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Ghost Thu 08:03

I'm honestly scared to talk every day first.
Jonsnow Thu 08:05

Ghost, are you a puppet?
Tywin Thu 08:06

I think it was Bronn
Thu 08:06

If you look at his Yolo claim
Thu 08:07

And it was him vs me
Thu 08:07

Ghost was on me as well... but
Ghost Thu 08:07

no im not
Thu 08:08

are you jon?
Jonsnow Thu 08:08

I'm not
Ghost Thu 08:08

was bronn?
Tywin Thu 08:08

Well at least one off the voters I me was a puppet
Thu 08:09

Bronn is my first pick
Jonsnow Thu 08:09

But yes, I agree with Tywin
Ghost Thu 08:09

mhm
Tywin Thu 08:09

Ghost was making no sense yesterday in some ways
Hound Thu 08:09

No one died? Man, give this prot a cookiest
Ghost Thu 08:09

???
Jonsnow Thu 08:09

Bronn seems likely, which indicates that maybe Mel was telling the truth
Hound Thu 08:09

Cookie*
Tywin Thu 08:10

His insistence of the Davos visit thing
Thu 08:10

And trusting Bronn with a fake claim....
Jonsnow Thu 08:10

I think Ghost was just being a doorbell
Tywin Thu 08:10

Poor play. Very anti village
Thu 08:11

Haha. Doorbell.
Thu 08:11

Could be it
Ghost Thu 08:11

get on my level
Tywin Thu 08:11

I'd like to think that Ghost you were not being malicious
Thu 08:12

But I've played this game too much
Hound Thu 08:12

I also have a feeling James Bronn is a puppet
Tywin Thu 08:12

And know how much you can influence people with nudges like that
Hound Thu 08:12

He didn't even bother to come up and defend himself
Tywin Thu 08:12

^
Thu 08:13

That play annoys me
Hound Thu 08:13

All he did was "lol, yolo" and it's surely a puppet play
Tywin Thu 08:13

Also for the record ghost. I wasn't serious with my wolf vote yesterday for you wok
Hound Thu 08:14

As i believe, coven have no way to get info\\\
Thu 08:14

So they sacrifice a pawn to get some
Qyburn Thu 08:14

Good morning village
Thu 08:14

I see the direwolf is still alive
Jonsnow Thu 08:14

...
Qyburn Thu 08:14

You say he's a doorbell
Thu 08:15

Okay
Jonsnow Thu 08:15

When would the Direwolf have died, Qyburn?
Qyburn Thu 08:15

I saw the votes last night and thought maybe Jon Snow or Bronn are puppets
Tywin Thu 08:15

Did you get a RB
Ghost Thu 08:15

lol
Qyburn Thu 08:16

I was not
Thu 08:16

Oh wait
Thu 08:16

Yes I was
Thu 08:16

How did you know?
Jonsnow Thu 08:17

I getting fed up of all this shitty rhetoric... "did anyone else see...", "I just noticed that I was... "," I see that..."
Ghost Thu 08:17

magic and good play. not like me
Qyburn Thu 08:17

Tywin bae
Thu 08:17

Tell me
Jonsnow Thu 08:19

Qyburn, wtf
Qyburn Thu 08:19

0_o what Snow?
Jonsnow Thu 08:20

How did you "see" the Direwolf was still alive if you didn't get role blocked?
Qyburn Thu 08:20

You've not been keeping up have you?
Thu 08:20

Every day I call Ghost a direwolf
Thu 08:21

He's your dog dammit
Jonsnow Thu 08:21

-_-
Qyburn Thu 08:21

So don't panic your lovely little self
Jonsnow Thu 08:22

I mean, I don't mind a bit of roleplay, but yesterday Oberyn claimed to have been role blocked
Qyburn Thu 08:22

I want to hear from Tywin
Thu 08:22

That's fine
Jonsnow Thu 08:22

So forgive me if when you say Direwolf I take it to be the role
Qyburn Thu 08:22

Tywin claimed vanillager
Thu 08:23

But now he's asking if i got RB
Thu 08:23

And I was... So how could he know?..
Thu 08:23

Strange thing to ask really... If he can't know
Jonsnow Thu 08:24

Just a guess here, maybe he made the same mistake that I did?
Qyburn Thu 08:24

What mistake?
Jonsnow Thu 08:25

That you saying the Direwolf was still alive meant you got role blocked...
Qyburn Thu 08:25

But then he's assuming my role
Jonsnow Thu 08:26

... No?
Thu 08:26

Everyone can be role blocked
Qyburn Thu 08:26

Sure he is
Jonsnow Thu 08:26

Even villagers
Qyburn Thu 08:26

But if he's confused like you
Thu 08:27

That I can't do something to stop direwolf being alive
Jonsnow Thu 08:27

I'm lost now
Qyburn Thu 08:27

He assumes I'm some role that can get rid of the direwolf
Thu 08:27

You see?
Jonsnow Thu 08:27

No
Qyburn Thu 08:27

OK
Jonsnow Thu 08:28

You said Direwolf was still alive, assumption is that you know this because you got role blocked
Qyburn Thu 08:30

So you got confused, he got confused. Both you think/thought I can see a direwolf. And if I say it's still there, it means that I was RB? So that means I'm disappointed that I couldn't kill the direwolf, or can't visit, or sth?
Thu 08:30

I don't know how to explain this
Jonsnow Thu 08:30

Do you understand what the Direwolf does?
Qyburn Thu 08:30

But I need to hear from Tywin
Thu 08:30

Yes
Thu 08:30

Hand on
Thu 08:31

I see what you mean
Thu 08:31

Forget the last minutes
Thu 08:31

It's early
Thu 08:33

Or remember them and someone can try to use it against me like I'm trying to put some blame on Tywin
Yara Thu 09:19

