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Inara Thu 08:01

Hello
JubalEarly Thu 08:01

I'm early bird today! Becoz no work muahahah! Guess what baby! Jayne is undetermined!
Inara Thu 08:02

Shifted? Into ... stitch?
JubalEarly Thu 08:02

I decided to go with digging unresolved conflict, looks like I'm on my own now.. Where's my villagers at?! :-s
Inara Thu 08:02

Both was killed, so they are not vm
JubalEarly Thu 08:02

Ahh yeah
Thu 08:02

Militias
Inara Thu 08:02

What do you think stitch and nandi are, Jubal?
JubalEarly Thu 08:03

But where e heck is the freaking coven?!
Inara Thu 08:03

I think wolves killed wash, lenore recruited
JubalEarly Thu 08:03

Lenore?
Inara Thu 08:03

Im thinking the same
JubalEarly Thu 08:03

LOLOL
Inara Thu 08:03

Gy is full of villagers
JubalEarly Thu 08:03

Why Lenore?
Inara Thu 08:03

That means evils are in living pp
Patience Thu 08:03

Ok so... Jayne really was SS
JubalEarly Thu 08:03

You think Lenore still alive?
Thu 08:04

Where the hell is she!
Thu 08:04

Yeah SS
Inara Thu 08:04

Lenore was vm, reborned in river, river was lynched, so now she would be reborned into sb else
Thu 08:04

That she recruited earlier
Patience Thu 08:04

I will wait for others reveal first ^^
JubalEarly Thu 08:05

I need to rid the thought of Lenore recruited only once
Thu 08:05

sheeesh
Thu 08:05

That vampy
Thu 08:06

Okay, my tea is calling for me, see you guys laytah. Not too late, just half hr top.
Inara Thu 08:06

Ok
Patience Thu 08:10

No revive, so Lawrence is in red zone now
Mingo Thu 08:18

*sigh* fml
JubalEarly Thu 08:18

Question is, why do we still lynch the VM knowing that she keeps on recruiting and reborn? waiii people wai? Get the fams then hiakdush her to the GY. And now we are also dealing with the fraking wolves and covens. Coven activities seems zero except the appearance of puppet. Are we dealing with only wolves and vampy or really all 3 factions?
Mingo Thu 08:19

I think everyone should sing a song today about the three dead people
Thu 08:19

Specifically making sure to include their names in the song
JubalEarly Thu 08:20

I cant sing, it will snow heavily the moment I start singing
Mingo Thu 08:20

Jubal, because she has a limited number of recruits
Thu 08:20

So eventually she'll run out and will be dead for good
Moderator Thu 08:20

Mingo votes to lynch Fanty
JubalEarly Thu 08:20

My singing spirit animal is bullfrog
Thu 08:21

That Fanty need to be strip of his Fanta sponsorship
Mingo Thu 08:21

Can we lynch Fanty?
Thu 08:25

Inara, who did you kill?
Badger Thu 08:28

Yo yo yo
Thu 08:28

Heres johnny
Moderator Thu 08:28

Badger votes to lynch Fanty
Badger Thu 08:28

Asv
Thu 08:29

Tracey visited wash two nights ago
JubalEarly Thu 08:30

Eh badger
Thu 08:30

You stay
Thu 08:30

List all your checks now
Thu 08:30

2 nights ago info and you telling us now
Thu 08:31

Either you read or you dont
Thu 08:31

since the past days inc yest
Thu 08:31

ASV at this day?!
Thu 08:31

Pffft
Moderator Thu 08:32

JubalEarly votes to lynch Badger
JubalEarly Thu 08:32

Angrybird mode
Moderator Thu 08:42

Inara votes to lynch Badger
Inara Thu 08:43

So, mingo said river visited mr.u and saw mr. U visited operater
Thu 08:44

They both died that night?
Thu 08:44

Jubal did you check mr. U?
Thu 08:44

And badger said lenore visited mr. U
JubalEarly Thu 08:45

Narp, didnt get a chance, I miss that night. I admit it sucks. Am annoyed with my miss night
Inara Thu 08:45

Now the fact is lenore really visited mr. U (to kill him)
Thu 08:45

The only explaination here is mingo lied
Thu 08:46

But his info is... i dont know. True
Thu 08:46

So...??? Anyone can explain plsss?
Thu 08:49

N1 1 kill = wolves + vam recruited. N2 N3 2 kills.
Thu 08:49

N4 no kill = wolves hit protection? + vam recruited
Thu 08:49

Who look sus from D5?
Thu 08:50

N5 jayne shifted + saffron ML failed = wolves + ML. Vamp recruited again?
Thu 08:51

Who look sus from D6?
Thu 08:52

N6 1 kill = wolves or vamp
Thu 08:53

So far vamp has 4 chances of recruitment= n1, n4, n5, n6
Thu 08:54

I think Nandi is a wolf, wolf failed to kill n4 recruitment (river i think)
Thu 08:54

Thats why she showed up to point river out
Thu 08:55

But why not let the ss do??
Thu 08:55

Could be an alchemist failed to purge too. But wolves sounds better
Thu 08:55

Nandi could be a DW i think
Thu 09:01

Oh. But river must be the 1st fam. I would say she is her n1
Thu 09:02

Wolves have BH to point her out
Thu 09:05

And Mr. U is wolf, killed Operator, and Lenore killed Mr. U
Thu 09:06

That means river was recruited in N4, thats VM's first recruitment
Thu 09:07

But patience said that lenore didnt visit in n4.
Thu 09:07

Kill me pls, its too brain hack
Patience Thu 09:07

Inara, n4 lenore did nothing, not recruited
Inara Thu 09:08

Recruiting is a visit?
JubalEarly Thu 09:08

n1 is one kill, It cld be n1 first recruitment not n4
Thu 09:08

Yeah seen as visit
Inara Thu 09:08

If so when do you think she recruited river?
JubalEarly Thu 09:08

n1?
Inara Thu 09:09

So Wolves has BH and send nandi to point her out?
Thu 09:09

Then why river and lenore both visited mr. U?
Thu 09:09

Or mingo lied??
JubalEarly Thu 09:10

Nandi gets River as Fam. Well, that's the qs unasnwered since days on why both Fam and VM visited MrU
Thu 09:10

Truly the world revolves around the Universe
Inara Thu 09:10

Jayne shifted into mingo in n5??
Patience Thu 09:11

Badger, state your check pls
Inara Thu 09:12

You should say it to, patience
JubalEarly Thu 09:13

Today lynch list is looking good
Inara Thu 09:14

If mingo lied, stitch might be lit. But with his reaction yesterday, i dont think he is
Thu 09:14

Different side i think
Thu 09:14

Recruitments could be in n1, n5 and n6
Thu 09:15

Drcaron is really juicy to be recruited I think
JubalEarly Thu 09:17

I dislike the fact that we are ignoring Fanty's asv and dismiss it as puppet, Seriously, where are all the covens if puppet sighted only once? All those squabbling and focusing only one person each day and overlooking the rest like Lawrence etc seriously need to be stop.
Patience Thu 09:17

I want to hear someone first before stating my check ^^
Thu 09:18

We're not ignoring them
Thu 09:18

We've been having some better targets to lynch for a few days
JubalEarly Thu 09:21

Also I was reading back, is it me reading wrongly or Badger said he did not get a report after following Operative so Patience was the first one whostated Operative visit Inara.
Thu 09:21

His no report n1
Patience Thu 09:21

I'm waiting to hear fanty's asv right now xD
JubalEarly Thu 09:21

And LOL our ass off
Thu 09:21

sheesh
Thu 09:21

that guy
Patience Thu 09:22

No, badger stated that n1 result first
Thu 09:22

I was surprised that his result was the same to me
JubalEarly Thu 09:25

*fliptable* I need to do something else instead of getting muddle headed
Thu 09:25

I shld cut down on my weed
Patience Thu 09:29

Currently I'm waiting for Tracey, Lawrence, and Caron
Thu 09:30

Hello Lenore, come and say hi to me
Badger Thu 10:24

I followed Lawrence
Thu 10:25

Lawrence visited Dr. C
Thu 10:26

N1 operative Inara.
Thu 10:26

N2 bester. Nobody.
Thu 10:26

N3 Lenore.. mr U
Thu 10:27

N4 Inara . Nobody.
Thu 10:27

N5 Tracey>Wash
Thu 10:27

N6 Lawrence >Dr
JubalEarly Thu 10:28

n6?
Thu 10:28

sorry type slowly
Badger Thu 10:28

:)
Thu 10:28

Cards on the table.
Thu 10:29

Lawrence could be a good role. Prot role. But wasnt helpful
Thu 10:29

So i called him out
Thu 10:29

No idea what he is
Thu 10:30

Mingo and tracey are ok by me.
Thu 10:30

Fanty and monty should be lynched
Thu 10:30

Dr C ok. But may have been taken over.
Thu 10:30

Hard to fakr though
Thu 10:31

Lawrence ???
Thu 10:31

Inara is likely a wolf or witch. No visits but can eventually - hence militia
Thu 10:31

Patience hopefully ok
Thu 10:31

Juba ok
Thu 10:32

I havent really followed much though
JubalEarly Thu 10:45

Someone stated Tracey as Prot yest
Thu 10:45

How would you know if Tracey is okay? I'm not even sure if he is okay
Thu 10:49

I'm waiting for Patience's revelation. Hopefully, Tracet Lawrence and Dr C get on quickly to state their results
Badger Thu 10:53

All i have for tracey is he hinted at a reveal not being good for Village... Possible proc. Then i followed him N5 and saw him visit wash
Thu 10:53

*Walsh
Thu 10:53

- a good target for protection
Thu 10:54

What has monty done..... I havent seen shhh
Thu 10:54

Fanty or mingo or monto would br good for he ss.. or law
Thu 10:58

So quiet without Lenoriver
Thu 10:58

I miss her
Thu 10:58

Whoa whao.
Thu 10:59

@Inara and @Jubal
Thu 10:59

Dont vote me. You guys are jerks.
Thu 10:59

I clearly wasnt really ASV . Just taking he piss out of Fanty who had bern doing it for days
Thu 10:59

Inara and Juba are the same team.
Thu 11:00

V or W
JubalEarly Thu 11:09

Pffft, It was angry vote please. Same team my a**
Thu 11:09

I'll move later
Badger Thu 11:10

Move it now
Thu 11:10

Are you and inara not bith V?
Thu 11:11

I have given all my factual opposition
Thu 11:12

By yku not moving now you either are supporting a lurky fantapants
Thu 11:12

Or teaming with inara
Thu 11:12

Both of which are abti v
Thu 11:12

Anti v
Thu 11:12

I want answers.
Thu 11:12

The village desrves answers.
Thu 11:12

WE will not stand for this!
Inara Thu 11:12

=)) if i am evil, who do you think shoot last night???
Badger Thu 11:13

Who did you shoot Inara
Inara Thu 11:13

I will wait until monty say it 1st
Badger Thu 11:13

And will you please justify your vote or move off me
Thu 11:13

;)
Inara Thu 11:13

I believe the village believe me more than him
Thu 11:14

And lawrance hinted to be a militia. He said he could kill sb by his-self
Badger Thu 11:14

I think you shot Nandi. You wizened up to her ways
Inara Thu 11:14

Isnt it too easy to guess?
Badger Thu 11:14

Ok fair.
Inara Thu 11:14

Yeb i followed the plan
Badger Thu 11:14

Why id yiur vote on me
Inara Thu 11:14

I dont want two militias shoot the same one
Badger Thu 11:14

Is your vote**
Inara Thu 11:14

Because either mingo or you must be lying
Moderator Thu 11:14

Inara votes to lynch Mingo
Badger Thu 11:15

About what?
Inara Thu 11:15

But to be compared, lenore visit mr u makes more sense than river
Thu 11:15

In n4
Thu 11:16

Mingo said river saw mr. U vsited operater
Thu 11:16

You said lenore visited him
Thu 11:16

River confirmed to visit mr. U too
Thu 11:17

So if all telling true, a vm and fam both visited mr. U
Badger Thu 11:17

Why not?
Inara Thu 11:17

Mr. U died because of vm, i think. SO badger makes more sense than mingo
Badger Thu 11:17

Its nor impossible
Thu 11:17

Its odd ill admit
Inara Thu 11:17

Why vamps do so?
Badger Thu 11:18

I found mingo a bit weird that day. But there is no reason why not
Tracey Thu 11:18

