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Poor wemissyoyoyou :(
Will be even more missed now
werewolves are a troll this round haha
Only one death? Was expecting a ton of kill power
They suffered the worst fate imaginable. Dying N1 in ext-200
I like your avatar, Witch
Not as great as her_Herr tho
Recruits/other scary demon things?
I do not like my name very much
What spice other than salt is in this game
I need to know who made the Villager, Werewolf, Witch and Vampire icons, they're so cute
It sound fishsy
enna did those during inkt
Good job enna! They're great!
@Enna thanks haha
Oh really good job such a cute chibi avatar
:) the avatats are pretty thanks Enna
Yo, sup Landfill and Hellhound, finding nemo?
So, do we think Kirsch put a TR in this time?
Scoundrel in da house! Flirting with yo Spouse!
Looks like it
I would laugh my ass off if it's happens again
Mad scrambling intervention in progress everybody
Yes, I agree
my avarta is more than cute
I look like a white cat
cute, but not cool
Ugly but cute
Alrighty, you're cute. there there don't crai
It starts, at last
Easy for you to say, your avarta is more than handsome
Hello Villager, I am werewolf. Nice to meet you
Hi werewolf, not nice to meet you, pls don't eat me, plsss
Don't worry. I am on diet lol
hmm, you do look quite thin
We are all good then
So with the presence of ArmoredSecurityVehicle, everybody should feel safe inserting asv today I guess
Yes, you should try. 2l of water, say no to red meat
How about we do an early role claim?
I'm also on a diet, my scale is toofat
I am, of course, a Villager
I may not be active until later.
Walsh votes to lynch ChangeOfHeart
Anyway, I'm a Hellhound.
Too bad I'm not a Werewolf
Can you hear something Hellhound?
Hey hello Walsh
Because my avatar says so.
Let's see if they can do as their name suggests.
I love you Walsh!!! lol
Did Kirs do everything related to the names?
Walsh walsh walsh!
You guys are so sweet.
he is a genius
Is the smite on?
Should I ASV?
Day 1: there is Han and there is Solo
wanna troll mod?
there has just been another death...
mod is evil, you'll pay for that
Wait, did 919 just die?
Massive unity for D2 to not Asv
Mod loves me
That explains why the site froze and reloaded for a bit.
I noticed that too
Werewolf votes to lynch Han
Ok, you start
919 just died.
What the 2nd death
Hellhound votes to lynch ASV
how about we all refuse to vote for 2 days and commit a massive smite?
I did not see that
ASV on ASV
I heard you last night.
Yeah Let's go on strike!
we wage war against Mod for 2 days
Did I say something cool?
or just meow meow ?
Is this secretly an evil plot? :P
You planned on spending this entire day grooming.
can anyone exchange me to a cooler avarta??????
Being a couch potato.
I know your secrets.
I'm too cute to act cool
The demon shall be pleased.
*takes note of Han's agressiveness*
Your avatar is cool.
well werewolf my friend, I think your avatar is super cool
just don't eat me
Wow, I feel love everywhere
I know you're jealous of my handsome ruggedness
Her_Her Dory's eyes are so illusive.
Sure Villager, we are friends
SoSlowww looks the ugliest to be honest xD
But yeah keep on scribbling
You're just cute as me
Heh heh heh...
Why do we have a tortoise named after wheel?
Cute ppl should live forever!
SoFast gotta be the handsomest then
Han, I feel like I'm your pet :(
You can be my pet ;-)
@Han I'm absolutely agreed with your wise statement!
*takes note of Han's handsomeness illusion*
SSS, nice try taking notes
are we going to keep trash-talking like that?
Yeah. More work for Kirsch.
I'm cool with that. It's ext200. It must be full of fun
That sounds good to me.
Well, my D2 always full of trash
This is serious business
Also, I wanna irks the heck out of Mod
of course that sounds good for villains like werewolf and hellhound
As long as you guys keep me alive, I can give you all the doggy intels.
Rear entry collision
Shhh, don't be a partypooper, let me role play.
cute word for wolffy
Wolffy lol, another Walsh
I see the night, doggy style. (a Hellhound can read werewolf's chat, without avatars)
Oh yes, we dint have dogs in the sea
You do Her her
What about dogfish?
She does her.
Her do her.
Walsh votes to lynch Her_Her
Wait, what was I doing here again?
She does her indeed
Please paste me the document of their chats, I'll turn them into...sheets
Just keep swimming, Her her, just keep swimming
Shit pile you mean
Oh right *swims away*
Anyway, how did Him_Him got a meme of Dory? Like, I get the Her_Her part, but why Dory?
Cause he had a fish skin :P
from Owl to Fish, sounds legit
OMG it's so fun here
Come on Walsh, take a cider and chillax
I ain't got time to chillax, people are dying up in here
Are you saying that evils should kill you to give you more time to chillax at GY?
Just keep swimming...
Any Djinn swap claim, anyone?
What factions do we even have out there?
Alrighty, a nerve has been strike
Vampire can help. Hope he's not in diet too
We do business first
I would say all Factions
They can try and kill me if they want. I am too tough to accept death.
And prolly a new one
I think we have villagers, and evils, I'm sure about that.
Someone on steroid
100 introduced Demon, right?
We might have a TR. But I personally wouldn't know when to use the ability.
probably there's a new faction
Like, it's too huge.
Yes. @Demons is here
TR should play it smart
If it refreshes in 7, it's worth using early, imo.
Right. TR is also a one-time.
Imo its worth using n1
from the narrative alone, the new faction probably has the serial-killer vibe
Witch votes to lynch Hellhound
You risk intervention if TR do n1
but isn't that what Demonlord does?
how long do you think he can live?
Hey, Solo and Han have the same avarta
are they twins?
Angel of Death say % is low
They're practically the same person, first and last.
Alpha and Omega? Omega wolf confirmed.
Yeb. we will see if they show up in the same time =))
Walsh votes to lynch Han
What about Beta Wolf?
SShabaSheet votes to lynch UnfamiliarGuy
Holy shit! My doppelganger!
why 2 votes on Han?
He looks unfamiliar to me
I just realized we have Solo
It wasnt me
My Siamese twin
I started it, Walsh voted you after me
Separated at Birth
Tue 09:20 Day 1: there is Han and there is Solo
*rips off notes*
That sounds like Axl.
I thought you were tambling
Wait. Tortoise with wheel... I GET IT NOW.
What is wrong with Walsh?
Aren't we talking business again
if you promise never to vote on me, I'll think again about moving my votes :P
I hasnt vote on anyone my pet
I'm not saying today. I'm saying for the whole game
Pull up your Ww hat to see better
What a good business
I think we should asv on each other Werewolf, it will be true to the lore
I changed my mind, I dont want to be a pet. I want to be a BUSINESSMAN
Villager votes to lynch Werewolf
Hmmm, are you striking a deal with me Pet
You mean, a working dog?
An UNDER DOG?
You should think Sofaster, unless I change my mind
I AM NOT A DOGGGGGGG
YOU WERE WOLF, WHAT ARE YOU NOW
werewolf is cool, dog is not
This is way too amusing to watch
of course you aint a Doggggggg, that's 6 Gs too many
cat is cute, dog isn't
We likely need to be concise this game, otherwise we will build hours of text to read
Alrighty Pet, you got yourself a deal
Nope never doing that again
Lag is the true enemy to us all
Let's kill the lag first.
Werewolf votes to lynch Vampire
To Lag! *toast*
Okay, any intel
that's it. I'm out of here. If you wants to find me, send Dory to find me. I might be somewhere crying because of your bullying :(
There's no @Lag? or even @Mobilelag? I'm disappointed
Spud votes to lynch TheServer
Run to my open arms
For making me so laggy
HatAss votes to lynch SoSlowww
Be back later.
Well, it helps a little bit
But I'm still sad
So how do we propose this. Any sound plan?
Villager votes to lynch Demons
There there, Werewolf
Alrighty, what do you want. Icecream?
A scoundrel like me aint nice
Thanks, Villager buddy ^^
wanna go play Frisby?
Should I laugh
I wanna laugh but I cant
That's it. I'm going back to my corner to cry :(
Coz it will makes her even more sad
Hey, I'm a dude
They called me dog, they called me "her"
Behind those mask
* still crying in vain *
Okay, I will be back. My roast chicken is ready
Save you some bones later
* Acting like I don't care about the bullying :( *
Landfill? Still finding Dory? Hellhound? U too right? For what
Is it fun being a coven?
more fun being a slut
Well, sluts and AIDS come together, so I'd say you weren't wrong.
(trying to be brief here) Not so many deaths, I expected more. Maybe more deaths tomorrow if there are N1-recruiting VMs. I'm also confused/intrigued by 919 dying later, what people saw apparently. I'm eager to hear from SoSlowww with a mason update.
As I imagined, the chat is already insane :)
I'd say either Landfill or Hellhound is sus, Dory was visited by both of them lol
Morning guys, I’m proud someone took the opportunity to ASV on me
But uh...for some reason I can’t see the vote counts lol
YoU guys saw 919 appear dead after morning happened right? They show as the first one dead for me so that’s weird af
I have the same, Rob. We're playing insane mode, we have to count votes ourselves...
And Witch, I now understand what you mean with 'paid slut' and see your claim
For the record: Witch claims Harlot, N1 she checked Her_Her, and saw Landfill and Hellhound visit.
Let's hear from both players, shall we?