Good afternoon!
Qyburn Thu 09:40

Yara
Thu 09:40

Hi
Ghost Thu 10:15

Heya
Melisandre Thu 10:25

Hello
Thu 10:25

Its me
Thu 10:28

I checked Qyburn because I misclicked
Yara Thu 10:28

And what did your check said.
Melisandre Thu 10:28

No visit...
Thu 10:29

Im even more sus lol
Thu 10:29

I wanted to check Ramsay
Yara Thu 10:29

Well he did say that he was role blocked.
Melisandre Thu 10:29

Yeah
Ghost Thu 10:34

You missclicked?
Qyburn Thu 10:56

You must have made your decision at the last second...
Thu 10:57

Why all the interest on me last night?
Melisandre Thu 11:17

First, I clicked on Ghost, then Tywin, and then Qyburn
Thu 11:18

I didnt notice my mistake
Thu 11:19

I wanted to check Ramsay but clicked on Qyburn instead
Thu 11:19

My bad...
Jonsnow Thu 11:32

Why Ramsey?
Olenna Thu 11:33

No kill last night, right? Just checking in now from the train. Will post more later.
Ramsay Thu 11:36

Wow 0.o
Thu 11:37

Idk what to say tho
Oberyn Thu 11:38

No dead?
Ramsay Thu 11:38

Melisandre...
Thu 11:39

Well actually that was a super awkward claim that i even wonder if there is anyone will make up something like that
Thu 11:40

I mean , first 2 nights on the same guy
Thu 11:40

N3 misclick
Oberyn Thu 11:42

Also, interesting that Bring died
Melisandre Thu 11:42

Whatever you think, Ramsay
Oberyn Thu 11:42

So we know someone who voted Tywin is a puppet
Thu 11:43

Will be back in a bit
Ramsay Thu 11:44

That said i trust Mel a little bit XD
Thu 11:44

Cant believe im saying that XD
Melisandre Thu 11:45

:D Finally have someone believes me
Jonsnow Thu 12:07

Why Ramsey, Mel?
Ghost Thu 12:24

Tywin was super agressive this morning
Thu 12:24

weird
Yara Thu 12:45

Who should we vote?
Qyburn Thu 12:49

Who do you want to vote
Melisandre Thu 12:50

@Jon: He didn't talk much
Thu 12:51

I remember that he didn't talk yesterday, right?
Qyburn Thu 12:52

He did talk, but not so much
Leaf Thu 12:58

Hello my pretties
Thu 12:58

Anything fun happening?
Thu 12:58

Or just more of the same trite talk
Ghost Thu 12:59

You serious?
Leaf Thu 12:59

I find both Bronn and Tywin strange yesterday...
Qyburn Thu 13:00

Well one of them is dead so...
Leaf Thu 13:00

But then again Melisandre and Ghost didn't help much.
Thu 13:00

In fact Ramsay is almost so quiet as I am...
Thu 13:00

Strange
Ghost Thu 13:01

You know, who's useless?
Thu 13:01

you
Leaf Thu 13:01

Just because Bronn is dead, won't make me trust Ty
Thu 13:01

Thanks Ghost
Thu 13:03

I'd say I'm about 10% more value to the village than you... which is very little.
Thu 13:03

But at least I'm good looking
Qyburn Thu 13:03

10%?
Ghost Thu 13:03

Wtf are you retarded? Why 10% more than me? what did I do wrong?
Leaf Thu 13:04

Do you have any other exciting revelations for me?
Ghost Thu 13:04

You're shit.
Thu 13:04

You didn't utter a word yesterday I think
Leaf Thu 13:04

You can start by explaining what you did right...
Ghost Thu 13:04

your only comments are about your looks since day 1
Moderator Thu 13:04

Ghost votes to lynch Leaf
Leaf Thu 13:04

I didn't. Maybe I shouldn't have signed up
Ghost Thu 13:04

You haven't contributed a single word to the cause of finding wolves
Thu 13:05

Don't bring the "EMO, I extra signed up and now you're mean to me"
Leaf Thu 13:05

*to the lost cause
Ghost Thu 13:05

You said I'm useless
Thu 13:05

So you're welcome the smack
Thu 13:05

Got any info?
Leaf Thu 13:06

It wasn't meant like that Ghost. I'm not offended by your talk... it's just time wise I am thinking I may find it hard to contribute
Ghost Thu 13:07

Look
Thu 13:08

I had my opinions yesterday I stand by those. And tywin can go to hell, calling my thoughts bad play.
Leaf Thu 13:08

What shall we discuss?
Ghost Thu 13:08

He's probably wolf anyway
Leaf Thu 13:09

I think he was odd, granted.
Thu 13:09

But Bronn was out of line making things up
Thu 13:10

And if you got sucked in. That's not your fault
Thu 13:10

Getting into the hype
Thu 13:10

And seeing phantom wolves
Thu 13:10

I guess it's suspicion taking over
Thu 13:11

But for me. I want Ramsay and Viserys to act more.
Thu 13:12

Ramsey voted without uttering a word for a while yesterday
Moderator Thu 13:12

Leaf votes to lynch Ramsay
Ghost Thu 13:12

I can get behind that
Moderator Thu 13:12

Ghost votes to lynch Ramsay
Leaf Thu 13:13

I knew you'd see reason... at least you're being critical of the game
Thu 13:13

And now shall we wait
Thu 13:13

?
Moderator Thu 13:15

Qyburn votes to lynch Viserys
Qyburn Thu 13:16

I'm pitting that there because he's not helped much
Thu 13:16

An be
Thu 13:17

And like Leaf data he needs to act more
Thu 13:17

Data = says
Moderator Thu 13:41

Yara votes to lynch Viserys
Yara Thu 13:42

I agree with Qyburn
Thu 13:42

Also I'm trying to find time to respond here
Moderator Thu 14:02

Melisandre votes to lynch Leaf
Melisandre Thu 14:02

I have a good feeling on leaf being evil
Thu 14:02

Look at her face :)
Thu 14:03

Just kidding, it's an Asv, don't worry :D
Renly Thu 14:17

I would have to reread yesterday before I can cast a vote. Towards the beginning of today Jonsnow said that yesterday Oberyn said they were role blocked-- and I hadn't remembered that.
Thu 14:18