Hey all
Badger Thu 11:18

Its wierd. But not a flaw in the logic
Thu 11:18

All checks line up
Inara Thu 11:18

Jayne shifted in n5, lenore didnt visit in n4
Badger Thu 11:19

Just kind of pointless for VM team.
Inara Thu 11:19

If patience is lit, n5 is vamp's 2nd recruitment after river
Badger Thu 11:19

But not everyone acts rationally
Tracey Thu 11:19

Didnt want to reveal cz dont wanna be a target but yes i am prot.
JubalEarly Thu 11:20

Aye Badger, you took your time to answer to our village calls so if you are innocent, why do you feel so threatened by a vote?
Inara Thu 11:20

I think you are too , tracey
Moderator Thu 11:20

Tracey votes to lynch Fanty
Tracey Thu 11:21

Voting fanty cz sick of the asvs
Thu 11:21

And until a clear enemy is revealed hes a good target
Patience Thu 11:21

phew, I'm back
Inara Thu 11:21

If we are lucky, stitch could be recruited in n5
Patience Thu 11:21

guys, about Fanty, he often "asv" at around 9:00-9:10
Thu 11:22

but today he hasn't shown up
Thu 11:22

do you think he's a puppet that can't talk after his master is dead?
Inara Thu 11:22

Or jayne shifted into him in n5. Either way we killed him
JubalEarly Thu 11:22

Pfft you guys being so active only today?! I want drama, so who shld I pressure on.
Thu 11:22

Who is the PM?
Moderator Thu 11:22

JubalEarly votes to lynch Mingo
JubalEarly Thu 11:22

Fanty banty
Moderator Thu 11:22

JubalEarly votes to lynch Fanty
Patience Thu 11:22

guys, I think we should pressure Lawrence
JubalEarly Thu 11:23

Yeah that is a good obs on Fanty asv
Patience Thu 11:23

he refused to claim properly, and we inferred Reviver, but no revive last night
Moderator Thu 11:23

Patience votes to lynch Lawrence
Patience Thu 11:23

I want Lawrence's claim badly
Moderator Thu 11:23

JubalEarly votes to lynch Lawrence
Patience Thu 11:23

i think we should pressure, pls help
Inara Thu 11:23

I dont really trust patience. BUt yes agree with pushing lawrence
Moderator Thu 11:23

Inara votes to lynch Lawrence
Patience Thu 11:24

dont' trust me? reason?
JubalEarly Thu 11:24

You know, I was this closed to checking Saffron
Inara Thu 11:24

But pls remember we still have conflict with mingo's check
JubalEarly Thu 11:24

close*
Inara Thu 11:24

Keep it in mind pls
JubalEarly Thu 11:24

But I need to resolve conflict
Inara Thu 11:25

Patience, you repeated Badger check in n1, the rest of your check didnt visit
Patience Thu 11:26

I have been recruited to mason, don't forget
Thu 11:27

unless I'm shifted to, or recruited and reborn (and now probably not me anymore, which you could easily notice), I think I'm pretty lit
Moderator Thu 11:28

Badger votes to lynch Lawrence
Tracey Thu 11:28

What did mingo claim?
Inara Thu 11:29

Beholder
Patience Thu 11:29

i can say my last night result now but I'm not sure if Caron is still ok so I'm hesitate between saying it and let Caron state her result first
Badger Thu 11:29

Which check cinflicted with Patience
JubalEarly Thu 11:29

Let everybody reveal
Inara Thu 11:29

Anw if i were lenore and recruited lst night i would recruit sb seer checked
Patience Thu 11:29

harlot's result is hard to fake, unless everyone has spoken out their actions
Thu 11:30

@badger: obviously i don't have any conflict checks
Badger Thu 11:30

Has Dr been revealing before or after errbody
Patience Thu 11:30

so i want to let Caron reveal first
Badger Thu 11:30

Likewise patienxe
Thu 11:30

Dont think shes had much pressure to go first
JubalEarly Thu 11:30

I tell you what, given how active Tracey and Badger now which is rare, and since Badger has already stated his check, Tracey please state yours
Badger Thu 11:30

Dr today then
Patience Thu 11:31

umm tracey claimed prot, so i don't think it's good to state his target
JubalEarly Thu 11:31

Not last night
Badger Thu 11:31

Who did tracey protect N5? @tracey
Lawrence Thu 11:33

Hmmm, ok, I guess it can't be helped.
Thu 11:35

And Badger was right, I did visit drCaron last night. Sorry, I could've screwed the protective cycle by not claiming early.
Thu 11:36

Here's my list. N1-screwed N2-Saffron N3-DrCaron N4-screwed N5-Lenore (yah, ikr?) N6-DrCaron
Thu 11:36

I'm your huntsman btw.
Thu 11:37

__________________________________________
Thu 11:38

CLAIM: HUNTSMAN
Moderator Thu 11:39

Lawrence votes to lynch Fanty
Lawrence Thu 11:40

Ps: I never said I was a reviver. My sincerest apologies.
Thu 11:41

@patience
Inara Thu 11:43

Oh oh. Patience said that lawrence didnt visit in n5, not n4 =))
Patience Thu 11:43

@Lawrence I saw you didn't visit anyone, why didn't a HM do his job?
Lawrence Thu 11:43

*double-checking*
Inara Thu 11:44

Wow. Easy game =))
Thu 11:44

Patience which night again?
Patience Thu 11:44

I hate hearing ppl say they miss their night actions
Thu 11:45

oh wait
Inara Thu 11:45

Which night did you saw him not visited?
Patience Thu 11:45

Lawrence didn't visit N5
Lawrence Thu 11:45

Sorry. You're right lol it was N4.
Inara Thu 11:45

So..?
Lawrence Thu 11:45

N4-Lenore
Inara Thu 11:45

UR check again pls
Thu 11:46

I dont really buy it =))
Lawrence Thu 11:46

N5- rekt
Patience Thu 11:46

umm, HM missed exactly the night that he's stalked...
Inara Thu 11:46

You were active in both D4 and D5 you know
Patience Thu 11:47

and also mistakenly listed it...
Inara Thu 11:47

Yeb
Thu 11:47

Just simple like walsh =))
Tracey Thu 11:47

N5 i protected wash
Lawrence Thu 11:48

How could I prot. the dead tho'? Lenore was lynched D5, ryt?
Patience Thu 11:49

btw FYI, Nandi did not show up in mason chat last night, so we've at least had one good shot
Lawrence Thu 11:51

Uhh, guys, a little help here... Covens ganging up on me.
Thu 11:53

If I may speak... The best recruit for a Fam, is a reliable stalker... And the best cover for witch/wolf is a militia...
Patience Thu 11:54

you're talking nonsense about the Fam part. This is VM, not regular vampire, so why is stalker the best recruit for Fam?
Lawrence Thu 11:55

Inara could be witch, Patience could be Fam.
Patience Thu 11:55

lol funny
Thu 11:55

hey see
Thu 11:55

yesterday i was the one who pushed the lynch for lenore the vampire, and helped village to find out the evils
Lawrence Thu 11:56

I think you know why. Fam is like a stalker.
Patience Thu 11:56

while you hide your ass and refused to claim, not helpful for the village at all
Thu 11:56

and if i was fam, i'm lenore by now, so look at my typing
Lawrence Thu 11:56

I was trying to be "the sketchy guy"
Patience Thu 11:57

@lawrence BS, are you talking about VM or regular vampire?
Thu 11:57

stop talking bullshits
Thu 11:57

go learn the VM role
Thu 11:57

VM's fam could be fam stalker but could be fam GD and fam militia
Mingo Thu 11:58

Patience, don't be rude
Lawrence Thu 11:58

So a VM recruits a guy. He becomes Vampire Fam.
Patience Thu 11:58

my name is Patience but i'm not very patient, you know
Mingo Thu 11:58

Also Patience, other than Saffron, has anyone confirmed you?
Patience Thu 11:59

Lawrence, my N5 result that you didn't visit was true, right?
Thu 11:59

^ that
Lawrence Thu 12:00

Yes that is true.
Mingo Thu 12:00

Okay, that's a good start
Patience Thu 12:01

gotta go for a while, keep discussing pls
Mingo Thu 12:01

So now Badger says Lawrence visited someone last night
Thu 12:01

And that person isn't dead
Inara Thu 12:02

Did he say who?
Lawrence Thu 12:02

Mingo, pls remove that vote from me pls. I'd appreciate it.
Mingo Thu 12:02

Patience, can you list all your checks for me before you go?
Thu 12:02

DrC
Thu 12:02

Lawrence, what
Patience Thu 12:02

hmm, ok
Mingo Thu 12:02

I'm not voting for you
Lawrence Thu 12:03

Was supposed to keep my last night prot a secret, but uh, Badger spilled it. That was my fault tho'.
Patience Thu 12:03

N1 Operative -> Inara, N2 Inara -> none, N3 Saffron -> none, N4 Lenore -> none, N5 Lawrence -> none, N6 someone -> someone (not none)
Inara Thu 12:03

MIngo, who did u behold last night?
Patience Thu 12:03

I keep my last night result secret until Caron state her result
Thu 12:04

i think I'm lit enough to have the right to do that
Mingo Thu 12:04

Inara, guess
Lawrence Thu 12:04

Ok...
Mingo Thu 12:04

It should be kinda obvious
Patience Thu 12:04

Mingo can also keep the result until Caron says too
Thu 12:04

ah no, pls say it now
Inara Thu 12:04

Really? Was that caron?
Patience Thu 12:04

bc you're sus
Mingo Thu 12:04

No
Thu 12:05

mines much more RIP
Thu 12:05

if you know what I mean
Thu 12:06

Inara, let's play a game
Lawrence Thu 12:06

If you have no further questions, pls remove those pressure votes from me. Uhh, unless those are lynching/snipe set-up votes?
Mingo Thu 12:06

Complete the following sentence:
Lawrence Thu 12:06

@badger
Mingo Thu 12:06

_____ is a member of the coven.
Lawrence Thu 12:07

*straw sipping sound*
Inara Thu 12:07

oh lovely
Lawrence Thu 12:08

GUYS! PLEASE?!
Inara Thu 12:08

anw mingo, what do you think about seeing river visited Mr.U in the same night Badger saw Lenore visited him
Lawrence Thu 12:09

now I know how you feel... Calling out Fanty or me... And being ignored
Thu 12:09

I learned my lesson now... Now guys, remove those votes... Thank you...
Mingo Thu 12:09

Inara, what should I think about it?
Thu 12:10

River lied about her check that night, she was a familiar at that point
Lawrence Thu 12:10

I knew it, they're lynch votes. :'(
Patience Thu 12:10

Lawrence you wanted to play "the sketchy guy", and you know your missing results are sus af, and you still want village to trust you?
Mingo Thu 12:10

I don't know why she lied, maybe she didn't want to give away that a killer had been killed?
Lawrence Thu 12:11

And this is more sustainable than fanty the asv?
Thu 12:11

*Suspicious
Inara Thu 12:12

but that means in that night, both Vamp and Fam visited same person
Lawrence Thu 12:12

Why not pressure him too, you might get lucky
Inara Thu 12:12

Mingo, why do you think they do?
Lawrence Thu 12:14

I've seen too many snipes, like 3 at least. And it's very frustrating.
Thu 12:15

I really find Patience Sus, tbh. So what if he can stalk, ryt? You can't clear your name with that.
Thu 12:16

__________________________________________
Thu 12:17

Wait, sorry, was that meta?
Inara Thu 12:17

can anyone pls check when Mingo stated his check about river saw Mr.U visited Operater, before or after Badger reveal?
Patience Thu 12:21

Saying I'm sus at the moment is ignoring the reasoning
Thu 12:21

Anw, I'm moving my vote to caron until she state her result
Thu 12:22

In case she's recruited and intentionally show up very late to avoid having to state the result
Moderator Thu 12:22

Patience votes to lynch DrCaron
Lawrence Thu 12:23

I don't think it matters tho'. The point is either one of them lies, or VM + Fam being dumdum
Thu 12:24

Like uncoordinated protections, or repetitive seer checks... U know, human stuffs.
Thu 12:26

Thanks for your patience, tho I'm not out of the hole. A sketchy prot is a juicy snipe target at the last few minutes.
Thu 12:26

