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Two deaths, alright.
It's most likely a Huntsman and a wolf, but it could potentially be a regular kill and an excited Alphawolf.
I think regular kill and vamp
Why do I get the creepy beardy guy
you're also pretty dumb :)
In the game ofc :)
I think huntsman at this stage would un/lucky
Oscar I can believe it
I tend to agree with Montana, Vamp looks like the most probable chain of events
Oh, yeah, the vamp! All the other games I've played with a vamp, the vamp has been inactive and immediately lynched the next day. My bad.
ok so you played 45.
Kelvin wanted a super early role reveal, and it seems he got killed for it. But when I read it yesterday I agreed with Ambra, too early.
I thought Attikus might go because he's top of the list and spoke up yesterday
both ppl. who died spoke yesterday.
That's always the possibility SS could have shifted
But I think unlikely at this stage
buuuut quite a few spoke yesterday
I found attikus "I reveal I'm villager" a bitt odd.
I hope some harlot picked up kelvin's activity and watched for it
I noticed you talked the most yesterday, so either that's fishy, or there's no correlation between talking and killing
I talked about the the theme, Kelvin talked tactics
and yes I'm quite happy there is another person in the world who knows this theme. So it was hard to hide my excitement about it.
Not accusing you of anything don't worry
Not yet anyway
Whiskey the Foxtrot
I mean hi
so 2 deaths
so first round vamp lynch this round I guess
It is fated
Yeah i thought so too
let 2 GDs did their job tonight
If harlot luckily visited one of the dead he can come out now
and only the harlot please (if he did visit the dead), to ease the huntsman and protector's job
Don't know if it makes much difference but Kelvin said there are 2 HM and 1 Prot
There's only 1 of each
But 2 harlots is nice
yeah, but not too nice
in the game where the specials are all over the place, you don't know who's who
this game could lead to so many false-positives
the amount of ppl. visiting each other is insane
As Toby said, we're in for a doozy
I think the dead won't lie, but the GD roles are the easiest ones to fake, so we have to be vigilant.
roles involving interacting with the dead are all easy to fake
since you don't have to face the harlot by saying out the visit and night
Yes, but I mentioned the GD since the GR is a one time thing, while a fake GD could lead us to certain doom.
but we have 2 GDs, so if there's one who fakes claim and gives out a wrong list it'd be easier to be exposed, even if that one know one GD died
If all roles know what to do, who to check, i think we will not lose
all we need is cooperation
wolves last game cooperate really well, by trying to gain trust and distracting villagers from their allies
i'll say more later
is this an enforced lynch game?
OOh god I didn't realise we had a vamp too!!
Although, it could end up killing wolves!
I think if someone has a concrete lead today we should lynch but I feel against random lynching after 46
Looks like everyone was active that's great !
Seer(out) <- Hunstman1 (out) <- Huntsman2(secret)&Harlot(secret) next day switch it up with more reveals and protector added to the chain? Since leaving it another day might end up with a dead seer among the 4-5 deads, but a plan guarantees a few days life
don't we only have one hunter?
Agh! Ok, protector !
I think he turned off enforced lynching
Well, it was manual anyway? And it's StormPooper hosting so
With Reviver and GR I think day 2 reveal is ok
Otherwise waiting for possibly dead GDs to report back
&everything gets messier and messier
I'll come forward as one of the gravediggers. I'll check Galilea, other gravedigger check Kelvin.
Going forward, if there are multiple deaths per night, I'll always check the first one in the list of dead, other gravedigger, you check the 2nd.
protector, huntsman, feel free to protect me or not. Often it is better to keep the wolves guessing. Even if I die, there is another gravedigger, so that is fine.
I tought about whiskeys approach that GD's confirm each other?
I'm not sure if it's even possible to do right I think it's worth a thought.
Good point, if a wolf claims GD to get a vamp killed wolf revived it could be bad , should they check same or no?
Although checking both is good for reviver/GR to go into action asap if needed so...
mhhh what happens if a GR and a Reviver target the same person?
We better ask mod
If it comes to be needed anyways
probably the graverobber gets there first
So the reviver would revive an vanilla villager?
someone said in a different game that they don't steal the role they copy it
is this the first round there is a GR/Reviver interaction?
so if seer died and got grave robbed and got revived then you would get two seers i think
That sounds a bit overpowered
but if a wolf died and got robbed and revived you'd get two wolfs
so it is balanced maybe
yo yo yo yo yoooooo
alright alright alright ok so we have a role claim already
personally what im a lil eyes emoji at is the GD role claim in general cause it could be fake yknow?? like we have 2 GDs and then if ISIC was a fake claim no one would know bc both the real GDs would think they're the other one ya feel
read: therat in 46 highkey messed me lmao
[elvis voice] thank you, thank u very much
So, keep an eye on me. It shouldn't take too long before I come across a dead body that is a one-of in the game and someone can try to dispute it. It'd be easier for me to fake it in a game without so many 1-of and 2-ofs. In this game though, it would be really hard to fake.
I don't think Toby meant that you're super suspicious, it's that this doesn't mean anything until there is a second reveal. And even then it's not 100%.