Mel does have a point about Leaf's face, though!
Qyburn Thu 14:19

Can confirm Oberyn said he was RB
Thu 14:19

At 15:04
Oberyn Thu 14:31

Who misclicks?
Thu 14:31

like wut
Thu 14:32

Mel how can you possibly missclick? you even get a message witgh a name
Littlefinger Thu 14:33

Hi
Thu 14:33

Great, no death
Moderator Thu 14:35

Littlefinger votes to lynch Mountain
Littlefinger Thu 14:35

Im will put my vote down first, for not being smited
Thu 14:35

*I will
Oberyn Thu 14:36

Hi Littlefinger, you were awfully quite yesterday
Ghost Thu 14:36

In general
Littlefinger Thu 14:37

Yay, sorry guys, busy day and I was overslept while reading back all the chat, too long
Oberyn Thu 14:42

right
Ghost Thu 14:45

AHA
Renly Thu 15:33

Thanks Qyburn
Drogon Thu 15:35

Rawr all
Thu 15:37

Nice goin' prot! Keep it up
Thu 15:37

And man, Tywin and Ghost got beef
Melisandre Thu 15:38

@Oberyn: I didnt notice the message, just clicked and done
Drogon Thu 15:41

So, Mel, a wasteful double check and a misclick, AND a blocking role?
Moderator Thu 15:42

Oberyn votes to lynch Melisandre
Oberyn Thu 15:42

I dont buy it
Drogon Thu 15:43

It's pretty damning all together
Melisandre Thu 15:43

Whatever you think....
Thu 15:44

But I have contributed some info
Thu 15:44

That's all my job
Moderator Thu 15:45

Drogon votes to lynch Melisandre
Drogon Thu 15:45

"contributed info" isn't how I'd put it
Thu 15:47

There's always a chance things will turn around, but right now, you look the most guilty
Thu 15:47

Also, littlefinger's near silence is really bothering me
Thu 15:48

I'll be in and out today, but I'll try to check in often
Melisandre Thu 15:49

Lol Drogon
Thu 15:49

"You look the most guilty"
Drogon Thu 15:50

But another interesting thing is that Qyburn was RBd and there was no death. So maybe it wasn't that prot was a champ?
Thu 15:51

Could be that Mel is lit, and Qy is the one to be worried about?
Thu 15:52

Mel, don't start. Your choices have been pretty bad no matter what your alignment is, so yes, you look bad
Thu 15:52

It happens
Melisandre Thu 15:52

I know
Thu 15:53

I've said that my last night check would be sus
Thu 15:53

And visited the same person who didn't visit 2 nights in a row is reasonable
Thu 15:53

In a setup with puppets
Thu 15:54

I don't know what you guys think
Drogon Thu 15:54

While I understand that you felt it was reasonable, you need to see how that looks from our perspective
Thu 15:54

But right now, the best thing to do is help village reason everything out by contributing your ideas
Thu 15:55

Instead of just being on the defensive
Melisandre Thu 15:55

Ok I will
Thu 15:56

I will say some of my thoughts tmr
Thu 15:56

Not today
Drogon Thu 15:56

Why wait?
Melisandre Thu 15:56

I gotta work
Drogon Thu 15:56

Ah, fair
Thu 15:57

I have to go as well, but I'll check back in about an hour or so, unless I get some time before that
Moderator Thu 15:57

Drogon votes to lynch Qyburn
Jonsnow Thu 15:57

Drogon, why works Qy be one to worry about?
Drogon Thu 15:58

Qy was roleblocked and nobody died
Jonsnow Thu 15:58

So what role is he?
Thu 15:59

Wolves can't be role blocked, but regardless why would the Direwolf try and block a fellow wolf?
Drogon Thu 15:59

I'm not understanding
Jonsnow Thu 15:59

If he was vampire he also can't be role blocked, and we'd still be missing a wolf kill
Drogon Thu 16:00

No, I get the wolf part, I thought alpha could be blocked
Thu 16:00

so I was thinking alpha
Jonsnow Thu 16:00

But why?
Drogon Thu 16:00

but I was saying that Mel might not be Dire, and she said she misclicked qy
Jonsnow Thu 16:00

Why would a Direwolf role block a fellow wolf?
Thu 16:00

Okay
Thu 16:01

So, still, if it was the alpha kill that was blocked, where was the normal wolf lille?
Thu 16:01

Kill
Drogon Thu 16:02

Yeah, I was just thinking out loud, so I wasn't thinking it through entirely
Jonsnow Thu 16:03

Okay
Drogon Thu 16:03

So likely prot is champ, Qy may or may not be something to worry about, and Mel's actions were sketch
Thu 16:03

But I thought I'd put it out there
Jonsnow Thu 16:04

That seems a fair summary
Thu 16:06

Has Pycelle spoken today? He was fairly active yesterday iirc
Ghost Thu 16:13

Wait drogn?
Thu 16:13

You say Quy was block and that's why nobody died???
Thu 16:13

I'm slightly confused about this conclusion
Thu 16:14

Your theory would mean that Direwolf blocked alpha wolf
Thu 16:14

That's quite a stretch
Thu 16:15

I'm not even sure if it's technically possible
Jonsnow Thu 16:17

I believe they can block the enraged kill
Thu 16:18

But not the standard kill, since that's more like a lynch than a night ability
Ghost Thu 16:18

WHY WOULD THEY
Thu 16:18

block their own
Jonsnow Thu 16:18

I asked the same
Ghost Thu 16:19

Dorgon has all those weird theories
Thu 16:19

like me being PM yesterday
Jonsnow Thu 16:19

He theorised that it was because she misclicked
Ghost Thu 16:19

she?
Jonsnow Thu 16:19

Mel
Ghost Thu 16:20

So how we got from Mel's misslcik to quy?
Jonsnow Thu 16:20

But he also admitted that he didn't think it through properly...
Ghost Thu 16:21

"Jon Snow could be demon, bla bla bla, I know I didn't think it through but"
Jonsnow Thu 16:21

