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Attikus Tue 10:01

Two deaths, alright.
Tue 10:01

It's most likely a Huntsman and a wolf, but it could potentially be a regular kill and an excited Alphawolf.
Montana Tue 10:02

I think regular kill and vamp
Tue 10:02

Why do I get the creepy beardy guy
OscarMike Tue 10:03

you're also pretty dumb :)
Tue 10:03

In the game ofc :)
Montana Tue 10:03

I think huntsman at this stage would un/lucky
Tue 10:03

Oscar I can believe it
OscarMike Tue 10:05

I tend to agree with Montana, Vamp looks like the most probable chain of events
Attikus Tue 10:06

Oh, yeah, the vamp! All the other games I've played with a vamp, the vamp has been inactive and immediately lynched the next day. My bad.
OscarMike Tue 10:09

ok so you played 45.
Tue 10:12

Kelvin wanted a super early role reveal, and it seems he got killed for it. But when I read it yesterday I agreed with Ambra, too early.
Montana Tue 10:13

I thought Attikus might go because he's top of the list and spoke up yesterday
OscarMike Tue 10:13

both ppl. who died spoke yesterday.
Montana Tue 10:13

That's always the possibility SS could have shifted
Tue 10:14

But I think unlikely at this stage
OscarMike Tue 10:14

buuuut quite a few spoke yesterday
Tue 10:15

I found attikus "I reveal I'm villager" a bitt odd.
Tue 10:17

I hope some harlot picked up kelvin's activity and watched for it
Montana Tue 10:17

I noticed you talked the most yesterday, so either that's fishy, or there's no correlation between talking and killing
OscarMike Tue 10:18

I talked about the the theme, Kelvin talked tactics
Tue 10:20

and yes I'm quite happy there is another person in the world who knows this theme. So it was hard to hide my excitement about it.
Montana Tue 10:21

Not accusing you of anything don't worry
Tue 10:21

Not yet anyway
WhiskeyFoxtrot Tue 10:23

Hello everyone
OscarMike Tue 10:23

Hi Whiskey
Montana Tue 10:24

Whiskey the Foxtrot
Tue 10:25

I mean hi
WhiskeyFoxtrot Tue 10:25

hi
Tue 10:25

so 2 deaths
OscarMike Tue 10:25

so first round vamp lynch this round I guess
Montana Tue 10:26

It is fated
WhiskeyFoxtrot Tue 10:26

Yeah i thought so too
Tue 10:26

let 2 GDs did their job tonight
Tue 10:28

If harlot luckily visited one of the dead he can come out now
Tue 10:29

and only the harlot please (if he did visit the dead), to ease the huntsman and protector's job
Montana Tue 10:30

Don't know if it makes much difference but Kelvin said there are 2 HM and 1 Prot
Tue 10:30

There's only 1 of each
Tue 10:30

But 2 harlots is nice
WhiskeyFoxtrot Tue 10:33

yeah, but not too nice
Tue 10:33

in the game where the specials are all over the place, you don't know who's who
OscarMike Tue 10:35

this game could lead to so many false-positives
Tue 10:35

the amount of ppl. visiting each other is insane
Tue 10:35

plus lycans
Montana Tue 10:37

As Toby said, we're in for a doozy
OscarMike Tue 10:37

I think the dead won't lie, but the GD roles are the easiest ones to fake, so we have to be vigilant.
WhiskeyFoxtrot Tue 10:39

roles involving interacting with the dead are all easy to fake
Tue 10:39

since you don't have to face the harlot by saying out the visit and night
OscarMike Tue 10:39

Yes, but I mentioned the GD since the GR is a one time thing, while a fake GD could lead us to certain doom.
WhiskeyFoxtrot Tue 10:43

but we have 2 GDs, so if there's one who fakes claim and gives out a wrong list it'd be easier to be exposed, even if that one know one GD died
OscarMike Tue 10:45

true.
WhiskeyFoxtrot Tue 10:46

If all roles know what to do, who to check, i think we will not lose
Tue 10:46

all we need is cooperation
Tue 10:47

wolves last game cooperate really well, by trying to gain trust and distracting villagers from their allies
Tue 10:50

i'll say more later
Aurox Tue 11:21

is this an enforced lynch game?
Ambra Tue 11:31

OOh god I didn't realise we had a vamp too!!
Tue 11:37

Although, it could end up killing wolves!
Tue 11:38

I think if someone has a concrete lead today we should lynch but I feel against random lynching after 46
Tue 11:39