__________________________________________
Thu 12:28

And extrajuicy vamp food. *sigh*
Thu 12:31

Watch out for Inara. She's wreaks like a deflective witch.
Thu 12:31

__________________________________________
Thu 12:33

Answering a question with another question is standard for evils
Thu 12:34

__________________________________________
Thu 13:02

Uh hum, sorry for the tantrum fits.
Thu 13:06

Trying to find evil through checks and night actions is a time-honored strategy. But it has its limits.
Thu 13:06

__________________________________________
Thu 13:10

*major subject-verb disagreement*
Thu 13:11

__________________________________________
Thu 13:22

Voting tendency is also a good indicator.
Thu 13:36

For instance, coven doesn't have much killing power, so they have to rely on other means. Like SNIPING, lynching, vamps and wolves.
Thu 13:37

__________________________________________
Inara Thu 13:42

Votes are now even. Possibly still have a puppet. Can we decide who to vote now?
Thu 13:43

Some wont come back to change votes
Lawrence Thu 13:47

Fanty the asv guy.
Thu 13:48

So who was assuming he's a puppet trying to annoy?
Thu 13:49

Can you move to him tho, Inara?
JubalEarly Thu 13:49

I'm waiting to see who will not speak after a certain timing. if you guys think Coven exists. We know the existence of wolves, so let's do the Maths, how many wolves vs coven vs VM vs villagers as rough gauge.
Lawrence Thu 13:50

So we started at 21, ryt? With 2 puppets
JubalEarly Thu 13:51

I need to check back who is the one who saw a puppet.
Thu 13:51

I cant remember which seer was that
Thu 13:51

Yeah 21.
Thu 13:54

Confirmed role at GY: Robber, Militia, Familiar, Undertermined [my check]. Killed at night and kinda confimed and legit: Wash(seer)
Thu 13:55

So you have 1 VM vs 4 wolves vs 6 covens(inc puppets) and the rest villagers?
Lawrence Thu 13:55

So I think if there are no vanilla, there's balance in power. 5 wolves, 5 coven, 10 village, 1 VM?
JubalEarly Thu 13:57

What are the chances Lenore hitting either coven or wolf at night. I need to find the existence of a coven in the gy or at least a wolf in there. Otherwise, villagers screwed up.
Thu 13:57

So we know wolves have SS but not sure how many
Thu 13:58

Prolly BH since Nandi spotted the Fam
Lawrence Thu 14:08

If you're talking Maths ... I guess 40%
Thu 14:13

Maybe less.
Thu 14:15

So you haven't found a coven in Gy.
JubalEarly Thu 14:22

Nope, but Wash is legit so Coven exists coz I read back and he was the one who found puppet. Taking your 5 coven theory inc puppet, PM, witch(undercover militia role/reviver) and ? (no succu, shaman? undercover prot role). 5 wolves: SS, BH, WW, ? , ?(No existence of dw either unless they meet early death). I feel like I have to read Lenore and Lenriver on any indication of who she has killed.
Lawrence Thu 14:26

So hmm, about VM Fam. Does it need a marked guy to raise Vamp?
JubalEarly Thu 14:29

I think for VM, it is more of it's Fam but normal Vamp, a mark guy. Correct me if I'm wrong
Thu 14:29

Yeah which is why I got Lenore as Familiar
Thu 14:30

Immediate rebirth to her Fam
Lawrence Thu 14:35

And River is an ordinary Vamp?
Thu 14:35

*Lenriver
Thu 14:37

So when did Patience started pushing for my lynch?
JubalEarly Thu 14:38

I dont think she became a normal vamp.
Lawrence Thu 14:38

So uhm, still a VM?
JubalEarly Thu 14:39

I'm lazy to read back at the moment coz I kept reading back, why dont you take a scroll back yourself.
Thu 14:39

Yeah still a VM
Patience Thu 14:41

what do you mean by "when"?
Thu 14:43

I'm not sure about mechanism of this, but if it was the normal vamp and the marked one is dead right at that night, the GD and seer checks would still show the old result, not after the swap between fam-vamp right?
Thu 14:43

so I think it's pretty sure VM
Inara Thu 14:43

Tracy, who did you protected in n4?? Whoever you did, they are possibly not wolf
Patience Thu 14:44

I think VM (Lenore) recruited (River) N1
Thu 14:44

then VM (in River) recruited again N5
Thu 14:45

in the most optimistic case, she recruited Saffron but Saffron was dead because of the failed mason recruit
Inara Thu 14:45

Agree. Thats why i couldnt understand why stalkers didnt stalk river in n5
Thu 14:45

After nandi pointed her out
Patience Thu 14:45

that eliminates vampire completely
Thu 14:45

but let's think about less optimistic cases
JubalEarly Thu 14:46

Inara Thu 14:45 Agree. Thats why i couldnt understand why stalkers didnt stalk river in n5-------> This, I agree.
Inara Thu 14:46

Nandi wasnt a fam. SHe could be wolf or coven, i prefer wolf
Patience Thu 14:46

yes @Tracey if you read this then pls state your N4 protect, might confirm someone
Inara Thu 14:47

I think mr. U is a wolf
Patience Thu 14:47

I'm pretty sure Nandi was a wolf
JubalEarly Thu 14:47

Coz your ML decided to recruit her
Patience Thu 14:47

of course
Thu 14:48

@Inara we (most of use) thought that it was a regular vamp, because Lenore decided to do nothing N4 instead of recruit more
JubalEarly Thu 14:48

Stitch said he killed Jayne but Jayne is undetermined. So He is wolf
Patience Thu 14:49

that's why i didn't stalk River
JubalEarly Thu 14:49

I guess the conclusion of VM came after my dig
Patience Thu 14:49

yeah Nandi and stitch are pretty sure evils
JubalEarly Thu 14:50

So the perv town claimants made up of Patience, River(fam)
Thu 14:50

I think we have one more right
Inara Thu 14:50

Stitch was lit until n5. Either shifted or recruited
JubalEarly Thu 14:50

Let me read back.. urgh,.. read back again...
Inara Thu 14:50

I would say it was a shift
Thu 14:51

Jubal
Patience Thu 14:51

what did you mean, Jubal?
Inara Thu 14:51

Can u do me a favor?
JubalEarly Thu 14:51

Reading back who claimed stalkers in the early days
Inara Thu 14:51

When u read back, pls notice who state 1st
Thu 14:51

Among patience, badger and mingo
JubalEarly Thu 14:51

On claiming stalker?
Inara Thu 14:51

Nope. REvealing check
JubalEarly Thu 14:52

For which day?
Inara Thu 14:52

I have a bad feeling that at least one of them lied
Patience Thu 14:52

reasons I think Fanty is a puppet is that: 1. we're pretty sure there're PM and puppets in this game, but no nights had too many deaths yet, so i guess PM and 1 puppet is still in the game, and Fanty fits that the most
Inara Thu 14:52

From n3
Patience Thu 14:53

2. As I said earlier, it might be a bait for us to waste a lynch on a puppet, where we can just kill the PM and the puppet doesn't affect the votes anway
JubalEarly Thu 14:53

Fanty not asv-ing yet is weird
Patience Thu 14:53

3. Fanty doesn't talk anymore today, might be a puppet who can't talk because his PM is dead
JubalEarly Thu 14:54

So which mean what? Either Nandi, Wash or stitch the pm?
Patience Thu 14:54

remember if the PM is dead at night, the puppet won't be able to talk the next day, then die
Thu 14:54

i guess stitch
JubalEarly Thu 14:54

Cant be Nandi since she is wolf thanks to your ML
Patience Thu 14:54

yes, Nandi should not be coven
JubalEarly Thu 14:54

Wash is legit if you all believe him and his seering
Thu 14:54

That leaves with Stitch?
Thu 14:55

Who claims to have kill Jayne
Inara Thu 14:55

None of them could be pm. Stitch was lit until n5 as mingo
JubalEarly Thu 14:55

who turns out to be undertermined mean she SS alrdy
Inara Thu 14:55

Nandi sounds wolf
Patience Thu 14:55

stitch wasn't that lit
Inara Thu 14:55

Mingo saw his check as a wh
Thu 14:56

He could be shifted or recruited in n5. BUT before that he was lit
JubalEarly Thu 14:56

Do we believe in Mingo? Does his check clashes, that's also another thing
Patience Thu 14:56

all of stitch's results are already known, except the River's non-wc (he might guess from River's stalker claim) and we don't know who River was originally
DrCaron Thu 14:56

Inara and Wash both visited Nandi last night
Inara Thu 14:56

Guys?? Caron confirmed river's n1???
Thu 14:57

Caron, what do u see in n1?
Thu 14:57

Can u repeat?
Patience Thu 14:57

hmm ok Caron
JubalEarly Thu 14:57

Heere comes the doc
Patience Thu 14:57

Caron's N1 was no one visited Jayne
Thu 14:57

so Mingo
Thu 14:58

you said your result was ".... is a member of coven"?
DrCaron Thu 14:58

Thanks Patience
Thu 14:59

(on my phone)
JubalEarly Thu 14:59

Now we really need Mango on
Inara Thu 15:00

And jubal's n4 is...
Patience Thu 15:00

Caron are you totally sure about your result?
Thu 15:00

^^
Thu 15:00

Jubal missed N4
DrCaron Thu 15:00

Yes, 100%
JubalEarly Thu 15:00

@Inara where have you been ?
Patience Thu 15:00

Caron could you double check your last night result?
Thu 15:00

ok
JubalEarly Thu 15:00

I thought you keep up every single day?
Patience Thu 15:00

^^ I just did a stress test
Thu 15:00

my result is not relevant to her
JubalEarly Thu 15:00

@patience not you
Thu 15:01

To Inara
Patience Thu 15:01

Monty visited Stitch
Inara Thu 15:01

Juat want to make sure. iM having a list
Thu 15:01

But st i miss-tracked
JubalEarly Thu 15:01

Okay roger
Thu 15:01

Ah damn, i forgot what Monty claimed as
Thu 15:01

Let me check back
Inara Thu 15:02

Militia
Thu 15:02

Dun have to
JubalEarly Thu 15:02

LOL
Thu 15:02

Okay thanks
Inara Thu 15:02

He's Wash's n1. I think hes lit
Lawrence Thu 15:02

So it was Monty on the other guy, Stitch?
Inara Thu 15:03

Yeb. AS planned
DrCaron Thu 15:03

I trust Wash's results, and I'm so upset he's dead
Thu 15:03

I thought for sure prot would be on Wash
JubalEarly Thu 15:03

Perhaps tit for tat, we got their BH(assuming it's Nandi), they killed our seer
Thu 15:04

Oh yeahhh
Thu 15:04

Question the protection
Thu 15:04

Where's that Dick Tracy and Lawrence
Thu 15:04

We have prot and HM
Inara Thu 15:04

Trace protected wash in n5
Patience Thu 15:04

prot was on Wash N4 already
JubalEarly Thu 15:04

Jeng jeng!
Inara Thu 15:04

Couldnt do the same in n6
DrCaron Thu 15:05

Dick Tracey XD
Lawrence Thu 15:05

So I got doc's back, and uh. Tch
Inara Thu 15:05

Thats why i dont buy lawrence
JubalEarly Thu 15:05

hahahaha
Patience Thu 15:05

I don't buy this HM
Thu 15:05

too shady
JubalEarly Thu 15:05

I thought he was the reviver until today
Inara Thu 15:06

Now, mingo has 2 conflicts: about river visited mr. U, and wash found a coven
Patience Thu 15:06

but I only thinking what he could be, because badger said he visited a living person
Thu 15:06

yes I sus Mingo
Inara Thu 15:06

I thought he was a militia. he claimed that he could kill hisself
Lawrence Thu 15:07

Oh here we go...
Inara Thu 15:07

We have a sus beholder, stalkers with unconfirmed checks,
Thu 15:07

Badger pointed out good info
JubalEarly Thu 15:07

and sus HM
Patience Thu 15:07

but i thought of this case
Lawrence Thu 15:07

I think we're on to something...
Inara Thu 15:08

He saw tracy visit in n5 and caron last night
Patience Thu 15:08

one possibility is that Lawrence was recruited and now being VM, and recruited Badger yesterday
Inara Thu 15:08

But he didnt state his check before the target
Patience Thu 15:08

so Badger made up a result for Lawrence
DrCaron Thu 15:08

it's also very possible that VM recruited Fanty and is lying low
Lawrence Thu 15:08

Uh huh
Inara Thu 15:08

I dont think so, i could shoot him anytime. Vam wont risk
JubalEarly Thu 15:09

Lenore recruiting Fanta? Im gonna laugh at her\
Inara Thu 15:09

Yeb. Im joining w u Jubal
Patience Thu 15:09

if Fanty was recruited then it would be easier to just "asv" like he always does everyday, not keeping silent
DrCaron Thu 15:09