Mel misclicked and "stalked" Qy, there was no kill, so Qy could have been the killer who was blocked
Ghost Thu 16:21

by whom??
Jonsnow Thu 16:21

We went through this already!
Ghost Thu 16:22

yeah because it's all kinda nonsensical
Jonsnow Thu 16:22

And I agree with you that it was a shit theory
Ghost Thu 16:22

And ppl. say I waste time
Jonsnow Thu 16:23

Who should we lynch today?
Ghost Thu 16:27

Vis, Leaf, Tywin, Ramsay
Thu 16:27

Idc
Jonsnow Thu 16:29

Viserys promised to be on more today, right?
Ghost Thu 16:29

yes
Thu 16:29

he said he got time today
Jonsnow Thu 16:29

So maybe we should hold him to that
Moderator Thu 16:29

Jonsnow votes to lynch Viserys
Drogon Thu 16:32

There's no reason to be mean about it, though, guys. I post my "shit" theories because it helps me with the game
Thu 16:33

If I'm right, then it help and I learn
Thu 16:33

If I'm wrong, I'm corrected and I learn
Thu 16:33

Readong the HTP isn't always helpful for me
Thu 16:33

Reading*
Thu 16:34

So, I'm not "wasting time", I'm trying to figure things out
Thu 16:34

And after the game, I'll do my best to explain why it's necessary for me to do that
Thu 16:35

But I'm not trying to bring personal shit here right now
Jonsnow Thu 16:35

Äääh
Thu 16:36

I didn't mean to cause offense
Drogon Thu 16:36

No, I'm not offended, honestly
Thu 16:36

That wasn't meant to be angry or anything
Thu 16:36

Just explaining
Thu 16:36

No worries
Thu 16:40

So, anyway, if Mel was Dire and Qy was alpha, she could have, technically, accidentally blocked her own teammate with a wrong click? Do I have that right?
Thu 16:40

But that's extremely unlikely, and doesn't account for the other wolf kill?
Jonsnow Thu 16:41

Yes, I believe so
Drogon Thu 16:41

I mean, I thought we had this straight before, but then Ghost came in and kind of rehashed it, so i figure i'll make sure
Thu 16:42

But Mel's RB ability and sketchy actions could certainly make her dire, right?
Thu 16:42

IF she RBd
Jonsnow Thu 16:42

Well, we don't know Mel has an RB ability
Drogon Thu 16:42

Right
Jonsnow Thu 16:42

It could be coincidence
Drogon Thu 16:43

If Mel is village, she's having some seriously shitty luck this game
Jonsnow Thu 16:44

I think Mel wouldn't reveal she accidentally role blocked the wrong person if that was what happened
Thu 16:44

But idk, the whole scenario just seems unlikely
Viserys Thu 16:50

Hey all, sorry about the past couple of days, was much busier than I expected, but I have some time today. Notice a couple of votes on me, but not much as to why...
Ghost Thu 16:52

Because you don't do anything, don't say anyinth
Thu 16:52

so we wanna hear from you
Viserys Thu 16:53

Reading through the chat, there's been a couple of suspicious people, but if that's the reason then fair enough, I can't argue with that up to this point.
Thu 16:53

To make up for it, I'll let you know everything I know so far.
Ghost Thu 16:53

sounds good
Thu 16:53

it's 3 votes
Thu 16:53

noting that cant be changed
Viserys Thu 16:54

I was hoping for a Gravedigger to claim this before I revealed, but I guess it will work as well the other way around. I was the Graverobber, I robbed Jorah Night 2 and became a Witchhunter.
Ghost Thu 16:54

juicy
Thu 16:55

got any infos for us?
Thu 16:55

suspicious peeps?
Viserys Thu 16:55

Last night, I checked Tywin and got a message that Leaf is a magic user. I haven't played Witchhunter before, but I'm assuming that means Leaf is a Puppetmaster and Tywin is a puppet? Maybe someone who's played the role before can verify that
Thu 16:56

I guess it could also be a Djinn, but nobody has mentioned being swapped so far, from what I've seen
Ghost Thu 16:56

seems you got redirected?
Viserys Thu 16:56

Ah, true, that's another possibility, I hadn't considered that
Thu 16:57

We know it can't be Shapeshifter since nobody died
Ghost Thu 16:57

aye
Thu 16:57

So leaf? what are you ? :D
Moderator Thu 16:57

Ghost votes to lynch Leaf
Ghost Thu 16:58

any other checks that contradict statements made by other ppl. so far?
Viserys Thu 16:58

I'm going to vote Leaf to balance and because he's my biggest suspicion right now, but Ghost made a good point that I could have been redirected, so it's not set in stone
Moderator Thu 16:58

Viserys votes to lynch Leaf
Viserys Thu 16:59

No, that's all I have so far, Night 1 was nothing because nobody was dead, Night 2 I became Witchhunter but can't use the ability since it happens at the end of the night, Night 3 I checked Tywin
Thu 17:00

I chose Tywin due to there being suspicion on him and him being one of the ones who voted for Bronn, since there had to be at least one puppet within those 4
Ghost Thu 17:00

sounds reasonable
Jonsnow Thu 17:11

Viserys, I think you have it backwards?
Renly Thu 17:11

Still catching up. Amused reading Mel agreeing with Drogon that she should give info instead of being defensive -- and then saying she'd do it TOMORROW
Jonsnow Thu 17:11

There has to be a puppet in one of the four who voted for Tywin
Renly Thu 17:15

Okay -- I was reading this and something that Jonsnow said got me thinking down a strange path...
Thu 17:15

We know there's coven in this game. But do we KNOW it is WWs we are after? Could it be a Vampire and they WEREN'T blocked last night -- but just made a familiar?
Thu 17:16

I haven't thought this through -- but when I read Jon's comment and was about to scoff, I thought a little more and it MIGHT fit
Viserys Thu 17:19

Oh, you're right JonSnow, I do have that backwards. If Oberyn's tally at the end of the day is correct, that means one of Ghost, Bronn, Oberyn or JonSnow is a puppet
Thu 17:20

