuborg Wed 13:00

Can we keep the noise levels to a minimum?
Carling Wed 13:00

Do it, Beck.
Erdinger Wed 13:00

Dewet.
Carling Wed 13:00

Tuborg, I still want to lynch you.
Mythos Wed 13:00

Carling Wed 13:00 I'm just here to cause crap until I get bored. ==> I know everyone is shitposting, but this made me angry.
Tuborg Wed 13:00

Why, Carling?
Carling Wed 13:01

I don't know.
Tuborg Wed 13:01

Let's ALL cut the shitposting then.
Erdinger Wed 13:01

A N G E R Y
Beck Wed 13:01

Ok, I rolled 1.
Guiness Wed 13:01

why are we lynching carling??
Beck Wed 13:01

Lynch Chang.
Moderator Wed 13:01

Beck votes to lynch Chang
Erdinger Wed 13:01

Am I bored enough to follow a D20 dice roll? Not really.
Wed 13:02

:p
Carling Wed 13:02

25% chance of any random lynch hitting a Wolf, so...
Guiness Wed 13:02

i like the idea. d20 dice is never wrong
Bintang Wed 13:02

I'm on the road today and will be touch and go
Mythos Wed 13:02

Carling, if you are so bored, i suggest you do something else.
Moderator Wed 13:02

Mythos votes to lynch Carling
Carling Wed 13:02

Mythos, if you take what I say seriously, I suggest you talk to someone else.
Bintang Wed 13:03

My cats are being a bunch of dicks
Erdinger Wed 13:03

*sipping resumes*
Tuborg Wed 13:03

A BH check on Budweiser might not be good, but we can't really know if wolfpack plays suboptimal. I still stand by my point that, from the assumption of ignorance, the Sleepwalker-or-Bloodhound lynch is good.
Wed 13:03

Even if there's a higher chance of a Sleepwalker in Bud. The reward is SO much greater if it's BH, it outweighs the lower probability?
Wed 13:03

Carling, want to discuss that with me?
Carling Wed 13:03

I dislike all mislynches of all kinds.
Erdinger Wed 13:04

*sipping continues*
Tuborg Wed 13:04

I'd say that in a setup like this, there's almost never a solid lynch. So you have to take some risks, right?
Guiness Wed 13:04

you cant win if youre afraid of mislynch
Carling Wed 13:04

In this case, I find it exceedingly unlikely that a BH would check Peroni *unless Guiness was a Wolf.*
Erdinger Wed 13:04

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Guiness Wed 13:05

HMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmm
Erdinger Wed 13:05

11-D chess. Nahh.
Tuborg Wed 13:05

Elaborate on that one, please.
Carling Wed 13:05

They would want to know how Peroni knew, no?
Wed 13:05

Otherwise, what's the point?
Erdinger Wed 13:05

^
Mythos Wed 13:05

Even if Guiness was a wolf, its a suboptimal move for a BH to check Peroni.
Tuborg Wed 13:05

Well, Peroni said that they just made it up. So they would want to make double sure by checking with BH?
Carling Wed 13:06

Less so, however, Mythos.
Wed 13:06

Sure.
Erdinger Wed 13:06

Fair point.
Tuborg Wed 13:06

It might be just the uncertainty over the crazy play that got them as far as checking it.
Carling Wed 13:06

Precisely.
Wed 13:06

They needed to know how it happened.
Erdinger Wed 13:06

Only in the case that Guinness is a wolf. Not otherwise.
Wed 13:07

I assume?
Carling Wed 13:07

Why don't I want to lynch Peroni? Because if I do, then I have an urge to also lynch Guiness.
Guiness Wed 13:07

makes sense. now i seriously need to shift.
Erdinger Wed 13:07

Kill off both the claims. Spartan.
Carling Wed 13:07

The "I'm a Wolf" meta while actually being a Wolf died several games ago when it didn't work.
Tuborg Wed 13:07

I thought the lynch on Peroni wasn't supported for a longer while already.
Mythos Wed 13:08

hmm, a crazy play gets a crazy reaction.I don't want to be contrarian anymore, but if a GD is there, he can come up, it would help us solidifying our lynch for today.
Tuborg Wed 13:09

So, the current majority vote is on Harbin. What's up with that?
Carling Wed 13:09

And how does Heineken's role give us any insight?
Mythos Wed 13:09

Knowing we have a harlot, and maybe a prot can keep him safe for one night.I assume he anyways has to come out tommorow.
Tuborg Wed 13:09

I must've missed the arguments there.
Moderator Wed 13:09

Guiness votes to lynch Budweiser
Tuborg Wed 13:09

Yeah, I think Mythos is talking about tomorrow, not today.
Wed 13:09

And then after we do some informative lynch today, probably.
Carling Wed 13:09

I just voted them so that people would get around to telling me why we were voting them.
Guiness Wed 13:10

LYNCH THE BUD!!!!!!!!! ahuuu
Carling Wed 13:10

What was Guiness' check last night?
Erdinger Wed 13:10

Me.
Wed 13:10

Village.
Tuborg Wed 13:10

Carling, I don't really understand.
Wed 13:10

So you vote Harbin the find out why the others voted that way?
Carling Wed 13:10

Yes.
Wed 13:11

Because then more people will ask why. Which is what is happening.
Tuborg Wed 13:11

I'm not a fan of Blue, Mahou is so-so, so the pile doesn't look very nice.
Carling Wed 13:11

I did something to find out the reason for doing it.
Tuborg Wed 13:11

You're associating yourself with the wrong crowd ;d
Wed 13:11

Alright.
Carling Wed 13:11

I associate myself with no one.
Erdinger Wed 13:11

There's no right or wrong crowd. Seems like a poor choice of words.
Tuborg Wed 13:11

So now you want to wait for the other voters to come and speak out?
Carling Wed 13:12

Probably.
Guiness Wed 13:12

ill probably check Harbin next.
Carling Wed 13:12

As for Guiness, I find myself trusting him, and that makes me trust Bud moreso.
Tuborg Wed 13:12

So you probably trust Erdinger as well, at this moment?
Erdinger Wed 13:13

Weirdly enough, I still find it too bloody coincidental for Bud to have visited Peroni as an SW.
Guiness Wed 13:13

and Per just so happened to be an inso?
Bintang Wed 13:14

Plane is taking off, asv for now
Carling Wed 13:14

Fits my theory from yesterday, does it not?
Moderator Wed 13:14

Bintang votes to lynch Mahou
Carling Wed 13:14

"Lots of Vanilla variants", is what I believe I theorised.
Moderator Wed 13:14

Mythos votes to lynch Budweiser
Erdinger Wed 13:14

Ahh, I see where you're getting at.
Guiness Wed 13:14

Mahou is Magic, right?
Erdinger Wed 13:14

Yes.
Wed 13:15

In japanese.
Tuborg Wed 13:15

Carling, what you think of Erdinger then?
Guiness Wed 13:15

so Mahou is a jappo beer?
Carling Wed 13:15

Trust.
Tuborg Wed 13:15

How come?
Carling Wed 13:15

He knew my visit.
Wed 13:15

Which would be impossible to guess, surely.
Erdinger Wed 13:16

I kinda start seeing how you might have felt the urge to lynch Tuborg, Carling.
Carling Wed 13:16

He also actually visited me N1 like I told everyone to, thus making him my best friend.
Erdinger Wed 13:16

Erdinger and Carling, besties.
Carling Wed 13:16

No, I just picked his name out a hat. It's an exercise I do. Pick someone random and find reasons to lynch them.
Guiness Wed 13:16

hmm i wanna bestie
Carling Wed 13:16

Or *make* the reasons.
Erdinger Wed 13:16

Hmm.
Tuborg Wed 13:17

In that case, I didn't understand the subtext of "Carling Wed 12:53 I think Erdinger is sus" well. It was in this storm of shitposting, probably was sarcastic or funny or something?
Erdinger Wed 13:17

Odd that a player of Tuborg's caliber would miss out that I stated your visit out first though. Hence the question "How come?"
Carling Wed 13:18

Odd that anyone thinks my outlandish statements are anything other than shitposting.
Wed 13:18

But sometimes they are serious. But you should be worrying when they are.
Tuborg Wed 13:18

Well, then I beg you: please, stop the shitposting.
Guiness Wed 13:18

Tuborg's caliber, huh...
Tuborg Wed 13:19

It's annoying, it's confusing, it clogs up the chat, it doesn't help. We're with a lot of people, so there's a lot of people talking already. Keep it clean.
Carling Wed 13:19

I thought it already apparent that I stopped.
Tuborg Wed 13:19

Alright, then this is just a general statement to others.
Erdinger Wed 13:20

A sense of irritation.
Wed 13:20

Certainly not the shitposting.
Wed 13:20

Something else...
Wed 13:20

Well, leave that be for now I guess.
Carling Wed 13:21

I am establishing my own circle of trust.
Tuborg Wed 13:21

I didn't understand that. But if you want to leave it, oh well.
Wed 13:21

And how do you establish such a circle?
Erdinger Wed 13:21

Erdinger, Carling, Guinness, Bud (mhh), Peroni, Singha.
Tuborg Wed 13:21

And how is it different what any village member does in this game?
Erdinger Wed 13:21

Anyone that I missed out maybe?
Beck Wed 13:21

Yes, me
Carling Wed 13:21

Why do I trust Singha again?
Beck Wed 13:22

I am very trustworthy
Erdinger Wed 13:22

That's my list Carling.
Wed 13:22

Ahh, yes. Beck.
Carlton Wed 13:22

I'm far from trustworthy right now
Carling Wed 13:22

Obviously.
Wed 13:22

Go claim or something/
Wed 13:22

.
Erdinger Wed 13:23

"I have the ability to, but I choose not to" - So much fluff I want to lynch for just that.
Wed 13:23

