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Rubick Tue 09:19

no one died?
Tue 09:19

good morning!
Tusk Tue 09:37

GOOOD MORNING!
Rubick Tue 10:58

going to cast anti-smite spell on myself
Moderator Tue 10:58

Rubick votes to lynch Clinkz
Tiny Tue 11:35

morning! wow No victim!
Sven Tue 11:35

Tiny you didnt get your name for your nose being tiny. your nose is huge!
Rubick Tue 11:38

so that means prot was spot on?
Tue 11:38

or that ww forgot to kill somebody
Lion Tue 12:23

Morninggggg
Tue 12:24

What a great night then
Tue 12:25

Should we say thanks to Prot? Or the Wolves forgot to hunt?
Moderator Tue 12:30

Tiny votes to lynch Lich
Clinkz Tue 12:58

No dead? :D
Tue 12:59

I think it's a protect, or wolves just derped\
Tue 12:59

But I assume protect
Lich Tue 13:00

Noooo ;-;
Tue 13:01

No one died last night
Tusk Tue 13:01

You're not happy sir Lich?
Lich Tue 13:02

Yes ;-;
Tusk Tue 13:02

why
Lich Tue 13:02

Iwas being villagery af last night
Tue 13:03

Maybe prot protected me ;-;
Clinkz Tue 13:04

If so, why should that be a bad thing?
Lich Tue 13:04

Well just suicidal anyway, im not that important
Clinkz Tue 13:05

Well at least no one died. So I see it as a good thing
Lich Tue 13:05

Yeah
Tue 13:06

Prot should come out to say who he protected last night
Clinkz Tue 13:06

Why??
Tue 13:06

That way wolves would know who to kill
Lich Tue 13:07

... Protector cant protect the same guy again
Clinkz Tue 13:07

So?
Lich Tue 13:07

If wolvws hit the protected guy last night, he would be dead anyway
Tue 13:07

Dead tonight*
Clinkz Tue 13:08

Yes. but I don;t see why protector should come out for that reason?
Lich Tue 13:08

Wolves already knew that, if thay did vote someone
Tue 13:08

To clear somebody?
Clinkz Tue 13:08

But you just said he would be dead anyways..
Tue 13:08

Well I'll hear what other people hjave to say about this
Lich Tue 13:09

At least we will know that person is innocent, maybe both prot and that person
Clinkz Tue 13:10

I get that, but I thing the protector coming out would be worse for village than a confirmed villager
Lich Tue 13:10

Wolves cant kill themselves yknow
Clinkz Tue 13:10

Duh
Lich Tue 13:10

He can protect himself?
Clinkz Tue 13:10

Yes. but not the night aft er that
Lich Tue 13:11

How will the wolves know he protected himself or not ;)
Clinkz Tue 13:11

Well I think we have different opinions on the matter, I'll have what other have to say
Rubick Tue 13:18

hmmm.. I don't know. Protector should just wait a bit. still too early to reveal with this many people. BTW, good job on the protect!
Slardar Tue 13:19

Morning! Awesome! Yeah dunno if Protector should come out if it's for someone else, esp if it really was Lich? :P
Rubick Tue 13:21

gotta sleep. I hope I can wake up in time before nightfall
Tue 13:21

good night!
Clinkz Tue 13:25

G'night!
Tiny Tue 13:51

＞Sven hahaha i agree with ya��
Tue 14:02

＞to everyone who do you think werewolf is？
Tue 14:14

I know there are very few factors, but it'll make discussion more active.
Tue 14:21

Just a example, Lich's expression in this mornin' is sad face with No one died. it seems not a villager-side feeling.
Tue 14:24

yes I know if protector cannot protect same person, werewolf can try to kill same person
Tue 14:29

☝︎like this. with not obvious proof is OK. we can see who has a connection with whom
Tusk Tue 14:31

Hmm I found Lichs reaction weird too, but maybe a bit too obvious?
Moderator Tue 14:34

Tinker votes to lynch Lich
Tinker Tue 14:35

Lich sad about no deaths and wants protector to reveal himself. That's enough for me to lynch him.
Tue 14:36

Plus, wimpy explanation (assuming that means he is going to die because he was villagery af yesterday.)
Tue 14:37

Protector, do not reveal yourself, it doesn't make any sense to do so.
Lich Tue 15:03