I only say that because we openly discussed ignoring him
Inara Thu 15:10

We have militia, pat
Lawrence Thu 15:10

Lenore recruiting Patience anyone? Coz he's the best.
Patience Thu 15:10

no we just ignore when we have enough good targets to go
DrCaron Thu 15:10

Not anymore, right?
Inara Thu 15:10

Because we found better lynch
Patience Thu 15:10

after that we just kill him
JubalEarly Thu 15:10

I just dont want another wasted lynch
Inara Thu 15:10

Caron is really good target
JubalEarly Thu 15:10

If he indeed a puppet
Inara Thu 15:11

Tmr u should srate ur check 1st, caron
JubalEarly Thu 15:11

But we have been ignoring Fanty too much
Patience Thu 15:11

I thought Caron might be the target too, but harlot's result is hard to fake
Inara Thu 15:11

*state
DrCaron Thu 15:11

I don't think (meta wise) Leniver would try to be me
Patience Thu 15:11

that's why i wanted Caron to go before me and keep my result back
Inara Thu 15:11

I dont see why
JubalEarly Thu 15:11

You two have love hate relationship
Lawrence Thu 15:11

Caron, uh... Who's our seer again?
DrCaron Thu 15:12

Inara, you know I can't be on until around 1600, so if people want to wait, that's fine
Patience Thu 15:12

wth Lawrence
DrCaron Thu 15:12

seer is dead, Larry
Inara Thu 15:12

We need mingo now
Moderator Thu 15:12

Patience votes to lynch Lawrence
Lawrence Thu 15:12

Hehe, here we go?
Thu 15:13

I was trying to get Caron to say Walsh.
Patience Thu 15:13

really, if you're a village member and you make yourself sus af, and even missed 2 nights, it's your fault when you're lynched
DrCaron Thu 15:14

Honestly, I doubt they'd want the hassle of pretending to be me
Inara Thu 15:14

Lenore said mingo is a wc user, its her n1
Thu 15:14

Mingo didnt say it before her, right?
JubalEarly Thu 15:14

yeah
DrCaron Thu 15:14

But she grabbed River N1, right?
Patience Thu 15:15

we possibly face 2 vamp members now: 1 is reborn Lenore, and 1 is newly recruited last night
JubalEarly Thu 15:15

We assumed she grabbed River N1
Lawrence Thu 15:15

And that would be 4 on me... Haha... Nice one Patience.
Inara Thu 15:15

How could she know mingo is an user
JubalEarly Thu 15:15

But Mingo surprisingly claimed as Beholder
Inara Thu 15:15

Can u check back?
Thu 15:16

Who claimed 1st?
Patience Thu 15:16

Inara, I remember it
JubalEarly Thu 15:16

Pretty sure Lenore stated it first coz Mingo being the mango he was, kinda refused to say his role
Patience Thu 15:16

Mingo suggested he was beholder first
JubalEarly Thu 15:16

Huh?
Patience Thu 15:17

by saying "MrU visited Operative..."
JubalEarly Thu 15:17

Is my mind bamboozled again
Lawrence Thu 15:17

Patience: really, if you're a village member and you make yourself sus af, and even missed 2 nights, it's your fault when you're lynched
JubalEarly Thu 15:17

why do I keep getting fact right
Patience Thu 15:17

then Lenore claimed Mingo was wc user
Thu 15:18

in my sus list: Mingo, Lawrence, Fanty
DrCaron Thu 15:18

On keyboard now
JubalEarly Thu 15:18

But that being said she guess it at a risk coz Mingo could potentially be a stalker which doesnt fall under WH good vibes
DrCaron Thu 15:18

Yeah, Mingo was definitely hinting at Beholder, I think
Thu 15:19

Lenore Likely took a calculated risk
Patience Thu 15:19

I think most ppl guessed beholder
Inara Thu 15:19

Coven- beholder?
Thu 15:20

Mingo wasnt in same team with stitch
Lawrence Thu 15:20

...sigh
Patience Thu 15:20

btw Monty hasn't shown up today right?
JubalEarly Thu 15:20

Coven doesnt have that luxury to get such intel.
Patience Thu 15:20

he might be lit earlier but when we have VM in the game....
Lawrence Thu 15:21

Patience: Best VM recruit
Moderator Thu 15:21

Lawrence votes to lynch Patience
DrCaron Thu 15:21

Have we ruled out our claimed militia as witch yet?
Patience Thu 15:21

lol
DrCaron Thu 15:21

Larry, i agree that Patience is a good recruit, for sure
Patience Thu 15:21

this Lawrence keep trying to frame me
DrCaron Thu 15:21

I just haven't seen any evidence to support it
Patience Thu 15:21

a common evil plan
Inara Thu 15:22

Mingo said wash visited no one in n2, before wash said he missed it, right????
Lawrence Thu 15:22

And starting a bandwagon on me, instead of anyone else... That is totally not evil.
Patience Thu 15:23

here's the thing: for the previous recruit, I'm surely not, because if i was recruited earlier I wouldn't have those correct results, and moreover now I would be Lenore (pffft)
JubalEarly Thu 15:23

Im on maggie noodle, Im not paying attention so sorry cant check back else I get fact "right" again *cries*
Lawrence Thu 15:23

Like Fanty the asv
Patience Thu 15:23

for the last night recruit: literally EVERYONE here could be the last night recruit
Inara Thu 15:23

@caron: monty is wash's n1. I THink he is lit. IF there is a witch-coven, it must be me. BUT i am not
Lawrence Thu 15:23

But you're the best one.
Patience Thu 15:23

about Mingo and Wash N2, let me check back
Inara Thu 15:24

So i can say there's no witch
JubalEarly Thu 15:24

So where is Lenore now
Patience Thu 15:24

on possibility is that now Monty, because he's silent today
Thu 15:25

and last night he just use vamp kill to kill stitch to make it looks like militia kill
Inara Thu 15:25

He's always silent
Patience Thu 15:25

but just a possibility
Inara Thu 15:25

But there could be a recruitment in n5, who is now vm
JubalEarly Thu 15:26

Hmmm recruitment position usually Fam not another VM in the making
Patience Thu 15:26

I think Wash said he missed N2 first, and Mingo's Wash N2 result was pretty late, a few days later
JubalEarly Thu 15:26

We will die if there such mechanism
Inara Thu 15:26

If so monty was recruited in n5, wash checked him so no need to worry abt seer
Thu 15:26

Hummm.. mingo's check can be fak
Patience Thu 15:26

clearly
Thu 15:27

even his N4 Lenore visited no one was that Lenore said it first
Inara Thu 15:27

But he pointed stitch out
Thu 15:27

Same team?
JubalEarly Thu 15:28

Wait who did he behold to get such resulkt
DrCaron Thu 15:28

No wolves found in GY, right, just Jayne as undetermined?
JubalEarly Thu 15:28

Yeap
DrCaron Thu 15:29

I guess it's a safe bet that Stitch is Jayne and in GY now, though
JubalEarly Thu 15:29

But we assumed SS into Stitch given how he claimed to have down the death hammer on as WH
DrCaron Thu 15:29

And Nandi is almost definitely a wolf
JubalEarly Thu 15:30

But Mingo stated he behold stitch and see Jayne as WC user
DrCaron Thu 15:30

So do we think 1 or two more wolves are still alive?
JubalEarly Thu 15:30

Also the order of WW, intel comes before kills
Thu 15:31

URGH, why could I have a closure on Mingo-stitch.
Thu 15:31

cldnt*
Thu 15:31

I was busy debating with Lenore of the mechanism of Beholder
Thu 15:32

till Mingo came to say Lenore is right
Thu 15:32

Can we just put as Mingo the other recruitment other than river
DrCaron Thu 15:34

There are so many shady damn people, though!
Thu 15:34

I really wonder just how many lit village are left
Thu 15:35

*builds a tinfoil fortress*
Lawrence Thu 15:36

6 vills I think ?
JubalEarly Thu 15:36

This morning, I felt like I'm the only one left being the lit villager, being taken for a ride till the end for trusting the wrong people *trauma and flashback*
DrCaron Thu 15:36

How did you get that number?
Lawrence Thu 15:37

Jubal list of checks, I kinda guesstimated from that.
Mingo Thu 15:38

Okay, what is going on here...
Thu 15:38

DrC is lying o.o
DrCaron Thu 15:39

If there were 6 village, we'd only have 4 evils to deal with, 1 of which is PM and 1 (possibly) puppet
Mingo Thu 15:39

Wash didn't visit Nandi, he visited Fanty
DrCaron Thu 15:39

That would mean only VM and Family left
Mingo Thu 15:39

Fanty is coven
DrCaron Thu 15:39

Nope
Moderator Thu 15:39

DrCaron votes to lynch Mingo
Mingo Thu 15:39

Yup
DrCaron Thu 15:40

It's a good try, though
Mingo Thu 15:40

And, here's a question for you, why would both the seer and the harlot visit a person who was scheduled to be milita shot anyway
DrCaron Thu 15:41

I think Mingo meant to say Walsh XD
Thu 15:42

I visited to make sure I could confirm a shooter, and if anyone claimed they shot and it bounced, I'd know it wasn't true
Mingo Thu 15:42

Why would I say Walsh? I don't sound anything like Lenore...
JubalEarly Thu 15:42

Then shouldnt you have seen the shooter as well?
DrCaron Thu 15:42

Haha, okay, well played GG
Thu 15:43

if they were lying, Jubal, because they weren't militia
Thu 15:43

but Inara visited
Mingo Thu 15:43

... but we'd know that if the person died
Thu 15:43

it's pretty hard to kill someone without visiting them you know
Thu 15:44

(although apparently Nandi managed it!)
DrCaron Thu 15:44

Mingo. . .I visited Nandi on the chance that she didn't die (I didn't believe in 2 militia) ans someone claimed to have shot
Thu 15:44

That was the whole idea
Thu 15:45

In this case, I can confirm Inara's story, so she is either militia lit, or witch
JubalEarly Thu 15:45

@Mingo Which role do you think Fanty is if he is truly a coven?
Mingo Thu 15:45

PM
Thu 15:45

I'm pretty damn certain
DrCaron Thu 15:45

At this point, I think it's entirely safe to lynch Mingo
Thu 15:46

Let's get this done
Thu 15:46

Please move from larry to Mingo, guys
Thu 15:46

Confirmed evil versus suspected evil
Mingo Thu 15:47

Please don't
Lawrence Thu 15:47

No you should lynch me and watch Lenore rise. That would be fun.
DrCaron Thu 15:48

Jubal, time to switch votes
Mingo Thu 15:48

I'm currently wondering whether DrCaron is a better lynch than a coven
DrCaron Thu 15:48

Larry, you very well could be evil, but I know for a fact that Mingo is
Thu 15:49

Where is everyone?
Lawrence Thu 15:49

Well, I like it when Caron acts like the leader of this bunch
JubalEarly Thu 15:49

That's because she is savingyou from getting lynch
DrCaron Thu 15:49

Gonna say it louder for the folks in the back, I'm not a leader, but I know what I know
Thu 15:49

not saving, postponing on the grounds of actual evidence
Lawrence Thu 15:49

But I guess they're set on killing me, I honestly don't know why?
DrCaron Thu 15:49

I have no evidence for Larry
Thu 15:50

Jubal, lynch the confirmed before the suspected
Mingo Thu 15:50

You have no evidence for anything
DrCaron Thu 15:50

Bull, Mingo
Lawrence Thu 15:50

Neither do they. But it's ok. That's how coven works
JubalEarly Thu 15:50

I demand Prot or HM (if he is truly HM) tonight. Lynch whoever you guys want. I'll do my job.
DrCaron Thu 15:51

Getting pretty sure I'm outnumbered at this point
Lawrence Thu 15:51

Now that is a better idea. Democratic.
Thu 15:51

#strengthinnumbers
DrCaron Thu 15:51

Anyone who doesn't change to Mingo is ridiculously sus at this point
Thu 15:52

After his performance all game, it should be a no brainer
Lawrence Thu 15:52

This is a coven game now, Doc. We can't do anything about this.
DrCaron Thu 15:52