:p
Carlton Wed 13:23

not yet
Erdinger Wed 13:23

Your call.
Wed 13:23

Anyway, that makes 7 I believe.
Carling Wed 13:23

I'll bet you £20 that my role is more important than yours, and I claimed anyway.
Tuborg Wed 13:24

But there also was a clear incentive for you to claim, Erdinger's N1 stalk on you on Stella.
Guiness Wed 13:24

carling and carlton are so confushing. lets remove 1 of em from the list.
Mythos Wed 13:24

Carlton, who are you suspects?
Wed 13:25

Agreed,i double checked their names inititally.
Wed 13:25

*your
Carlton Wed 13:27

Well that's a matter of perspective Carling. Mythos my sus list is as follows: Miller, Bud, Lasko, Carling, Mythos, Blue from least to most sus. Got it?
Erdinger Wed 13:28

Every list huh Mythos?
Mythos Wed 13:30

Thanks.For my notes.This hasn't been my A game .
Carlton Wed 13:30

With Mythos it's mostly that you rub me the wrong way. Your choice of words and actions seek to provoke rather than clarify.
Erdinger Wed 13:30

Ahh, someone speaks my lingo.
Wed 13:30

Carlton ++
Mythos Wed 13:30

Most of them are intentional, but i get it.
Tuborg Wed 13:31

Carlton, you're voting for Bud now, who's not very high in your list. Can you say something about that?
Carlton Wed 13:32

Rustling a branch to see what flies away is all well and good, just don't start a bushfire
Mythos Wed 13:32

Maybe we need to start one here.
Tuborg Wed 13:33

Uhm...? Please be clear =)
Mythos Wed 13:33

He was addressing me i think tuborg.
Carlton Wed 13:33

I haven't moved my vote since Bud was top suspect. More information has come out since then so I'll shift.
Moderator Wed 13:33

Carlton votes to lynch LabattBlue
Tuborg Wed 13:34

Ah, now I understood it better @Mythos.
Mythos Wed 13:34

LabattBlue , another sweet name i want to know more about.
Erdinger Wed 13:34

I'll go away. This crowd feels weird.
Mythos Wed 13:34

Maybe tomorrow
Tuborg Wed 13:34

Is this the wrong crowd then, Erdinger?
Erdinger Wed 13:34

I don't define crowds as right or wrong.
Wed 13:35

Whichever feels like the one I trust more, is what you will probably define as right.
Tuborg Wed 13:35

In the context of this game, I do.
Erdinger Wed 13:35

That's your matter. Not mine.
Carlton Wed 13:35

Blue has claimed to read the past and yet has proven they haven't taken anything in with their constant questions of known info
Tuborg Wed 13:36

Yeah I agree, although I'm not sure if we're voting for seeming lack of participation and/or understanding, or because they're suspicious. My feelings about Blue is a tangled ball of both, I guess.
Wed 13:36

So I could vote in that direction, but I have less solid arguments for it, whereas I have a clear view why a Budweiser-vote is strategic.
Carlton Wed 13:36

They seem to want to intentionally muddy the waters - I prefer things crisp and clear
Wed 13:37

I have no issue with a Bud lynch
Mythos Wed 13:37

To be honest, a balance is also a good option.
Wed 13:37

If bud is a BH , he is not running away.
Tuborg Wed 13:38

True!
Mythos Wed 13:38

Plus, one of the other intels can visit him, in that way we draw more people to link him with tommorow and take a call.
Tuborg Wed 13:38

Well, we could still go for a lynch in another direction.
Carlton Wed 13:38

I thought you were against balance Mythos...
Mythos Wed 13:39

Not really.
Wed 13:40

I have taken some contrarian positions in the game , most of them were to know the reason for other actions , hear their arguments.
Wed 13:41

Bintang=1 (Harbin), Budweiser=3 (Mythos, Guiness, Tuborg), Chang=1 (Beck), Guiness=1 (Chang), Harbin=4 (Mahou, LabattBlue, Singha, Carling), LabattBlue=1 (Carlton), Mahou=1 (Bintang), Miller=1 (Budweiser), Mythos=2 (Skol, Erdinger)
Wed 13:41

^^ Vote tally for now.
Wed 13:42

brb in an hour.
Carlton Wed 13:44

Looks like Sol is heading for a smite
Tuborg Wed 13:57

I just did a reread on Harbin. I wouldn't put them in my top village list, but doesn't look like the person who needs votes the most today. I'd like to hear on this, especially from those voting for Harbin...
Peroni Wed 14:31

Hey I'm back, gimme a few minutes to read back
Mahou Wed 14:35

Man, this was a rather busy day at work
Wed 14:36

I hate to ask for it but can someone give me a TL;DR from that point when I left
Carlton Wed 14:44

TL;DR - people complained about others not reading back
Lasko Wed 14:51

Hmmm
Moderator Wed 14:51

Lasko votes to lynch Bintang
Lasko Wed 14:51

I have bad feeling about Bintang
Wed 14:52

*runs*
Tuborg Wed 15:00

Why, Lasko?
Peroni Wed 15:05

OMG that was so long and it seems like still nothing has been accomplished by all the talk
Wed 15:05

I'm glad to be the center of attention though, quite flattering
Singha Wed 15:06

Peroni do not flatter yourself. That stunt you pulled
Wed 15:06

If you are a wolf that would be comical
Peroni Wed 15:06

true
Budweiser Wed 15:07

omg its too long to read it all
Wed 15:07

I quit after half of the conversation after I left
Peroni Wed 15:07

Did anyone else have information from the last two days cause it looks like people are balancing just out of not knowing anything else yet
Budweiser Wed 15:07

I saw pp sus me, I want to make some correction of what I've read
Wed 15:08

I claimed Vanilla AFTER Peroni said he saw me visited him
Peroni Wed 15:08

Bud what's important to you is that they sus you of either BH or SW
Budweiser Wed 15:08

yes and I'm still typing
Peroni Wed 15:08

oh sorry
Budweiser Wed 15:09

I can be a SW, or Peroni lied about inso, or I can be BH or BL
Wed 15:09

I already said it in the morning
Wed 15:09

to be compare with the possibility of me being BH who checked a fake seer claimed vanilla, if I was other villager, I will sus myself BL more
Wed 15:10

because like I said, I really thought the real seer will check the fake seer, to see if it was wolf's play, or trolling play
Wed 15:10

Again, since I claimed vanilla after Peroni said his check, shouldnt I claim st else
Wed 15:11

like the cool protector, or HM, why do I have to claim vanilla if I lie?
Wed 15:11

I'm not that stupid
Wed 15:11

The only thing can confirm me is a seer check
Wed 15:11

since I'm not dw
Wed 15:12

but if all agree that waste a check + no lose lynching a vanilla or sw + dig me can confirm Peroni
Wed 15:12

+ we dont have a good target and pp thirsty for a lynch
Wed 15:13

then I myself have to admit that if I wasnt the target to lynch, I'm a good choice for a lynch a possible SW/vanilla/BL/BH
Wed 15:15

In the morning I thought if Peroni was confirmed lit, I could earn litness too, because I'm confirmed not a killing role
Wed 15:15

but this village has different thinking ^^
Wed 15:16

And some contribution about others: Erdinger claimed he saw Carling visited Stella and Stella was killed in N2, I think it's possibly a BH. We can push, or seer check Carling
Tuborg Wed 15:20

Carling claimed Harlot
Wed 15:20

That lead is not worthwhile atm.
Budweiser Wed 15:21

oh sorry I was reading back that part too
Tuborg Wed 15:21

So who do you suspect, Bud?
Budweiser Wed 15:21

are you asking a vanilla who he sus?
Tuborg Wed 15:21

What ya wanna do with today's lynch?
Wed 15:21

Yes.
Budweiser Wed 15:21

can I be honest?
Tuborg Wed 15:21

Vanilla has opinion as well.
Wed 15:21

I'd prefer itt, even.
Wed 15:22

Brb
Budweiser Wed 15:22

If I was other villager, who is not myself, from what I've read (not fully read), I think lynching me, or balance is good
Wed 15:22

like sb already said before, lynch a BH or lose a Vanilla, too juicy to skip
Wed 15:23

but ofcuz I prefer a balance and intel checks me
Wed 15:23

*still multitasking and trying to read
Mahou Wed 15:27

Geez!
Wed 15:27

I've read it all actually
Wed 15:27

And guys, I beg you to make my job easier next time and cut the crap
Tuborg Wed 15:28

Bud and Mahou, opinion on Harbin please!
Mahou Wed 15:29

Idk, Harbin had some weird vibes and slips here and there
Tuborg Wed 15:30

Slips? Can you please quote them, and/or be more specific?
Mahou Wed 15:30

Voting for someone who is to get smited and some other stufd
Wed 15:30

Stuff *
Wed 15:31

I can't bother to go back and search for those in such a long chat filled with a lot of shitposting... Reading it once was tough enough thank you
Budweiser Wed 15:32

I'm trying to read back the part that I didnt to understand why we are voting Harbin, but havent found
Wed 15:32

and still trying
Wed 15:32

this village talks too muchhhh
Mahou Wed 15:33

Also, Carlton earned my sus by not wanting to claim while being asked to do so by so many others, and being sused by many others
Chang Wed 15:33