Wow, doesnt make sense?
Tue 15:04

Can give me a reason to explain last night's no death, other than the prot protected the right guy?
Tue 15:06

And please dont give me the wolves were inactive excuse, 11 voted, and the only one who didnt vote talked a lot
Tue 15:09

Protector reveal the prorection is the best move im telling ya, thats why im pushing for the protector
Tue 15:10

Isnt it obvious that i was sad because i thought i was a target, some just exploired the idea im being wolf and frame me
Tinker Tue 15:33

I understand that if the protector protected himself, it would make sense to reveal.
Tue 15:33

He knows he is going to die tonight anyways, he may as well tell the village his role.
Tue 15:33

As it stands, the protector did his job, admirably and slowed the wolves down.
Tue 15:34

If he reveals himself all he does is expose himself to being killed by the wolves.
Tue 15:36

I agree with you that the protector protected the target the wolves attacked, that doesn't by any means mean the protector should come forward.
Tue 15:38

It wasn't obvious why you were sad. That's why people immediately asked you. Every VILLAGER was happy about the lack of deaths.
Lich Tue 15:48

I guess i'm not your typical villager who should be happy about the night without death
Moderator Tue 15:49

Tusk votes to lynch Tinker
Tusk Tue 15:49

You really try to lynch him for that?
Moderator Tue 15:49

Meepo votes to lynch Clinkz
Meepo Tue 15:49

still early
Tue 15:49

so imma balance
Tue 15:50

sorry for not being on y'all had an exam and now i have lunch plans
Tusk Tue 15:50

I find it ok to ask why he used this smile
Tue 15:50

but it's weird to push it that far.
Tinker Tue 15:57

Anyone defending Lich is suspicious.
Tue 15:58

Think about Lich's logic people.
Tusk Tue 15:58

That's your opinion
Tinker Tue 15:58

if you can't figure out why he is obviously a wolf, I'll explain it to you.
Tusk Tue 15:58

please do so, I'm new to this game.
Tinker Tue 15:59

Lich, thinks he was so villagery yesterday that he must have been the one attacked.
Tue 15:59

But nobody died.
Lich Tue 15:59

Wow @Tinker i never thought you are suspicious, until now
Tinker Tue 15:59

Because the victim was protected.
Tue 16:00

Which Lich was sad about.
Lich Tue 16:00

If im wolf i will never be that stupid to express my emotion like that
Tinker Tue 16:00

But if the victim weren't protected, the victim would be dead.
Lich Tue 16:00

exploiting the emoticon just makes you more a wolf
Tinker Tue 16:00

So Lich expected to be attacked and would therefore be dead.
Tue 16:00

But is sad that nobody died because it means he will die tonight.
Lich Tue 16:01

Then why would i want to prot to come out and say who did he protected???
Tinker Tue 16:01

So, somehow it is sadder for him to die tomorrow than to be dead this morning.
Lich Tue 16:01

If im wolf i've already know who he protected
Tue 16:01

what's the point in asking
Tue 16:01

You're being stupid i must say
Tinker Tue 16:01

RIGHT, YOU WANT TO KNOW WHO THE PROTECTOR IS!!!!
Lich Tue 16:02

Didnt i say the protector can protect himself?
Tue 16:02

Am i make myself not clear?
Tinker Tue 16:02

That is the only situation in which it makes sense for the protector to come out.
Tue 16:03

But usually protector self-protects n1 and n3, not n2.
Lich Tue 16:03

I say if he protected someone else last night, he can come out because that person is dead anyway, at least we will know 2 more innocent men
Tue 16:04

He can protect himself if it makes him a target for the wolves
Tue 16:05

The point is, those wolves knew who they were trying to kill
Tue 16:06

So prot only make himself a burden for the village if he hides his protection
Tinker Tue 16:06

People can argue about whether or not it makes sense for the protector to come out when his protected target gets attacked. I personally feel strongly that the protector should remain anonymous, because if the wolves never know when he dies, they never know when they can safely attack the revealed seer or other revealed roles.
Tue 16:07

I admit, people can have difference of opinion on that matter.
Lich Tue 16:07

Can you answer this question: why was there no death last night?
Tinker Tue 16:07

Yes, duh, protector saved someone.
Lich Tue 16:07

Can the prot protect the same guy again?
Tusk Tue 16:08

not tonight
Lich Tue 16:08

that's right
Tusk Tue 16:08

fun fact, it's every other protect, not every other night :P
Tue 16:08

So if you miss a protect you still can't protect the same person next night :P
Lich Tue 16:08

if that person is kept anonymous, what is the chance of that person is killed again tonight
Tue 16:10