Larry, you're not voting him either. . .
Moderator Thu 15:53

Lawrence votes to lynch Mingo
Mingo Thu 15:53

How about we lynch "Larry" and I'll behold Patience tonight
Lawrence Thu 15:53

Sorry, too busy typing.
DrCaron Thu 15:53

You won't behold anyone, because you're not beholder, so not a great plan
Mingo Thu 15:54

And then we'll see who has evidence, DrC
DrCaron Thu 15:54

Hahaha, okie dokes
Lawrence Thu 15:55

Actually, this is too close to call. You're both contradicting each other. Let's just work with a deal. Let's vote...
DrCaron Thu 15:55

No deal
Thu 15:55

We lynch Mingo
Moderator Thu 15:55

Lawrence votes to lynch Fanty
Moderator Thu 15:55

Monty votes to lynch Mingo
JubalEarly Thu 15:55

@DrC Were you not surprise of Lawrence not reviving? I thought as of yesterday, everyone seems to be expecting him to revive?
Monty Thu 15:55

Hey guys, I'll read up and be back in an hr or so
DrCaron Thu 15:55

Sure, but that's not evidence, it
Monty Thu 15:55

And yes, I did shoot Stitch.
DrCaron Thu 15:55

's circumstance
Thu 15:55

Hey Monty
Lawrence Thu 15:56

Let's go for the more obvious person... Fanty the asv.
DrCaron Thu 15:56

No
Thu 15:56

Mingo is the evil
Thu 15:56

it's clear contradiction
Mingo Thu 15:56

No Caron is the evil
Thu 15:56

it's clear contradiction
Lawrence Thu 15:57

But we can't kill anyone, coz everyone's outta here.
DrCaron Thu 15:57

Good one, Mingo
Thu 15:57

Great job, everyone
Thu 15:57

*thumbs up*
JubalEarly Thu 15:58

I dont like to be push just to move my vote. I'll do it at my own accord, I dont have to move my vote now.
Lawrence Thu 15:58

This is a coven game now, Doc. Now Monty, I know you're the real militia. Let's go for Fanty.
Monty Thu 15:58

Mingo is involved in alot of conflicts, thats very sus for me
DrCaron Thu 15:58

The only excuse not to lynch Mingo is if you're not village aligned
Thu 15:58

It's that simple
Thu 15:59

I don't like being told what to do is a pleasant way of saying I'm not village when it's the obvious move
JubalEarly Thu 15:59

Lawrence you are so sure of Monty now not being recruited
Mingo Thu 15:59

Monty, two contradictions (one with a confirmed evil) and one bit of weirdness
JubalEarly Thu 15:59

With my suspicions on everyone, that statement doesnt apply to me doc
DrCaron Thu 16:00

Mingo, with no original claims and an obvious lie
Thu 16:00

Bull, Jubal, it applies to anyone
Mingo Thu 16:00

I told you Lenore didn't see anything before she did!
JubalEarly Thu 16:00

I wouldnt say lynch whoever you want, I'll do my job if I'm on any evil faction
Lawrence Thu 16:00

Is there proof for that?
Mingo Thu 16:00

that's one original claim :(
JubalEarly Thu 16:01

It took me a while before moving my vote from Badger to Lawrence
Thu 16:01

So dont expect me to follow it asap
Thu 16:06

Mingo, Lenore seems to be having your back all the time. \
Lawrence Thu 16:06

I'll be honest, I just wanna save my asp. Idk if fanty is village or not. But he's Sus, and I wanna save my asp coz I wanna play some more. So please, if you're fun person, let me die with honor. Not like this. Not like a traitor.
JubalEarly Thu 16:07

@Lawrence Im glad with this vote, you actually stay being active compared to other days.
Lawrence Thu 16:08

No need protecting me in the night, just prot somebody else ok...
Inara Thu 16:08

I'd rather go for Lawrence and let mingo and Caron a test
Lawrence Thu 16:09

The witch of endor returns
JubalEarly Thu 16:10

I'll be honest, Fanty is a goodbye. If you wanna do test, give Lawrence a test too, it's only fair
Lawrence Thu 16:10

��
Inara Thu 16:10

how can we test the HM?
Thu 16:10

I don't think we should waste a lynch for another puppet
Lawrence Thu 16:11

Puppet, right .
Mingo Thu 16:11

Inara, not likely a puppet imho
JubalEarly Thu 16:11

If Fanty is the puppet, who is the PM then?
Mingo Thu 16:11

much more likely the PM
Patience Thu 16:11

hmm actually I didn't remember any tests which succeded
Inara Thu 16:11

if Fanty is a PM, still some puppet somewhere?
Thu 16:11

who could be?
JubalEarly Thu 16:11

I hate this pm puppet
Inara Thu 16:12

@Pat: Agreed, every of them
Mingo Thu 16:12

Plus, Wash would have seen puppet
Patience Thu 16:12

the way Mingo has been saying doesn't sound like evil very much, but the conflicts are there, a lot
Mingo Thu 16:12

he saw Coven
Inara Thu 16:12

I hate VM more
Thu 16:12

as Nandi?
Thu 16:12

or as who?
Patience Thu 16:12

let me read back about whether Mingo or Lenore said first
JubalEarly Thu 16:12

Dont ask me to read back, Im getting it wrong today even when reading back
Thu 16:13

How woud you test DrC and Mingo, Inara?
Inara Thu 16:13

oh Fanty
Lawrence Thu 16:13

#covengame
Inara Thu 16:13

I'll have to think
Thu 16:13

Mingo can behold you
Thu 16:14

what if Mingo behold you, and Tracy protect you?
Patience Thu 16:14

Hey Mingo
Thu 16:14

Lenore said she didn't visit first, before you said that
Lawrence Thu 16:15

Yup, and I can prot a target, or not. Then Caron should tell.
Mingo Thu 16:15

Patience, what
Lawrence Thu 16:15

��
Patience Thu 16:15

@Mingo, D5, look back
Inara Thu 16:15

Badger and Patience,one of them stalk on sb,or both of them. Caron must inform who visited
JubalEarly Thu 16:15

They could do that on me@Inara but DrC harlot on who to test her?
Thu 16:16

Ahh okay
Patience Thu 16:16

Lenore Tue 08:17 I didn't visit Tue 08:18 Else I'd kill Mingo
Mingo Thu 16:16

Bah, crap. I know you guys won't believe me but I never actually read the day talk before stating my result
Inara Thu 16:16

if you want to give Lawrence a try, we can have one of two stalkers on him, or both
JubalEarly Thu 16:16

Problem is Mingo, Lenore seems to be having your back.
Mingo Thu 16:17

Lenore is clever
Inara Thu 16:17

but it failed if DrC one of them in the same team, or they kill one of them
JubalEarly Thu 16:17

You were the one who said her theory on Beholder is true right?
Thu 16:17

@Mingo
Lawrence Thu 16:18

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Thu 16:18

Jdjdkdkfkfkckdkkxkxkckcmxmkdmxlclclckxndmmcmxkdkdkd
Mingo Thu 16:18

Jubal, yes, I pasted a direct quote on the subject taken from a Discord discussion
Lawrence Thu 16:18

Jdkdkdkdkdkdkxkdlzlsodikdkdkdkdkxkdkdkxkdkdkdkkdkdkdkdkdo
Mingo Thu 16:18

...
Lawrence Thu 16:18

Jdjdkdkdkdkkxkkdkdkxmdmdmdkmdmxkdkdkdkdkkxkfkckd
Thu 16:18

Ndkdkdmxmkxkxkxkxkkxmxkxlxlmxmxmxmdkkdkxkdkdkdood
Mingo Thu 16:18

WTF Lawrence?
Lawrence Thu 16:18

All I hear is coven talk...
JubalEarly Thu 16:19

Where's wolves Lawrence?
Patience Thu 16:19

we're having some lynch candidates right now, problem is who is the most likely which should be eliminate asap
JubalEarly Thu 16:19

You're bias. Right now, Im seeing wolves and coven talked
Patience Thu 16:19

coven is the least proritized
JubalEarly Thu 16:19

@alwrence
Lawrence Thu 16:20

Wolves wont bother, coz they can kill in the night...
Thu 16:20

Coven has.to snipe
Patience Thu 16:20

wolves, maybe 1 left, so if we're lucky we may eliminate wolves completely and reduce the killing power
JubalEarly Thu 16:20

The last time I check, the objective is to kill wolves first. damn this memo need to change, now it seems that whoever is the evil faction left behind as majority will win
Patience Thu 16:21

Lawrence was seen visiting Caron by Badger, if we believe Badger then what role Lawrence could be?
Lawrence Thu 16:21

Vampire of course.
Thu 16:21

Am recruiting yo
Patience Thu 16:22

thanks for that, much appreciated
Lawrence Thu 16:22

Yup... Save you the trouble
Patience Thu 16:22

possibly Lawrence is VM and recruited Badger
JubalEarly Thu 16:22

Say it's a twisted theory, like how you guys keep saying, who said first, now Badger said it first, so what now?
Lawrence Thu 16:22

That's exactly what I did.
Patience Thu 16:23

or.. Lawrence VM recruited Caron, and Badger saw that...?
JubalEarly Thu 16:23

You have Mingo vs DrC vs Lawrence vs Fanty
Lawrence Thu 16:23

You have no proof!
Tracey Thu 16:23

@inara i protected jubal last night. Cant prot him again tonight
JubalEarly Thu 16:23

@patience another possibility. So I guess we really need a test
Thu 16:23

@Tracey thanks mate
Mingo Thu 16:24

Tracy...
JubalEarly Thu 16:24

Get HM on me then
Patience Thu 16:24

OMG Tracey what???
Mingo Thu 16:24

Please tell me that was already public knowledge
Lawrence Thu 16:24

Thanks for the info Tracey
Patience Thu 16:24

who told you to say your last night prot?
Thu 16:24

@Tracey your N4 prot pls
Thu 16:24

could you state that?
JubalEarly Thu 16:25

*cries* When will plan ever works for village..
Mingo Thu 16:25

Also, if we're speculating about roles, could Tracy be Shaman?
Lawrence Thu 16:25

HM on Jubal lol
JubalEarly Thu 16:25

Ive alrdy stated that fact on how protection role be it prot or hm could potentially be coven's shamn
Mingo Thu 16:26

Jubal, always one step ahead
Lawrence Thu 16:26

Anyway, i.trust Jubal and Caron
Patience Thu 16:26

if Tracey is evil, i think he should have been recruited
Lawrence Thu 16:26

Or your last line of defense? O wait, you're the bad.guy
Patience Thu 16:27

@Tracey seriously?? showed up stated last night result which nobody wants then disappear?
Mingo Thu 16:27

Too many people in this game just talk for the sake of taking
Thu 16:27

People should learn how to listen
Inara Thu 16:28

Oh Tracey...
Lawrence Thu 16:29

Sure is Sus. Let's lynch Lawry anyway
Inara Thu 16:29

@patience:
JubalEarly Thu 16:29

test them then
Inara Thu 16:29

can you read back D4? Badger said he stalked Operative, but didnt get the result
Patience Thu 16:30

yes, then he said he refreshed and saw the result
Inara Thu 16:30

Patience was the one who said Operative visited me 1st
Lawrence Thu 16:30

Coven talk, blah blah blah
Patience Thu 16:30

no, I remember it more than you
Lawrence Thu 16:30

Patience Thu 16:30 no, I remember it more than you
JubalEarly Thu 16:30

Grah, if you wanna save yourself from getting lynch, just dont say that blah blah blah
Patience Thu 16:31

Badger first said he didn't see the result, then a while after he came back and read the result, until then I hadn't told my result
Inara Thu 16:31

oh yes, sorry
Thu 16:31

just read back, twice
Lawrence Thu 16:31

This is coven game now boy. You can't do nothing bout it
Moderator Thu 16:31

JubalEarly votes to lynch Badger
JubalEarly Thu 16:31

Til I decide who to go for
Thu 16:32

if there;s no test
Inara Thu 16:32

why Jubal?
Patience Thu 16:32

yes, why?
Inara Thu 16:32

who do you trust more? Badger or Patience?
Patience Thu 16:32

what the hell?
Inara Thu 16:32

I'm asking Jubal
JubalEarly Thu 16:32

That badger vote was like a taxi stand
Thu 16:32

I park there first
Thu 16:33

while waiting for potential customer
Lawrence Thu 16:33

Oohh, now witch lost their wand...
JubalEarly Thu 16:33

chill will you
Inara Thu 16:33

So here's the fact
Thu 16:33

if lawrence wasnt lit, jubal will be killed in anyway
Thu 16:33

if lawrence is lit, hopefully we have jubal here tmr
Thu 16:33

I'll go for fanty
Thu 16:34

what do you guys think?
Lawrence Thu 16:34

So just kill me already.
JubalEarly Thu 16:34

@Inara Between badger and patience.. hmmmm because of ML, Patience but if you ask me about potential recruitment, both
Patience Thu 16:34

i've just said about priority in our lynch
Mingo Thu 16:34

Inara, I'll back any plan that involves killing Fanty
Patience Thu 16:34

fanty is likely to be coven, not as much prioritized
Lawrence Thu 16:35

Blah blah blah blah it ends the same way.
Moderator Thu 16:35

Inara votes to lynch Fanty
JubalEarly Thu 16:35

Coven vs wolves number, who hold the highest member as of now if you guys wanna make a guess?
Inara Thu 16:35

hope i dont ruin the game by this decision
Patience Thu 16:35

@Inara I can't understand why you bring me and Badger in like a sus list, and why not both??? what're you thinking?
Inara Thu 16:35