This village talks too much shit
Wed 15:33

FTFY
Wed 15:33

Beck, why don't you like me?
Mahou Wed 15:33

Anyways... Mythos.
Moderator Wed 15:34

Mahou votes to lynch Mythos
Budweiser Wed 15:34

ok, read it all, still dunno why voting Harbin
Wed 15:34

can anyone pls kindly explain for me, plzzz
Wed 15:34

?
Wed 15:34

I have about 5 minutes before bed
Mahou Wed 15:35

My vote on him was because he joined the Sol-lynch train that was destined for doom anyways
Budweiser Wed 15:35

I saw many pp joined the lynch Sol train
Mahou Wed 15:35

Plus some other stuff which I can't remember and I am not taking the actual notes
Budweiser Wed 15:35

a push because of Sol's inactive as I remember
Wed 15:36

we are haivng 3 3 3
Mahou Wed 15:36

Yeah it was dumb as fuck... Sol never spoke a word I beloeve
Budweiser Wed 15:37

i was there in the morning
Wed 15:37

it was early as I remember
Wed 15:37

and everyone voted to push him show up
Mahou Wed 15:37

3ays are good but I will just say that I am not up for a balance (although I did create one by voting mythos, but I voted the person I sus)
Wed 15:38

I was there too
Budweiser Wed 15:38

my shit memory couldnt remember that all
Wed 15:38

Just noted intel only
Mahou Wed 15:38

But how can you force someone who is not there and won't be there to show up?
Budweiser Wed 15:38

so... still, dont understand why pushing harbin
Wed 15:39

as I remember I wanted to join the train too, but it was 3 or 4 already, so I voted sb else
Chang Wed 15:39

Mahou, I believe the expectation is that he would turn up at some point
Budweiser Wed 15:39

And they said they want to push him to showup
Wed 15:39

he was just inactive in D2
Wed 15:39

many pp miss D1, so I dont count
Mahou Wed 15:40

But entire d2, plus d3 now... it's almost 99 percent sure he won't show up
Chang Wed 15:40

Sure, but we didn't know that earlier?
Budweiser Wed 15:40

it was early in the morning when they push
Wed 15:40

I dont remember the other who voted came back or not
Wed 15:40

so did Harbin show up?
Wed 15:41

I mean after the lynch
Wed 15:41

the vote
Chang Wed 15:41

I don't really see what D2 has to do with it either
Mahou Wed 15:41

Same, I don't care about d1 inactives, but I do care for d2 inactives... well not really, because I always rule them out as either a wolf or useless
Tuborg Wed 15:41

Mahou, you could ctrl-f on Harbin to check his messages! :)
Chang Wed 15:41

Missing D2, if anything, should be an indication that the player will turn up today
Wed 15:42

Mahou, that's nonsense
Mahou Wed 15:42

Can't do Tuborg
Wed 15:42

If you find ctrl on phone, please let me know
Chang Wed 15:42

Just because someone didn't speak D2 doesn't mean that they didn't read it
Tuborg Wed 15:42

=D
Chang Wed 15:42

Also, menu -> find in page
Moderator Wed 15:42

Tuborg votes to lynch Bintang
Tuborg Wed 15:43

I'm satisfied with Bud atm. Moving to a rebalance on Bin.
Wed 15:43

I like him as lynch option.
Budweiser Wed 15:43

Bintang?
Bintang Wed 15:43

Just landed
Budweiser Wed 15:43

wasnt him Guiness check ?
Wed 15:43

n1
Mahou Wed 15:43

Well, I always consider inactive ones a lost cause. Sue me
Tuborg Wed 15:44

Wait, maybe they were.
Wed 15:44

In that case, nvm! :)
Moderator Wed 15:44

Bintang votes to lynch Budweiser
Mahou Wed 15:44

Doesn't mean they are lit though.
Bintang Wed 15:44

More 3s
Mahou Wed 15:44

If we have a dw in the game
Wed 15:44

And this ^
Wed 15:44

Would a village person fuck around like that?
Wed 15:45

He said like 0 constructive things
Bintang Wed 15:45

I've been on a fucking plane
Mahou Wed 15:45

Today yes, but what about yesterday
Wed 15:45

And you were on a plane for like what, few hours?
Tuborg Wed 15:46

That's quite the tone and accusation.
Wed 15:46

So, vote with me for the lynch.
Wed 15:46

Either bite or stop barking, if you ask me.
Bintang Wed 15:46

Us. 715 takeoff flying East
Chang Wed 15:46

Who is barking at you, Tuborg?
Bintang Wed 15:47

2pm nightfall
Mahou Wed 15:47

Not at him
Bintang Wed 15:47

Well, here it's noon
Mahou Wed 15:47

Hey, cut it with the meta defence
Bintang Wed 15:47

I'm the ML.
Wed 15:47

Not revealing my squad
Chang Wed 15:48

You have a squad?
Bintang Wed 15:48

All full as if this morning
Chang Wed 15:48

Why?
Mahou Wed 15:49

Hmm *analysis mode activated*
Bintang Wed 15:50

Why what?
Mahou Wed 15:50

Nah, relax Bin
Chang Wed 15:50

Why do you have a full squad?
Bintang Wed 15:50

Tried to catch some wolves and missed
Mahou Wed 15:50

Oh, you were talking to Chang
Tuborg Wed 15:50

If you did, how would we know?
Chang Wed 15:51

That doesn't seem very constructive, trying to catch a wolf N1?
Bintang Wed 15:51

Gotta jet, I have miles to go still
Chang Wed 15:51

Hmm
Mahou Wed 15:51

Lol
Wed 15:51

Yeah
Wed 15:51

Hmmm indeed
Bintang Wed 15:52

One last thing, Guinness checked me n1
Wed 15:52

So had the village role him out as seer?
Tuborg Wed 15:52

Maybe we have Illuminati, this being the source of conflict internally?
Mahou Wed 15:52

He is a seer
Wed 15:53

That's like 99.999 percent certain
Chang Wed 15:53

(a) I still don't fully trust Guinness (b) You could be DW
Bintang Wed 15:53

Then get off my back
Mahou Wed 15:53

Nope, as chang said, you could be dW
Tuborg Wed 15:53

Would be interesting to get all Masons out there, but that seems counterproductive at this moment.
Chang Wed 15:53

But then I also don't trust Carling
Mahou Wed 15:53

Until Mason are confirmed you are on my sus list
Chang Wed 15:53

So what do I know
Tuborg Wed 15:55

Harlot claim will sort itself out, probably
Chang Wed 15:56

Mmmh
Mahou Wed 15:57

For now it seams that way
Chang Wed 16:00

Seems* :)
Carling Wed 16:04

I don't trust this Chang guy.
Tuborg Wed 16:06

Mutual distrust, hooray!
Wed 16:06

Carling has the better cards here at the moment.
Carling Wed 16:07

It looks like all of my theories are magically coming true, don't you think?
Tuborg Wed 16:08

Please remind me
Carling Wed 16:09

1. Vanilla variants.
Wed 16:09

2. Internal conflict via subfactions and conflicting roles.
Wed 16:09

3. Tuborg needs to be lynched.
Tuborg Wed 16:11

I agree on the first two, not on the third.
Peroni Wed 16:13

The only convincing argument I've heard so far is bud saying to lynch himself (probably trying to use reverse psychology), does anyone else have information that would point to a good suspect?
Tuborg Wed 16:14

If you don't have that information, why not just make it up? *smirk*
Wed 16:14

Anyway, I've gotta go. Will be back in the evening.
Carling Wed 16:14

Peroni, Harp checked you as Wolfpack. What say you in your defense?
Peroni Wed 16:15

When was this?
Carling Wed 16:15

11:58
Wed 16:16

Harp Wed 11:58 i checked peroni wolfpack
Peroni Wed 16:17

harp didn't even speak then
Carling Wed 16:17

Liar.
Peroni Wed 16:17

Are you trying to do what I did yesterday?
Carling Wed 16:17

No.
Peroni Wed 16:18

Well you're doing a poor job
Wed 16:18

Let me copy the messages from that time
Wed 16:19

Harbin Wed 11:57 But then Tuborg made it sound like because of lack of intel, it was worth lynching a sleepwalker. And that changed my mind. But Im still unsure. Erdinger Wed 11:58 The only thing I'm sure about you, is that you're always unsure for some reason or another. :p Guiness Wed 12:01 Bud is a good lynch, and probably a good person too. he claimed vanilla before the inso check, so hes stuck to a sw claim.
Carling Wed 16:19

How are those messages relevant?
Peroni Wed 16:19

Harp did not speak at 11:58
Carling Wed 16:19

Yeah, but what are you trying to prove?
Moderator Wed 16:20

Peroni votes to lynch Carling
Erdinger Wed 16:20

I swear, people have to really understand how Carling works.
Peroni Wed 16:20

come at me with something valid and I'll talk to you carling
Mahou Wed 16:20

You bet :D
Erdinger Wed 16:21

Peroni, is that a legit vote? Are you actually that triggered?
Carling Wed 16:21

What a fool you are. I'm a god, how can you kill a god? What a grand and intoxicating innocence. How could you be so naive? There is no escape. No lynch or smite can work in this place. Come, lay down your weapons, it is not too late for my mercy.
Singha Wed 16:21

Peroni if you are really just a vanilla then you are trying really hard. For what I still do not see.
Peroni Wed 16:21

no, it's not gonna be lynchnig him, I just wanted him to stop talking
Singha Wed 16:21