Looks like everyone was active that's great !
Tue 12:38

Seer(out) <- Hunstman1 (out) <- Huntsman2(secret)&Harlot(secret) next day switch it up with more reveals and protector added to the chain? Since leaving it another day might end up with a dead seer among the 4-5 deads, but a plan guarantees a few days life
Aurox Tue 12:57

don't we only have one hunter?
Ambra Tue 12:58

Agh! Ok, protector !
Tue 13:00

I think he turned off enforced lynching
Tue 13:00

Well, it was manual anyway? And it's StormPooper hosting so
Tue 13:02

With Reviver and GR I think day 2 reveal is ok
Tue 13:02

Otherwise waiting for possibly dead GDs to report back
Tue 13:03

&everything gets messier and messier
ISIC Tue 13:40

I'll come forward as one of the gravediggers. I'll check Galilea, other gravedigger check Kelvin.
Tue 13:40

Going forward, if there are multiple deaths per night, I'll always check the first one in the list of dead, other gravedigger, you check the 2nd.
Tue 13:41

protector, huntsman, feel free to protect me or not. Often it is better to keep the wolves guessing. Even if I die, there is another gravedigger, so that is fine.
OscarMike Tue 13:59

w8
Tue 14:02

I tought about whiskeys approach that GD's confirm each other?
Tue 14:02

I'm not sure if it's even possible to do right I think it's worth a thought.
Ambra Tue 14:08

Good point, if a wolf claims GD to get a vamp killed wolf revived it could be bad , should they check same or no?
Tue 14:09

Although checking both is good for reviver/GR to go into action asap if needed so...
OscarMike Tue 14:11

mhhh what happens if a GR and a Reviver target the same person?
Ambra Tue 14:17

We better ask mod
Tue 14:17

If it comes to be needed anyways
Aurox Tue 14:28

probably the graverobber gets there first
OscarMike Tue 14:32

So the reviver would revive an vanilla villager?
Aurox Tue 14:34

noooo
Tue 14:35

someone said in a different game that they don't steal the role they copy it
OscarMike Tue 14:36

is this the first round there is a GR/Reviver interaction?
Aurox Tue 14:36

so if seer died and got grave robbed and got revived then you would get two seers i think
OscarMike Tue 14:36

That sounds a bit overpowered
Aurox Tue 14:37

but if a wolf died and got robbed and revived you'd get two wolfs
Tue 14:37

so it is balanced maybe
Toby Tue 15:20

yo yo yo yo yoooooo
Marquis Tue 15:31

yo, Toby.
Toby Tue 15:35

yo!
Tue 15:35

alright alright alright ok so we have a role claim already
Tue 15:36

personally what im a lil eyes emoji at is the GD role claim in general cause it could be fake yknow?? like we have 2 GDs and then if ISIC was a fake claim no one would know bc both the real GDs would think they're the other one ya feel
Tue 15:37

read: therat in 46 highkey messed me lmao
OscarMike Tue 15:37

smart Toby.
Toby Tue 15:37

[elvis voice] thank you, thank u very much
ISIC Tue 15:48

So, keep an eye on me. It shouldn't take too long before I come across a dead body that is a one-of in the game and someone can try to dispute it. It'd be easier for me to fake it in a game without so many 1-of and 2-ofs. In this game though, it would be really hard to fake.
OscarMike Tue 15:58

I don't think Toby meant that you're super suspicious, it's that this doesn't mean anything until there is a second reveal. And even then it's not 100%.
Montana Tue 16:07

Can someone explain what Ambra was saying here?
Tue 16:07

Tue 12:38 Seer(out) <- Hunstman1 (out) <- Huntsman2(secret)&Harlot(secret) next day switch it up with more reveals and protector added to the chain?
OscarMike Tue 16:08

It means the Seer should come out together with the huntsman, while the secret huntsman protects the other huntsmen and so on..
Montana Tue 16:09