Good plan! Also I’m drunk so
please DM me on discord if you have problems with vote counts
Awiem votes to lynch Hellhound
*a little pressure may help*
oh boy this is going to be a good game, I can feel it
Alright, I'm going to confirm Witch's claim. I did visit Her_Her last night.
Not sure how to prove I'm not Vampire though. But I think I do not want to reveal my role yet.
And I don't see why seeing a visit means it's automatically okay to pile up votes.
I was wondering if after all these years
HH: it's interesting that you immediately mention Vampire, whereas there are so many options we could think of (also evil ones)
You’d like to meet
I don't necessarily said that we should pile up votes ;)
To go over everything
But the votes are piled up.
Please don't provoke.
Uh, we have multiple other HH (Her_Her for example), probably refer to me differently.
I honestly have no vote counts atm, so I assumed that my vote was a second vote at most
Still, I am the one with most votes. Which isn't okay according to stupid reasons.
Hey guys if i drank milk and i eat fish i wil die?
Now that you've been informed, move on.
Why you all ignored me i said hello
Electrolysis votes to lynch WheelProtoform
Let's keep the banter to a minimum in this game, Burdock?
Hellhound, we've not really been informed of anything other than you confirming a visit
I think we need to wait for more intel to confirm or deny Hellbound being a vamp
alright, I'll back off
So, you're just happy to lynch any visiting roles caught? Good to know.
Awiem votes to lynch Landfill
I did drop a lot of hints today though.
Before the Harlot claimed.
Hellhound, I feel you're doing a straw man here: putting an extra vote on you is not the same as lynching you, it's morning damnit
Who is harlot? I didnt read back. There is too much chats!
it's good to shake things up and see what people are about, I feel this has been informative.... we can move on now
"too much chats" already
Says the person who posts song lyrics or sth.... Ugh
turns out, when you glorify the length of prior games, people talk shit just for the sake of it
Burdock votes to lynch AutonomousSurfaceVehicle
No, I'm complaining about why there should be unnecessary pressure just because someone could be a vamp. You don't pressure unless you at least had the tiny thought of that person being evil deep inside your mind.
ic. pls enligheten me more
What the hell is going on with you guys
I dont wanna play this game more lynch me
landfill hasn't said anything
And you're doing a lot of bantering at the moment for a guy who said not to banter much.
Wolves vamps kill me tonight thnx
I am with @Hellbound here atleast wait for more intel
Thank you, coven master mem.
I leave for ten minutes...
We still need landfills info on their visit too
Technically, that was 25 minutes.
Disagree on pressure, the more (and varied) people we put pressure on, the better our ability to read their reaction and judge their voters.
Idk dude I don’t time myself taking a shower I guessed
Well, you've read mine, and it was not an appreciating one.
Does hellhound stills have the most votes? I’ve refreshed a ton and still can’t see them
Also, Hellhound, if you're claiming a visiting power, but don't want to claim further than that, how does it help us if you die tonight?
Hellhound has one vote according to what I can see.
Yes he has one vote
Nothing stack from this POV.
He moved. There were two.
And when there's a lead, it always tends to pile up.
I blame laziness for that pile
Whatever the cause is, it should be acceptable for all sides to protect themselves, whether it be passively or aggressively.
Did her-her say if they’d had any redirects or roleblocks last night? Or anything that might hint at what visited her?
I'm more waiting to counterclaim my role. OR, I'll claim if I get an interesting intel other than the one I've already hinted at the beginning of today.
Anyway, we see what Landfills gotta say. In the midst of all that, if Burdock is indeed a HM, like why would you out yourself dude
Counterclaiming your role? You think your role only one and only in this ext?
Whatever role that is
At least that's a standing point.
So, I'm not allowed to have my way of pressure on others?
What do you mean han
Why you look so evil
alright I’ll bite and look for this damn hint you mentioned
I didn't wanna point out that I've already hinted today before the Harlot claim. It's already rendered the point of hinting useless.
Burdock seems to be playing the spew nothing but bullshit game
Cuz you guys make me angry then I would come out! Hah anyway one huntsman is one huntsman:) if you are not evil, its important two have even one huntsman
Look, no one is pressruing Landfill. See? That's why I had to speak up for myself.
I was reading back. So I might have miss your hints
if we have a HM then we have possible wolves
Not sure why they are gunning after you
Witch votes to lynch Landfill
now we have a weak fking pressure
At this point of time, I will take all Factions are in play
Yeah, I'm assuming that there are multiple factions and possibly multiple groups of the same faction.
I want a Beholder, if there's any, to be on me tonight.
Now that's narrowed down the pool.
Witch automatically gains my trust now even if she lies since there are only Insom and Harlot that can get visits correctly in her case, and I'm confirming my visit.
Insom is a nice bait, but I doubt the setup would be that cruel to have a vanilla in such a "special" game.
Never say never
Alright I think I found the “hint”
If you read my hint correctly, you should know who to sus, ASV.
Unless you don't trust me, then, of course I'd be on that list myself.
That assumes I believe I u
Withholding judgement atm
I won't be here in the evening.
Can anyone repeat my request about Beholder being on me tonight, then?
why the hell are u talking abt ASV?
The Excel will do the honor i guess
u visited someone else, then how'd u be sure that ASV
I don't think that was what he meant
He was saying to ASV
Wtf are u talking about?
Uh... that ASV was to "call for his attention"?
He was talking to ASV, not about ASV
Read again, Witch.
Something like this^
Yarp there you go
[Text], [Person you're talking to]
I just found this guys supposed hint on his role earlier is what we were talking about witch
Yeah, I hinted my intel, but didn't wanna say it out loud. Then, you said you found my visit, so I confirmed your visit. Then, I was pressured, so I said that I left the hint.
Burdock votes to lynch Landfill
Burdock votes to lynch Werewolf
Witch... I'd appreciate it if you come back and confirmed you've reread and comprehended stuff correctly.
I just feel that pressuring just u ain't fair
I don't get why u feel ASV's sus
or did i reread wrong
He doesn’t dude
Omg, read what we just discussed above.
He said if I found HIM sus
I said that ASV should know who he should sus.
It's not that far up
Or, if i read his hint right, I’d figure out who he considered is sus
this is more of a circus then usual
Technically, you misread Witch
so, hell, do u find her her sus?
You guys are making my hint more and more pointless if I say it outloud.
I'm not paying for your sleeping service at this rate Witch.
I wan't one too.
Coz I'm a good hound.
hellbounds are hounds who were bad
It's in the past.
Okay, be right back. Need to go fishing
I’m leaving soon and won’t have guaranteed WiFi jsyk
I'm sticking around here for a bit. Won't be here during the later half of daytime.
Will tell when I leave.
Landfill didnt claim?
And cuz of this he has 2votes
Well, at least I spoke.
The tide will turn when he speaks.
Landfill hasn't been here, I don't thinm
Maybe he is busy
To add to my earlier point, that's why I'm not joining the pressure on him.
Ill comeback at night to vote who has most votes
Could just be a TZ thing.
2 votes seems enough then, just the slightest pressure.
Burdock, please have discretion while wagonning.
I wonder how many new roles are in this game
and wow that lag
oh that lag
I tpye a message then have to reload the page
The lag is not great
yeah its every once in a while
I think we shouldn't kill TheServer, because then the lag might get worse
or maybe it would trigger a 404
Lot of chat, lot of lag.
How do you even read that name?
How about just B12?
B12 seems good.
BeXIIder votes to lynch Dead
Harry_1998 votes to lynch Hellhound
I hate hinters
Havent read much more than hell hounds bs
And yesterdays code about the Thigh Veiler
So what? Being uncontributing, using a too lazy to read as an excuse, and just vote a visiting role because it'd disrupt your evil plans?
Tell me more.
Talk dirty to me. I'm listening.
I didn't even get caught visiting a night death. And I spoke in my regards unlike the other person gotten seen with me.
Lazy much, Harry boy?
tbh the person who has claimed they saw you visiting was a little overzealous
it's okay to sit on that info imo
But they got it correctly. So, shrugs.
Unless Landfill says otherwise.
But yeah, since it wasn't lethal, I agree they shouldn't have potentially outed four roles this early if we all end up being village.
(themself, the two visitors, and the person visited)
Just keep swimming...
Guys, I don't think anything bad had happened to me yesterday.
Not saying Hellhound isn't evil though...
What about Landfill?
So you think I hit a prot on you with a Harlot on top of it?
Try checking if you get any coven or recruit message.
I know one thing, you can't kill. At least not now.
If you were evil, a witchhunter would blow your cover.
Oh, so I'm a coven? Then, explain my visit.
Did you get a Harpy message?
You cant be coven, at least not with your hint
Jeez, I get what you're trying to claim...
Of course you would, you know exactly that you've been caught.
Hellhound votes to lynch Her_Her
Idk why asv seemed sus to u
I, and multiple other people, have explained to you countless times.
If you aren't gonna read.... *breathes*
If I were evil, wouldn't I be trying to prove you evil, hellhound?
Be a better coven.
Both of you.
I am village aligned... can you calm down?
Hmm. So what are you?
I swear, you're playing dumb at this rate.
I did NOT accuse ASV.
I'm starting to think you are a bloodhound, and doesn't realize I'm village aligned because of what you saw my role was
And you would be wrong, I am village
It's already hard to keep up with chat!
Her_Her, what's your role?
Well, I don't care if it's hard, we literally "mentioned" her, and answered to her several times of that same question.
She just keeps asking it.
Her_Her, I can't see a role. But I do have an information of you.
Right, well just tell us please
F#ck it. Lynch Hellhound if I die.
There's no point fighting to conceal that information now because it just makes you a bigger target
Fine. I mean, they're literally making me have to.