And Carling will talk no matter what you do
Erdinger Wed 16:21

Mate, that's dumb. Like, real dumb.
Singha Wed 16:22

It's who he is and it is good that he is village
Wed 16:22

So your vote does notthing
Erdinger Wed 16:22

You just gave him more ammo instead.
Singha Wed 16:22

Bintang is quiet but already checked as village.
Erdinger Wed 16:22

Good luck not wanting to bash your head on the keyboard for the rest of the game.
Wed 16:22

:p
Singha Wed 16:22

So he might be just a vanilla
Wed 16:22

How manny vanillas can we have?
Erdinger Wed 16:22

Singha, did you read back?
Wed 16:23

Properly?
Carling Wed 16:23

Bintang claimed ML.
Singha Wed 16:23

I am reading back properly.
Erdinger Wed 16:23

^
Singha Wed 16:23

Oh ^^
Wed 16:23

Ok. Can you tell me if he already recruited?
Mahou Wed 16:23

A lot of it can be skipped though
Singha Wed 16:23

While I read
Erdinger Wed 16:23

Apparently so.
Peroni Wed 16:23

his team is full
Erdinger Wed 16:23

I'm highly offended that Bintang didn't recruit me.
Singha Wed 16:23

Ok with who?
Wed 16:24

I am highly offended too.
Erdinger Wed 16:24

H I G H L Y O F F E N D E D
Singha Wed 16:24

Why does he have 3 votes?
Wed 16:24

No one believes him?
Erdinger Wed 16:24

Apparently not.
Wed 16:25

Looking at Chang right now. Reeks.
Carling Wed 16:25

Bintang strikes me as a madman.
Erdinger Wed 16:25

Which is all the more reason I'm pissed at Bintang for not recruiting me.
Wed 16:25

Madmen should be attracting madmen!
Wed 16:26

>:(
Singha Wed 16:26

He probably recruited Beck or something.
Wed 16:26

As I said yesterday that he would.
Erdinger Wed 16:26

Hmm.
Singha Wed 16:29

Or just look at people who where spreading their wings
Wed 16:29

acting like they own the world
Wed 16:29

And you will get the masons
Chang Wed 16:32

Reeks?
Erdinger Wed 16:32

tl;dr People were bitching about other people not reading properly, and then people were bitching about people typing too much.
Wed 16:32

Chang, yes. You reek.
Chang Wed 16:33

Why?
Erdinger Wed 16:33

To paraphrase someone, "gut feeling".
Chang Wed 16:33

I don't think that's valid
Wed 16:34

I can't reek from a gut feeling
Harp Wed 16:34

You type a load of nonsense. Generally gives a wolfy vibe.
Chang Wed 16:34

Either I reek or I don't
Erdinger Wed 16:34

Gee, we're playing validity now?
Wed 16:35

Harp, you might want to tag the person you aim that to.
Chang Wed 16:35

This is a game of logic and deduction, we're always playing validity and soundness...
Harp Wed 16:35

i meant chang, he asked why he reeks.
Erdinger Wed 16:36

Chang Wed 15:53 (a) I still don't fully trust Guinness (b) You could be DW <----- DW claims ML, a LOT of soundness right here.
Chang Wed 16:36

Harp, I never meant to talk nonsense; please highlight some specific examples for me so I can avoid the same mistakes in cities
Wed 16:36

... Future
Erdinger Wed 16:37

Distrust in a seer claim from a battle where the other claim admitted to a fake claim, SOUND judgement people!
Chang Wed 16:38

Erdinger, I gave my reasons for distrusting Guinness, so I'd rather you counterargued those than my generic statement
Erdinger Wed 16:38

Sorry, those pointers felt like faff compared to the stuff today. Mind simplifying it?
Singha Wed 16:38

Chang you sus a 100 percent seer.
Chang Wed 16:39

Why 100%?
Singha Wed 16:39

On what basis and no he sounds wolfy is no basis even though some people use it as such
Wed 16:39

Because o the checks he gave.
Wed 16:39

Trust me if he was a bh he would have known that Bintang is the ml and he would be dead
Wed 16:39

Bintang would be dead
Erdinger Wed 16:39

^
Chang Wed 16:39

That's not how this works
Singha Wed 16:40

It actually is
Wed 16:40

You susing him makes you a wolf who wants to throw some shade and make the village miss lynch
Erdinger Wed 16:40

Wolves: "We found an ML, let's leave him alive to create a team and make this a bigger pain in the arse for us"
Singha Wed 16:40

Yup. ^^
Chang Wed 16:40

I don't remember seeing anyone confirm his visit to Bintang
Singha Wed 16:41

I confirmed him today and Beck confirmed me.
Wed 16:41

And 2 recruits of Bintang will confirm Bintang
Erdinger Wed 16:41

Right, no one saw my visit to Carling on N1 either. With the amount of shade I've been throwing around, surely I would be suspect as well.
Singha Wed 16:42

And yeah. If wolves want to claim mason. They will slip up. Eventually they will make a mistake somewhere.
Chang Wed 16:42

Just because he claimed to have checked a villager who is actually a villager doesn't make him a wolf
Wed 16:42

Not a wolf*
Singha Wed 16:43

Why do you sus him so much?
Carlton Wed 16:43

Hello again, anyone want to publish a claim list so far?
Singha Wed 16:43

And I told you. He sound wolfish is not a basis.
Erdinger Wed 16:43

@Carlton No. :p
Singha Wed 16:43

I dont sus Lasko and Mythos only because they sound wolfy
Chang Wed 16:43

I don't suspect him "much", I just thought he was controlling the direction of the conversation yesterday and it set off alarm bells
Singha Wed 16:43

He needed to.
Carlton Wed 16:44

@Erdinger Fair!
Singha Wed 16:44

Because we where about to lynch him
Erdinger Wed 16:44

Context seems to be lost these days.
Singha Wed 16:44

were and where damn it
Wed 16:44

i always mess those two up
Chang Wed 16:44

Coupled with the seer check, counter claim and then withdrawal of the original claim, I just don't have compete confidence
Singha Wed 16:45

Well that first seer check was a set up and just dumb but still there we are.
Erdinger Wed 16:45

Alright then, what do you think is actually going on with Peroni and Guinness?
Wed 16:45

@Chang
Singha Wed 16:45

A guy who is mad about being vanilla decided to destroy the village :D
Wed 16:45

And then had a kind heart :D
Moderator Wed 16:45

Miller votes to lynch Carling
Chang Wed 16:45

Yes but it's no real different from the seer catching a wolf who also claims seer scenario
Singha Wed 16:46

It is different
Wed 16:46

He baited the real seer to come out without actually intending too
Erdinger Wed 16:46

Erdinger Wed 16:45 Alright then, what do you think is actually going on with Peroni and Guinness? Wed 16:45 @Chang
Chang Wed 16:46

Fake seer couldn't know he was picking the seer, so what is more likely? Seer is real or seer is a gut reaction from a wolf?
Singha Wed 16:46

But what strikes me is that is really coincidental that he really got the real seer.
Erdinger Wed 16:46

And Miller, I see you. Better speak up like a big boy.
Wed 16:46

Vote on a harlot claim? No no buddy.
Singha Wed 16:47

I don't know Chang but I see your reasons for sussing him
Erdinger Wed 16:47

I still don't.
Wed 16:47

It's basically the argument I made about Bud this morning.
Chang Wed 16:47

If you want to know my reasons for suspecting the harlot, they're just as strong...
Erdinger Wed 16:47

Which holds lesser weight, now that I think of it.
Wed 16:48

Oh, do tell. And do answer my question from earlier while you're at it.
Chang Wed 16:48

I find the manner in which he claimed (the aggressive GG you outed a power role) to be almost trope-y
Wed 16:48

Like a wolf overplaying it
Erdinger Wed 16:49

Yes, and a non-lethal wolf would want a stalker on his back right from the get-go.
Wed 16:49

Very impressive wolf power play.
Chang Wed 16:49

Why would he have a stalker on his back after claiming Harlot?
Carling Wed 16:49

Remember that I went out of my way to invite everyone to visit me N1.
Erdinger Wed 16:49

I suppose you didn't read the D1 day chat?
Chang Wed 16:50

He's proven he can nonlethally visit, I doubt he's at a big risk of being stalked unless he messes up the claim
Moderator Wed 16:50

Miller votes to lynch Carlton
Chang Wed 16:50

(Me? No, I skip D1 and I read back D2)
Erdinger Wed 16:50

Yes, because in a semi-closed seup, a wolf makes a bold statement and expects absolutely NO ONE to visit him.
Chang Wed 16:51

And so, tinfoil hat time, @Erdinger
Erdinger Wed 16:51

What is this, the wolfy Sherlock Holmes?
Wed 16:51

Fuck off mate. Your theory sound more crackpot than tinfoil.
Wed 16:51

:p
Chang Wed 16:53

Peroni vs Guinness: Peroni fake claims seer with a wolf check; the real seer (for some reason, I can speculate on why later if you require) doesn't come forward immediately... Then comes the CC and the real seer still doesn't claim because now that would just make things worse... And finally Peroni retracts the claim and now the real seer is a bit stuck
Wed 16:54

What do you think?
Miller Wed 16:54

YO
Wed 16:54

I read backl
Wed 16:54

fml
Erdinger Wed 16:54

Chang, it sucks. Get a new scoop.
Wed 16:54

:p
Miller Wed 16:55

This game annyos me
Wed 16:55

asv
Erdinger Wed 16:55

Your speeling annoys me.
Wed 16:55

speeling
Miller Wed 16:55

fuck off
Erdinger Wed 16:55

fuk u
Miller Wed 16:55

No intention to contribute today.
Wed 16:56

cya tomorrow
Chang Wed 16:56

Erdinger, it sucks because it isn't possible or it sucks because you don't think thats what happened?
Wed 16:56