And how would you judge somebody who you knows a person is village aligned (wolves can't kill each other at night), but you choose to let him die anyway
Tue 16:10

Because of some stupid logic only wolves can come with, and you follow
Tue 16:11

And some more questions:
Tue 16:11

What is the benefit for me if im a wolf and i push for the prot to come out?
Tue 16:12

I assume i know who i killed and that person didnt die, i would just keep myself quiet and kill that guy again
Tinker Tue 16:12

Get rid of the protector, that way you can kill revealed village roles the same night that they reveal.
Tue 16:12

Lich expected to be attacked today (because he was villagery af). Was sad to see no deaths because that meant he was protected and will be dying tomorrow. So, he was sad that he will be dying tomorrow rather than today.
Tue 16:13

That is his explanation.
Tue 16:13

It makes no sense, but Tusk is on board.
Tue 16:13

Lynch Lich, then Tusk.
Lich Tue 16:13

Wow wow
Tue 16:13

Make no sense
Tue 16:13

i have to laugh a bit
Tinker Tue 16:13

Agreed, but that's what you've said.
Lich Tue 16:15

You're so eager on lynching, not even sure if the person you lynch is a wolf or a villager, and no way to know because there's no GD
Tue 16:15

Only benefits the wolves i must say
Tinker Tue 16:15

If I were random lynching, I would be more likely to hit village than wolf. This isn't random though, this is based on behavior.
Lich Tue 16:16

Guess what: behavior suggests that you are a wolf who is trying to frame me for giving out a different emoticon
Tue 16:16

I never say it is random, you made that up by yourself
Tinker Tue 16:19

You keep emphasizing the emoticon, I keep emphasizing your explanation and you wanting the protector to reveal himself.
Lich Tue 16:21

Okay so let me repeat what i said, i hope you can handle it without trying to find a weak spot and exploit it i have never use logic in my life
Tue 16:21

And please don't interrupt until i say im done
Tue 16:22

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Tue 16:23

Last night there was no death, two scenarios that could have happened: (1) wolves did not kill anyone, (2) protector protect the right guy
Tue 16:24

(1) is plain stupid for the wovles, unless they want to bait out the prot, which is also stupid because prot less important than the seer, wasting time finding the prot will keep the seer alive
Tue 16:25

unless they were inactive, which is impossible because 11 voted and only tinker did not vote, who talked a lot which means he was fairly active
Tue 16:25

so we move to (2): prot protected the right guy
Tue 16:26

Only wolves and the real protector know who was the target last night, and the rest of the village have no idea
Tue 16:28

Wolves will tend to keep the info a secret, since they know that person will not be protected, alpha can take care of that guy and can even take out some role that was found by the BH in the same day
Tue 16:29

will not be protected tonight*
Tue 16:30

if protector comes out and said that he protected someone else other than him, he can choose to protect himself tonight if it makes him a target for the wolves, and that someone else will most likely is dead tonight.
Tue 16:32

The point is he doesnt have to say who he will protect tonight, it will keep the wolves guessing (will he protect himself, will he protect someone else who is important?)
Tue 16:33

And the benefit for the village is that seer (if alive) will only have to choose from a smaller pool, if that was protected guy wasnt checked by the seer before
Tue 16:34

And the prot can clear himself (if he really is legit)
Tue 16:34

so that is like, 2 less checks
Tue 16:37

Tarot reader can see if the seer and the prot is alive or not by reading card, but it's not the optimal solution to use it tonight. Im not stopping you from doing anything anyway, choose your own action, do it if you want to.
Clinkz Tue 16:38

If the TR is still alive which is very likely then it may not be such a bad idea
Lich Tue 16:39

If the protector protected himself last night, he can choose to come out too, like i said before, less seer check, tarot reader can read if prot is legit or not. But he will more likely to be dead tonight.
Tue 16:42

And for me giving out a weird emoticon earlier today: I felt like i should be killed yesterday for suggesting good stuff (mason leader recruitmentacts like a clear by the Seer, and i know he is not dead: only 1 death night 1)
Tue 16:44