She's a magic user. And I don't like how she "just keeps swimming".
I'd like to avoid any ambiguity around potential new roles
so, "yes" or "no" please
Fasvnty votes to lynch Harry_1998
I don't believe Hellhound.
With the hint I saw earlier, I thought he was seer.
It's all about memes this game, so my hint was about memes as well.
Now he's backing out
His hint was too specific to be a witchhunter
well just investigate HellHound
So, Her_Her, why might a bloodhound think you're evil when you're actually village?
I did say to have Beholder on me, right? That'll prove me.
Her_Her votes to lynch Hellhound
petty things on day 2 get us nowhere
I dropped a hint about a magic/super natural related meme.
Promise you won't lynch me, I'm a new role
So, a new magic user role. What could that possibly be?
I really didn't want to reveal, you would all lynch me instantly
But I"m an illuminati leader. I'm an alternate version of a mason leader
An alternative version, eh?
The fact that Hellhound mentioned Illluminati early on, made me thought he knew I was an illuminati leader
Are you for real?
Now I know he's bloodhound
So in what way do you differ from the regular Mason Leader?
If this is a play to use my "memes as hint" statement, you're ridiculous. But I'll give you that you got the guts.
That's my secret weapon
I'll recruit Hellhound tonight
If I die, please lynch Hellhound
I die to recruiting evils as well
I really don't know what I do
Good, perfect, because I am a WH, and an actual Witch could just kill you through protection.
To frame me.
Also, seriously, Illuminati Leader?
Is your role a witchcraft user?
I don't know what to feel about this.
I don't know.
I don't know much about this
although I think I am a village role
I'm alone in this void with this blue chat, so I assume I'm village
It should tell you on the role description.
At least the faction.
or ask a mod if it doesn't
I don't think it does
Electrolysis, role please
If you're alone by yourself, like a Cult Leader or a Vampire, you have my pity. But, I still don't believe you fully about this "new" role.
I think my role is bugged
I don't believe you too Hellhound
That reference was too close to be true
what if I said Drunk
oh ho ho
It's meme season, and to be fair, Entrosy is in this game, you could be making all this up.
a Drunk, eh
I bet you're a drunk TR
that'd stop you using your power N1 xD
I don't buy illuminati leader as a replacement Mason role.
Yeah, the role's name does not even resemble anything.
Like, if it's the same, why even have it?
Well, you could lynch me, and lose an opportunity to confirm villagers
Its all up to you
Maybe tell us about your "secret weapon". Or are you buying time to make it up as well?
No, I am not
Haven't you hear of the Illuminati, Hellhound?
I mean, I literally made the Illuminati meme as the witchcraft user hint. But I don't really know much about it other than it being a meme related to magical stuff.
I'm sure we all know who/what the illuminati are.
I only know that it's just an eye in a triangle.
the funny thing is in conspiracies the illuminati is also the masons
The issue is whether an illuminati role, that's the same as a Mason is a Village role.
It's like a shadow organisation found in conspiracy theories
yeah same with the masons
You were dodgy to chat as heck today and I saw you as wc user, what else should I think of you other than coven?
And you're refusing to talk about your role "after I've been forced to reveal mine".
If Electrolysis is Drunk, easy enough in a game this size to give time.
You know that I can pull the trigger anytime since I've already tagged you, right?
Walsh votes to lynch Her_Her
Hellhound, I fear that you may not be able to use your ability because Succubus might redirect you onto Her_Her and so kill her
If Her_Her is lit, in that case?
or we'd need visit intel for that
Yeah, I said that I did not want to claim exactly because of this.
In that case, yes - I'm distrustful of the illuminati claim thus far
WH is very vulnerable to Succubus.
Well, at least, I can track their Djinn swap involving Her_Her, now.
In case of not lit^
the illuminati claim is odd
Electro, anything more on your Drunk role?
but then again I have never seen a Drunk role either
well I have no special abilities and have to "Sober Up"
I think the claim is likely true, as to the name. I don't think the role is Village aligned.
If we were to compare it to general Drunk role to physical copies of Werewolf, they're vanillager until a specific night in which they become a new role.
And the new role is totally random.
Your faction might change.
But, we don't know if the moderators would make it like that^
It's just my guess.
I don't think I want to die tonight
Hence, I don't know if recruiting Hellhound is a good idea
The way he was so defensive when I was even accusing him...
The way he pointed out my name straight out
The way he chose a claim that could kill...
Well, to be fair, any evil can kill you to frame me as well.
They can, thats why I ask for protection
And I didn't "choose a claim", I "chose to claim".
thats probably the case Hellhound
Harlot can't be on you. What can we do about it if a Witch decides to snipe you?
And now, I'm nervous about using my ability because as mentioned, Succ.
You forced me to claim just because I was a WC-user
In which I was under your radar, for eternity
You forced me to claim just because I hinted that you were a wc user.
I don't see any reason nbehind that action
Well, technically, you weren't the one forcing me.
But ppl pushed me harder than Landfill for whatever reason.
Exactly. The others forced you, then you forced me
Mod likes drunks because they let him balance the game later on, if needs be.
I'd expect there to be more than one
If you guys want to lynch me, fine. You asked me to claim, I claimed. You asked me to contribute, I did. Its your loss as well if I die
wait Drunk isn't a new role
Drunk isn't a new role?
It's in IRL werewolf
Kills a guy randomly I think
In IRL Werewolf, there is also a variation of Drunk that he is a vanillager until night 3, and he sobers up, learns his real role (randomed) and faction.
I don't know about the other version that a Drunk kills.
The Drunk who learns their role later is the only form of drunk I'm aware of.
But pretty sure I haven't seen a Drunk on ww.es before.
Hmm... maybe I have mistaken
Can we settle this later and move on to making Landfill talk? But I still don't believe the Illuminati. It doesn't sound very villagey.
I don't believe you, but lets not argue
Can you move your vote off me?
Her_Her votes to lynch Landfill
Hellhound votes to lynch ASV
The game is so big though. Why only one masonry? Did you see anyone at night?
I'm with the "finds out role later" understanding of the Drunk
hence suggesting a Drunk TR
Not trying to argue. But you know, new role, no information.
"why only one masonry?"
how do you know there's not more?
By that, I meant, one mason leader-like role.
All Mason Leaders have their chat connected since night 1.
So, asking if she could see any of her friends.
she said it's not a mason leader
But she said it is similar, can recruit, with a secre weapon.
maybe there are other masons, she claimed illuminati, it's different
I am strongly advocating for a Her Her death here.
I am separate from mason, but we both have the same goal
If I weren't village, i would have claimed something more believable...
Or, you know, in case of "two or more Illuminatis" seeing each other.
That was a reasonable question in my head.
I'm the only one
In my head.
Not if you thought Hellhound knew your role.
If you thought Hellhound knew you were Illuminati, claiming something else would out you to Hellhound.
Well, true, but would he look sillier or would I look siller if he said I was illuminati?
Would you believe him?
Uh, to be fair, the only roles that can know others' role are GD and BH.
And you wouldn't claim one of those two after visiting a living person.
Can someone give me a summary?
That is a reasonable question. But then you don't know what Landfill saw.
Witch claims Harlot, seeing Hellhound and Landfill visiting Her_Her
Who cares what landfill saw? I'm just telling you all the truth, cause you wanted it, and I don't know why you are still attacking me for it.
Hellhound claims WH, seeing Her_Her as wc user
Even if you were Bloodhound, you would know the role is not on your team. I guess you wouldn't deal with that publicly though.
Landfill has not talked at all.
Her_Her claims a new role, Illuminati Leader.
Entro claims a new role, Drunk.
I'm not attacking you, I'm just saying I disbelieve the claim.
And that's it.
Or, I disbelieve that you have a rebadged Mason role that is still Village aligned.
Basically, you would have believed me more if I hadn't claimed
This was a mistake, a bloody mistake
I haven't said that. I've said I don't believe the claim.
And if they visited Her_Her, and Her_Her is still alive, then maybe their claims are false
They may be, I'm dealing with Her Her in isolation to the other claims.
I think it's reasonably likely that Witch is legit though.
I trust Witch because she got my visit correctly. Others have their own thoughts.
I think Walsh may be onto something here. I'm wondering whether Illuminati Leader might be a coven-aligned ML-type role, converting players to the Coven?
I was imagining it as a solo new faction role.
Coven has already been buffed lately, not sure if it would be given such an addition though
it sounds awesome, but then in a terrifying way
anyway, it's conjecture
If there is only Illuminati in this game but no Masons, and Illuminati works just like Masons, it doesn't make sense to create the new role anyway. If IIluminati and Masons are both village-aligned secret societies, I don't really see how they would interact. What if a player is recruited into both factions? Double night chat functions are off-limits afaik. So would they form one big society? Doesn't sound natural to me either...
Her_Her, I really hope you would be able to give some more insight into what distinguishes the Illuminati from the Masons, otherwise I have to conclude you're probably evil?
I can't recruit Masons
So we're competing, in some sense
But why would we have two roles that are the same?
Why would Masons and Illuminati compete? And what would happen if both ML and IL try to recruit the same target at night? I know that you can't copy role info, and that new roles don't often have everything explained into outmost detail, but I hope you can give us as much as possible
Well, if we both try to recruit the same target, then it fails
We don't share night chats as well
No, not now
You pushed me to reveal my role, I'm not going to reveal that to the evils too
Is it a witch potion? :D
Sorry, I'll stop that. That was an attacking.
Great, now I might die too.