Renly, it's certainly possible, though I guess it'll be hard for us to know at the moment
Renly Thu 17:20

Viserys -- I agree -- and as I said, it just occurred to me while reading and I haven't thought it through.
Thu 17:20

I hope it is wrong -- that'd throw my theories out the window!
Viserys Thu 17:24

Yeah, worth keeping in mind though when we're looking at any evidence we get.
Jonsnow Thu 17:24

No, there has to be wolves
Thu 17:24

unless both Oberyn and Qyburn are lying
Thu 17:24

because Direwolf reverts to a normal werewolf if they're the last wolf alive, meaning there cannot be a Direwolf in play without there being a killing wolf also in play
Renly Thu 17:25

Then I hope they're telling the truth... Coven and WWs are enough without adding Vampires to the mix!
Viserys Thu 17:29

Would be easy to claim they were roleblocked, especially after another player claimed to be blocked, but I see your point and agree with you, I'd be surprised if we have no wolves
Thu 17:31

Did Tywin clarify why he asked if Qyburn had been roleblocked before Qyburn had mentioned it? I can't see that anywhere, but I could have missed something accidentally
Thu 17:32

(I'm assuming the same as JonSnow that it was a misunderstanding with the Direwolf/Ghost thing, but wondered if he'd actually said anything himself to that effect)
Ghost Thu 17:33

We could lynch someone else than leave or vyseris and then check if there's an additional kill
Drogon Thu 17:33

Qyburn Thu 08:14 Good morning village Thu 08:14 I see the direwolf is still alive Tywin Thu 08:15 Did you get a RB
Moderator Thu 17:33

Renly votes to lynch Melisandre
Ghost Thu 17:33

btw. has the mountain ever spoken?
Renly Thu 17:33

Just because they agree they should talk and agree to... TOMORROW
Drogon Thu 17:33

Sorry, just popped up and saw the question. I actually knew where that was
Oberyn Thu 17:33

I dont think he has actually
Ghost Thu 17:34

I'd just vote him out, and lets see if Viserys can kill leave
Thu 17:34

of course if leave doesn't show up with an explenation
Oberyn Thu 17:34

Bit busy atm will drop in in about an hour from now
Viserys Thu 17:34

Yeah, Drogon, that's the bit I meant, but after that there was a conversation that he didn't mean a Direwolf, even though he was blocked
Drogon Thu 17:35

Viserys is graverobber/witch hunter?
Ghost Thu 17:35

ye
Thu 17:35

well he claims so
Drogon Thu 17:35

(sorry, still reading)
Viserys Thu 17:35

Ghost, who would you suggest? I am a little concerned that I was redirected and I've seen a village-aligned role, but I don't have a stronger suspicion at this point
Thu 17:35

Yes, Drogon, that is what I have claimed
Ghost Thu 17:35

in the result you should see the name
Thu 17:36

So you checked leaf and the result is leaf
Drogon Thu 17:36

His explanation makes sense, so i'm inclined to believe him
Ghost Thu 17:36

so I wanna know from leaf
Viserys Thu 17:36

No, I checked Tywin and I got a result for Leaf, I want to make that clear
Ghost Thu 17:36

I know
Viserys Thu 17:36

I thought that was an indication of a Puppetmaster, hadn't considered a redirect
Ghost Thu 17:36

but leaf is magic user
Thu 17:36

so I wanna know what leaf is
Viserys Thu 17:36

Yeah, I agree, hopefully Leaf will come on and speak
Ghost Thu 17:36

There are not many magic users as town
Drogon Thu 17:37

I thought Tywin was just asking because Qy mentioned Direwolf and didn't know it was a joke about Ghost
Ghost Thu 17:37

Good witchcraft users: Seers, Protectors, Revivers, Beholders, Tarot Readers.
Drogon Thu 17:37

I don't know if that was actually said, though
Ghost Thu 17:37

I'd still go for tywin
Thu 17:37

he came on today trashed me a bit for being useless and left
Thu 17:37

he claimed fking vanilla
Thu 17:37

srsly
Renly Thu 17:37

Vise, sorry for not remembering. You checked Tywin and got the result of Leaf -- what kind of check?
Drogon Thu 17:37

He's pretty uppity
Viserys Thu 17:37

Drogon, that's my assumption too, but I noticed he never clarified that was the case after that stuff was discussed. Not a big point, but wanted to check if people had seen it.
Thu 17:38

Renly, I'm a Witchhunter now, so it's a check to see if someone is a role with magic (Coven or a village-aligned role that uses magic)
Renly Thu 17:38

ty
Thu 17:38

ummm. Now?
Ghost Thu 17:38

Olenna defended tywin to the bone
Thu 17:39

today I hear nothing from her
Thu 17:39

she was basically "LEAVE BRITNEY TYWIN ALONE!!!!
Renly Thu 17:39

:)
Drogon Thu 17:40

@Viserys, no, it doesn't look like Tywin ever explained himself
Ghost Thu 17:40

he just said he's vanilla
Drogon Thu 17:40

Olenna Crocker
Viserys Thu 17:40

Thought so, thanks Drogon.
Moderator Thu 17:40

Ghost votes to lynch Tywin
Ghost Thu 17:41

him or mountain are no loss to the village
Viserys Thu 17:41

Going to make it a tie so I'm not top of the list, we should discuss who we want to lynch
Moderator Thu 17:41

Viserys votes to lynch Tywin
Drogon Thu 17:41

Did mountain vote yesterday, or is he in danger of a smite?
Viserys Thu 17:41

Oh, wait, I'm being dumb, I'm still top of the list
Thu 17:42

Mountain, Littlefinger and Leaf need to vote today
Ghost Thu 17:42

no mountain will ger smited if he doesnt vote
Viserys Thu 17:42

So a vote for those three is probably a waste
Ghost Thu 17:42

true
Thu 17:42

So, leaf was weird today in my opinion.
Renly Thu 17:43

Although I don't trust Mel, I have trusted Ghost's analysis so far. Can you convince me to change my vote?
Ghost Thu 17:43