Hey, Miller
Wed 16:56

You still here?
Erdinger Wed 16:56

Nope, he ran away.
Chang Wed 16:56

Lame
Erdinger Wed 16:57

And yes, your theory sucks. Equally lame.
Miller Wed 16:57

It was good until carling showed up
Erdinger Wed 16:57

Implausible.
Chang Wed 16:57

How are we supposed to improve the game for him if he doesn't tell us why its annoying him?
Miller Wed 16:57

Lynch carling
Wed 16:57

ban him from the site
Carling Wed 16:57

no u
Miller Wed 16:57

so I can finally have fun playing
Wed 16:57

u suck
Wed 16:57

f off.
Erdinger Wed 16:57

I don't care about asshats who show up, voting once or twice, and then just saying the game sucks.
Carling Wed 16:57

Oh, you're going to hate me.
Chang Wed 16:57

Erdinger, implausible but not impossible! I'll take that
Erdinger Wed 16:58

Chang, I'll lynch you for trying to suck up like that.
Wed 16:58

:p
Chang Wed 16:58

Miller, what is annoying you, specifically?
Miller Wed 16:58

his person
Carling Wed 16:58

That's rude.
Miller Wed 16:58

yeah
Erdinger Wed 16:58

"he sez bad wurdz"
Singha Wed 16:58

Miller
Wed 16:58

Cool off take a beer
Erdinger Wed 16:58

"he dun liek to b polite liek gud kidz"
Carling Wed 16:59

The only thing I have done wrong is do nothing right.
Miller Wed 16:59

Erdinger are youi kidding?
Wed 16:59

as I mind about language
Wed 16:59

see Bud's complaint today
Erdinger Wed 16:59

I don't care for petty complaints like that. Honestly. :p
Miller Wed 17:00

you don't have to care
Carling Wed 17:00

What have I done wrong?
Erdinger Wed 17:00

Apparently, everything.
Carling Wed 17:00

And what makes your opinion on it worth listening to?
Singha Wed 17:01

Miller just do not care about shitposting.
Erdinger Wed 17:02

Who? Miller?
Skol Wed 17:02

... I made it to the bottom? I just want to make a few comments. As of now I think Budweiser is relatively trustable with the vanilla claim. Peroni seems kinda lit. Singha Guiness and Beck all lit... Erdinger and Bintang pretty lit... So that isn't good cuz apparently everyone feels kinda lit...
Wed 17:03

I kind of want someone to get lynched but I don't even know who to choose after all that chatter. Another day of balance is okay with me cuz it seems like village has a ton of info role anyways?
Carlton Wed 17:03

Seven out of twenty is hardly everyone mate
Chang Wed 17:03

Skol, why do you trust Beck?
Wed 17:04

Maybe I missed something to do with him
Singha Wed 17:04

Why do people want to go and lynch everyone ?
Skol Wed 17:04

Beck saw Singha visiting Guiness I think.
Singha Wed 17:04

He did
Skol Wed 17:04

And he revealed it before Singha did.
Singha Wed 17:04

but it was kinda obvious i would visit guiness
Chang Wed 17:04

Okay, hmm
Wed 17:04

I missed that
Singha Wed 17:05

Yeah chang it's at the beginning of the day
Chang Wed 17:05

Man, that's ages away, I could have slept since then
Singha Wed 17:05

Yeah
Wed 17:05

Well I need to go and work a little bit. I will be back before nightfall
Erdinger Wed 17:05

I'm forming a tinfoil theory here.
Singha Wed 17:05

If anyone wants me to move my vote tell me now
Erdinger Wed 17:06

Every single person who's come over and complained about the amount of discussion here is a wolf. :p
Carlton Wed 17:06

Where is it Singha?
Chang Wed 17:07

Erdinger, are you differentiating discussion and spam, in that categorisation?
Erdinger Wed 17:08

I said discussion. You can't get clearer than that. :p
Chang Wed 17:09

Fine, maybe I'll rephrase: where do you draw the line between discussion and spam?
Carling Wed 17:09

There has been 1647 messages today thus far.
Erdinger Wed 17:09

Chang, what you're doing, to me, feels like spam right now.
Wed 17:09

Discussion which doesn't bring the game forward.
Wed 17:10

Discussion that's more appropriate for Discord.
Wed 17:10

There.
Chang Wed 17:10

Erdinger, I disagree; if you're going to start categorising people based on behaviour, you need to be able to qualify what does and doesn't count for it
Singha Wed 17:10

My vote is on Harbin
Miller Wed 17:10

funny how this discussion belongs to discord
Erdinger Wed 17:10

Certainly your question on discussion doesn't count for nuts.
Singha Wed 17:10

and it is balanced right now so I am not changing yet
Erdinger Wed 17:11

Exactly Miller. Thank you.
Wed 17:11

This discussion is better suited for Discord. Change the topic or go to Discord.
Carling Wed 17:11

Miller, I would still like to hear your answer. It provides in-game insight.
Chang Wed 17:12

I disagree, but I'll comply; what should we do about Carlton's refusal to claim?
Erdinger Wed 17:12

His call.
Wed 17:12

I don't see a reason to pressure right now anyways.
Wed 17:12

Sus was built because someone wanted his claim, and he didn't comply.
Chang Wed 17:13

So why did people ask him for a role claim to begin with?
Erdinger Wed 17:13

Ask Mythos. I had it in mind to have him claim as well, and I assume Mythos was getting scum reads from Carlton.
Wed 17:14

Since I was, as well.
Wed 17:14

Not enough to warrant a claim though.
Wed 17:14

I had my hand in having Carling claim.
Wed 17:14

At the time.
Chang Wed 17:16

I just think it's odd someone would ask for a claim (knowing it could out a power role) and then settle for the refusal?
Erdinger Wed 17:16

Because I wasnot the one to initiate it.
Wed 17:16

I voiced my support for it.
Chang Wed 17:17

The only explanation I've come up with so far is that the original asker (Mythos?) didn't want to push because they thought that it would ultimately make them look more suspicious?
Erdinger Wed 17:17

As if they had to do anything further to rouse sus on them.
Wed 17:18

At this point he's gotten so negative down my list I can only grade him as "vanilla". He's got a death wish on him or something.
Chang Wed 17:18

But pushing for a claim that might ultimately be confirmed could just add to that?
Erdinger Wed 17:19

Add to what? The sus on him?
Miller Wed 17:20

Has Carling provided any intel?
Erdinger Wed 17:20

N1 - No one visited Stella
Wed 17:20

That's it.
Wed 17:21

Material of inference: No BH visited Stella, means that the pack sniffed a vanilla. Hence the random kill on Stella N2.
Wed 17:22

Also, indication of multiple vanilla in the game, potentially a bunch of variants as claimed by Peroni (Insom) and Bud (SW).
Miller Wed 17:22

or he's löying
Bintang Wed 17:22

i have a little time while i eat before i head into the test lab; trying to catch up
Erdinger Wed 17:23

Who? Carling, Peroni or Bud?
Chang Wed 17:24

Erdinger, or the wolves sniffed Guinness and didn't risk killing him because he came out
Wed 17:25

I'm not sure if that makes any difference in the long run, but I don't think we can assume that BH only checked a vanilla
Erdinger Wed 17:25

More likely that a vanilla got checked.
Wed 17:25

Unless you're factoring that Peroni might be a wolf.
Wed 17:25

Again, that's brazen play for a wolf. "Do wolves give a shit?"
Wed 17:27

Moreover, EVEN IF Peroni gave a shit as a wolf, why give up at the last minute and make himself look even more sus?
Wed 17:27

All that drama for a seer check? Seems overkill innit?
Chang Wed 17:27

I don't think Peroni is a wolf, tbh
Wed 17:27

Insomniac claim doesn't seem viable
Erdinger Wed 17:28

Then you can't possibly think that Guinness got sniffed out. That's too much coincidence.
Wed 17:28

TOO MUCH. Get off the crackpot.
Wed 17:28

:p
Wed 17:29

Chang Wed 17:27 I don't think Peroni is a wolf, tbh Wed 17:27 Insomniac claim doesn't seem viable <--- Are you contradicting yourself within 2 lines?
Wed 17:29