Back for a few, what’d I miss?
@ASV, search for the word in " "^
I suggest to read further up than the mentioned text, too.
For more details.
I half expected much lag, im glad its not the case
I scrolled thru a massive wall of text, harlot seems lit.
Lol so I have a fellow drunk in electro? Nice
Why would the Illuminati exist at all? Just an interesting way around straight buffing the number of Mason recruits?
Maybe it's not village-aligned, if it is true.
why would a ML type role be seen as a WC user
Magical "secret weapon"?
Amused no one caught on that I revealed my role this morning after it came out that Drunk is a role
yeah I noticed
Okay gonna fight lag to finish catching up
Ooooooh... coven masonry with magic broomsticks?
they can sweep other factions under the rug
Please, not with that kind of jokes.
on 2nd thought, 3 people on 1 person n1? out of 49? wild theory, but what if they're all in same faction trying to look lit.
Well, they have 49 people to choose from, but there are 49 people who do the choosing
I'm pretty sure I'm village-aligned
May I ask for a seer check?
Would that clear your suspicions
Would you let me live and give me protection?
But you said to lynch me if you die. That's literally a hole for a Witch kill right there.
And WH is the no1 threat to coven.
My weapon can take care of that
That is... very ambiguous.
It is, otherwise it wouldn't be secret
Just trying to keep swimming?
Anyways, I can assure you if a lit seer checks me, it'll come up as village
Illuminati secret weapon is turtles.
There's 2 ways to kinda confirm herher: A. recruit someone and they confirm(although they could originally be their teammate), B. Seer check(but the role may still have other motives)
Let go on strike and not kill anyone today
I mean come on, there's 49 of us, you think he's gonna let us not kill?
We probably need to lynch, that other coven role too
The one that can kill if there's a balance
Too many A-S-Vs.
Anyway, that's a Furie, Storm.
Thanks, I'd imagine a furie has been thrown in
I’m thinking this Illuminati role makes more sense if it’s part of a new faction tbh. IF it’s real, it doesn’t seem to fit existing factions
Just give me a seer check and stop doubting
This lag is shit
Then you guys will say i'm a direwolf version of coven
"just give me a seer check and a seer coming out and seer getting night killed"
Uh, I'm also worried about my own safety as a WH, too, you know?
Okay, what do you want?
Could be village with some spooky motives, do you know how many recruits you get? Does it say?
I can have 2 recruits maximum
If you're a true WH you are likely fully screwed, you will probably end up purged/witched
So... I shouldn't recruit him?
It also says you die if you hit an evil?
If I hit a wolf or a vampire, yes
I'm so gonna be surprised if none of us (me and Her) dies at night.
Yeah, refvealing was a stupid af idea
I can blame it off on my small af fish brain
Like, either she dies and I get framed, or the other way around, or we both die.
At least there are probably not 4 Succubi around to redirect everyone into death
Is the Illuminati secret weapon the ability to find Nemo?
Why are you all so obsessed with the secret weapon?
Its more effective unsaid
Because it's "fishy"?
No, its not fishy
Coven can't even touch me because of it
So don't worry about it
Are you immune to all kind of magics?
This sounds like a clone of VM than a clone of Mason.
I didn't say anything
I'm just guessing.
I mean, what am I supposed to think of.
DemonLord votes to lynch ArmoredSecurityVehicle
Her_Her, did you try and recruit last night?
Nope, I did not
There's only one illuminati leader, and I only have two recruits
Its precious to me
What do you mean?
I still find all this hardly convincing.
Suit yourself :P I have nothing to fear regarding intel checks
If you lynch me, then you suffer equally as much as I do
mightve missed what you said earlier @her_her, but did you say you are sure you are village-aligned?
Yes, I am
and that you are/are not a wc user?
That I don't know
But according to my check, she is.
is mason leader wc user?
im tempted to believe we have an illuminati, but i can't see the purpose of having one in parallel with masonry
She also mentions that she doesn't fear witch kill, nor fear coven in general.
And she has a "secret weapon".
you can't see the purpose of it?
foooooorty niiiiiiine players
@autonomoussurfacevehicle you got a point there, i like you already
I don't think mod wants mason leaders to be a coven/ familiar sniffer. Exposed coven/ familiar can claim illuminati from now on, thats possibly an explanation
How would it not still act like a sniffer? Unless it could recruit evils
ill put my vote on someone else, then move if we decide to lynch today in case of furie
if it is true, maybe illuminati is a new faction to recruit other evils.
Doesn't make any sense to buff Masonry
I think recruiting evils never works
I die from recruiting evils
Because any recruited evil knows about a whole faction
So we can exclude that line of thought, yes ;)
Doesnt seem like a buff to me
@Han, one of my suggestions as well
It isn't a buff
I'd say its a nerf
I don't explicitly trust Her_Her, but y'all are coming up with some bullshit oppositions to her claim
Thank you *sobs tears of joy*
Basically, you're just another ML on steroid with special weapon
Anyway, what should I do about tonight?
Should I stay put or do I fear no Succ and just check another person?
Pay the escort service @hellhound
I don't think I should recruit HellHound. Hellhound, please stay put, I don't want to die
But it's existance nerfs masons finding coven and fams
No one wants to die, Her.
Maybe except Tanner and Messiah.
I'm learning new stuff everyday
First you got the drunkard
Then the Illuminati
Now you have someone basking under the sun too much
Tanner isn't in werewolv.es
Its in somewhere else
Tanner means a leather cleaner, lmao. Not someone who likes to get tan.
I was making a reference to IRL Werewolf.
Tanner wins if he dies.
I know what's Tanner jobscope is
I'm just making a cheek in tongue remark
How close are we to following IRL ww?
I’m still here btw but typing on mobile rn is like pulling teeth
Is there Demon in IRL WW?
I chug the mobile off the hill.
I think not.
So do you wanna live or not?
You talking to me?
Narp, to Hellhound
Uh, everyone wants to live?
Of course, I do.
Hm, just to let you know Dory, I've caught couple of your fishy fwens
Then what is the issue, you get the escort service tonight. Pay some dubloons to Witch
Is she still confuse?
i could recruit witch, if thats what you're asking me to do
I'm still trying to get around the idea of Illuminati
She is still C-worded.
Like, she didn't even read the @Witch, I believe.
What kind of New World Order you're bringing to this Village
Are we advancing to Cryptocurrency now
Well, Han, potions go through protection, both kill and purge.
Anyway, I'm gonna laugh my ass off if Witch still accusing you
Anyway, let's just all vote for Her Her.
See 12:38, Han.
@Walsh, don't you think the equivalent of a mason leader warrants at least a seer check?
Her_Her, do you redirect witchcraft abilities back on the user?
asking for a seer check is just super dangerous
I'm not a god
You answered this, but avoided my guess.
So, I'm assuming I got at least half correct if not all.
At this point @hell im thinking witch is fucking with us
But she got at least one visit (mine) correctly...
Didn't she get her checks right?
And is the cause of all this.
We can't really get much out of her until Landfill speaks up.
hellhound is probably getting purged soon
lit or not
Do you have some antimatter? @H_H
This is so Angels & Demons by Dan Brown
Han, I don't understand you
I really don't
this is gonna get even more annoying when roles start being discussed, and they're the same names as players
Nvm, I'm just rambling
I'd like to actually be constructive!
I mean fucking with as in pretending not to understand what we told her
Since I've already revealed, any suggestions on who to recruit?
It will get even more annoying if it becomes like the swap of majecticbeautyconformityclippy bleagh
That is your call H_H
Why should she try to tick us off as a lit Harlot, though?
Maybe she's just really dense, or she is too lazy to read.
Han, can you make it more obvious?
I'm sorry that I'm slow
Yeah, Her_Her, I'm probably gonna get a potion, either a kill or a purge, whether I'm lit or not.
What I'm saying is
So vulnerable right now.
In my point of view, hellhound is either bloodhound or witchhunter, or a new role. Either way he's probably getting purged
Idk but that level of dumb can’t be real
Asking for suggestion on who to recruit doesn't seems to be ideal at this stage. So many thing can happen, you might get implicated if the target die etc you know. So that was why I said its your call
We pretty much needs luck on all of us here.
It's such a busy day 2.
Should we just do a full role-claim?
all 49 of us?
Her Her, wrt a Seer check, yes and no. I don't want a/possible multiple Seers to either cross check you or come out tomorrow because of you.
a full claim is ludicrous
That's like waiting for Durian to fall off the tree
at 47 players, at least 10 won't claim (through not being here or disagreeing with the idea)
Well, we have to do it anyways
Message to all evil factions... do not redirect WH to kill herher... and do not kill her her either... we need to see how this new role works
I don't think they'd listen to that RedBear
Calling people dumb isn't polite or helpful, maybe we can knock that on the head.
then you have the issue of working out what the balance of the game should be - you think a) the mod found that easy, and b) you will agree with mod?
@Han, don't you think Physics class would be much easier if that happened to Newton?
No Newton shit
How will I prove myself lit without seer checks?
It seems you guys don't really like the triangle with an eye
Make Half Life 3 real.
And we'll believe you.
honestly? recruit someone
get them to validate you
But don't turn them into aliens.
then we find a way to validate them, which validates you
diversify yo bonds
Ok, the problem with that is if I'm evil, and my recruits retain their ability, while being evil at the same time then it doesn't quite work
But I will do that
@welsh I said she was playing dumb
So create that Path of Ilumination tonight and hopefully, you will be vindicated tomorrow
Yes it took me that long to type that since welsh made that comment
I hate this
Damn, I wonder how the TLDR for today will turn out.