GUYS, CAN I HAVE A MINUTE
Mingo Thu 16:35

Patience, I agree, Zealot > Vampire > Wolves > Coven
Inara Thu 16:35

We lynch Fanty today, he's no good, we're all sure.
Thu 16:36

And have lawrence protect Jubal
Mingo Thu 16:36

but, do you think coven have died yet?
Inara Thu 16:36

if Jubal die tmr by anyway, we lynch Lawrence tmr
Thu 16:36

if Jubal is alive, we will think about it later
JubalEarly Thu 16:36

Or if Mingo gets the wrong result from the stalk
Patience Thu 16:36

@Inara, see Lawrence's reactions today, do you feel it's a reaction from a lit person? I don't think so
Inara Thu 16:36

if Jubal and Lawrence both die, we feel sorry for them =))
Patience Thu 16:37

it feels like Lenore
Inara Thu 16:37

I dont buy him too, but if he is a wolf, wolves wont kill jubal to make him lit
Mingo Thu 16:37

"feels"
Inara Thu 16:37

but actually wolves rather sacrisfy him. he's to sus to be protected
Mingo Thu 16:37

*eyes narrow at Patience*
Patience Thu 16:37

what's the problem with feeling?
Thu 16:38

what do you expect in this game?
Inara Thu 16:38

there could be two death, jubal and a stalker
Thu 16:38

so plan isnt perfect
Thu 16:38

or a stalker recruited, same
Thu 16:38

but we couldnt do more
Moderator Thu 16:38

Inara votes to lynch Lawrence
Inara Thu 16:38

changed my mind
Mingo Thu 16:39

Patience: facts or reasonable inferences backed by publicly known information
Inara Thu 16:39

All votes on 1 and only one, pls
Thu 16:39

who do you think ???
Patience Thu 16:39

you never get enough 100% concrete facts in this game, buddy
Thu 16:39

let me think a bit more Inara
Mingo Thu 16:39

Feeling implies that you don't have any good reason to back up a claim and you're just trying to influence people to your way of thinking based on emotions or supposition
Patience Thu 16:40

so you think we can't judge by reading the way people react?
Thu 16:40

yes/no?
Thu 16:41

*not allowed to judge
JubalEarly Thu 16:42

Le sigh
Mingo Thu 16:42

I /think/ that if you want to make a point your wording be representative of the fact that your conclusion has come from your brain, rather than (for example) a tingly sensation running up your arm
Thu 16:42

should be*
JubalEarly Thu 16:42

You know Lawrence said "here we go".. what? again?
Thu 16:42

argggh
Thu 16:43

brb, I need to stone for a while
Inara Thu 16:43

anw, mingo's result can be fake too, if he is a coven N1: Bester nothing - because puppets . N2 Wash missed - wash said 1st. N3 River -> MrUniverse visited Operative, could be a lie which is now conflicting. N4 Lenore nothing, confirmed vam. N5 Jayne is a Witchcraft user, maybe because jayne shifted into a coven? N6 Wash visited Nandi, if I were Wash, I wont visit a shot target
Patience Thu 16:43

"feeling" can't be from the brain? sorry if your definition is different but to me it can. And I think we should end the *wording* problem here
Thu 16:44

Lawrence today doesn't sound like he was yesterday or the day before
JubalEarly Thu 16:44

Why would Wash visit Nandi knowing Nandi will get shot?
Inara Thu 16:44

if Lawrence is Lenore, I would laugh into her face
Patience Thu 16:44

yesterday he refused to claim like a boss and sounded like he didn't care
Inara Thu 16:45

that;s why I think the problem is Mingo, Jubal
Patience Thu 16:45

today he talks very much and reacts... I think it's more like Lenore
Mingo Thu 16:45

Patience, I'm probably not expressing this very well; to me it's the difference between walking cold room and saying "it feels about 13.6 degrees in here because the hairs on my arm are standing up" and "I think it's about 13.6 degrees in here because the thermostat says that"
JubalEarly Thu 16:45

@Inara Mingo stated wash visit Fanty
Thu 16:45

Not Nandi
Thu 16:45

Am I drunk
Thu 16:45

Did I get it wrong
Inara Thu 16:45

oh oh
Thu 16:45

nope, you got it right
JubalEarly Thu 16:45

DrC was the one who said Wash visit Nandi
Mingo Thu 16:45

You did, Jubal!
Inara Thu 16:45

it was Caron said Wash visited Nandi
Mingo Thu 16:45

have a cookie :3
JubalEarly Thu 16:46

omg!!
Thu 16:46

I get it right finally!
Inara Thu 16:46

but fanty is a coven like obv to me
Thu 16:46

same results; his check can be fake, not concrete, but can be
Patience Thu 16:47

fanty could be a puppet and seer's result would not be coven but puppet
Thu 16:47

but yea, he could guess so and make a fake result
Mingo Thu 16:47

Yeah, so unless a Djinn swapped them last night Fanty isn't a puppet
Inara Thu 16:47

and like I said many times, Caron is really a good target to recruit, and she saw wash visited nandi, which is... waste
Mingo Thu 16:48

Given we've not seen any Djinn swaps, I rate that possibility low, but I don't think we should discount that there could be a Djinn lurking
Inara Thu 16:48

I dont think so, mingo
Thu 16:48

we dont have any sign of them, but puppets
Thu 16:48

both covens and wolves lay low for their role
Mingo Thu 16:48

Fanty acts like I would as PM tbh
Inara Thu 16:48

we found a SS and possibly a BH, that's all
Mingo Thu 16:49

It's almost stereotypical puppet behaviour
Inara Thu 16:49

so far we have 2 wolves in GY, so lynching a coven isnt a bad choice
Mingo Thu 16:49

but he hasn't been smited yet
Inara Thu 16:49

balance the number
JubalEarly Thu 16:49

Coz he asv-ing till today. He can only get smited tomorrow
Thu 16:50

If Fanty is PM, who is the other puppet unless alrdy been killed
Patience Thu 16:50

zz we need to reduce the killing power as soon as possible, Inara
Mingo Thu 16:50

Jubal, my point is that if the PM couldn't be bothered to manage three characters, why keep an "obvious" puppet alive for so long
JubalEarly Thu 16:50

Yeap
Mingo Thu 16:51

why not let them be smited D3 and make your life easier?
Patience Thu 16:51

IF there's 1 wolf + 1 PM + 1 puppet + 1 VM + 1 fam left, best thing is to lynch the wolf
Mingo Thu 16:51

So I think he's PM pretending to be a puppet
Thu 16:51

plus, killers aren't gonna waste a kill on a puppet
Inara Thu 16:51

who is wolf you think? Patience?
Patience Thu 16:52

how are you sure he would be smitten Mingo, he could show up in the last minute and "asv"
Thu 16:52

Inara I'm not sure yet
Thu 16:52

even those remaining numbers
Mingo Thu 16:52

Patience, I don't understand your question?
Inara Thu 16:52

between Caron and Mingo, one lied
Patience Thu 16:52

but I mean balancing the numbers is not the priority
DrCaron Thu 16:53

What I can't imagine you guys ignoring is why I would mention Wash at all if I was lying
Thu 16:53

Why would i say he visited Nandi?
Thu 16:54

That just causes complications if I'm a liar
Inara Thu 16:54

but why do you think he visited nandi?
DrCaron Thu 16:54

We have stalkers
Thu 16:54

I don't know why
Thu 16:54

Honestly, the move makes no sense to me
Thu 16:54

We knew she was wolf
Inara Thu 16:55

and I found another mistery
DrCaron Thu 16:55

Hmm?
Mingo Thu 16:55

DrC, I think you did it deliberately to be in conflict with me since I already hinted who I visited
Inara Thu 16:55

N4, Caron saw river visited wash. River confirmed to saw wash visited lenore
DrCaron Thu 16:55

Mingo, I haven't cared about you all game
Inara Thu 16:55

and wash pointed out that lenore is a vamp
Mingo Thu 16:55

I think you figured I had such a weak claim you could tip it over
DrCaron Thu 16:55

If i wanted to contradict, I would have done it with someone more important
Mingo Thu 16:55

but maybe I'm paranoid
Inara Thu 16:55

sounds like river was selling her vamp for her safety
Patience Thu 16:56

Inara: i don't think it's a conflict
JubalEarly Thu 16:56

I think River knew it will be an immediate rebirth with no worry
DrCaron Thu 16:57

Yeah, River was trying to look like a lit stalker, and with VM, it doesn't actually matter since she knew the VM would hop
JubalEarly Thu 16:57

But River was unfortunate to get caught the next day
Patience Thu 16:57

maybe River really stalked Wash and saw that, and just told the facts to look lit
Thu 16:57

River got caught the *same* day
DrCaron Thu 16:57

River was likely stalker fam
Patience Thu 16:57

ah really the next day
DrCaron Thu 16:58

Yeah, next day
Inara Thu 16:58

yeb, could be
Patience Thu 16:58

hmm
Moderator Thu 16:58

Patience votes to lynch Mingo
Inara Thu 16:59

go with mingo?
Thu 16:59

why?
Patience Thu 16:59

I still think harlot's result is too hard to fake
Thu 16:59

there's an obvious conflict here
Inara Thu 16:59

not really
Thu 16:59

she could be recruited recently
Patience Thu 16:59

could be
Thu 16:59

but even if so, is her result fake?
Inara Thu 17:00

recruitment can happen in N5 or N6
Thu 17:00

hum... wash visit nandi?
DrCaron Thu 17:00

I swear to you, that's the result I got
Patience Thu 17:00

if recruited N5, Caron is now Lenore, but I don't think so
Inara Thu 17:01

I don't really trust typo
Patience Thu 17:01

if recruited N6, she's having another objective, but the result was still real
Thu 17:01

in fact I think it's Lawrence who's Lenore now
DrCaron Thu 17:01

Again, I really doubt Lenore would want to try to fake me
Inara Thu 17:01

I'm not sure who to choose between mingo and Caron, but we will need a test
DrCaron Thu 17:01

It's meta, but I think I'm harder to fake for some than for others
Inara Thu 17:01

but lawrence
DrCaron Thu 17:02

What test?
Inara Thu 17:02

I'm 100% sure that he's no good
Patience Thu 17:02

100% sure?
Inara Thu 17:02

like I mention above which i will repeat in caplock later
DrCaron Thu 17:02

Inara is looking pretty interesting
Patience Thu 17:02

just now you've hoped on the HM
Inara Thu 17:03

his reaction, hint for every roles, claimed to be HM, reveal his visit wrong, happen to miss a night on the night he was stalked
Thu 17:03

I wanted to use him as a protection from his own kind. for example if he's a wolf, wolf wont kill jubal (to make him lit)
Thu 17:04

but with his situation, his own kind wants to get rid of him I think =))
Thu 17:04