So no one died scared me a bit, as i assume i was being chose a target of last night
Tue 16:46

fk, my grammar is shit
Tue 16:48

as i assume i was chosen a target by wolves last night*
Tue 16:50

Done, i guess
Tue 16:51

I'll be happy to answer anything that is unclear or might go in a worse direction than what i'm suggesting
Meepo Tue 16:51

y'all wildin wtf
Tue 16:52

lich out here assuming that seer is still alive but prot is super likely to die tonight ?? smh
Lich Tue 16:54

Well the seer can be dead, and GD can confirm it later in the game
Tue 16:55

Like i said, if prot did not protect himself yet, he can choose to do it tonight if he thinks he will be a target for wolves
Meepo Tue 16:55

and u assume mason leader isn't dead
Lich Tue 16:56

only 1 person died, can that guy be the mason leader who can check the living, check the dead guy, read cards and protect someone at the same time?
Tue 16:57

No, only 1 died, so at least 4 village roles with power is alive
Meepo Tue 16:59

dude
Tue 16:59

no
Tue 16:59

at most 4 village roles r alive
Tue 16:59

mason leader could've died n1
Tue 16:59

seer could've died n1
Tue 16:59

gd could've died n1
Tue 16:59

tr couldve died n1
Tue 17:00

prot could've died n1
Lich Tue 17:02

so the normal villager can't die night 1, is that what you're saying?
Meepo Tue 17:04

ugh
Tue 17:04

sorry
Tue 17:04

miscounted
Tue 17:04

at most 5 village roles alive
Tue 17:05

yes a normal villager could die n1
Tue 17:05

but assume the worst my dude
Lich Tue 17:06

Okay i get it
Axe Tue 17:07

Good evening. That is really a long chat
Lich Tue 17:07

one more question i want to ask: why did you balance to vote on clinkz, not tinker? Does he seems village enough to you so that you don't vote him?
Axe Tue 17:09

I read quarter way & as far as I see this emoticon ";-;. isnt that a trademark of a player more than a sad emoticon? Why is it an issue? anyway carry on while i catch up
Tue 17:11

Lol @rubick - "going to cast anti-smite spell on myself" Moderator Rubick votes to put Clinkz on trial.
Meepo Tue 17:18

dude
Tue 17:18

i just went on whoever had a vote already
Tue 17:18

didn't matter who
Axe Tue 17:18

LOL @tinker what kind of logic is that? Those on board with Lich is suspicious, if you find 5 or more people on board with Lich, you're gonna lynch everyone? Both of you has point btw but there isnt a need to push that far
Tue 17:18

@meepo that is hazardous
Tue 17:18

for village
Tue 17:18

Bandwagonning
Meepo Tue 17:18

wdym
Tue 17:19

i was balancing
Axe Tue 17:19

Oh
Meepo Tue 17:19

bc it was like 6 hours before night or smth
Axe Tue 17:19

okay i didnt see that part
Tue 17:19

and lich qs on why you voted clink
Tue 17:26

This kind of setup with no harlot or stalker or GD is frustrating.
Tue 17:29

sorry GD is here
Tue 17:29

I re-read the roles again
Slark Tue 17:55

I get Lich's argument
Tue 17:56

If Prot protected some1 last night, he could come out, 2 less villagers for seer to check and more time for him
Tue 17:56

it's his choice tho
Tue 17:57

this assumes seer didn't die night 1, in that case we are fucked anyway
Tue 17:58

regardless of Prot's decision, I suggest we keep an eyes on both Lich and Tinker for the days to come
Tue 18:00

anti smite for now
Moderator Tue 18:00

Slark votes to lynch Meepo
Sven Tue 18:20

Linch have you played before? You asked about the protector being able to protect himself. But you explained the roles pretty well later on.
Tue 18:24

Lich sorry on my phone.
Tinker Tue 18:38

I acknowledge that there is an argument for protector revealing himself to marginally increase seer's odds of finding a wolf.
Tue 18:39

My belief is that it is more valuable for the protector to stay safely anonymous, so the wolves can't attack at night with impunity.
Tue 18:39

Lich did explain his justification for wanting the protector to reveal himself and I accept his explanation even though I don't agree with it.
Tue 18:40

I also don't care at all about any emoticons that people use. I won't try to interpret your emoticons for good or ill.
Tue 18:41

I still have issue with Lich's explanation for why he said Nooooo about their being no deaths last night.
Tue 18:42