Hey Excel, I trust in your lyrical notes
I finnaly read all the conversation but it seem to be I forgot it all :)
Her_Her has to find an exit partner through this situation.
If only the High Turtle was here.
WeKillAlot votes to lynch Protectorphile
That's not something to smile about, WKA.
I do not believe it is a game to asv, we must decide on a lynch
And be wary of harpies
And furies and zealots
whats going on?
Here we go
can someone summarize
But we have not decide who to be lynched
Hey siamese twin
Oh look like a puppets
Even a random lynch is better than letting a furie decide
We don't have puppets in this game, I don't think
I think someone reported there was 47 at start, which increased to 49?
In the world of Dice and luck, what are the chances that both Han and Solo get rolled as puppet 1 & 2? Zilch.
Wekillalot - who do you think should be voted for from the people talking today?
What are the chances that Her_Her is actually him_him in disguise?
In fairness, I'd absolutely vote out an AFKer today. No passengers.
I'll need to go soon.
As mentioned before, I can't stay at later hours of the day.
Han Solo is dea
Same with me @HH
Han used -_- emoji.
Now Solo is usuing the opposite.
Do your homework Solo, its almost school
HH and HH gotta leave at the same time?
I call this Puppetry. Witch is the Master.
Hmm what's the chemistry for HH
Solo votes to lynch HatAss
I call it timezone
im just gonna vote whatever
No not reallly I just have IRL stuff to do
I so wanna read that name as FatAss.
Okay guys, honestly, irl priority
This game shouldn't get in your way to do sane stuff in your world
can someone teach me how to play league of legends
as a top laner?
theres 4X of us
someone should know right
I don't play LoL
Okay, see ya.
but ure my twin
u have to play
gotta go too
see ya dude
Exactly why we're the opposite on certain thing
even tho its super awkward
I play Dota
You play LoL
I'm a scoundrel
This is very weird...
You're a i dontknow
Suddenly, I feel annoyed if there's djinn in this setup. I feel like I will be the first getting troll swap. Okay nvm *think positive*
Actually, not first.
In case, there's someone later complaining swap
Alrighty, I'm gonna waltz off for a while
Guys, please don't vote me when I am not on
Should I die tonight, graverobber please rob me immediately. I know I might be one of the most suspected players in here, but its worth it. I'm truly an alternate version of Mason, you won't regret it
I believe in the Drunk role, sounds like a cool one to put in
illuminati leader, on the other hand, not so much
wny does Landfil has three votes already?
even if the role is real, I think it will belong to an evil faction
Because they are accused of visiting Her Her and haven't showed.
or its own faction
Villager, thats what the others think too
maybe Hellhound can kill Dory tonight
But I promise you, I'm village aligned!
Why would that be a good idea?
I would be extremely reluctant to vote out Landfill unclaimed.
you didn't recruit anyone N1, Dory?
No, I did not
so basically Illuminati has exact the same power as Mason, except that you are wc user?
You won't die if you recruit anybody right
If you guys lynch me, i'll die
you're getting over defensive now
if you recruit an evil, do you die?
I'm sorry, its just I'm not used to being accused by so many people
Yes, I do die if I recruit a vampire or a wolf @Villager
Her_Her reminds me of Couch (?) from ext-100
Half revealing the abilities of your role
well, you come up with a new role that offers every thing ML does, but much harder to be verified
of course you will be doubted
you know what happened to Couch? Coven killed him because they were scared
why is it harder to verify
other than being a new role?
Moral of the story: don't get killed by coven.
WH can verify ML, but can't with this new Illuminati thing
basically a safe haven for coven to fake claim
WH can't verify ML
what are you talking about?
Coven that game (ext-100
ah, just half-verifying, ML isn't masic user
lots of roles aren't magic users
"half verifying" get the fuck out
magic user doesn't equal bad, non magic user doesn't equal good
I said before that you all came up with some bullshit reasons to doubt HerHer
Your favorite wheeler here. I think it's a common thing to try and claim a role as village that is not. But I think it would be a bit early for herher to do that day 2. On the other hand why did she reveal anywayyyyy?
AutonomousSurfaceVehicle votes to lynch Villager
why make an exact clone of ML but give it wc-user status then?
that's a real-deal vote for Villager right there, no ASV
@WheelProtoform that was a bad choice on my end, I regret it now
Villager votes to lynch ArmoredSecurityVehicle
this is also a not-asv vote, you seem triggered lol
been a long time since I saw a straight up OMGUS vote
next I'll be "salty"
you come out here with bullshit and can't back it up
keep your buzzwords
you are demonstrating exactly what I meant, ASV
I'm doing it on purpose at this point
to demonstrate how pointless it is
your reasoning against HerHer is complete bullshit - discuss
your vote on me is therefore even more bullshit - discuss
I doubt a clone ML, except being a wc-user for no damn reason at all, that's BS?
when you justify it by saying WH can prove, yes
Yo yo yooo
It's cold outside. I'm freezing my bun.
lol you are nitpicking and avoiding the question at hand
OK so which one of you is Rob? One must be rob. Because that's one of those arguments.
I ain't hiding
But can we get back to topic.
H_H can you tell me what happens if mason tries to recruit you?
Did Landfill claim any role? I can't find it
avoiding the question at hand, Villager?
Oh @Jez bothing happens
apparently that's damning
Ok I'll test that tonight then.
I just don't find arguing with you being interesting enough
What? I'll try and harlot on me. If I don't die all good?
I'm sorry for dragging you into this AutonomousSurfaceVehicle
Ok, let me check back juuusssst to confirm
Jezebel, if you die this seems like a lot of resources to spend on a simple verification
I appreciatr you a lot tho jez
you shouldn't have outed
How many Harlots do we have?
Can't be an alley of Amsty
@Han: it's given in the role list at the start of the game...
Am I drunk
there was a role list?
be right back in 30
Holy shit, I feel like an asshole right now apart from being a scoundrel just for that
It's okay, I'll be noice
I looked back, I don't see a role list
ofc not, but I appreciate the people who scrolled up and checked
ASV, doubting someone's role claim is a pretty basic and normal part of Werewolf. Why are you so protective of Her Her?
'hey look! It says 'gullible' on the sealing'
@Awiem in case you don't get the sarcasm
Walsh - call me "auto", please
there's about 30 ASVs
Can do :)
doubting someone's roleclaim is perfectly acceptable
adding on extra reasons that make no sense is not
there's been a lot of that
from different people
I don't believe her
but I'm not inventing reasons for it
I only know I cannot recruit Masons. I don't know if you can recruit me, but I assume its not possible
those inventing reasons should explain them, and come under pressure if they're not good reasons
I don't know if you'd die because of it though @Jez
I assume not
I would assume so, too
He would if you're Evil :p. But also he can just be targeted for the kill regardless.
Auto, please elaborate on that thought about inventing reasons - I think it's a good point but I'm not sure I fully understood it
that make sense, Walsh?
I think the chains of proofs and such are extremely subvertable. Let's use old fashioned hunting and vote for people we think are bad guys.
Awiem - most recent one was Villager claiming WH could prove if mason leader was legit or not. That's simply false. Using that as justification to not trust HerHeri is wrong.
@Walsh, I agree
I've made my reasons for my vote.
Yeah, I'm fine with that. I guess I'm more focused on Her Her as a starting point.
I'm not trying to convince anyone, other than justifying my own reasons.
I have Witch, Auto and Awiem as Good on reads.
Well, maybe I'm biased, just played through a round where WH can situationally distinguish if the ML claim is village or coven
come to think of it, wolves rarely dare to fakeclaim ML, mostly coven
the main point is, why making a ML clone that is also a wc-user?
(assuming Hellhound is lit, of course)
@Villager, I can't answer you that, only Mod can. If I were coven, I would be better off claiming Protector.
And everyone asks about the purpose of a clone of ML. The purpose, I feel, is to nerf the Masons. Create conflict between the villagers. Decrease amount of recruits, breaking large trusted 2 ML parties into 1 ML and 1 IL (illuminati leader)
I'm not saying that that role has been made, I'm saying it's feasible
and HerHer sums up the reasons quite well
(not that doesn't mean it's preplanned, lol)
Have we had 2 separated ML parties before, or only 2 MLs in the same party?
And I can also prove myself of not being coven, if thats your main concern, by recruiting someone whose role cannot be faked by coven. Just, let me get to that stage first.
MLs are always in the same party
On the other hand, we illuminaties are independent from the mason
hmm ok, you made good points then
Thank you, please don't snipe me while I'm off. Its late, and I have to leave
thing is, if you are lit and Hellhound is lit, he probably will be redirected to you again tonight
time is ticking
Thats why I hope he can stay put
Or, at least until I get my two recruits, then I can die in peace
Anything else? If not I'm going
I'll leave :P
Bai please don't snipe me while I'm gone
*slowly rising up*
I haven't read up alllll the chat but... am I the only one who reads this
Witch Tue 10:12 I'd say either Landfill or Hellhound is sus, Dory was visited by both of them lol
Hellhound Tue 10:32 Alright, I'm going to confirm Witch's claim. I did visit Her_Her last night
wasn't Witch say Dory was visited, but... Hellhound confirmed he visited... Her_her?