I never trusted him as a HM
Patience Thu 17:04

IF Lawrence is now VM then there're 2 potential fams: Badger and Caron
Thu 17:04

Badger might be more likely
Inara Thu 17:04

I dont think he's VM, i think he's original evil
Thu 17:04

with N5 and N6's recruitment, everyone could be
Thu 17:05

but I believe one of the recruitment was one between caron and mingo
Patience Thu 17:05

his reaction today sounds really like Lenore...!
Inara Thu 17:05

can you read back to see who's supporting who?
Thu 17:05

with river + mingo or caron + 1 more fam only
Monty Thu 17:05

Guys, you never stop talkin, do U?
Inara Thu 17:06

nope, we wont, you should join
Thu 17:06

did you get any recruitment?
Thu 17:06

MY LAST DECISION: LAWRENCE
Patience Thu 17:06

I think if someone is believed to be VM now then we should lynch them, because the next fam could be fam militia and the killing power is insane
Inara Thu 17:07

we dont know for sure who is VM now
Thu 17:07

I'd love to lynch VM ofcuz
Patience Thu 17:07

yes, not sure
Monty Thu 17:07

Mingo is so sus for me, bc of mrU and the visit
Patience Thu 17:07

but we need to gather to voting one person only
Inara Thu 17:08

yeb, agree monty
Patience Thu 17:08

we do think so Monty
Inara Thu 17:08

but so far we didnt sure about mingo or caron, but I trust caron a little bit more than mingo
Thu 17:08

but with me, Lawrence was a SURE
Thu 17:08

what do you guys think?
Patience Thu 17:09

oh wait, why Badger is voting Lawrence?
Mingo Thu 17:09

"the visit"
Inara Thu 17:09

at the moment, Caron's vote is on Mingo. and mingo's is on Fanty
Thu 17:10

why couldnt he?
Thu 17:10

with covens and wolves around, the village needs vote on a person only
Thu 17:10

@Pat, Mingo, Monty: can you vote Lawrence?
Mingo Thu 17:11

Patience, did you reveal today's check yet?
Inara Thu 17:11

yes
Thu 17:11

oh not yet
DrCaron Thu 17:11

Uuuugh. I think we have Mingo VM, Inara fam recruit last night
Thu 17:11

:(
Inara Thu 17:11

oh yes, monty visited stitch
Thu 17:12

caron, it's not helping
Thu 17:12

you're pointing at me because i dont vote at who you want
Thu 17:12

but if you take a larger look, you will see both you and mingo are in the same position (but like I said, I trust you more than Mingo, but not much)
Patience Thu 17:13

@Mingo i did
Inara Thu 17:13

while Lawrence is a sure to me (could be not with others)
Patience Thu 17:13

Monty visited Stitch
DrCaron Thu 17:13

I'm pointing at you because it's ridiculous that suddenly Mingo is engaged in the game, only to contradict one of the only people to be lit throughout the game and become active in the end game
Inara Thu 17:13

but with these number of pp who wouldnt come back, we need all votes on the same person
DrCaron Thu 17:13

And you're not even trying to see how odd any of it is
Inara Thu 17:14

if you look larger, you will see the village could see you recruited last night and wanted to throw shades on Mingo
Thu 17:14

anw, if you're a villager, you should think as other villagers too
Thu 17:14

not only you
Thu 17:14

you believe in yourself -> you see its obv that mingo lied
DrCaron Thu 17:14

um. . . I didn't mention Mingo, Inara
Thu 17:14

He contradicted me
Inara Thu 17:15

but with other villager's view, we will see you and him are both unsure
Thu 17:15

that's why I offer a check (but not really believe it would be successed
Patience Thu 17:16

ok I've also decided
Moderator Thu 17:16

Patience votes to lynch Lawrence
Patience Thu 17:16

Caron, I'm pretty much believe in you and believe Mingo is lying
Inara Thu 17:16

Mingo contradicted you last night, and pointed out that river visited mrU on the same night vamp did. 1st phrase can be explained that you lied. 2nd phrase can be explain that vamp fam wanted to do so for the village to think they are not in the same team
Patience Thu 17:17

but I think Lawrence is even more sure
Inara Thu 17:17

different point of view = different idea
Thu 17:17

but I'm pretty sure about Lawrence, you should join me, Caron
Patience Thu 17:17

Mingo would probably be tomorrow's lynch
Inara Thu 17:17

It's now balance
Thu 17:17

we need more votes
DrCaron Thu 17:18

When did mingo contradict me yesterday (I'm having a horrible day irl, and my mind is not really in the game right now, sorry)
Thu 17:18

Not voting Lawrence over Mingo, sorry guys
Inara Thu 17:19

HERE IS THE PLAN: PATIENCE, BADGER, you guys choose to stalk Mingo or not, could be one of you two stalk, could be both, could be none. CARON stalk Mingo pls
DrCaron Thu 17:19

I'm not stalker
Inara Thu 17:19

I mean harlot
Thu 17:20

and Mingo pls behold Jubal
DrCaron Thu 17:20

What exactly does this plan prove?
Inara Thu 17:20

Protector: do what you think the best
Thu 17:20

it proves you
DrCaron Thu 17:21

Nobody on me?
Inara Thu 17:21

if you're lit, mingo lied
Thu 17:21

if you lied, Mingo was lit and can bring info from Jubal
Thu 17:21

Protector could choose one of you two: CARON OR MINGO
DrCaron Thu 17:21

As long as Jubal is lit. . .
Patience Thu 17:21

no, Caron should harlot on Jubal
JubalEarly Thu 17:21

Get badger or Patience on Mingo, the other on DrC
DrCaron Thu 17:22

I wanted to harlot Jubal
Patience Thu 17:22

Jubal is now vulnerable, harlot is also a way to protect peoples
Inara Thu 17:22

Patience: then it wont be a check anymore. but i agree
Patience Thu 17:22

yep
Inara Thu 17:22

ok
Patience Thu 17:22

but we need to finalize about who to lynch first
Inara Thu 17:22

mingo behold jubal, caron harlot jubal???
Thu 17:22

I want to go for lawrence
Thu 17:23

Caron, dont you want to get things clear?
DrCaron Thu 17:23

I'd much rather Mingo since, from my perspective, it's a sure thing
JubalEarly Thu 17:23

omg... am I the deciding viote...
Thu 17:23

vote*
Inara Thu 17:23

Fanty or Lawrence, one of them pls
DrCaron Thu 17:23

(I do not trust Larry, but I have no evidence)
JubalEarly Thu 17:23

MonTY!
Inara Thu 17:23

but Mingo pointed fanty out, so if mingo is an evil, then fanty is just a sacrisfation
JubalEarly Thu 17:23

Where is monty vote at?
Inara Thu 17:24

mingo
DrCaron Thu 17:24

Did anyone have to actually point Fanty out?
Patience Thu 17:24

Monty hasn't shown up today
Inara Thu 17:24

only mingo
Monty Thu 17:24

I think we got more solid evidence on Mingo, but also hes easier to prove wrong bc he has to guess
Patience Thu 17:24

guysss
Inara Thu 17:24

he did,
DrCaron Thu 17:24

Monty was here
Monty Thu 17:24

I have shown up, but U keep typing, can't keep up
Patience Thu 17:24

oh sorry Monty i mistake you with fanty ^^
Inara Thu 17:25

Monty, Caron, pls make up your mind
Patience Thu 17:25

i mean fanty hasn't
DrCaron Thu 17:25

I choose Mingo
Thu 17:25

Sorry guys, but it's the way it is
Monty Thu 17:25

Was Mingo ever stalked?
Inara Thu 17:25

Caron, even now you vote mingo
Patience Thu 17:25

@Monty and I double Lawrence is now VM, so he's dangerous
Inara Thu 17:25

you can lynch him
Thu 17:25

we dont agree with you
DrCaron Thu 17:25

Inara, he's the one I know is evil 100%
Thu 17:25

it's a good lynch
Inara Thu 17:26

we WONT LYNCH MINGO TONIGHT
DrCaron Thu 17:26

Well, then you can lynch elsewhere
Thu 17:26

Yell it, gurl
Inara Thu 17:26

pls dont make me repeat
Thu 17:26

We need all villager in a target
Monty Thu 17:26

guys, was Mingo seen visiting?
Inara Thu 17:26

still puppets around
DrCaron Thu 17:26

Sure are
Patience Thu 17:26

@Monty no stalkers on Mingo
DrCaron Thu 17:26

I don't think so, Monty
Monty Thu 17:26

So he could shift.
DrCaron Thu 17:27

You think 2 SS?
Patience Thu 17:27

2 SSs in this game would be too much
Thu 17:27

i don't buy 2 SS
DrCaron Thu 17:27

I think Mingo is VM and not wolf
Thu 17:27

Well, maybe wolf, I don't know
Inara Thu 17:27

Caron is making herself sus by being so desired to lynch Mingo. If she is a villager, she should think of the whole game, not only lynching who is believed to be an evil but others dont
Patience Thu 17:27

do you feel Mingo sound like Lenore? Caron
DrCaron Thu 17:27

But it looks like Inara might be covering for mingo (maybe not, but from my point of view. . .)
Inara Thu 17:27

2 SS is possbile in this setup, Patience
Patience Thu 17:27

I think Lawrence sounds like Lenore more
DrCaron Thu 17:28

Mingo talked more today than ever before
Inara Thu 17:28

agree
Thu 17:28

I have to go
DrCaron Thu 17:28

All of a sudden, he's engaged in the game and has relevant info?
Inara Thu 17:28

Caron, can you pls just follow the plan and vote on lawrence
Thu 17:28

I'm really tired
DrCaron Thu 17:28

Nope
Thu 17:28

G'night
Inara Thu 17:28

Mingo has 2 votes, fanty 3, and lawrence 3
DrCaron Thu 17:28

I really think Mingo and Inara are a team, honestly
Thu 17:29

Okay
Inara Thu 17:29

no way you can lynch mingo tonight without a better evidence
DrCaron Thu 17:29

There are 10 people alive, that's not my problem
Inara Thu 17:29

and it wasnt the way I saw you playing this game.
DrCaron Thu 17:29

"better evidence"
Thu 17:29

as opposed to that evidence for larry?
Inara Thu 17:29

Caron used to be more .... contributing and thinking for the village
DrCaron Thu 17:29

Inara, we have a confirmed evil
Thu 17:30

I've been lit the entire game, and I'm a bad shift target
Inara Thu 17:30

He hinted every roles, came up with HM, failed to reveal his protection
Thu 17:30

You could be recruited last night
DrCaron Thu 17:30

So could you
Inara Thu 17:30

yes
DrCaron Thu 17:30

which seems more likely
Inara Thu 17:30

so, with the village, mingo's evil isnt a 100%
Thu 17:31

lawrence and fanty sounds more evils
Monty Thu 17:31

I found Lawrence typing odd today. Maybe Lenor compensating?
DrCaron Thu 17:31

I hhave very specific personality traits and a very unique linguistic style thanks to my nationality
Inara Thu 17:31

I compared it too
DrCaron Thu 17:31

It's not something easily faked
Patience Thu 17:31

@Monty that's exactly how I feel
Inara Thu 17:31

not really sure, but he typed differnetly
Patience Thu 17:31

Lawrence today sounds like Lenore
Thu 17:31

not like Lawrence yesterday
Inara Thu 17:31

agree
DrCaron Thu 17:31

*sigh*
Inara Thu 17:31

I need to go, I hate you Caron
Monty Thu 17:31

Also, apologizing after being rude, thats sus for me
DrCaron Thu 17:32

haha, lovely
Patience Thu 17:32

I understand why Caron does that, and I won't try to convince Caron to change her vote
Thu 17:32

but I count on other people
Thu 17:32

@Monty who do you mean?
Monty Thu 17:33

@Patience he said sorry after rambling.
DrCaron Thu 17:34

Has he spoken enough in the past to even compare anything?
Thu 17:34

He was definitely more active today than before also
Thu 17:35

Again, I don't trust Larry at all, that's not the issue for me
Patience Thu 17:35

@Caron, I promise, unless there's something really breaking happens tomorrow that really changes what we've known so far on who is who, else tomorrow i will surely lynch Mingo
DrCaron Thu 17:35

it's that I have 100% confirmation on Mingo
Patience Thu 17:36

@Monty @Jubal have you guys made up your minds?
Thu 17:36

pls make a decision
Moderator Thu 17:37

Monty votes to lynch Lawrence
Monty Thu 17:38

But we really need to follow this up, I think Caron is lit
Patience Thu 17:38

I think the same
DrCaron Thu 17:42

TMW Jubal is puppet and wont put his vote in a place to reveal himself
Thu 17:42

Oh, was he stalked?
Thu 17:42

Who hasn't been stalked?
Patience Thu 17:43

hmm reading back a bit I feel Lawrence today is less different from Lawrence yesterday than i thought just now...
DrCaron Thu 17:44