Tywin is "uppity", which is a nice description for this behavior.
Thu 17:43

where's your vote atm? :D
Viserys Thu 17:43

Leaf has voted today, actually
Ghost Thu 17:43

yeah she called me useless. then was gone again
Thu 17:43

-_-
Thu 17:44

I don't make a good impression this game I recon...
Moderator Thu 17:44

Viserys votes to lynch Melisandre
Renly Thu 17:44

Right now my vote is for Mel -- just because they agreed they needed to give evidence and said they would TOMORROW
Drogon Thu 17:44

I didn't even realize my vote was still on Qy
Viserys Thu 17:44

Moving my vote to tie it
Drogon Thu 17:44

I was going to vote Mel, too
Ghost Thu 17:44

Olenna, Tywin, Leaf, I didn't make friends this round.
Moderator Thu 17:44

Drogon votes to lynch Melisandre
Drogon Thu 17:44

Poor Ghost
Ghost Thu 17:45

I'd just like to know why -_--
Drogon Thu 17:45

I think maybe you're aggressive in your language, and it rubs people the wrong way
Thu 17:45

Very blunt
Viserys Thu 17:45

Eh, I've seen and been much worse in previous games
Ghost Thu 17:45

Me? Agressive in a ww.es game?
Viserys Thu 17:45

Back in a little bit
Drogon Thu 17:45

Haha
Ghost Thu 17:45

NEVA :D
Drogon Thu 17:45

SHUT UP DOLORES
Ghost Thu 17:46

I still think my language was moderate yesterday.
Thu 17:46

but when you get told you're useless by a person who wrote like 5 lines in 4 days...
Thu 17:46

well
Drogon Thu 17:47

I mean, you said I was wasting time, too
Thu 17:47

but I'm not taking it personally
Thu 17:47

we all have different ways of playing and getting to the bottom of things
Thu 17:47

And not everyone is going to like it
Ghost Thu 17:48

No, I said, if your theory is "worth considering" then, SOMEONE could forgive me my Davos missassumption
Drogon Thu 17:48

My theory about Mel/Qy today
Ghost Thu 17:48

I'm still not sure how that would work but :)
Drogon Thu 17:49

Yeah, and I get that
Thu 17:49

It's a huuuuuuuuuuge stretch, and very unlikely
Thu 17:49

I've pretty much abandoned it entirely
Ghost Thu 17:49

So we're voting melisandre because, her checks are super weird?
Drogon Thu 17:49

Though I'll admit that in my head I still suspect both of them a little
Thu 17:49

Yes, between the double check and the "misclick" it just seems too shady
Thu 17:50

And the possible RB, though that may not be a factor
Thu 17:50

Those are my reasons, anyway
Ghost Thu 17:50

I still want to punch Quy so hard for the puns
Drogon Thu 17:51

Haha
Thu 17:51

paw to the face
Thu 17:52

I have a question about the PM role again, but I don't want to get yelled at. . .
Ghost Thu 17:52

Ask away
Thu 17:52

I'm the worst PM ever
Thu 17:52

can answer all the stuff
Drogon Thu 17:53

Could Bronn have been PM, and Olenna and Pycelle puppets?
Thu 17:53

They haven't spoken today, right?
Thu 17:53

Oh, but did either of them vote for Tywin?
Thu 17:54

Haha, quiet you
Ghost Thu 17:54

they can't when you lynch the PM, the puppies die faster
Thu 17:54

only if pm gets killed at night they stay for a day
Drogon Thu 17:54

Oh, okay
Thu 17:55

Thanks
Thu 17:56

I will know the roles someday, I swear
Thu 17:56

Like, maybe in a year or two. . . but I'll know them!
Ghost Thu 17:57

:D
Mountain Thu 18:10

Hey guys
Thu 18:10

Busy as hell these days
Thu 18:10

Can't read and follow much
Thu 18:10

I will be more active in the weekend I promise
Thu 18:10

Just gonna ASV today since I didn't vote yesterday
Moderator Thu 18:10

Mountain votes to lynch Sansa
Mountain Thu 18:11

Good thing we have no death last night
Jonsnow Thu 18:13

Ghost, I think we should lynch Leaf tomorrow... do you agree?
Oberyn Thu 18:14

Here I am
Jonsnow Thu 18:14

Rock you like a hurricane?
Oberyn Thu 18:14

Mountain, wow so much contrabution
Thu 18:14

I'm amazed
Ramsay Thu 18:15

Hey guys
Viserys Thu 18:16

I'm guessing Leaf (and probably myself) will be watched tonight, hopefully we'll know more about Leaf tomorrow to make a decision on him
Ramsay Thu 18:16