Can someone explain what Ambra was saying here?
Tue 12:38 Seer(out) <- Hunstman1 (out) <- Huntsman2(secret)&Harlot(secret) next day switch it up with more reveals and protector added to the chain?
It means the Seer should come out together with the huntsman, while the secret huntsman protects the other huntsmen and so on..
Ah I see
Though that gala down since there's only 1 huntsman
actually, it might not be such a bad idea
But I guess harlot can *sort of* do the same job, though it's not really protection
with GR and reviver
Gala = falls
yeah the plan doesn't work like this, since he tought of 2 HM
protector on the hm
next day switch if hm still alive
sounds 43 to me^^
Just let's not lynch the seer
we can't really lynch anyone yet
which btw. was flawed and only worked because some stupid elf and a all seeing eye bothered to dig up gollum
the village basically fell for 2 fake role claims
And why would you dig up that crazy bag of cats?
But in any case
You could still get a protection circle
so yes I agree 43 was a good game, but I don't think the strategy was in any way flawless, or can be applied to any other round.
Each game unto itself
we have so few ppl. without a role in this game, the chances for some roles already gone is pretty high.
I bet if we asked there would be like 6 claims for vanillager
Already called dibs on being lycan. ;-)
so what's the plan?
no lynch today?
I think we can't affrod a no lynch. But I want to give everyone some time to speak up.
Unless a harlot wants to speak up I don't think we've much to go on
would be pretty careless to lynch someone without any info and so many roles around
but the lynch would be highly random then
the chances of killing off an important role at an early stage are pretty big
(although i hate games where people just rely on seer intel)
the lynchee would be pressured to reveal their role
true, gets stuff going
My feeling tells me we already lost a role with Kelvin.
what feeling is that?
Not sure about Galilea, but he seemed pretty motivated and wanted to get going, maybe reveal himself?
And not with Galilea?
today is the best day for a reveal tho
Look, this guy sees his role and instantly wants to go at revealing. That's either wolfish (he's dead now so only vamp in question) or he had something to say.
i have not yet spotted a connection between speaking up on day 1 and being/not being a ww
It's not about speaking up, he wanted to reveal his role
Has there been a time someone had revealed to not be a role?
Hello, yes, I did.
Nah he claimed villager
I'm claiming I'm not seer
I understood it that he claimed vanilla
For those who had found that "reveal" comment suspicious— it was a joke, because someone before me had mentioned how funny or wild or something it would be for a day one reveal. So I made a joke about revealing my role, when I'm just a plain villager (or lycan.)
Yes, I did claim vanilla.
Hey guys, I agree that a lynch at this time would be pretty risky (there are so many special roles and the odds of hitting one). And quick question Montana, what is "gala"?
I corrected my typo = falls
Oh okay then
So guys, i think we should made some suggestions for roles tonight
What did you have in mind? I feel since the GD has been revealed we definitely should have someone protect them
Do you guys believe ISIC or not? Any suggestions to confirm him?
IMO i believe him, i think protector should protect him.
One way i think that is the best way to believe ISIC is to let 2 GDs check the same person (and to not waste a seer check)
ISIC come out so he speaks first
I mean, we won't usually have 2 deaths, right? It's not clear to me if vampire can attack every night.
we lose 2 ppl. every night if there isn't a lucky safe
I think Vampire is our first piority
•If the Vampire attacks, they cannot be killed by the Werewolves that night. (but the Vampire may kill a wolf).
Does that mean vampire can be eaten by wolves if he doesn't attack?
I guess so
I see why you want vampire as our first priority, because he makes it so that 2 die every night, but he also might kill wolves at night.
if the seer found the vamp, he should reveal himself. With a Vamp you need to kill him first and slow the game down.
i don't think the vamp would kill someone who looks like wolf, at least this early
the villagers have number advantage
I still have hopes a harlot had eyes on Kelvin
I mean he was kinda obvious?
True, but so far, nobody really looks like wolf.
Especially, on the first night.
I think Kelvin was one of the most obvious Harlot targets
I believe so. And while there is a chance they might kill a wolf, there's a greater chance of them killing off a villager/special role
And two deaths per night really add up
we have at most 5 days if none of the wolves and the vampire are lynched, faster if we lynch the wrong guy
Did you consider the alpha wolf?
i say at most tho
yeah alpha makes it faster
Hey guys. This is probably the only time I'll be able to check in. I think the vamp did kill someone. Doubt alpha would use ability this early. I think it's risky to lynch this early in the game with so many roles. However, if we get lucky and lynch vamp only one person will die tonight but I still think it's too risky
What you mean by your second sentence?
I have to work
In a few minutes
We do have three silents so far today but it's up to you guys I have to go
so you have no information to help us so far?
Unfortunately I do not
If it keeps going like this i guess nobody will be lynched tonight, we wait for more info
we have like tons of power, no need to rush here right
Gd will announce dead role for GR and Reviver tmr
I disagree, we play to not lose, we should play to win.
we have in the worst casse 4-5 days
Okay. How do we play to win OscarMike?\
Hope to see you all again
Ghalt don't waste checks on me. Check other suspicious people.