Ah I see
Tue 16:09

Though that gala down since there's only 1 huntsman
Rath Tue 16:09

actually, it might not be such a bad idea
Montana Tue 16:10

But I guess harlot can *sort of* do the same job, though it's not really protection
Rath Tue 16:10

with GR and reviver
Montana Tue 16:10

Gala = falls
OscarMike Tue 16:11

yeah the plan doesn't work like this, since he tought of 2 HM
Rath Tue 16:12

protector on the hm
Tue 16:12

next day switch if hm still alive
OscarMike Tue 16:13

sounds 43 to me^^
Montana Tue 16:14

Just let's not lynch the seer
Rath Tue 16:14

we can't really lynch anyone yet
OscarMike Tue 16:14

which btw. was flawed and only worked because some stupid elf and a all seeing eye bothered to dig up gollum
Tue 16:15

the village basically fell for 2 fake role claims
Montana Tue 16:15

And why would you dig up that crazy bag of cats?
OscarMike Tue 16:15

almost 3
Montana Tue 16:15

Yep
Tue 16:15

But in any case
Tue 16:15

You could still get a protection circle
OscarMike Tue 16:16

so yes I agree 43 was a good game, but I don't think the strategy was in any way flawless, or can be applied to any other round.
Montana Tue 16:16

Each game unto itself
OscarMike Tue 16:17

we have so few ppl. without a role in this game, the chances for some roles already gone is pretty high.
Montana Tue 16:17

I bet if we asked there would be like 6 claims for vanillager
OscarMike Tue 16:17

See Attikus.
Tue 16:18

Already called dibs on being lycan. ;-)
Deande Tue 16:19

hi guys
Tue 16:19

so what's the plan?
Tue 16:19

no lynch today?
OscarMike Tue 16:19

I think we can't affrod a no lynch. But I want to give everyone some time to speak up.
Montana Tue 16:20

Unless a harlot wants to speak up I don't think we've much to go on
Rath Tue 16:20

would be pretty careless to lynch someone without any info and so many roles around
Deande Tue 16:20

but the lynch would be highly random then
Tue 16:20

the chances of killing off an important role at an early stage are pretty big
Tue 16:21

(although i hate games where people just rely on seer intel)
Rath Tue 16:21

the lynchee would be pressured to reveal their role
Deande Tue 16:21

true, gets stuff going
OscarMike Tue 16:22

My feeling tells me we already lost a role with Kelvin.
Deande Tue 16:22

what feeling is that?
OscarMike Tue 16:22

Not sure about Galilea, but he seemed pretty motivated and wanted to get going, maybe reveal himself?
Montana Tue 16:22

And not with Galilea?
Tue 16:23

Nvm
Rath Tue 16:23

today is the best day for a reveal tho
OscarMike Tue 16:24

Look, this guy sees his role and instantly wants to go at revealing. That's either wolfish (he's dead now so only vamp in question) or he had something to say.
Deande Tue 16:24

i have not yet spotted a connection between speaking up on day 1 and being/not being a ww
OscarMike Tue 16:24

It's not about speaking up, he wanted to reveal his role
Montana Tue 16:24

Has there been a time someone had revealed to not be a role?
OscarMike Tue 16:25

Attikus did.
Attikus Tue 16:26

Hello, yes, I did.
Montana Tue 16:26

Nah he claimed villager
Tue 16:26

I'm claiming I'm not seer
OscarMike Tue 16:26

I understood it that he claimed vanilla
Attikus Tue 16:27

For those who had found that "reveal" comment suspicious— it was a joke, because someone before me had mentioned how funny or wild or something it would be for a day one reveal. So I made a joke about revealing my role, when I'm just a plain villager (or lycan.)
Tue 16:27

Yes, I did claim vanilla.
Ghalt Tue 16:33

Hey guys, I agree that a lynch at this time would be pretty risky (there are so many special roles and the odds of hitting one). And quick question Montana, what is "gala"?
Montana Tue 16:35

I corrected my typo = falls
Ghalt Tue 16:36

Oh okay then
WhiskeyFoxtrot Tue 17:04

So guys, i think we should made some suggestions for roles tonight
Ghalt Tue 17:10