*slowly fading out*
Her_Her has the avatar of Dory from finding nemo
Lurker: try finding a character named 'Dory' i n the player list...
oh yeah my bad, didn't realize that
any TLDR; up until now? I'm helpless on reading the whole chat :(
I will restrict myself to role claims:
Witch - Harlot - N1: Landfill and Hellhound visited Her_Her
If you ctrl-f TLDR, you'll find enough
Hellhound - Witch Hunter - N1: Her_Her is a user of witchcraft
Her_Her - Illuminati Leader: no recruit, explains role as a parallel to masons, with a 'secret weapon'
Electrolysis and ASV (Rob avatar): claim Drunk, no confirmation of function role yet
JezebeltheBun - Mason Leader - this claim is the most vague imo, no claim of recruit yet, but voiced intention to try to recruit Her_Her tonight
That's what I have right now, but I may have missed something. Squirrels
(now we'll just have to let people look up 'Squirrels and they get to this list)
bed time for me
awesome, thanks Awiem
so either Hellhound or Her_her is lying? because ML is not a wc user
Coven most certainly has a Furie (if not multiple ones) so if we balance today, it means cove has 1+ kill at night
no, Lurker - HerHer is NOT claiming ML
If possible, we should avoid balancing
so what's Illuminati Leader?
supposedly a new role
oh my gosh
Well, actually not confirmed yet
I'm kind of concerned that the three votes on Landfill might just be people who've checked in and buggered off.
Now, Landfill could be evil, but :/
it was a non lethal visit
i don't understand why so much pressure
@Walsh: one of the votes is mine. I do believe that the other 2 may have buggered off, but I at least can move my vote still
I'm retracting my vote on Villager
but leaving it there as anti-smite
I now see how they came to the conclusion to use the wording they used - even if it seemed wrong at first
No recruit so far. I may be bold, but I didn't plan to pull a ML from ext-100 and die n1.
I'm a bit suspicious of Walsh.
Jezebelthebun votes to lynch Walsh
Hi. I got 2 things to say...First, I tried to recruit Demons but failed...Second, Bun is not in Masons I didnt see her in the chat..........
Dead votes to lynch Demons
Dead, why did you decide to recruit N1?
One might argue that the risk of dying because of night kill is much smaller than the risk of dying because of a recruit on evil
Also: without giving any explicit names, can you confirm whether you were alone in your mason chat? As in: are there multiple MLs?
Why vote for Demons over Jezebel?
I think there might be a chance of separate mason team?
Do MLs see each other at start of game like evil factions see?
(as in: "<NAME>: I am Mason Leader")
I think so
Because this would exclude that you and Bun just missed each other (which still smells fishy, but it's possible)
I'd also say it's not impossible to have separate mason teams
it's been discussed
I think so, too
especially with the alleged Illuminati
I think Dead's claim throws shade on Demons more than on Bun at this stage (but both require investigation)
Anyway, Demons is EVILLLLL
Awiem votes to lynch Demons
I would have thought it extremely unlikely that we have separate Mason teams and a separate Illuminati group that is also good aligned masonesque
Awiem, why the automatic belief of Dead?
I hesitate to believe either side but it seems not likely for an evil to boldly come out and frame 2 people at the same time like that, unless it's a puppet play
Walsh - in a normal game, sure
but foooooorty niiiiiiine people
things are different here
First of all, it seemed like a lynch vote on Landfill is unwelcome at this stage (so now it's balanced). Secondly, the single event of a failed recruit is more likely to be verifiable than the mason/illuminati stuff. Thirdly, I agree that it's unlikely that all 3 claims (by Bun, Dead, and Her_Her) are true, but I don't know which one is lying yet.
Okay, cool. I'll vote out Demons.
Walsh votes to lynch Demons
It's also good to lure out Demons now, they haven't appeared yet and should speak today, defend themselves
They haven't showed up yet, so should check in later, and if not, it's hardly a waste
DEAD IS NOT A MASON
care to explain
There are 2 Mason Leaders but dead isn't
I was about to say inb4 another ML claim...
Phantom votes to lynch Dead
so what's the other ML, Phantom?
I don't think I should reveal that but if she wants to come out I'll leave that up to her
If we get more Mason/Illuminati claims in one game we can rename it to tinfoil-200.
If it's Jezebel, they've already claimed.
is Jezebelthebun the other ML, Phantom?
When did she come out?
Up there somewhere ^^^^^^^^
To try and firm up Her Her's claim
I'll totally not asv right now, until the dust settles a bit. This is wild at the moment.
WheelProtoform votes to lynch KirschSetup
Man, we should title every day. Today is 'Battle of the Masons/Illuminati' or something like that, anyone that can turn that phrase better? :)
I just want the Bun to confirm you, Phantom
I'm gonna flip the table if another ML claim comes up and counterclaim all the other MLs
lol, so now we're not looking at ML vs ML
we're looking at multi ML vs singular ML
seriously guys, forty nine people, it's still possible it's multi vs multi
Linked claims: Jezebel and Phantom. Witch and Hellhound
In a 49p setup, you have to consider stuff, but we still have to find reasons to vote for someone.
Ah, Jezebel, please can you advise why you find me suspicious?
Phanty, codeword now please.
oh god, "phanty" haha
We didn't discuss a code word and you didn't suggest one cos I didn't show up last night :((
PLEASE BREAK DOWN AND ACCUSE OF FRAUDERY NOW
This would be the best day ever
But you said hello
Daymn I hoped you'd type some random jizz and frame me. Hmmm.
DiggingTime votes to lynch Phantom
Are you claiming Phantom is NOT a ML with you?
I guess she didn't realise that she had a partner because I missed n1
daymn, this is hard. You shuuuure there is a msg at the start of the game for masons?
No, there never has been
Well, you can confirm if you said hello, at least.
That's why 2 ppl both recruited the same person once cos they didn't realise there was another
Phanty give me a hint about night chat. I mean you can still read it even if you missed the night.
You just said hello
I can't quote exactly can I?
Daymn, Phanty could be lit :/
Watch me tonight guys. I can check it tomorrow
We both know that Dead is lying though
could there be a role that can read all the night chat? xD
If you're real, it's a bold ass move for Phantom to claim a link to you. Like, yeah, you could die tonight and Phantom could have some tenuous link but nah
Lurker votes to lynch Dead
Jezebelthebun votes to lynch Demons
Jezebelthebun votes to lynch Dead
Lurker, if that were true, Phantom wouldn't necessarily know the real ML (or the game is broken, and I assume it is not)
Oh 2,2,3 votes! Im here to change my vote if you need
You got the wrong "D" bby ;)
2(demons votes) 2(vm votes) 3(wolves or covens votes)
well, it's still showing Demons has 4 votes
I've got 4 on Demons and 4 on Dead
I'd still rather kill Her Her :p
Yea now is 4,4 fight between wolves and covens haha
?? What do you mean "between wolves and covens"
I dont mean anything its lit:D
Well, I have no idea what you're on about, but I shall let it pass as you seem happy.
So, I actually read through all this
ChangeOfHeart votes to lynch Her_Her
asv while I read back
============ Summary ===========
1. Witch came out in the morning, claimed Harlot and said that Her_Her was visited by Hellhound and Landfill last night
2. Hellhound confirms his visit, says that he is suspicious of Her_Her (Or that he hinted at it)
3. After some discussion, Hellhound claims to be a WH, and that Her_Her is a WC user - which was the reason for his suspicion, together with Her_Her not actively participating
Oh, hey. Huge wall of text I'll never get through
4. Her_Her claims to have a new role: the "Illuminati leader". Her_Her assumes that it's village algned due to the blue night chat (?).
Working on it, Landfill
Properties of the Illuminati Leader are according to Her_Her: 1. mostly like a ML 2. ML and IL can't recruit each other 3. Immunity from witchkill (?) 4. a secret weapon
Meanwhile, Electrolysis came out and claims to have a new role too: the "Drunk" - although he doesn't know his ability
It follows a long discussion on what to think of Her_Her and what to do in general: Most ppl are suspicious of Her_Hers alignment but not role
I visited her_Her last night as well, and they are NOT coven
Then, Jezebel comes up, claims ML and offers to confirm Her_Her by recruiting them
Not Coven? Are you claiming Coven Seer or something?
@Phanty here’s the deal. In case I die tonight I’ll give you this riddle, I’ll tell you the answer and the explanation in Mason chat. If I die you’ll be able to explain it tomorrow to everyone: What is the soul of evil, while not being evil itself? What is the soul of good while not being good itself? What is the purpose of lies while it being entirely truthful! Bonus hint: it’s not tempt.
Also, I don't think I'm wildly keen on voting out Dead tonight :/
if you're all telling the truth, someone needs to do a psychological survey on the reason so many people want to check on fucking Dory
Finally Phantom comes online and tells us that he is a ML with jezebel, which jezebel /basically/ confirms
Landfill was one of the original accused visitors
No, I'm not coven seer, but I get info from visits
Also, there was some weirdness in the morning: 919 didn't appear to be dead at first, which then was corrected
I didn't confirm it. But I have to admit my night chat activity was rather minimal. So he could be lit or not. But I made the riddle above to solve this.
Well, I think I got most of it
REMEMBER THE RIDDLE
without saying too much about my role, I can assume, based on my info, that HerHer is not coven
Now, I could be wrong, and misinterpreting, because it's 200
Please don't call Phantom Phanty - we have a Fasvnty
Just in case, Hellhound has said that Her Her IS a user of witchcraft. Does your info contradict?
could be an entirely different thing happening
Now my take on this: I think Hellhound coudl very well be evil: I don't think he had enough evidence to assume that Her_Her was evil
what role could confirm someone is not a coven?
except another WH
@jezebel: Didn't Phantom give enough information about night chat?
I don't think Hellhound initially did think Her Her was evil?