What do you mean by "doesn't seem viable"?
Bintang Wed 17:34

off topic but my timing today is fucked anyway due travel. My thoughts on today: 3 people were inactive yesterday despite a shit ton of activity and no one has said a word about them today. so that's weird. I typically see evils either go after power roles or people who are driving the conversations, especially early in the game. Neither of those happened last night.
Wed 17:35

so It feel to me that some wolves are being very active in steering the convo
Wed 17:35

today.
Erdinger Wed 17:35

Names of these people in your list of active wolves.
Bintang Wed 17:35

i'm open to other opinions; but this is my take on today
Erdinger Wed 17:35

Please share.
Bintang Wed 17:36

Tuborg, I'm 50/50 on Mahou. any of the inactives from last night. one of the stalkers (take your pick)
Wed 17:36

all this is gut; no evidence
Wed 17:37

trying to make up for being unavailable for most of the day
Erdinger Wed 17:37

A'ight.
Bintang Wed 17:37

Guiness i could go either way on
Wed 17:38

I know BH's don't claim seer too much but if caught unprepared its a default response
Wed 17:38

or could be lit
Wed 17:38

its a coin flip for me
Erdinger Wed 17:38

Flip one then.
Wed 17:38

:p
Bintang Wed 17:38

the DW and SS(s) are the bigger theats
Wed 17:39

so i'm okay with sitting on Guiness for now
Wed 17:39

but that is a paper argument
Erdinger Wed 17:40

Hmm, thanks.
Bintang Wed 17:40

np
Erdinger Wed 17:42

Thoughts on current claims so far apart from Guinness?
Bintang Wed 17:42

i don't have my notes in front me; can you TL;DR for me?
Wed 17:42

(sorry)
Wed 17:43

a lot of shit posting makes distilling the useful info taxing
Wed 17:44

Peroni feels lit
Wed 17:45

the troll is too half-assed to be a complex wolf play
Erdinger Wed 17:47

Beck (stalker claim) saw Singha visit Guinnes, who saw Guinness visit me (result: I was seen as village). I visited no one yesterday due to internet issues and not being online until after day chat started, but I claimed to have seen Carling visit Stella on N1. Carling claimed Harlot and saw no one visit Stella.
Bintang Wed 17:49

what about Bud?
Wed 17:49

claimed Vanilla but was seen visiting?
Wed 17:49

did i read that correctly?
Chang Wed 17:49

Erdinger, I mean it doesn't seem viable for a wolf to fake-claim insomniac
Wed 17:49

there are too many variables that are outside of your control
Miller Wed 17:49

Singha who should I vote?
Bintang Wed 17:50

Sup MIller
Erdinger Wed 17:50

Bintang, I believe that is referring to Budweisser beeing seen visiting yes?
Bintang Wed 17:50

it is
Erdinger Wed 17:51

Right, he was seen visiting Peroni. At first it was assumed by me that he might have been a BH (I read him as wolfy earlier in the day, go read it when you can).
Bintang Wed 17:51

in terms of detection: DW=Court=SW
Erdinger Wed 17:51

Then it was dropped because it seemed too ridiculous.
Bintang Wed 17:52

coincidentally my vote is already on Bud
Beck Wed 17:52

dw is not possible as he would have rb the insomiac claim.
Erdinger Wed 17:52

Chang Wed 17:49 Erdinger, I mean it doesn't seem viable for a wolf to fake-claim insomniac Wed 17:49 there are too many variables that are outside of your control <---- That is why I don't believe that Guinness was sniffed.
Bintang Wed 17:52

who changed topics?
Chang Wed 17:52

Erdinger, I don't specifically think that Guinness was sniffed out; my general point has always been that the fake-seer claim is no different than a real-seer claim - the chances of someone with no information on a player "randomly" targetting the seer for a fake claim is low, so it's *more likely* (imho) that the second seer claim was a reactionary counterclaim than a true seer claim
Erdinger Wed 17:53

Problem is, you're talking about standard seer and wolf claim battles. This wasn't one mister.
Chang Wed 17:53

But it could have been
Erdinger Wed 17:53

Get that algorithm out. It doesn't apply here.
Bintang Wed 17:53

I like your logic Chang but how many times has teh seer been murdered n1 out of blind misfortune?
Chang Wed 17:54

Why doesn't it?
Erdinger Wed 17:54

Because the first person to claim ADMITTED to a fake claim.
Chang Wed 17:54

so?
Erdinger Wed 17:54

Which leaves the second claim as a variable of a genuine claim.
Chang Wed 17:54

No...
Beck Wed 17:54

There hasnt been any other seer cc.
Erdinger Wed 17:54

Explain how it doesn't.
Chang Wed 17:54

The second claim was still a counter claim, it was still a second claim
Erdinger Wed 17:55

Not a single seer CC afterwards. What are you trying to accomplish.
Chang Wed 17:55

Just because the first claim was fake, doesn't change the fact that it came before the second claim
Erdinger Wed 17:55

And?
Chang Wed 17:55

So the chances of someone with no information on a player "randomly" targetting the seer for a fake claim is low, so it's *more likely* (imho) that the second seer claim was a reactionary counterclaim than a true seer claim
Erdinger Wed 17:56

Okay, so where is the real seer then?
Bintang Wed 17:56

hiding
Erdinger Wed 17:56

Motivation?
Bintang Wed 17:56

or ded
Chang Wed 17:56

Hiding / Dead / AFK / maybe we don't have a seer
Erdinger Wed 17:57

Right, and so we should create a cornerstone on absolutely nothing because someone has got crackpot theories boiling up.
Chang Wed 17:57

No, I think we should keep our minds open
Erdinger Wed 17:57

Seem more like a plan for you to create more doubt in a circle of trust that Carling and I were forming.
Chang Wed 17:57

And not use terms like "100%"
Erdinger Wed 17:58

Yes, because certainty is a wolf's downfall, innit?
Wed 17:58

:)
Chang Wed 17:58

You ever seen World War Z?
Erdinger Wed 17:58

No, horrible movie. 0/10.
Wed 17:58

Yes*
Chang Wed 17:58

Do you remember the bit set in Israel?
Erdinger Wed 17:59

Nope, I dispose of terrible memories ASAP.
Wed 17:59

:p
Chang Wed 17:59

Well, google "Tenth Man Principal"
Erdinger Wed 17:59

Not bothered.
Wed 18:00

https://media.giphy.com/media/YwRpPspXWbquI/giphy.gif
Bintang Wed 18:01

why not Bud?
Erdinger Wed 18:01

Let's see what Carling had shall we?
Beck Wed 18:01

Do you think a bh would check Peroni Bintang?
Bintang Wed 18:02

fair point
Wed 18:02

but who said Bud was BH?
Beck Wed 18:02

So you think insomiac claim was a lie?
Erdinger Wed 18:02

Carling Wed 13:04 In this case, I find it exceedingly unlikely that a BH would check Peroni *unless Guiness was a Wolf.*
Bintang Wed 18:03

not the way it rolled out
Wed 18:03

screwed up the claim
Wed 18:03

seems lit or REALLY clever
Erdinger Wed 18:03

I said there was a chance he could be, although I concur to this reasoning.
Beck Wed 18:03

Then Bud can only be bh or bl.
Bintang Wed 18:03

BL is interesting
Beck Wed 18:03

And I dont think bl is in any games with his bugs.
Erdinger Wed 18:04

I doubt there is a BL. Game would be more buggy otherwise.
Mythos Wed 18:04

Back, BL is buggy.
Bintang Wed 18:04

good to know
Erdinger Wed 18:04

So no, anyone suggesting a BL is instantly sus in my eyes (especially non-claimants).
Bintang Wed 18:05

So either Bud and Peroni are in cahoots or they are both lit
Wed 18:05

with a HEAVY lean on lit
Chang Wed 18:05

I was thinking the same about people suggesting Omega yesterday
Bintang Wed 18:05

i'm good with that
Moderator Wed 18:05

Bintang votes to lynch Tuborg
Bintang Wed 18:05

asvish
Mythos Wed 18:06

If N1 visit to stella was a harlot, it does beg the question : Why stella?
Erdinger Wed 18:06

Why?
Mythos Wed 18:06

Why not one of the stalkers , because at this point of time both the stalkers are looking at being lit in my eyes.
Erdinger Wed 18:06

Why does it beg a question?
Chang Wed 18:06

N1? No stalkers were out?
Bintang Wed 18:07

stella must have been some kind of useful; she got ded
Mythos Wed 18:07

Who got killed N2, stella right.
Erdinger Wed 18:07

Yes, and?
Carling Wed 18:07

I return to shit on Mythos for asking unnecessary questions.
Wed 18:07

STELLA WAS ACTIVE D1.
Beck Wed 18:07

Going for either stalker was a risk, so they choose to kill someone unrelated I'd say.
Carling Wed 18:07

THEREFORE. GUESS THE REST.
Mythos Wed 18:07

Why go for a random kill, instead of going for a stalker, who were about to confirm each other.
Bintang Wed 18:07

A baby Carl
Chang Wed 18:07

Wolves don't know what protection roles are in the game, so going for any outed roles would be a risk
Mythos Wed 18:08

I am not sussing you, can you calm down.
Carling Wed 18:08

NO.
Mythos Wed 18:08

hmm, can be.
Wed 18:08

Altho, they tend to go for very active/outed roles.
Chang Wed 18:08

Hey, Mythos, why do you let Carlton off with not claiming?
Erdinger Wed 18:08

https://media.giphy.com/media/YwRpPspXWbquI/giphy.gif
Bintang Wed 18:08

I said that above; active players who drive convos or outed power roles
Erdinger Wed 18:09

That's Carling and me btw.
Bintang Wed 18:09

bb is a few
Erdinger Wed 18:09

Besties for life.
Mythos Wed 18:09

Good for ya.
Erdinger Wed 18:09

You still suck.
Wed 18:09

:p
Mythos Wed 18:09

Carlton claimed harlot me thinks.
Erdinger Wed 18:09

Wrong.
Wed 18:09

That was Carling.
Wed 18:10

Carlton hasn't claimed yet.
Mythos Wed 18:10

damm these two names.Its hard to add to the convo btw Erdinger, if you be unnecessary aggo.
Erdinger Wed 18:11

:p
Mythos Wed 18:11

Anyways i was building erdinger circle of trust and i think unless wolves played pretty good, they may be lit.
Erdinger Wed 18:11

Gee, you were?
Wed 18:12

Well then, list out everyone in that circle.
Mythos Wed 18:12

Obviously the harlot second check will add more credence to the thing (if there was a visit there).
Erdinger Wed 18:13

Wed 18:12 Well then, list out everyone in that circle.
Mythos Wed 18:13

Here is what i have built :
Wed 18:13

1. carlton,erdinger,[guiness],[singha,beck],(peroni)
Wed 18:14

[] = more sure of being linked
Wed 18:14

()= less sure of being linked
Chang Wed 18:14

looks more like a line than a circle, but hmmm
Erdinger Wed 18:14

Yea, that's not the circle.
Wed 18:14

THE circle, mind you.
Wed 18:14

Ignore Chang, he's got nothing.
Mythos Wed 18:15

Well, the harlot second check helps it solidified, but yeah we can add it tommorow.
Wed 18:15