What did you have in mind? I feel since the GD has been revealed we definitely should have someone protect them
WhiskeyFoxtrot Tue 17:11

Do you guys believe ISIC or not? Any suggestions to confirm him?
Tue 17:12

IMO i believe him, i think protector should protect him.
Tue 17:14

One way i think that is the best way to believe ISIC is to let 2 GDs check the same person (and to not waste a seer check)
Tue 17:14

ISIC come out so he speaks first
ISIC Tue 17:14

I mean, we won't usually have 2 deaths, right? It's not clear to me if vampire can attack every night.
OscarMike Tue 17:15

he can
Tue 17:15

we lose 2 ppl. every night if there isn't a lucky safe
WhiskeyFoxtrot Tue 17:16

I think Vampire is our first piority
ISIC Tue 17:17

•If the Vampire attacks, they cannot be killed by the Werewolves that night. (but the Vampire may kill a wolf).
Tue 17:18

Does that mean vampire can be eaten by wolves if he doesn't attack?
WhiskeyFoxtrot Tue 17:19

I guess so
ISIC Tue 17:20

I see why you want vampire as our first priority, because he makes it so that 2 die every night, but he also might kill wolves at night.
OscarMike Tue 17:21

if the seer found the vamp, he should reveal himself. With a Vamp you need to kill him first and slow the game down.
WhiskeyFoxtrot Tue 17:21

i don't think the vamp would kill someone who looks like wolf, at least this early
Tue 17:21

the villagers have number advantage
OscarMike Tue 17:23

I still have hopes a harlot had eyes on Kelvin
Tue 17:23

I mean he was kinda obvious?
ISIC Tue 17:24

True, but so far, nobody really looks like wolf.
Tue 17:24

Especially, on the first night.
OscarMike Tue 17:25

I think Kelvin was one of the most obvious Harlot targets
Ghalt Tue 17:25

I believe so. And while there is a chance they might kill a wolf, there's a greater chance of them killing off a villager/special role
Tue 17:25

And two deaths per night really add up
WhiskeyFoxtrot Tue 17:34

we have at most 5 days if none of the wolves and the vampire are lynched, faster if we lynch the wrong guy
OscarMike Tue 17:36

Did you consider the alpha wolf?
WhiskeyFoxtrot Tue 17:36

i say at most tho
Tue 17:37

yeah alpha makes it faster
Caldarius Tue 17:38

Hey guys. This is probably the only time I'll be able to check in. I think the vamp did kill someone. Doubt alpha would use ability this early. I think it's risky to lynch this early in the game with so many roles. However, if we get lucky and lynch vamp only one person will die tonight but I still think it's too risky
OscarMike Tue 17:41

What you mean by your second sentence?
Caldarius Tue 17:41

I have to work
Tue 17:42

In a few minutes
OscarMike Tue 17:42

ah ok
Caldarius Tue 17:42

We do have three silents so far today but it's up to you guys I have to go
OscarMike Tue 17:43

so you have no information to help us so far?
Caldarius Tue 17:44

Unfortunately I do not
OscarMike Tue 17:44

Thanks.
WhiskeyFoxtrot Tue 17:46

If it keeps going like this i guess nobody will be lynched tonight, we wait for more info
Kleese Tue 17:47

Yes.
WhiskeyFoxtrot Tue 17:48

we have like tons of power, no need to rush here right
Tue 17:48

Gd will announce dead role for GR and Reviver tmr
OscarMike Tue 17:48

I disagree, we play to not lose, we should play to win.
Tue 17:49

we have in the worst casse 4-5 days
Kleese Tue 19:07

Okay. How do we play to win OscarMike?\
Ambra Tue 21:57

Hope to see you all again
Ghalt Tue 21:57

Night!
Aurox Tue 21:58

n8
OscarMike Tue 21:58

Gn8
Kleese Tue 21:58

Ghalt don't waste checks on me. Check other suspicious people.
OscarMike Tue 21:58

we get trolled so hard...
Attikus Tue 21:59

Night!
Kleese Tue 21:59

Deande is a good check. But do w.e bro.
Tue 21:59

Just not me okay friend?
Killed Wed 10:00

Montana was killed during the night

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