Hmm
Thu 18:16

Dont kill Mel
Oberyn Thu 18:16

@Ramsey why not
Ramsay Thu 18:17

She is telling the truth
Oberyn Thu 18:17

And you know that, because?
Ramsay Thu 18:18

I dont want to say this but i guess
Thu 18:18

I beheld her
Oberyn Thu 18:18

Hmm
Thu 18:18

Mind sharing your other checks?
Ramsay Thu 18:18

Qyburn visited nobody last night
Moderator Thu 18:18

Pycelle votes to lynch Viserys
Oberyn Thu 18:19

Please do it like: N1- N2 - N3
Ramsay Thu 18:19

N1 i didnt check anyone
Oberyn Thu 18:19

??
Thu 18:19

Why not
Ramsay Thu 18:20

I forgot the game :/ thats the reason for my apologize..
Oberyn Thu 18:20

But could you please do a N1 - N2 - N3 as I asked
Ramsay Thu 18:20

Ok kk
Thu 18:21

N1 no check
Thu 18:22

N2 pycelle saw nothing
Thu 18:22

N3 Mel: Tywin did not visit anyone
Jonsnow Thu 18:22

Wait
Thu 18:22

Didn't Mel say she checked Qyburn last night?
Viserys Thu 18:23

Yes, she did
Ramsay Thu 18:23

Yeah Qyburn XD got mixed up
Oberyn Thu 18:23

wait
Thu 18:23

then why did you just say: Qyburn visited nobody last night
Thu 18:24

Your checks dont tell me anything about Qyburn
Jonsnow Thu 18:24

N3 Mel: Qyburn did not visit anyone
Thu 18:24

Is what I think he meant
Ramsay Thu 18:24

Mel checked Qyburn and I beheld her
Oberyn Thu 18:24

Then why did you say this: N3 Mel: Tywin did not visit anyone
Pycelle Thu 18:24

HEY
Ramsay Thu 18:24

The result is Qyburn stayed home
Oberyn Thu 18:25

youre not making any sense
Pycelle Thu 18:25

I am really sickness right Nowi no
Ramsay Thu 18:25

The Tywin is a mistake
Oberyn Thu 18:25

odd mistake
Pycelle Thu 18:25

eI ca can ex Tyers
Ramsay Thu 18:26

I dont really know this theme :/
Pycelle Thu 18:26

I cannot type
Viserys Thu 18:26

I agree with Oberyn, it seems like an odd mistake
Thu 18:26

Pycelle, not sure what you were trying to say there
Pycelle Thu 18:26

I wilrandow
Thu 18:27

I wi
Thu 18:27

llasv
Ramsay Thu 18:27

I even said Qyburn first...
Pycelle Thu 18:28

too sickening
Viserys Thu 18:28

True, you did. It took you a while to come up with your check list though.
Thu 18:28

Pycelle, could you explain your vote please?
Moderator Thu 18:28

Pycelle votes to lynch Olenna
Viserys Thu 18:28

Timing. Could you explain that vote? :-)
Ramsay Thu 18:29

Yeah i have to make sure what my N2 check was
Thu 18:30

And about Pycelle i think he wanted to say "i will random i will asv"
Moderator Thu 18:31

Ramsay votes to lynch Viserys
Viserys Thu 18:31

Now you've said it I see it, though I've no idea what his other attempt at a sentence was
Thu 18:31

I'm assuming you're balancing because of what you said about Melisandre?
Ramsay Thu 18:32

Yep
Viserys Thu 18:33

Cool. I think I'm OK with a tie since we're still relatively early in the game, the only concern is if there is a puppet voting
Thu 18:34

Little surprised JonSnow hasn't changed his vote though, to be honest, he's been back since I came on
Thu 18:34

Could be keeping it balanced though
Ramsay Thu 18:35

I think we should be able to figure out something from last night lynch
Thu 18:36

Im eating tho
Thu 18:36

Will check properly when i have my laptop
Viserys Thu 18:37

As I was reading through yesterday's chat, I was thinking 'Oh, I'll check Bronn', then I got to the end and he'd been lynched. Looking at who voted for who yesterday and who votes for who based on the end of the today, we should be able to narrow down the puppet(s)
Ramsay Thu 18:38

^
Thu 18:38

Now all we have to do is going through the chat log
Viserys Thu 18:38

Someone posted a summary of vote tallies at the end of yesterday, but I haven't verified it
Thu 18:39

I'll post one at the end of today too, unless someone beats me to it
Ramsay Thu 18:39

Yeah. That makes thing easier
Moderator Thu 18:41

Jonsnow votes to lynch Pycelle
Jonsnow Thu 18:41

Sorry, I meant to but then I got distracted :)
Viserys Thu 18:42

It's fine, any reason for Pycelle in particular?
Jonsnow Thu 18:43

not really, maybe he's dying and I just want to put him out of his misery sooner?
Thu 18:43

he looks pretty old
Thu 18:43

actually, I think I'd rather vote for...
Moderator Thu 18:43

Jonsnow votes to lynch Mountain
Jonsnow Thu 18:44

Mountain is like a bingo card for village statements
Thu 18:44

Like he's rolled a dice and picked random village statements that fix the context
Viserys Thu 18:45

I don't think he's contributed much so far, at least from what I remember of scanning through the previous chat
Oberyn Thu 18:45

The die is not trustworthy I'm speaking of experience
Thu 18:46

But I agree, his messages feel very much like BS bingo
Ghost Thu 18:47

Interesting news
Thu 18:47

We trust Ramsey?
Viserys Thu 18:47

I'm not sure yet
Thu 18:48

I'm tempted to balance the vote so we can get more information for tomorrow
Oberyn Thu 18:48

his mistake feels odd to me
Viserys Thu 18:48

We have a few claims with not much to help verify them at the moment (including my own)
Oberyn Thu 18:48

But it could be a genuine mistake
Viserys Thu 18:48

That's basically how I feel about Melisandre too, Oberyn
Ghost Thu 18:49

I think he had to rely on too many "guesses" to make that claim
Thu 18:49

I tend towards legit at the moment
Jonsnow Thu 18:49

What "guesses"?
Oberyn Thu 18:49

@Ghost you don't think that mistake was odd
Thu 18:50

?
Ghost Thu 18:50

Pycellef or example?
Oberyn Thu 18:50

That he said Tywin instead of Bronn
Ghost Thu 18:50

Honestly every fucking claim we had so far was kinda weird or wild. Viserys one is probably the best.
Thu 18:51

I talked about Davos for a whole day.
Thu 18:51

I should shut up about such mistakes
Jonsnow Thu 18:51

I have a problem with Viserys's claim too, but yes it's the best so far
Thu 18:51

but Ghost, what if Pycelle and Ramsey are on the same team?
Ghost Thu 18:51

I don't wanna be too insulting: BUT THEY WERE ALL SHIT :D
Thu 18:51

*joking*
Thu 18:52

Can't we just lynch Tywin?
Thu 18:52

he claimed vanilla
Thu 18:52

I mean srsly
Viserys Thu 18:52

I am a little concerned that both Pycelle and Ramsey moved attention away from Melisandre (albeit in different ways)
Oberyn Thu 18:52