He just hinted we had witchcraft users (hardly a shock). Her Her became more likely Evil when she claimed the Illuminati role
Apparently he can read it, so your riddle wouldn't help - you should just ask him to just talk in mason chat if you want more confirmation
HELLO MORTALS! It is "Twerk Vision" "Trump Voting" "Troll Vagina" here, you all FAILED to decode the code! You have ALSO committed crime against women with those inappropriate jokes! Now you shall die!
No, my talk was pretty generic and short since there wasn't much to do. I think the riddle helps me testing the Illuminati and and him. So I can actually recruit tonight. The riddle is if I die.
If Phatny can read it, it will be no problem tomorrow if I'm dead for some reason.
Oh my chat lagged and now thousands of new lines just popped up.
@bun why don't you just ask Phantom more details about what you wrote last night?
SoSlowww votes to lynch redbear
Wait, did you say anything besides hello?
like, was "hello" the only sentence you wrote
or what was your last sentence
You were too slow, SoSlowww
I have spinned the color wheel
ok, then we assume for now that he is confirmed - he said that it was your only sentence and was right
Look I planned to check back but didn't.
Slowwwww ctrl-f "summary"
@Landfill what is your role?
I have read the chat my friend Walsh. redbear has committed dangerous crime and must be lynched!
Color wheel...? That sounds
I will humble myself and follow the call!
Yes StormSetup, now I have the power...
But my power is... limited. Yet unlimited.
I don't feel good about giving full role details at this time, honestly
your intel pls SoSlowwww?
what did redbear do?
As I said.
Yesterday I spinned the color wheel
give me a few more night to gather more info and learn how it actually works?
Now I have the power!
redbear, called me a troll vagina! I want to cry!
WTF is this game
oh so you're a new role too, Landfill?
I might be, rabbit
so cry out loud, but slow, SoSlowwww
Protectorphile votes to lynch ArmoredSecurityVehicle
Landfill votes to lynch Hellhound
What an interesting turn around! Landfill and Hellhound different alignment it seems!
I was not recruited by the mason! Why is that!
There are village aligned WC users
they don't necessarily conflict
But their statement contradicts each other!
Hellhound only saw that Her_Her was a Witchcraft user
Oh my goodness, I couldn't get this to work at all on mobile
Landfill only said that Her_Her is not coven
The info I got didn't explicitly say not coven, just to be clear
I see! Thank you Protectorphile for your protects!
it's how I'm interpreting it
but it would be weird if they were a WC user at all
Can you elaborate, Landfill?
I really don't want to put everything out there on D2
I can say that I trust Her_Her far more than Hellhound
and I'd like to try to figure out the role more before giving specifics
I'll say that I search for heretics
That's as much as I want to go into detail right now
And now I'mma ask for some protection
We village elders have defended ourselves against BRUTAL arson attack years ago. It is time to shine again!
What would a heretic entail hmmm?
I'm hmmmmmming the difference between Hellhound and Landfill.
While tying that into my dodgy as anything read on Her Her
Storm, that's the question
I don't know what heretic means in this game
Does it mean coven? WC user?
Her Her didn't seem to argue that they weren't a WC user, either.
It doesn't hint at what heretic is in the role description?
What did I just walk into
At least we have a lot of links and such in the info.
Basically, you're saying you're a "Saint"
Landfill! Do you even 100% know who you are!?
Why are you shouting every sentence, soslowww?
To confirm right now, we need to decide who to kill between Demons, who is a reported failed Mason recruit for Dead, and Dead, who has been countered as a ML by Jezabel and Phantom.
Remember, there is likely a new evil faction, too
I would rather kill Demons than Dead. It seems possible we could have separate Mason packs, but Demons still hasn't turned in and it seems weird that Dead would just randomly claim and try to get us to kill that person
Yeah, I don't like lynching dead given all of the new possible roles
Or vote Her Her :p
I can't really get on board with that
I know Her isn't a heretic
are there evil not heretics?
I think Dead is the best lynch - if they are evil, then they're just framing demons.
But for what gain? It's D1.
Eh, first day we can vote.
Heretics meant for all evils I guess.
But if a GD comes out tomorrow who we're reading as Good and says Demons was a Villy, Dead is just outed for no gain.
If Heretics means all Evils, isn't Landfill just a Seer then?
He hasn't fully divulge his ability
Because of my role! I have to be screaming every sentence! I feel so superior and useless at the same time! I can't vote any of them because I have no details of what Landfill's role is! Who is considered heretic! Who isn't considered heretic! I think my role might be heretic even though I am village aligned!
I can help here.
I wouldn't mind Dead to be lynched! He claims Mason and did not recruit me!? FOOLISH MORTAL!
Have you been bad mouthing the pope?
If yes, you are probably a heretic.
Pope is nothing compared to my role!
Boy, RP is strong with this one
The only thing that is above me is God! God -> SoSlowww's role -> MORTALS!
You're a demigod?
Who is your daddy?
Oh no! It seems like I have zero understanding of history so there might be a few more people above me in the hierarchy!
Wait, are YOU the pope?
I thought I am above the Pope!
The Pope is pretty high up there tbh, if that's your bag.
I thought Google was enough for me to learn who I truly am and what my position is in the...
ARE YOU THE POPE'S BAG?
NO! NO MORE FOOLISH THOUGHTS!
I am above ALL of you in the werewolv.es ext-200 village for sure!
I would love a role that was the Pope's bag.
SoSlowww votes to lynch Dead
Now Dead will die! In my hand!
Pope's Bag in 2018
As long as he is no a Saint. Looking at that insanity.
*glares at Dead voters*
7 layers of Heaven in topsy turvy thanks to Insane Saint
SoSlowww = parity seer? At last?
Are you coven?
I am not a parity seer! I have leaved the clue! I have a color wheel! I spin it! Then I have POWER!
So you are the Vanna White in the parallel Universe
I could only spin the color wheel yesterday while powerless with my GRAND title
Or would you prefer Bob Saget
If Landfill's thing is also to do with colors that could explain the vagueness
Oh no! More references that I cannot understand! Google help!
Otherwise I don't like WH dude so far
Oh, Slowww, are you what I know as a Magician - diff powers each night?
"So you are the Vanna White in the parallel Universe" *dies*
I spin the wheel! It landed on $1000! I guessed the letter B! I hope there is a letter B!
*falls asleep because of exhaustion of screaming and shouting and dealing with mortals that are inferior to me*
I'm inferior to most people, but I'm still okay
I read Slowwww as Good too. So I have Slowww, Awiens, and whoever else it was. Witch. And someone else. Crap.
I'm awful at word puzzles but I do have it open :'( I'm tryingg
Maybe slowww's alignment is decided by the wheel as well
Anyway, it sounds like a new role so guessing the name doesn't seem so important
Apparently it was Auto. I'm writing this down.
It could give a clue as to what it does, I guess, but even that seems like it wouldn't tell much about that particular role
Wait, Walsh is that a role?
He's saying he read Auto as good
Just by behaviour?
I'm not locking it in, I'm just putting them in my trust circle for today.
What, my vague new role claim didn't put me in your trust circle, Walsh?
Slowww, is your thing magic or non magic do you know?
Sorry Landfill, I am happy to extend a seat slightly closer to the circle than say, Demons and Her Her.
NotCoven votes to lynch Dead
Something a bit too easy about his claim but I wanna see him fight the mason pair
I mean WHY ALL THE DOTS
I finally get on and it's dead here?
I sure hope my browser isn't broken
Nah, I wanna sleep. You're just happen to cross the Null Junction at the moment. Wait for the traffic. It will come soon
oh jesus there's so much to read already
wait? are we lynching today?
i'll have to sit and read it all after tea
Whadafrak, a bowl
Lel. must have been a microdick
well you don't want to eat them out of a bag like some commoner
It took like an hour to read
yeah... there is too much to read and not even all the people are active yet...
imagine the walls of text if all of us were active
Oh yeah vote
redbear votes to lynch Iceclaw72
I had to ASV
Han votes to lynch Spud
also! Here is another meaning to ASV! "Assigning Suspicious Vote"
yeah i'll be back later after i've read up, thought I could quickly catch up before I sort tea out
that clearly ain't gonna happen
back later then
In a village of this size, we need to be voting people out every day, just to make the game manageable :P
Do Ihave to stack on Demons
If you ctrl-f "summary", the meat of the day is described.
4 seems good on him
Oh, cos of the harpy thing?
But for some reason my message on dead is issing
Eaten by the wall of text bug
Okay toodle doo
@Her_Her if you come back: Are you a WC-user?
Her_her didn't know
then let me put it like this: Does your special ability sound like it uses witchcraft?
Yeah, I was about to say that you could infer it from that.
Dead says that he is masonleader and failed to recruit you last night
No, not DemonLord
I thought it was Demons
Oh come on
Sorry, if you were trying to get a reaction, I have scuppered that :/
the mixup was not intentional
Iceclaw72 votes to lynch ChangeOfHeart
Did Hellhound reveal his hint?
Iceclaw72 votes to lynch WheelProtoform
Iceclaw, maybe do some talking with that voting?
Til there's a new role that silences....
Sorry I disappeared. I had to affix many shipping labels and curse like a sailor whilst doing so
So dead is dead no matter what, then?
hi sorry I was on my phone earlier
it was so lagging
the vote was just ats
so it got messed up
Iceclaw72 votes to lynch DemonLord
Seems like it.
I'm not sure what's the best move here
Walsh, what's your thought on this?