*solidifies.
Chang Wed 18:15

What was the second check again?
Mythos Wed 18:16

He did not give, since he can't harlot the same person twice.
Erdinger Wed 18:16

Beck, Singha, Guinness, Erdinger, Carling, Peroni, Bud. That's the exact circle.
Mythos Wed 18:16

That's your circle , mine is based on relationship, i have inferred.
Erdinger Wed 18:17

With whom? You?
Wed 18:18

[Beck, Singha, Guinness, {Erdinger], Carling}, (Peroni, Bud). That's the exact circle.
Mythos Wed 18:18

Nope, its based on the checks interaction / other game reads of mine.
Erdinger Wed 18:19

No legends, all links are seen equally right now.
Skol Wed 18:20

Nice circles and lines and all but anyone we should consider lynching? If yes let's discuss. If not I will just have my vote stay on Mythos and we see if we get more info tomorrow.
Carlton Wed 18:20

Am I in a circle or is it Carling?
Erdinger Wed 18:20

The difference between Ling and Ton.
Chang Wed 18:20

Carling
Mythos Wed 18:20

I am not arguing about your circle, i have given my interaction links.
Wed 18:20

I think Bud will be a good lynch, but not sure anymore.
Carlton Wed 18:21

Mythos am I in your circle?
Erdinger Wed 18:21

Your interactions are incomplete Mythos.
Mythos Wed 18:21

Definitely not.
Carlton Wed 18:21

So why did you list me?
Skol Wed 18:21

... guys we lynch anyone? yes or no... Carlton he listed u cuz he don't know difference between Carlton and Carling probably.
Mythos Wed 18:22

sorry, i meant to list carlin there.Got mixed up with the harlot.
Erdinger Wed 18:22

Skol, who are your top susses again?
Mythos Wed 18:23

It not my circle btw, its a possible team that i think involves erdinger/harlot based on their checks interaction.If the team exceeds 5, we may be sure these guys are lit.
Carlton Wed 18:23

I vote lynch. I'd favour Blue, Mythos or Carling. Still don't know what Harbin did wrong.
Skol Wed 18:24

I never talked about my top sus. I have been looking at who voted who and who. I trust everyone who claimed even Budweiser. If I had a strong sus I would lead the village right now.
Chang Wed 18:24

Would you like to quickly summarise your reasoning for each, Carlton?
Skol Wed 18:24

I am not a fan of Mythos voting 10 min before nightfall with little explanation on his vote yesterday on Guiness.
Mythos Wed 18:25

I think it was 4 and pretty much decided we are going with the seer claim.
Wed 18:25

But yeah, go on listing your suses.
Carlton Wed 18:26

Blue: fails to read. Misleads conversation. Contributed nothing helpful to the group, even in logic. What little time they spend here is wasted or worse, causes frustration/confusion/unnecessary lines of text.
Wed 18:28

Mythos: overly aggressive. Trying to guide the pack to focus on only a few. Shitposts. Pushes for lynch then balance then lynch with no reasoning.
Mythos Wed 18:29

I dislike the shitpost bit, seems you are trying to pick straws now.
Erdinger Wed 18:30

Let him continue.
Mythos Wed 18:30

cool
Erdinger Wed 18:30

Your reasoning for Carling, Carlton.
Mythos Wed 18:31

.....
Erdinger Wed 18:31

No pressure. Let him type.
Carlton Wed 18:32

Carling: Shitposting. Leading discussion and then laughing at people for taking his word seriously. Baiting responses to get people to go with their emotions and not dig for the logic. Most importantly claims one of the only roles that casts away all suspicion on him just as it's mounting up.
Erdinger Wed 18:33

Alright. Verdict: Carlton really has nothing much.
Carlton Wed 18:33

Sure
Erdinger Wed 18:34

Blue: Easy target, Mythos: Easy target since he has been going hard on the shit stirring, Carling: Easy target because people "might" support the lynch of someone annoying.
Wed 18:35

I didn't elaborate on Blue, but it doesn't seem like Blue is onto anything in the discussion. Trying to lynch someone like that feels more like a cheap shot.
Wed 18:35

Verdict: Carlton is full of shit.
Moderator Wed 18:35

Erdinger votes to lynch Carlton
Erdinger Wed 18:38

Off to bed. Go find a better lynch if needed. He'll probably say he's vanilla tomorrow and was trying to "scare" evils or whatever bullshit he has if he survives tomorrow.
Mythos Wed 18:38

I like the extra information on me, other than that, yeah mostly agreed, [harp,sol] will need to speak more for tomorrow.Off now, will try to check back.
Moderator Wed 18:51

Bintang votes to lynch Carlton
Bintang Wed 18:52

I am back
Peroni Wed 19:22

So we're balancing today?
Bintang Wed 19:24

it appears that way
Wed 19:24

nobody has any condemning info atm; its all accusations
Wed 19:26

I'm reluctant to shoot from the hip but there are others who have been trigger happy since you went AWOL yesterday
Tuborg Wed 19:27

Interesting, multiple people asking if we're balancing.
Wed 19:27

Anyone wishes to make a bold late move with votes?
Bintang Wed 19:28

Not without some logic behind it
Tuborg Wed 19:28

Is logic the same as an accusation based on role info? Or based on a hunch? What would you need?
Bintang Wed 19:29

CArlton was the last one high on the BS lst if i recall correctly
Wed 19:29

role info
Tuborg Wed 19:29

I'd say that anyone has had the opportunity to present role info earlier, so let's not assume that.
Wed 19:29

Carlton is high on your BS list?
Bintang Wed 19:29

not mine
Wed 19:30

Erd i think fingered him
Wed 19:30

its not too long ago
Chang Wed 19:30

Phrasing
Tuborg Wed 19:30

Yeah, I read that.
Wed 19:30

I think Carlton has valid points on Blue and on Carling, although I will trust Carling because of their claim for now.
Bintang Wed 19:32

I have no reason to doubt Carling
Singha Wed 19:32

Bintang
Wed 19:33

When are you ok with sharing who your team is?
Bintang Wed 19:33

after all the SS are dead
Singha Wed 19:33

That doesn't work. When we will know if all the SS are dead.
Bintang Wed 19:33

that's my point
Singha Wed 19:33

We are still waiting for the GD To show up.
Bintang Wed 19:33

the village has partial coverage from SS shifts
Singha Wed 19:34

Masons have codes.
Bintang Wed 19:34

why would i waste that to make you feel better and to make them vulnerable?
Singha Wed 19:34

We are ok with shifts and they would be crazy to go and shift masons.
Wed 19:34

That means you will never share who your team is?
Mythos Wed 19:34

Back, there is no GD at-least that is what my gut says.
Bintang Wed 19:34

I would rather trap one
Singha Wed 19:34

How do we know that the masons are lit?
Bintang Wed 19:34

if they disagree they can come forward
Wed 19:35

I am out of recruits and they know who they are
Wed 19:35

how do i know you're lit?
Wed 19:35

i have a seer check on me
Wed 19:35

but ppl yell 'he could be a DW"
Wed 19:35

which is valid for EVERYONE
Wed 19:36

so whats the point in this discussion?
Mythos Wed 19:36

hmm, a mason and a seer check for now is enough for me.Do we want to lynch anyone today?
Tuborg Wed 19:36

I think not everybody went in that direction, Bintang (with the DW stuff).
Mythos Wed 19:37

I was thinking Bud or carlton.
Tuborg Wed 19:37

But yeah, you have some village credit.
Bintang Wed 19:37

I gave my sus list already but we have nothing actionable
Wed 19:37

Bud was cleared logically
Wed 19:37

it was explained twice
Tuborg Wed 19:37

More than any of the other talking people here, so lead the way.
Mythos Wed 19:37

true, we are going on tonal inference.
Bintang Wed 19:38

Erd accused Carlton of being full of shit; it was the most pointed accusation of the day (imo)
Singha Wed 19:38

Bintang I get why you want to hide them but it doesn't work that way in this game. And no I am not a wolf who wants to know their names
Tuborg Wed 19:38

I disagree with that accusation, also it's not a nice tone.
Singha Wed 19:38

You guys will have your little night chat and you can talk it over
Erdinger Wed 19:39

Ugh, can't sleep for shit.
Mythos Wed 19:39

then we balance then.I checked the reasoning over bud being lit, i don't agree with it 100%.I would argue it over tommrowo.
Erdinger Wed 19:39

No good lynch, I see.
Wed 19:39

Lynch Carlton then.
Mythos Wed 19:39

No Bold lynch.
Wed 19:39

i am up for it.
Erdinger Wed 19:40

Cool.
Moderator Wed 19:40

Mythos votes to lynch Carlton
Tuborg Wed 19:40

What's the case on Carlton, exactly?
Singha Wed 19:40

Not wanting to claim.
Erdinger Wed 19:40

Being full of shit.
Mythos Wed 19:40

Let the chips fall where they may!!
Tuborg Wed 19:40

I have good feelings about them mostly ad hominem, not so much faction-wise.
Singha Wed 19:40

Erdinger that is not a case :D
Erdinger Wed 19:41

Tuborg, shove those ad-hom feelings up some beer tank.
Mythos Wed 19:41

gtg.
Tuborg Wed 19:41

You surely can stay for these exciting last 20 minutes, after you've helped put somebody on lynch lead?
Erdinger Wed 19:41