Still trying to find what he claimed
Thu 18:52

I think i missed it
Ghost Thu 18:52

Tywin?
Thu 18:52

o
Oberyn Thu 18:53

@Viserys, would you be so kind to repeat your claim?
Jonsnow Thu 18:53

uh
Thu 18:53

Can I request he doesn't?
Oberyn Thu 18:53

ehm
Thu 18:53

sure i guess
Thu 18:54

not sure why he wouldnt
Jonsnow Thu 18:54

well
Ghost Thu 18:54

I don't wanna lynch Meli or Vis atm, I dont wanna lynch ramsey
Thu 18:54

so WHY not tywin?
Oberyn Thu 18:54

nevermind, found it
Jonsnow Thu 18:54

Why not mountain?
Moderator Thu 18:54

Jonsnow votes to lynch Tywin
Ghost Thu 18:55

Mountian didn't even try
Thu 18:55

to be frank -_-
Thu 18:55

What rubs me the most about Tywin is his vanilla claim
Thu 18:55

I wanna know what he is.
Thu 18:55

not "vanilla"
Thu 18:55

19 peeps blind game, with 3 factions
Thu 18:55

and you tell me poor tywin is vanilla?
Jonsnow Thu 18:56

I suppose it's possible he's Lycan / Insomniac / Sleepwalker
Thu 18:56

well, probably not the middle
Oberyn Thu 18:56

If he is, he must be one of those
Thu 18:56

I dont buy normal vanilla
Ghost Thu 18:56

An other question
Thu 18:56

we got no kills tonight
Thu 18:56

Is there any sense in protection revealing who was protected?
Oberyn Thu 18:56

I guess just a lucky prot
Ghost Thu 18:57

Or we keep that until it's a person we're just about to lynch
Oberyn Thu 18:57

Not sure why she/he would
Jonsnow Thu 18:57

If it was a self protect, probably worth it
Viserys Thu 18:57

But the wolves won't know if it was a self protect
Jonsnow Thu 18:57

otherwise, I wouldn't bother even if they're gonna be lynched since there's no guarantee they're good
Oberyn Thu 18:57

if it was a selfprot then coming out might be useful
Jonsnow Thu 18:58

Viserys, no, but they'll probably target the same person tonight so that'd imply the protector is dead tomorrow and we wouldn't know
Ghost Thu 18:58

Nobody knows if there are other protection roles around, like a HM or what ever.
Oberyn Thu 18:58

And we could ask for maybe a harlot on the prot if there is one
Thu 18:59

or Hm yeah
Viserys Thu 18:59

Yeah, i see the argument, though I think they are more likely to go for someone who revealed, especially if there is a Shapeshifter around
Thu 18:59

But it's down to the Protector (if we have one) to decide if they think it's worth them coming forward
Ghost Thu 19:00

I don't wanna force anyone. Was just a question I felt got a bit lost today.
Oberyn Thu 19:00

I dont see why prot would come out if he didnt prot himself
Ghost Thu 19:00

I mean it's a huge break for us to have a no kill night. Good stuff.
Viserys Thu 19:00

Yeah, definitely worth asking, just letting them know they don't have to come forward if they don't think it's worth it
Ghost Thu 19:01

Well the meta kinda is to not go for prots anyway.
Viserys Thu 19:01

Yeah, it's why I think it's less valuable for a self-protect to come forward
Ghost Thu 19:01

why?
Jonsnow Thu 19:02

hmmm, well
Thu 19:02

could have been a Shaman save?
Ghost Thu 19:02

true hmm
Viserys Thu 19:02

Because as you say, they tend not to go for the Protector, and it means they don't confirm whether who the Protector was, they only have guesses
Ghost Thu 19:02

well if we don't know who was targeted, chances are 100% this person is probably gonna die
Thu 19:03

if we know who it was, chances are 30-50%
Thu 19:03

I'd say
Viserys Thu 19:04

Did Qyburn claim a role?
Ghost Thu 19:04

Nah, everybody sees if they get role blocked
Thu 19:04

no matter if they used an ability or what ever.
Thu 19:05

you always get the message
Viserys Thu 19:05

Ah, OK, so even a normal villager would see it?
Ghost Thu 19:06

yes
Viserys Thu 19:06

OK, cool
Jonsnow Thu 19:08

Also, roles that can't be roleblocked still see it
Thu 19:08

e.g. Succubus
Viserys Thu 19:09

Cool, thanks both for clarifying
Ramsay Thu 19:42

so we are lynching Mel?
Viserys Thu 19:45

I think I might move my vote to Tywin to tie the votes
Thu 19:45

Not decided yet though
Ghost Thu 19:46

hmm
Thu 19:46

I dont wanna lynch Mel
Thu 19:46

either someone moves votes to someone else form Mel or I balance on Vis
Moderator Thu 19:46

Ramsay votes to lynch Tywin
Ghost Thu 19:46

we need one more
Viserys Thu 19:47

Well now I can't tie it unless I move my vote away
Ghost Thu 19:47

where's your vote on?
Viserys Thu 19:47

I was going to do the three-way tie, seemed safer. It's on Melisandre at the moment
Ramsay Thu 19:47

Um. Sure
Moderator Thu 19:48

Ramsay votes to lynch Hound
Ghost Thu 19:48

vis move your vote
Moderator Thu 19:48

Viserys votes to lynch Tywin
Ghost Thu 19:48

thx to prot we got one more day
Thu 19:48

or... shaman
Viserys Thu 19:48

It's still not a three-way tie this way though, but it's better than it was
Ghost Thu 19:48

aye
Moderator Thu 19:48

Ramsay votes to lynch Viserys
Ramsay Thu 19:49

Ok
Viserys Thu 19:49

OK, as long as there isn't a last minute vote that should _hopefully_ negate the puppet, unless they've been very clever, but then we'll have narrowed the puppets down further
Thu 19:50

I'll summarise the votes now, people should be able to track any changes themselves from here and I don't risk missing the window by leaving it too late.
Ghost Thu 19:50

ok
Viserys Thu 19:51

Melisandre: Oberyn, Renly, Drogon
Thu 19:51

Viserys: Qyburn, Yara, Ramsay
Thu 19:51

Tywin: Ghost, JonSnow, Viserys
Ghost Thu 19:51

thx dude
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