I didn't think he was too different, just more active
Patience Thu 17:44

but still sounds like Lenore XD
DrCaron Thu 17:45

I need to look at something, I'll be cack in a few
Thu 17:48

Eh, nothing like I was hoping
Thu 17:48

cack?
JubalEarly Thu 17:50

Pfft
Thu 17:50

How am I puppet
DrCaron Thu 17:51

As a tip, when I use TMW, i'm usually tinfoil hat joking
JubalEarly Thu 17:51

Lawrence pretty much more active than usual
DrCaron Thu 17:51

But it would be hilarious if it's true
JubalEarly Thu 17:51

LOL!
Thu 17:52

I hope one day it may be that but this ext will not make your wish come true
Thu 17:52

Yeah I realized that you use tmw alot
Patience Thu 17:53

what's it acronym for?
Mingo Thu 17:53

That moment when...
JubalEarly Thu 17:53

Damn Im questiioning wash on nandi,i can only know post game
Patience Thu 17:53

ok thanks
JubalEarly Thu 17:53

Okay so what is the plan now
Thu 17:53

I dig whoever I wanna dig
Thu 17:54

Harlot on me
Thu 17:54

Prot on who
Thu 17:54

Stalkers
Patience Thu 17:54

prot on me pls XD
JubalEarly Thu 17:54

beholder on me
DrCaron Thu 17:55

Prot gon prot
Thu 17:55

if there's prot
Patience Thu 17:55

btw Mingo why are you voting Fanty, when you should have been sure Caron is evil?
Mingo Thu 17:55

Patience, because I voted Fanty this morning when he was the only evil and I've not changed my vote
JubalEarly Thu 17:55

Stalkers need a good stalking moment.
Moderator Thu 17:56

JubalEarly votes to lynch Lawrence
JubalEarly Thu 17:56

Gawd.. another rebirth if Lenore is really in Lawrence
Thu 17:56

nevcerending!~
Mingo Thu 17:56

Can I point something out
Thu 17:56

Sorry, this just occurred to me
Thu 17:57

We have a claim of Lawrence visiting last night, don't we?
DrCaron Thu 17:57

I just don't see lawrence as VM
Thu 17:57

if he's evil, I'd think coven
Mingo Thu 17:57

So he can't be Lenore, because his visit would have been lethal?
DrCaron Thu 17:57

Who saw that visit?
Mingo Thu 17:58

Didn't someone say that?
DrCaron Thu 17:58

Also, recruit is likely for last night, I think
Patience Thu 17:58

badger did
Thu 17:58

i've talked about this several times already
Mingo Thu 17:58

Badger [Thu 10:24] I followed Lawrence [Thu 10:25] Lawrence visited Dr. C
DrCaron Thu 17:58

Oh, duh, yes!
Mingo Thu 17:59

So, the only way Lawrence is Lenore is if he.. wait
Patience Thu 17:59

that's why I think 2 possible fams are Badger and... Caron
Mingo Thu 17:59

if he recruited DrCaron
DrCaron Thu 17:59

I missed it several times and when i wanted to talk about it, I got distracted!
Mingo Thu 17:59

>.<
DrCaron Thu 17:59

Did badger state that before Mingo said anything?
Thu 18:00

I saw Larry say he visited me, but missed badger
JubalEarly Thu 18:00

Wait, recruitment doesnt mean lethal visit
DrCaron Thu 18:00

No
Patience Thu 18:00

if not VM, which role do you guys think it could be?
DrCaron Thu 18:00

Who initially put Lawrence into the line of fire?
Thu 18:00

He might be lit
Thu 18:01

I mean, he's shady as hell
JubalEarly Thu 18:01

I think Badger stated his check first
Thu 18:01

I didnt look back
Thu 18:01

okay somebody do the honor
DrCaron Thu 18:02

I think I have claims confused in my head
Thu 18:03

What did Tracey claim (I didn't write anything down, I'm super sorry)
Patience Thu 18:03

prot
DrCaron Thu 18:03

And Lawrence said HM, right?
Patience Thu 18:03

yup
DrCaron Thu 18:04

Yeah, we may actually be lynching a shady HM
Thu 18:04

If Badger is lit, which I think he may be, he did see Larry visit me
Thu 18:04

Larry confirmed
Thu 18:05

Who pushed to lynch Lawrence originally?
Patience Thu 18:05

do you guys think it's possible to have all prot + HM + harlot in a game? I'm not very experienced about possible setups
DrCaron Thu 18:05

The other option is that Badger and lawrence are evil team, but can't be VM
Patience Thu 18:05

I pushed him to claim, then after a sketchy af claim we decided to keep votes on him
DrCaron Thu 18:06

There are several options
Thu 18:06

Hmm
Thu 18:06

It's entirely possible that mingo saw all of this info and found a good opportunity to throw shade on me
Patience Thu 18:06

problem is if we keep him alive tomorrow how would we verify him?
DrCaron Thu 18:07

We can't "verify" him, but we can stalk him
Thu 18:07

I'd be VERY shocked if we had all 3 protection based roles and they were all still alive on D7, though
Patience Thu 18:08

what if he's a newly recruited fam... hmm
Thu 18:08

...and almost no protection on point... except N4
DrCaron Thu 18:08

Wait. . . is this a Storm setup?
Thu 18:08

Yeah
Patience Thu 18:08

I'm thinking about Tracey, today he's weird af
Thu 18:08

might be recruited
DrCaron Thu 18:13

He's been quiet all game, which would make him an ideal target for hopping
Thu 18:13

There are way too many variables, and I'm just getting super frustrated as this game goes on
Thu 18:14

Definitely feeling outnumbered today, which is disparaging
Thu 18:15

Lawrence could be stalker fam (coincidence of rolling that many stalker fams?)
Thu 18:15

Could be lit hm
Thu 18:15

What coven roles visit besides killing and Alch?
Thu 18:16

I wasn't swapped, wasn't role fucked, and wasn't blocked
Thu 18:16

Or Badger isn't lit and they're on a team
Patience Thu 18:16

hmm I've started thinking about moving votes to Mingo...
DrCaron Thu 18:17

We'd need a couple more to follow, though
Patience Thu 18:17

@Monty @Jubal how do you think?
DrCaron Thu 18:17

We can't not lynch
Thu 18:18

Either villagers are gone, or evils are lurking
Moderator Thu 18:18

Patience votes to lynch Mingo
DrCaron Thu 18:18

They might be high fiving an HM lynch right now
Patience Thu 18:18

still don't think he's HM, but...
DrCaron Thu 18:19

Badger is voting him, too
Thu 18:20

I don't think a team member would do that and not check back in
Thu 18:21

No evidence of BL in the game, we assume BH is dead, no RB, shift already occurred
Patience Thu 18:22

now I think Tracey might be the VM
DrCaron Thu 18:22

I don't know what else Lawrence could be besides stalker fam or lit
Patience Thu 18:22

a perfect target for recruiting
DrCaron Thu 18:23

Tracey really was a great choice for recruit, since he had no discernable personality and didn't speak enough to compare
Thu 18:23

but we don't want a lynch and hop
Thu 18:23

Mingo is still the best lynch, but nobody will come back to change
Patience Thu 18:23

yes i don't suggest a lynch for tracey right now
DrCaron Thu 18:24

So maybe Mingo and Inara are coven?
Patience Thu 18:25

i guess Inara is lit
Thu 18:25

Nandi was taken down yesterday
DrCaron Thu 18:25

Inara's behavior today was aggressively anti-logic when it came to Mingo, though
Thu 18:25

Witch kill
Thu 18:25

Always possible
Thu 18:26

she could be lit, too, I just don't like how aggresively she was pushing me away from Mingo
Patience Thu 18:26

possible, but the way she try to contribute to the village seems villagey (my feeling)
DrCaron Thu 18:27

I also don't think her plan is terribly sound, honestly
Thu 18:27

but that's ot a big deal
Thu 18:27

Plans rarely are
Thu 18:27

not*
Thu 18:28

I miss Wash :(
Patience Thu 18:28

I'll check back before nightfall
DrCaron Thu 18:29

All right
Patience Thu 18:30

@Monty @Jubal pls consider moving your votes
Thu 18:31

sorry for changing my opinion and moving my vote around, but currently I think Mingo is a better lynch
DrCaron Thu 18:33

This is one of those games in which I'd give my left tit for a TR
JubalEarly Thu 18:38

I fell asleep yo
Thu 18:38

It's ungodly hr now
Thu 18:38

What do you gusy want now?
DrCaron Thu 18:39

We want to lynch Mingo
Thu 18:39

As usual today
JubalEarly Thu 18:39

Make up your mind.
DrCaron Thu 18:39

I've had my mind made up all day
JubalEarly Thu 18:39

I think i stay true to what I say, lynch whoever, i do my job
DrCaron Thu 18:39

9all of MY day, at least)
JubalEarly Thu 18:39

Just that I dislike being oush
Patience Thu 18:39

sorry Jubal, but I changed my mind to Mingo, and probably this is the final one
Moderator Thu 18:39

JubalEarly votes to lynch Mingo
Patience Thu 18:40

great, thanks, I will check back before nightfall for Monty's vote
DrCaron Thu 18:40

With a 3 way tie, though, I'm extremely nervous
Patience Thu 18:40

pls check back then too Jubal, we don't want evil ruining the lynch in last minutes
DrCaron Thu 18:40

Monty NEEDS to show up
JubalEarly Thu 18:41

Okay, i try to wake up
Thu 18:41

Just for tonight.
DrCaron Thu 18:42

Aww, I won't make anyone stay up late or wake up early ever, because I know how that is
Thu 18:42

If you need to sleep, jubal, go for it
Thu 18:42

We'll manage
Mingo Thu 18:52

Patience, why do you think I'm a better lynch?
Patience Thu 19:51

because your intel conflicts
DrCaron Thu 19:52

We can't not lynch. . .
Thu 19:52

This is shit
Patience Thu 19:52

DrCaron, i'm afraid i have to move the vote back to ensure a lynch...
DrCaron Thu 19:52

Can we lynch Fanty?
Thu 19:52

I'm afraid of that 1% chance lawrence is HM
Thu 19:52

If not, i understand
Patience Thu 19:52

Mingo, tracey, and lawrence are voting fanty
DrCaron Thu 19:53

I'd rather not change my vote, obviously
Thu 19:53

Oh, ugh
Patience Thu 19:53

all the evil we're suspecting
JubalEarly Thu 19:53

Im up..
Thu 19:53

still for balance?
Mingo Thu 19:53

On the other hand, what do we lose by lynching Fanty?
Patience Thu 19:54

yes :(
Mingo Thu 19:54

He's contributed so much this game...
Thu 19:54

And a coven is better than nothing
DrCaron Thu 19:54

Will fanty be smited?
Thu 19:54

No, he did asv, yesterday, right?
Patience Thu 19:54

Mingo, this makes you even more sus
Mingo Thu 19:54

Yes, he voted yesterday
Patience Thu 19:54

you accuse DrCaron lying, but still voting for fanty?
Mingo Thu 19:54

Patience, what, for wanting someone I know is evil dead?
Thu 19:55

Patience, I'll vote for DrCaron if I think there's a rational chance of us lynching her
DrCaron Thu 19:55

I would imagine Lawrence is voting Fanty as a counter from himself
Mingo Thu 19:56

And as I said, I placed my vote many hours ago and just haven't moved it
DrCaron Thu 19:56

I would prefer fanty to lawrence, honestly
Patience Thu 19:56

ugh... i feel like following evil's plan with that
Thu 19:56

it could be a wasted lynch
DrCaron Thu 19:56

Yeah, i get that, too
Thu 19:56

Definitely could be
JubalEarly Thu 19:57

le sigh
DrCaron Thu 19:57

3 minutes
Mingo Thu 19:57

Lynch Fanty, hopefully Jubal decides to dig him, prove me correct, everyone wins
DrCaron Thu 19:57

Patience or Jubal, one of you move
Thu 19:57

not both
Mingo Thu 19:57

except the evils, but fuck them
DrCaron Thu 19:57

We'll either get a lynch, or we'll have a puppet pool
Moderator Thu 19:58

Patience votes to lynch Lawrence
DrCaron Thu 19:58

Okay, let's see what happens
Thu 19:58

Super sorry, larry, if you're lit!
Patience Thu 19:58

wish that's not a wrong decision...
JubalEarly Thu 19:59

im just staring at my ohone half asleep. dont knownwhat for
Fanty Thu 20:00

Sorry, was busy today. Just going to asv for today
Lynched Thu 20:00

Lawrence was lynched by the village
Killed Fri 08:00

Mingo was killed during the night

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