He explained that he wasn't happy because he thought that maybe the prot protected him.
Tue 18:42

because he was "villager af" yesterday
Tue 18:43

That means that he assumed that if there had been a death it would have been his.
Tue 18:45

Why should he be upset about being protected? It doesn't make any sense.
Tue 18:49

Perhaps, I was too hasty to turn against Tusk.
Tue 18:50

I understand people are hesitant to lynch early in the game without enough information.
Tue 18:51

Also, it's not really fair to discourage people from engaging in discussion, by adding them to the lynch list for speaking their minds.
Tue 18:51

So, forgive me, Tusk.
Tue 18:51

Lich, also forgive me if you are really village.
Tue 18:52

But I don't believe that, so I will probably be hounding you until one of us or the other dies.
Tue 18:53

(Don't interpret me dying tonight as a sign that Lich is wolf, because that would be a really easy way to frame a villager if I am wrong about Lich.)
Slardar Tue 19:29

Hey damn today became way too busy. Lich looks wolfy with those massive paragraphs tbh
Tue 19:30

Although it's true prot coming out would reveal 2 good guys? !! Seems a bit dangerous
Tue 19:31

Is there any chance wolves refrained from killing and then pushed for the reveals today?
Tue 19:31

Idk what benefits would be of it but I believe I heard it suggested long ago
Tiny Tue 19:50

I wanted
Tue 19:54

about Lich was just an example for me. I think Lich's expression is too Obvious as wolf.
Tinker Tue 19:58

So, you find his explanation satisfactory?
Slardar Tue 19:58

Are we going to lynch anyone today? Since we had a lucky night and it's something for GD to do..
Tusk Tue 19:59

hmmm
Tue 19:59

for me the duel between Lich and Tinker seemed town vs town
Slardar Tue 20:01

Yeah idk about those although it'd give good info depending on who defended or pushed
Tue 20:01

I think if we consider lurks Lion spoke the least
Tusk Tue 20:02

apply some pressure?
Moderator Tue 20:02

Tusk votes to lynch Lion
Moderator Tue 20:02

Slardar votes to lynch Lion
Slardar Tue 20:02

Lioooooon
Tiny Tue 20:04

I understand what Lich wants to tell about. ppl who had protected might be kill tomorrow. I haven't understood Lich wanted the protector to come out.
Tusk Tue 20:05

can we get a vote more on lion for pressure?
Tue 20:05

lets see if he wakes up
Tiny Tue 20:07

Sorry, I mean I don't understand why Lich wanted the protector to come out.
Slardar Tue 20:07

If protector was on a plain villager it'd be a massive waste and suspicious to push for it.. we don't have any HM or harlot as backup for the person anyway, they're doomed
Tue 20:08

Though it'd be beneficial if it's the seer as we at least get the first 2 checks.. but still gonna be doomed
Tue 20:11

Actually knowing our luck it will be the seer and at the end of game we will cry
Tusk Tue 20:12

we need to put pressure on ppl.
Tue 20:12

seriously
Tue 20:12

no town has won with doing nothing
Slardar Tue 20:13

Yea definitely
Tusk Tue 20:17

plz someone vote lion
Tue 20:17

let's do something
Tinker Tue 20:20

bleh, fine
Moderator Tue 20:20

Tinker votes to lynch Lion
Tiny Tue 20:21

person who piggyback on pushing Lich is not Lich's side. It will help the seer and GD.
Moderator Tue 20:21

Tiny votes to lynch Lion
Sven Tue 20:27

There is good and bad about telling roles. Both made points that should be listened to
Tue 20:29

Any reason for lion? He only spoke once today
Meepo Tue 20:33

omfg
Tue 20:33

y'all bouta lynch lion bc he only said 3 lines ??
Tue 20:33

kids
Tue 20:33

its day 3 w no info
Tue 20:33

let him live
Clinkz Tue 20:34

Why are you so keen on letting him live?
Tue 20:34

This is just a way to push people to talk.
Tue 20:34

To avoid future inactives
Tiny Tue 20:37

is there any person say nothing today?
Tue 20:39

only Lion?
Rubick Tue 20:44

Good morning! Lion, reveal your role so we can determine if we would lynch you tonight or not.
Tue 20:46

I disagree with protector revealing now. He/she can be roleblocked then get killed.
Tue 20:48

Nvm. There's no direwolf in the game.
Lynched Tue 21:36

Lion was lynched by the village
Killed Wed 09:02

Meepo was killed during the night

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