More importance to the faction-wise feelings.
Tuborg Wed 19:41

Also Erdinger, I don't understand why the rough talk here.
Moderator Wed 19:41

Singha votes to lynch Carlton
Singha Wed 19:41

I will help that
Tuborg Wed 19:41

What's so wolfy about Carlton?
Carlton Wed 19:42

I'm a militia and still have my shot
Singha Wed 19:42

so he doesnt feel bad
Carlton Wed 19:42

Happy?
Singha Wed 19:42

-.-
Wed 19:42

not happy that we made you claim but glad you did.
Erdinger Wed 19:42

And I'm supposed to believe a militia claim now.
Singha Wed 19:42

You are
Erdinger Wed 19:42

Cool.
Carlton Wed 19:42

Yep
Singha Wed 19:42

untill proven guilty
Tuborg Wed 19:42

Not a good position to be in, with the similarity to Alpha and all.
Carling Wed 19:42

WORST CLAIM 2018?
Singha Wed 19:42

hahahah
Carlton Wed 19:42

Please move the votes
Erdinger Wed 19:42

Worst claim of the decade.
Singha Wed 19:43

Carling you really want people to hate you
Tuborg Wed 19:43

Them lurkers suddenly appearing out of the shadows!
Singha Wed 19:43

Everybody is lurking
Carling Wed 19:43

Of course! If everyone hates me, I can single out the people trying to win my trust.
Singha Wed 19:43

I feel like Lasko is here to lurking around
Wed 19:43

if you want a nice lynch
Wed 19:43

lynch him
Carling Wed 19:43

Erdinger being the obvious one, but he's fine.
Mythos Wed 19:43

back again.
Singha Wed 19:43

If he is not a wolf I will eat my shorts
Wed 19:43

But he is probably recruited by the mason leader -.-
Wed 19:44

Just my luck that wolf sounding villager.
Erdinger Wed 19:44

You might have to.
Tuborg Wed 19:44

Carling, I disagree with your playstyle and mentality in this regard (once again).
Singha Wed 19:44

I might
Carlton Wed 19:44

Well if I die you at least have my shot order
Moderator Wed 19:44

Singha votes to lynch Lasko
Carlton Wed 19:44

Good luck village
Singha Wed 19:44

Move your votes
Wed 19:44

and give him a chance
Wed 19:45

if he is wolf we will know
Moderator Wed 19:45

Carlton votes to lynch Mythos
Moderator Wed 19:45

Singha votes to lynch Mythos
Singha Wed 19:45

Balancing
Erdinger Wed 19:45

Hmm.
Mythos Wed 19:45

cool
Tuborg Wed 19:45

Interesting.... backing down now?
Singha Wed 19:45

I am backing down because I don't want to miss lynch
Wed 19:45

and i am not scared of a militia claim
Wed 19:45

its not an easy claim
Tuborg Wed 19:45

I feel less bad now that we've seen evidence of more people around here. Not so silent anymore after all.
Mythos Wed 19:45

we had nothing substantial for him, tbh.
Tuborg Wed 19:46

Mythos, what do you mean?
Miller Wed 19:46

Yo singha
Singha Wed 19:46

We have more things on you Mythos.
Tuborg Wed 19:46

Oh so this is satisfactory now?
Singha Wed 19:46

Yo Miller.
Mythos Wed 19:46

I mean the lynch was on tonal inference.
Tuborg Wed 19:46

Pressure in order to get the claim out?
Miller Wed 19:46

what's speaking for lynching mythos?
Mythos Wed 19:46

Anyway, i am going to shoot tonight.
Wed 19:46

That's a CC.
Wed 19:46

and a shot.
Singha Wed 19:46

hahahaha
Wed 19:46

what
Erdinger Wed 19:47

A CC you say.
Tuborg Wed 19:47

How about
Wed 19:47

BOTH MILITIAS SHOOT EACH OTHER
Mythos Wed 19:47

not exactly a CC
Carlton Wed 19:47

You can have multiple militia...
Erdinger Wed 19:47

How do I delete a game?
Mythos Wed 19:47

Tuborg, i might shoot you for that suggestion.
Erdinger Wed 19:47

shot urself cck
Wed 19:47

ololo
Miller Wed 19:48

Singha why Mythos?
Tuborg Wed 19:48

Alright, Militia claim seems close to Alpha, but does it fit the setup?
Erdinger Wed 19:48

Tuborg, are you serious?
Mythos Wed 19:48

Erginger, i have said it before, your abrupt rudeness in middle of game, makes playing an unpleasant experience.
Erdinger Wed 19:48

OF COURSE IT DOES
Carlton Wed 19:48

I'm planning to shoot Blue right now...
Tuborg Wed 19:48

Yes it does, I was just to continue that point
Erdinger Wed 19:48

It's Erdinger. I hold no ginger in me.
Wed 19:48

@Mythos
Wed 19:48

:p
Mythos Wed 19:49

Anyway,i will be shooting Lasko.
Wed 19:49

Any problems speak up.
Wed 19:49

Lasko say your prayers.
Wed 19:49

Suggestions are welcome.
Carlton Wed 19:49

ML speak up
Tuborg Wed 19:49

If Blue and/or Lasko are Masons, speak up. Otherwise it's alright.
Erdinger Wed 19:49

Bad shot. Harp is a better shot tbh.
Tuborg Wed 19:50

Which two would you shoot, Erdinger?
Mythos Wed 19:50

I agree, but its difficult to kill just lurkers.
Miller Wed 19:50

Who would Mythos shoot?
Erdinger Wed 19:50

It isn't.
Mythos Wed 19:50

but yeah harp...not bad.
Miller Wed 19:50

Carlton
Wed 19:50

you here?
Erdinger Wed 19:50

Tuborg, you might want to mention your own shots before asking me.
Wed 19:50

:p
Mythos Wed 19:51

Harp, if lurking say your role or your prayers.
Miller Wed 19:51

Cartlton, why am I on top of your sus list?
Erdinger Wed 19:51

You're on the bottom of his list Miller.
Miller Wed 19:51

eh what?
Erdinger Wed 19:51

"Least to most"
Miller Wed 19:51

are you Carlton?
Erdinger Wed 19:51

"his list"
Miller Wed 19:51

meh
Mythos Wed 19:51

Its in ascending order.
Miller Wed 19:52

Can we lynch Carling?
Erdinger Wed 19:52

No.
Wed 19:52

:p
Miller Wed 19:52

You'd get my vote for that
Mythos Wed 19:52

Why?
Miller Wed 19:52

he's a dick
Erdinger Wed 19:52

Fuck off sonnie. :p
Peroni Wed 19:52

Guys, just relax. Things don't need to start happening all of a sudden right at the end of the day
Miller Wed 19:53

So we netflix and chill?
Erdinger Wed 19:53

NO, T NEEDS TO BE BRUTALITY.
Wed 19:53

T
Miller Wed 19:53

well with the amount of people vs wolves we can keep balancing for some more days
Tuborg Wed 19:54

@Erdinger: I'd probably shoot Blue, and maybe Skol. I would reread Skol and check him, don't recall them too well.
Miller Wed 19:54

Do I see it right that both of those lynch candidates are based on suspicion/gut feeling?
Carling Wed 19:54

I am still amused, greatly, by Miller's intense hatred towards me.
Bintang Wed 19:54

that is really funny
Erdinger Wed 19:54

Tuborg, again. Cheap shot. Mentioned before.
Mythos Wed 19:54

Peroni : Guys i was faking to get reactions, i am a stalker,
Miller Wed 19:55

lol
Peroni Wed 19:55

XD
Carling Wed 19:55

ecks dee
Miller Wed 19:55

So who you two gonna shoot?
Erdinger Wed 19:55

Peroni: guise im ackchually messia
Peroni Wed 19:55

jk I'm actually demonlord!
Miller Wed 19:55

WHO YOU GONNA SHOOT?
Erdinger Wed 19:55

EASY WITH THE CAPS.
Mythos Wed 19:55

mostly on harp, maybe sol, skol, blue
Carling Wed 19:56

I'd go back and analyse shadiness from a retrospective view, then shoot accordingly if I felt someone was shady enough to warrant it.
Erdinger Wed 19:56

OH MAI GOD NOW I'M USING CAPS.
Bintang Wed 19:56

MY SHIFT KEY IS STUCK
Erdinger Wed 19:56

FUUUUUUUCK.
Mythos Wed 19:57

Good suggestion Carlin, i can wait also, if i don;t find someone shady enough.
Miller Wed 19:57

very generic
Wed 19:57

"Shoot he best target based on semi-factual evidence"
Carling Wed 19:57

Miller, I'd shoot you for shits and giggles.
Miller Wed 19:57

..!..
Bintang Wed 19:57

lol
Carling Wed 19:57

It would be incredibly funny.
Mythos Wed 19:57

"shiz and gagz"
Miller Wed 19:58

yeah I'd laugh too
Wed 19:58

reasons to not read your crap
Erdinger Wed 19:58

Weeeee.
Carling Wed 19:58

Oh boy, here we go.
Miller Wed 19:58

after you called someone assface, no need to get offended
Mythos Wed 19:58

incoming snipe......
Erdinger Wed 19:58

ext-278 - Carling vs. Miller.
Mythos Wed 19:59

Carlton, who is your shot?
Moderator Wed 19:59

The shadows grow long...
Carling Wed 19:59

assface
Moderator Thu 08:00

Dew glistens in fledgling rays of light...
Killed Thu 08:00

Harp was killed during the night
Killed Thu 08:00

Miller was killed during the night

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