I don't think that Dead would just sacrifice themself for a Demons lynch
Basically we need a lynch, but don't really have decent info to go off of
I think Demons is a decent effort
If Dead is real, then Demons is Coven. If we GD Demons and he isn't Coven, Dead is fake and it pseudo-clears Jezabel (and Phantom?)
Demons has not appeared yet
I still think Her Her is not team Good.
And I'd vote for anyone who hasn't posted.
Can someone be evil but not a heretic?
That's my issue with that
Yet dead also has sketchiness to them, from the many masons
I'm still not entirely clear on the masons thing
Until we better understand your power Landfill, I don't want to condemn or save anyone from it.
I can understand that
Can you execute heretics? It feels like a weird wh clone
Honestly people could just be throwing out all kinda claims this game, next there'll be a Swamp leech or something
As far as I can tell, i cannot
Haha, swamp leech
I mean, I honestly could have just claimed WH if I wanted and given possibly false info
too much talking I can't keep track :((
Read the summary
I claim Swamp Leech.
Each night, I get to look in the Pope's bag to try and find the holy hand grenade. If I find it and use it, I am alerted to all WC users in the game.
ADD IT TO THE SHABSHEET
Also, thanks to Protectorphile for making the summary earlier
We must be careful this game of summary faker age, as it will take considerable to look back fully
Misinformation will be a lot easier in a game of this size
You think people would post a fake summary?
Because that wouldn't have occurred to me until you said it
I don't think anyone would dare, tbh...
I've seen it before, sometimes just misunderstandings can make it through
True, a slightly misinterpreted statement, something taken out of context, etc... it will be more subtle than saying something happened or someone claimed something that really didn't happen
Well, there is always an inherent bias in summaries
And looking back through a single day can take hours this game
There's always stuff left out
The main concern should be that important events are forgotten / left out
To win this game we have to make sure the right info is making it through, and enough villagers know what is going on, fully
Otherwise we will quickly losing voting control
The good news is that there are enough people to fact check in this game
That is true
So, if Dead turns out to be evil, that's going to put a bit of a spotlight on Walsh, I think
We need to be really aware of who is backing whom, and try to pick up on subtle alliances
StormSetup votes to lynch Dead
Knowing dead role would be very useful in sorting out some of this Mason madness
I'm wondering how many conflicting GD claims we'll get tomorrow
I think that's fair, but I don't really care about Dead, I just think it's an oddd move to out yourself for a single mislynch on D2 of a 49p game
A lot of the role claims are unusual to see so early, but at least it gives us something to go off of
Don't forget Harpy! But Demons, yeah...inactive
Claiming looks relieving but it's hard to know what the right move is
In a game this size, a certain amount of transparency is needed, I think
I'm gonna leave this just incase, my role also involves "heretics" but the function diff to Landfill's, so I'm thinking it's a faction
Could be a cult that spreads?
But then Her Her isn't one, which makes me re-wonder about Illuminati
Yeah, is "Heretic" a faction?
I thought ti was Her_Her before too
Is heretic a faction, or a wc-user like thing for every role?
For every role?
asv for now
PraiseBe votes to lynch AutonomousSurfaceVehicle
Any thoughts on ALL of this info, Praise?
Don't be a Fanty
Like, if you just ASV and give nothing, you are high on my list for death tomorrow.
All these 'masons' are looking scarier now that you mention that
The heretic stuff
I don't know how common it is for ML to recruit N1, either
Conversely, we can get a lot of people confirmed by getting them recruited. This ties people together at least: if the ML/IL claim in question is fake, the alleged team members are fake. If a recruit attempt bounces or fails, we will know something about the target (pending other explanations for the event, such as a redirect).
I think the Illuminati could well be real, but not necessarily village aligned.
The problem is that it's ineffective/dangerous to dictate recruit targets for the Leaders, but it would be good to let all Leaders act according to their own best guesses, thereby generating quite some input
Yeah, if we get some recruits in, at least someone can report back on a target if someone dies.
I do not relish the idea of depending on deaths/GDs to prove people
I think it's key here to not depend on any single thing, it will all be an interconnected mess with lots of variables
and we try to paint a fitting picture from it all ^^
Vampire votes to lynch Dead
Walsh votes to lynch PraiseBe
Just putting ASV and no input people on notice
Walsh votes to lynch Demons
Actually, no, it made a tie for second place, so undone.
Man, if you're playing, play the game
Vampire, you want add some words?
you want to*
Did he think he was last minute voting?
Maybe, but Dead is way out in front, so makes no difference if Vampire was messing with things.
Well, hopefully with so many roles, the info will keep pouring in.
Both real and fake info, of course.
Hopefully we can distinguish the two.
sorry it was my first time logging in for the day and i was on mobile so i couldn't search for the summary
mobile was so laggy i literally couldn't even type out a message
just switched to my computer so one sec while i read up
search for '====='
The site wont even run on my phone so I feel ya
.I think we need a new summary for the tl;dr mod summary
Witch claimed harlot; Saw Hellhound and Lanfill visit Her_Her
Hellhound confirmed visit, Claimed WH, says Her_Her is WC user
Hmmm I read the summary and currently trying to make my way through the entire day but why all the votes on Dead? didn't see anything in the summary
Protectorphile's thing is still pretty much up to date?
Dead claimed ML who failed to recruit Demons.
Jezebel and Phantom countered as MLs
Her_Her claims Illuminati Leader, village aligned role; Properties of the Illuminati Leader are according to Her_Her: 1. mostly like a ML 2. ML and IL can't recruit each other 3. Immunity from witchkill (?) 4. a secret weapon
Electrolysis came out and claims to have a new role too: the "Drunk" - although he doesn't know his ability
Jezebel comes up, claims ML and offers to confirm Her_Her by recruiting them
Phantom comes online and tells us that he is a ML with jezebel, which jezebel /basically/ confirms
ML's can speak to each other at night, right?
Landfill claims new role that searches for "heretics"; discussion about what heretics might mean. WC users, evil, coven, or faction?
SoSlowww claims a powerful role that uses a color wheel to determine powers
NotCoven claims a role also having to do with heretics, but with different abilities than Landfill
Did SoSloww give any explanation on that? Sounds a little silly
Did anyone else claims that was missed, or is there any other pertinent info mod should have at day's end?
There was a lot of RP in Sloww's stuff
Maybe search him up
Walsh doesn't think Dead is the best lynch, and would prefer Demons
Two additions, from the top of my head: Dead claimed that they were the only ML (a subtle but meaningful aspect of the conflict), and also Rob-ASV claimed Drunk (and they left hints about being drunk before their role reveal)
Dead didn't necessarily claim only ML, they just claimed they weren't in a communal chat with other MLs
ASV also claimed Drunk?
We have 2 drunk claims?
@Walsh: thanks for the correction, I memorized/interpreted it differently
I missed that, holy hell
I thought only actual ASV (not one of the longer acronym ones) claimed Drunk
But there is always a communal chat with other ML's right? So wouldn't Dead need to be lying?
Unless both the other ML claims are false?
by Rob-ASV they mean Rob-avatar-ASV
And in a setup this big it makes sense for 2 ML's in my opinion
In protectorphile's summary, it was Electrolysis as drunk
fact check needed
I forgot about Electrolysis. They did claim Drunk
and for the record, heretics sounds like a new faction to me
@Vampire: if we follow only what we know from the game so far, but things may have been changed regarding the masonry stuff.
I thought someone was claiming two ASVs claimed Drunk
I can see the confusion
But if we believe Her_Her there could be variations of mason teams? Someone suggested multiple villages before this game began and mod said "fuck coding that" or so
mod.. telling lies!?
me.. being sarcastic!?
More like mod getting an idea
Well I'll need to go back to reading the entire day but if anything I think Dead might be a puppet for a ballsy claim like that
A seer check on Her_Her would be good still though
But that was only a few days ago
no way mod coded antire factions in that time, right?
But the way she asked for it felt lit
Could have had it prepped
200 has been anticipated for some time
jeez what does a drunkard gotta do to get remembered around here
the lag is so bad for me on mobile even copy pasting what i write from a different tab takes forever...
TMW the drunks find out they're evil halfway through the game
Intels should avoid them until they get a role, if that's how we're assuming it works
Wait what happens if MLs recruit drunks
Or are they strictly village roles inside
no clue, it might not even work til after we sober
Is a drunk village aligned in the first place?
I'm not sure it's worth taking the risk right now
(recruiting a Drunk)
IMO, Drunk should scan as clean until they know their role.
but that's my take on it
as far as i can tell we're vanillagers atm
Who came out as drunks?
Drunk to TR would be pretty awesome
me and electro did
multiple covens has been discussed many times before
not just recently
Mod sees the TL;DR from Landfill and Awiem and will use this unless others contest
(I think Walsh made a good correction on what I said about Dead, and 'their claim being the only ML' versus 'Dead simply said there was no other ML who presented themselves')
Who would you lynch?
I accidentally left out that Dead claimed to fail recruit Demons from my tl;dr
A chill wind blows, the warmth of day is at its end...
Plz Mason me
Dead was lynched by the village
Magic was hailed as the village’s salvation by the Elders. They used spells openly to help rebuild our village and heal the sick. In return, our grandparents paid taxes to help further the study of magic and build libraries of the occult. They thought it was in their best interest.
But they were wrong. It became clear the Elders had little intention of sharing knowledge with anyone except their most trusted Acolytes.
Matters eventually became even worse. Women previously ‘cured’ by the Elders’ magic gave birth to deformed children. Crops failed and many starved to death. The survivors turned to alcohol for solace.